1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Welcome in What Driving the Great Episode four oh seven. 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: This episode has always is brought to you by our 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: friends at Boost Mobile. Great to see everyone today, Merry Christmas, 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: Happy Hanukah, Happy holidays to everybody again. We are live 5 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: right now Tuesday, December twenty third, and then we are 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: bringing you later this week our gambling show, so it 7 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: will be a two show week this week and next 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: is Christmas Day and New Year's Day, both fall on 9 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: our regular Thursday recordings. Demons, how are you good doing it? Yeah? 10 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 2: Good to see you. Good to see you. 11 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: So I have a very funny story that I will 12 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: tell later in today's show that I have just shared 13 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: with some of our great producers at Volume and Blue 14 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: Duck about a real life scenario where I, forty something 15 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: year old, long time professional grandfather, national television and podcast host, 16 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: had to borrow money this weekend to gamble with from demons. 17 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: That happened, and so and it was as just the 18 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: way it should have gone. It was so close to 19 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: being so great, and yet instead it was really was 20 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: really really was right. 21 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: You know what? 22 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: How many stories have started like that? I was, I 23 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: was right there, But such is life. So that story 24 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: coming later in today's show. Right now, we will get 25 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: to straight to voicemail, brought to you by our friends 26 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: at boost Mobile. Draymond Green ejected himself after an argument 27 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: with Steve Kerr. The the juice is still worth the 28 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: squeeze with Draymond, but man, oh man, there's a lot 29 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: less juice and the squeezings getting a lot tougher, and 30 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: that you can kind of see how that could end. 31 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: Anthony Joshua knocks out Jake Paul and I'll be totally 32 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: honest here. That was we talked about that more? Did 33 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: we talk about that at all? 34 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: We did on Thursday? We did? 35 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, about the gambling opportunities from that, and that 36 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: one came through. Now the knockout rounds one through three 37 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,119 Speaker 1: did not at minus one thirty, but the knockout overall 38 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: at minus three seventy did. And two thoughts on that quickly. 39 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: One is I I was nervous watching that because I 40 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: bet Joshua for knockout or TKO like, but I would 41 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: not so I would not have won the bet if 42 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: it went to the cards, which I did not think 43 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: it was going to. First few rounds obviously Jake's running around. 44 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: I didn't love that, but I felt like but I 45 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: also would not have won the bet if Jake got 46 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: deq and I was worried with him, like consistently like 47 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: wrestling and falling, that they might deque him. But Joshua 48 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: called him with a clean right broke his jaw in 49 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 1: multiple places. And now I have to listen to people 50 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: telling me, you know how tough Jake Paul is. Listen. 51 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't doubt that he's tough. Doesn't change 52 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: the fact that he is a clown and the tongue 53 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: wagging and the whole he put himself in that position 54 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: to get his jaw broken, got his jaw broken, and 55 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: people were like, Wow, you can't question that guy. I 56 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: question that guy plenty. I'm glad for Anthony Joshua and 57 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: then DK metcalf so he's been suspended for two games. 58 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: That's gonna cost him more than half a million dollars 59 00:03:55,880 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: in salary. It might cost the Steelers. Now, the Steelers 60 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: if they win against the Bronco I'm sorry again with 61 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: the Broncos against the Browns. They the Steelers have three 62 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: ways to make the playoffs. Way number one, they beat 63 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: the Browns, they're in way number two. The Ravens lose 64 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: to the Packers, then the Steelers are in way. Number 65 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: three is Steelers beat the Ravens in Week eighteen. But 66 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: DK Metcalf obviously won't be playing in those games, so 67 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: that hurts them a bit. I still think they'll be 68 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: able to beat the Browns. I don't think it'll be 69 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: a problem. So I just want to spend a moment 70 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: here talking about what DK Metcalf did so and reminder 71 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: everybody like great subscriber review would be a great Christmas 72 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: present to us if we as we inch closer to 73 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: a quarter of a million subscribers, we're right short of 74 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty thousand. We're not going to get 75 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: to a quarter of a million by New Year's as 76 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: was our goal. If we could maybe approach it by 77 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl would be great. We'd have to really 78 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: pick up the numbers on YouTube, but they much love 79 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: to everyone who subscribes already. If you're just watching or 80 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 1: listening on iTunes or Spotify and not subscribed on an 81 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: audio platform and or on YouTube, would be greatly appreciated. So, 82 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: you know, demanse my general feeling on a few of 83 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: these topics. What is this? There is almost no one 84 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: more embarrassing to be around or be associated with than 85 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: the full grown, post college age adult that goes to 86 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: games to nastily taunt pro athletes. I don't like that 87 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: guy in any way, shape or form. I think that 88 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 1: is embarrassing behavior. I think it is shocking. Listen. I 89 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: think booing is fine. I think making noise, I think 90 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: the ACA visional well timed, wise crack. If it's actually 91 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: funny and witty, I think there is a room for 92 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: that in sports. But the thirty something year old, and 93 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that that's what this guy was, but 94 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: just in generically, the thirty something year old or old 95 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: or drunk idiot that is just being obnoxious and making 96 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: it uncomfortable for those around him. I don't like that person. 97 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: I also have a controversial belief, which is society as 98 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: a whole is better if people have a somewhat healthy 99 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: fear eh, Mike get punched in the face. I think that, 100 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: like there is the furthest logical conclusion of this is 101 00:06:54,560 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: I find no one more abhorrent or a certain a 102 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: porrent might be the wrong word obnoxious, then the streamer 103 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: idiot kids that walk around malls and stuff, Yeah, pulling pranks, 104 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: messing with people with their own security because they know 105 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: I can't get punched in the face. And I do 106 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: think that there is a healthy self policing that can 107 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: be done of if folks know, hey, yeah, maybe I'll 108 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,239 Speaker 1: be able to press charges. Maybe I you know, maybe 109 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: it's gonna ruin the other person's next few months. But 110 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: if I act in a certain manner, I might get 111 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: punched in the face, nut shot, not stabbed, not kicked 112 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: in the head while I'm on the ground, but a 113 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: quick little jab. If everybody knows that that's on the board, 114 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: I think people will conduct themselves with more grace and courtesy. 115 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: And we've lost that a little bit, just a little bit. 116 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: We've become a little too I would say, liberal with 117 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: words that are being allowed, while a little too conservative 118 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: with punches that are allowed. Just my personal that's not 119 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: and I don't mean that in a political sense. I 120 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: mean they the I think that old sticks and stones 121 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: will break my bones, but words will never harm me. 122 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: Nursery rhyme did a little damage to a generation guy, 123 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: and so uh and so I do think they're say 124 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: it again, you know, yeah, run away correct. I do 125 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: think there was a At times certain things you deserve 126 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: to get punched like I. 127 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 2: And have the facts come out about what was said. 128 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 3: Like DK was saying that he might have called him 129 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 3: something that you never call a black man. He was 130 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 3: saying that he just called DK by his original name 131 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 3: and is and like his original name. 132 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 2: So I think that that I. 133 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: Have seen with audio sound like the guy with the 134 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: blue wig is telling the truth. Yeah, that he didn't 135 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: say anything about his wife, his mother. He didn't say 136 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: a slur. 137 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 3: I think that's also a problem on dkse on DK 138 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 3: side because I understand like the fans shouldn't be there heckling, 139 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 3: but you also shouldn't put that on the fan that 140 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 3: he said that just because you want to go. 141 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a whole nother thing, which is the if 142 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 1: you tell me, and I don't you know, the if 143 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: you tell me no matter what race, creed, ethnicity, religion, 144 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: you are, somebody weaponizes that against you in the form 145 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: of a slur. That definitely checks the box for me 146 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: of you're allowed to punch that person. You're not. Again, 147 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: like I said, you can't shoot them, can't stab them, 148 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: can't if they're unconscious, kick him in the head. But 149 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: one quick punch to the face. They deserve it, and 150 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: I don't think a jury of your peers is going 151 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: to hold you accountable, just like you know what, I'm 152 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: gonna tell my story. So I now the flip side 153 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: to that coin is claiming that happened when it didn't 154 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 1: happen is an extra type of dirty and that that 155 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: is from the same branch of something you've heard me 156 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 1: say before, which is folks inability to take an l 157 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: these days, or folks inability to be like I screwed 158 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: up like that. So again I am I want to 159 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: be very careful here because I also have not heard 160 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: DK say that's what the guy said. I think it 161 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: was o Cho Sinko reported that DK told him, So 162 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: I don't again, I have I don't know. I definitely 163 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: don't know what was said definitively. I just know what 164 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: the audio shows and the video shows seems to back 165 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: up Blue Wig guy. 166 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 2: Guy wouldn't have walked up, I feel, And I. 167 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: Also feel like I also feel like there is again 168 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: you can sometimes tell what was said by the reaction 169 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: of folks around and the it and so I. 170 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 2: Feel like, oh my gosh, like, yeah. 171 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: It didn't seem like that. Again, I'm so I the 172 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: I would not. I don't have enough evidence yet to 173 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: make my own full mental ruling, but I know which 174 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: way I'm leaning. Okay, So now that I've laid all 175 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: this out there, I want to I want to make 176 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: this point, which is, of course DK Metcalf got suspended 177 00:11:53,480 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: two games the NFL. There are very few black in 178 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: white lines that the NFL in particular has to maintain, 179 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: and one of them is you can't hit the customers. 180 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: And I feel more strongly about that, honestly, in the 181 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: NFL than the NBA, even though the NBA they're on 182 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: top of the court. Because this is I think you 183 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: have to get in such a different mind frame to 184 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: play pro football. It's while you're on the field. I 185 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: think you have to like Cyche that that it needs 186 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: to be really really instilled that you can't take that 187 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: into the stands because I think it can. 188 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 2: Go massive dude. 189 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: It's a massive dude who's in like a in that moment, 190 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: like for your mentality, like you know, the We've seen 191 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: plenty of these guys who in their day to day 192 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: life are just like soft spoken, quiet, you know, peaceful people, 193 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: but they have to get into it. So I just 194 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: think the size plus the mindset, all of that, it 195 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: becomes really like legitimately dangerous, not fake dangerous, legitimately dangerous. 196 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: And so I I as soon as it happened, I 197 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 1: texted Bruin Wilde. I was like, he's going to be 198 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: suspended a minimum of the game, maybe multiple now maybe, 199 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: And I know it voids as guarantees. I actually don't 200 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: think that matters that much because he's still a really 201 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: good player. You only don't want your guarantee, like the 202 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: Steelers want to keep paying him. So that's not going 203 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: to probably be a problem now next year, if he's 204 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: terrible or if he suffers a terrible injury, then those 205 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: voided guarantees could matter. But that's my general take on 206 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 1: the DK Metcalf situation. Now we have and even more 207 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: nuanced conversation to be had about my hometown Kansas City 208 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: Chiefs and where they're going geographically, and some of this 209 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: is going to be boring some of them, and you 210 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: know what I shouldn't say is going to be boring. 211 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: Some of this is going to be just real geography, 212 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: and some of it's going to be real politics. And 213 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: some of this is going to be municipal spending. But 214 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: I'll make it all good, So go ahead. 215 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 2: The season for hell becomes more hilatious. 216 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 3: You guys lost Patrick, You guys lost your backup quarterback 217 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 3: in Garda. 218 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 2: Minshew, and you lost the Titans. 219 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 3: And it seems like Kansas City Chiefs are no longer 220 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 3: going to be in Kansas City. They might be moving 221 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 3: over to Kansas in twenty thirty. How do you feel 222 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 3: about this development? 223 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: All right, first, let me explain to people what it means. 224 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: Kansas City Kansas City for all intents and purposes. When 225 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: people hear about Kansas City, they're talking about the Missouri side. 226 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: It is where I'm from, so weird kind of border 227 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: rivalry Missouri or Kansas. But I grew up one block 228 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: off State Line Road. That is exactly what it sounds 229 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: like the line between Missouri and Kansas. Now, confusingly and oddly, 230 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: the Missouri side of State Line Road is Kansas City. 231 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: The Kansas side of State Line Road is not Kansas City, Kansas. 232 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: That's a different part. Like there is a small part 233 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: of Kansasity, Kansas that touches State Line Road, but most 234 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: of it that touches State Line Road is like uh 235 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: Leewood or Oleitha or different municipalities. Okay, you guys don't 236 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: care about that. What you do what does matter is this, 237 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: The Chiefs are moving about twenty minutes west of where 238 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: they currently play. So this has no impact on them 239 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: being the Kansas City Chiefs because they were in Kansas 240 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: City proper. Yes, but they are still in the greater 241 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: Kansas City area, just like the same San Francisco forty 242 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: nine Ers play in Santa Clara. The New England Patriots, 243 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: which people consider Boston's team, play in Foxborough. Like this 244 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: is the Detroit Pistons used to play at the Palace 245 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: at Auburn Hills. This happens. This is not a team 246 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: moving the way teams move, like Baltimore going to Cleveland, 247 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: that type of the Cleveland going to Baltimore. Either, That's 248 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: not what this is at all. Now it does for 249 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: me as a native Missouri and someone who's lived lived 250 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: his whole life my dad, it's Kansasy, Missouri firefighter. I 251 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: lived in on the Missouri side and whenever people say 252 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: to me, oh, you're from Kansas, I correct them say no, 253 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: I'm from Missouri. I hate that the Chiefs are leaving 254 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: I don't hate that Missouri was not held hostage by 255 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: pro sports owners. And this is where we get into 256 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: a little bit of tricky stuff. And then we will 257 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: talk about the football piece of it, because there is 258 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: a real football piece of it. But this is so teams, 259 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: because the state of Kansas, via star bonds and other stuff, 260 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: is going to pay more money for this chief stadium 261 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 1: than any local government, which means taxpayers have paid for 262 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: any stadium in the history of America one point eight 263 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: billion dollars. And I have always believed that the call 264 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: it fifteen biggest cities in the country, all of the 265 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 1: mayors slash governors of those states should have gotten together 266 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 1: a long time ago and said, folks, we need to 267 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 1: have an agreement amongst ourselves. We are not going to 268 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: pay for pro those sports team stadiums because they want 269 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: to be in our cities. So New York, LA, Dallas, Houston, Chicago, 270 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: San Francisco, that your major markets pro sports teams want 271 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: to be there. The idea that they are going to 272 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: leave is a bluff. If you are a major, major market, 273 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: so you should never pay. Never pay if you're in 274 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: one of those markets. If you're in a smaller market. 275 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: It does get trickier because we have seen teams leave 276 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: smaller markets. And one can argue, and I have argued 277 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: for a long time to use my hometown as a example, 278 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 1: that the thing that distinct that makes Kansas City different 279 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: from Des Moines, Iowa, or Omaha, Nebraska is that we 280 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 1: have the chiefs and the royals. That's it. We're a 281 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: two sport pro sport city and there is real economic 282 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: and civic pride benefit to that. And Kansas City is 283 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 1: not a huge market, so you can't just dare a 284 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: team to leave the way LA could or New York 285 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 1: could or Washington, d C. Could because they might leave. 286 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 1: The Kansas City has lost teams before, and so I 287 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: don't think it. While I understand the argument of there 288 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: are better things to be putting paying taxpayer dollars for 289 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 1: that is correct, I agree with that in general. I 290 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 1: also understand why if you're Memphis, losing the Grizzlies as 291 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 1: scary as shit, and it might be worth taxpayer dollars 292 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: to make sure they stay. And so I think the 293 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: math is not the same for mid market and small 294 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: market teams as it is for major market teams. That's 295 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: just my opinion. I think I have data to back 296 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: that up, but it's my gut feeling on having grown 297 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: up in one of those places and feeling like I'm 298 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 1: from somewhere, and because we have pro sports teams and 299 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: so this doesn't change that for Kansas Citians, they will 300 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 1: still be the Kansas City Chiefs. Nobody half the country 301 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:41,719 Speaker 1: thought they played in Kansas already anyway, And I don't 302 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: think I understand the gut reaction people have, and I'm 303 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: with you politically on this, that it is shameful the 304 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 1: public subsidies we will give billion dollar sports teams when 305 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 1: I mean the city the state of Kansas has no 306 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: public transportation none. Don't get mad at me, Governor Laura Kelly, Like, 307 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a few bus routes, but like there 308 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: are there's there are things that money could be used 309 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: for that probably would help a greater group of people. 310 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: I get that, But I also do think that if 311 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: you're in a city the size of one that a 312 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: team might leave, losing that team can be devastating to 313 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: the community. So I do think you have to weigh 314 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 1: that the the problem for the cheap for that the 315 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: Chiefs were able to play into specifically is because they're 316 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:51,959 Speaker 1: on a state line, they could play one state against 317 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: the other and get basically demanse the benefit that you 318 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: normally only get this type of I mean one point 319 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 1: eight billion, it's the biggest public subsidy ever. You normally 320 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: only get that something like that if you are threatening 321 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: your fan base with we are moving, like we are 322 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: going to the Seattle SuperSonics are going to become the 323 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: Oklahoma City Thunder. Because Kansas City that is on a 324 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: state line, they were able to get the benefit without 325 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: ever having to threaten. They were never threatening to move 326 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: to San Antonio. It's just like we'll just. 327 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 2: Ext whoever is going to the games previously. 328 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: Right, you still get to play the states against each other. 329 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 1: And this has been a problem for border cities. This 330 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: is a bigger problem when it comes to business taxes 331 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 1: and municipal funding. And again, this is the part that 332 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: could be boring, but I'm gonna give a very simplistic 333 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: story of what's happened in my hometown. Because it's on 334 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: a state line, you'll have a business, not a sports team, 335 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: a business that is based in Kansas, and then politicians 336 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: in Missouri because they want to say we added jobs 337 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: to our community will give that business insane tax breaks 338 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: to move its headquarters fifteen minutes east over to Missouri, 339 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: and that business can then not pay the taxes it 340 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 1: was once paying. It has no impact whatsoever actually on 341 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 1: who has the jobs. You're not adding jobs to your community, 342 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: You're just stealing them off the books of Kansas to 343 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: Adam and Missouri, or Missouri to Adam and Kansas, vice versa. 344 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: But it's the same human beings working there, and that has, 345 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 1: you know, been That's a problem for mayors and city 346 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: councils of border cities all the time, like how do 347 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: we because it ends up being not a zero sum 348 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: game again, a zero sum for the overall community, but 349 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 1: a huge win for the a zero sum for the 350 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: employment of the overall community, while being a huge win 351 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: for the bottom line of corporations. But that's a sidebar. 352 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 1: Now to the football piece of it, because here is 353 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: the tangible effect. The Chiefs are going to play in 354 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: a dome stadium starting in twenty thirty one. 355 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 2: Hey, that's awesome. I don't know how you feel about that. 356 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 2: That's awesome. I love the domes. 357 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: I hate so. 358 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 2: The snow games. That real effect of the weather. 359 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that passion, so the others. Here's the 360 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: so very short term, very selfish. I like the dome 361 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 1: for Patrick's late thirties. 362 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 3: Oh and then the new guy is gonna be playing 363 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 3: in the dome the whole time. 364 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: So if we are just talking about maximizing like Mahomes' career, 365 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: having the fact that his age thirty five and older 366 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:27,479 Speaker 1: seasons will be in a dome is probably good. Yeah, Okay, 367 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: that's probably good. That to me is not worth the 368 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: trade off of football slowly but surely eliminating weather as 369 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 1: a component, Like I think we are moving towards a 370 00:25:55,840 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: reality of in a decade, there are are maybe three 371 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 1: or four stadiums in the country where weather plays a part, 372 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: and I don't like that for football. I think football 373 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: is a game made to be played in the elements. 374 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: I don't mind domes in warm weather places because it 375 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: feels like that's actually like the elements aren't going to 376 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 1: be a big issue there anyway, and so it allows 377 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: you to host more events. 378 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 2: Fine. 379 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 1: And I don't mind the Dome in Minnesota only because 380 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: that specific place can get so Maybe it's just because 381 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 1: I'm used to it, but it can get so much 382 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: snow that they have like cancel games, but I guess Buffalo. 383 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 1: So it's probably just because I'm used to it. But 384 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: I don't like football removing the elements and the idea 385 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 1: that because they build this stadium, Kansas City is going 386 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: to get a bunch of super Bowls. It's just not true. 387 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: I think they will probably get one, and people will 388 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: complain about the super Bowl being in Kansas City, and 389 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: you know what, they should because the super Bowl should 390 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: not be in Kansas City. Super Bowls shouldn't. I'm from there. 391 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: I love it. Super Bowl should not have ever been 392 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: in Minneapolis, it shouldn't have ever been in Indianapolis. It 393 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: shouldn't be in Kansas City. 394 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 2: The super Bowl sho, what does it need to be 395 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 2: in New Orleans? Or wait, what happened? 396 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: New Orleans? Miami, Vegas, LA? That's where the super Bowl elitist? Okay, 397 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: no cities, it's yeah, I guess. I mean New Orleans 398 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: isn't a big market. It's just awesome and the and 399 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: so I think we have seen cities that can do it. 400 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: And I'd be honestly okay with LA not being included. 401 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 1: I'd be fine with it just being Vegas Miami, New 402 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: Orleans that being the rotation. You can make the argument 403 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: for Phoenix, but I just think they're not the idea 404 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: that Kansas City is because they add this is going 405 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: to be a part of a Super Bowl rotation. That's 406 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: not gonna happen. Now. It's not gonna be every ten 407 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: years the biggest sporting event in the country, headquarters in 408 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: wyan Dot County for in February. It's just not happening. 409 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: But the big my biggest thing is on the field. 410 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: I don't like I like that weather matters, and I 411 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:45,719 Speaker 1: like that the Buffalo and Kansas City and Baltimore and 412 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and New England have to be able to play 413 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: in multiple settings. And I just I so yes, I 414 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: think it'll be good for Pat the end of you know, 415 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: the last quarter of Patrick's career. But it's to me 416 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: a bit of a bummer. And the other bomber is this, 417 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: You're gonna go from eighty thousand seats to about sixty 418 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:17,239 Speaker 1: eight thousand, and I'm going to be very interested and 419 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: I really hope that they that they find a way 420 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: because I think the tailgating will be great no matter 421 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: what one thing. Clark KHNT said yesterday. That's true. Is 422 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: parking lots don't tailgate people do, That's correct. I think 423 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: the tailgating pregame stuff. I trust they will make sure 424 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: that stays sacrisanct, because, like, if there's ever a reason 425 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: to go to an NFL game, going to Arrowhead to 426 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: tailgate before the game is one of the greatest things 427 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: in the NFL. And I think that will stay. But 428 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: I wonder if they're going to be able like and 429 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: but the other thing Clark said is seats and concrete 430 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: don't make noise. Fans do. That is true, but certain 431 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: stadiums are more we're conducive for noise than others. And 432 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: Arrowhead has been the loudest open air stadium in the 433 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: country forever. And I just hope they are able to 434 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: recreate that. 435 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 2: Is it. Is it going to have a new name, Well. 436 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: I would imagine they'll still call it Arrowhead. They've already 437 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:26,719 Speaker 1: kind of sold on that because it's technically Geha Field 438 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: at Arrowhead. And I've never totally understood naming right sponsorships, Like, 439 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: I don't know that anyone has paid more attention to 440 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs. I really don't know that anyone 441 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: in the world has paid more attention to the Kansity 442 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: chiefs than me certainly, uh since because the stadiums don't 443 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: even named that for like five years of the field 444 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: in that time prayer and I still don't. But I 445 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: still don't know what GHA is. Yeah, if you were 446 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: like this, I have no idea. I have no clue 447 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: what the I I don't know. Do they sell insurance? 448 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: Is it? Are they? I have a colt. I don't 449 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: know what it is. So it's it's always arrowhead to me. 450 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: But that's the the positive and the negative. That's what 451 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: it is. Now. Will Kn't City get a Final four? Maybe? 452 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: Like will they're like having a domed stadium? There is 453 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: there are benefits for it. 454 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 2: The h A is Government Employees Health Association. 455 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: Still don't know what it means. Does that mean they 456 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: they they? Does that mean they compete with the company 457 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: that Gronk advertises for So it is they're the competitors 458 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: of Gronk's company. What's that? What's the Gronk insurance company? 459 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: Where he's like, I wasn't in the military. Yeah, okay, 460 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: so EH and U SAA are competitors, all right, good 461 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: for them. 462 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 3: Do you think there's I'm sorry, just cut you off. 463 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 3: Do you think there's gonna be any teams that hold 464 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 3: out on this open air stadium closed team? Like could 465 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 3: you see Green Baby? And like the last team with 466 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 3: an open open stadium in thirty. 467 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: Years Buffalo's building a new stadium and Buffalo's new stadium 468 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: doesn't have a roof, right, fact check me on that. 469 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 2: Okay, well that's good for something then. 470 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and butfo yeah, and it's Buffalo. But I 471 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. The Chiefs playing in a dome feels 472 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: weird to me. I'm sure I get used to it. 473 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: And if Old Mahomes is just lighting people up, maybe 474 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: I'll be fine with it. 475 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 3: But maybe because I'm a not a savant and like 476 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 3: a football historian, I just don't see why you would 477 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 3: want like and this is like I hear a lot 478 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 3: of people that's their take. They want there to be snow, 479 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 3: the incluent weather. Why would you not just want them 480 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 3: to perform to their best ability like any other sport, 481 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 3: Like I feel like there's no sport. 482 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: It's because that's so That's where that's where I disagree 483 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: with you, know what you're saying a lot of people 484 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: feel that way. It just it just depends on how 485 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: you look at it. I look at being great at 486 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: football intrinsically, meaning that you can have different types of 487 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: game plans and different abilities in different weather. Yeah, because 488 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: I think that is part of building a team. I 489 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: think part of building a team is teaching them how 490 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: to exploit different weather conditions. I think that is as 491 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: intrinsic to the game as kick returning, Like that's part 492 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: of it. And I think removing it people a lot 493 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: of people feel like, oh, you were move it, and 494 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: that then makes it more pure. I feel like it 495 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: makes it less pure. And I I understand in basketball 496 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: that doesn't exist. Everything the same, all of it. 497 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 3: Like soccer, like I mean, I don't know if they 498 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 3: played definitely they play soccer in the snow or like 499 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 3: light snow. 500 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 2: They obviously can like heavy rain. 501 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: That's fair, but the soccer is an outdoor sport and 502 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: being able to handle heat is a bigger thing in soccer. 503 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 3: Like yeah, yeah, the yeah, yeah, I guess I'm always 504 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,760 Speaker 3: looking for the light show I'm seeing these games. 505 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 2: That's fair. 506 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: That's the way the NFL is moving that. It just 507 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,240 Speaker 1: bums me out. I mean, but again, I'm a grand 508 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: poll now. 509 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 2: And I'm sorry to those historians that stuff has changed. 510 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: No, it's fine. Just so many of the like the 511 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 1: great moments in NFL history are playoff games in the 512 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: elements and and that'll be a bummer for me, But 513 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: you know nothing to cry about. I just I don't 514 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: love it. That to me matters a lot more than 515 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: the fact that they're moving twenty minutes west across state lines. 516 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: Want to know where I bet on sports during the 517 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 1: holiday season. 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In some of the other. 544 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 3: Games, Ravens hanging by a thread. Drake May was looking 545 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 3: poor in the first half. Rallied Lamar Jackson came out 546 00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 3: of the game with I think like a rib injury. 547 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,840 Speaker 2: We lost the game. Now we have a seven percent 548 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 2: chance of making the playoffs. Yeah yeah, how ye? Who 549 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 2: do you think this is big wrong? The Ravens or Patriots? 550 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: I think, well, listen, I think it's a Let me 551 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,320 Speaker 1: start with the Patriots. And what was I'm trying to 552 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: remember because there was a clip from last week's show. 553 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 1: Was it about Lamar? What was the clip? Maybe the 554 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 1: producers saw it as well. There is a clip of 555 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 1: I did some take that I don't even know if 556 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 1: demanse agreed with, but it was massively aggregated, and it 557 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 1: was aggregated with the monsee and I split screen. And 558 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 1: I always find this funny because I wasn't do you 559 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: guys remember what I'm talking about? Was it my last 560 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 1: week from it was from Thursday show. I can't even 561 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 1: remember what we talked about on Thursday. 562 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 3: But regardless, Lamar's health, niquill and sickness and stuff, but 563 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 3: it was something else other than that. 564 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,479 Speaker 2: Probably That's why. 565 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,359 Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember. What are If I had our 566 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 1: rundown from last week in front of me, I could 567 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: I could think of it. I'm trying to think if 568 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: it's Lamar because the reason I thought of that is 569 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 1: it might happen again this week, but uh the let's 570 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 1: start with the Patriots. I think that was a growing 571 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 1: up moment for Drake Drake. I think that Drake was 572 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 1: playing one of his worst games of the year and 573 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 1: for him to rally the way he did and make 574 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 1: the I mean, he obviously had the one great deep 575 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 1: pass that was robbed from him on the miss DPI, 576 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 1: but didn't matter. He had already the touchdown pass he 577 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 1: threw to the front corner of the end zone. Yeah, 578 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 1: was unbelievable. I thought that was great, and I I 579 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 1: think that on top of that, Uhle's hold on. I 580 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 1: think Paul just texted to me, Oh, this is what 581 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:58,360 Speaker 1: it was. Sorry, it was the thank you, Paul. It 582 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 1: was the whimby stuff. It was me saying I don't 583 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,399 Speaker 1: need to be lectured by the old French kid. That 584 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 1: the people got super mad at that take and you're 585 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 1: just sitting there like listening. It's just super funny. Thank you, Paul. 586 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 1: The no the people got mad at I think my 587 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:22,320 Speaker 1: Lamar h takes from TV. But sorry, I'm interrupting myself. 588 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:27,840 Speaker 1: I thought the Drake may touchdown pass was unild The 589 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 1: bomb was unbelievable. The fourth and two play which kept 590 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 1: him alive to go win the game. It was just 591 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 1: past the sideline, but it was an absolute laser that 592 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 1: I thought was gonna be knocked down. He was excellent. 593 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: And Drake May's the real deal. 594 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the real hand. 595 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:50,439 Speaker 1: And uh, the Patriots they had to win that game 596 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: because while I thought sometimes the schedule stuff got a 597 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 1: little overblown, if they had played that soft schedule and 598 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,760 Speaker 1: then lost to Buffalo and Baltimore, it'd be like, Okay, 599 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. 600 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 2: They're they're a really. 601 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're Oh, they're ahead of schedule. They're better than 602 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: all the JV teams, but they're not an A lister, 603 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 1: And I think they proved they're A listers. And so 604 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,359 Speaker 1: I think that is that's the Patriots piece of it. 605 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 1: And they've got. 606 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,319 Speaker 2: They got their quarterback. The guy looks like. I think 607 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 2: that guy's gonna be in the league for a really 608 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 2: really long time. Yeah, yeah, I solid, man. 609 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,879 Speaker 1: I think he is just going to be a top 610 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 1: five quarterback. Yeah. Forward, he's legit. He is, without a 611 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:50,320 Speaker 1: doubt legit. And then you get to the Ravens and 612 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 1: there's a lot here. They blew another big lead. Everyone's 613 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 1: blaming hardball. They didn't give the ball to they didn't 614 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: have Derrick Henry on the field for their last two possessions. 615 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:13,879 Speaker 1: People are understandably blaming hardball. Another can I call it 616 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: without people freaking out? Weird injury thing with Lamar I do. 617 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 3: I do feel strongly that he could have came back 618 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 3: in the game. Watching the like and it's and it's 619 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,839 Speaker 3: a rivengery. I do think he could have come back 620 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 3: in that game. And I don't like doing that or 621 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,359 Speaker 3: like being like so I don't know what the guy 622 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,760 Speaker 3: was feeling, but I don't know, like he was moving around, 623 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 3: he's like on the side, like like I've had a 624 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 3: ribbery before. 625 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 2: And I just I don't know. I felt like he 626 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 2: could have kept played, especially in that situation. We have 627 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:44,800 Speaker 2: the game. We just need you to manage. 628 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 1: But I so listen, I hate that you're the one 629 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 1: that said that instead of me, because and I want 630 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 1: this if this gets aggregated, people to understand he could 631 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:59,320 Speaker 1: Its just Demonte's favorite team and the guy he's ridden 632 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 1: with more than anybody. Yeah, but I was shocked he 633 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 1: didn't go back in and when he didn't go back in. 634 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 1: Let me rephrase that, I was not shocked he didn't 635 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 1: go back in. We didn't go back in. I assumed 636 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,799 Speaker 1: we were going to get the news yesterday that he 637 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 1: broke his ribs, that he had cracked ribs, that even 638 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 1: though the hit didn't the need didn't look that bad. 639 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 1: But you never know, you know how that is. And 640 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: so I just assumed, like, oh man, there's he, like 641 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 1: he's he probably isn't gonna play this coming week, and 642 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:44,719 Speaker 1: that's it's a rap. And when Harbaugh came out yesterday 643 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:50,719 Speaker 1: and said it's just a bad contusion and he's day 644 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 1: to day, I was stunned. Now again, it's weird because 645 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:05,359 Speaker 1: Lamar is obviously tough, and obviously he's played cares so 646 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 1: I so that's why I'm saying, it's just another weird 647 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:16,839 Speaker 1: injury thing with Lamar, where now he has suffered a 648 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 1: hamstring injury that nobody saw when it happened, but obviously 649 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 1: was a real one, like a not real as opposed 650 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 1: to real versus fake. I should have said a significant 651 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 1: one to where he missed multiple games, including a game 652 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 1: after a buye that his coach thought he would be 653 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 1: back for and then had knee ankle toe injuries that 654 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 1: made him miss practice but not miss any games, but 655 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:46,880 Speaker 1: he then wasn't effective in the games. Then his you know, 656 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 1: annual December cold had to miss practice, and now what 657 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 1: looked like a relatively banal play knocked him out for 658 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 1: the most critical half of their season, basically playing an 659 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:11,279 Speaker 1: elimination game. It's just weird. And I'm not trying to 660 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:16,840 Speaker 1: be like cag with my analysis here. I'm not trying 661 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 1: to hint at anything, but I'm also not going to 662 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 1: act like it's not weird. And it's very very hard 663 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:38,280 Speaker 1: not to go to the other quarterbacks in Lamar's tax 664 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 1: bracket and echelon, and I'd ask yourself, do we think 665 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 1: they would have an injury that the next day their 666 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 1: coach calls day to day and expects them to play 667 00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:01,800 Speaker 1: the next week, that we wouldn't have seen them back 668 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 1: on the field at least trying seeing giving it a 669 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 1: go and then maybe Okay, this isn't gonna work. I 670 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 1: don't know, I feel like you would have, and so 671 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:12,800 Speaker 1: it's just odd. 672 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:19,680 Speaker 2: And I go about Baltimore. See so with the situation, Harball, 673 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:20,520 Speaker 2: whatever it is. 674 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,320 Speaker 1: Let me tweak that there you go, I don't because 675 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 1: I said this a few weeks ago. I don't think 676 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 1: he wants out. I think he might be over Harball 677 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 1: and that this has run its course, and that Lamar 678 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,960 Speaker 1: is resigned to the fact that this is a lost season, 679 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 1: and it is a lost season, and this was the 680 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:59,799 Speaker 1: the biggest thing I said yesterday on TV that I 681 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 1: think people maybe took issue with. But again, we won't 682 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 1: know for five years, but I'll I think this will 683 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 1: age well. I am not saying Lamar will never make 684 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,759 Speaker 1: or win a super Bowl. What I am saying is 685 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 1: I think when his career is over, we will look 686 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 1: at the best chances he had were these past three years. 687 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:30,920 Speaker 1: They were the solitary super Bowl favorite at multiple points 688 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 1: in each of the last three seasons. They were the 689 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,600 Speaker 1: super Bowl preseason favorite this year. And to come out 690 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 1: of these three years with two total playoff victories, come 691 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 1: out of the twenty twenties so far twenty one, twenty two, 692 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 1: twenty three, twenty four to twenty five with two total 693 00:46:54,160 --> 00:47:02,440 Speaker 1: playoff victories is stunning. And now I think you start 694 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:12,840 Speaker 1: a new era with a new head coach Demons. Before 695 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,360 Speaker 1: we move on to side of it, I want to 696 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:20,600 Speaker 1: give you some news. Zay Flowers name to the Pro 697 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:24,759 Speaker 1: Bowl this morning. Now go ahead, I know you have 698 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,880 Speaker 1: a potential Zay Flowers take. 699 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 3: Just run straight, man, please just run straight, and just 700 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 3: be a little bit tighter with the football. I just 701 00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,240 Speaker 3: think that there there have been a couple of big 702 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 3: situations and the biggest point of the season, and I 703 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,239 Speaker 3: think the guy is loose with the football. He's trying 704 00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 3: to play like backyard football or something, making these cuts backwards. 705 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,359 Speaker 3: And that's not like the only time that I've seen 706 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,719 Speaker 3: him do that, but just in the bigger instances, it's like, dude, 707 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,960 Speaker 3: just just be tirer with the football. Don't try to 708 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,839 Speaker 3: get it all one play, go down or something. It's 709 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:57,800 Speaker 3: just kind of frustrated. 710 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,560 Speaker 1: And he has said he was gonna do that, yeah, 711 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,319 Speaker 1: and then he has not done that. 712 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:04,880 Speaker 2: He's loose. It's just loose. 713 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,719 Speaker 1: And it's the end. He doesn't fumble a lot, but 714 00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:14,240 Speaker 1: you remember the fumbles. Yeah, you're youber. There are big moments, 715 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,919 Speaker 1: all right. This also got you know, there's extra bad 716 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 1: for Baltimore because of Pittsburgh's green in the day. I 717 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:24,759 Speaker 1: know you have a question about that. 718 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,920 Speaker 2: What'd you think of the end of that game Pittsburgh Detroit. 719 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,319 Speaker 2: So I. 720 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 1: Thought a couple of things. One is this, you're the 721 00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:40,879 Speaker 1: Detroit Lions with Dan the man Campbell. You're biting knee caps. 722 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,160 Speaker 1: You have first and goal from the one with twenty 723 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:50,959 Speaker 1: two seconds in a timeout. Run the ball, run the ball. 724 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 1: The you ran a little fancy little pick play. You 725 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:59,240 Speaker 1: got OPI like you're supposed to be this big, strong, tough, 726 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:00,320 Speaker 1: smack smouth. 727 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:05,279 Speaker 2: Get it. 728 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,000 Speaker 1: You're the one yard line. So that's first point. That 729 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:15,160 Speaker 1: was on the first OPI. The second OPI, I don't 730 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:20,280 Speaker 1: know if I love that OPI call. I also don't 731 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:24,360 Speaker 1: think that should have mattered because a Monros Saint Brown, 732 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 1: by any definition ever, was short of the end zone 733 00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:34,560 Speaker 1: on fourth down. And here's the critical piece. Had his 734 00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:38,799 Speaker 1: momentum stopped, his forward ruggers was stopped. Now, they didn't 735 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,279 Speaker 1: blow it dead, but that was asinine. Had there not 736 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:47,080 Speaker 1: been a called OPI and that a Monro Saint Brown 737 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:52,480 Speaker 1: lateral which happened three seconds and five yards after he 738 00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,839 Speaker 1: was first hit when he was pushed backwards, had they 739 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,840 Speaker 1: not said that play was blown dead, that would have 740 00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:04,440 Speaker 1: been an outrage because the reason, you know is forward 741 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,000 Speaker 1: momentum was stopped and everyone thought the play was over. 742 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 1: Was the other Steelers could have gone up and hit 743 00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,799 Speaker 1: him as well. There were two pushing him, but they 744 00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,000 Speaker 1: didn't because they knew obviously that play was supposed to 745 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,040 Speaker 1: be over. So I didn't think Detroit got screwed. I 746 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,520 Speaker 1: do think Pittsburgh, where I have to give him credit 747 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:26,319 Speaker 1: to Monse is they're playing their best ball. Rogers is 748 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,600 Speaker 1: playing his best ball. You And here is the important 749 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:36,200 Speaker 1: thing for Pittsburgh. If you beat the Browns, your old 750 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:40,600 Speaker 1: ass team, with your old ass quarterback, you can give 751 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:46,239 Speaker 1: yourselves a bye week that's super valuable. Because you beat 752 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:52,040 Speaker 1: the Browns and Week eighteen is truly wholly and entirely 753 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:57,600 Speaker 1: meaningless for you. You will have locked up the four seed. 754 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,680 Speaker 1: You will not be able to improve your seed, and 755 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:07,360 Speaker 1: you can just rest Rogers, rest whomever else DK is 756 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:12,560 Speaker 1: gonna be resting either way, and you'll be at home 757 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,120 Speaker 1: for two weeks leading into the playoffs, which is a 758 00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:19,920 Speaker 1: home game. So Steelers beat the Browns, and they all 759 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:26,000 Speaker 1: of a sudden, depending on who they draw, are live now. 760 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,239 Speaker 1: I don't think they're live against Buffalo, but Buffalo's not 761 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:35,120 Speaker 1: guaranteed to be the five seed. And so that's a 762 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:38,800 Speaker 1: great weekend for Pittsburgh. All right, let's go on to 763 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,799 Speaker 1: the other game. Actually, before we do that, Demanse, let 764 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,880 Speaker 1: me do this. You ever notice how everything keeps going up. 765 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,400 Speaker 1: Rent's going up, streaming services going up. Your favorite burrito spot, 766 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,440 Speaker 1: thinks Sauls as cost extra both Boost Mobile, you and 767 00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,239 Speaker 1: your phone build off to play the will this go 768 00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,440 Speaker 1: up Soon? Game? Why? Because boost moa is unlimited talk, 769 00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,359 Speaker 1: text and data playing at a price that will never 770 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,520 Speaker 1: go up. In fact, same you'll pay for life. So 771 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:05,319 Speaker 1: switch now for unlimited wireless at a price that'll never 772 00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:09,440 Speaker 1: go up. Only at boost Mobile. After thirty gigs, customers 773 00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,600 Speaker 1: may experience lower speeds. Customers will pay twenty five dollars 774 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,880 Speaker 1: per month as long as they remain active on the 775 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:19,600 Speaker 1: boost Unlimited plan. All right, let's keep going with these 776 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:20,200 Speaker 1: other games. 777 00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:24,080 Speaker 2: Caleb Williams and the Comeback over Green Bay. I saw 778 00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:25,840 Speaker 2: some beautiful stuff from this car over the weekend. 779 00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,880 Speaker 3: Jordan Love got knocked out of the game, but I 780 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,480 Speaker 3: think a concussion didn't matter though, because Willis came in 781 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:32,920 Speaker 3: and he was cooking too, so I think there is 782 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,320 Speaker 3: still a solid win. Cook the on side kick in overtime, 783 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,880 Speaker 3: some dots into the end zone. How what should Bears 784 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,200 Speaker 3: fans expectations be at this point of the season. 785 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:49,080 Speaker 1: Well, listen, that was an unbelievable win. And post on 786 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:54,399 Speaker 1: sidekick Caleb was unreal. The fourth down throw to say 787 00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:58,760 Speaker 1: keep the game alive was perfect. The overtime touchdown pass 788 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:03,640 Speaker 1: was perfect. Now you do have to acknowledge all of 789 00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:11,760 Speaker 1: Caleb's great moments happened after an onside kick, and that means, 790 00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:17,120 Speaker 1: by definition, they were incredibly lucky that they had a 791 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,880 Speaker 1: chance for those to happen, Like onside kicks just you 792 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,520 Speaker 1: cover ten percent of them and so, but that's football 793 00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:31,400 Speaker 1: like that the sometimes you need that little opening to 794 00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:38,200 Speaker 1: redeem yourself. And now the Bears are locked into the 795 00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:44,680 Speaker 1: playoffs feeling great and I think feeling like we can 796 00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,560 Speaker 1: play better because Caleb's highs have been unbelievable, but he 797 00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,920 Speaker 1: hasn't been consistent yet. That is like a fair critique, 798 00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:52,680 Speaker 1: But the. 799 00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,759 Speaker 2: That he hasn't been like really bad either though, Like 800 00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,560 Speaker 2: I feel like he's gone right, that's right. 801 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,680 Speaker 1: I think that's a great way to put it. He is. 802 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:12,440 Speaker 1: He has had high highs and high lows, but he 803 00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:20,480 Speaker 1: has not had enough. So and he just hasn't been 804 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:24,719 Speaker 1: consistent though, but you see it, and and if you're 805 00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,960 Speaker 1: you mentioned Malik Willis, I want to say something about 806 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:32,160 Speaker 1: him and Matt Lafore. Malik Willis has been excellent as 807 00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,480 Speaker 1: a backup for them. He might get a look somewhere 808 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:41,080 Speaker 1: next year because of this. And there is a real 809 00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:45,800 Speaker 1: benefit to now having the track record that Matt Lafore 810 00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:49,759 Speaker 1: built with Malik Willis, which is you should always have 811 00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:54,160 Speaker 1: a good backup quarterback now because quarterbacks that are trying 812 00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,480 Speaker 1: to rebuild their value will want to go to Green 813 00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:01,160 Speaker 1: Bay and he clearly can coach these guys up. So 814 00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,840 Speaker 1: that has like a real long term impact and effect. 815 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:10,839 Speaker 1: I'm checking right now. I think Malik Willis is a 816 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,799 Speaker 1: free agent after this year, yeah, because he was still 817 00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:19,520 Speaker 1: on his rookie deal. So Malik Willis could be looking 818 00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:25,840 Speaker 1: at like one of those one year, ten twelve million 819 00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:36,239 Speaker 1: dollar deals from a team that stopgap situation. Could Could 820 00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:40,640 Speaker 1: the Colts sign him while they're waiting on Daniel Jones 821 00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 1: to recover something like that, Like, I think that's on 822 00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:48,240 Speaker 1: the board, So I think that is interesting. I also 823 00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,359 Speaker 1: think that because of Detroit's loss, green Bay is going 824 00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:56,279 Speaker 1: to be fine. But the injuries are just piling up 825 00:55:56,320 --> 00:56:03,560 Speaker 1: on them, and they're not. Here's the scenario for the 826 00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:08,719 Speaker 1: Lions to get in and the Packers to be out 827 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:13,120 Speaker 1: is very simple. The Packers have to lose out and 828 00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:19,720 Speaker 1: the Lions have to win out. Now that's not outrageous 829 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,680 Speaker 1: when you say there's only two games left. It would 830 00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:27,839 Speaker 1: mean the Packers have to lose to Baltimore and to Minnesota, 831 00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,879 Speaker 1: two seven and eight disappointing teams. I know in our 832 00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,640 Speaker 1: head one team's way better than the other, but they're not. 833 00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:40,359 Speaker 1: So the Packers would have to lose to Baltimore and 834 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:45,120 Speaker 1: in Minnesota, and the Lions would have to beat Minnesota 835 00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:48,200 Speaker 1: and Chicago in the final week of the year. So 836 00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:53,680 Speaker 1: Packers aren't in. But it would take a disaster, and 837 00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,680 Speaker 1: that also means Lions are basically out. All right, Let's 838 00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,920 Speaker 1: talk about my favorite game of the weekend, Demonsey. 839 00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,600 Speaker 3: So you're and Trevor Lawrence went and hung thirty four 840 00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,800 Speaker 3: on that top rated defense in Denver. Nobody's believed in 841 00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,000 Speaker 3: this team except for you, through and through. Are you 842 00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,960 Speaker 3: ready to take a victory lap or ere? The your 843 00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,080 Speaker 3: sights higher for them in the postseason? 844 00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:18,680 Speaker 1: Sites are higher? Man was playing out of his mind. 845 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:26,560 Speaker 1: Everten nobody good against that Denver defense. Nobody and Trevor 846 00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:32,760 Speaker 1: carved him up. Yeah, and they now they have a sneak, 847 00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:39,360 Speaker 1: not sneaky, but they have a path to the one seed. 848 00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:45,880 Speaker 1: So let me tell you explain what it is. They 849 00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,000 Speaker 1: they have to win out. Obviously, who do they play. 850 00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:54,280 Speaker 1: They are in Indie, which just saw essentially their season 851 00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:59,080 Speaker 1: end last night, and home for the Titans. Two and zero, 852 00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:05,680 Speaker 1: no problem they So if they do that, we go 853 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:10,160 Speaker 1: to the old athletic playoff predictor they have. If they 854 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,920 Speaker 1: go to and zero, they have a thirty percent chance 855 00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:18,720 Speaker 1: of the three seed, a fifty two percent chance of 856 00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:25,640 Speaker 1: the two seed, and a eighteen percent chance of the 857 00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:30,400 Speaker 1: one seed. So how do they get the one seed? Again, 858 00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:35,240 Speaker 1: this part's pretty simple as well. The Broncos are going 859 00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:38,720 Speaker 1: to beat the Chiefs, so we can't ask for the 860 00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:43,840 Speaker 1: Broncos to beat the Chiefs to beat the Broncos. But 861 00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:49,320 Speaker 1: if the Broncos then lose to the Chargers in Week eighteen, 862 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:54,120 Speaker 1: then what the Jags would need to be the one 863 00:58:54,200 --> 00:59:00,600 Speaker 1: seed is the Patriots to lose. It's hard gonna lie 864 00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,200 Speaker 1: either to the Jets or the Dolphins, and then that 865 00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:08,520 Speaker 1: so what the what the Jags need is the Patriots 866 00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:13,120 Speaker 1: and Broncos to lose at least once and they'll be 867 00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:16,680 Speaker 1: the one seed. What I am more interested in is 868 00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:20,480 Speaker 1: how do they get the two seed? They because I 869 00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:24,960 Speaker 1: think that's more realistic. I think it's the same thing. Actually, 870 00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:32,160 Speaker 1: they need the they for them to get the two seed, 871 00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:39,960 Speaker 1: they need the Patriots to lose once. Uh wait, is 872 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:40,840 Speaker 1: that not right? 873 00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:41,280 Speaker 2: Hold on? 874 00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:48,760 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm confused here. Let me look the I might 875 00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,040 Speaker 1: be confused on this one, because this says the more 876 00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:54,280 Speaker 1: likely if the Patriots win. Oh, because they get that, 877 00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:58,800 Speaker 1: they have the tiebreaker with New England and hold on, 878 00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,640 Speaker 1: is this correct? I have to look this up real quick. Sorry, 879 01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:06,960 Speaker 1: I care about the Jags. I'm the only person the 880 01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:10,400 Speaker 1: they do have. They would have the tiebreaker with New England. 881 01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:16,120 Speaker 1: But New England. I'm so confused by this right now, 882 01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:19,040 Speaker 1: hold on, let me let me figure this out real quick. 883 01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:25,400 Speaker 1: Oh hold on, you know what, this is bad podcasting. 884 01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:30,680 Speaker 1: I'm not doing the regardless, they're in great shape and 885 01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:35,560 Speaker 1: Trevor's playing great and Liam Cohen's been awesome. There's just 886 01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:36,320 Speaker 1: no way around it. 887 01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,440 Speaker 2: If they go on a deep playoff run, do you 888 01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:41,000 Speaker 2: think it would ease the pain of your chief season 889 01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:42,880 Speaker 2: this year? Yeah? 890 01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:47,280 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Can you imagine? I gotta tell you, just like, 891 01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:54,000 Speaker 1: right back up, how obnoxious I'm going to be if 892 01:00:54,840 --> 01:01:01,080 Speaker 1: Trevor makes a Super Bowl before Lamar and Josh Come 893 01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:08,200 Speaker 1: on god, yeah, oh my goodness, gracious, all right, let's 894 01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:09,720 Speaker 1: talk Thursday night football quick. 895 01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,360 Speaker 3: So yeah, that game Seahawks ended up pulling out, pulling 896 01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,040 Speaker 3: out the comeback last night. Forty nine ers made sure 897 01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,360 Speaker 3: we didn't forget about them, and they beat the crap 898 01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:20,600 Speaker 3: out of the Colts. I gotta I gotta be honest. 899 01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:21,600 Speaker 3: I turned that game. 900 01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:24,800 Speaker 2: Off the Seahawks. Was it? Seahawks Rams? 901 01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,440 Speaker 3: Donald threw the pike the sixteen the year it was 902 01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,160 Speaker 3: like thirty fourteen, Yeah, thirty to fourteen, nine minutes of 903 01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:30,840 Speaker 3: they came back. 904 01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:33,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. How are we feeling about the NFC? 905 01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I think the Rams are the best team. 906 01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:43,840 Speaker 1: But that's a devastating loss. And Donald was awesome in 907 01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:48,200 Speaker 1: overtime and maybe that'll be a fork in the road 908 01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:53,840 Speaker 1: moment for him. But every concern you had about Donald 909 01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:57,000 Speaker 1: going into that game, he lived up to those concerns. 910 01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:01,240 Speaker 1: For the first three and a half quarters. Seattle is 911 01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:04,280 Speaker 1: such an excellent team. They were able to overcome it, 912 01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:10,360 Speaker 1: and Rashid Shaheed's punt return was great, But I still 913 01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:13,440 Speaker 1: think the Rams are the best team and the Niners. 914 01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:19,040 Speaker 1: Credit to Shanahan, credit to Purty, who was great last night. Again, 915 01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:23,280 Speaker 1: every the somehow we're gonna have another where I'm gonna 916 01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:25,800 Speaker 1: be drawn into more Brock Party arguments, even though we 917 01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,560 Speaker 1: saw Mac Jones step in for him and be a 918 01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:31,200 Speaker 1: B plus version of him, which proved everything I always 919 01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:34,280 Speaker 1: said about that offense and that team. But whatever, it's 920 01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,280 Speaker 1: just my destiny to have to always to have to 921 01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,320 Speaker 1: argue about the forty nine Ers quarterback be proven right 922 01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:44,960 Speaker 1: through an odd real life NFL experiment, and then have 923 01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,600 Speaker 1: folks pretend that it's just coincidence that everything I said 924 01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,760 Speaker 1: would happen is exactly what happened. But Party was excellent. 925 01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:54,040 Speaker 1: I don't think the Niners defense is good enough for 926 01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:57,600 Speaker 1: a playoff run, but their offense is elite right now, 927 01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:02,000 Speaker 1: so I would power rank it Ram, Seahawks, Niners. What 928 01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:09,160 Speaker 1: is interesting, though, is the Seahawks and Niners are the 929 01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:12,600 Speaker 1: teams that control their own destiny for a one seed 930 01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:16,560 Speaker 1: and the Rams ability so if the because the Seahawks 931 01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:20,240 Speaker 1: have two games left Bears Niners. If they win both, 932 01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,600 Speaker 1: they get the one seed and the bye. The Niners 933 01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:27,959 Speaker 1: have two games left. I'm sorry I said that wrong. 934 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:32,400 Speaker 1: By the way, the Niners two games left are Bears Seahawks. 935 01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,160 Speaker 1: If they win both of those games, they get the 936 01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:37,880 Speaker 1: one seed. They get the buye. The Seahawks have two 937 01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:41,680 Speaker 1: games left Panthers Niners. If they win both those games, 938 01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:45,040 Speaker 1: they get the one seed. They get the buye. For 939 01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:49,480 Speaker 1: the Rams to get the one seed, they need a 940 01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:54,760 Speaker 1: very specific set of things to happen. Obviously, they have 941 01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:58,600 Speaker 1: to go to and zero. They play Falcons Cardinals, and 942 01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:08,200 Speaker 1: then their smoothest path would be the Panthers beating the 943 01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:18,720 Speaker 1: Seahawks and then the Seahawks beating the Bears, But then 944 01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:26,040 Speaker 1: they also need the Bears, not to Seahawks beating the Niners. 945 01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:29,680 Speaker 1: Is the last thing. I apologize. I'm explaining this poorly. 946 01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:32,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try again. For the Rams to be the 947 01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:36,520 Speaker 1: one seed, they need to go to and zero and 948 01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:40,320 Speaker 1: then their easiest path would be Panthers beat the Seahawks, 949 01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:50,600 Speaker 1: Seahawks beat the Niners, and then either the Bears lose 950 01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:53,400 Speaker 1: to the Lions or the Bears lose to the Niners, 951 01:04:53,800 --> 01:05:03,520 Speaker 1: so they need somehow Essentially, the Rams do. The Bears, Seahawks, 952 01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:07,800 Speaker 1: and forty nine Ers to all lose at least once, 953 01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:13,720 Speaker 1: which is tricky because they play each other, and so 954 01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:17,560 Speaker 1: the Rams' ability to get the one seed is quite slim. 955 01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:21,640 Speaker 1: And I think that matters because again weather matters, they 956 01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:23,919 Speaker 1: would be they would have been in so fi they'd 957 01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,640 Speaker 1: had the rest. So I think they're the best team. 958 01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:32,840 Speaker 1: But that loss is devastating to them, and I still 959 01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:34,680 Speaker 1: can't believe they lost the game the way they did. 960 01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:36,840 Speaker 1: All right, let me quickly go through these other games. 961 01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:41,160 Speaker 1: Eagles beat the Commanders and Marcus mariotis slash, Josh Johnson, 962 01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:45,200 Speaker 1: Saquon looks great, Jalen played really well. We'll see Eagles 963 01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:48,560 Speaker 1: big test this weekend against Buffalo. Panthers beat the Bucks 964 01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:53,680 Speaker 1: in a game I can't I'm not gonna explain all 965 01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:56,960 Speaker 1: the ins and outs of it. The short version is this, 966 01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:05,280 Speaker 1: given the way to Sunday football went, had Baker not 967 01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:12,040 Speaker 1: thrown that interception, I would have taken the money that 968 01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:14,800 Speaker 1: Demands had loaned me earlier in the day that I 969 01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:23,160 Speaker 1: talked about earlier and spun it into forty one thousand dollars. 970 01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:29,439 Speaker 1: That is not an exaggeration, That is not a oh 971 01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:32,920 Speaker 1: you needed all these things to happen. It's very simple. 972 01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:44,600 Speaker 1: Had the Bucks won that game thanks to a very 973 01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:47,040 Speaker 1: savvy bet I placed with our friends at hard Rock, 974 01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:52,120 Speaker 1: I would have hit a nice little Christmas forty one 975 01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:56,960 Speaker 1: thousand dollars bonus are you doing? Baker threw one of 976 01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:57,960 Speaker 1: the worst picks. 977 01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:01,240 Speaker 2: Of them, and he was like peaking her. He was 978 01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:02,520 Speaker 2: peaking around his old lineman. 979 01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:07,240 Speaker 1: I can't I can't talk about I can't talk Bill's 980 01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:09,320 Speaker 1: beat the Browns twenty three to twenty in a game 981 01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,840 Speaker 1: Josh Allen didn't have to do anything, which is crazy 982 01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:14,000 Speaker 1: because all I hear about is how Josh Allen has 983 01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:17,160 Speaker 1: no help. I don't know. Having the freaking rushing champ 984 01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:19,360 Speaker 1: in James Cook seems like a little bit of help, 985 01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:22,200 Speaker 1: but what do I know. There. Chargers beat the Cowboys 986 01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:25,040 Speaker 1: in a game I got dead wrong. Justin Herbert played great. 987 01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:28,280 Speaker 1: I think you know he was just named the Pro Bowl. 988 01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:31,200 Speaker 1: By the way, it's Josh Allen. Drake made Justin Herbert 989 01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:33,920 Speaker 1: shout out Herbert. Texans beat the Raiders in a game 990 01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:38,200 Speaker 1: that nobody watched. But the Texans looked awful, and the 991 01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:41,760 Speaker 1: Texans offense has been shaky all year long, all year. 992 01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:45,960 Speaker 1: Bengals beat the Dolphins forty five twenty one. Quinn your 993 01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:49,680 Speaker 1: is not really an NFL quarterback, and the Bengals ripped 994 01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:53,320 Speaker 1: up the Dolphins defense. Vikings beat the Jets sixteen thirteen 995 01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:55,080 Speaker 1: in the game. I didn't spend a second watching, but 996 01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,600 Speaker 1: I saw Jackson dart through for thirty three yards and 997 01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:00,880 Speaker 1: played the whole game. That seems weird. Saints, he played 998 01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:03,720 Speaker 1: the whole game. Demanday. Saints beat the Jets twenty nine 999 01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:06,560 Speaker 1: to six. Tyler Shutt continues to play well and Falcons 1000 01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:08,959 Speaker 1: beat the Cardinals twenty six to nineteen in a game 1001 01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:12,720 Speaker 1: that happened, but I have no proof of it. All right, Uh, 1002 01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:16,040 Speaker 1: thank you everybody. We're gonna step aside here. We have 1003 01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:20,680 Speaker 1: a week seventeen gambling show coming to you tomorrow. We 1004 01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:24,080 Speaker 1: will bring that to you guys tomorrow. We're gonna have 1005 01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:28,559 Speaker 1: the firing in these lines early in the week. See 1006 01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:30,840 Speaker 1: how we do. We'll do that tomorrow. Thank you to 1007 01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:34,439 Speaker 1: Volume and Blue Duck. Thank you to Hard Rock, bet 1008 01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:37,479 Speaker 1: Boost and Zen. Talk to us tomorrow for the gambling show. 1009 01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:37,880 Speaker 1: What's right