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Here Queen go one end to catch at 11 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: a touchdown? Oh babyho film. Here's Craig Griolu, Paul CALVC 12 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: and three time pro bowler Kyle Van Deenbosch Rookie Minicamp check, 13 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: OTA's check mandatory minicamp check, which means now it is 14 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: the countdown to training camp before the regular season starts. Thankfully, 15 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 1: there is still plenty of business for us to cover 16 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: today right here on the Cardinal's Red Sea Report, presented 17 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: by Siki get your seat in a seat along with 18 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: former Arizona Cardinal Kyle Van Debosh, Paul KLVC. I'm Danny 19 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: Serak filling in for Craig Grilou. We should start by 20 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: I should start by rather congratulate, thanking the two of 21 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: you for spending this holiday with me. I learned on 22 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: Twitter that it is National Arizona Day, so thank you 23 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: for being here to celebrate. I did not know that 24 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: National Arizona Day. Yes, Paul, it seems to be a 25 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: non sequitor. I mean, a state in a national it 26 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: just doesn't seem to go together all that. Well, you're 27 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: a green Kyle on that. I agree. I think we 28 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: should celebrate it in January February when you can enjoy 29 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: the weather and it's not so hot outside. I mean, 30 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: how do you celebrate National Arizona Day in June? Stay 31 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: inside in the air conditioning. I'll tell you what. A 32 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: week ago today it was National Kyle Vanenbosch Day in 33 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: the eyes of Cameron Thomas, because we were entering into 34 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: this very studio to record Big Red Rage a segment 35 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: there Danny and I introduced. He's like, Wow, who's this guy? 36 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: He's looking at me eye to eye right, I mean, 37 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, Pauli pigskin and Pauly pencil neck. Here there's 38 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: this big dude looking Cameron Thomas in the eye and 39 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: I introduced him. There's Kyle Van Eenbosch. I didn't have 40 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: to explain one iota of his great pass rushing career 41 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: because Cameron Thomas knew himself some KVB. They look in 42 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: his eyes. I mean, he was a big fan of 43 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: your especially when you're with Detroit. Yeah. I appreciate that 44 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: as a has been when players players remember, I mean, 45 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: I get no respect in my own household, So when 46 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: the players still remember that I actually put on a 47 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: uniform in a helmet, I appreciate that. Ameron Thomas, he 48 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: knew Danny, he definitely knew. I love that. That's great. 49 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: There is plenty to talk about with this Cardinals team, 50 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: even though, with the exception of the rookies, all the 51 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: veterans of left coaches are going on vacations. We learned 52 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: something last week at mandatory mini camp that, at least 53 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 1: for me, I wasn't so sure that was really on 54 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: my radar, and that has to do with starting center 55 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: Rodney Hudson. He was one of the veterans who was 56 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: not here at voluntary OTAs, which isn't a big shocker, 57 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: that's not very concerning. However, he was the only player 58 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: not here at mandatory minicamp last week, and when we 59 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: heard from head coach Cliff Kingsbury, he said that it 60 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: was unexcused, and we learned that Hudson and the team 61 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: were quote working through some things and that was the 62 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: extent that we got. So now that's a new level 63 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 1: of concern, Paul, And you know what, I am concerned, 64 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: we'll bet. I mean, anytime you go from a proven 65 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: center to potentially an unproven center that is a key 66 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: position as we have learned over the years, then yeah, 67 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: that has the potential to be a concern. Now what 68 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: exactly they working through? Is it feasible and realistic they're 69 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: going to get through it and reach a deal in 70 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: an agreement that I'll have him here in camp and 71 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: in time for that opener Week one against Kansas City. 72 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: Because if all of a sudden, cow, you're going with 73 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: Justin Pugh, sure, a decade in the league, an above 74 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: average offensive lineman, buddy's never played center before. If indeed 75 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: he's your guy, Yeah, and you know, while I have 76 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: no doubt the makeup of Justin Pugh and his intelligence 77 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: and his experience, you know, he could probably step in 78 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: and be fine. It's tough, especially late in your career, 79 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: to make a position change, play a completely different position. 80 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: And you know, we talked a lot early in the 81 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: season last year about the effect that Rodney Hudson had 82 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: on this offense and how different the offensive line as 83 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: a whole, in the offense as a whole looked with 84 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: him on the field and his contributions and and to 85 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: a player in that offensive line room. They talked about 86 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: his impact not just on game days, but in the 87 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: film room and on the practice field and what he 88 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: added to the group. It was. You know, it was 89 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: a huge cybe relief when the Cardinals signed him last year, 90 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: and with his experience and the level that he plays at, 91 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: you know it would be a big loss. And you know, 92 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:01,119 Speaker 1: so you're hoping that it's something that can get worked 93 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: through and whatever the issues are. Um, you know, the 94 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: two sides come together and it's it's not an issue 95 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: once training camp starts. Here's Kingsbury last week on Hudson's 96 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: absence from mini camp. Yeah, no update, We're working through 97 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 1: something with him. As soon as we know, we'll have 98 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: that update. Um not excused, I can't all right now. 99 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: And that got everyone's attention because that was unexpected. The 100 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: unexcused part of it the absence of Rodney Hudson. Other 101 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: guys had missed, like you mentioned Marcus Golden's, etc. But 102 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: they were there for the mandatory mini camp, and this 103 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: just did Danny. Your quarterback is five foot ten and 104 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: the quickest point from A to B is a straight line. 105 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: And so if all of a sudden you are not 106 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: stout up the middle through the A gap, guess what 107 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: That's gonna be unnerving. That's gonna be unsettling to Kyler 108 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: Murray more so than Big Ben Roethlisberger can stand in 109 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: the pocket at six foot six, two hundred and fifty 110 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: pounds with pass rushers dripping and hanging all over him, 111 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: and with Kyler Murray, you know that is an issue. 112 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: And so if you're telling all of a sudden that 113 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: the interioral line might be a question mark, look out. 114 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: We saw that last year when Hudson missed a couple 115 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: of games, whether from COVID or injury. Now that was 116 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: really Max Garcia stepping in, who signed with the Giants 117 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: in free agency. However, we saw a very clear difference 118 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: when it wasn't Hudson at center with Kyler Murray in 119 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: terms of the snaps, the communication, it was quite evident. 120 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: So now if you don't have Hudson, it's concerning at 121 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: this point. And when Justin Pugh was asked about potentially 122 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: moving from left guard to center last week when he 123 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: was talking or sorry not rather last week, but on 124 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: the Day Pash podcast, here's what he had to say. 125 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: I've never played center before in my career, but I've 126 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: seen guys play center late into their careers. Center mentally 127 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: is just so much tougher, and in our offense, the 128 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: center makes a lot of the calls. That's why we've 129 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: prioritized that position every offseason. We clearly value that position. 130 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: So for me, it's like, if I'm gonna keep teaking 131 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: pay cuts at gall maybe I should move to center 132 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: and see if I can do that. But I'll do 133 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,119 Speaker 1: whatever's best for the team. I've played guard, playing guards 134 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: like riding a bike for him, and you can put 135 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: me out there and I know what I gotta do. 136 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: So to get some reps at center and see how 137 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: that shakes out. It's interesting, it's fun, it makes you 138 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: break a mental sweat and I learn a little bit more. 139 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: It made me better if I want to be a 140 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: broadcaster because you gotta learn coverages and do all those things. 141 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: At the very least, it's going to help my broadcasting career. 142 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: Offensive line and Justin Peo on the Dave Pass Podcast, Kyle, 143 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: you know a thing or two about that you're going 144 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: from playing to the broadcast career. I know it's different 145 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: because you were on the opposite side of the ball 146 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: on defense. How realistic is it this point in Justin 147 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: Pugh's career to make a shift on the offensive line 148 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: enough to where he could be your starting center. It's realistic. 149 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: I can't recall. You know, typically tackles when they get 150 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: later on in their career, they can move inside to 151 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: guard and that can at times be interchangeable. Center is 152 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: kind of a whole different position. But again, I see 153 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: Justin Pugh potentially having the traits to be a really 154 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: good center. I mean, he's he's been in the trenches, 155 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: he's been inside, he's able to make the calls, he's 156 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: able to id things, he's seen everything, he's played against everything. 157 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: You know, the tough part, like we talked about, um, 158 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: you know, you you build your team in the off season, 159 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: You draft in the off season to win your division right, 160 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: and Rodney Hudson was brought in because our division has 161 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: some really good pass rushers, particularly into your pass rushers 162 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: with Aaron Donald, with the guys they have in San Francisco, 163 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: and knowing what we know with Kyler Um, the quickest 164 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 1: way to disrupt his timing, to throw him off is 165 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: get that quick inside pressure. So um, it's it's not 166 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: just you know, Justin Pu will probably could move inside, 167 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: could be a really good center. It's the domino effect 168 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: of you know, moving other pieces around and and how 169 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 1: that affects the depth throughout the season. It's interesting to 170 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 1: hear Justin Pu talk about them mental challenge. I think 171 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: we'd all agree Justine b is above average IQ right 172 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 1: football and otherwise. And to hear him talk about, even 173 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: though he has a decade in the league, how challenging 174 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: it is to play mentally that position for a guy 175 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: who seemingly has seen everything, it gives you pause. Because 176 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: we remember the anecdote from the Week one win, the 177 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: big win at Tennessee, where middle of the game, Ronnie 178 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: Hudson was the one who barked at Kyler to make 179 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: an adjustment. He saw something in that Titans defense and 180 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: they hit him big for a big play touchdown. Those 181 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: are the sort of adjustments that Rodney Hudson was critical 182 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: at making with his young quarterback right. And it's not 183 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: just identifying what you know. When you're a gardener tackle, 184 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: you have a guy that you know you have to block. 185 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: When you're the center and you're declaring how you're going 186 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: to block this give and play, you want to know, Okay, 187 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 1: how does the quarterback want it blocked? Which guy are 188 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: we going to leave the hot guy so the quarterback 189 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: can read off of him? Ken my tackle potentially reached 190 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: this wide five technique or do we need to change 191 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: our blocking scheme. You need to know the other four 192 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: guys around you and how they're going to pick guys up. 193 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: And even a tight end you know, well we need 194 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: chip help on this pass play. So you need to 195 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: know the entire scheme. You need to understand the ability 196 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: of the entire personnel in the offensive line and tight 197 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: ends and running backs. And it's it's you put a 198 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: lot more on your plate mentally when you are center 199 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Paul, you mentioned the mental aspect, but 200 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: we also have to talk about the physical aspect that 201 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: justin p has been working through. We learned when he 202 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: talked to the media last week he was on the 203 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 1: verge of retiring when the Cardinals, you know, had him 204 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: take a pay cut last season, and so because of that, 205 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: he wasn't eating as much and was dropping a lot 206 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: of weight because he didn't think he was going to 207 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: be playing. So now he's been putting on all this weight. 208 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: And this is what he had to say on the 209 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: Dave Pash podcast. What weight did you play at last year? 210 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: Like two eighty five to eighty and now we played 211 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 1: the Rams. The first time we played the Rams, I 212 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: was two hundred and seventy eight pounds in that Rams game. 213 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: So everyone's telling me I'm too skinny right now, and 214 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm four pounds off of the whitest I 215 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: played at last year, and put my film on. If 216 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: you think it's a problem, put my film on. And 217 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 1: the Cardinals obviously watched the film and they're still paying me. 218 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: So something. I gotta get the way back up. But 219 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 1: in our offense, we go so fast, and the way 220 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: I play it lends itself. I'm a very aggressive player now, 221 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: is opposed to setting back and kind of just being 222 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: like a garbage can you know, and he's a guy 223 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: that look, you know, he does it with his technique 224 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: and in his ability to move. There have been plenty 225 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: of center skyle over the years who have been sub 226 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: three hundred pounds and have been very very effective. So 227 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,599 Speaker 1: you know, look, if you're going, if you're telling me 228 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: right now, minus Roddy Hudson, if if he is not 229 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: gonna be there this year, and remember you gave up 230 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: a third round pick for Rodney Hudson just two years ago, 231 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: so it would be a loss in more ways than one. 232 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: I would say your best offensive line left to right 233 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 1: would be DJ Humphreys, Will Hernandez, who has played mainly 234 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: left guard in his career, Justin Pewitt center, Justin Murray 235 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 1: at right guard, who was your starter right guard a 236 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: year ago before he suffered the early season back injury, 237 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 1: and then Kelvin Beechaman right tackle. Assuming he holds off 238 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: Josh Jones and that challenge there, it's probably you're starting five, 239 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: but you don't have a lot of depth at that point. 240 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: Well that that leads me to my next question. Up 241 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 1: until about a week ago, I think a lot of 242 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: us would have agreed in terms of if you're going 243 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: to add another veteran presence before journey during training camp, 244 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 1: you'd probably be looking at cornerback, maybe interior defensive line. 245 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: Does center inter your offensive line now jump to the 246 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: top of that list, I certainly think it might. You know, 247 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 1: you can never have too much depth on the offensive line. 248 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: You know, it's it seems like a small thing, adding 249 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 1: that extra game. It is hard to field a capable 250 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: offensive line for sixteen games, let alone seventeen, and if 251 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: especially if you're a team that's looking to go further 252 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 1: in the playoffs this year, you need that quality depth. 253 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: So you know, you're probably not going to find a 254 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: starting center at this point in the offseason, but to 255 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: find a guy that can step in and not see 256 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: a drop off, not have to change the plays you're 257 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: running or how you run your offense because as you're 258 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: trying to cover up for him. I think it's important. 259 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: And you know, really both sides of the trenches. Like 260 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: you said, deptis is critical. And remember Ronnie Hudson missed 261 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: five games a year ago. He missed five games, Cardinals 262 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: won two and lost three, So they've been there and 263 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: done that. Sean Harlowe was a guy who had filled in, 264 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 1: but it's definitely viewed as more of a depth piece 265 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: and a backup than a potentially they had Billy Price 266 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: in earlier in the offseason, who's started many games over 267 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: many years of New York Giants, most recently. So to 268 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: your point, Danny, Yeah, that's got to be on the radar. 269 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: Steve Cott, justin Hugh having to eat those extra calories, Kyle, 270 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: what was your go to when you had to add 271 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 1: some extra calories to your diet while playing old school 272 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: peanut butter sandwich? I love it, get those calories. I 273 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: love it, Cardinals. Right to your point, presented by Sekie 274 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: Get your seat in a seat. We will be right 275 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: back after the short break. We're gonna talk about now 276 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: at quarterback Kyler Murray and his connection with his newest receiver, 277 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: who he's quite familiar with from playing at the University 278 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 1: of Oklahoma. R Key's Hollywood Brown stay with us fresh 279 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: shotted downs on the OEU twenty five yard line. Murat 280 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: play actions going date four Hollywood seventy five yards. So 281 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: I'll have a fastiest guy. I'm the pay our own. 282 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: Dave passed with the call with ESPN for Kyler Murray 283 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: and Hollywood Brown back in twenty eighteen OU at Iowa State. 284 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: Welcome back into the Cardinal's Red Seat report presented by 285 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: Sea Kee get your seat in a seat Kyle Van, 286 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: Debosh Pauk how VC. I'm Danny Serak. So not only 287 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: does Kyler Murray have chemistry with his newest receiver, Hollywood Brown, 288 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: Dave Pass has chemistry calling the games. He gone, he's 289 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: been there and done that. When he's seen Hollywood Brown, 290 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: just take off and use that sub four three speed. 291 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: Now that's a ring to Hollywood Brown. He didn't run 292 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: the forty officially at the Combine because he was injured, 293 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: but I asked him on draft night after the trade 294 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: went down, if you were healthy at the Combine. He said, 295 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: oh yes, sub four to three. In his opinion, he 296 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: would have made a run at John Ross's four two two, 297 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: the all time best forty in combine history. I don't 298 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: know about that, but he's a burner. Is there any 299 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: competition on this team or does Hollywood had that speed? 300 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: By long shot? It depends who you ask. If you 301 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: asked Rondel Moore, there's definitely a competition, So Rondel and 302 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: that's a great dynamic of this whole thing when you 303 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: look at it big picture, and we'll get into Kyler 304 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: in Hollywood. You know, number one thrown to number two. 305 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: But when you see number two in number four pushing 306 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: each other, Danny, you know you tell me Kyle. I mean, 307 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: if you got that sort of internal competition between two 308 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: players in the same position room, it's sort of like 309 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: last year. One of the big downsides of j. J. 310 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: Watt going down in Week seven was I firmly believe 311 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: that Chandler Jones and JJ Watt were pushing each other. 312 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: As two guys with more than one hundred career sacks, 313 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: they sort of looked at each other and said, you 314 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: know what, bro, I'm gonna come out here. I'm gonna 315 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: ball out. You match my game. And I see that, 316 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: I see that dynamic developing with a Hollywood Brown and 317 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: a Rondel Moore. Yeah, the healthy competition in the locker 318 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: room is huge. Um, you know, especially with this talented 319 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: wide receiver group. I mean, they're gonna be competing. There's 320 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: only one football and Kyler can put it anywhere, so, um, 321 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: it's going to be a matter of um, you know, 322 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: which guys are going up and making plays, Which guys 323 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: catch the slant route and are able to stick their 324 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: foot in the ground and you know, eat up yardage quickly. 325 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: And these are two guys that can definitely do that, 326 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: and two guys that you know, particularly early in the season, 327 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: are going to show their worth to this offense so 328 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: that when DeAndre Hopkins is back, they're still a huge 329 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: part of the game plan and their contributors and their 330 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: playmakers and their guys that are scoring touchdowns for this offense. 331 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about the chemistry that Hollywood automatically 332 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: has now that he's on the same team as Kyler Murray, 333 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: his quarterback in college. They've been training together in the 334 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: offseason in Alice. Realistically, how much of a difference can 335 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: Hollywood make Game one because of that chemistry? Now? I 336 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 1: know they have you know, OTAs and mini camp and 337 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 1: training camp to work on that chemistry as well, But 338 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: if we're looking at Game one Kansas City, Kyle, how 339 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 1: much are you expecting to see that chemistry just work 340 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: right off the bat, particularly if they're gonna they've already 341 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: worked a lot together throughout the summer, if they're going 342 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: to continue to work together throughout this month and July 343 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 1: tell training camp starts. Um, that's it's so valuable. It's 344 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: so valuable for quarterbacks to know his wide receivers inside 345 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: now where they're going to be, how they liked the balls. 346 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: And it's the same thing with Hollywood for him to, um, 347 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: you know, know which balls Kyler likes to throw. Um, 348 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: if Kyler's under pressure, where he wants them to show up. Um. 349 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 1: That chemistry between quarterback and receiver is so vital. And 350 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 1: I really appreciate that Hollywood said, Um, you know, I'm 351 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: gonna be wherever Kyler is. He wants to continue to 352 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: develop that even though it's probably already there. They already 353 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 1: know each other well, they have that confidence going all 354 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: the way back to college. They want to continue to 355 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: build that and work on it. And I think hopefully 356 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: that work will pay off and potentially it can show 357 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: up early in the season. Let's hear Brown's answer from 358 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 1: when he talked to the media last week about his 359 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 1: plans between now and training camp. Now, I'm going over 360 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: starting tomorrow. Yeah, starting tomorrow, get my body right, and 361 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 1: then you know, whoever Kyler is at, That's where I'm 362 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: gonna be. There's no doubt Danny in my opinion, this 363 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,719 Speaker 1: is plug and play. Unlike if you would have taken 364 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: a first round receiver. I'll give you an example right 365 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: now in Titans camp. Remember, the Cardinals are going to Nashville. 366 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: They're gonna be taken on the Titans in those joint practices, 367 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: and everyone figured, oh, Trey loon Burke's their first round pick, 368 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: would come in and immediately replace aj Brown. No, he's 369 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: been struggling. According to all the reports in the mini 370 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: camps and the OTAs. At best, he's going to be 371 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: their number three receiver at this point, just based on 372 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: the experience alone. So let's say you brought in an 373 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: uber talent at first round rookie receiver, Well, it doesn't 374 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: mean it's going to translate into game day production right away. 375 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: That's not the case with Hollywood Brown. It is plug 376 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 1: and play. A guy already has three years in the league, 377 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: has passed experience with Kyler Murray. I mean, we've heard 378 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: the anecdotes on how they're already out there and some 379 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: of these practices looking at each other hand signals, just 380 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: making eye contact, knowing the adjustments because they've already played together. 381 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: They've been there and done that, and the great thing 382 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: about Hollywood Brown. You mentioned, you know, not having the 383 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 1: first round pick. He was a first round pick, so 384 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,479 Speaker 1: you do still get that receiver coming off a thousand 385 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 1: yards season. Brown has more than just his speed and 386 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: Kingsbury touched on that last week. He can stretch the defense. 387 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: There's no doubt vertically, I mean, he can really roll. 388 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: He had a bunch of big plays last year. Could 389 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: have had more, I felt like, And that's an aspect. 390 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: You know, having aj Rondo him, guys that can can 391 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: stretch the field from all angles is going to be 392 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: good for us. Only do you now have your number 393 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 1: one receiver those first six games that DeAndre Hopkins has 394 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: been suspended, But you can't help but get excited at 395 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: the idea when d hop comes back to still have 396 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: Brown on the field and what that will mean for 397 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: this offense. Well, and think about it. Hollywood Brown as 398 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: a guy who was the center of attention from opposing defenses, 399 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: he was the one getting double covered. He was the 400 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 1: one who would have the safety shade to his side 401 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: of the field or get some of that bracket coverage. Well, 402 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: when d hop comes back to your point, guess what 403 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: all that attention is going towards number ten. And that 404 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: is something that Hollywood has talked about that he really 405 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: looks forward to getting that single coverage, to being viewed 406 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 1: as a second or third option behind DeAndre Hopkins, and 407 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 1: the Cardinals think that's where they can unlock a lot 408 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: of his production and potential, especially the fact they need 409 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: to spend his entire career in a Greg Roman offense 410 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: in Baltimore, where it was run first, second, and third, 411 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: and then the fourth option was a tight end, and 412 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: the fifth option was probably the tight end, and then 413 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: the sixth option was Lamar Jackson run the ball. So 414 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: at some point, AJ you know, he got this thing 415 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: where okay, here's here's Hollywood Brown, and he just wants 416 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: to get more targets and he wants more targets down field, 417 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: and that didn't happen often enough in Baltimore, right, And 418 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 1: I love his answer about what he's going to do 419 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: between now and training camp. He didn't talk about a 420 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: trip he has planned. He didn't talk about taking time 421 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: off getting his legs back. He's ready to get back 422 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: to work. And I remember the week after the trade, 423 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: on the radio stations here in Phoenix, they brought in 424 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: some people from Baltimore, and they asked, what kind of 425 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: player are we getting, trying to get as familiar and 426 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,959 Speaker 1: to a person, they all said, he's a hard worker. 427 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: He's one of the hardest workers in the locker room. 428 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: And you know that not only will serve this team, well, 429 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: this not only will serve him, well, it serves you know, 430 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 1: some of the younger receivers. It shows them what it takes, 431 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: how he got to where he's at and raises the 432 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: level of everybody, not just on game day, but on 433 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: the practice field as well. Kingsberry made a comment that 434 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: his nickname Hollywood because that's where he's from in Florida. 435 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: You might think he's just chilling, but no, he is 436 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: one of the hardest workers. Kyle, which wide receiver are 437 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: you looking to step up this year? Yeah? You know 438 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: everything I hear about Rondell Moore this offseason and how 439 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: he looks and his attitude and perhaps his level of 440 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: disappointment with his contributions to the offense last year. I'm 441 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: really looking for him to take that second years step. 442 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: You know, we all saw it in the preseason, we 443 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: saw it at times during the regular season, just the 444 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: flashes of his ability and how dynamic he can be 445 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: with the ball in his hands, and you know he's 446 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 1: going to get more opportunities as well. You know, he 447 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: might not get more targets, but he will have more 448 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 1: space to work with. You know, when you do have 449 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown and you have DeAndre Hopkins and you have 450 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 1: AJ Green on the field, he's gonna get the ball 451 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: in space and he's going to have more real estate 452 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: to work with. And I don't disagree with that Rondell 453 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 1: Moore at all. I would agree with that, but also 454 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: throw out AJ Green. I think has more upside than 455 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: what we saw last year. And just interviewing him twice 456 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: sis offseason, right here in this very studio, he'll look 457 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: you right in the eye and tell you I left 458 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 1: a lot of yards out in that field, and a 459 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: lot of it was my doing. He pointed the finger 460 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: at himself. And he's trying to improve his chemistry in 461 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 1: his communication and connection with Kyler Murray. And he started 462 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: off last season great, but like a lot of folks 463 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: on the offensive side, didn't end so well. And so 464 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be shocked if AJ Green, if he gets 465 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: enough targets, he could approach that thousand yard receiving campaign, 466 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 1: believe it or not, despite all the options for this quarterback, 467 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: and something aj Green has talked about this offseason personally 468 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 1: for him is wanting to strengthen that chemistry with Kyler Murray. Absolutely, 469 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: and we saw it. Unfortunately, you saw it on display 470 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 1: too often where he wasn't in the right spot at 471 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: the right time and there was just seemingly confusion between 472 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,719 Speaker 1: him and the quarterback. And so if you can remedy that, 473 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: and he said one of the big reasons he came 474 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: back was because he didn't want to have to learn 475 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 1: a new offense and another team, So he came back 476 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: and he already has that learning curve master. And we 477 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: saw him in the offseason. It looked really good. And 478 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 1: I think there's some Larry Fitzgerald to him and that 479 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: you know what it be single covered. He's big enough 480 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: throwing the ball anyway. He does a great job of 481 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: getting himself between the dB and the football. He may 482 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: not have that separation speed any longer, but he's so 483 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: savvy and he's so great with the body positioning, and 484 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: he's so long that he can he can just basically 485 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: box out a dB and still make the catch. Antoine Wesley. 486 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: Tweezy also has that length, and he took some steps 487 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: last year. I feel like Kyler Murray really helped Tweezy 488 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: elevate his game. Where can you see him improve? What 489 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: role do you see Tweezy playing Kyle. It's a good question. 490 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's gonna be tough. Like I said, 491 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: there's one football you know, his opportunity is going to 492 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: be when he gets on the field. He's got to 493 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: make the most of it. But we saw it. He's 494 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: not afraid to be that guy. He has the potential 495 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: to make a big play when you need him too. 496 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: So it's just going to come down to reps and 497 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 1: they're gonna be hard to come by because of how 498 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: deep that wide receiver room is, not only the wide 499 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 1: receivers but tight ends. I mean, Murray has plenty of options. 500 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: Zach Ertz, Trey McBride, Max Williams when he's healthy. The 501 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 1: little bit of optimism of not having DeAndre Hopkins for 502 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: six weeks says you feel good about what the Cardinals have, 503 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: not even looking in the backfield with James Conner or 504 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: Dary Williams. Yeah, think about it. If you have twelve 505 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: personnel out there, for example at James Conner and then 506 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,959 Speaker 1: you have Trey McBride and Zach Ertz Okay, are they 507 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: running it? Are they throwing it? And that's the point 508 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 1: you want to disguise the offense a little bit more. 509 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: As Trey McBride he shared with the media at one 510 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: of his rookie press conners, is and maybe settle a 511 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: little bit too much, a little bit too much and that. 512 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: But I think that is a big takeaway every team 513 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: self scouts themselves in the off season, and perhaps perhaps 514 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: things got a little too predictable in December on offense. 515 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 1: A lot of films out there at that point. Maybe 516 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 1: the Cardinals didn't evolve as much missing a Max Williams, 517 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: a dual tight end where you know, it wasn't as 518 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: easy to decipher are they going to run it or 519 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: throw it? So I think they're going to try and 520 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 1: get back to that, incorporate more of that into the 521 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: offense this year. And now there's no excuse. They have 522 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 1: this whole offseason to prepare an offense around not having 523 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, which should have a big difference. What kind 524 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: of immediate impact can a rookie like Tray McBride make 525 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: right off the bat well, I think it can be big. 526 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's got all the tools. He can 527 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: be a good inline blocker, he's got great hands, he 528 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 1: can get separation from linebackers. But to Paul's point, you know, 529 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: to be a good offense, it's not making it one 530 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: way in the offseason and sticking with it. It's not 531 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: a cutting paste from our offensive game plan from week 532 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 1: one to week two. It is the ability to change 533 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: based on the defense you're playing, based on the personnel 534 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 1: you're playing against, based on the personnel you have available. 535 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: So that's you know, that's why these offseason practices are 536 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: so vital. You want to see what can this guy bring, 537 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:50,239 Speaker 1: can we use him in a certain situation, and you know, 538 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: you want to be able to mix it up week 539 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 1: to week. Like PAULI was talking about, the last thing 540 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: you want to do in the NFL has become a 541 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: predictable offense is because you might have short term success, 542 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 1: but defensive coordinators will figure you out at some point 543 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: in the season and they will get your number, and 544 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: so you have to have that ability to adjust. And 545 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: you know, you know, looking back again at last season 546 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: when de Hopp went down, you could tell the level 547 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: of the offense was not the same and they needed 548 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: the ability to change the offense and evolve a little 549 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: bit on the fly during the season. And a big 550 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: reason this offense has evolved over the years quarterback Kyler 551 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: Murray and Justin Pugh talked about that on the Day 552 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: Patch podcast ball. He was saying, you know, I was 553 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: here four years ago when this team wasn't relevant, and 554 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: he has a good point, no doubt, show hands who 555 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: was I was definitely here and so yeah, let's listen 556 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: to what Justin Pue had to say because it is 557 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: a good reminder of what the Cardinals were before Kyler. 558 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: Kyler's in his third year in the NFL, and when 559 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 1: I was in New York, Eli Manning was not a 560 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: vocal leader. He was the first one in, he was 561 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: the last one out. He did everything right. Kyler comes in, 562 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: he does everything we asked him to do. I was 563 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: here four years ago and we didn't have Kyle Murray. 564 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 1: Remember that team. I've seen a lot of quarterbacks come 565 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: through the store. Justin in twenty one years, we had 566 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: the worst offense and I think NFL history. So when 567 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: Kyler got here, a light went back on. Irrelevance came 568 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,479 Speaker 1: back on. We started playing primetime games again. We've been 569 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, We've been relevant. Our fan base has 570 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: something to look forward to every year. There's something to 571 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: be said about that. Now, obviously there's you know, people 572 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 1: don't like the way you look. Look at Eli Manning, 573 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 1: Eli Manning face that's plastered everywhere. No matter what happens, 574 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 1: you're gonna have issues. Yes, does Kyler have a mobi 575 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: attitude on the sidelines from time to time? Yeah, so 576 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: do I, but they don't have a camera on me 577 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: when I'm sitting there angry after we have a turnover 578 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: we lose a game. It's a great podcast, The Day 579 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: Pash Podcast. You gotta check it out. Justin Pew is 580 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: a phenomenal interview. Two points there. Yes, twenty eighteen. The 581 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: offense wasn't just bad. It was historically bad. There's no 582 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: doubt about it. You can look up the numbers. They were. 583 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: They were like all time worse than a lot of 584 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: in modern history of NFL football. Now number two. I 585 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: didn't realize that the Eli Manning face is actually a thing. 586 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: If you google it up, it defines it as quote 587 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: a phenomenon in which New York Giants quarterback Eli Manning 588 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: has a bizarre or hilarious expression on his face captured 589 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,479 Speaker 1: by cameras during games and turned into a meme by 590 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,959 Speaker 1: the internet. That was twenty eighteen. And yes, if you go, 591 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: there have been a number of stories on Eli Manning 592 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: and his facial expressions, the pained, perplexed facial expressions captured 593 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: on camera. And so this is a great point. First off, 594 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: Kyle is not the only quarterback to be captured by 595 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: the court. And number two, if you had if you 596 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: had a camera and every single player on the Cardinal sideline, 597 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: they'd have their own expressions as well. Kyle. As we've 598 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: got a few weeks until training camp begins, what should 599 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: the players be working on on their own right now 600 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks. The biggest thing is staying 601 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: in shape. The seasons a grind. You don't want to 602 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: take the time off, show up to training camp and 603 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: not be ready. You've got to have your body prepared 604 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: because it is a grind, and you don't want to 605 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: be playing catch up when you show up. Episode thirty 606 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: two of the Dave Pash Podcast featuring Cardinal's offensive lineman 607 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: Justin Pugh is available now. To catch up on past episodes, 608 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: follow the Dave Pash Podcast via your preferred podcast provider. 609 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: The latest updates via Twitter at Pashpod. Arizona Cardinals season 610 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: tickets are available now. Visit asy Cardinals dot com Slash 611 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: season for more information. More Cardinals Red Sea Report coming 612 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: up right after this Garoppolo three steps, drop, steps up, kids, 613 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: hit and sack back at about the thirteen yard line 614 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: by Marcus Golden. When you need a play forty four? 615 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: Is there? Star Barket, get the Robinson running right, met 616 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: Bike Canard who got off a block and stop the play, 617 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: hands it off nowhere to run between the tackles Devon 618 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: Canard back to throw Flack go sack by Guardack. Oh 619 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: my goodness, what a move fight? And is Gardak the 620 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: barbarian flacko in the pocket gonna get hit and sacked? 621 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: Dennis Gardak, God, I'm a Dennis Gardak got up and 622 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: did a little barbarian dance around the fire. That's your 623 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: current Cardinals veteran pass rush Marcus Golden, Devon Knard, Dennis Gardeck. 624 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: Welcome back into the Cardinal's Red Sea Report, presented by Siki, 625 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: get your seat in a seat, Kyle Vanabosh and Pakal VC. 626 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: I'm Danny Sarak. How are we feeling about the confidence 627 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: of this veteran pass rush because as you go down 628 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: the list after those three, it's two rookies, Cameron Thomas, 629 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: my j Sanders, Paul. I'm gonna defer to the guy 630 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: who did it for a living and went to three 631 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: Pro Bowls. I'm gonna base my reaction based on the 632 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: reaction to Kyle Vanabosh. How are you feeling about the 633 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: Cardinals pass rush this year minus Chandler Jones. I'm encouraged. 634 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: There's definitely enough talent mixed with experience, and the veterans 635 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: that are filling in that spot have all done it 636 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: before in the past, right, They've all had success as 637 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: pass rushers. You know, I look back to when I 638 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: was in Tennessee, Um I played the right side and 639 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: we had two really good pass rushers that rotated on 640 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: the left side, and they were completely different types of 641 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: pass rushers. They had different body types that did different things. 642 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: You know, when I watch Chandler Jones, he can do anything. 643 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: I mean, he can speed rush, he can power rush, 644 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: he can change it up him. You know, I was 645 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: strictly a fastball pass rusher. I would just go, go, 646 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: go go. But with this group, you have different rushers 647 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: that do different things, and so you have the built 648 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: in changeup. When an offensive tackle tries to study the 649 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: defensive end or outside linebacker he's going to try to block, 650 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: he works on it all week and figures out a 651 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: way I'm going to block his best rush as well, 652 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: when you're preparing for two or three guys that might 653 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: be rotating him, it becomes nearly impossible because they do 654 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: different things and you don't have one way you can 655 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: block them to hang your hat on. So, UM, you know, 656 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: I'm excited to see how it shakes out. UM. I 657 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: love competition at any position. UM. I think it brings 658 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: out the best in everybody. And these guys, um that 659 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: are potentially going to step in at outside linebacker, UM, 660 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: you know, they're all competing for reps and so, UM 661 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: it's going to be exciting to see who who you know, 662 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: was on the field on third down. But they all 663 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: have that ability, and UM, you know, I can't, as 664 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: sitting here today, say who's going to be the premier 665 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: pass rusher opposite of Marcus golden Um. But I'm excited 666 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,959 Speaker 1: because they do all have that ability and potentially can 667 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: step in and be really effective. So Paul, your answer 668 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: is just copy and paste, you know what if and 669 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: we have talked about that. So I'm encouraged by his 670 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: encouragement and the fact that he cited the different body 671 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: types because whether it's Devon Kannard or the pitbull Dennis 672 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: gardak or the long lanky speed guy in rookie Maije 673 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: Sanders closer to a Chandler Jones, or maybe more of 674 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: a power guy a Cameron Thomas akin to a JJ 675 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: Watt and don't forget about JJ Watt in some penetration 676 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: and being part of that pass rush. Just on the 677 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: defensive front, Yes, the Cardinals have that going for him. 678 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: They can throw in a rotation of guys that are 679 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: going to all present a different look for that tackle. 680 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. Maybe that's one of the 681 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: reasons that Dennis Gardeck two years ago had that ridiculous 682 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 1: seven sacks and ninety three defensive snaps because he was 683 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: so radically different than a Chandler Jones after Chan went 684 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: down with a bicept injury. Think about it, he comes 685 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 1: in at about six foot and he's just a ball 686 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 1: of fury and he was very effective. Now, Dennis Gardeck 687 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: has told us in this very studio that he does 688 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: feel one hundred percent. He might have thought he was 689 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: one hundred percent coming back from the torn acl last year, 690 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 1: but he realized when he got to this offseason the workouts, 691 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: he is truly back. So what does that mean? And 692 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: Devon Knard's company said he would be right in the 693 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: eye a couple weeks ago and said, look, until I 694 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: got to Arizona, I was a starter my entire NFL career. Yes, 695 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 1: I can start four Vans. Joseph reminder. It was Marcus 696 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 1: Golden who the team with eleven sacks last season, the 697 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: third time in his career he had double digit sacks. 698 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 1: Rookie Cameron Thomas was on the Big Red Rage and 699 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: he touched on two parts of his game that he's 700 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 1: focusing on. When I think about me and myself as 701 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,240 Speaker 1: a person and a player, it's all starts of effort, 702 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: you know, whether that's on the field off the field. 703 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: But I really tried to pray myself with my effort 704 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: and this relentlessness, you know, so when I go out there, 705 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: every single player, I want to be just absolutely relentless. 706 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: You know, that's not something I just kind of woke 707 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 1: up one day and did. That's something that has just 708 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 1: been earned every single day, day and day out. Just 709 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 1: adding up to those moments something they come, you know, 710 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: they could be reality at this point, Kyle, That's really 711 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: all you can ask out of a rookie is that effort, 712 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: day in and day out. Right, I made a twelve 713 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 1: year career off of it. I mean I was above 714 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 1: average talent, but it was the effort and relentlessness that 715 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: kept me around and allowed me to have success. And 716 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 1: I'd love to hear that from a young player, and 717 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: you saw it from him already. I Mean, it's the 718 00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: it's sometimes you can't coach that, you can't teach that, 719 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: it's it's what's inside of you, and he has it 720 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 1: and it's going to serve him well. And I loved 721 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: you know, I listened to Pauli's interview with Cameron Thomas, 722 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,280 Speaker 1: and you know, when he first set foot in the building, 723 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 1: he saw JJ Watt getting out of the hot tub. 724 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 1: And I remember when I was a veteran, that was 725 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 1: not an accident that JJ Watt was there. I'm sure 726 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: he knew when the rookies were coming in he wanted 727 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 1: to be the first face they saw because I did 728 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 1: the same thing. Like you know, the coaches said, watch 729 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 1: this guy practice, like this guy. I want to be 730 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 1: the first person that they saw so that they understand 731 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: what it takes and how to have that level of success. 732 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: So and for a young guy like him that thinks 733 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 1: I've given everything I got, I play as hard as 734 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 1: I can. For him to see a guy like JJ 735 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: Watt putting in the extra time, being first in, last out, 736 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 1: He's got that role model right there for him, and 737 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: it's only going to help him. Cameron Thomas war ninety 738 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 1: nine in college. However, he was smart enough to know 739 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:02,720 Speaker 1: not to ask JJ Watt for that number. Vance Joseph 740 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 1: talked about the potential impact not only of Thomas, but 741 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: also fellow rookie outside linebacker my J. Sanders. You can't 742 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 1: replace Chandler Jones. I mean he's a Hall of Fame rusher, 743 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 1: you know, so you can't replace that production. But as 744 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: a group we can, you know. I think Monte is 745 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: going to be fine. Cam's a big, strong, physical rusher. 746 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: They're young, but they can rush, and you know, rushing 747 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 1: is obviously a learned behavior, but it start suitability, you know, 748 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: and they both have the abilities who rush. So hopefully 749 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: those guys can help us, and we can obviously scheme 750 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: some things up to help us also. But the end 751 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 1: of the day, you know, we got to rush four 752 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 1: and win one on one, so this guy should help 753 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 1: us win. Not having Chandler Jones is obviously a big 754 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 1: loss for this defense. Realistically, how close can they be 755 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: this year to where they were last year without him, 756 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: maybe using more of a rotation, Kyle, Yeah, I think 757 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: they can get there. Um. You know we saw two 758 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: years ago when Chandler Jones was injured in the production 759 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 1: that they had and um, you know you you heard 760 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 1: Vance Joseph say at times, you know, we're gonna need 761 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: to scheme up a rush and again, you know that's 762 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 1: what good coordinators do. They take the guys they have 763 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 1: to figure out their ability, they figure out how to 764 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 1: use them. Um. And I think Van's joseph Ism is 765 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 1: a mastermind a that at recognizing, identifying a skill, sets 766 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 1: up players, putting them in positions to have success on 767 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 1: the football field. Um, so you know there won't be 768 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,399 Speaker 1: in my opinion, there's not going to be a huge 769 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 1: drop off in sack numbers. There's not going to be 770 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: m you know, a drop off on getting off the 771 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 1: field on third downs. Um, they'll get it done, and 772 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 1: you know, it's just they've still got time to identify 773 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: what these players strengths are and how they can help 774 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 1: this defense. How risky is it, Kyle when you talk 775 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: about generating a pass rush via scheme by dialing it up, 776 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,760 Speaker 1: does that leave a defense vulnerable? Not necessarily. It depends 777 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: on who the quarterback is. Um. Some quarterbacks love it 778 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: when you blitz. They can identify the blitz before the 779 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 1: snap and they know where to go and they know 780 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 1: the quick answers. UM. Other quarterbacks don't. So it's kind 781 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: of a week to week type thing. Some weeks you'll 782 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: blitz a ton if it's a young quarterback. In other 783 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,840 Speaker 1: weeks you're gonna hold your guys back and try to 784 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,280 Speaker 1: get there with the four man rush. So Paula's outside 785 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,240 Speaker 1: linebacker is still an area that needs to be addressed 786 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,400 Speaker 1: with a veteran before training camp. Not necessarily. Center is 787 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,360 Speaker 1: more important right now if Ronie Anson doesn't come back corner, 788 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: But I'm sure it's on the radar. If there's a guy, 789 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: maybe an and Dominican sue, maybe a defensive tackle, a 790 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 1: former teammate at KVBS dot dot dot. Anything is possible. 791 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,760 Speaker 1: I'll have to that season opener against the Kansas City Chiefs. 792 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 1: You can get your single game tickets now. Visit easy 793 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 1: Cardinals dot com slash tickets for more information. More Cardinals 794 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 1: Red Sea report presented by Seki coming up soon. Trips 795 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 1: right single receiver, left shotgun snaff to McCoy, hands off 796 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,280 Speaker 1: Benjamin off the left side of the fifteenth. Hey trucks 797 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 1: a DV and walks into the end zone. Is first 798 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 1: touched out. Eno Benjamin just ran over former Cardinal Drake 799 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 1: kirk Patrick and maybe put this one out of reach 800 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: thirty to seven midway through the third. You know, Benjamin's 801 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 1: a little filthy man for the first one and two, 802 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,320 Speaker 1: first first suchdown that was awesome, incredible to see it. 803 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 1: So you see no hesitation, you know for the contact 804 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:16,879 Speaker 1: and you know he picked his legs that running out 805 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 1: of it. So a special back. James Connor talking about 806 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:25,280 Speaker 1: fellow running back Eno Benjamin for that amazing touchdown last season. 807 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 1: That was so great. You know what I would say 808 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 1: based on the sideline reaction that was top three last year, 809 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 1: all the reactions from all the plays, the way the 810 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 1: sideline went berserk. When you know, Benjamin just shack stopped 811 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 1: Draker Patrick. Guys just vaulted off that bench and went nuts. 812 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 1: Welcome back into the Cardinal's Red Sea Report presented by 813 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 1: SIKI get your seat in a seat alongside Kyle Van 814 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,359 Speaker 1: Debosh and Paul cow Vc. I'm Danny Siak. Suddenly this 815 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:56,840 Speaker 1: running back's room is a little full. James Connor was 816 00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: resigned in free agency. Chase Edmonds, of course went to Miami. 817 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,920 Speaker 1: The Cardinals have Eno Benjamin, they have Jonathan Ward who 818 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,760 Speaker 1: they really like on special teams. They drafted Kanta Ingram, 819 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 1: and they recently brought in Darry Williams who was recently 820 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,400 Speaker 1: with the Kansas City Chiefs. So now you've got a 821 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,760 Speaker 1: full room. However, it's been Eno Benjamin that's been receiving 822 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,879 Speaker 1: a lot of praise from the coaching staff and how 823 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 1: they it seems like they say that something's almost clicked, 824 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 1: like he's taken that next step this offseason. Paul, and 825 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,360 Speaker 1: you know what, it was so glaring, and it was 826 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 1: such a conscientious effort to mention Eno Benjamin sometimes out 827 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 1: of the blue that I wondered, you know, the conspiracy 828 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,760 Speaker 1: theorist in me and spending thirty years in a newsroom, 829 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,319 Speaker 1: I wanted and wait a minute, is something to foot here? 830 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 1: Are they trying to pump up the value? I mean 831 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,239 Speaker 1: Eno Benjamin? Because if they have won too many running backs, 832 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 1: will they try and get something in return from another team? 833 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 1: Perhaps in August if another team suffers injuries? What have 834 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 1: you but doing a whole investigating Danny. No, it's legit 835 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 1: and it is warranted. All this praise of Eno Benjamin, 836 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 1: he has looked that good. He has also resolved a 837 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 1: couple of deficiencies a maybe the focus, a bit of 838 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 1: immaturity in his early days as an Arizona Cardinal. He 839 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 1: has mastered the playbook. There's no he has the trust 840 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,280 Speaker 1: of the coaching staff when it comes to the playbook. Remember, 841 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 1: you don't want to be a liability, especially at that position. 842 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 1: And when it comes to pass pro and that was 843 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 1: the biggest question mark. Could he protect his quarterback if 844 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,839 Speaker 1: called upon, because you know what's at stake in your 845 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback. And now they can trust him in that 846 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 1: department as well, five running backs, you're you're not going 847 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 1: to carry five on your final roster. I think four 848 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,799 Speaker 1: is reasonable and maybe put one on the practice squad. Kyle, 849 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,799 Speaker 1: when you look at the different skill set that all 850 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 1: these running backs bring, where do you think that everybody 851 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,320 Speaker 1: could land in terms of that? It's a good question, 852 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a good problem to have you talk 853 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:53,320 Speaker 1: about different skill sets. Honestly, they all are physical, physical runners, 854 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 1: and you know, maybe there was a question about whether, 855 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 1: you know, Benjamin could become that type of runner, and 856 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 1: he showed that last year like he ran and just 857 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,399 Speaker 1: like James Connor ran, Angry Deary Williams is a big, 858 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,839 Speaker 1: physical running back and Keante Ingram is also a big 859 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 1: physical running back. They can all they all want to 860 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 1: hit the hole going north and south. Um. They all, 861 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,720 Speaker 1: I mean can fire up the offense and the entire 862 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 1: team by their physical style. And they all can catch 863 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,800 Speaker 1: the ball out of the backfield. So it's going to 864 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 1: be interesting to see how they differentiate themselves again, you know, 865 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 1: especially the way this offense has evolved under Cliff Kingsbury, 866 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 1: the running game has been huge. When this team was 867 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 1: its most successful last year, it had the running game 868 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:41,360 Speaker 1: going um, they were punishing teams, you know, running the 869 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:46,280 Speaker 1: ball hard. So you can't again have too much depth 870 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 1: at this, but it does seem like it's going to 871 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 1: be you know, any of these guys. It's not like 872 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 1: you have a lightning in a thunder package where you 873 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 1: have a scat back that you bring in for certain 874 00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 1: plays and you have a north south runner for other players. 875 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 1: They all have the ability to do both. They can 876 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,720 Speaker 1: all stick their foot in the ground and get vertical quickly. 877 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 1: So you know, it's as we sit here today, not 878 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 1: having the ability to watch much of practice, it's going 879 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,719 Speaker 1: to be interesting to see how these shakeout, and a 880 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,759 Speaker 1: lot of it's going to be decided in training camp. Paul, 881 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 1: you mentioned focus for Eno Benjamin, and I would imagine 882 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 1: bringing Daryl Williams more competition will probably up that as 883 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 1: well for him. I think about it. He started seven 884 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 1: out of seventeen games last year for Ksey and still 885 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,359 Speaker 1: had a thousand yards from scrimmage running and catching the ball. 886 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,319 Speaker 1: The other guys in the Chiefs offense, you ever heard 887 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,440 Speaker 1: of Tyree Hill or Travis Kelsey and then Daryl Williams, 888 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 1: so he is that big back. What will the Cardinals 889 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,839 Speaker 1: offense look like minus d hopplos first six games. I'm 890 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,799 Speaker 1: betting they're gonna be running the ball more than we 891 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,840 Speaker 1: probably anticipated. Countdown to the regular season Countdown to training 892 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 1: camp is officially on, so be sure to say locked 893 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 1: in on Easy Cardinals dot com as we have coverage 894 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 1: for that there. Special shout out to our senior broadcast 895 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 1: manager and producer Jim I'm a Jundro technical Director, Zach Larson. 896 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,239 Speaker 1: For Kyle Bannabosh and Paul Calvc. I'm Danny Serak. Thanks 897 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 1: so much for listening to the Cardinals Red Seat Report 898 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,840 Speaker 1: presented by Sea Keek right here on the Arizona Cardinals 899 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 1: Radio Network. 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