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Speaker 1: welcome to the Large Nerdron Collider Podcast, the podcast that's
Speaker 1: all about the geeky things happening in the world around
Speaker 1: us and how very excited we are about them. I
Speaker 1: am Ariel casting, and with me, as always is my
Speaker 1: super brilliant creative co host Jonathan Strickland. Guys, I really
Speaker 1: wish you could be on this video call. When we
Speaker 1: do this. Ariel really talks with her hands a lot,
Speaker 1: and it's just very entertaining to me and it never
Speaker 1: translates over to the podcast. Ariel, as always, I have
Speaker 1: a question for you. Okay, your question is and this
Speaker 1: will actually loop back into the episode, believe it or not.
Speaker 1: You're familiar with the Dungeons and the Dragons. Correct, I
Speaker 1: might be a little familiar with the dungeons and the dragons. Yes,
Speaker 1: if you had to put yourself into a class in
Speaker 1: the Dungeons and the Dragons, like any class you want.
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be one that you think fits
Speaker 1: you right now. You could be any class in the
Speaker 1: real world. Which class do you choose? I would be
Speaker 1: a barred barion, a bart so barred barbarian. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: Wait are you do? You only play heavy metal? Do
Speaker 1: you like? Do you like pose for Molly Hatchet album covers? Listen?
Speaker 1: We all know uh well, actually our new listeners may
Speaker 1: not know. I do dabble in the LARPing when it's
Speaker 1: not pandemic, and I usually play heavy hitters barbarian type people.
Speaker 1: I just like it. It's just it's fun to not
Speaker 1: have to worry about learning too much stuff, fun to
Speaker 1: whack people with a giant foam stick. Yes, but then
Speaker 1: I also I also play music in in you know,
Speaker 1: my real life, and then some of my bandmates also
Speaker 1: play with me, so then I end up playing music.
Speaker 1: And so bard Baryon is not an actual d and
Speaker 1: d uh class for for anybody who's not familiar, But
Speaker 1: I'm really working to make it one so you get
Speaker 1: multi class. Yeah, what about you, I'm trying to remember
Speaker 1: the rules for D and D and whether Bard is
Speaker 1: allowable as a multi class character. Um, well, I guess
Speaker 1: it to ends on the iterations, right. Yeah. You also,
Speaker 1: dear listeners, have to remember that when I started playing
Speaker 1: Dudgeons and Dragons, it was after the basic dn D
Speaker 1: set that had been released, but it was when Advanced
Speaker 1: Dungeons and Dragons was a thing before even the second edition.
Speaker 1: So I've had a lot of different experiences with dn
Speaker 1: D over the many generations. I would say that out
Speaker 1: of all the different classes that have existed throughout the
Speaker 1: various iterations of dn D, I would go with Swashbuckler,
Speaker 1: which I recall from Advanced Douges and Dragons second edition.
Speaker 1: It was in the Fighters Manual where you got like
Speaker 1: a supplemental manual to the game, and it had a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of different subclasses of fighters and swashbucklers essentially
Speaker 1: pirate or musketeer type character. But the other option I
Speaker 1: would have gone with, if I go with just the
Speaker 1: basic ones, is also barred, not because I'm particularly musical,
Speaker 1: but because I'm irritating and rarely helpful. I don't think
Speaker 1: that about you at all. You're very helpful, and I
Speaker 1: enjoy being around. That's why you and I are in
Speaker 1: a party together and you want to hang out with me.
Speaker 1: So I'm glad we have that question settled. And today
Speaker 1: we're going to be talking a lot about movies and
Speaker 1: what has been going on throughout the pandemic and how
Speaker 1: it's affected movies. Just as we talked about television previously,
Speaker 1: now we're talking about film. And this is also a
Speaker 1: moment for us to acknowledge that are our wonderful producer, Tori.
Speaker 1: She has a background in film, she went to film school,
Speaker 1: so I'm sure this is one of those things that
Speaker 1: she feels particularly passionate about as we are looking at
Speaker 1: how the world of film is changing as a result
Speaker 1: of the the health crisis. But we're gonna start off
Speaker 1: by talking about specific movies and what's been going on
Speaker 1: with them. Some of them have have seen their released,
Speaker 1: its shuffle around a bit, and and specifically giggy movies
Speaker 1: that were excited about. So you know, we're not always
Speaker 1: going to talk about TV and movies, but that's what
Speaker 1: we're doing today, all right, So I think we should
Speaker 1: start with the Batman, the Batman, not just the Batman,
Speaker 1: the Batman. The Batman with Robert Pattinson, um because they
Speaker 1: went back to filming during during the pandemic, and then
Speaker 1: they immediately shut down because Robert Pattinson had COVID. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this was one of those examples we were talking about
Speaker 1: in that last episode about how depending upon who gets
Speaker 1: affected and and and how often they're around other people. Uh,
Speaker 1: a COVID case can shut down a production for a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Now, in this case, you're talking about
Speaker 1: the lead actor, So obviously that's going to affect things.
Speaker 1: But if it if it was like a day player,
Speaker 1: like a one line person, they might just get replaced,
Speaker 1: right if if and if they were able to determine,
Speaker 1: oh well, that person wasn't around enough people for that
Speaker 1: to be a potential problem. So it was originally going
Speaker 1: to come out on October. In October, and now currently
Speaker 1: they've pushed that back to March of twenty two, and
Speaker 1: uh Dune, which was going to come out a little earlier,
Speaker 1: is now moving into the Batman's original time launch window.
Speaker 1: And June was supposed to come out this year is
Speaker 1: supposed to be a Christmas present. The spice must flow,
Speaker 1: but it must flow a little later than when we
Speaker 1: intended Yeah, that's that's a that's a bummer. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's part of this is obviously because of delays in production.
Speaker 1: Part of it is due to just making the strategy
Speaker 1: of when your tent pole films are going to launch,
Speaker 1: and and it's also a lot of hedging your bets
Speaker 1: and wondering like when are you going to be able
Speaker 1: to make the biggest impact, When will will theaters be
Speaker 1: open by then? We'll talk a lot more about theaters
Speaker 1: later in this episode. Yeah, and you know that's not
Speaker 1: the only one. Matrix is also being pushed back. Matrix
Speaker 1: is being moved up. This one's actually they finished that
Speaker 1: one earlier and so it's been moved up to December one,
Speaker 1: but originally it was supposed to come out in the
Speaker 1: spring of two. I'm excited about Matrix four, although I
Speaker 1: never saw the third Matrix movie. I so just my
Speaker 1: very personal opinion, I there are only a few movies
Speaker 1: that once they get to the third I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is still super awesome, and Matrix is one of
Speaker 1: those that just didn't hit that benchmark for me. Well,
Speaker 1: Matrix two is why I didn't see Matrix three. Okay,
Speaker 1: Like I loved the first film, I thought it was
Speaker 1: really interesting, really innovative. It was the second DVD I
Speaker 1: ever bought, which I think is I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people Matrix is the first. Yeah. Uh, the first
Speaker 1: first DVD I ever bought was South Park, Bigger, Longer,
Speaker 1: and uncut. So I wouldn't. I wouldn't. That's That's a
Speaker 1: fantastic musical. But Matrix, for I am still kind of
Speaker 1: excited about it because I want to see what the
Speaker 1: new vision is for that world. I didn't like the
Speaker 1: way Matrix to unfolded. I felt like a lot of
Speaker 1: the things I thought I understood about the first film
Speaker 1: I was totally off base about, and instead of being
Speaker 1: excited by that, I was discouraged, which is why I
Speaker 1: never bothered to see the third one, because I was
Speaker 1: just like, this feels like it took a left turn
Speaker 1: and I really wanted to see what was straight ahead.
Speaker 1: So I got I was like, I'm out, um, but
Speaker 1: I do. I do wanna see how that goes. And
Speaker 1: of course, I mean, anytime you can build out the
Speaker 1: mythology of a science fiction world, I think that can
Speaker 1: be exciting. Yeah, if if you just want to explore
Speaker 1: more of the Matrix world, have you watched The Animatrix.
Speaker 1: I have not, and that was one of those that
Speaker 1: I really wanted to check out because I kept hearing
Speaker 1: that at least half of the entries in The Animatrix
Speaker 1: were really good and the other half were you know,
Speaker 1: different people had different reactions to Yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 1: would agree, but it also helps you kind of explore
Speaker 1: that world more. You expect it to be a left
Speaker 1: turn sort of or at least a bunny trail. But
Speaker 1: back to Batman is not the The Batman, sorry, is
Speaker 1: not the only superhero movie being pushed back. Uh, the
Speaker 1: Flash is also being pushed back. Shazam two is being
Speaker 1: pushed back, and then Black Adam sadly not being pushed back.
Speaker 1: It was taken off, which I just want to say, like,
Speaker 1: I enjoy Shazam, but I was really watching it. Let's
Speaker 1: be honest here to myself, true to myself. For Black
Speaker 1: Adam to come in, because that's Dwayne Johnson, Dwayne the
Speaker 1: Rock Johnson, what the Rock who I was very excited
Speaker 1: to see his Black Adam. So that's disappointing. I hope
Speaker 1: they bring it back in a future time. I mean, obviously,
Speaker 1: as as we were just alluding to the pandemic has
Speaker 1: made it much more complicated for these these companies that
Speaker 1: have had extensive, like launch plans that are laid out
Speaker 1: to be like a decade out. Disney has done this
Speaker 1: with the Marvel Films, not to mention some other ones
Speaker 1: we'll talk about in just a second, but uh, you know,
Speaker 1: clearly something like this throws a wrench into all of that,
Speaker 1: because again, productions are more complicated and you're not really
Speaker 1: sure if you're even gonna have theaters to release two
Speaker 1: by the end of it. Yeah. The weird one for
Speaker 1: me though, because Black Adam is not the only movie
Speaker 1: from that studio slate that has been dropped all together.
Speaker 1: They've also dropped the Minecraft movie. To me, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: thinking that's when it's perfect to making Quarantine, because it's
Speaker 1: all I would imagine. It would all be C g
Speaker 1: I and voice actors. I haven't heard much about the
Speaker 1: Minecraft movie. You have not, but I was really hoping
Speaker 1: it was going to be a live action film starring
Speaker 1: Patton Oswald with a pick ax. I would, yeah, I
Speaker 1: would watch that. I would watch that very very hard.
Speaker 1: And I just didn't even know there was a Minecraft
Speaker 1: movie in production until I read that so we read
Speaker 1: an article in Variety that had all this information in
Speaker 1: it about the different films that have been affected by
Speaker 1: the pandemic, and then we got the thing that leads
Speaker 1: into where I asked the question at the beginning of
Speaker 1: the episode something I'm also excited to see what people
Speaker 1: do with. So, yeah, this is one. I didn't realize
Speaker 1: that there was a Dungeons and Dragons movie currently in
Speaker 1: development until I was doing research on films that had
Speaker 1: been impacted by the lockdown and I saw that one
Speaker 1: of them that was pushed back was Dungeons and Dragons,
Speaker 1: and I thought, really, they're going to try and make
Speaker 1: another one of those. Well, I mean, they've been talking
Speaker 1: about it forever. So for me, it's not that I
Speaker 1: didn't know that there was a Dungeons and Dragons movie
Speaker 1: and development, it's that I didn't know one had actually
Speaker 1: taken purchase. I mean we even heard Joe Meganello. I
Speaker 1: think I said that right, Uh wanted to make a
Speaker 1: D and D movie. He's a big D and D fan.
Speaker 1: We know that Vin Diesel is a big D and
Speaker 1: D fans, so it was only a matter of time.
Speaker 1: It's just the past ones have not been exception of
Speaker 1: the cartoon have not been the best so most fun
Speaker 1: to watch. One thing I think is interesting is that
Speaker 1: a lot of the people who you would associate with
Speaker 1: actually doing a D and D movie, as in these
Speaker 1: are people who are either associated with with loving the
Speaker 1: game or loving like video games, things like like Henry
Speaker 1: cavill and stuff, people like that. They're all these huge
Speaker 1: beefy dudes, which is which is funny too, Like, like
Speaker 1: I think of the gut people I played DND with,
Speaker 1: we none of us were huge beefy dudes. Um so no,
Speaker 1: but you might have pretended that you were. But these
Speaker 1: guys are gonna have to pretend. Like I would want
Speaker 1: a D n D movie where half the film is
Speaker 1: taking place in the real world and you see the
Speaker 1: real people who are playing the characters. So I mean,
Speaker 1: but if you've got a big beefy dude playing a character,
Speaker 1: you want to see the people playing the game playing
Speaker 1: the characters. I see what you're saying. Didn't they do
Speaker 1: that in the last DND movie that didn't go. Honestly
Speaker 1: don't know. I stopped. I it didn't have Richard O'Brien
Speaker 1: in it, so I was out, all right. I couldn't
Speaker 1: do that fair enough. So we don't know much about
Speaker 1: this D and D movie other than the fact that
Speaker 1: it was supposed to release in one and is now
Speaker 1: pushed to May two. Try saying that five times past,
Speaker 1: because it's not that hard. But there are lots of
Speaker 1: speculations of people that they've been pursuing to be in it.
Speaker 1: Will Smith, Josh Brolin, Chris Pratt, Fan diesel, Vin Diesel Yeah,
Speaker 1: Matthew McConnaughey, Jamie Foxx, Joel Ledgerton, Dave Battista, Jeremy Renner,
Speaker 1: Johnny Depp. A lot of them have worked in fantasy
Speaker 1: and sci fi genres, so it's not that they're unusual too,
Speaker 1: they're unfamiliar to those genres. But Luper did make an
Speaker 1: assumption or post a question, and I wonder what you
Speaker 1: think about it, Jonathan. They said, are they looking at
Speaker 1: all these people to pare them down to one leading man?
Speaker 1: Or are they looking at all of these people to
Speaker 1: be leading men? Because each is going to play a
Speaker 1: different character type and a party is usually made up
Speaker 1: of leading men, which I think would be fantastic. I'd
Speaker 1: love to see each of them take their own style
Speaker 1: of acting and preferred genre and put it into their
Speaker 1: D and D party character. I mean, I imagine it's
Speaker 1: going to be it's going to be an ensemble piece.
Speaker 1: If it's not an ensemble piece, then it's not really
Speaker 1: Dungeons and Dragons, right, So I mean, like it might
Speaker 1: as well be any fantasy film if you have it
Speaker 1: where there's one principal lead and then a bunch of
Speaker 1: supporting characters, you could you don't have to have the
Speaker 1: D and D. You know. Uh, I p attached to
Speaker 1: it at all because really, when I think of Duchess
Speaker 1: and Dragons, I think of that that party experience, And honestly,
Speaker 1: I would like to see an all women cast, uh,
Speaker 1: and just bring all the actresses from Bridesmaids in and
Speaker 1: do a D and D movie. Okay, an aerial too,
Speaker 1: an Ariel. I mean, I have no doubt it'll be
Speaker 1: an ensemble cast. It's just whether it's an ensemble of
Speaker 1: like a big name and a bunch of lesser known actors,
Speaker 1: or an ensemble of all Yeah, I think it'll probably be.
Speaker 1: I think they're probably gonna aim. I mean a lot
Speaker 1: of the producers that are attached to this, or people
Speaker 1: who have worked on movies like Guardians of the Galaxy.
Speaker 1: So you look at that and you're like, Okay, well
Speaker 1: you've worked with some ensembles that have some some notable
Speaker 1: people in them. I mean, I think could probably expect
Speaker 1: something along the same lines. And obviously, anytime you're trying
Speaker 1: something like that, the hope is that you can set
Speaker 1: things up for another franchise, right, So another like how
Speaker 1: long are you going to go to the well of Marvel,
Speaker 1: d C and Star Wars. You're probably gonna want a
Speaker 1: couple of other things to dip into occasionally as well,
Speaker 1: and I think Dudgeons and Dragons is one of those things. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Another one of those things is Ghosts Ghostbusters Afterlife. So
Speaker 1: this was supposed to come out, uh in you know,
Speaker 1: early at least, but it's had its own delays. It
Speaker 1: recently wrapped shooting as in not like I think it
Speaker 1: was in November of this year that they finally wrapped. Obviously,
Speaker 1: their whole production was delayed significantly through the pandemic. I mean,
Speaker 1: I remember seeing the teaser trailers for Ghostbusters Afterlife like
Speaker 1: almost a year ago, and they hadn't even they still
Speaker 1: had a year to go before they wrapped shooting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and This is a hard one because they do have
Speaker 1: kid actors and and kid actors grow up real fast.
Speaker 1: And this one, this one is supposed to come out June,
Speaker 1: and this one's from Paramount. We're going to talk a
Speaker 1: little bit more about some strategies that movie studios have
Speaker 1: when it comes to releasing films in the pandemic. What
Speaker 1: Paramount has been essentially doing is, rather than holding onto
Speaker 1: its movies, selling off those films to various streaming services. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Something else I am sure I will enjoy when it
Speaker 1: eventually comes out is The Wicked movie. I've never actually
Speaker 1: seen the stage play, now, you know. And I lived
Speaker 1: with a roommate who adored it, so I've heard all
Speaker 1: of the music. I just haven't never defied gravity on
Speaker 1: multiple occasions, defied gravity and and defied societal expectations for myself.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's the your go to. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: this was this was originally supposed to come out um
Speaker 1: next December, so the December, but that obviously hasn't happened.
Speaker 1: I mean, as far as I know, they haven't even
Speaker 1: begun production on this. The director who was attached to
Speaker 1: the project had to exit, Stephen Daldry, because he had
Speaker 1: scheduling conflicts because the delays had pushed this so far back.
Speaker 1: So as far as I know, it's still planned. Uh,
Speaker 1: there's I haven't heard of a new director being attached
Speaker 1: to it, largely because again, it's hard to plan things
Speaker 1: when you're in the middle of a pandemic. But this
Speaker 1: is a This is a bummer for people who who
Speaker 1: like movie musicals. Yeah, yeah, you know, And I do
Speaker 1: appreciate Daldry for stepping down. You know, it wasn't out
Speaker 1: of malice. It was simply he couldn't turn it around
Speaker 1: in the time they wanted. And I appreciate him saying,
Speaker 1: you might find find somebody who can give you a
Speaker 1: better product for the time frame you he he said
Speaker 1: that it was an amicable parting. It was just you know,
Speaker 1: it's just business. Also just business. I'm kind of excited
Speaker 1: because Jurassic to Park Dominion, it feels like it's taking
Speaker 1: all of the previous Jurassic parks and mashing it all
Speaker 1: up together, which it is, uh, and I'm very excited
Speaker 1: about it. Uh to see all of those actors altogether,
Speaker 1: the Jurassic World and the Jurassic Park, I'm I'm curious
Speaker 1: to see if once again we will have a plot
Speaker 1: that's so stupid about making dinosaurs as weapons, as if
Speaker 1: that would somehow be more effective than I don't know weapons. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's it's Jurassic Park dominion. They're all going to be
Speaker 1: wearing pith helmets, pith helmets and top hats and monocles
Speaker 1: the dinosaurs, uh, and and playing parliament. I'm fine with that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, this movie was an enormous effort. It took
Speaker 1: a year and a half from pre production to rapping,
Speaker 1: and that's with it being the first movie to come
Speaker 1: back to production after every go that that was the
Speaker 1: very first film, major film to go back into production
Speaker 1: after the initial lockdown. According to the producers, they administered
Speaker 1: approximately forty thousand COVID tests throughout the length of the
Speaker 1: production process. Once they came back online. Apparently, the the
Speaker 1: COVID testing added somewhere around eight million dollars to the
Speaker 1: film's budget um, just just to make sure that they
Speaker 1: were doing things in a way that wasn't going to
Speaker 1: put anyone at risk. They also had hand washing stations
Speaker 1: and temperature stations and doctors on set. They worked with
Speaker 1: a private health company to make sure that their set
Speaker 1: was as safe as they could possibly make it, which
Speaker 1: is fantastic. And then they all lived in the bubble,
Speaker 1: which mean they didn't really get to see their family.
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes when you're shooting a film, if you've
Speaker 1: if you've got a period of time where you're not working,
Speaker 1: you can go visit your family for a little bit
Speaker 1: if they're not nearby. These people couldn't do that. They
Speaker 1: all had to be quarantined together. But in reading the
Speaker 1: article from Deadline, it sounds like that made them a
Speaker 1: lot closer and so I'm really interested to see how
Speaker 1: that affects the actor's performances in this movie, because you've
Speaker 1: got that extra level of vulnerability when you're living with
Speaker 1: somebody day in day out. For that, it made me
Speaker 1: think of the stories about the filming process for What
Speaker 1: Hot American Summer, because everyone actually stayed at that summer camp,
Speaker 1: and so through the process of staying there, they all
Speaker 1: got like ridiculous and silly, and it kind of carried
Speaker 1: over into the movie, which obviously is ridiculous and silly.
Speaker 1: So I except for the week that they rented it
Speaker 1: out to the bar Mitzia, So I think I think
Speaker 1: it's like one of those sort of things where it
Speaker 1: is kind of like you almost think of it as
Speaker 1: a sleepaway camp kind of experience, not the movie sleepaway
Speaker 1: Camp that's as a slasher film. But you know different,
Speaker 1: don't know what I'm saying. Well, when we come back,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a little bit more discussion about what
Speaker 1: is the future for LM. Not just as we go
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Speaker 1: All right, so we're back and a couple of our
Speaker 1: news articles. We actually moved into this conversation topic because
Speaker 1: it's important to the future of movie theaters. So Universal
Speaker 1: Pictures has shortened the amount of time that a blockbuster movie,
Speaker 1: a first round movie stays in the theater before people
Speaker 1: can rent it online by it such like that to
Speaker 1: to try to make up for these profits that are
Speaker 1: being missed, and uh, it hit theater is pretty hard.
Speaker 1: It did the original. Generally, the accepted approach is that
Speaker 1: a film is in theaters for like three months before
Speaker 1: you can start to offer it up on things like
Speaker 1: Blu ray or streaming. But Universal shortens that to seventeen days,
Speaker 1: so half a month essentially. M Yeah. And then like
Speaker 1: very recent news, as in the week that we're recording this,
Speaker 1: Warner Brothers announced that they're going to be just releasing
Speaker 1: a whole year worth of their movies to age Max directly, yeah,
Speaker 1: without along with the movie theater, without any without any
Speaker 1: extra charge for HBO Max. This is to drive more
Speaker 1: people to subscribe to HBO Max. And uh, the idea
Speaker 1: there is that films that will go up in theaters
Speaker 1: will also be available that day on HBO Max and
Speaker 1: they will be available for I think thirty one days.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah. So that that way, if you are, if
Speaker 1: you are an HBO Max subscriber, then the seventeen movies
Speaker 1: that Warner has on a slate for will all be available.
Speaker 1: And both of these stories are making movie theater is
Speaker 1: very nervous. Understandably, they are not. They are fans of
Speaker 1: the idea of getting rid of that exclusivity, that exclusivity
Speaker 1: of of only being able to see a movie in
Speaker 1: a movie theater is the lifeblood for for theaters, and
Speaker 1: they've been having a real hard time in a lot
Speaker 1: of movie theaters have been looking at shutting down. Uh.
Speaker 1: In fact, sin a World which owns regal cinemas shut
Speaker 1: down all five six of its theaters for at least
Speaker 1: until March of next year, because yeah, there's enough movies
Speaker 1: coming out to keep them going. The I think the
Speaker 1: nail in the coffin was when the new James Bond
Speaker 1: film got pushed back. They said, there's, yeah, there's just
Speaker 1: not enough movies to bring audiences in for us to
Speaker 1: break even. They like, even even if they have all
Speaker 1: full Like a lot of theaters are working at capacity
Speaker 1: right now, so even if they have, they sell out
Speaker 1: that entire capacity. If there's only one movie, they aren't
Speaker 1: gonna be able to pay their employees, aren't canna be
Speaker 1: able to buy the popcorn, you have the concessions and everything.
Speaker 1: We've known for a long time that the margins of
Speaker 1: running the theater business are really thin. Like theaters do
Speaker 1: not make very much money off of ticket sales. They
Speaker 1: make their money elsewhere, like largely through concessions and also
Speaker 1: renting out their space occasionally. And uh, and we're starting
Speaker 1: obviously both of those take a huge head right. So
Speaker 1: if you're if you're selling fewer tickets, fewer people are
Speaker 1: going to be buying food. Um, and if you are
Speaker 1: in the middle of a pandemic, you're not gonna get
Speaker 1: a lot of people saying, oh, you know what I
Speaker 1: want to do rent out a movie theater and fill
Speaker 1: it with two other people. So it's it's a really
Speaker 1: tough time. And there are a lot of articles out
Speaker 1: there asking about do movie theaters even have a future?
Speaker 1: Are they going to be able to survive this when
Speaker 1: they were already struggling before the pandemic and now not
Speaker 1: only has the pandemic shut them down in the meantime,
Speaker 1: but setting an expectation among consumers about what seeing a
Speaker 1: film means these days, I mean it is. It's really
Speaker 1: interesting to me because so much of the recouping the
Speaker 1: cost of making the movie comes from that initial box
Speaker 1: office weekend, you know. Uh, and if you're getting it
Speaker 1: for free once streaming, I don't know how they're going
Speaker 1: to recoup that. I don't have insight into that. But
Speaker 1: also as a consumer, when when you look at for instance,
Speaker 1: King Kong versus Godzilla or Dune or something big like that,
Speaker 1: which are a couple of the movies coming to HBO Max,
Speaker 1: I want to see those on the big screen. There's
Speaker 1: so much work and so much detail put into the
Speaker 1: special effects, into the imagery, into the landscaping, and so
Speaker 1: much soundscaping, so much artistry put into the entire package
Speaker 1: that I you know, I have a pretty good media
Speaker 1: set up at my house, but it still does not
Speaker 1: compare in any way to seeing it on the big screen,
Speaker 1: especially if you go opening night and you've got all
Speaker 1: the people around you, and I realized, we can't do
Speaker 1: that in a pandemic right now. But you know, you've
Speaker 1: got all the people around you, and you all gasp
Speaker 1: at the same moments, and you all laugh often share
Speaker 1: at the same moments. There is nothing to replace that feeling. Um.
Speaker 1: So Netflix watch parties do not even come close. I
Speaker 1: I fully agree with you, Ariel. I think like I'm
Speaker 1: a curmudgeon, I'm a grouchy dude, and I'm I'm the
Speaker 1: grouchy dude who when I go to the theater, I
Speaker 1: hate it when someone is talking. I hate seeing that
Speaker 1: glow of someone's getting on their phone. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: the get off my lawn kind of guy. But I
Speaker 1: love it when a room full of people are immersed
Speaker 1: in the story and when something exciting happens, there is
Speaker 1: a reaction in the audience that is it's a it's
Speaker 1: akin to the feeling you get at live theater right
Speaker 1: where people are having. It's it's a relationship between what's
Speaker 1: going on in front of you and the audience. Now
Speaker 1: in a film, it's weird because of course the film
Speaker 1: can't react to what the way the audience is reacting,
Speaker 1: but it is one of those things that's really special.
Speaker 1: That communal feeling is something like some of my favorite
Speaker 1: memories that involved movies aren't about the film, but rather
Speaker 1: the experience of seeing the film in a full theater. Um.
Speaker 1: I think of Star Trek for the Voyage Home, which
Speaker 1: was the Goofy Whales movie. You know, they go back
Speaker 1: into the eighties and they rescue some whales in that
Speaker 1: movie and Star Trek. I saw that when it first
Speaker 1: came out in a room full of Star Trek geeks,
Speaker 1: and the reactions because that that movie was so lighthearted
Speaker 1: and funny compared to the other Star Trek movies. It
Speaker 1: was such a huge surprise and people were so into
Speaker 1: it that it was it elevated the movie for me.
Speaker 1: So it is a really scary thing to think that
Speaker 1: that's an experience we may not be able to have
Speaker 1: for quite some time, because even with things like rollouts
Speaker 1: for vaccines, even with continued pressure to make sure that
Speaker 1: people are are behaving response able, you know, there's just
Speaker 1: no way to I can't see a way for movie
Speaker 1: theaters to exist the way they used to moving forward.
Speaker 1: I think they're going to have to change, which, in turn,
Speaker 1: as you were pointing out, means the whole film industry
Speaker 1: has to change. Because if you can't do these ridiculously
Speaker 1: enormous budget films and expect to recoup those costs, that's
Speaker 1: gonna have to change the way movies are made. You're
Speaker 1: gonna see a lot fewer of those big tent pole
Speaker 1: blockbusters because there's just no way to make your money back.
Speaker 1: I mean. But on the other hand, if you think
Speaker 1: about it. For instance, quite a few of our more
Speaker 1: independent movie theaters, in a way to in Atlanta, in
Speaker 1: a way to make ends meet, have been converting to
Speaker 1: drive ins. So they'll have a few drive in movies
Speaker 1: each weekend, and then they have some some new movies
Speaker 1: and a lot of older movies that people really like
Speaker 1: and like to rewatch playing in their theaters. They can
Speaker 1: run out their theaters. You can have a private party
Speaker 1: still at a minimized capacity for an entire theater. So
Speaker 1: if you're entired, if you're the NBA team living in
Speaker 1: a bubble, you can have a theater together and watch
Speaker 1: a movie. But you might already have a movie theater
Speaker 1: in your bubble. I don't know it's the NBA. I
Speaker 1: don't fall it, uh, but you know a lot of
Speaker 1: them have turned to drive in movie theaters. So it's
Speaker 1: the way that you can pay. You can be in
Speaker 1: your car. You're kind of still isolated, but you can
Speaker 1: watch a movie. And drive ins were a thing of
Speaker 1: the past, and they're still around. Only yeah, not nearly
Speaker 1: as many as there used to be. We do have
Speaker 1: a a fairly big one here in Atlanta called Starlight Um.
Speaker 1: That is, you know, they've often rented that space out
Speaker 1: for all sorts of stuff like like like like farmers
Speaker 1: markets and things and flea markets. But uh, you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of those drive in theaters that used to
Speaker 1: exist are have long since been bulldozed, but part of
Speaker 1: the pandemic, some of them are coming back. But I
Speaker 1: guess my point is, my hope is that that that community,
Speaker 1: once once people are once we do have a vaccine,
Speaker 1: and once once we're used to the new normal and
Speaker 1: hopefully things are better, that people will still want that
Speaker 1: camaraderie and movie theaters will make a comeback. I feel
Speaker 1: like if we get to a point whereas the society
Speaker 1: we can be around each other safely again, and you know,
Speaker 1: I know that will take some time. I know a
Speaker 1: few people who are worried about first run vaccines and
Speaker 1: things like that, so even once we have one, it
Speaker 1: will take a while for it to get out to
Speaker 1: everybody and do its job, hopefully quicker than we're expecting.
Speaker 1: But but we don't know. But I have, like my
Speaker 1: hope is that this time in isolation, this time apart,
Speaker 1: in this time watching movies on demand will make people
Speaker 1: desire to be together in these situations more um in
Speaker 1: the future, and so I'm hoping it has to come back.
Speaker 1: I like going to the movie theater. I also am
Speaker 1: a curmudgtion about when people talk around on on their
Speaker 1: cell phone. Uh, I guess I hit that when I
Speaker 1: turned thirty. But I wouldn't mind if we had more
Speaker 1: theater that had. There's a lot I don't like about
Speaker 1: the Alamo Drafthouse. I will not get into all of that,
Speaker 1: this is not the time and place, but I will
Speaker 1: say I love their policy. They have a zero tolerance
Speaker 1: policy for people who are talking or texting or anything
Speaker 1: like that in a movie, and they will tell you
Speaker 1: to leave if you're doing it, and you know they
Speaker 1: want they want to preserve that movie going experience. And
Speaker 1: that's the sort of thing I like to see because
Speaker 1: it really does change your perception of the film and
Speaker 1: change your experience of watching it. And yes, it's nice
Speaker 1: to be able to see these stories at home at
Speaker 1: your own convenience and be able to pause the film
Speaker 1: whenever you want so you can go and you know,
Speaker 1: make a snack or go to the bathroom or whatever,
Speaker 1: and you're not missing anything. You don't have to come
Speaker 1: back and say, what's happened? Why is she talking to him? Now?
Speaker 1: You don't have to do any of those things. Um,
Speaker 1: but it's you lose so much, I mean just in
Speaker 1: the scale, the scope, especially for those those special effects
Speaker 1: heavy films, and you lose that that feeling of sitting
Speaker 1: in a room with people, most of whom you don't know,
Speaker 1: and you're all experiencing the same thing and all having
Speaker 1: you know, these very human reactions. We we talked about
Speaker 1: on Business on the Brink, how the millennial generation is
Speaker 1: much more focused on experience and things, yeah, than things,
Speaker 1: And I feel like this is one that is an experience.
Speaker 1: You know. So I know that movie theaters have been
Speaker 1: declining for a while, but I really hope we find
Speaker 1: a way to pivot back and make it work because
Speaker 1: and there are a lot of other things we didn't
Speaker 1: really touch on here. We're kind of out of time,
Speaker 1: but there's a there's a very complicated relationship between movie
Speaker 1: studios and cable companies because a lot of those have
Speaker 1: kind of merged together. You know, we mentioned Universal, they're
Speaker 1: part of NBC, which means if they wanted to, they
Speaker 1: could use Peacock, the streaming service for NBC in a
Speaker 1: way very similar to the way Warner is using HBO Max. Right,
Speaker 1: we could start seeing more fragmentation like that, where we're
Speaker 1: going to see more and more subscription based services taking
Speaker 1: the place of things like the theatrical experience. That could
Speaker 1: be a future. It's not one I particularly want to see.
Speaker 1: But uh, this this is complicated stuff because those companies
Speaker 1: have all kind of merged into these mega communications and
Speaker 1: entertainment companies. And and it's funny to me because this
Speaker 1: is the same sort of thing that the US government
Speaker 1: previously attempted to prevent, Like there were rules in place
Speaker 1: where movie studios would not be allowed to own chains
Speaker 1: of theaters because it was anti competitive. But now we're
Speaker 1: seeing that exact same thing play out. Is just not
Speaker 1: movie theaters, it's in streaming services because it's cable companies
Speaker 1: and and there was no one to step in the
Speaker 1: way of any of that. Yeah. Yeah, But unfortunately we're
Speaker 1: out of time, so we can't dive further into that today.
Speaker 1: Maybe in the future we've gotta we gotta mash up
Speaker 1: ahead of us. That's gonna be a lot of fun
Speaker 1: to chat about. The first, I think we're gonna take
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Speaker 1: has to offer, and we're back. Listen. We just had
Speaker 1: a Sonic the Hedgehog movie, and we're about to have
Speaker 1: a June movie. Look, I know they're both really old properties.
Speaker 1: We talked about Sonic on business in the brink and June.
Speaker 1: I can't remember when I first learned about it because
Speaker 1: it was around, it's been around forever, not forever, but
Speaker 1: for a while. Um, but they're they're new again. So
Speaker 1: I wanted okay, I wanted to pick things that were
Speaker 1: relevant currently. Okay, so uh, we would typically go do
Speaker 1: a rundown on what these are. So Dune being a
Speaker 1: famous science fiction uh epic series at this point Frank
Speaker 1: Herbert creating it, and it's a a a series that
Speaker 1: begins with a character who inherits his father's legacy and
Speaker 1: his father himself has been essentially punished by being sent
Speaker 1: to lord over a desert planet called Aracus. But it's
Speaker 1: it's complicated politics and mythology. It's got this mixture of
Speaker 1: mysticism and science fiction mobile sarlax essentially yeah. Yeah. Sand
Speaker 1: words being the big famous image that you see, and
Speaker 1: it's influenced tons of stuff. It's been adapted into films
Speaker 1: and mini series before. The film often gets a lot
Speaker 1: of criticism. The original movie gets a lot of criticism,
Speaker 1: partly because a lot of the stuff that happens in
Speaker 1: the book has characters who are are thinking things through.
Speaker 1: So how do you portray that when it's a movie,
Speaker 1: because you can't, like you could try and create dialogue,
Speaker 1: but that gets very artificial very quickly, so so there
Speaker 1: was a lot of voiceovers. There's a lot of voiceovers also.
Speaker 1: You know, as as an actor, I'm often told it's
Speaker 1: it's what you think between the lines that sells it.
Speaker 1: But you get tired of watching that much thinking yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: You'd have characters essentially stop what they're doing for like
Speaker 1: forty five seconds so that this monologue could be performed
Speaker 1: via voiceover while they were staring out at nothing. Do
Speaker 1: you do you like Dune? I do I do like Dune? Um?
Speaker 1: You know it's I'm not a I'm not a die
Speaker 1: hard Dune fan, but that's because when I was growing up,
Speaker 1: I I lean more towards fantasy than science fiction. The
Speaker 1: two were always grouped together in bookstores, but I was
Speaker 1: more of a fantasy guy. So again, token, I mean,
Speaker 1: I've got the token tattoo, etcetera, etcetera. But I have
Speaker 1: an appreciation for done, and there is a lot of
Speaker 1: fantasy in Dune as well. Like I think of it
Speaker 1: as science fiction, but if you actually read through it,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of fantastical elements, things, things that
Speaker 1: things that almost range towards magical. Um with that the
Speaker 1: way those those that world plays out. Or are you
Speaker 1: are you a big fan of Dune? I am so.
Speaker 1: I watched I watched the original movie. That was my
Speaker 1: intro to it. I will just say way back when. Um,
Speaker 1: but I like it. I do like this story. I'm
Speaker 1: very excited about the new movie. It looks like it
Speaker 1: holds pretty true to the book, which is something we've
Speaker 1: talked about in past podcasts by saying that five times
Speaker 1: fast or just once for me? Yeah, yeah, for me
Speaker 1: obviously too. Or I'm sure we'll talk about it again
Speaker 1: in the future as well, because it's it's something that
Speaker 1: constantly comes up in the geek sphere, right right, How
Speaker 1: do you how do you adapt things that were in
Speaker 1: one medium for another, and how do you satisfy not
Speaker 1: just the fans of the original, but how do you
Speaker 1: bring new fans in who are unfamiliar with the stuff.
Speaker 1: This is really we will do episodes where we dive
Speaker 1: into that because that is a big, heavy, like complicated topic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so so I am. And I don't mind. I don't
Speaker 1: mind when movies veer from the books. Because sometimes they
Speaker 1: need to. But as you said, like with the thinking, um,
Speaker 1: I am a fan of Dune, I am more of
Speaker 1: a fan of Sonic The Hedgehog movie, Holy Cow, the game.
Speaker 1: The game, I haven't full disclosure, I haven't seen the movie.
Speaker 1: It actually got better reviews than I expected it to them.
Speaker 1: Bam boys had some interesting, funny things to say about it.
Speaker 1: I think they said it on The Besties, though I
Speaker 1: don't think it was I would ad. I don't recall.
Speaker 1: I'm not one caught up on on their series, but
Speaker 1: I don't recall them talking about it. I think it
Speaker 1: was the Best Ties, um, just Justin and Griffin. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree, I saw I also have not seen it
Speaker 1: full disclosure, but I've seen reviews about that. But we
Speaker 1: were really basing it more on Sonic the Hedgehog, the
Speaker 1: character in general, and yeah, it's a game series, it's
Speaker 1: been around for many years out of Sega, and of
Speaker 1: course he Sonic was a direct response to to Mario
Speaker 1: kind of and give him a literal run for his money. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they needed they needed, they needed to have a a
Speaker 1: video game iconic character to help the Sega brand, and
Speaker 1: Sonic ended up being it a blue hedgehog who runs
Speaker 1: really fast and has a perpetual arch nemesis in the
Speaker 1: form of Dr Egmund, who who turns poor little, cute
Speaker 1: little animals into robots. Yeah. Yeah, it's actually when you
Speaker 1: it's actually when you really look at at the what's
Speaker 1: going on in Sonic that you realize, like, wow, this
Speaker 1: is like some Cronenberg level horror stuff going on here.
Speaker 1: Don't say that I don't like horror. But the thing
Speaker 1: I like about Sonic is because you spin and then
Speaker 1: you just spin as a as as the character. And
Speaker 1: it is certainly a difficult game, especially when you get
Speaker 1: to the higher levels. But I I am horrible at
Speaker 1: jumping from platform into platform like you do with Mario,
Speaker 1: and I like Mario, but you can skip a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of that. If you're good at Sonic. You just
Speaker 1: spin right over it and then you're at the end
Speaker 1: of the level. So yeah, I am also not particularly
Speaker 1: strong at platformers. So while I think some people might
Speaker 1: view this, at least the early Sonic games as being
Speaker 1: a platform er with training wheels, I don't mind having
Speaker 1: training wheels if it means I get to learn how
Speaker 1: to play. Uh So, um, I have a pitch for
Speaker 1: Sonic Hedgehog meats Doune You're ready, I actually wrote this
Speaker 1: one down. Here we go. So Sonic Atreyades is a
Speaker 1: young hedgehog noble who gets plopped down on the planet
Speaker 1: Aracus while he's enjoying a spicy chili dog boosted by
Speaker 1: a bit of milange in the chili spice. An armed
Speaker 1: force under the command of the evil baron doctor Vladimir
Speaker 1: Robotnick Sonics family is whited out, but Sonic escapes into
Speaker 1: the desert wasteland when he discovers that the milange has
Speaker 1: given him the ability, nay the compulsion, to run fast.
Speaker 1: Gotta go fast, he says a lot, and he runs
Speaker 1: out from the dangers of a military takeover into the
Speaker 1: dangers of a desert filled with sandworms, and there he
Speaker 1: discovers a brave indigenous force and a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: sandworms and a love of gold rings. For some reason,
Speaker 1: I still need to work that part out the gold
Speaker 1: rings I'm having I'm having trouble working the gold rings
Speaker 1: in Okay, Okay, So that, um that brings me to
Speaker 1: my pitch, which flat out not as good as yours.
Speaker 1: Way to mesh all those characters together. But okay, so
Speaker 1: polish Radius, who's the main character of Dude is with
Speaker 1: the Benny Jester and he has to stick his hand
Speaker 1: and essentially what I remember as being the same as
Speaker 1: the boo box from Hook the pain box or you
Speaker 1: don't know what's in it, And he pulls out his
Speaker 1: hand and on each finger is a gold ring, and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, there is a rumble under the
Speaker 1: ground as these five gold rings called this horrible creature
Speaker 1: to him, and you just see the sand he's he's
Speaker 1: staring out into the desert as the sand is flying everywhere,
Speaker 1: and mountains crumble on either side of this huge mound
Speaker 1: that is spinning towards him, and out pops this giant
Speaker 1: rays or toothed blue giant hedgehog whose nose could swallow you.
Speaker 1: Not his mouth, no, his nose because he is that big.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sad, I'm yelling into the microphone. Sorry, everybody.
Speaker 1: And then he asked for a chili dog. So so
Speaker 1: in your version of Dune Meats Sonic, the hedgehog Sonic
Speaker 1: is a sandworm. He is, and it's very anti climatic,
Speaker 1: that's but it's really exciting, like I I legit had
Speaker 1: not thought of that as a possibility, you know. That's
Speaker 1: that's honestly what made me want to do. I was like,
Speaker 1: Sonic was recent Une, so I could be a sandworm.
Speaker 1: I like that. You made the chili dog the spice.
Speaker 1: I may have I might have stole that a little
Speaker 1: bit from you, but we didn't. We didn't even mention that.
Speaker 1: Then in Dune there's this um the substance on Aracus
Speaker 1: in particular, called spice, which can be refined into a
Speaker 1: drug called milange, and that has different different effects on people.
Speaker 1: But that's why I was like, what if the milange
Speaker 1: chili dog is what gives Sonic the ability to run fast? Yes? Yes,
Speaker 1: uh yeah, which I think was more of a thing
Speaker 1: in the cartoon and maybe the movie than the video game.
Speaker 1: By the cartoon was a lot of fun, you guys.
Speaker 1: It's it's old. I don't know if it holds up,
Speaker 1: but it was a lot of fun at the time. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So that's kind of an example of the sort of
Speaker 1: mashups will do. We did one, uh did we? Was
Speaker 1: that just a test where we did Willy Wonka and
Speaker 1: the Candy Man and that one turned out great? Well,
Speaker 1: maybe we'll be able to revisit it. Because while those
Speaker 1: things were supposed to come out at least I think
Speaker 1: Candyman was supposed to come out around this time, and
Speaker 1: I was hoping to get it out for Halloween. Um,
Speaker 1: because of pandemic, everything's been pushed back. So the news
Speaker 1: at the time was that, uh, as we all know,
Speaker 1: and we'll definitely talk about this more in depth in
Speaker 1: the future, Jordan Peel is remaking the old horror movie
Speaker 1: candy Man um to be a little bit more poignant
Speaker 1: to today's issues, although it was at the time as
Speaker 1: well just actually really yeah really a kind of a
Speaker 1: forward thinking horror movie at the time. Yeah, so he's
Speaker 1: but he's bringing it back around from all of the
Speaker 1: sequels to its original form. And then uh, also at
Speaker 1: the time, it had been announced that Netflix was going
Speaker 1: to do a role doll series, so hence that mash up,
Speaker 1: we might bring it back because neither of those things
Speaker 1: have actually come out yet, so uh, I don't want
Speaker 1: to want to spoil what we came up with for that. Um,
Speaker 1: but this next part is new because when we were
Speaker 1: doing the mashups as movies as site gags, we couldn't
Speaker 1: ask you guys, what what you would have done in
Speaker 1: the mash up. But if you just listen to Sonic
Speaker 1: and Dune and we're like, huh, I think I could
Speaker 1: do better, which which we do not dispute. Yeah, right us,
Speaker 1: and tell us how you would mash is two up.
Speaker 1: I mean we might even read it on the air,
Speaker 1: as opposed to just reading it and going dang, why
Speaker 1: are they so creative? Right? And also the same thing
Speaker 1: is true for if there are either discussion topics within
Speaker 1: the Gego sphere that you feel really merit a kind
Speaker 1: of you know, conversation and maybe debate. Uh, it could
Speaker 1: be anything within the Gego sphere, everything from you know,
Speaker 1: the adaptations. We've got a planned episode coming up about
Speaker 1: the use of nostalgia as a jumping off point that
Speaker 1: I have a lot of feelings about and a lot
Speaker 1: of thoughts about. I think it will be a multipart
Speaker 1: discussion because there's lots of facets to it as well.
Speaker 1: That's true. And then there's also if you have suggestions
Speaker 1: for mashups those that's another great thing to get in
Speaker 1: touch with us about. Like if there's two properties that
Speaker 1: preferably properties that are not that at least on the
Speaker 1: surface similar to one another. If it's two things that
Speaker 1: are really close to each other, there might not be
Speaker 1: a whole lot of material to work with, but we'll
Speaker 1: we'll give it a shot. But all of those things
Speaker 1: are the sort of things will be looking out for
Speaker 1: if you do have an idea that you would like
Speaker 1: us to know about. One way to get in touch
Speaker 1: with us right now, while we still establish our presence
Speaker 1: online is on Twitter. On Twitter, we are Ellen c
Speaker 1: Underscore Podcast and so you can send us a tweet
Speaker 1: or a d M there and uh, we'll make sure
Speaker 1: our d M s are open for that, and that
Speaker 1: would be one way to get in touch with us.
Speaker 1: We also have an Instagram account, so you can message
Speaker 1: us there as well. Yes, and we are also on Facebook,
Speaker 1: which I checked pretty regularly, so you can message us
Speaker 1: there as well. That one, that one is all up
Speaker 1: to Ariel because I ditched it all the social media's.
Speaker 1: One thing or about at the large new Drunk Collider
Speaker 1: podcast that we didn't talk about that I do want
Speaker 1: to end with is that, you know, geeks are very
Speaker 1: very passionate, and you can be opinionated about something and
Speaker 1: still be kind to people who have different opinions in you,
Speaker 1: so be nice. We're We're open to even even if
Speaker 1: you want to send constructive criticism, We're open to that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, yeah. Our Our opinion is that that
Speaker 1: we can love something, we can critique. That's something, but
Speaker 1: there's no need to get mean about it. And that Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, if I get into a conversation with someone
Speaker 1: who genuinely loves the Star Wars prequels, uh, I can
Speaker 1: be of the right temperament to accept that they hold
Speaker 1: an opinion that is very different from mine, but that
Speaker 1: does not make that opinion less valid even though they're wrong.
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about that in an upcoming episode,
Speaker 1: so don't spoil it yet, Jonathan, Okay, fair, fair enough.
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think I tipped my hand
Speaker 1: too much about my future. Now you didn't, you didn't.
Speaker 1: But before we get into territory where we're a two
Speaker 1: hour episode again, I think we should sign off for
Speaker 1: this one. So yes, we look forward to conversing with
Speaker 1: you about all things geeky in the future. We will
Speaker 1: have several episodes ready to go right at the beginning,
Speaker 1: so chances are if you want to dive into more,
Speaker 1: you've got it just a click away, and every week
Speaker 1: we'll be bringing you fresh new geekiness. So we look
Speaker 1: forward to chatting with you again really soon. Yes, until
Speaker 1: next time. I have been a real casting and I
Speaker 1: am Let me check my notes. Jonathan Strickland. The Large
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