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<v Speaker 1>a question for you. Okay, your question is and this

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<v Speaker 1>will actually loop back into the episode, believe it or not.

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<v Speaker 1>You're familiar with the Dungeons and the Dragons. Correct, I

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<v Speaker 1>might be a little familiar with the dungeons and the dragons. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>if you had to put yourself into a class in

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<v Speaker 1>the Dungeons and the Dragons, like any class you want.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't have to be one that you think fits

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<v Speaker 1>you right now. You could be any class in the

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<v Speaker 1>real world. Which class do you choose? I would be

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<v Speaker 1>a barred barion, a bart so barred barbarian. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Wait are you do? You only play heavy metal? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you like? Do you like pose for Molly Hatchet album covers? Listen?

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<v Speaker 1>We all know uh well, actually our new listeners may

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<v Speaker 1>not know. I do dabble in the LARPing when it's

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<v Speaker 1>not pandemic, and I usually play heavy hitters barbarian type people.

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<v Speaker 1>I just like it. It's just it's fun to not

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<v Speaker 1>have to worry about learning too much stuff, fun to

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<v Speaker 1>whack people with a giant foam stick. Yes, but then

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<v Speaker 1>I also I also play music in in you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my real life, and then some of my bandmates also

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<v Speaker 1>play with me, so then I end up playing music.

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<v Speaker 1>And so bard Baryon is not an actual d and

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<v Speaker 1>d uh class for for anybody who's not familiar, But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really working to make it one so you get

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<v Speaker 1>multi class. Yeah, what about you, I'm trying to remember

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<v Speaker 1>the rules for D and D and whether Bard is

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<v Speaker 1>allowable as a multi class character. Um, well, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>it to ends on the iterations, right. Yeah. You also,

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<v Speaker 1>dear listeners, have to remember that when I started playing

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<v Speaker 1>Dudgeons and Dragons, it was after the basic dn D

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<v Speaker 1>set that had been released, but it was when Advanced

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<v Speaker 1>Dungeons and Dragons was a thing before even the second edition.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've had a lot of different experiences with dn

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<v Speaker 1>D over the many generations. I would say that out

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<v Speaker 1>of all the different classes that have existed throughout the

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<v Speaker 1>various iterations of dn D, I would go with Swashbuckler,

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<v Speaker 1>which I recall from Advanced Douges and Dragons second edition.

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<v Speaker 1>It was in the Fighters Manual where you got like

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<v Speaker 1>a supplemental manual to the game, and it had a

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<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of different subclasses of fighters and swashbucklers essentially

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<v Speaker 1>pirate or musketeer type character. But the other option I

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<v Speaker 1>would have gone with, if I go with just the

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<v Speaker 1>basic ones, is also barred, not because I'm particularly musical,

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<v Speaker 1>but because I'm irritating and rarely helpful. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that about you at all. You're very helpful, and I

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy being around. That's why you and I are in

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<v Speaker 1>a party together and you want to hang out with me.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm glad we have that question settled. And today

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to be talking a lot about movies and

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<v Speaker 1>what has been going on throughout the pandemic and how

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<v Speaker 1>it's affected movies. Just as we talked about television previously,

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<v Speaker 1>now we're talking about film. And this is also a

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<v Speaker 1>moment for us to acknowledge that are our wonderful producer, Tori.

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<v Speaker 1>She has a background in film, she went to film school,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm sure this is one of those things that

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<v Speaker 1>she feels particularly passionate about as we are looking at

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<v Speaker 1>how the world of film is changing as a result

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<v Speaker 1>of the the health crisis. But we're gonna start off

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<v Speaker 1>by talking about specific movies and what's been going on

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<v Speaker 1>with them. Some of them have have seen their released,

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<v Speaker 1>its shuffle around a bit, and and specifically giggy movies

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<v Speaker 1>that were excited about. So you know, we're not always

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about TV and movies, but that's what

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing today, all right, So I think we should

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<v Speaker 1>start with the Batman, the Batman, not just the Batman,

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<v Speaker 1>the Batman. The Batman with Robert Pattinson, um because they

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<v Speaker 1>went back to filming during during the pandemic, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they immediately shut down because Robert Pattinson had COVID. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this was one of those examples we were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>in that last episode about how depending upon who gets

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<v Speaker 1>affected and and and how often they're around other people. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>a COVID case can shut down a production for a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks. Now, in this case, you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the lead actor, So obviously that's going to affect things.

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<v Speaker 1>But if it if it was like a day player,

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<v Speaker 1>like a one line person, they might just get replaced,

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<v Speaker 1>right if if and if they were able to determine,

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<v Speaker 1>oh well, that person wasn't around enough people for that

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<v Speaker 1>to be a potential problem. So it was originally going

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<v Speaker 1>to come out on October. In October, and now currently

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<v Speaker 1>they've pushed that back to March of twenty two, and

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<v Speaker 1>uh Dune, which was going to come out a little earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>is now moving into the Batman's original time launch window.

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<v Speaker 1>And June was supposed to come out this year is

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be a Christmas present. The spice must flow,

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<v Speaker 1>but it must flow a little later than when we

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<v Speaker 1>intended Yeah, that's that's a that's a bummer. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's part of this is obviously because of delays in production.

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<v Speaker 1>Part of it is due to just making the strategy

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<v Speaker 1>of when your tent pole films are going to launch,

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<v Speaker 1>and and it's also a lot of hedging your bets

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<v Speaker 1>and wondering like when are you going to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to make the biggest impact, When will will theaters be

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<v Speaker 1>open by then? We'll talk a lot more about theaters

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<v Speaker 1>later in this episode. Yeah, and you know that's not

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<v Speaker 1>the only one. Matrix is also being pushed back. Matrix

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<v Speaker 1>is being moved up. This one's actually they finished that

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<v Speaker 1>one earlier and so it's been moved up to December one,

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<v Speaker 1>but originally it was supposed to come out in the

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<v Speaker 1>spring of two. I'm excited about Matrix four, although I

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<v Speaker 1>never saw the third Matrix movie. I so just my

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<v Speaker 1>very personal opinion, I there are only a few movies

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<v Speaker 1>that once they get to the third I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is still super awesome, and Matrix is one of

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<v Speaker 1>those that just didn't hit that benchmark for me. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Matrix two is why I didn't see Matrix three. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I loved the first film, I thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting, really innovative. It was the second DVD I

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<v Speaker 1>ever bought, which I think is I think a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people Matrix is the first. Yeah. Uh, the first

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<v Speaker 1>first DVD I ever bought was South Park, Bigger, Longer,

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<v Speaker 1>and uncut. So I wouldn't. I wouldn't. That's That's a

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<v Speaker 1>fantastic musical. But Matrix, for I am still kind of

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<v Speaker 1>excited about it because I want to see what the

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<v Speaker 1>new vision is for that world. I didn't like the

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<v Speaker 1>way Matrix to unfolded. I felt like a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the things I thought I understood about the first film

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<v Speaker 1>I was totally off base about, and instead of being

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<v Speaker 1>excited by that, I was discouraged, which is why I

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<v Speaker 1>never bothered to see the third one, because I was

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<v Speaker 1>just like, this feels like it took a left turn

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<v Speaker 1>and I really wanted to see what was straight ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>So I got I was like, I'm out, um, but

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<v Speaker 1>I do. I do wanna see how that goes. And

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<v Speaker 1>of course, I mean, anytime you can build out the

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<v Speaker 1>mythology of a science fiction world, I think that can

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<v Speaker 1>be exciting. Yeah, if if you just want to explore

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<v Speaker 1>more of the Matrix world, have you watched The Animatrix.

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<v Speaker 1>I have not, and that was one of those that

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<v Speaker 1>I really wanted to check out because I kept hearing

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<v Speaker 1>that at least half of the entries in The Animatrix

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<v Speaker 1>were really good and the other half were you know,

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<v Speaker 1>different people had different reactions to Yeah, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>would agree, but it also helps you kind of explore

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<v Speaker 1>that world more. You expect it to be a left

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<v Speaker 1>turn sort of or at least a bunny trail. But

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<v Speaker 1>back to Batman is not the The Batman, sorry, is

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<v Speaker 1>not the only superhero movie being pushed back. Uh, the

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<v Speaker 1>Flash is also being pushed back. Shazam two is being

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<v Speaker 1>pushed back, and then Black Adam sadly not being pushed back.

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<v Speaker 1>It was taken off, which I just want to say, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoy Shazam, but I was really watching it. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>be honest here to myself, true to myself. For Black

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<v Speaker 1>Adam to come in, because that's Dwayne Johnson, Dwayne the

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<v Speaker 1>Rock Johnson, what the Rock who I was very excited

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<v Speaker 1>to see his Black Adam. So that's disappointing. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>they bring it back in a future time. I mean, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>as as we were just alluding to the pandemic has

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<v Speaker 1>made it much more complicated for these these companies that

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<v Speaker 1>have had extensive, like launch plans that are laid out

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<v Speaker 1>to be like a decade out. Disney has done this

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<v Speaker 1>with the Marvel Films, not to mention some other ones

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about in just a second, but uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>clearly something like this throws a wrench into all of that,

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<v Speaker 1>because again, productions are more complicated and you're not really

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<v Speaker 1>sure if you're even gonna have theaters to release two

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<v Speaker 1>by the end of it. Yeah. The weird one for

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<v Speaker 1>me though, because Black Adam is not the only movie

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<v Speaker 1>from that studio slate that has been dropped all together.

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<v Speaker 1>They've also dropped the Minecraft movie. To me, I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thinking that's when it's perfect to making Quarantine, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>all I would imagine. It would all be C g

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<v Speaker 1>I and voice actors. I haven't heard much about the

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<v Speaker 1>Minecraft movie. You have not, but I was really hoping

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<v Speaker 1>it was going to be a live action film starring

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<v Speaker 1>Patton Oswald with a pick ax. I would, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>would watch that. I would watch that very very hard.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just didn't even know there was a Minecraft

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<v Speaker 1>movie in production until I read that so we read

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<v Speaker 1>an article in Variety that had all this information in

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<v Speaker 1>it about the different films that have been affected by

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<v Speaker 1>the pandemic, and then we got the thing that leads

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<v Speaker 1>into where I asked the question at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>the episode something I'm also excited to see what people

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<v Speaker 1>do with. So, yeah, this is one. I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 1>that there was a Dungeons and Dragons movie currently in

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<v Speaker 1>development until I was doing research on films that had

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<v Speaker 1>been impacted by the lockdown and I saw that one

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<v Speaker 1>of them that was pushed back was Dungeons and Dragons,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought, really, they're going to try and make

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<v Speaker 1>another one of those. Well, I mean, they've been talking

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<v Speaker 1>about it forever. So for me, it's not that I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know that there was a Dungeons and Dragons movie

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<v Speaker 1>and development, it's that I didn't know one had actually

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<v Speaker 1>taken purchase. I mean we even heard Joe Meganello. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I said that right, Uh wanted to make a

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<v Speaker 1>D and D movie. He's a big D and D fan.

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<v Speaker 1>We know that Vin Diesel is a big D and

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<v Speaker 1>D fans, so it was only a matter of time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just the past ones have not been exception of

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<v Speaker 1>the cartoon have not been the best so most fun

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<v Speaker 1>to watch. One thing I think is interesting is that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the people who you would associate with

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<v Speaker 1>actually doing a D and D movie, as in these

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<v Speaker 1>are people who are either associated with with loving the

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<v Speaker 1>game or loving like video games, things like like Henry

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<v Speaker 1>cavill and stuff, people like that. They're all these huge

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<v Speaker 1>beefy dudes, which is which is funny too, Like, like

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<v Speaker 1>I think of the gut people I played DND with,

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<v Speaker 1>we none of us were huge beefy dudes. Um so no,

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<v Speaker 1>but you might have pretended that you were. But these

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<v Speaker 1>guys are gonna have to pretend. Like I would want

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<v Speaker 1>a D n D movie where half the film is

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<v Speaker 1>taking place in the real world and you see the

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<v Speaker 1>real people who are playing the characters. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you've got a big beefy dude playing a character,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to see the people playing the game playing

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<v Speaker 1>the characters. I see what you're saying. Didn't they do

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<v Speaker 1>that in the last DND movie that didn't go. Honestly

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I stopped. I it didn't have Richard O'Brien

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<v Speaker 1>in it, so I was out, all right. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>do that fair enough. So we don't know much about

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<v Speaker 1>this D and D movie other than the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>it was supposed to release in one and is now

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<v Speaker 1>pushed to May two. Try saying that five times past,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's not that hard. But there are lots of

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<v Speaker 1>speculations of people that they've been pursuing to be in it.

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<v Speaker 1>Will Smith, Josh Brolin, Chris Pratt, Fan diesel, Vin Diesel Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Matthew McConnaughey, Jamie Foxx, Joel Ledgerton, Dave Battista, Jeremy Renner,

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny Depp. A lot of them have worked in fantasy

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<v Speaker 1>and sci fi genres, so it's not that they're unusual too,

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<v Speaker 1>they're unfamiliar to those genres. But Luper did make an

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<v Speaker 1>assumption or post a question, and I wonder what you

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<v Speaker 1>think about it, Jonathan. They said, are they looking at

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<v Speaker 1>all these people to pare them down to one leading man?

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<v Speaker 1>Or are they looking at all of these people to

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<v Speaker 1>be leading men? Because each is going to play a

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<v Speaker 1>different character type and a party is usually made up

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<v Speaker 1>of leading men, which I think would be fantastic. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>love to see each of them take their own style

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<v Speaker 1>of acting and preferred genre and put it into their

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<v Speaker 1>D and D party character. I mean, I imagine it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be it's going to be an ensemble piece.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's not an ensemble piece, then it's not really

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<v Speaker 1>Dungeons and Dragons, right, So I mean, like it might

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<v Speaker 1>as well be any fantasy film if you have it

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<v Speaker 1>where there's one principal lead and then a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>supporting characters, you could you don't have to have the

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<v Speaker 1>D and D. You know. Uh, I p attached to

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<v Speaker 1>it at all because really, when I think of Duchess

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<v Speaker 1>and Dragons, I think of that that party experience, And honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to see an all women cast, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and just bring all the actresses from Bridesmaids in and

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<v Speaker 1>do a D and D movie. Okay, an aerial too,

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<v Speaker 1>an Ariel. I mean, I have no doubt it'll be

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<v Speaker 1>an ensemble cast. It's just whether it's an ensemble of

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<v Speaker 1>like a big name and a bunch of lesser known actors,

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<v Speaker 1>or an ensemble of all Yeah, I think it'll probably be.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're probably gonna aim. I mean a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the producers that are attached to this, or people

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<v Speaker 1>who have worked on movies like Guardians of the Galaxy.

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<v Speaker 1>So you look at that and you're like, Okay, well

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<v Speaker 1>you've worked with some ensembles that have some some notable

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<v Speaker 1>people in them. I mean, I think could probably expect

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<v Speaker 1>something along the same lines. And obviously, anytime you're trying

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<v Speaker 1>something like that, the hope is that you can set

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<v Speaker 1>things up for another franchise, right, So another like how

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<v Speaker 1>long are you going to go to the well of Marvel,

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<v Speaker 1>d C and Star Wars. You're probably gonna want a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of other things to dip into occasionally as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think Dudgeons and Dragons is one of those things. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Another one of those things is Ghosts Ghostbusters Afterlife. So

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<v Speaker 1>this was supposed to come out, uh in you know,

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<v Speaker 1>early at least, but it's had its own delays. It

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<v Speaker 1>recently wrapped shooting as in not like I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was in November of this year that they finally wrapped. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>their whole production was delayed significantly through the pandemic. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember seeing the teaser trailers for Ghostbusters Afterlife like

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<v Speaker 1>almost a year ago, and they hadn't even they still

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<v Speaker 1>had a year to go before they wrapped shooting. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and This is a hard one because they do have

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<v Speaker 1>kid actors and and kid actors grow up real fast.

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<v Speaker 1>And this one, this one is supposed to come out June,

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<v Speaker 1>and this one's from Paramount. We're going to talk a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more about some strategies that movie studios have

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to releasing films in the pandemic. What

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<v Speaker 1>Paramount has been essentially doing is, rather than holding onto

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<v Speaker 1>its movies, selling off those films to various streaming services. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Something else I am sure I will enjoy when it

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<v Speaker 1>eventually comes out is The Wicked movie. I've never actually

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<v Speaker 1>seen the stage play, now, you know. And I lived

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<v Speaker 1>with a roommate who adored it, so I've heard all

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<v Speaker 1>of the music. I just haven't never defied gravity on

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<v Speaker 1>multiple occasions, defied gravity and and defied societal expectations for myself.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's that's the your go to. Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>this was this was originally supposed to come out um

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<v Speaker 1>next December, so the December, but that obviously hasn't happened.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, as far as I know, they haven't even

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<v Speaker 1>begun production on this. The director who was attached to

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<v Speaker 1>the project had to exit, Stephen Daldry, because he had

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<v Speaker 1>scheduling conflicts because the delays had pushed this so far back.

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<v Speaker 1>So as far as I know, it's still planned. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's I haven't heard of a new director being attached

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<v Speaker 1>to it, largely because again, it's hard to plan things

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<v Speaker 1>when you're in the middle of a pandemic. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is a This is a bummer for people who who

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<v Speaker 1>like movie musicals. Yeah, yeah, you know, And I do

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate Daldry for stepping down. You know, it wasn't out

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<v Speaker 1>of malice. It was simply he couldn't turn it around

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<v Speaker 1>in the time they wanted. And I appreciate him saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you might find find somebody who can give you a

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<v Speaker 1>better product for the time frame you he he said

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<v Speaker 1>that it was an amicable parting. It was just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just business. Also just business. I'm kind of excited

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<v Speaker 1>because Jurassic to Park Dominion, it feels like it's taking

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<v Speaker 1>all of the previous Jurassic parks and mashing it all

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<v Speaker 1>up together, which it is, uh, and I'm very excited

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Uh to see all of those actors altogether,

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<v Speaker 1>the Jurassic World and the Jurassic Park, I'm I'm curious

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<v Speaker 1>to see if once again we will have a plot

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<v Speaker 1>that's so stupid about making dinosaurs as weapons, as if

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<v Speaker 1>that would somehow be more effective than I don't know weapons. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's Jurassic Park dominion. They're all going to be

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<v Speaker 1>wearing pith helmets, pith helmets and top hats and monocles

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<v Speaker 1>the dinosaurs, uh, and and playing parliament. I'm fine with that.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, this movie was an enormous effort. It took

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<v Speaker 1>a year and a half from pre production to rapping,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's with it being the first movie to come

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<v Speaker 1>back to production after every go that that was the

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<v Speaker 1>very first film, major film to go back into production

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<v Speaker 1>after the initial lockdown. According to the producers, they administered

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<v Speaker 1>approximately forty thousand COVID tests throughout the length of the

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<v Speaker 1>production process. Once they came back online. Apparently, the the

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<v Speaker 1>COVID testing added somewhere around eight million dollars to the

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<v Speaker 1>film's budget um, just just to make sure that they

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<v Speaker 1>were doing things in a way that wasn't going to

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<v Speaker 1>put anyone at risk. They also had hand washing stations

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<v Speaker 1>and temperature stations and doctors on set. They worked with

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<v Speaker 1>a private health company to make sure that their set

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<v Speaker 1>was as safe as they could possibly make it, which

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<v Speaker 1>is fantastic. And then they all lived in the bubble,

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<v Speaker 1>which mean they didn't really get to see their family.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, sometimes when you're shooting a film, if you've

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<v Speaker 1>if you've got a period of time where you're not working,

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<v Speaker 1>you can go visit your family for a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>if they're not nearby. These people couldn't do that. They

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<v Speaker 1>all had to be quarantined together. But in reading the

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<v Speaker 1>article from Deadline, it sounds like that made them a

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<v Speaker 1>lot closer and so I'm really interested to see how

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<v Speaker 1>that affects the actor's performances in this movie, because you've

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<v Speaker 1>got that extra level of vulnerability when you're living with

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<v Speaker 1>somebody day in day out. For that, it made me

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<v Speaker 1>think of the stories about the filming process for What

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<v Speaker 1>Hot American Summer, because everyone actually stayed at that summer camp,

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<v Speaker 1>and so through the process of staying there, they all

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<v Speaker 1>got like ridiculous and silly, and it kind of carried

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<v Speaker 1>over into the movie, which obviously is ridiculous and silly.

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<v Speaker 1>So I except for the week that they rented it

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<v Speaker 1>out to the bar Mitzia, So I think I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's like one of those sort of things where it

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of like you almost think of it as

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<v Speaker 1>a sleepaway camp kind of experience, not the movie sleepaway

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<v Speaker 1>Camp that's as a slasher film. But you know different,

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what I'm saying. Well, when we come back,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have a little bit more discussion about what

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<v Speaker 1>through the rest of the pandemic and out the other side,

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so we're back and a couple of our

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<v Speaker 1>news articles. We actually moved into this conversation topic because

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<v Speaker 1>it's important to the future of movie theaters. So Universal

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<v Speaker 1>Pictures has shortened the amount of time that a blockbuster movie,

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<v Speaker 1>a first round movie stays in the theater before people

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<v Speaker 1>can rent it online by it such like that to

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<v Speaker 1>to try to make up for these profits that are

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<v Speaker 1>being missed, and uh, it hit theater is pretty hard.

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<v Speaker 1>It did the original. Generally, the accepted approach is that

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<v Speaker 1>a film is in theaters for like three months before

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<v Speaker 1>you can start to offer it up on things like

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<v Speaker 1>Blu ray or streaming. But Universal shortens that to seventeen days,

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<v Speaker 1>so half a month essentially. M Yeah. And then like

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<v Speaker 1>very recent news, as in the week that we're recording this,

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<v Speaker 1>Warner Brothers announced that they're going to be just releasing

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<v Speaker 1>a whole year worth of their movies to age Max directly, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>without along with the movie theater, without any without any

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<v Speaker 1>extra charge for HBO Max. This is to drive more

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<v Speaker 1>people to subscribe to HBO Max. And uh, the idea

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<v Speaker 1>there is that films that will go up in theaters

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<v Speaker 1>will also be available that day on HBO Max and

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<v Speaker 1>they will be available for I think thirty one days.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah. So that that way, if you are, if

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<v Speaker 1>you are an HBO Max subscriber, then the seventeen movies

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<v Speaker 1>that Warner has on a slate for will all be available.

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<v Speaker 1>And both of these stories are making movie theater is

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<v Speaker 1>very nervous. Understandably, they are not. They are fans of

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of getting rid of that exclusivity, that exclusivity

0:26:53.440 --> 0:26:55.359
<v Speaker 1>of of only being able to see a movie in

0:26:55.359 --> 0:26:59.760
<v Speaker 1>a movie theater is the lifeblood for for theaters, and

0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:02.920
<v Speaker 1>they've been having a real hard time in a lot

0:27:02.920 --> 0:27:06.640
<v Speaker 1>of movie theaters have been looking at shutting down. Uh.

0:27:06.720 --> 0:27:10.080
<v Speaker 1>In fact, sin a World which owns regal cinemas shut

0:27:10.119 --> 0:27:14.880
<v Speaker 1>down all five six of its theaters for at least

0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:19.200
<v Speaker 1>until March of next year, because yeah, there's enough movies

0:27:19.240 --> 0:27:22.280
<v Speaker 1>coming out to keep them going. The I think the

0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:24.760
<v Speaker 1>nail in the coffin was when the new James Bond

0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:27.800
<v Speaker 1>film got pushed back. They said, there's, yeah, there's just

0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:30.720
<v Speaker 1>not enough movies to bring audiences in for us to

0:27:30.760 --> 0:27:35.040
<v Speaker 1>break even. They like, even even if they have all

0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:39.000
<v Speaker 1>full Like a lot of theaters are working at capacity

0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:41.880
<v Speaker 1>right now, so even if they have, they sell out

0:27:41.880 --> 0:27:46.440
<v Speaker 1>that entire capacity. If there's only one movie, they aren't

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:48.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna be able to pay their employees, aren't canna be

0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:51.560
<v Speaker 1>able to buy the popcorn, you have the concessions and everything.

0:27:51.720 --> 0:27:53.960
<v Speaker 1>We've known for a long time that the margins of

0:27:54.040 --> 0:27:58.320
<v Speaker 1>running the theater business are really thin. Like theaters do

0:27:58.440 --> 0:28:00.919
<v Speaker 1>not make very much money off of ticket sales. They

0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:05.080
<v Speaker 1>make their money elsewhere, like largely through concessions and also

0:28:05.160 --> 0:28:08.840
<v Speaker 1>renting out their space occasionally. And uh, and we're starting

0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:11.679
<v Speaker 1>obviously both of those take a huge head right. So

0:28:11.720 --> 0:28:13.840
<v Speaker 1>if you're if you're selling fewer tickets, fewer people are

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:18.800
<v Speaker 1>going to be buying food. Um, and if you are

0:28:18.800 --> 0:28:21.119
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of a pandemic, you're not gonna get

0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:22.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people saying, oh, you know what I

0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:25.560
<v Speaker 1>want to do rent out a movie theater and fill

0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:29.159
<v Speaker 1>it with two other people. So it's it's a really

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:33.440
<v Speaker 1>tough time. And there are a lot of articles out

0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:37.199
<v Speaker 1>there asking about do movie theaters even have a future?

0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Are they going to be able to survive this when

0:28:39.280 --> 0:28:45.360
<v Speaker 1>they were already struggling before the pandemic and now not

0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:48.640
<v Speaker 1>only has the pandemic shut them down in the meantime,

0:28:49.040 --> 0:28:54.240
<v Speaker 1>but setting an expectation among consumers about what seeing a

0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 1>film means these days, I mean it is. It's really

0:28:59.040 --> 0:29:02.320
<v Speaker 1>interesting to me because so much of the recouping the

0:29:02.360 --> 0:29:05.400
<v Speaker 1>cost of making the movie comes from that initial box

0:29:05.440 --> 0:29:09.040
<v Speaker 1>office weekend, you know. Uh, and if you're getting it

0:29:09.080 --> 0:29:11.320
<v Speaker 1>for free once streaming, I don't know how they're going

0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:15.040
<v Speaker 1>to recoup that. I don't have insight into that. But

0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:20.480
<v Speaker 1>also as a consumer, when when you look at for instance,

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 1>King Kong versus Godzilla or Dune or something big like that,

0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 1>which are a couple of the movies coming to HBO Max,

0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:30.720
<v Speaker 1>I want to see those on the big screen. There's

0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:34.640
<v Speaker 1>so much work and so much detail put into the

0:29:34.680 --> 0:29:38.640
<v Speaker 1>special effects, into the imagery, into the landscaping, and so

0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:44.080
<v Speaker 1>much soundscaping, so much artistry put into the entire package

0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:46.400
<v Speaker 1>that I you know, I have a pretty good media

0:29:46.480 --> 0:29:48.480
<v Speaker 1>set up at my house, but it still does not

0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:51.000
<v Speaker 1>compare in any way to seeing it on the big screen,

0:29:51.680 --> 0:29:53.520
<v Speaker 1>especially if you go opening night and you've got all

0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:55.240
<v Speaker 1>the people around you, and I realized, we can't do

0:29:55.280 --> 0:29:56.800
<v Speaker 1>that in a pandemic right now. But you know, you've

0:29:56.840 --> 0:29:58.440
<v Speaker 1>got all the people around you, and you all gasp

0:29:58.480 --> 0:30:00.440
<v Speaker 1>at the same moments, and you all laugh often share

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 1>at the same moments. There is nothing to replace that feeling. Um.

0:30:05.160 --> 0:30:09.280
<v Speaker 1>So Netflix watch parties do not even come close. I

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:11.720
<v Speaker 1>I fully agree with you, Ariel. I think like I'm

0:30:11.720 --> 0:30:15.040
<v Speaker 1>a curmudgeon, I'm a grouchy dude, and I'm I'm the

0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:17.040
<v Speaker 1>grouchy dude who when I go to the theater, I

0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:19.840
<v Speaker 1>hate it when someone is talking. I hate seeing that

0:30:19.920 --> 0:30:23.240
<v Speaker 1>glow of someone's getting on their phone. You know, I'm

0:30:23.280 --> 0:30:26.160
<v Speaker 1>the get off my lawn kind of guy. But I

0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:31.360
<v Speaker 1>love it when a room full of people are immersed

0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:36.920
<v Speaker 1>in the story and when something exciting happens, there is

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 1>a reaction in the audience that is it's a it's

0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:43.280
<v Speaker 1>akin to the feeling you get at live theater right

0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:46.920
<v Speaker 1>where people are having. It's it's a relationship between what's

0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:49.640
<v Speaker 1>going on in front of you and the audience. Now

0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:51.600
<v Speaker 1>in a film, it's weird because of course the film

0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:54.280
<v Speaker 1>can't react to what the way the audience is reacting,

0:30:54.680 --> 0:30:57.640
<v Speaker 1>but it is one of those things that's really special.

0:30:57.680 --> 0:31:01.080
<v Speaker 1>That communal feeling is something like some of my favorite

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:06.160
<v Speaker 1>memories that involved movies aren't about the film, but rather

0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:10.160
<v Speaker 1>the experience of seeing the film in a full theater. Um.

0:31:10.200 --> 0:31:13.360
<v Speaker 1>I think of Star Trek for the Voyage Home, which

0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:16.280
<v Speaker 1>was the Goofy Whales movie. You know, they go back

0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 1>into the eighties and they rescue some whales in that

0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:21.760
<v Speaker 1>movie and Star Trek. I saw that when it first

0:31:21.760 --> 0:31:24.880
<v Speaker 1>came out in a room full of Star Trek geeks,

0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:27.800
<v Speaker 1>and the reactions because that that movie was so lighthearted

0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:30.680
<v Speaker 1>and funny compared to the other Star Trek movies. It

0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 1>was such a huge surprise and people were so into

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:36.760
<v Speaker 1>it that it was it elevated the movie for me.

0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:41.840
<v Speaker 1>So it is a really scary thing to think that

0:31:41.840 --> 0:31:45.240
<v Speaker 1>that's an experience we may not be able to have

0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:50.320
<v Speaker 1>for quite some time, because even with things like rollouts

0:31:50.320 --> 0:31:56.960
<v Speaker 1>for vaccines, even with continued pressure to make sure that

0:31:57.320 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 1>people are are behaving response able, you know, there's just

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:05.280
<v Speaker 1>no way to I can't see a way for movie

0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:08.680
<v Speaker 1>theaters to exist the way they used to moving forward.

0:32:08.680 --> 0:32:12.880
<v Speaker 1>I think they're going to have to change, which, in turn,

0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:16.560
<v Speaker 1>as you were pointing out, means the whole film industry

0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:20.520
<v Speaker 1>has to change. Because if you can't do these ridiculously

0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:25.760
<v Speaker 1>enormous budget films and expect to recoup those costs, that's

0:32:25.760 --> 0:32:27.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to change the way movies are made. You're

0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:31.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna see a lot fewer of those big tent pole

0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:35.000
<v Speaker 1>blockbusters because there's just no way to make your money back.

0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:38.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean. But on the other hand, if you think

0:32:38.800 --> 0:32:41.960
<v Speaker 1>about it. For instance, quite a few of our more

0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:44.360
<v Speaker 1>independent movie theaters, in a way to in Atlanta, in

0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:47.480
<v Speaker 1>a way to make ends meet, have been converting to

0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:50.760
<v Speaker 1>drive ins. So they'll have a few drive in movies

0:32:50.800 --> 0:32:52.880
<v Speaker 1>each weekend, and then they have some some new movies

0:32:52.920 --> 0:32:54.880
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of older movies that people really like

0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:57.160
<v Speaker 1>and like to rewatch playing in their theaters. They can

0:32:57.200 --> 0:32:59.200
<v Speaker 1>run out their theaters. You can have a private party

0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:02.400
<v Speaker 1>still at a minimized capacity for an entire theater. So

0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:05.920
<v Speaker 1>if you're entired, if you're the NBA team living in

0:33:05.960 --> 0:33:07.960
<v Speaker 1>a bubble, you can have a theater together and watch

0:33:07.960 --> 0:33:10.440
<v Speaker 1>a movie. But you might already have a movie theater

0:33:10.480 --> 0:33:12.200
<v Speaker 1>in your bubble. I don't know it's the NBA. I

0:33:12.240 --> 0:33:15.040
<v Speaker 1>don't fall it, uh, but you know a lot of

0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:17.400
<v Speaker 1>them have turned to drive in movie theaters. So it's

0:33:17.400 --> 0:33:18.920
<v Speaker 1>the way that you can pay. You can be in

0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:21.840
<v Speaker 1>your car. You're kind of still isolated, but you can

0:33:21.840 --> 0:33:26.800
<v Speaker 1>watch a movie. And drive ins were a thing of

0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:30.160
<v Speaker 1>the past, and they're still around. Only yeah, not nearly

0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:31.680
<v Speaker 1>as many as there used to be. We do have

0:33:31.880 --> 0:33:36.680
<v Speaker 1>a a fairly big one here in Atlanta called Starlight Um.

0:33:36.720 --> 0:33:40.040
<v Speaker 1>That is, you know, they've often rented that space out

0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:42.880
<v Speaker 1>for all sorts of stuff like like like like farmers

0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:46.120
<v Speaker 1>markets and things and flea markets. But uh, you know,

0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:48.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot of those drive in theaters that used to

0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:52.880
<v Speaker 1>exist are have long since been bulldozed, but part of

0:33:52.880 --> 0:33:55.160
<v Speaker 1>the pandemic, some of them are coming back. But I

0:33:55.160 --> 0:33:59.960
<v Speaker 1>guess my point is, my hope is that that that community,

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:03.000
<v Speaker 1>once once people are once we do have a vaccine,

0:34:03.000 --> 0:34:06.880
<v Speaker 1>and once once we're used to the new normal and

0:34:06.920 --> 0:34:10.040
<v Speaker 1>hopefully things are better, that people will still want that

0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:13.680
<v Speaker 1>camaraderie and movie theaters will make a comeback. I feel

0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:16.640
<v Speaker 1>like if we get to a point whereas the society

0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:20.239
<v Speaker 1>we can be around each other safely again, and you know,

0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:22.200
<v Speaker 1>I know that will take some time. I know a

0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:25.200
<v Speaker 1>few people who are worried about first run vaccines and

0:34:25.280 --> 0:34:28.400
<v Speaker 1>things like that, so even once we have one, it

0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:29.880
<v Speaker 1>will take a while for it to get out to

0:34:29.880 --> 0:34:33.840
<v Speaker 1>everybody and do its job, hopefully quicker than we're expecting.

0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:36.000
<v Speaker 1>But but we don't know. But I have, like my

0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:39.400
<v Speaker 1>hope is that this time in isolation, this time apart,

0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:42.560
<v Speaker 1>in this time watching movies on demand will make people

0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:46.759
<v Speaker 1>desire to be together in these situations more um in

0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:49.000
<v Speaker 1>the future, and so I'm hoping it has to come back.

0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:51.160
<v Speaker 1>I like going to the movie theater. I also am

0:34:51.200 --> 0:34:53.239
<v Speaker 1>a curmudgtion about when people talk around on on their

0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:56.000
<v Speaker 1>cell phone. Uh, I guess I hit that when I

0:34:56.040 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 1>turned thirty. But I wouldn't mind if we had more

0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:02.600
<v Speaker 1>theater that had. There's a lot I don't like about

0:35:02.640 --> 0:35:05.239
<v Speaker 1>the Alamo Drafthouse. I will not get into all of that,

0:35:05.320 --> 0:35:06.960
<v Speaker 1>this is not the time and place, but I will

0:35:07.000 --> 0:35:10.680
<v Speaker 1>say I love their policy. They have a zero tolerance

0:35:10.719 --> 0:35:14.600
<v Speaker 1>policy for people who are talking or texting or anything

0:35:14.640 --> 0:35:16.600
<v Speaker 1>like that in a movie, and they will tell you

0:35:16.640 --> 0:35:19.560
<v Speaker 1>to leave if you're doing it, and you know they

0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:23.440
<v Speaker 1>want they want to preserve that movie going experience. And

0:35:23.480 --> 0:35:25.840
<v Speaker 1>that's the sort of thing I like to see because

0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:30.920
<v Speaker 1>it really does change your perception of the film and

0:35:31.040 --> 0:35:35.160
<v Speaker 1>change your experience of watching it. And yes, it's nice

0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:37.080
<v Speaker 1>to be able to see these stories at home at

0:35:37.120 --> 0:35:39.439
<v Speaker 1>your own convenience and be able to pause the film

0:35:39.440 --> 0:35:41.560
<v Speaker 1>whenever you want so you can go and you know,

0:35:41.760 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 1>make a snack or go to the bathroom or whatever,

0:35:43.719 --> 0:35:45.520
<v Speaker 1>and you're not missing anything. You don't have to come

0:35:45.520 --> 0:35:48.399
<v Speaker 1>back and say, what's happened? Why is she talking to him? Now?

0:35:48.640 --> 0:35:50.920
<v Speaker 1>You don't have to do any of those things. Um,

0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:54.040
<v Speaker 1>but it's you lose so much, I mean just in

0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:58.160
<v Speaker 1>the scale, the scope, especially for those those special effects

0:35:58.280 --> 0:36:03.160
<v Speaker 1>heavy films, and you lose that that feeling of sitting

0:36:03.320 --> 0:36:06.560
<v Speaker 1>in a room with people, most of whom you don't know,

0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:09.760
<v Speaker 1>and you're all experiencing the same thing and all having

0:36:10.320 --> 0:36:14.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, these very human reactions. We we talked about

0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:18.239
<v Speaker 1>on Business on the Brink, how the millennial generation is

0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:23.480
<v Speaker 1>much more focused on experience and things, yeah, than things,

0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:27.520
<v Speaker 1>And I feel like this is one that is an experience.

0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:29.759
<v Speaker 1>You know. So I know that movie theaters have been

0:36:29.800 --> 0:36:32.919
<v Speaker 1>declining for a while, but I really hope we find

0:36:32.920 --> 0:36:34.680
<v Speaker 1>a way to pivot back and make it work because

0:36:34.920 --> 0:36:36.439
<v Speaker 1>and there are a lot of other things we didn't

0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:39.080
<v Speaker 1>really touch on here. We're kind of out of time,

0:36:39.120 --> 0:36:43.720
<v Speaker 1>but there's a there's a very complicated relationship between movie

0:36:43.760 --> 0:36:47.200
<v Speaker 1>studios and cable companies because a lot of those have

0:36:47.360 --> 0:36:50.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of merged together. You know, we mentioned Universal, they're

0:36:50.760 --> 0:36:54.160
<v Speaker 1>part of NBC, which means if they wanted to, they

0:36:54.160 --> 0:36:58.200
<v Speaker 1>could use Peacock, the streaming service for NBC in a

0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:02.399
<v Speaker 1>way very similar to the way Warner is using HBO Max. Right,

0:37:02.440 --> 0:37:05.879
<v Speaker 1>we could start seeing more fragmentation like that, where we're

0:37:05.880 --> 0:37:11.080
<v Speaker 1>going to see more and more subscription based services taking

0:37:11.120 --> 0:37:14.160
<v Speaker 1>the place of things like the theatrical experience. That could

0:37:14.200 --> 0:37:17.440
<v Speaker 1>be a future. It's not one I particularly want to see.

0:37:18.040 --> 0:37:21.920
<v Speaker 1>But uh, this this is complicated stuff because those companies

0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:26.600
<v Speaker 1>have all kind of merged into these mega communications and

0:37:26.719 --> 0:37:31.040
<v Speaker 1>entertainment companies. And and it's funny to me because this

0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:33.040
<v Speaker 1>is the same sort of thing that the US government

0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:38.640
<v Speaker 1>previously attempted to prevent, Like there were rules in place

0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:41.480
<v Speaker 1>where movie studios would not be allowed to own chains

0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:45.600
<v Speaker 1>of theaters because it was anti competitive. But now we're

0:37:45.600 --> 0:37:47.839
<v Speaker 1>seeing that exact same thing play out. Is just not

0:37:48.000 --> 0:37:51.560
<v Speaker 1>movie theaters, it's in streaming services because it's cable companies

0:37:51.680 --> 0:37:53.759
<v Speaker 1>and and there was no one to step in the

0:37:53.840 --> 0:38:00.319
<v Speaker 1>way of any of that. Yeah. Yeah, But unfortunately we're

0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:02.440
<v Speaker 1>out of time, so we can't dive further into that today.

0:38:02.920 --> 0:38:06.480
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<v Speaker 1>a Sonic the Hedgehog movie, and we're about to have

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<v Speaker 1>a June movie. Look, I know they're both really old properties.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about Sonic on business in the brink and June.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember when I first learned about it because

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<v Speaker 1>it was around, it's been around forever, not forever, but

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<v Speaker 1>for a while. Um, but they're they're new again. So

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted okay, I wanted to pick things that were

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<v Speaker 1>relevant currently. Okay, so uh, we would typically go do

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<v Speaker 1>a rundown on what these are. So Dune being a

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<v Speaker 1>famous science fiction uh epic series at this point Frank

0:41:13.200 --> 0:41:17.040
<v Speaker 1>Herbert creating it, and it's a a a series that

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<v Speaker 1>begins with a character who inherits his father's legacy and

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<v Speaker 1>his father himself has been essentially punished by being sent

0:41:29.239 --> 0:41:34.320
<v Speaker 1>to lord over a desert planet called Aracus. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's complicated politics and mythology. It's got this mixture of

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<v Speaker 1>mysticism and science fiction mobile sarlax essentially yeah. Yeah. Sand

0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:49.360
<v Speaker 1>words being the big famous image that you see, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's influenced tons of stuff. It's been adapted into films

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<v Speaker 1>and mini series before. The film often gets a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of criticism. The original movie gets a lot of criticism,

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<v Speaker 1>partly because a lot of the stuff that happens in

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<v Speaker 1>the book has characters who are are thinking things through.

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<v Speaker 1>So how do you portray that when it's a movie,

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<v Speaker 1>because you can't, like you could try and create dialogue,

0:42:16.520 --> 0:42:21.480
<v Speaker 1>but that gets very artificial very quickly, so so there

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<v Speaker 1>was a lot of voiceovers. There's a lot of voiceovers also.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, as as an actor, I'm often told it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's what you think between the lines that sells it.

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<v Speaker 1>But you get tired of watching that much thinking yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>You'd have characters essentially stop what they're doing for like

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<v Speaker 1>forty five seconds so that this monologue could be performed

0:42:42.520 --> 0:42:45.560
<v Speaker 1>via voiceover while they were staring out at nothing. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you do you like Dune? I do I do like Dune? Um?

0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:52.399
<v Speaker 1>You know it's I'm not a I'm not a die

0:42:52.480 --> 0:42:55.200
<v Speaker 1>hard Dune fan, but that's because when I was growing up,

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<v Speaker 1>I I lean more towards fantasy than science fiction. The

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<v Speaker 1>two were always grouped together in bookstores, but I was

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<v Speaker 1>more of a fantasy guy. So again, token, I mean,

0:43:06.520 --> 0:43:10.239
<v Speaker 1>I've got the token tattoo, etcetera, etcetera. But I have

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<v Speaker 1>an appreciation for done, and there is a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>fantasy in Dune as well. Like I think of it

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<v Speaker 1>as science fiction, but if you actually read through it,

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of fantastical elements, things, things that

0:43:23.560 --> 0:43:27.680
<v Speaker 1>things that almost range towards magical. Um with that the

0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:32.759
<v Speaker 1>way those those that world plays out. Or are you

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<v Speaker 1>are you a big fan of Dune? I am so.

0:43:36.840 --> 0:43:38.840
<v Speaker 1>I watched I watched the original movie. That was my

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<v Speaker 1>intro to it. I will just say way back when. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but I like it. I do like this story. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>very excited about the new movie. It looks like it

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<v Speaker 1>holds pretty true to the book, which is something we've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about in past podcasts by saying that five times

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<v Speaker 1>fast or just once for me? Yeah, yeah, for me

0:43:57.160 --> 0:44:00.919
<v Speaker 1>obviously too. Or I'm sure we'll talk about it again

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<v Speaker 1>in the future as well, because it's it's something that

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<v Speaker 1>constantly comes up in the geek sphere, right right, How

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<v Speaker 1>do you how do you adapt things that were in

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<v Speaker 1>one medium for another, and how do you satisfy not

0:44:13.680 --> 0:44:16.759
<v Speaker 1>just the fans of the original, but how do you

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<v Speaker 1>bring new fans in who are unfamiliar with the stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>This is really we will do episodes where we dive

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<v Speaker 1>into that because that is a big, heavy, like complicated topic. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so so I am. And I don't mind. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>mind when movies veer from the books. Because sometimes they

0:44:34.520 --> 0:44:38.000
<v Speaker 1>need to. But as you said, like with the thinking, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I am a fan of Dune, I am more of

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<v Speaker 1>a fan of Sonic The Hedgehog movie, Holy Cow, the game.

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<v Speaker 1>The game, I haven't full disclosure, I haven't seen the movie.

0:44:49.760 --> 0:44:53.080
<v Speaker 1>It actually got better reviews than I expected it to them.

0:44:53.120 --> 0:44:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Bam boys had some interesting, funny things to say about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they said it on The Besties, though I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it was I would ad. I don't recall.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not one caught up on on their series, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't recall them talking about it. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was the Best Ties, um, just Justin and Griffin. But yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, I saw I also have not seen it

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<v Speaker 1>full disclosure, but I've seen reviews about that. But we

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<v Speaker 1>were really basing it more on Sonic the Hedgehog, the

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<v Speaker 1>character in general, and yeah, it's a game series, it's

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<v Speaker 1>been around for many years out of Sega, and of

0:45:31.719 --> 0:45:36.040
<v Speaker 1>course he Sonic was a direct response to to Mario

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<v Speaker 1>kind of and give him a literal run for his money. Yeah,

0:45:39.640 --> 0:45:43.280
<v Speaker 1>they needed they needed, they needed to have a a

0:45:43.400 --> 0:45:48.200
<v Speaker 1>video game iconic character to help the Sega brand, and

0:45:48.480 --> 0:45:51.600
<v Speaker 1>Sonic ended up being it a blue hedgehog who runs

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<v Speaker 1>really fast and has a perpetual arch nemesis in the

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<v Speaker 1>form of Dr Egmund, who who turns poor little, cute

0:46:00.360 --> 0:46:06.279
<v Speaker 1>little animals into robots. Yeah. Yeah, it's actually when you

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually when you really look at at the what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on in Sonic that you realize, like, wow, this

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<v Speaker 1>is like some Cronenberg level horror stuff going on here.

0:46:17.840 --> 0:46:21.239
<v Speaker 1>Don't say that I don't like horror. But the thing

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<v Speaker 1>I like about Sonic is because you spin and then

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<v Speaker 1>you just spin as a as as the character. And

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<v Speaker 1>it is certainly a difficult game, especially when you get

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<v Speaker 1>to the higher levels. But I I am horrible at

0:46:34.000 --> 0:46:36.680
<v Speaker 1>jumping from platform into platform like you do with Mario,

0:46:36.880 --> 0:46:39.440
<v Speaker 1>and I like Mario, but you can skip a whole

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of that. If you're good at Sonic. You just

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<v Speaker 1>spin right over it and then you're at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the level. So yeah, I am also not particularly

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<v Speaker 1>strong at platformers. So while I think some people might

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<v Speaker 1>view this, at least the early Sonic games as being

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<v Speaker 1>a platform er with training wheels, I don't mind having

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<v Speaker 1>training wheels if it means I get to learn how

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<v Speaker 1>to play. Uh So, um, I have a pitch for

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<v Speaker 1>Sonic Hedgehog meats Doune You're ready, I actually wrote this

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<v Speaker 1>one down. Here we go. So Sonic Atreyades is a

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<v Speaker 1>young hedgehog noble who gets plopped down on the planet

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<v Speaker 1>Aracus while he's enjoying a spicy chili dog boosted by

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of milange in the chili spice. An armed

0:47:22.680 --> 0:47:26.680
<v Speaker 1>force under the command of the evil baron doctor Vladimir

0:47:26.760 --> 0:47:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Robotnick Sonics family is whited out, but Sonic escapes into

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<v Speaker 1>the desert wasteland when he discovers that the milange has

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<v Speaker 1>given him the ability, nay the compulsion, to run fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Gotta go fast, he says a lot, and he runs

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<v Speaker 1>out from the dangers of a military takeover into the

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<v Speaker 1>dangers of a desert filled with sandworms, and there he

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<v Speaker 1>discovers a brave indigenous force and a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>sandworms and a love of gold rings. For some reason,

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<v Speaker 1>I still need to work that part out the gold

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<v Speaker 1>rings I'm having I'm having trouble working the gold rings

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<v Speaker 1>in Okay, Okay, So that, um that brings me to

0:48:06.680 --> 0:48:11.040
<v Speaker 1>my pitch, which flat out not as good as yours.

0:48:11.280 --> 0:48:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Way to mesh all those characters together. But okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>polish Radius, who's the main character of Dude is with

0:48:18.520 --> 0:48:21.040
<v Speaker 1>the Benny Jester and he has to stick his hand

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<v Speaker 1>and essentially what I remember as being the same as

0:48:24.520 --> 0:48:29.200
<v Speaker 1>the boo box from Hook the pain box or you

0:48:29.239 --> 0:48:31.239
<v Speaker 1>don't know what's in it, And he pulls out his

0:48:31.320 --> 0:48:34.440
<v Speaker 1>hand and on each finger is a gold ring, and

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, there is a rumble under the

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<v Speaker 1>ground as these five gold rings called this horrible creature

0:48:42.920 --> 0:48:46.080
<v Speaker 1>to him, and you just see the sand he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>staring out into the desert as the sand is flying everywhere,

0:48:49.520 --> 0:48:52.680
<v Speaker 1>and mountains crumble on either side of this huge mound

0:48:52.760 --> 0:48:57.160
<v Speaker 1>that is spinning towards him, and out pops this giant

0:48:57.480 --> 0:49:03.719
<v Speaker 1>rays or toothed blue giant hedgehog whose nose could swallow you.

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<v Speaker 1>Not his mouth, no, his nose because he is that big.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I'm sad, I'm yelling into the microphone. Sorry, everybody.

0:49:10.360 --> 0:49:13.680
<v Speaker 1>And then he asked for a chili dog. So so

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<v Speaker 1>in your version of Dune Meats Sonic, the hedgehog Sonic

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<v Speaker 1>is a sandworm. He is, and it's very anti climatic,

0:49:20.200 --> 0:49:23.919
<v Speaker 1>that's but it's really exciting, like I I legit had

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<v Speaker 1>not thought of that as a possibility, you know. That's

0:49:27.360 --> 0:49:29.440
<v Speaker 1>that's honestly what made me want to do. I was like,

0:49:29.880 --> 0:49:34.200
<v Speaker 1>Sonic was recent Une, so I could be a sandworm.

0:49:34.239 --> 0:49:36.080
<v Speaker 1>I like that. You made the chili dog the spice.

0:49:36.160 --> 0:49:38.479
<v Speaker 1>I may have I might have stole that a little

0:49:38.520 --> 0:49:42.440
<v Speaker 1>bit from you, but we didn't. We didn't even mention that.

0:49:42.480 --> 0:49:46.279
<v Speaker 1>Then in Dune there's this um the substance on Aracus

0:49:46.360 --> 0:49:50.799
<v Speaker 1>in particular, called spice, which can be refined into a

0:49:50.960 --> 0:49:58.040
<v Speaker 1>drug called milange, and that has different different effects on people.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's why I was like, what if the milange

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<v Speaker 1>chili dog is what gives Sonic the ability to run fast? Yes? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, which I think was more of a thing

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<v Speaker 1>in the cartoon and maybe the movie than the video game.

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<v Speaker 1>By the cartoon was a lot of fun, you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's old. I don't know if it holds up,

0:50:19.520 --> 0:50:21.080
<v Speaker 1>but it was a lot of fun at the time. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's kind of an example of the sort of

0:50:23.800 --> 0:50:27.400
<v Speaker 1>mashups will do. We did one, uh did we? Was

0:50:27.440 --> 0:50:29.879
<v Speaker 1>that just a test where we did Willy Wonka and

0:50:30.320 --> 0:50:34.320
<v Speaker 1>the Candy Man and that one turned out great? Well,

0:50:34.480 --> 0:50:36.839
<v Speaker 1>maybe we'll be able to revisit it. Because while those

0:50:36.880 --> 0:50:38.560
<v Speaker 1>things were supposed to come out at least I think

0:50:38.560 --> 0:50:41.840
<v Speaker 1>Candyman was supposed to come out around this time, and

0:50:41.880 --> 0:50:46.799
<v Speaker 1>I was hoping to get it out for Halloween. Um,

0:50:46.840 --> 0:50:50.040
<v Speaker 1>because of pandemic, everything's been pushed back. So the news

0:50:50.040 --> 0:50:52.719
<v Speaker 1>at the time was that, uh, as we all know,

0:50:52.800 --> 0:50:54.840
<v Speaker 1>and we'll definitely talk about this more in depth in

0:50:54.880 --> 0:50:57.640
<v Speaker 1>the future, Jordan Peel is remaking the old horror movie

0:50:57.640 --> 0:51:00.920
<v Speaker 1>candy Man um to be a little bit more poignant

0:51:00.880 --> 0:51:03.000
<v Speaker 1>to today's issues, although it was at the time as

0:51:03.000 --> 0:51:07.440
<v Speaker 1>well just actually really yeah really a kind of a

0:51:07.560 --> 0:51:11.040
<v Speaker 1>forward thinking horror movie at the time. Yeah, so he's

0:51:11.120 --> 0:51:12.920
<v Speaker 1>but he's bringing it back around from all of the

0:51:13.000 --> 0:51:17.640
<v Speaker 1>sequels to its original form. And then uh, also at

0:51:17.640 --> 0:51:20.480
<v Speaker 1>the time, it had been announced that Netflix was going

0:51:20.520 --> 0:51:25.520
<v Speaker 1>to do a role doll series, so hence that mash up,

0:51:25.560 --> 0:51:27.520
<v Speaker 1>we might bring it back because neither of those things

0:51:27.520 --> 0:51:32.160
<v Speaker 1>have actually come out yet, so uh, I don't want

0:51:32.200 --> 0:51:34.960
<v Speaker 1>to want to spoil what we came up with for that. Um,

0:51:35.000 --> 0:51:39.080
<v Speaker 1>but this next part is new because when we were

0:51:39.120 --> 0:51:43.200
<v Speaker 1>doing the mashups as movies as site gags, we couldn't

0:51:43.200 --> 0:51:45.520
<v Speaker 1>ask you guys, what what you would have done in

0:51:45.520 --> 0:51:47.520
<v Speaker 1>the mash up. But if you just listen to Sonic

0:51:47.600 --> 0:51:52.319
<v Speaker 1>and Dune and we're like, huh, I think I could

0:51:52.360 --> 0:51:58.560
<v Speaker 1>do better, which which we do not dispute. Yeah, right us,

0:51:58.640 --> 0:52:00.600
<v Speaker 1>and tell us how you would mash is two up.

0:52:00.640 --> 0:52:02.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean we might even read it on the air,

0:52:02.920 --> 0:52:04.960
<v Speaker 1>as opposed to just reading it and going dang, why

0:52:04.960 --> 0:52:08.640
<v Speaker 1>are they so creative? Right? And also the same thing

0:52:08.760 --> 0:52:12.359
<v Speaker 1>is true for if there are either discussion topics within

0:52:12.360 --> 0:52:16.080
<v Speaker 1>the Gego sphere that you feel really merit a kind

0:52:16.080 --> 0:52:20.799
<v Speaker 1>of you know, conversation and maybe debate. Uh, it could

0:52:20.800 --> 0:52:23.920
<v Speaker 1>be anything within the Gego sphere, everything from you know,

0:52:24.000 --> 0:52:27.760
<v Speaker 1>the adaptations. We've got a planned episode coming up about

0:52:28.280 --> 0:52:31.759
<v Speaker 1>the use of nostalgia as a jumping off point that

0:52:31.840 --> 0:52:33.640
<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of feelings about and a lot

0:52:33.680 --> 0:52:35.880
<v Speaker 1>of thoughts about. I think it will be a multipart

0:52:35.880 --> 0:52:38.440
<v Speaker 1>discussion because there's lots of facets to it as well.

0:52:38.480 --> 0:52:42.279
<v Speaker 1>That's true. And then there's also if you have suggestions

0:52:42.280 --> 0:52:44.840
<v Speaker 1>for mashups those that's another great thing to get in

0:52:44.880 --> 0:52:47.880
<v Speaker 1>touch with us about. Like if there's two properties that

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<v Speaker 1>with us right now, while we still establish our presence

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<v Speaker 1>We also have an Instagram account, so you can message

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<v Speaker 1>us there as well. Yes, and we are also on Facebook,

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<v Speaker 1>there as well. That one, that one is all up

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<v Speaker 1>to Ariel because I ditched it all the social media's.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing or about at the large new Drunk Collider

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<v Speaker 1>podcast that we didn't talk about that I do want

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<v Speaker 1>to end with is that, you know, geeks are very

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<v Speaker 1>very passionate, and you can be opinionated about something and

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<v Speaker 1>still be kind to people who have different opinions in you,

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<v Speaker 1>so be nice. We're We're open to even even if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to send constructive criticism, We're open to that.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, yeah, yeah. Our Our opinion is that that

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<v Speaker 1>we can love something, we can critique. That's something, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's no need to get mean about it. And that Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if I get into a conversation with someone

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<v Speaker 1>who genuinely loves the Star Wars prequels, uh, I can

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<v Speaker 1>be of the right temperament to accept that they hold

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<v Speaker 1>an opinion that is very different from mine, but that

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<v Speaker 1>does not make that opinion less valid even though they're wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to talk about that in an upcoming episode,

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<v Speaker 1>so don't spoil it yet, Jonathan, Okay, fair, fair enough.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think. I don't think I tipped my hand

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<v Speaker 1>too much about my future. Now you didn't, you didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we get into territory where we're a two

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<v Speaker 1>hour episode again, I think we should sign off for

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<v Speaker 1>this one. So yes, we look forward to conversing with

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<v Speaker 1>you about all things geeky in the future. We will

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be bringing you fresh new geekiness. So we look

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<v Speaker 1>forward to chatting with you again really soon. Yes, until

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<v Speaker 1>next time. I have been a real casting and I

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<v Speaker 1>am Let me check my notes. Jonathan Strickland. The Large

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