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Speaker 2: Today, we got a special man. Man. They don't get

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Speaker 2: no bigger than today. Man. We got the the one

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Speaker 2: and only Stephen A. Smith today. Man. I look at

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Speaker 2: him as kind of the Michael Jordan of this ship.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. He is the pinnacle. He

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Speaker 3: So yash, let's skip this ship.

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Speaker 2: We came in here today. Hey, look this certified.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: You can't come here with the whole. You know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, How you doing? How you living good?

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Speaker 1: How you doing? Was saying what you do? He said, Oh,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna love and you interviewing him? I said, no,

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Speaker 1: he interviewing me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're coming down here.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get grilled today.

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Speaker 2: I saw you this morning. How you doing? Looking good

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Speaker 2: is my favorite color?

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Speaker 1: Man. I got to get ship.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Oh yeah, yo, I saw

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Speaker 2: that picture they put up. You weren't feeling that that

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Speaker 2: was what forty pounds? I heard you yesterday they gave you.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah yesterday, said well, first of all, take that

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Speaker 2: I saw it here.

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Speaker 5: Bro, I'm weighed I'm fifty six. Ye holy I lose

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Speaker 5: my weight and unless it get myself. Ah, you're trying

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Speaker 5: to make me look like I looked at you.

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Speaker 1: I can't heard it.

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Speaker 2: Just Totle studio, Kevin Man, big homie. Yeah, you're doing man. Man,

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Speaker 2: it's all the joint, man, It's what we make it

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Speaker 2: happen at Mann.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: This this, this was the studio stuff. I know you

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Speaker 2: used to that pots. You know what I'm saying, Welcome

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Speaker 2: to the hood.

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Speaker 1: This is nice. I'm saying, this is nice. I'm saying

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Speaker 1: exactly the hood. No, no, no, no. At the drive.

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Speaker 1: You got to get you out here a mountain.

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Speaker 2: Lion, even on a mountain rain. This all the comference

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Speaker 2: room right here.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Been here for like maybe three years, found this, man, This.

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Speaker 2: Is like a down the rough man.

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Speaker 1: Far do you live from here?

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Speaker 2: I lived probably twenty minutes from here. Okay, Calabasas Malibu

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Speaker 2: is very close. I did not want to jump in

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Speaker 2: I'll have to go all the way over. But like myself,

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Speaker 2: it was just you know what I'm saying, and then

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So I didn't want to do

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Speaker 2: none of that. So this is like a diamond of

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Speaker 2: Ralphie found it.

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Speaker 1: It works.

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Speaker 2: Come check yourself. Look, this is a viewing role. This

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Speaker 2: is all styling for hair and all that makeup and stuff.

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Speaker 2: This if we've got premier. I did like a little

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Speaker 2: small premieres in here. It's cool, it ain't. You know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying, How you got like another? When I

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Speaker 2: come to Jersey, one of the things I want to do,

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Speaker 2: I want to come check your joint. I know your joint.

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Speaker 2: You got it all up and going.

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Speaker 5: Well, yes, but you know I'm looking for another crib

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Speaker 5: in Florida, so I might you know, I made about

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Speaker 1: Might be in Florida. Damn for good, for good, I

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Speaker 5: Yeah, too much, it's too much.

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Speaker 2: I was about to say, damn yeah, you wouln't like,

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Speaker 2: this right here. Then that's what we shoot at. White

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Speaker 2: So it's you know, it's big enough to get things done.

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Speaker 2: It's big enough. It don't have to be so posh.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You know, editing and everything.

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Speaker 1: Said, if you go to if you go to Hollywood,

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Speaker 2: They're subsidizing a bunch of the work to gods like us.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 2: Watch your step. These are editing days up here. So

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Speaker 2: we have editing up here. I'm gonna throw a little

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Speaker 5: All right, yeah, yeah, my daughter's turned to sixteen August

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's what something? No party? She said, that's a gift.

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Speaker 1: She said, that's a gift. I want to call. And

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Speaker 2: To do that yesterday. I know that walking ahead okay,

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, this is us Okay, Oh I like this.

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Speaker 1: This is special right here, somewhere, this is special right here.

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Speaker 2: Do something.

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Speaker 1: I gotta give it to you. I gotta give it

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Speaker 2: This is nice, this is real nice. Welcome to certified.

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Speaker 2: We got Stephen a certified. You feel me? How you

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Speaker 2: know you're moving up right here? How you been man?

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Speaker 1: I'm good man.

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Speaker 2: It's good to see you.

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 2: It's good to see you.

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Speaker 1: Man. You know it crazy busy these days. E. I

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Speaker 1: gotta work. Yeah, I got worse. Hell, I couldn't play.

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Speaker 2: Were you killing it? Bro?

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Speaker 1: I bet not how to do something?

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Speaker 5: Bro?

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Speaker 1: So I do what I gotta do. That's how. That's

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Speaker 2: I want to give you your flowers, man, like Bro,

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Speaker 2: You're the Michael Jordan of this ship. Bro.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Bro, and I.

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Speaker 2: Love the I'm watching how you have dictated the culture

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Speaker 2: of journalists and analysts, and I'm watching how you set

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Speaker 2: I think my first question is where does that come from? Like?

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Speaker 2: Where does where does who you've become actually come from?

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Speaker 5: You know, when I think about my work ethic, it

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Speaker 5: definitely come from moms. Mom was a hard worker. My

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Speaker 5: mom and dad were married for sixty years. They should

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Speaker 5: have been divorced for fifty. Oh wow, you know relationship

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Speaker 5: wasn't the greatest. You know, not gonna dog Cam. I

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Speaker 5: don't hesitate to say that is because that's how I

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Speaker 2: How many sisters you got four? Four older sisters.

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Speaker 5: I had an older brother he passed away to car

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Speaker 5: accident in nineteen ninety two, but I got my four

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm the youngest of six.

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Speaker 2: I just about this. Wow, So you're basically only the

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Speaker 2: and two sisters. That's right. I like to think that

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Speaker 2: where do you fall in in the line of the six?

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Speaker 5: Like I said, I'm the youngest of you're the youngest.

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Speaker 5: And the other thing is is that again, when I

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Speaker 1: When I talk about my mouth, dad came from growing

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Speaker 2: Know, on the block every day.

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Speaker 5: You're on the block every day. Got cast somebody saying something,

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Speaker 5: the whole nine. You got all of that going on.

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Speaker 5: that terrain, get yourself out of trouble, even though you

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Speaker 1: You got all of that shit going on.

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Speaker 5: And so for me, I remember growing up, man, I

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Speaker 5: was surrounded by black musclms.

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Speaker 1: You're talking about about the whole.

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Speaker 5: As Law community in Brooklyn, New York, the five percenters,

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Speaker 5: you know, the nation. I mean all of these cats,

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Speaker 5: and they let me know. They would sit up there

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Speaker 5: could be about basketball, it could be about life or whatever.

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Speaker 5: And when they listen to me talk, they said, promise

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Speaker 1: You're gonna go out.

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Speaker 5: There and you're gonna be ready to be that rebel

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Speaker 2: Don't like it.

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Speaker 5: When you get ten eleven years ten eleven years old,

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Speaker 5: and it was like, you know, they were coming to

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Speaker 1: It could be anything, Yo, Steve thata, what you got

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Speaker 5: I'm stuttering? What you're studying for?

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Speaker 1: If I was passive, what you passive for? Speak? Because

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Speaker 5: What you're gonna say, You're gonna punk out what you're

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Speaker 5: where when I speak, I would be speaking to the masters.

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Speaker 5: Didn't quite know how that was gonna happen or anything

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Speaker 5: were telling me that, and they were like, you got

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Speaker 5: to be brave.

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Speaker 1: You got to have courage.

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Speaker 5: If you wrong, say you wrong, but if you right,

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Speaker 5: don't move, and so stand on it. And so that's

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Speaker 5: the way I've always been, plain and simple wow.

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Speaker 2: And that's kind of the example of Queens. That's kind

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Speaker 2: you got you know whatever, bro where you're in, you

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Speaker 2: get in the form.

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Speaker 5: Of that that's right, right, And you gotta also know

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Speaker 5: you gotta also know how to flow.

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Speaker 1: Can't flow the same way. You know, you're in the Bronx.

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Speaker 5: Bronx different in Brooklyn, Brooklyn different than stat Nyland, Statnyland,

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Speaker 5: I mean, certain parts of the Bronx is different to

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Speaker 5: and all this other stuff, it's different spots. Hollis Qui's a

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Speaker 5: Hollis House is nice. Go five minutes away the cave

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Speaker 5: your Heights. That's where the honeies were used to see.

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Speaker 5: You go to Lawrelton. It was a couple of houndies there,

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Speaker 1: Get some of their honeies.

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Speaker 5: So they had attitude with you for that. You have

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Speaker 2: What are some of your journalists influences? Who people that

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Speaker 5: Is ample idolized Howard Cosell growing up, that was that

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Speaker 5: Brian Gumbel is one of the greatest journalists who have

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Speaker 5: Do you know that in two thousand and three when

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Speaker 2: Could have been a data we see almost like a

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Speaker 5: All they got to do is called me, right, I'll

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Speaker 5: as an annual salary. And so when they see that,

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00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,520
Speaker 5: they following the money and they really not trying to

442
00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,560
Speaker 5: listen to some old head talk to them about what

443
00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,000
Speaker 5: they should doing, how they should do it, because the

444
00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,400
Speaker 5: mentality is as times have changed.

445
00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,640
Speaker 1: The problem is not you think.

446
00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,360
Speaker 5: In that way, because any of us would think that way.

447
00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:09,880
Speaker 1: It's the way you convey it.

448
00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,439
Speaker 5: If you convey it in a fashion that comes across

449
00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,920
Speaker 5: as dismissive and disrespectful. How's the older folk gonna take

450
00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,720
Speaker 5: that because we respected our elders.

451
00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,199
Speaker 1: No doubt you under saying that.

452
00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,200
Speaker 5: Man, I like what you said or whatever, but damn

453
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,440
Speaker 5: if it made sense, it made sense. But more importantly,

454
00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,800
Speaker 5: we ain't looking at you as telling us something because

455
00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,640
Speaker 5: you're trying to belittle us. We looking at you telling

456
00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,880
Speaker 5: us something because you're trying to educate us. Because as

457
00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,200
Speaker 5: an old person and an older person, you recognize the

458
00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,919
Speaker 5: fact that you're your best days are behind you. You

459
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,720
Speaker 5: understand and you faded into that twilight and you get

460
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,640
Speaker 5: to a point where there's no success without a successor.

461
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,400
Speaker 5: So you're looking for people to espouse that knowledge, to

462
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,200
Speaker 5: extend it so it can be carried on, and that's

463
00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 5: something that's should be admired. Unfortunately, we don't see a

464
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,160
Speaker 5: lot of young cats admiring it. They're resistant to it

465
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,359
Speaker 5: and they resent it, and that's the problem.

466
00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,240
Speaker 2: I don't think young I don't think young people know

467
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,480
Speaker 2: how to initiate. Though we're older, we've been through multiple

468
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 2: times where you have to initiate, you have to be aggressible.

469
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 2: I think young people know how to initiate, I say this,

470
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,240
Speaker 2: what is your what's your view on the young generation?

471
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 5: First of all, I'm very proud of them, believe it

472
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:20,520
Speaker 5: or not, ballsy, courage be on yourself, innovative, courageous. And

473
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 5: I said of courageous already all of that stuff is applicable,

474
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,879
Speaker 5: absolutely true.

475
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,640
Speaker 1: I just need them to be tougher mentally. Mhm.

476
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:34,919
Speaker 5: Somebody giving you constructive criticism does not equal condemnation. It

477
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,719
Speaker 5: means in the moment, this is what you did in

478
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 5: the moment, this didn't work, Suck it up, deal with it.

479
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,639
Speaker 5: And you see a lot of these young cats, particularly

480
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,119
Speaker 5: professional athletes, that don't absorb to all of that, and

481
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 5: they're not telling the truth always as to why they

482
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 5: feel that way. The real truth is you've learned to

483
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 5: monetize everything, so anything that gets attached to your name

484
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 5: you view as potentially compromising you brand, and that's problematic

485
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,959
Speaker 5: for you. And you're looking at it that way, and

486
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 5: I'm like, tell the truth, that's what you're thinking, because

487
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 5: guess what, I don't want to hear about you bitching

488
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 5: about how y'all it might compromise my brand.

489
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 1: Today.

490
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 5: You played on Thursday, you play like shit, But Saturday

491
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 5: and Saturday you might drive fifty what you worried about

492
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 5: it for, you got another game to go out there,

493
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 5: You got another day to go out there.

494
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 1: Just like that.

495
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,159
Speaker 5: As long as the person is willing to keep the

496
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 5: same energy in praising you as they were in condemning

497
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 5: what you may have done.

498
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 1: That particular day, you should be good.

499
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 5: And unfortunately you got a lot of casts that can't

500
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 5: take that. They really really can't. And that's where you

501
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 5: see the divide existing. And it's not just with the

502
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 5: young and the old. It's with professional journalists compared to

503
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,400
Speaker 5: professional athletes. It's with pundits and commentators compared to other

504
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 5: casts that are doing what they're doing even though once

505
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 5: they finished they trying to come and do that.

506
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 1: You look at Lebron James for example.

507
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,639
Speaker 5: Lebron Ja's got over one hundred million subscribers with social media.

508
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 1: Damn, what do you need to do a podcast?

509
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,959
Speaker 5: But you're still doing one? Eat you still doing one

510
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 5: at you because you want a voice. You got the

511
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 5: shop wow, because you want a voice. You see what

512
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 5: I'm saying, so you can have all the followers in

513
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 5: the world. But ultimately what you're saying is you want

514
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 5: to be heard. You just want to be heard the

515
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 5: way you want to be hurt. And what you're thinking

516
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 5: about is what you want to disseminate and convey as

517
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 5: opposed to how shit is being received.

518
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 1: And I'm the person.

519
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 5: I'm one of those dudes that I pay attention to

520
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 5: both what's being put out there but also how it's

521
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:28,360
Speaker 5: being received.

522
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 2: It's almost like a balance. Yeah, I got a great story,

523
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 2: Yeah that I was in there. I was in Chicago,

524
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,640
Speaker 2: and rest in peace to my dog block Big Mike. Right,

525
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 2: he lived in this project called the Village and this

526
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,640
Speaker 2: one way in the village and it's one way out

527
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 2: the village. I'm from a lower neighborhood, so they already know.

528
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 2: But it's cool. They let us come in here. You

529
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 2: got to get permission to come in. And who I'm

530
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 2: saying this to speed up to say that situation went

531
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 2: on when my homeboys fouled one of the guys up

532
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 2: in here. A thousand guys run down here. If you

533
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 2: know the village is you know what I'm saying, Yeah, bro,

534
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 2: I have to finesse my way to be able to

535
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 2: get us out of there. The respects of what I

536
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 2: have from everybody out here it sounds like when it

537
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,959
Speaker 2: comes to the industry, especially with players that don't want

538
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 2: to really lock in accountability, don't want to don't want

539
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 2: none of none of accountability. And where you have layers

540
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 2: to the truth and your brain is how you make

541
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 2: your money. How how how I don't want to say,

542
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 2: I don't want to come off like I'm assuming, But

543
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 2: how careful are you with that balance of exposing talking

544
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 2: about what you know or what you have, and then

545
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 2: knowing that that relationship and that network is very sensitive

546
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 2: off that information that you have.

547
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 5: Oh it's easy for me, bro I'm from the streets cold.

548
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 5: Your personal life's your business. Don't break no laws, don't

549
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 5: get no police bloggers, don't have everybody talking about something

550
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 5: to the point where I got to talk about it

551
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 5: too because the public consumptions.

552
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,919
Speaker 1: But that's your business outside of that.

553
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 5: Now, what you do in a public platform, it's my business,

554
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 5: it's everybody's business.

555
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: But what you do privately is your business.

556
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 5: And so you know, one of the things that anybody

557
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,679
Speaker 5: that knows me in all my years that I've been

558
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 5: in this business, in any of my boys and my family,

559
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 5: anybody that know me know that ain't know how I roll.

560
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: Your personal story is yours to tell your game? Is

561
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:26,640
Speaker 1: that my discretion?

562
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:27,679
Speaker 2: That's everybody.

563
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 5: I'm watching the game. I see what I see, and

564
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 5: that's that. Now, there's been plenty of times that I've

565
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 5: seen and heard what affected your game. I don't go

566
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 5: out and say nothing. I might say something like, you know,

567
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 5: you just didn't seem like yourself.

568
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 1: Ok, you just seem like yourself.

569
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 5: It's my way of letting the player know, like, look, look,

570
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 5: I know, I know, I know, I know what you

571
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 5: You missed something last already.

572
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 1: You have some shit going on last night.

573
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 5: I got you no problem fix it because you blowing

574
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 5: it right.

575
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 1: But I ain't gonna tell what I'm not doing that.

576
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 5: I mean, there's certain things that you got to be

577
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 5: able to sleep at night. And I don't care whether

578
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 5: it's Chicago, it's New York, it's LA. I don't give

579
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 5: a damn what it is. When when I say the streets,

580
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 5: I'm talking about the streets. You know what the code is.

581
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 5: There's certain shit you don't do. You just don't do it.

582
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 5: You know, I've often used this example. You know, I

583
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 5: was around Jay Z on several occage before he got

584
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 5: married to Beyonce. I was around that beautiful woman, Beyonce,

585
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 5: this phenomenal artist who was absolutely dropped there, gorgeous in

586
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 5: a whole biting superstarsy or whatever.

587
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: I never once asked.

588
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 5: Them a single question about each other, not one time.

589
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: If you want to tell me.

590
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,439
Speaker 2: That's inappropriate, though, right, we don't know that.

591
00:26:58,400 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 1: Were you asking for.

592
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 5: But I'm saying so, I'm using an extreme example like

593
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 5: that to point out how you.

594
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 1: Just know and catch you don't know.

595
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 5: You don't need to be around them because they just

596
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 5: ignorant and they don't know. The worst ones, however, are

597
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 5: those who don't care, and they'll do it anyway. It's like,

598
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 5: what are you doing? It's none of your business. If

599
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 5: there's something for you to know, they'll let you know.

600
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: Now you're talking about music, Yeah, man, I got questions,

601
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,479
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying about. I don't got questions.

602
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 5: You know cont I got questions to a basketball player.

603
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: You got tickets. Let's not forget the tickets. Damn it.

604
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 1: I need a pass.

605
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 5: Damn I don't feel like we don't have me going

606
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 5: no damn ticket mass put me on the VRP list.

607
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that we could do.

608
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: But not asking you shit, it's none of you, It's

609
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: none of my business, you know.

610
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 5: And it's like it's just a way of letting people know.

611
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 5: You know what code is, you know what the line is.

612
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 5: You know this just certain things you ain't doing. And

613
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 5: that's why I could be the way that I am.

614
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 5: When when I'm talking about certain things with players or

615
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 5: were getting in beefs and we arguing or whatever, you

616
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 5: see me get pissed and people will talk about, well, you.

617
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 1: Know, you know this cat, that cat don't like you said?

618
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: What fuck told you? I liked that, you see what

619
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying?

620
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 5: Because they being weak about it, It's like, oh, so

621
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 5: you had a bad month. I point out how you

622
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 5: had a bad month. So now what you want to

623
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 5: do is go behind my back and talk about me

624
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 5: like I did something to violate you. When I was

625
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 5: talking about your game. You're given this impression about I

626
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 5: must be this kind of person because I talked about

627
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 5: your game.

628
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: Once you tell them the truth, Once you tell them the truth,

629
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: why don't.

630
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 2: You tell you mad?

631
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, because your ass played like

632
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 5: garbage last month.

633
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: I pointed the shit out. I ain't say why you

634
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: were playing bad. I know why, but I never told why.

635
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: You didn't tell that, didn't you? You see what I'm saying.

636
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 5: All of these kind of things you see cats and

637
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 5: they don't.

638
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: They're not honest.

639
00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 5: About it, which is why my favorite line line. I

640
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 5: always used this, and I've said it in front of everybody.

641
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 5: I've said it in practice, any interview where they asked

642
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 5: me a question about it. I said, we want to

643
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 5: have a conversation about my professionalism, my borrows, my integrity.

644
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: What I've done two or four or get.

645
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 5: Somebody name the time and place, and I'll show up

646
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 5: and bring an audience because I want receipts. He said,

647
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 5: I want people to see how your ass is lying.

648
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 5: I want people to see how you full of want them.

649
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 5: I want them to see it. You understand, I said,

650
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 5: I said, And I remember I said this. I was

651
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 5: doing somebody was interviewing me a couple of weeks ago.

652
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: I said, I've said.

653
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 5: That statement on many occasions. Have you noticed that some

654
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 5: of the dudes that chirped the most have never invited me.

655
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: Where they got podcasts? They got shows. I ain't got

656
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: an your names, they.

657
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 5: Got podcasts, they got shows. See k KG got me here.

658
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 5: I'm saying, KG got me.

659
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 2: They invite me.

660
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Speaker 1: Why you you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: You know why, because KG and I understand. You don't

662
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 5: want them to understand. You want people to believe your

663
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Speaker 5: bullshit because you want to be weak enough to hide

664
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Speaker 5: behind stuff and talk smack.

665
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Speaker 1: I'm right here.

666
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Speaker 5: I'm on I got the number one morning show on television.

667
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Speaker 5: I'm on live ten hours a week. After the ten

668
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Speaker 5: hours a week, I got my Steven A. Smith Show

669
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Speaker 5: podcast where I built my own studio. I'm doing interviews

670
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Speaker 5: all over the place. They got me talking positive. Oh damn,

671
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Speaker 5: you know he going off for the Damns right now.

672
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 5: He's going off on the Republicans right now, and both

673
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Speaker 5: sides call it. I'm like winning where I'll be there.

674
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Speaker 5: I visit, but I'll make time today. You got time tomorrow. Fun,

675
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Speaker 5: let's go, Dear, I said it. How y'all gonna deny it?

676
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Speaker 1: Is it not true? All right?

677
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Speaker 5: And I say stuff like that, and I do that

678
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 5: because I want people to know I'm not crossing lines.

679
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 5: But I'm serious about being mean, and I ain't never

680
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 5: betray who I am and what I stand for, no

681
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 5: matter what people try to portray. And that's what I

682
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Speaker 5: live on.

683
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Speaker 2: Have you ever said something that you thought you put

684
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Speaker 2: too much on it or you went too hard?

685
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Speaker 5: I did, I did, me and Big Dog Glenn Robinson

686
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 5: Definitely I went too far. When Randiers got fired, I

687
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 5: felt he was responsible for that. Randiers is a black man,

688
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 5: was an assistant under Lady Brown, former coach of Ohio State,

689
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 5: and I really, really really had a problem because I

690
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Speaker 5: thought that his behavior with Randy Airs was inconsistent with

691
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 5: what it was with George call or what it would

692
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Speaker 5: have been with Lavy Brown or one of the white coaches.

693
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Speaker 5: Really pissed me off. And when we got into it,

694
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Speaker 5: it got so hostile, spanning months, if not years, that

695
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Speaker 5: it got to a point where people would look at

696
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Speaker 5: us and I had people like walk right in between

697
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Speaker 5: us because they thought something's gonna happen to Obviously, I

698
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 5: can't beat his ass, but I'm just saying to you,

699
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Speaker 5: I wasn't running.

700
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Speaker 1: I felt like that. And then Randier's got to me

701
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Speaker 1: let it go.

702
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 5: Mo Cheeks, gott to me, let it go, you know,

703
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 5: AI and all let it go, Let it go. And

704
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 5: then when I really realized that I'm the professional, I'm

705
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Speaker 5: the journalist. It's my job not to be acting like that.

706
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Speaker 5: It really hit home when I saw his son. His

707
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 5: son was playing in the league and we were in

708
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Speaker 5: Houston and he was walking out and he was like hesitant,

709
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 5: not not rude or anything like that, almost like scared

710
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Speaker 5: to come.

711
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Speaker 1: Across me because of what he thought I would say

712
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Speaker 1: to him or do or whatever.

713
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Speaker 5: And I was like, oh my god, this is terrible.

714
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Speaker 5: And that day I walked up to his son and

715
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 5: I was like, whatever happened with me and your dad,

716
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 5: I was wrong. I don't ever want you to think

717
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 5: that anything that you do, that whatever beef I have

718
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Speaker 5: with him would affect Now I cover you.

719
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Speaker 1: I said, I'm so sorry about that.

720
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Speaker 5: And I said when I said, when I see your dad,

721
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Speaker 5: I never saw him again, but if I saw a

722
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Speaker 5: big dog, ID apologize to him because it's my job

723
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Speaker 5: to be It was I'm the professional, I'm the journalist.

724
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: It was my job to be above all of that.

725
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: And I wasn't.

726
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 5: And I knew that that was that was a big deal,

727
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 5: and that really resonated with me. And then I still

728
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 5: have regrets about, you know, my sound on Kwame Brown

729
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 5: from years ago. You know, because there was no Twitter,

730
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 5: there was no social media. I didn't know fifteen, sixteen,

731
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 5: seventeen years later, they still be playing this stuff, and

732
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Speaker 5: I'm like, damn, you know, my bad. But you know,

733
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 5: I mean, I had to clap back at him a

734
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 5: couple of times because he's getting too ridiculous, you know.

735
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Speaker 5: But in the same breath, I understand where he's coming from,

736
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 5: because you know, that shit stinks when you see somebody

737
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 5: talking about you like that. And so then then I

738
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 5: had to reflect that. Remember years ago, you know, I'm

739
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 5: in Minnesota and my man Big Tickets rolling by in

740
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 5: the hallways, say Stephen. They come in and he's talking

741
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Speaker 5: to me about how I'm talking about Ola with.

742
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: Candy at the time. You know, Michael, Yeah, I did.

743
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,720
Speaker 1: I did. I did, And you were like trying.

744
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 5: You were like chill, you know, you told me and

745
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 5: you told me to chill, and I was like, and

746
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 5: all I could think about, Like you and I never

747
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 5: really talked much over the years. We were always cool

748
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 5: with each other.

749
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Speaker 1: We had mutual friends saying, Mitchell boris my boy. The

750
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: whole bit. Mad love and respect to you.

751
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 5: But what I loved about you most you forced me

752
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 5: to live up to what I proclaim about myself. I

753
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 5: always tell people, look, bro, just talk talk to me.

754
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 5: If I'm wrong, just tell me I'm wrong and tell

755
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 5: me why. You know, if I don't believe it, I'm

756
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 5: gonna tell you conversation. If I do believe it, I'm

757
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 5: gonna I'm gonna change. I'm gonna change that. And I

758
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,280
Speaker 5: was like, this brother is a superstar in this league

759
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 5: and stopped and said, Stephen, they let me holler at you,

760
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 5: let me holler at you. And all I ever said

761
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 5: to myself is when KG see me, I want him

762
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 5: to know I'm somebody that listened because you told me that.

763
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Speaker 1: And I dolled it back big time on all the

764
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: way kid. After that, I dolled it back.

765
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Speaker 5: I appreciate, appreciate that, you know, but I'm just saying,

766
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 5: you didn't have to talk to me.

767
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: You didn't have to talk to me. You know. It's like,

768
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: but you did.

769
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Speaker 5: And it's like you look at these cats like to me,

770
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 5: the Kobe's God rest his soul, Kobe, pick up the phone, Kobe.

771
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: Fuck you just said. I know you just say that.

772
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 5: Like love, you know, but I was but I loved

773
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 5: it because it was like, yeah, you talk.

774
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna listen.

775
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 5: But don't try to intimidate me, don't try to bully me,

776
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 5: don't don't, please, don't do that, because then the other

777
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 5: dude gonna come out and I'm not gonna back up.

778
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 5: But if you talk to me, I'm gonna listen. And

779
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 5: that's what I try to pride myself and do.

780
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 2: Have you ever made a Have you ever made a

781
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 2: point to something and felt like it didn't get It

782
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 2: was a great point and it didn't get like the

783
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 2: you that you wanted to. You ever made a great

784
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 2: point and it didn't It didn't hit like it hit.

785
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 5: But it's hard for me to remember that, but I'm

786
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 5: sure I have because I talk a lot because of

787
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 5: what I do for a living. And so you know,

788
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 5: as far as I'm concerned, that happens every day. You know,

789
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 5: I'm doing fifteen segments per day to ask business over

790
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 5: you know, it's fifteen segments per two hour show, and

791
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 5: so and it went from twelve to fifteen, and so

792
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 5: you got twelve to fifteen different perspectives on different things.

793
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 5: And certainly there are times each and every single day

794
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 5: where there's a level of emphasis that you could have

795
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 5: put on something, you might have missed it. But I

796
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 5: never fret over it, because I want the number one

797
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 5: thing for me with an audience is that, yes, I'm

798
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 5: trustworthy and what have you, but I'm authentically me facts

799
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 5: and so if I missed it, it's because authentically in

800
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 5: that moment, I didn't feel like doing that. Like what

801
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 5: I show you is who I am, fact, what I

802
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 5: show you is how I feel. And when I say

803
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 5: I'm trustworthy, that doesn't mean I'm right all the time.

804
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 5: What it means is I thought I was right when

805
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 5: I said it. I didn't knowingly say something wrong.

806
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: I didn't lie. I wasn't deceitful. I actually thought.

807
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 5: But then somebody might text me, give me a little

808
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 5: bit of intel, say stephen A, you might have missed

809
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 5: this here, you might missed it.

810
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: I come right back on it.

811
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,919
Speaker 5: Somebody just let me know I missed this boom here

812
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 5: I am.

813
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: But I always let the audience know.

814
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 5: Yo, I'm authentic, I am who you, I am who

815
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 5: I portrayed myself to be, and I don't lie about it.

816
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 2: You have built first take to be arguably the number

817
00:37:55,719 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 2: one show in the universe. They'll set the precedent A

818
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 2: to Z. I follow you. You know, you know my

819
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 2: greatest gift was that I had I read Scotter reports,

820
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 2: I watched film. When I listened to you, you're rare prepared.

821
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 2: Probably you're You're so prepared that you can actually take

822
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 2: a topic and actually make it the precedent for the

823
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 2: next two weeks. I study your stylus when I'm saying,

824
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, abow to you appreciate you

825
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying on some real Jedi ship, because

826
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 2: I see you're formally and how you make this work.

827
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I seen you built first

828
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 2: take into what it is. I never would have thought

829
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 2: Debate TV would actually be prime time to where in

830
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,479
Speaker 2: the morning, y'all are prime time in the morning. People

831
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 2: people think prime time is that that three to six.

832
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: It's not actually at.

833
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I say this to say

834
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,439
Speaker 2: in a in a in a poking way, prime time

835
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 2: because the morning, if you can, if you can, if

836
00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 2: you can encapsulate an audience in the morning, it's says

837
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 2: a lot. I'll say that to say that I followed

838
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 2: from what you're doing with iHeart congratulations. You tell me

839
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 2: to set up in what you're doing with I heart

840
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 2: and then I got to ask the follow up after

841
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 2: that to what's the precedent for that first first of all,

842
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 2: and if I'm going in the right direction of what

843
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 2: I'm louding.

844
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: Cool, it's cool right.

845
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 5: First take is a very big deal because I'm the

846
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 5: executive producer first take two, and they gave you that

847
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 5: title three years ago.

848
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: They said it's yours. Should show show us what you got?

849
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 2: Should you built that?

850
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it was in the aftermath of Max Kellerman

851
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 5: being gone, and I knew.

852
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 1: That it was like my asses on the line.

853
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 5: I got to show what what what what my creative

854
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 5: juices are, and what I'm made of and what I

855
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 5: think this show can be.

856
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 2: But be honest that that had ran its course.

857
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: Though be dead. But that's what I said.

858
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 2: I mean, it was like and it needed it. Y'all

859
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 2: need a new blood. Bro.

860
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 5: He's a good brother, heart's in the right place, work hard,

861
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 5: and I'm not telling you he can't do great TV.

862
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,959
Speaker 1: Ain't that I'm not judging him. All I was saying

863
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: was that us, he and I it ran its costs.

864
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 5: And I could tell because I'm out, I'm out in

865
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 5: the streets, I'm going to the games. I'm inside the lock,

866
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 5: people talking to him, and it's like people talking.

867
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Speaker 1: You know, and.

868
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 5: You know, I'm like, you know, and I'm sitting there

869
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 5: like because I'm trying to win, you know. And and

870
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 5: and this is the thing. People will hear me talk

871
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 5: about winning Winingen.

872
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: Who you think he is?

873
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 5: Yo, we cover sports. We're holding dudes accountable every day

874
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 5: for not winning.

875
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: How do you sit idly by and just be blase

876
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,240
Speaker 1: about being blase? No?

877
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 5: If KG was on the court balling and I looked

878
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 5: at you and went like this, it really don't matter

879
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 5: to him.

880
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: Whether he win or lose. I got a problem with you.

881
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 1: I got a problem with you that can't happen.

882
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 5: And so it's like it also contributed to my health

883
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 5: turn around in the last year because I'm like, I'm.

884
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: Covering professional sports. If I got walking around with pop elly.

885
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 5: For no, no, no, no, I'm holding each cats accountable.

886
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: Let me be all I can be.

887
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 5: And so after doing first take and doing all of that,

888
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 5: then you also start looking at everybody.

889
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, these brothers got.

890
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 5: Money, and they professional athletes, and they coaches and the

891
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 5: general managers and the executives their owners. Yeah that's true,

892
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 5: but they don't stand still they going for it? Are

893
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 5: you going for it?

894
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: Doing first take every day? Is that really really going

895
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: for it? Stephen A?

896
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 2: Is that all you got?

897
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: And I was like, nah, this is unacceptable.

898
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

899
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 5: I aspire to be my own boss. Yeah, I wanted

900
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 5: to develop my own platform. Yes, I want to build

901
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 5: my own media company. Yes, I'm doing stuff in the

902
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 5: world of production with mster sas Productions. All of that's true,

903
00:41:55,200 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 5: but it emanates from this desire and this refusal to

904
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 5: start to not stand still. You do not want to

905
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 5: stand still. You want to keep elevating. There's a difference

906
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 5: between being alive and living, and I was alive, but

907
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 5: I want to living the way I want to live,

908
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 5: and so I wanted to push myself to find out

909
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 5: what I was made of. The podcast successful thirteen months,

910
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,919
Speaker 5: over six hundred and twenty thousand subscribers.

911
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: It will to a million. Thank you so much, the

912
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 1: whole bit. I ain't satisfied. Bro.

913
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 5: Everybody walking around at me. You know, now I'm a boss.

914
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 5: So are you employees now? And I'm looking at you

915
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,760
Speaker 5: and you happy, And I'm getting attitude with you because

916
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 5: I'm looking at you like you don't establish the standard.

917
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: I established the standard. It's my shit.

918
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 5: I'm trying to win and I'm not satisfied with where

919
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 5: we are. That don't mean we're failing, but that to

920
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 5: me is like we walk into the season and you know,

921
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 5: if we make the playoffs, we won, we're successful.

922
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 1: No, no, the chip.

923
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 5: Now, you can't win every year, but you're supposed to

924
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 5: be shooting for it. And at the end of the day,

925
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 5: you know, the Kg's of the world are the guys

926
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 5: that personify It's like there is no one from year

927
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 5: one to your choint. There's no one that can look

928
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 5: at your career and point out one day where they

929
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 5: looked at you and they went like this, you know,

930
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 5: he's just gonna be good if we just have a

931
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:28,240
Speaker 5: winning record.

932
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 1: Nobody could say that about you. Everybody knew you were

933
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: a warrior.

934
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 5: I love warriors, bro, I love warriors man. I didn't

935
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 5: like the fact that AI didn't prioritize practice as much

936
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 5: as he should have, but I covered that man every

937
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 5: day for the first eight ten years of his career.

938
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 5: My hand to God, that brother. When that brother stepped

939
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 5: on the court.

940
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: Warrior, it was like it's and I was just looking

941
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: at him, man.

942
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 5: And one day we had a talk and he was like, Man,

943
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 5: what why are you the way you are with me?

944
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: Man? And I was like, because I love you seriously, Bro,

945
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: You're the.

946
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 5: Little brother I never had. I think about the adversity

947
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 5: you face. I think about the shit you overcame. I

948
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 5: think about the way no matter what mountain of adversity come.

949
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: Your way, you still show up. You still show up.

950
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 5: And I know so much personal shit that he's had

951
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 5: to put up with. You know, cats that betrayed him.

952
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 5: You see what I'm saying and stuff like that, and

953
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 5: he knows I know that, and you know, of course

954
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 5: I would never say, but I was cool with some

955
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 5: of those.

956
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 1: Cats that betrayed them flat I betrayed them.

957
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 5: And it pissed me off because I'm like this, how

958
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 5: do you do that to him? How you just you

959
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 5: just you see stuff and it's like to be around that,

960
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 5: to be surrounded by that and to see that level

961
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 5: of greatness. To me, it's not just about your abilities.

962
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 5: It's about your mental and the conviction that you bring

963
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 5: to the table.

964
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 1: So, just to.

965
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 5: Answer your question, man, it's like it comes from all

966
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 5: of that. And when I think about the podcast and

967
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 5: the production company and all of that, stuff.

968
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: It's coming from that. Yeah, I want to be successful.

969
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 5: You know, I can't announce it yet, but I got

970
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 5: a drama series that was picked up that I'm gonna

971
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 5: be able to announce in a few weeks. I got

972
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 5: a docu series coming out, you know that I can

973
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 5: announce that in a few weeks. I'm working on different

974
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 5: projects and.

975
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: Stuff like that.

976
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 5: All of that's true, But where it really comes from

977
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 5: is the fact that I've been blessed and fortunate enough

978
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 5: to cover and be around some of the greatest athletes

979
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 5: and the strongest mental people, the mentally strongest.

980
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: People I've ever ever seen. And it's made me stronger.

981
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 5: It's made me stronger because when you want to give up,

982
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 5: how think about it?

983
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: Somebody working they working with KG yo. Man, it just.

984
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 5: It really don't really matter to me anymore. Man, I

985
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 5: just want to give up.

986
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 2: You gonna be like, what are.

987
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 1: You talking about? What what you're talking about? Man? It's

988
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: just depressire is just too much. Man.

989
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 5: The adversity is I just get tell you what, Look,

990
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 5: what is this? How soon can I get you the

991
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 5: hellup out of here? I don't need you contaminating the

992
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 5: rest of my peeps.

993
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: We can't have that. You understand, yes, at versus he's

994
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: gonna come.

995
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, we can sit down, talk about it, we could

996
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 5: vibe about it, we could work our.

997
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 1: Way through it. But giving up in an option.

998
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 5: And when you surround yourself with people who are strong,

999
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 5: you get stronger or you fall off.

1000
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: And I ain't trying to fall off.

1001
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 2: Are you watching what you watching?

1002
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: What bar doing? H I'm doing more than that. I've

1003
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: spoken about it. We just had less together a few

1004
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 1: weeks ago. Watching what he's doing.

1005
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 5: I'm watching what he's doing. He's doing some special things.

1006
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 5: But he's been around for a while. He's a gamer,

1007
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 5: got major, major dough He's a visionary, highly intellectual, incredibly accomplished.

1008
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 5: I wish I knew all that he knows. But he's

1009
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 5: been in this world for quite a long time. And

1010
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 5: what he's done on a comedy circuit, what he's done

1011
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 5: for comedians, what he's done for other artists, it's a

1012
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 5: lot to be said for all of that.

1013
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: Man.

1014
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 5: I'm a tremendous, tremendous fan of Byron Allen, and I

1015
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 5: think that any of us who are striving to do something,

1016
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 5: whether we're working with him or not, to at least

1017
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 5: sit down with him, talk to him and receive his counsel,

1018
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 5: and more importantly bring him his flowers because he deserves so.

1019
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: Much of it. I think that's incredibly important.

1020
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 2: What is how far are we from? I know you

1021
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 2: mentioned your own production. I know you got your podcast.

1022
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 2: You've been killing it. Congratulations on that too, man, I

1023
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 2: know you got to build that. You know, I know

1024
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,720
Speaker 2: that firsthand. What is next for you when it comes

1025
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 2: to from watching you with the first take him, watching

1026
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 2: you with the podcast, man, you just got the iHeart

1027
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 2: deal watching everything. What's next for you when it comes

1028
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 2: to this network? Well, first of all, hold on, I'm sorry,

1029
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 2: are you trying to act? Are you trying to.

1030
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 3: Acting?

1031
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 2: Like? What? Second?

1032
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: Third time on that? Not at all? What did you

1033
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:23,280
Speaker 1: live about seven years?

1034
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 5: I've been there about seven years, bro, Yeah, I got

1035
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 5: a recurring role. Character's name is Yeah, it's a villist

1036
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,439
Speaker 5: expert for the even want to know this name?

1037
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 2: I was like like, no, you got to know the

1038
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 2: character name.

1039
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 1: I was like, I love it.

1040
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 2: Then my grandma rest in Peach to my grandma Milton Man,

1041
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 2: she chat there and watched that.

1042
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: For that's right.

1043
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 6: Millions the restless to most populars as long as those

1044
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 6: been going on fifty fifty plus year fifty plus years?

1045
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 3: Has Vinter Curious Man killed yet?

1046
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 5: Is he dead yet?

1047
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: Victor? Victor Newman, Victor Newman, I don't even Victor Newman

1048
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 1: for Young and the Wrestless.

1049
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 5: His name in real life is Eric Braden. He's one

1050
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 5: of my best friends. We have lunch every time I'm

1051
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 5: out here, every time lunch of dinner Automatic Automatic. His

1052
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 5: son is a big time director. He's the one who

1053
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 5: directed Dinner Thieves and it's coming out with number two

1054
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 5: Christian Goudikins. Yes, that's his son.

1055
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: He introduced me to his dad.

1056
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 5: I didn't know either of them until about twelve thirteen

1057
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 5: years ago, and they.

1058
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,879
Speaker 1: Said, oh my god, Eric Braden's texting you, I mean

1059
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: tweeting you. And I said, who the hell is Eric Braiden?

1060
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: And they're like Victor Newman Young at arrest Us. I

1061
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: was like, what Victor Doman right?

1062
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 5: And come to find out, his son, big time mm

1063
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 5: a fan, big time fight fan, told his pops.

1064
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: Yo, man, just do it right here, Steven A Smith.

1065
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: He said, he's the best sports and listen.

1066
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 5: In American history. You got to watch them. And Eric

1067
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 5: Brady went and watch me. He said, I agree, I

1068
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 5: would love to meet you. We went out to dinner

1069
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 5: and we've been tight of a series thirteen years ago, so.

1070
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: I see him all the time.

1071
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 5: And the guy named Maurice Bernardo was also a dear

1072
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 5: friend of mine. He's the guy that plays Sonny Carinthos

1073
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 5: in General Hospital.

1074
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: They the two biggest soap opera stars. They had never met.

1075
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 5: Why I brought them together at Craig's in Beverly Hills

1076
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 5: for dinner a few years ago, just for them to

1077
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 5: meet and break bread with one another.

1078
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: You know.

1079
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 5: So I'm sitting there with the two biggest soap opera stars.

1080
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: So that was hilarius.

1081
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 5: But I enjoy it because I grew up watching it

1082
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 5: because we had one TV in the house, and when

1083
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 5: you came up from school, I got foller, Sisters, you

1084
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 5: wanted to watch TV because you didn't want to do

1085
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 5: your homework and you couldn't go outside and play and

1086
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 5: tell you did your homework. So if you wanted to

1087
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 5: watch anything, you have to watch General Hospital. So I've

1088
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 5: been watching General Hospital since I was like.

1089
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: Eight years old, like eight years.

1090
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 5: Old, and I'm talking about I'm literally watching it like

1091
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 5: i've been at ESPN and it's like, you know, not

1092
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 5: to come to me between three and four o'clock.

1093
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 1: Don't bother me, ship, I mean the soaping, So what

1094
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: if somebody come? Do what when you want? You know,

1095
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: you know you know what time it is. Why you

1096
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: bothering me? You know you know exactly.

1097
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 5: Boris used to come into the dorm and then come on, man,

1098
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 5: I'm like this, you know why you bothered me?

1099
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 2: Yo?

1100
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 1: Man you say you know General hospitals? On why you

1101
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 1: bothered me?

1102
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 2: Right now?

1103
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: Don't bother me right now?

1104
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 2: Man?

1105
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Coach used to try and

1106
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: go practice and be like, can we have practice? Can

1107
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: we have practice after four o'clock? I mean general hospital?

1108
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: Because you didn't have the DVR back then.

1109
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 3: You don't have to be back there.

1110
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 1: The second I could. I did.

1111
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 5: I still do, Bro, I'm telling you I still do

1112
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 5: right now. I ain't yo dog yo yo, I'm out

1113
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 5: here in Cali with you. Let me tell you something

1114
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 5: right now. I take the last two episodes. I'm going,

1115
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 5: I'm going, I'm leaving here to go watch them. I'll

1116
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 5: tell you true, I'm gonna watch.

1117
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 2: This ship dream role if you could do any role

1118
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 2: or have a role. What would it be? Dream role.

1119
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 5: I'd like to be, not like specifically him, but a

1120
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 5: role that like imitated it.

1121
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 1: New jack Cony. Oh get the you know what I mean?

1122
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? No, brand your fire out

1123
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: as down, make change. Yes, Nino Brown, that's right, that's right.

1124
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 2: Oh hell yes, they want to reboot you Jackson playing Nino.

1125
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 2: If you want to play Nino, you got Nino.

1126
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'd have it. I promise you, I promise.

1127
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: I don't under stay here. You know, I understand. I

1128
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 1: don't want to be ice Tea. You understand I'm saying.

1129
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: You don't know what I mean. My man, people's you

1130
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I don't money. I want that money,

1131
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: I love it, but I don't want to money.

1132
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 5: No, no, no smokeing you got that, that's right.

1133
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. He smoked the right in the roof.

1134
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: And by the way, you got that. By the way,

1135
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: you got that, by the way.

1136
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 2: God he had to go.

1137
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 1: He had smoked them smoke smoked.

1138
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 5: I mean, you're playing over you gotta you know you

1139
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 5: you you you you violated man.

1140
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You started using you said

1141
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: you're smoking your crack. You under ste what I'm saying.

1142
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: You on the run. You know, he goill dom you out,

1143
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: He'll get you up. You see what I'm saying. Now,

1144
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: you got to go. He got to go.

1145
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 5: You remember when he said, I I'll be sure you

1146
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 5: just say like you're pretty kill anyway, pretty remember that man?

1147
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, horse fris mm hmm.

1148
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 1: You got him?

1149
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 2: Man walk this smell to his car. Swippy moved you

1150
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 2: as you got that.

1151
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 5: I think Stephen, there you got I think I need

1152
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 5: to see that. All I'm saying to you is this.

1153
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 5: I'm not saying I got him yet. I would have

1154
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 5: him if I had to do the role. I would

1155
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 5: have him if I had to do the.

1156
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 2: Row or you can get it done. You got the

1157
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 2: type of network that you can go in the office

1158
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 2: at the peoples.

1159
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, but you know what though, certain greatness ain't

1160
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 5: meant to be imitated.

1161
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: Leave it alone, Leave it alone. You know what I

1162
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 1: was watching the other day.

1163
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 2: Can't touch classics.

1164
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: I can't touch him. Remember, Let's do it again?

1165
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 2: Yeah hell yeah.

1166
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: See.

1167
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 7: We talk about Holly Berry, we talk about Beyonce, we

1168
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,240
Speaker 7: we we talk about the j Lows of the world

1169
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:52,839
Speaker 7: and others did you see Jane Kennedy walking out there

1170
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 7: in the construction site to start the movie.

1171
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 5: When when when when Bill Cosby was riding on that

1172
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 5: construction truck and stuff, but and he crashed into it.

1173
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 2: You know, I watched it at least once a week,

1174
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 2: just that scene.

1175
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 1: That's that's your favorite thing. Just that scene.

1176
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 5: Okay, Jay Kennedy, Jane Kennedy, and go back and look

1177
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 5: at that grim.

1178
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 2: I'm a Pam grim Man.

1179
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: Listen man, listen, listen, listen.

1180
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 2: That early on Pam Green when she was like listen,

1181
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 2: we did a movie with Pam Grid called Cinnamon Brow

1182
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:31,320
Speaker 2: And and I don't really getting.

1183
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: But she's Pam Great.

1184
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 2: She's fam had to keep it together. I had to

1185
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 2: keep together my home. Pam Grush still looking good, smelling good.

1186
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:40,760
Speaker 1: And let me say this to you.

1187
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 5: You bring up Pam Graham grip another well, of course

1188
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 5: nobody was Roquel Wells. Does not forget about off the Change.

1189
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 2: Jesus, we're doing this.

1190
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 1: Rachel cam back.

1191
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 5: He really back and just really back in. But I'm

1192
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 5: just saying, man, they got some stuff in the news

1193
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 5: right now because Steph Curry and the executive producing this

1194
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 5: animated version of Good Times whatever, people criticizing that all

1195
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 5: of that stuff. But I ain't bringing that up for

1196
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 5: that reason.

1197
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 1: I bring up the real good times. Oh shit with

1198
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: the Thelma.

1199
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 2: Thelma might have been the baddest chick on TV for

1200
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 2: me for about twenty years.

1201
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: Have you seen Thelma today?

1202
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 2: Thelma still bad?

1203
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,439
Speaker 1: When you talk about black beauty. Lord, I just told

1204
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: somebody this story.

1205
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:29,399
Speaker 2: You know, in my room.

1206
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: You come to my room, you see Jordan, you see

1207
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:35,240
Speaker 1: Kenny Anderson. I was a huge Pearl Washington. I sudden, Lord,

1208
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: I sudden, thank you?

1209
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,320
Speaker 5: So is that not the greatest show in the history

1210
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 5: of college basket d Wayne Pearl Washington this Syracuse.

1211
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: It was a line about that.

1212
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 2: It was a line about that, you got the list right, Lord,

1213
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 2: you got the list right. You put Pearl up there,

1214
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 2: didn't nobody even understand that was in there, right?

1215
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 1: And you know, had the audacity to tell me I was wrong.

1216
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,879
Speaker 1: Oh JJ reddick you the fun he told me. I said,

1217
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: I think he just showed your youth. You just showed

1218
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 1: your youth. You're just young. You just I know, you

1219
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: know basketball.

1220
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 5: But you wear brown in his brestt like sibe like

1221
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 5: you go do not what the way Pearl Washington.

1222
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,240
Speaker 1: What the way Pearl Washington.

1223
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 2: JJ Reddick does not know all cultural basketball. Okay, he

1224
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 2: knows what he knows.

1225
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: Okay, when you start digging through the crazy vinyls.

1226
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 2: Come on, man, that's what I'm talking. Come on, man,

1227
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying.

1228
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: That's where I had to go.

1229
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 5: Who Lee Kenny Anderson with lead the Weapon three at

1230
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 5: Georgia Tech. Listen, Lord was a lionhe was the line

1231
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 5: when I talked about he gave it nobody joe Yoe Man.

1232
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 5: I love Bobby Hurley, Bobby Hurley, but but he sent

1233
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 5: Bobby Hurley to the bench crying to coach.

1234
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 1: Don't know what that was that liar, It's not the same.

1235
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 5: Oh, my goodness, my Lord Kenny Anderson. Now now Chris Jackson,

1236
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 5: my mode.

1237
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 2: I was just thinking about the cultural heroes. Chris Jackson

1238
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,439
Speaker 2: was winning. I think he was wearing some Bo Jackson's one.

1239
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 2: Listen listen, Yo, listen.

1240
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 5: The brother was average twenty nine w w SHA and

1241
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 5: big stands and stay.

1242
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 2: Big listen listen listen man, everything you be on, I'm

1243
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 2: on the same plateau. I forgot my damn questioning where

1244
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 2: we were born with all this, because.

1245
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: Come on, man.

1246
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 5: But wait a minute, before we leave that subject, I

1247
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 5: want to say this about Pam Grad Pam Gred marvelous, marvelous.

1248
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 5: I kind of figured and by the way, years later,

1249
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 5: to show you how bad she was.

1250
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: Years later she was.

1251
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 5: In into deep with Oh.

1252
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: Right, she was in there, right, she looked good that

1253
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: But let me say this to you.

1254
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 5: I'm gonna see it one more time, ladies and gentlemen,

1255
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 5: Let's do it again.

1256
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: That's the name of the movie.

1257
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 5: The opening scene, Jane Kennedy going walking. I challenged somebody

1258
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 5: to show me someone more beautiful than that.

1259
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: Woman was in that scene.

1260
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,919
Speaker 2: Right, it's been in, Miss Parker. Yes, it's being miss

1261
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 2: park Miss Parker was warning the grass, Miss Parker. It

1262
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 2: was being in Miss Parker. Brown.

1263
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: I'm just being real with you. Hold on with some

1264
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: mother candy.

1265
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 2: Throw him out here. I know he got some hold.

1266
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: On Jane Kennedy.

1267
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 2: Bro, it's a it's a pale grill. She walking into

1268
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 2: the room. Look look, Vanity, yeah what about Yeah? Vanity?

1269
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 1: Vanity was nice? You remember what was that the dragon?

1270
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 1: Not Bruce Lee about she was in that one.

1271
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 2: Show message.

1272
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 5: That's what you know we're not saying. You say, show

1273
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 5: that movie, whatever the hell I title was, Okay, that

1274
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 5: dude right there, and and and you know what, and

1275
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 5: and she's trying to get with him and stuff like that,

1276
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 5: and and and showed him doing his martial arts and

1277
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 5: her theater and ship, and he loved it and then

1278
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 5: ran out because he came up with an idea and

1279
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 5: left us standing. The vanity was a bad chick, no doubt. Apolonial.

1280
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 5: Lets not forget her. We get Appolonia in preparing when

1281
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 5: she went into when she she thought she was jumping

1282
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 5: in the lake man the talk, but she wasn't. But

1283
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 5: damn it, we know who Appollonia is.

1284
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: Chili all that. But Jane Kennedy, you stuck on there,

1285
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: bro show me better. I ain't saying that. I'm talking

1286
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: about that scene. That scene.

1287
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 2: I got some better get a Yeah, I promised you

1288
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 2: you could think hard as hell.

1289
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: It ain't gonna find you, ain't gonna find it. You

1290
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 1: ain't gonna find it. Not better than that.

1291
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 2: Scene, Johnson, that's another's solid.

1292
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 1: No, No, no, I ain't saying all of them are.

1293
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 2: Grinn or not got you.

1294
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 1: No, No, this is not for examples.

1295
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 5: I'm great, all great, it's all, but it's not Jane

1296
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 5: Kennedy at the beginning. Uh damn it, don't make me,

1297
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 5: make me do it right. I'm just telling you. I'm

1298
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 5: just telling j Kennedy, bro, trust me on this.

1299
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: Trust me.

1300
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 2: I got a part of here.

1301
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 1: What do you say? What do you say? You know?

1302
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 1: He know? He don't you know? I'm telling you, you know,

1303
01:00:59,080 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: I'm telling you.

1304
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 2: What is your recollection on what this new TV deal

1305
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 2: is gonna look like for the league? I watched it.

1306
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 2: I watched a commercial with AT and T commercial and

1307
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 2: they had uh they had young Juju in it, they

1308
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 2: had Joel in it. And I'm watching just the whole

1309
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 2: yes special, super special. Shout to Juju, she's doing the thing.

1310
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 2: Shout to Joel doing this thing and all that. We

1311
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 2: ain't even talking about basketball, right, we didn't even get

1312
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 2: into that. But this is about you. Just wanted more

1313
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 2: about anything else. I wanted to come here, chat with you,

1314
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 2: you know, be as relaxed as we can be, and

1315
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 2: just see what was going on in your world. But

1316
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 2: I'm curious about this new uh NBA TV deal. I'm

1317
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 2: watching Balmber, I'm watching the Celtics. I'm watching people, I'm

1318
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 2: watching organizations feel like they're pulling their assets back and

1319
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 2: making the asset within the asset, not sharing it, not

1320
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 2: necessarily with the league. You know, I can, I can.

1321
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 2: I can remember in the past where you would have

1322
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 2: a dual cross breeding when it was promotion. Kobe's face,

1323
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 2: my face, and they were half it, and that brought

1324
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 2: the cities in Boston together, right, And I'm seeing that.

1325
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 2: I'm seeing now stuff like bamber Vision. I'm seeing stuff

1326
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 2: like what the Celtics are doing with their own stuff.

1327
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 2: I'm watching the Lakers have their own reality show. Is

1328
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 2: this the new wave of how we're going to see

1329
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 2: because linear TV is getting kind of body head getting

1330
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 2: beat up a little bit. Well, see, it's the new

1331
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 2: wave of what this deal is kind of a pulling

1332
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 2: or these small market assets really locking in their assets

1333
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 2: and their regions versus you know, everybody sharing.

1334
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 5: The thing about it is this The first order business

1335
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 5: they accomplished is when they took basketball related income and

1336
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 5: they reduced it from fifty seven. Because what happens is that, okay,

1337
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 5: there's a line that there's a shad that you're getting

1338
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 5: as ownership, all right, when it comes to player salaries

1339
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 5: and the investments that you got to make in players,

1340
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 5: you're establishing a degree of course certainty, so you know

1341
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 5: that as a result, you can compete to some degree

1342
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 5: because but so much you can spend, it's gonna be

1343
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 5: very punitive if you go over the luxury tax and

1344
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 5: stuff like that. And the rich stay rich because they

1345
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 5: know how to be cheap when they need to be cheap.

1346
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 1: So we understand that part.

1347
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 5: But in the larger markets, particularly if you're innovative enough,

1348
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 5: you can really really maximize the potential of your individual

1349
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 5: franchise and that's not going to be stopped. So the

1350
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 5: NBA will guard against that. But the streaming stratosphere has

1351
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 5: really opened things up. And what I would say to

1352
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 5: you is that you got to really really.

1353
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 1: Look at what the NFL did.

1354
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 5: They were on direct TV, but then they went to

1355
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 5: YouTube and they couldn't be happier by making that move.

1356
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 1: And it does look like a better product, the clarity.

1357
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 5: You know, of just the whole visual It just looks

1358
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 5: esthetically brilliant. On a part of the NFL just pops,

1359
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 5: It just pops more. Not only that, you got four

1360
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 5: games on one screen, so you don't have to sit

1361
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 5: up there and have three four multiple TVs or whatever.

1362
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 5: You could put three or four games on one screen,

1363
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 5: and then you know what, you can sit up there

1364
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 5: and you know, full screen any game that you want.

1365
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 5: So having the ability to do those things really really

1366
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 5: puts the NFL in a good position. The other leagues

1367
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 5: are watching because the NFL is the model. And so

1368
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 5: now you got the NBA, and they gonna make deals

1369
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 5: with TNT, They gonna make deals with ABC and ESPN,

1370
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 5: NBC probably is gonna want to get back into the mix.

1371
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 5: But make no mistake about it, they gonna make sure

1372
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 5: they have a digital platform to put their product on.

1373
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 5: And because you have a product to put you up,

1374
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 5: because you have a platform to put your product on

1375
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 5: in the digital stratosphere, that may attract more digital competition.

1376
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 1: Why is that relevant? We take a situation.

1377
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 5: ABC and ESPA or with Disney collaborate with Fox, collation,

1378
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 5: you know, Warner Brothers, Discovery, right, their market cap was

1379
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 5: projected to be at approximately a little under four hundred

1380
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 5: billion dollars, a lot of money.

1381
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 1: We get all of that. You know what Apple is,

1382
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 1: you know what Amazon.

1383
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 5: Is like over trillions, nearly three trillion apiece.

1384
01:04:57,880 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 1: You knows, if not a little over that.

1385
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 5: And so when you see that they just haven't really

1386
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:06,439
Speaker 5: really delve into the world of sports because obviously these

1387
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 5: league rights fees coursed the load, and some of them

1388
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 5: don't want to pay it. And if you don't need

1389
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:13,439
Speaker 5: to pay it, because you're already more valuable than anybody else,

1390
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 5: why do you need to do that? But if they

1391
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 5: decided that they wanted to get into it a bit more,

1392
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 5: who knows what the hell will happen?

1393
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 1: Netflix?

1394
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 5: What if they decide they really want to prestick their

1395
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 5: feet they're toes into the world of sports.

1396
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 1: What's gonna happen?

1397
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 5: So the leagues are looking at all of this and

1398
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 5: they're exploring what opportunities are available to them.

1399
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 1: And if you're the National Football League, if you're college.

1400
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 5: Football, if you're the NBA, you're gonna have a whole

1401
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 5: bunch of suitors.

1402
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 1: You're gonna have a whole bunch of suitors.

1403
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 5: And if you're showing the ability, especially if they figure

1404
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 5: out how to monetize the streaming stratosphere to the degree

1405
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 5: they should, it's going it's gonna be off the charge

1406
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 5: that then we haven't even taken into account artificial intelligence

1407
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 5: AI and the kind of impact that that's going to have.

1408
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 1: In years to come. You gotta be dogged about your rights.

1409
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 5: You gotta make sure you own your rights, because if

1410
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 5: you don't, they could utilize it to their advantage, profit

1411
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 5: off of it, and you're gonna x out the casual fan.

1412
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 1: Think about it this way. Somebody told me the other

1413
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 1: day that it's projected that nearly.

1414
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 5: Two hundred million jobs will be lost in the next

1415
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 5: ten years. Now, that don't mean there won't be additional

1416
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 5: opportunities for you to get in the.

1417
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 1: World of AI.

1418
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 5: But because of the existence of AI, it's gonna move

1419
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 5: out the common man. I've never quite understood that, because

1420
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 5: I've said to myself, you need the common man and

1421
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 5: woman to feed in fuel capitalism. If they ain't, they

1422
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 5: ain't making any money. They can't go out there and

1423
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 5: spend What the hell you think is gonna happen to

1424
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 5: our nation if you elevate artificial intelligence at the price

1425
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 5: of actual human beings who go out there and patronize products,

1426
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 5: go to the restaurants, go to the movies.

1427
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 1: Go buy clothes, all of this, buy cars, oubms.

1428
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 5: What are you going to do? It makes no sense whatsoever.

1429
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 5: So I don't know how they're gonna figure that out.

1430
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 5: But knowing that all of that stuff is coming down

1431
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 5: the pike, you got to be aware of it.

1432
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 1: I had somebody do this to meet the other day.

1433
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 2: KG.

1434
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 1: They sat there and they presented something to me where

1435
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 1: it was me.

1436
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 5: Calling the super Bowl that just happened with San Francis

1437
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 5: gonna get yeah, oh fuck, looked like me, sound.

1438
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 1: Like me the oho shit. They showed it to me.

1439
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 1: I was like, what the hell? They said, that's artificial intelligence.

1440
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 5: So if you can do that, why do you think

1441
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 5: the actors and everybody sag aster and everything.

1442
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 1: Do you think they were going crazy?

1443
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 5: Because again, they want their rights, because if you can

1444
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 5: emulate or duplicate their work without them, where does that

1445
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 5: leave them in this business going down the line. And

1446
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 5: if you're the viewer, how would you know the difference?

1447
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 5: Because technology is so advanced, you might think it's them,

1448
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 5: but it's an AI version of them, and.

1449
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 1: You could barely tell the damn difference.

1450
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 5: This is the kind of world that we're about to encounter,

1451
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 5: and so owning our own stuff, making sure that we

1452
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 5: have ownership of our name, image, likeness, and all of

1453
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 5: that other stuff, it's become even more of a priority

1454
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 5: than ever before. Because the world is moving in a

1455
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 5: different direction and its threatening to leave anybody behind that

1456
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 5: isn't willing to keep up with the.

1457
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 2: Joneses and the loss and the loss don't support Right now,

1458
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:29,719
Speaker 2: there are really no loss. To protect your name in likeness,

1459
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 2: you have to actually go out and incorporate your own

1460
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 2: and actually grab it, own it, get it up. It's crazy.

1461
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:38,719
Speaker 1: This is where we are. It is crazy.

1462
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 2: The next two to three years are going to be

1463
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:44,640
Speaker 2: life changing for probably us, everybody that's been living for

1464
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 2: the next last thirty five forty years. I really see

1465
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 2: a sense of how things are changing. I'm seeing things

1466
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:53,680
Speaker 2: be demasculine. You know what I'm saying. I own know

1467
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 2: it's feminine. What is it fit?

1468
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,839
Speaker 1: Femininity is heightened.

1469
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 2: I say this to say, how far are we from

1470
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 2: a women president? How far are we from women in

1471
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 2: stronger positions? I see Brazil had a woman president, of

1472
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 2: France had a women's president.

1473
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 1: But here's what I would tell you.

1474
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 5: If the FBI directed at the time James Comey hadn't

1475
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 5: come in at the last minute. It was some shit

1476
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:24,440
Speaker 5: about Hillary and emails, and Hillary I believe had campaigned

1477
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 5: in Wisconsin and Philadelphia in the waning days before the election.

1478
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 5: I think you would have had a female president in

1479
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 5: the twenty and sixteen You think so, Yes, I also

1480
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 5: believe Oh.

1481
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 2: No, I think they so heavily in what they've done. Yeah,

1482
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 2: but track record wise, that's why he was able to

1483
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 2: dig on.

1484
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1485
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 5: But I'm just saying I think that she was that close.

1486
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:47,719
Speaker 5: And I think that Michelle Obama would win right now

1487
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 5: if she would have run. I think that Michelle Obama

1488
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 5: would hands down be the next president of the United

1489
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 5: States if she would have run against Trump, the presumptive

1490
01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 5: GOP nominee. Now that obviously is not going to happen.

1491
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:01,679
Speaker 5: She doesn't seem to have an interest. But I only

1492
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:04,679
Speaker 5: say all of that to say, like that with her,

1493
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 5: you like that. It depends on the person.

1494
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I like it.

1495
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 2: I like it, listen, like what it says.

1496
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 1: It doesn't bother me.

1497
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 5: And here's the reason why we love women. We love

1498
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 5: what they meant to our lives. When I think about

1499
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:22,600
Speaker 5: a woman in a leadership position, the first thing I

1500
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 5: think about is my mom. And when I think about

1501
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,559
Speaker 5: what my mom meant to me, what a rock she was,

1502
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 5: and how many men I've seen have cowered away from

1503
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:37,639
Speaker 5: their responsibilities to their families, to themselves. I can't sit

1504
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 5: here in good conscience and act like it's a challenge

1505
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 5: for me or any or should be a challenge for

1506
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 5: any of us to accept a woman in a leadership position.

1507
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 1: Women are leading all the time.

1508
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 5: They leading in corporate America, they're leading all over the place,

1509
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 5: and they're doing a hell of a job, to be

1510
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 5: quite honest.

1511
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 1: With you, that's right. Well, it's always in the background.

1512
01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 5: I mean, I always have women in the back background

1513
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:03,680
Speaker 5: supporting me, my sisters, and you know, my assistant, Sumatra

1514
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 5: and various other people.

1515
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 1: Has always been.

1516
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 5: Women that have been my rock, my foundation. So I

1517
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:11,880
Speaker 5: don't really have an aversion to that. But that's an

1518
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:15,479
Speaker 5: entirely different question than when we talk about our society

1519
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:17,639
Speaker 5: and the wok culture that we're living in, and as

1520
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 5: a black man, it's pissed me off at how things

1521
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:20,679
Speaker 5: have gotten.

1522
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:21,799
Speaker 1: So we got.

1523
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 5: Xenophobia, we got people, you know, hating on immigrants. I'm

1524
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 5: not a proponent of illegal immigration. I think we need

1525
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 5: to control our borders, But in the same breath, I

1526
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 5: don't believe in separating families. I don't believe in throwing

1527
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 5: people out like the bath water and acting like they

1528
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 5: don't matter whatever. I just think that anybody that comes

1529
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 5: to this country should be documented and they should be

1530
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 5: paying taxes.

1531
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 1: Just like I paid taxes. That's it, that's all.

1532
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 5: Now we got that, we got homophobia, we got transphobia.

1533
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:48,600
Speaker 1: Why do I bring all of that up? Racism has

1534
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 1: been thrown at the bottle of the barrel.

1535
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:54,720
Speaker 5: I mean, you talk about black people experiencing racism in

1536
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 5: this country, folks, can bailey give a shit right now

1537
01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 5: compared to the other issues going on. Why Because they've

1538
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 5: made sure their votes count. See what we've done, in

1539
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 5: my opinion as black folks, is we've made ourselves incredibly transparent.

1540
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 5: So we looking at the conservative folks and you've got

1541
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 5: folks from the black community questioning their racial sensitivities or

1542
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:19,600
Speaker 5: calling the flat our races.

1543
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 1: So you're not gonna vote for them. Since Lyndon B.

1544
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:25,679
Speaker 5: Johnson was the president of nineteen sixty four and he said,

1545
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:28,839
Speaker 5: he said this right, and he said, if we vote,

1546
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 5: if we put civil rights legislation in the law, we'll

1547
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 5: have the negroes voting for us for the next two

1548
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:38,719
Speaker 5: hundred years. And sure enough, since he did that, black

1549
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 5: folks have given the Democratic Party over ninety percent of

1550
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 5: our vote. So one side knows you're going to get

1551
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 5: their vote, so they could take you for granted.

1552
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 1: The other side knows.

1553
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:47,840
Speaker 5: They have no chance in getting your vote, so they

1554
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:50,640
Speaker 5: can ignore you. And we're the loan group without representation.

1555
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:54,680
Speaker 5: But immigration, as much of a crisis as it may

1556
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 5: be at the borders right now, they actually benefit from

1557
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 5: that attention because somehow, some way, people are feeling compelled

1558
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 5: to get it under control, which means they're in the

1559
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 5: eye of the storm, which means their issues.

1560
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 1: Matter because whoever gets credit.

1561
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 5: For fixing the problem is going to get the Latino

1562
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 5: vote for years to come. And they are now the

1563
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 5: dominant minority because we had thirteen percent.

1564
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 1: The Hispanic community is at seven to eighteen percent.

1565
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 5: The US Census Bureau projects it's gonna be at over

1566
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 5: thirty percent in a few years, which means that they said,

1567
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:31,679
Speaker 5: let's focus on their vote.

1568
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 1: The hell with black people.

1569
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 2: This is why immigration, this is why immigrations. If you're

1570
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:40,439
Speaker 2: going off that formula, that's why we're having our border problems.

1571
01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 5: And so I look at it from that standpoint, and

1572
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 5: people look at me and they say.

1573
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 1: You sports you support Yeah, but it's real life.

1574
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:47,719
Speaker 5: And don't come to me with that sports shit, because

1575
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 5: the second you see an athlete and you think you

1576
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 5: can manipulate them into getting what you want, you put

1577
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:54,599
Speaker 5: pressure on them.

1578
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:57,760
Speaker 1: Bureau models, stand up, be your voice. You do all

1579
01:13:57,800 --> 01:13:58,639
Speaker 1: of this stuff to them.

1580
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 5: But now if you did agree with them, you want

1581
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:01,599
Speaker 5: them to be quiet.

1582
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 1: Don't come to me with that. Nah. Let's be mindful,

1583
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:05,560
Speaker 1: let's be cognizant.

1584
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:10,639
Speaker 5: And most importantly, people who have the ability to create change,

1585
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 5: to make a difference, to have an impact. Why are

1586
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 5: you not using it for that? Why are you not

1587
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:18,640
Speaker 5: using it for that? Because That's how I'm looking at it. Like,

1588
01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:21,679
Speaker 5: you know, we could say, I got the Democrats pissed

1589
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 5: off of me right now. I said Trump's kicking ass

1590
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 5: and they were like they were mad. I was like,

1591
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:28,800
Speaker 5: what are you being mad at me for? He's been

1592
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 5: indicted on four charges ninety one counts, impeached twice, and

1593
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 5: still is running away with the GOP nominations.

1594
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 1: Y'all can't beat them. That's why you got all of this,

1595
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 1: You know, all in in court.

1596
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 5: The former president of the United States is in court

1597
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 5: right and in New York City because allegedly supposedly he

1598
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 5: paid the poor in star hush money.

1599
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 1: Really, that's what we're doing.

1600
01:14:57,240 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 5: This is another way he got something from a poor

1601
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 5: star and didn't want you to know because he got

1602
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 5: the conservative rights supporting them, so he kept it from

1603
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 5: you while he was running for the president of the

1604
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 5: United States.

1605
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 1: And I'm like, God, he did that. We gotta get him.

1606
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 5: Forget John Edwards, forget Gary Hart, for get Bill Clinton.

1607
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 5: Now now you want to do all of that, Come on, man,

1608
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 5: I'm just saying you're doing it because you can't beat.

1609
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:23,720
Speaker 1: Them, because you can't beat them. That that's like, you

1610
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 1: know what it is that that.

1611
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:27,519
Speaker 2: That's like, that's like making the rules as we're going.

1612
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 5: Remember when Shaq sat up there and said they the

1613
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:33,440
Speaker 5: Sacramento Queens. He was pissed off because he got tired of,

1614
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 5: you know, flopping.

1615
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 1: Remember that.

1616
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:39,560
Speaker 5: So I'm just this is the equivalent of that. You

1617
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 5: you know, you you you're using the Lord to try.

1618
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 1: And get them.

1619
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 5: You flopping because you can't beat him. And I'm like, damn,

1620
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 5: I don't plan on vote for him, but I'm looking

1621
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:50,879
Speaker 5: at him and I'm like, look.

1622
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 1: He's whipping your ass. What you're gonna do about it?

1623
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 2: Look at our world. World up fucking damn man.

1624
01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 5: And that's why it's got to be about business man.

1625
01:15:58,240 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 5: It's got to be about building your brand, being as

1626
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 5: successful as you could possibly be, making that money and

1627
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:05,680
Speaker 5: what have you.

1628
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 1: Because you can't.

1629
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 5: Depend on the system, because the system continues to betray you.

1630
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 1: It's constantly, ever changing.

1631
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,600
Speaker 5: It flows where it throws its finger up into the

1632
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 5: wind and sees where the wind is blown before it

1633
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 5: does anything, and it throws you.

1634
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 1: To the wolves. You can't you can't trust it.

1635
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 2: It's agenda driven. You can't trust it's agenda driven, and

1636
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:29,599
Speaker 2: it's important for you to have your own. I think

1637
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 2: I actually like the conscious state of where we're at

1638
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 2: in the world. I think more people need to be

1639
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 2: more conscious of the square. You need to be conscious

1640
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 2: of your surrounding and vision. I never like to follow anybody, never,

1641
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:45,599
Speaker 2: I ain't never been successful trying to follow somebody. So

1642
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 2: originality I'm always preaching that and the teaching parts. I

1643
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 2: think more of having people conscious now it's more evident

1644
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 2: to be able to bring more things to the to

1645
01:16:56,760 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 2: the plateau to right. I think with having from situations

1646
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:04,639
Speaker 2: make you lock into some of the politics, it makes

1647
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:05,679
Speaker 2: everyday people care.

1648
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:07,720
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Well, I think I do

1649
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 5: it because I'm I want people to know that I'm

1650
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 5: connected to ship that matters, that that's what I'm talking abo.

1651
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 5: I'm not I'm not just talking about anything. You know,

1652
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 5: it matters. It impacts you, and you know you gotta

1653
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 5: have that.

1654
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 2: And politicians need to be accountable like just like any

1655
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 2: person that's in a professional has to be has to be.

1656
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 5: When I got on when I got on Conservatives years ago,

1657
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 5: it was because of sports that I jumped all over

1658
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 5: the whole Trump situation. I said, when he's sitting up

1659
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 5: there and he's acting the way that he's been acting,

1660
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 5: whether it's calling people out as be disrespectful, it's engaging in.

1661
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:49,719
Speaker 1: Whatever level of lawlessness or whatever.

1662
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 5: I said, I just need all of y'all to explain

1663
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 5: to me how it's the Kappenic situation going on or

1664
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 5: there's something else, And you ready to hold twenty twenty

1665
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:07,360
Speaker 5: five thirty year old athletes accountable more so than you're

1666
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 5: gonna hold at the time of seventy four seventy two,

1667
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 5: seventy four year old man who happens to be the

1668
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:15,680
Speaker 5: president of the United States accountable. How is it that

1669
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:18,680
Speaker 5: you can explain with a straight face that people who

1670
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:23,200
Speaker 5: have the power to legislate our lives are held with

1671
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:26,760
Speaker 5: less accountability than a professional athlete. You don't have to

1672
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 5: go watch see him at the arena, you don't have

1673
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 5: to go watch him on television, you don't have to

1674
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:33,600
Speaker 5: bother you don't have to do any of that. You

1675
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:36,080
Speaker 5: could just choose not to support them, not to watch them,

1676
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:38,560
Speaker 5: and you're literally holding him accountable.

1677
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:40,680
Speaker 1: Well, they're a role model. Well, what the hell is

1678
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:41,720
Speaker 1: the president supposed to be?

1679
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 3: Fact?

1680
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:45,600
Speaker 1: What the hell is the senator government? What are you

1681
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:47,000
Speaker 1: talking about with a governor?

1682
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 2: A man?

1683
01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:48,720
Speaker 1: What are you supposed to be?

1684
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:50,719
Speaker 5: If the athlete is supposed to be the role model,

1685
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 5: what are you supposed to be?

1686
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:53,680
Speaker 2: And keep it real, We're supposed to go in the

1687
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 2: past and catch some of this yesteryear's ship and bring

1688
01:18:56,120 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 2: you back up. That's right, Tulsa never got that's right. Georgia,

1689
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:05,720
Speaker 2: the son of the the Lake, it's got the whole thing,

1690
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 2: Central Park, it's got the whole You feel what I'm saying?

1691
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:11,680
Speaker 5: All that, all that, all of that, And so I

1692
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:16,720
Speaker 5: make folks uncomfortable because I bring that up and when

1693
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 5: I'm and then you might have people in the world

1694
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:22,599
Speaker 5: of sports, like I've gotten too certain issues with coaches

1695
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 5: and other people, right, and they might get mad. They

1696
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 5: might try to come at me because or they don't

1697
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:28,520
Speaker 5: like what I said, or whatever.

1698
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:28,920
Speaker 1: The case may be.

1699
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 5: And I and I'll look at I'll be on TV,

1700
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:32,799
Speaker 5: and I'll look at in a certain way.

1701
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 1: And I'll be like, yeah, I know why you don't

1702
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:34,560
Speaker 1: like it.

1703
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:36,760
Speaker 5: You see what I'm saying, because you know, they got

1704
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 5: they got other ship going on, you know, like they

1705
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 5: might flow with a politician, they might flow with a

1706
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 5: particular issue. They might flow with it, but you ain't

1707
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:46,840
Speaker 5: want to say it, you see, And I and and

1708
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 5: and when the players all, you know, rally around them

1709
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:52,680
Speaker 5: and support and I'll be like this, to move the

1710
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:53,280
Speaker 5: hell out the way.

1711
01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 1: I'm looking right at.

1712
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:58,559
Speaker 5: That, that coach or that executive, whatever you got ship

1713
01:19:58,560 --> 01:19:59,679
Speaker 5: to do with it, My your damn business.

1714
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:00,919
Speaker 1: You being users upon.

1715
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:02,559
Speaker 5: Trust me, that ain't the issue they got with me.

1716
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 5: It's deeper than that. But if you playing games, you

1717
01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:08,720
Speaker 5: playing a game and you ain't paying attention to the

1718
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 5: shit I'm paying attention to, of course you're gonna think

1719
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:14,599
Speaker 5: like that. But I'm thinking differently. You see what I'm saying.

1720
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:17,680
Speaker 5: It's like I remember when Grey Popovichi called up.

1721
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 1: He called up a show and because he was playing

1722
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 1: about Trump. I love that. Why because you're showing what

1723
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:24,720
Speaker 1: you think about Steve.

1724
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 5: Kerr going ballistic in all us rightfully so, by the way,

1725
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:29,639
Speaker 5: about some of the politics that were gonna play, bringing

1726
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 5: up the bills that weren't being passed by name and number, Like, Yo,

1727
01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:37,560
Speaker 5: this is what's going on. And I'm like, yeah, finally

1728
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 5: you saying it, because this goes on all the time.

1729
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 5: They just don't admit that, and they ain't talking to

1730
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 5: the players about that, and they ain't telling them about

1731
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:49,599
Speaker 5: this stuff what you really feeling on purpose. But I know,

1732
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 5: and because I know, because I'm connected to people who

1733
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:56,600
Speaker 5: communicate with cats like that. I'm sitting there like this,

1734
01:20:56,960 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 5: y'all move out the way this between me in them.

1735
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 1: They know what that. They know what I'm saying.

1736
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 5: You know exactly what I'm saying, and it is to

1737
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:08,040
Speaker 5: make him uncomfortable, so be it.

1738
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:08,800
Speaker 2: So be it.

1739
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 1: That's what rebels with the cause.

1740
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 2: Do they say to have a presence, it's a cost disruption,

1741
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:19,600
Speaker 2: and true disruption is honored No, you don't even know

1742
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 2: if somebody's in the room, if they're not a presence.

1743
01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I totally get it. What's

1744
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:26,800
Speaker 2: what's next for you? Man? Like I see everything you're

1745
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 2: doing and hurd all this.

1746
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 1: Man.

1747
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:30,360
Speaker 2: I love see men. I can talk to you for

1748
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 2: like a whole day. Bro. You man, I'm glad we

1749
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 2: ain't here drinking. I'm glad we got water. No no,

1750
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 2: do not bring out no liquor. No, no church is good.

1751
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 1: We can.

1752
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:45,679
Speaker 2: We can toe dominated the chamber and it's sports.

1753
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 1: Wow the grass.

1754
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 2: We can. We don't know what you gotta do next?

1755
01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:52,880
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying with the man out here. Look,

1756
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:56,000
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, king and certified and got been.

1757
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:56,559
Speaker 1: You know what I'm.

1758
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:59,519
Speaker 5: Saying the way you know now we got to hear

1759
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 5: his top.

1760
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we gotta do that, man. But thank you man,

1761
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 1: well deserved by. I'm proud of you.

1762
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:04,840
Speaker 3: Man.

1763
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 1: You're doing your thing.

1764
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 2: You hear me.

1765
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:10,320
Speaker 1: I like this, man, that's move smooth.

1766
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 2: What is this churn.

1767
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:14,960
Speaker 1: Works for? Me's gonna have us been on this mother?

1768
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 3: Man?

1769
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 1: That's cool. Put in the go cup up.

1770
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:24,639
Speaker 2: Man, I gotta I gotta ask you bro Top five

1771
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:27,719
Speaker 2: MC's man. Let me hear your all time.

1772
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 5: Let me answer that first question first in terms of

1773
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:31,719
Speaker 5: what's next.

1774
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:33,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, my bad, my fault. I didn't even give

1775
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 2: you that. My bad.

1776
01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 1: What's next?

1777
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:42,799
Speaker 5: My production company, discovering talent, giving them an opportunity to shine,

1778
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 5: coaching some of these cats about what's out here in

1779
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:49,880
Speaker 5: the world and how the maneuver your way through the

1780
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:54,679
Speaker 5: mind field. It rude to really really making a difference.

1781
01:22:56,760 --> 01:22:59,639
Speaker 5: I definitely want to do that. I want to develop

1782
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:06,439
Speaker 5: television shows, movies while still doing my own thing. Yes,

1783
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:08,760
Speaker 5: I'm gonna get into acting more. I'm gonna actually take

1784
01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:09,559
Speaker 5: it seriously and I'm.

1785
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:11,479
Speaker 1: Gonna do some acting. Oh you go to school, I'm

1786
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:13,200
Speaker 1: gonna take take some classes the whole.

1787
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 5: I'm telling you, I'm gonna need no brown baby, you

1788
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:17,599
Speaker 5: know brown, i'na pull shit off.

1789
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:19,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do I'm gonna do

1790
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:20,599
Speaker 1: something like that. I'm telling you that right now.

1791
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:23,160
Speaker 2: You know I'm gonna.

1792
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 1: Do all of that. I'm gonna do all of that.

1793
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:25,680
Speaker 1: But you know.

1794
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:32,400
Speaker 5: The goal is to be successful enough to be able

1795
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:36,559
Speaker 5: to hire people, to bring people along to help us grow.

1796
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:44,840
Speaker 5: I'm not anti anything, you know, But I'm pro black

1797
01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:46,200
Speaker 5: and I'll never.

1798
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 1: Apologize for that.

1799
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,559
Speaker 5: And so it's like, yeah, I'm gonna hire white folks

1800
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 5: just like I'm hire Latinos or whatever.

1801
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:53,280
Speaker 1: But I'm always hire us too.

1802
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,040
Speaker 5: And I want I want talent, and I want to

1803
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 5: be able to develop and grow, but in the same breath,

1804
01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:00,680
Speaker 5: I gotta take care of myself. And so you know,

1805
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:02,799
Speaker 5: I got a contract coming up with the ESPN.

1806
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:04,439
Speaker 1: Who knows what that's what's gonna happen.

1807
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 5: We'll see what's gonna happen with that, and and and

1808
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:09,600
Speaker 5: and whether or not I'm gonna stay or or I

1809
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 5: have to move on. I doubt that I'll have to

1810
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:13,519
Speaker 5: move on. They definitely made it clear they want me

1811
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:15,439
Speaker 5: to stay. They know I don't mind doing first take,

1812
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:18,760
Speaker 5: but in order for me to do anything beyond first take,

1813
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 5: it has to be worth my while. And that's just

1814
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 5: where I'm at with it. So it remains to be

1815
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 5: seen what's gonna happen. But that's my vision in terms

1816
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:32,879
Speaker 5: of just really helping us get along. Now, these five rappers,

1817
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:36,480
Speaker 5: five rappers that you asked me about MCS.

1818
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:39,320
Speaker 2: You do I don't like the world raptors.

1819
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:45,799
Speaker 1: Hip hop listen. This is me man. It's hard. It's hard.

1820
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:47,599
Speaker 1: I hate, I actually hate.

1821
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 5: I hate this subject because I always got to leave

1822
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:53,519
Speaker 5: people off that I got so much love for jy

1823
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 5: Z to me is tops.

1824
01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:57,640
Speaker 2: He's number one, number one.

1825
01:24:57,680 --> 01:24:58,320
Speaker 1: I got j number.

1826
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 6: You got number one because God, because you got cats

1827
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:05,920
Speaker 6: who play some ship you can dance too. You got

1828
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:08,920
Speaker 6: cast to say ship that make you think you got cast,

1829
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:10,920
Speaker 6: that you could just lay down and listen to. You

1830
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 6: got cast and you want to thump once you ride

1831
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:14,920
Speaker 6: it once you once you, when you once you riding

1832
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:18,280
Speaker 6: through Calabasas or wherever it is else.

1833
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 1: We're gonna be all that kind of ship.

1834
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:24,120
Speaker 5: That's true. Jay Z can do all of that. He

1835
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 5: don't let you down.

1836
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:27,599
Speaker 1: Versatility, the versatility.

1837
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 5: I gotta put him there. I can't with that as

1838
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 5: a criteria. I can't leave out Biggie and Tupac. I cannot.

1839
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 1: You know.

1840
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:42,639
Speaker 5: As a matter of fact, I think if Tupac were

1841
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 5: alive all of these years and have never left us,

1842
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:47,640
Speaker 5: I think Tupac will be.

1843
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:49,559
Speaker 1: Number one music.

1844
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:55,719
Speaker 5: He was because he was an activist. Biggie was brilliant,

1845
01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 5: but he was an activist. And because he has an

1846
01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:04,120
Speaker 5: active this mentality, had an activist mentality, spirit and spirit.

1847
01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:06,360
Speaker 5: I think I would have put him number one. But

1848
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 5: since he hasn't been here for so long, and jay

1849
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:11,240
Speaker 5: Z has elevated the way that he has and has

1850
01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:13,880
Speaker 5: withstood the test of time, I'm gonna put jay Z

1851
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:16,559
Speaker 5: at number one. I'm gonna put Pocket number two. I'm

1852
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:20,320
Speaker 5: gonna put Biggie at number three. It gets real, real

1853
01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 5: tricky from there because nas eminem uh and let me

1854
01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 5: tell you something. Now, you know, I come from the

1855
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 5: days of it being rock camp, you know, KRS one.

1856
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:34,880
Speaker 5: I remember when the Big Daddy came and when you

1857
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 5: know when him and and my god him in LLL

1858
01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 5: was going at it, I mean born now, I mean

1859
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:44,920
Speaker 5: lll ll listen, ll well, don't get enough, don't get

1860
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 5: enough luck, ll don't get enough luck.

1861
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:50,559
Speaker 1: And then you got to remember, I'm from Hollis, from Quez.

1862
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 1: So that's one dm C jam Master Jay. He was best.

1863
01:26:57,080 --> 01:26:59,559
Speaker 5: Friends with my late brother god Rest both this soulis,

1864
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 5: you know. So it was like we grew up right

1865
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:02,760
Speaker 5: up the block from each other. I mean I grew

1866
01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 5: up one hundred yards from Jim Master and say I

1867
01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 5: saw him all the time. I knew who run was

1868
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 5: messing with. He was messing with this girl on my

1869
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:12,439
Speaker 5: block long before he got married. Get met his wife

1870
01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 5: and got married.

1871
01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:14,720
Speaker 1: I mean, that's how far we go back.

1872
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:18,360
Speaker 5: So I'm looking at fitty, respect the hell out of

1873
01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:21,200
Speaker 5: you know, all of these cats, you know, Heavy D

1874
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:23,839
Speaker 5: and the boys. This is where I come from. You understand,

1875
01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:25,840
Speaker 5: Fat Joe got loved for him. We got to give

1876
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:28,800
Speaker 5: him respect all of that ship. But if I had

1877
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 5: to go with four and five, I had to go

1878
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:32,800
Speaker 5: with four and five.

1879
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 2: You got some Southern playerlistics in there. You got some

1880
01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 2: you got some Texas boys in there. You got some

1881
01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 2: Midwest boys in there.

1882
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:41,960
Speaker 1: You got something boys by men.

1883
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:49,000
Speaker 2: University, I know you university stew.

1884
01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 5: Let me say with with Dre, he's not a hip

1885
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:54,680
Speaker 5: hop artist. I mean he's not like he's not I'm not.

1886
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 2: Said, okay, okay, producer music.

1887
01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:02,719
Speaker 5: There's only one of one's. Doctor Dre is is headed.

1888
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 5: I mean I idolized this brother. That's why my bucket

1889
01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:06,320
Speaker 5: list to interviewed that brother.

1890
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:08,840
Speaker 1: I love doctor Dre love I love him.

1891
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 5: Snoops my oh my god, my god. I got to

1892
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:17,720
Speaker 5: put I got to put snoop up there. I'm like,

1893
01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 5: how I mean I gotta put snoop for I gotta

1894
01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:24,840
Speaker 5: put I just gotta do.

1895
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 1: I gotta put snoop. You know not now now eminem

1896
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:34,320
Speaker 1: and now's belonging then you know that right? You know you?

1897
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:43,080
Speaker 5: I mean, oh my god, damn.

1898
01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 1: West side covering from the west side. Yeah, man, you

1899
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:48,960
Speaker 1: know how Orange and the crew, I mean all of them.

1900
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:54,000
Speaker 5: Man, he's forty water right, all right, all right, I'm

1901
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:55,160
Speaker 5: gonna have to say.

1902
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 1: This the fifth one.

1903
01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:57,639
Speaker 2: You got one more, man.

1904
01:28:57,560 --> 01:29:00,640
Speaker 5: I gotta put ll test the time, I gotta put l.

1905
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:05,599
Speaker 5: I'm not then I apologize Nas. I love not love

1906
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:10,960
Speaker 5: Noads so much love listen. But like, for example, you

1907
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 5: see cats rapping right, and they look at NOAs because

1908
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:15,360
Speaker 5: Nas is so scientific.

1909
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:18,439
Speaker 1: He's a surgeon with his ship. He's so brilliant. Got

1910
01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:22,120
Speaker 1: mad love for him, the whole nine. But but here's

1911
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:22,599
Speaker 1: the thing.

1912
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 5: Everybody don't get it from him.

1913
01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:35,000
Speaker 1: Everybody get l L L L is like he Hollywood.

1914
01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:39,000
Speaker 1: But he's still, he's still, He's still.

1915
01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:40,920
Speaker 5: He don't let you down, you know what I'm saying.

1916
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:43,439
Speaker 5: And the versatility and he's with still the test of time.

1917
01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 2: L L just battles.

1918
01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:51,439
Speaker 5: I mean, come on, man, you without question and then you,

1919
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:55,640
Speaker 5: I mean, and a businessman, an actor. Ella is a

1920
01:29:55,640 --> 01:30:00,519
Speaker 5: brilliant brother man, a brilliant brother mad loving. But I

1921
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:02,040
Speaker 5: can't leave Snoop out.

1922
01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:06,040
Speaker 1: I just can't. And you know, by the way, I

1923
01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 1: gotta bring this up.

1924
01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:13,880
Speaker 5: I really really liked Doctor Dre showed Super Bowl halftime

1925
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:15,280
Speaker 5: a couple of years ago.

1926
01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:17,280
Speaker 1: It was special Mary J.

1927
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:23,800
Speaker 5: Fiddy and then whatever, how do you have Snoop on

1928
01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:28,680
Speaker 5: that stage in l A and you don't have him play.

1929
01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:29,320
Speaker 1: What's My Name?

1930
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:38,080
Speaker 5: How I'm not I've been loving Doctor Dre for decades.

1931
01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:39,800
Speaker 1: It is to this day.

1932
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:44,040
Speaker 5: The only negative I had how was that?

1933
01:30:44,160 --> 01:30:53,760
Speaker 1: Could you imagine as to what ever god, I mean,

1934
01:30:53,800 --> 01:31:00,200
Speaker 1: could if they have played that but with Snoop? Super Bowl.

1935
01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:05,360
Speaker 2: Every every since the famous nipple with just a tip

1936
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:07,760
Speaker 2: of Lake and Jenna Jackson j Jackson showing that tity

1937
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:08,759
Speaker 2: on a Sunday afternoon.

1938
01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:13,360
Speaker 3: Ha, get two seconds of that? We out right, man.

1939
01:31:13,439 --> 01:31:16,080
Speaker 1: The NFL has been playing it safe every since. I

1940
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:19,160
Speaker 1: don't know about that that okay place.

1941
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:21,920
Speaker 2: I'm saying you got Snoop in l A. You to

1942
01:31:22,040 --> 01:31:24,160
Speaker 2: play that this whole.

1943
01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:25,360
Speaker 1: You could clean it up, though, man, it has the

1944
01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 1: whole inger Wood whole you could clean it, clean up

1945
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:30,960
Speaker 1: effect of the song.

1946
01:31:31,439 --> 01:31:32,680
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you, And it would have had the

1947
01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:34,719
Speaker 2: whole it had been a bunch of Indian white.

1948
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:35,519
Speaker 1: People like no, no, no, no, no, no.

1949
01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:38,559
Speaker 5: Turn down.

1950
01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:42,200
Speaker 1: It was one month. If it was one moment, if

1951
01:31:42,240 --> 01:31:44,480
Speaker 1: it was one moment, one moment.

1952
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:47,439
Speaker 5: Where the world would have forgiven the NFL, it would

1953
01:31:47,439 --> 01:31:47,920
Speaker 5: have been for that.

1954
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:51,840
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. It would have brought the house down.

1955
01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:56,559
Speaker 1: Brought the house down. How do you not play that song?

1956
01:31:56,640 --> 01:31:58,160
Speaker 2: That?

1957
01:31:58,160 --> 01:31:59,439
Speaker 1: That is? That is all.

1958
01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:03,639
Speaker 5: That is the only critique I've had of doctor dre.

1959
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:05,679
Speaker 2: Right there.

1960
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:09,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, what's you don't play that song? That's the

1961
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:11,760
Speaker 1: one song you have to play, and he didn't do it.

1962
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:14,280
Speaker 2: That was the best halftime show for me.

1963
01:32:14,439 --> 01:32:16,920
Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you this though, I'll tell you it was,

1964
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:18,679
Speaker 5: but I tell you pick your poisons.

1965
01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:23,320
Speaker 1: Depends your taste. Beyonce with Bruno Mars.

1966
01:32:23,439 --> 01:32:27,880
Speaker 2: That was like cold Play. Yeah listen, yo, listen, yo listen.

1967
01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:31,479
Speaker 2: I'm a Rihanna fan. That ship Rihanna did. I was thinking,

1968
01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:34,439
Speaker 2: that's ship. I was looking at Rihanna and yo yo,

1969
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:37,800
Speaker 2: she she suspended yo. Hold on first though she's pregnant. Yeah,

1970
01:32:37,880 --> 01:32:39,920
Speaker 2: she's suspended in there. They got it in there. You

1971
01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:42,120
Speaker 2: see this, you see what I want. That's what I'm saying.

1972
01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:43,200
Speaker 2: I feel you that was a show.

1973
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:45,479
Speaker 1: But when it was a show, show, That's what I'm saying.

1974
01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:48,360
Speaker 5: But Beyonce, Bruno mars let me tell that, Bruno mars

1975
01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:53,160
Speaker 5: By myself. You know he Mindernave, Michael Jackson, Michael Jackson,

1976
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:54,120
Speaker 5: o Key, Bruno.

1977
01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:57,760
Speaker 1: Mars Key special, very special special. But when him and

1978
01:32:57,840 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 1: Beyonce and cold Play did it together.

1979
01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:06,920
Speaker 4: Stop stops, she didn't. She was fired. That that was fired.

1980
01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:08,960
Speaker 4: She did a sweat suit. You talk about the next

1981
01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:13,240
Speaker 4: sweat draft, y'all was higher than Giraffe.

1982
01:33:14,439 --> 01:33:14,840
Speaker 3: I know it.

1983
01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:17,639
Speaker 2: The lid would sweating. I feel you had your hair.

1984
01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:20,880
Speaker 2: She was taking like somebody Auntie in that motherfucker.

1985
01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:21,360
Speaker 1: Boy who.

1986
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:24,679
Speaker 2: That ship was the hardest.

1987
01:33:24,680 --> 01:33:26,760
Speaker 1: I forgot about Whitney. Excuse me.

1988
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:31,000
Speaker 5: That wasn't halftime, That wouldn't half to pre game get there.

1989
01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:35,040
Speaker 1: Oh that's oh my god, that one had time. So

1990
01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:35,719
Speaker 1: I'm not confused.

1991
01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:40,080
Speaker 5: I know my ship now, that would not happen.

1992
01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:44,559
Speaker 1: That had time. Okay, I'm just telling you what I know.

1993
01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:49,400
Speaker 5: Whitney is nice and by the way, national anthem since

1994
01:33:49,439 --> 01:33:53,879
Speaker 5: we brought that up. We religiously say that's the greatest

1995
01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:55,439
Speaker 5: national anthem we've ever heard.

1996
01:33:55,720 --> 01:34:01,679
Speaker 1: Whitney Houston. Fair enough. So we're just gonna igno Marvin Gang.

1997
01:34:02,600 --> 01:34:06,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, in l A n B A All Star Weekend,

1998
01:34:07,120 --> 01:34:11,439
Speaker 5: we're just gonna ignore that performance by the late great

1999
01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:12,280
Speaker 5: Marvin Gang.

2000
01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:15,519
Speaker 2: What's your favorite floor? What's your favorite saying it's fluid? Fluid,

2001
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:16,880
Speaker 2: it's fluid, it's.

2002
01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:19,960
Speaker 5: Fluid, it's all right, Well, then make it fluid. It

2003
01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:22,400
Speaker 5: ain't definitive about Whitney's fluid.

2004
01:34:22,760 --> 01:34:25,000
Speaker 1: That's all I'm trying to say. Come on, y'all correct.

2005
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:27,519
Speaker 2: It was not a halftime show that I am about

2006
01:34:27,560 --> 01:34:28,160
Speaker 2: to thought about.

2007
01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:29,759
Speaker 1: It was not a halftime ship.

2008
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:31,679
Speaker 2: And she just poured, hopped out, did that and jump

2009
01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:32,840
Speaker 2: right back in and got our shot.

2010
01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:35,120
Speaker 1: That's right right. She didn't leave. She stayed in the game.

2011
01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:38,479
Speaker 1: Stiff again, Stiff again. We're gonna show yourself.

2012
01:34:38,640 --> 01:34:47,840
Speaker 2: I want you to Oh ship, Oh ship.

2013
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:52,920
Speaker 4: That's J Kennedy, that's George Foreman.

2014
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:56,679
Speaker 1: Look at look a look at it. Look it again.

2015
01:34:57,000 --> 01:34:59,559
Speaker 1: Look hard. Did you see that? You shouldn't have to

2016
01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:01,120
Speaker 1: look at her? Look at this woman right there.

2017
01:35:01,520 --> 01:35:05,639
Speaker 5: That is J Kennedy, my brother halle Berry before halle Berry.

2018
01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:10,680
Speaker 2: That was hard damn, Jane. Keep looking what Jane, it

2019
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:11,959
Speaker 2: ain't really looking Bill.

2020
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:15,360
Speaker 1: Cosby, right, look at this woman right there? Look at

2021
01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:19,880
Speaker 1: hard Now watch them, Lord have mercy.

2022
01:35:21,040 --> 01:35:24,240
Speaker 2: This is the scepties. Bro, mister, I'm gonna go watch

2023
01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:27,240
Speaker 2: this today. Look at Bill Co's about the fucking all

2024
01:35:27,240 --> 01:35:31,120
Speaker 2: the way else watch he rescue bills.

2025
01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:33,360
Speaker 1: Watching you see this woman?

2026
01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:41,679
Speaker 5: Yes, I try to tell you, Jane Kennedy, he jumped out.

2027
01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:42,519
Speaker 1: The damn lift.

2028
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:47,120
Speaker 2: What. Oh, there's some fucking going on in the set here.

2029
01:35:47,479 --> 01:35:49,639
Speaker 2: Oh there's some fucking going all along in this movie.

2030
01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:54,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we got to that's a great shape if

2031
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:55,759
Speaker 2: that was true?

2032
01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:59,720
Speaker 1: What but if it was I understand.

2033
01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:08,040
Speaker 2: Certified Stephen Man. But this is my manager made from

2034
01:36:08,040 --> 01:36:11,760
Speaker 2: custom guys. They gotta they got a gift for you.

2035
01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:12,240
Speaker 1: You.

2036
01:36:12,880 --> 01:36:14,320
Speaker 2: This is some of all the capsule. It ain't a

2037
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:16,360
Speaker 2: bunch of shit, but it's simple stife.

2038
01:36:16,720 --> 01:36:19,479
Speaker 1: Like this like this. I like this.

2039
01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:21,640
Speaker 2: I want to I want to get your take on it.

2040
01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:23,720
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I know you're a clean brother.

2041
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:26,600
Speaker 2: I know you like a salon stuff quality. I like

2042
01:36:26,680 --> 01:36:27,719
Speaker 2: all of the simple stuff.

2043
01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:28,599
Speaker 1: So is this right here?

2044
01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:30,280
Speaker 2: This is this is. This is just a you know,

2045
01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:32,439
Speaker 2: creation of it right here?

2046
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:32,920
Speaker 1: All right?

2047
01:36:34,920 --> 01:36:35,439
Speaker 2: Check it out?

2048
01:36:35,960 --> 01:36:36,840
Speaker 1: Now this ship works.

2049
01:36:36,920 --> 01:36:39,200
Speaker 2: So I had the I had, I had, I brought

2050
01:36:39,240 --> 01:36:40,639
Speaker 2: Sam Cassell, who you got?

2051
01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:43,920
Speaker 1: You got? You gotta be courageous to wear this right here.

2052
01:36:44,120 --> 01:36:47,439
Speaker 1: You can't just wear this. You gotta be courageous to

2053
01:36:47,439 --> 01:36:49,840
Speaker 1: wear this because you know this. Did you stepping out

2054
01:36:49,840 --> 01:36:51,080
Speaker 1: when you're wearing this right here?

2055
01:36:51,160 --> 01:36:52,080
Speaker 2: You gotta be right right?

2056
01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:52,519
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

2057
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:53,120
Speaker 2: You gotta have some.

2058
01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:58,439
Speaker 5: Confidence with you, no doubt, Sam, you gotta saying I

2059
01:36:58,439 --> 01:36:59,080
Speaker 5: am out head.

2060
01:36:59,360 --> 01:37:01,640
Speaker 2: Check this out. Some custom gods they want to be

2061
01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:03,479
Speaker 2: able to present you with something you.

2062
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:05,360
Speaker 1: Thank you, bro, thank you for coming.

2063
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:06,400
Speaker 2: Thanks so much. Man.

2064
01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:07,559
Speaker 1: Can I open it?

2065
01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:08,040
Speaker 2: Absolutely?

2066
01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:11,320
Speaker 1: Let me see this? No, no, I'm good. I want

2067
01:37:11,320 --> 01:37:11,760
Speaker 1: to see this.

2068
01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:12,680
Speaker 2: I want to open it.

2069
01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:15,400
Speaker 1: I want to see what you gave me. Help over

2070
01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:18,880
Speaker 1: it's taped up? How it is?

2071
01:37:20,320 --> 01:37:21,600
Speaker 2: He got it?

2072
01:37:21,680 --> 01:37:28,200
Speaker 1: Oh? Damn right? Okay, all right, okay, okay.

2073
01:37:27,680 --> 01:37:30,479
Speaker 5: You know what for you, I'm gonna wall this ship

2074
01:37:30,479 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 5: when I got to.

2075
01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:33,400
Speaker 1: That's right.

2076
01:37:34,040 --> 01:37:37,320
Speaker 2: Anything else here, get your information. We take care of you.

2077
01:37:37,320 --> 01:37:39,920
Speaker 1: Thank you, brother, no doubt that.

2078
01:37:40,160 --> 01:37:40,720
Speaker 2: Thank you man.

2079
01:37:41,439 --> 01:37:43,679
Speaker 1: I'm proud of you, bro, though, proud of you man.

2080
01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:46,840
Speaker 1: You know, keep doing your thing. Yo. We got to

2081
01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:47,960
Speaker 1: hook up for the playoffs.

2082
01:37:48,120 --> 01:37:49,679
Speaker 2: Let's do it.

2083
01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:51,800
Speaker 1: Come on my show, let's get it.

2084
01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:54,439
Speaker 5: Then we got to bring our basketball analysis up in there,

2085
01:37:54,439 --> 01:37:56,160
Speaker 5: because we know, we know some people.

2086
01:37:56,320 --> 01:37:58,799
Speaker 1: Now you ready, you know everybody ain't ready, they ain't.

2087
01:37:58,680 --> 01:38:02,160
Speaker 5: Ready to listen list and that you would meet break

2088
01:38:02,160 --> 01:38:02,959
Speaker 5: it down the playoffs.

2089
01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:05,800
Speaker 1: You are all in a way right in here with

2090
01:38:06,640 --> 01:38:07,080
Speaker 1: I'm good with.

2091
01:38:07,160 --> 01:38:18,880
Speaker 2: That's h