WEBVTT - Episode 30: Alfred Hitchcock 0:00:09.440 --> 0:00:14.880 Hello, Hello, Hello, Welcome to the fourth week of Spooktober. 0:00:15.040 --> 0:00:18.759 I can see if he's face right now as I 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:21.720 come in. I just thought I saw you roll your eyes. 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:24.920 Oh yeah, no, I was just I was just like 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:30.200 looking over because I'm bad, uh with remembering names of things, 0:00:30.240 --> 0:00:32.600 and so I keep looking at this in front of me. 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:34.239 What you'll hear in just a second. I don't want 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:39.000 to spoil this, okay, So welcome Tontificent. I am Danny Fernandez, 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:43.440 and I sitting across from Danny. I know you're like, man, 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:46.239 last week's intro was way spook here like it had 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:50.320 the production value off the charts, the music, the bars. 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:52.559 This one still has the how. I've been enjoying the 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:56.040 How a lot, okay, but we wanted a Danny ramp. No, 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:58.440 oh my gosh, Spook, I'm not going to do that 0:00:58.480 --> 0:01:00.520 to myself. Someone's gonna I'm gonna gets some of them 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:02.800 pull it up later and you might have be the 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:05.640 next CARDI b They're like, oh, she had bars. Actually 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:08.440 sometimes I do get a drink in me. I definitely, yeah, 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:13.880 you'll you'll take one of the other two amigos. I mean, 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:16.880 I'm single, so yeah, you have take off in Quevo. 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:22.360 Now I do Likeevo. Okay, you like mouse like men 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:26.920 if you do know me though, right, yeah, look I 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:29.200 love you Quevo, but you also you know you have 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:33.839 mouse like features. Okay, So yes, welcome to the fourth 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:38.479 week of October. Yes, and today we're getting we were 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:43.440 talking about a pretty spooky creator, which is great because 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:47.320 we have a spooky creator as a guest. You know, 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:50.240 you may know him as a co creator of thrilling 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:54.200 Adventure Hour, and soon you'll know him as the writer 0:01:54.280 --> 0:02:01.120 of the smash hit the future Eisner Award winning comic 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:04.680 book hex Wives. Coming to the stage, I mean coming 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:08.040 to the stands a long day. It's always a long 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:10.679 day when we come in. It's always like eight or 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:14.400 nine at night, coming to the stands from d C 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:17.600 and Vertical Comics. This cover is looking real nice, got 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:20.520 some real spooky vibes. You know, I'm gonna let you 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:23.000 go see it because I I can describe it to you, 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:25.200 but then you might be like, yeah, well, also I 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:26.919 don't want people to be like, if you described it, 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:28.800 I'm not gonna get it. Go get the comic book. 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:34.720 Oh it has some spicies. Oh yeah, So now people 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:37.440 are rushing to the stands. They're like, this girl looks 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:39.280 like me. If you ever want to send me some 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:46.360 spicy situations, well art right here. It's like being on 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:49.240 tumbler scenes. You know, some people have done art of me. 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:51.680 I send it to you. Sometimes it's a little offensive. 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:54.720 You know, my knows doesn't look like that. They all 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:58.200 can't be monaise. I'm gonna have to get some picassos 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:00.560 in the mix too. I'm sorry, can you please introduce 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:04.000 our guest? Oh yeah, I've never said his name because 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:07.320 of course I didn't been black or everyone. Hey, how's it? 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:12.120 How was it just seeing us just go into a 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:15.640 tangent and completely ignore you after you wanted to hear it? 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:20.680 I listen several items. First of all, I would love 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:25.440 if before this comic hits the stands, it hits the stage. Well, 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:27.280 you know, I'll put it up on the show. I 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:30.280 don't know actually how much of this we can Yeah, well, 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:33.040 we'll do a live reading of this at the Improv 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:36.440 in Hollywood. Come down in Melrows doing a live reading 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:39.880 of hex Wives and uh soon to be bumped by 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:45.280 Christ'eliah doing sixty minutes of shouting into a mic. Uh Secondly, 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:48.520 I loved that Danny was leafing through it as you 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:51.360 were talking, and seeing her reaction was so satisfying. And 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:53.000 I would kind of love if you just read the 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:59.320 comic what we said just silently. I feel like our one. 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:01.960 I mean, it's the artwork and it is really cool. 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:04.920 But to like ore, we're doing October. Our fans are 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:06.880 really in the spooky stuff. And three, they are also 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:09.480 into the spicies. We know that they are. They follow 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:12.839 Iffie and I. They definitely are, so yeah, and that's cool. 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:15.800 Have you been over at the d C offices I have. Yeah, 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:20.160 I was over there recently for with MAD. They're there too. Yeah. 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:23.320 Are you doing stuff for Mad? Uh? No, I'm not. 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:25.839 I mean, I'm like pitching them stuff. But I was 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:29.240 over there for a twitch stream that they did, so 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:32.039 I was a guest or whatever on there. But my 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:34.960 friend um Ali Gertz is one of the editors there. 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:39.279 She's awful. She's a bad person. Yeah. And then our friend, 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:43.960 our friend Hector Navarro is a host DC Daily. Absolutely, Yeah, 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:46.240 which I think I'm doing. I just heard I'm supposed 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:51.640 to do Daily like next week. Yeah. Hector has with 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:55.839 him he has an encyclopedic knowledge of comics and like 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:59.320 a true appreciation love of all things, Like it's very 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:03.080 hard for him to dislike anything which is good. I 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:05.800 feel like in the Nerds space you need more that, 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:11.080 Like there's so much energy towards hate because good, good 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:15.480 rants get clicks, you know, good praises get skipped. You know, 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:17.680 it's not what I really love about the show, if 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:20.400 you'll allow. Oh yeah, of course. Is that you to 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:25.279 celebrate the things you love rather than taking two tasks 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:29.480 you don't care for that, Yeah, it's okay. Danielle dropped 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:32.000 like five f bombs last time and I caught them 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:33.800 and I was like, oh here this here we do 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:36.200 a bleep here? Yeah, she was, she was, she was 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:38.240 going a hammer and I was all about it because 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:44.480 for Buffy. Ye, So before we even jump into Alfred Hitchcock, 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:46.159 I want to give you a chance to kind of 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:48.400 tell us about Hex. Why let the listeners know what 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:50.719 it's about, what they're in store for. Yeah, I think 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:53.480 I feel like if people listen to this podcast, then 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:55.760 they are into the stuff that I am into, which 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:58.120 means they will like this book because it's like made 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:01.360 of all the stuff I'm into. The hex Wives is 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:06.159 basically Bewitched plus the Stepford Wives. It's about a powerful 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:11.000 coven of witches who is being held against their knowledge 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:15.800 by a cabal of men who fear them and therefore 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:18.680 try to control them. So the first six issues finds 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:21.080 them all of the suburban housewives, and they don't know 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:24.960 that's that they are actually these powerful which is um. 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:27.520 So it's a literal empowerment story. It's also kind of 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:31.440 a documentary about America. Yeah. I was gonna try and 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:33.840 make that joke and then you beat me to the punchline. Oh, 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:38.520 I will not shut up your show. Feel free to shove. Well, no, 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:43.000 this is great because one of these because everyone didn't 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:45.279 get to hear you before. You are so excited to 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:48.320 talk Alfred Hitchcock, And I will say, as much of 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:52.320 a fan I am of him, I am not versed 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:54.320 in his catalog, Like I think the ones I've seen 0:06:54.400 --> 0:07:01.560 is Rear Window, some of Birds, Yeah, mostly by some 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:03.359 of Birds. I mean that scene where she's in the 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:12.400 phone booth and she's like these birds. Um. Yeah, you 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:18.480 know I skipped Psycho and saw the sequel American Psycho. Uh, 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:21.320 I know, I definitely want like I've have you never 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:25.600 seen Psycho. I've always been afraid to because I grew 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:28.480 up out here. So we would go to Universal Studios 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:30.680 and we'd go by the Psycho House and the music, 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:33.720 and it scared me so much. I was always afraid 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:36.200 to see the movie. And then there was a point 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:38.200 where it's like, I definitely need to see this movie. 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:41.240 But then it was just it was before Netflix, and 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:44.520 then you know, then you get backlogged, and there's been 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:46.160 so many nights have been like I need to see 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:50.120 all the movies I haven't seen. Uh, buckle up before 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:52.240 we get into this. I'm about to make a few 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:54.640 nerds fall out their seats and sit down. Here's a 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:57.440 list of like, need to see movies I have not 0:07:57.480 --> 0:08:00.320 seen yet. I have been seen Princess Bride, I haven't 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:06.040 seen Uh Monty Python. Holy Grail. To see someone go 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:09.960 to Monty Python is hilarious because someone just like at 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:14.800 first did wasn't gonna fall out. I'm turning this off. 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:18.280 Listen if you listener, if you disagree with me about 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:24.239 Monty Python, by two of my books, that'll show me. Yeah, dude, dude, 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:30.320 give give give been the Nike treatment. It's me Bernard 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:35.880 Bins I'll take it. I'll listen before this is gonna 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:38.760 be a ten minute thing about Hitchcock, but every we'll 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:42.040 talk about everything else for fifty minutes. Um. My favorite 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:45.720 Monty Python and I am you know, I came to 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:49.960 it as a young person. My favorite Monty Python show 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:53.720 or film is the documentary about the making of Monty Python, 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:56.720 because I love behind the scenes stuff. But I only 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:59.240 like Monty Python. Okay, Like I like all those guys. 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:01.360 I think they're funny. I want to watch them talk 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:03.840 about their process. But none of the movies are the 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:08.520 show really grabbing. I've never seen Citizen Kane. Okay, it's 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:11.400 a little boring. Yeah, there's a couple like that in 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:14.160 that wheelhouse that I think are all the same movie. 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:17.080 I've never I've missed it and I never cared to 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:19.280 see it until like it became such a point of 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:22.520 contention because of a certain host I used to work 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:25.360 for who married into the family and uh and it 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:28.840 was you know, it was like ever, it just was 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:32.240 so taboo. Yeah, there's only one person in this town 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:37.720 married to a hearst uh. Which that's when you do 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:40.880 your Citizen Kane episode, you will explain that Citizen is 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:43.920 based on the Hearst family. Yeah, oh man, Yeah, so 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:46.080 Schindler's List. I was going to say too, and I 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:51.240 really Oh it's hilarious. I know what it's about, but 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:56.280 I kind of get Citizen Are They both like yeah that, 0:09:56.320 --> 0:10:01.160 but are dealing with judicial prisoner shows. One is a 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:05.120 Holocaust movie and the other one is a bad rich man. Okay, 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:09.120 so the Man, Yeah, I guess yeah, that's what I 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:12.880 got confused. Yeah, they're both great movies, make no mistake. 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:16.280 But on the other hand, I've seen It's Wonderful Life 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:18.679 like fifteen times, which is a better movie than both 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:22.200 of us. I've seen him like yeah multiple Christmas is Yeah. 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:24.400 And the last thing I'll say is you'd be surprised 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:27.560 like it was funny because like it was not like 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:30.280 we were in the writer's room just like cranking out 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:34.400 Citizen Kane. But it felt like it felt like as 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:37.079 soon as they got married for some reason, there was 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:40.199 a lot of Citizen Kane jokes. So so it's a 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:44.559 it was very weird um all round. I would love 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:48.160 if you two did an episode about people's like gaps 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:52.720 in nerd knowledge. It would be oh man, that would 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:55.560 be a good like runner to do where it is 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:59.120 like a flip where we find something we like, I 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:01.400 do bring in so one who's like a huge princess 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:04.640 bride or Monty python head and they just just dumb. 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:06.560 I mean, that's kind of what this is gonna be 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:09.520 full disclosure with Alfred Hitchcock, which is why I'm so 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:13.760 excited that you're jazzed on it. Because if we aren't 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:16.840 the source of like excitement and knowledge, we like to 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:18.920 have a guest on who is that source? Because that's 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:22.400 what this is about. Is really just this show is 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:26.000 the equivalent of when you're getting your friend into something 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:28.160 that you're into and you're just like this and this 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:32.000 and uh so let's jump right into it and start 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:36.440 off with Alfred Hitchcock's youth instead of that. Can I 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:39.400 make a suggestion, I don't have that thing that you're 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:42.080 both looking at in front of me. But I think 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:46.679 and I'm not so interested in biography of people because 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:50.439 I don't care about people. Um. I think the best 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:53.480 way or about a good way to talk about Hitchcock 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:57.280 is to look at his three best movies, because he 0:11:57.400 --> 0:12:02.360 made three masterpieces basically um Psycho, Vertigo and Rear Window 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:09.600 and way that was hilarious because I'm sorry, I'm gonna 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:14.800 just i gotta let the listeners know what just Danny 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:18.680 was in full agreement for for a time and was 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:22.760 they were. They were bonding and connecting on such a level. 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:25.400 And then by the time the end of that list hit, 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:27.839 it was like someone took a knife and cut that 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:31.000 bond in half and they both shot away from each other. 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:33.680 And I was like, whoa, I only know one of 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:39.040 those movies. Um, um m, well, no, I totally agree. 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:40.520 We normally like to give like a tiny bit of 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:42.960 the back story for the person. And also we're clearly 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:45.520 going to talk about the birds. Oh no, no, I'm 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:48.920 not saying solely about because then there's like the second tier, 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:52.080 like great movie like north By Northwest is a great 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:55.360 but it's not a masterpiece. Yeah, and never get into that. 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:58.400 And and to be honest, this is what we to 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:02.000 be honest on our show. Uh, we do get kind 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:03.880 of you know, diing from people that are like, we 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:05.920 didn't talk about this, and you didn't talk about this episode. 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:08.640 I'm like, we literally can't you know? And and it 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:12.480 sounds a person like you already know that episode really well, 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:14.960 so I don't know what I mean. Yeah, but I 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:18.360 like to hear ya. That is, like I do tend 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:20.520 to go first to the episodes where I'm like, when 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:23.439 that Buffy episode came out, yes, I want to hear 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:26.439 all you enjoy it. We picked like the one and 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:28.280 we let Danielle pick them, but it was also ones 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:31.160 that had been ranked and also by Joss is like 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:34.600 his favorite ones and so but her you know, kind 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:36.800 of also agreeing with that. But which is where I 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:39.319 sort of got the idea to like, look at the Yeah, 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:43.800 that's what I think, rather than bish movies. Yeah, you're 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:46.160 totally right. Um, so let's just let's just give some 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:48.839 background on our dude. Yeah, and then we'll jump into 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:52.160 these three grades. But I'm already through British movies whatever 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:56.160 and started over there, which will learn Look something I 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:59.920 learned another brit fact. I hope you're ready for tang 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:03.920 slick Rick born in He's British. He was born in 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:06.679 the United Kingdom but moved to New York like when 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:12.000 he was like tin, so he barely was American. Rick 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:14.160 cast yeah, because I was like, what happened? How do 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:17.640 we get grimes? As slick Rick is like, And I 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:19.480 was like Okay, that makes sense. Same thing with M. F. 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:21.480 Doom Born in UK came to l A, I mean, 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:25.360 came to the USA and it still rhymes. It's still rhymes. 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:27.560 I don't know why I said l A anyway. Sir, 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:33.680 oh yep, I see the English now. Sir Alfred Hitchcock, Uh. 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:38.360 Sir Alfred Joseph Hitchcock was an English film director and producer, 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:41.680 widely regarded as one of the most influential filmmakers in 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:44.040 the history of cinema, and he was known as the 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:46.960 Master of Suspense, which actually I'd like to give that 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:51.440 title to my mama, who really, you know, really kept going. 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:56.400 What is M. Knight known as? Then the Master of Twists? 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:59.280 And I will give him that title. Then what's Chubby Checker? No, No, 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:04.000 We're just gonna go down this line. Oh, this is 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:07.600 gonna be a goofy one. Uh. He directed over fifty 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:11.560 feature films in a career spanning six decades. Really long. 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:14.880 That's like Ron Howard in it? Yeah? Is that what 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:17.960 it's called? Ron Howard? How old is run out? He's 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:20.920 still doing it. Yeah, he's still doing it. He's been around, 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:23.320 I mean maybe not as directing, but he's definitely been 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:26.800 in Hollywood his entire life. He became known as having 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:29.280 a cameo in his films. He was the first Stanley 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:34.600 There we go, he did, I mean he did, he did. 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:36.760 And so as a teen, this is how he got 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:39.200 into into film. As a teen, he lived with his 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:42.280 widowed mother. He didn't have a girlfriend or much of 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:44.200 a social life. This is something that he's talked about. 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:46.920 And he would take solo trips to the theater. So 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:50.160 at sixteen he was reading trade magazines and visiting London's 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:53.720 movie palaces. Three years later he wrote a short story 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:57.320 called Gas and that was about a moral woman's descent 0:15:57.400 --> 0:15:59.960 into the decadence of Paris. And that's kind of gonna 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:03.520 be a theme with him, especially in his earlier films, 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:07.600 but in his continued film kind of this like Pristine Woman, 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:12.640 the you know, beautiful blonde that kind of delves into 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:18.760 horror or sin. It's interesting too. I mean to say that, 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:20.440 like that's going to be one of the themes. We 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:22.760 talked about that and that is the major theme. But 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:27.040 like when you talk about Hitchcock, you talk about themes 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:29.680 because there are the sort of running He's the most 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:33.640 consistent filmmaker that there are these running ideas and also 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:36.480 running technical things that go that you can trace through 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:39.480 his whole career. So I think it's interesting to bring 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:41.480 up that, Like he started going to movies when he 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:44.120 was a teenager, which was really at the time of 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:46.840 the birth of movies. Yeah, Like he grew up in 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:49.680 movies at the same time movies grew up. And so 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:53.120 when he sort of made he started making movies as 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:55.440 a young man, and he made like twenty four British 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:59.200 films and like twelve Years or something like that, And 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:02.200 it was in a time that he sort of synthesized 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:05.840 all the things that movies could and would be when 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:10.879 it came to both performance and story, but also the 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:15.960 technical aspects like moving the camera. Yeah, sound appear like 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:18.280 he made a bunch of silent films. That was actually 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:22.080 his start. He got in in nine He got to 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:25.160 start at an American movie company called Famous Players Last 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:27.719 Key that had moved to London. And so what he 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:30.800 did was he made sample title cards, like so the 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:33.399 way that like um that they would actually draw like. 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:36.720 He was a title card illustrator back for the black 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:39.880 and white silent films, and so he made a bunch 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:41.199 of those and they gave him the job. And then 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:43.959 he started working in props and sets, as you do 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:46.200 when you're when you're working for a movie company, and 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:49.119 someone gave him like a slips like, hey, there's this 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:52.960 company company Adobe out here and that's trying to trying 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:56.920 to encroach upon our photoshops. So, okay, I'm gonna cut 0:17:56.960 --> 0:18:02.600 the jokes in the end of the jokes of the episode. 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:05.720 I like to remind people we are how stuff works comedy, 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:07.919 and you know, it's kind of boring when you're just 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:14.240 reciting someone's like, yeah, exactly, this ain't being comedy. We'll 0:18:14.280 --> 0:18:17.240 step it up. We'll step it up. But then Paramount 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:20.280 pulled out of London in two but Hitchhock he didn't 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:23.840 stop there. He was hired as an assistant director by 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:26.600 a firm that would be later known as Gainsborough Picture, 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:28.639 and then he worked his way up and had his 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:32.119 first thriller, The Lodge, a story of the London fog, 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:38.960 that dropped in nineteen seven. Man, that is exactly nine. 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:46.280 Are you trying to do the math before? No? Okay, 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:49.560 So The Lodger, which was about the hunt for a 0:18:49.720 --> 0:18:52.920 serial killer who wearing a black cloak and carrying a 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:57.000 black bag is murdering young women in London. So again, um, 0:18:57.000 --> 0:18:59.480 this was largely based off of his fascination with Jack 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:03.200 the Ripper. Again, we have this this blonde woman that 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:08.240 appears and that will continue to be a trope for him. 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:10.200 Do you feel at all, like, I know, he's such 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:13.399 a respected director, but I mean, this has to be 0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:17.080 problemat you're smiling, has to be seen. I mean, it's 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:18.439 not that I want to go back and look at 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:20.399 because we get kind of people get upset when you 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:24.040 look back at art as like, especially when it happens 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:28.200 you know, but you know, it doesn't matter. Some people 0:19:28.320 --> 0:19:31.200 like Rod Serling, we learned we're able to be progressive 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:33.800 even in a time which it's not accepted. That's true, 0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:36.359 I think, you know. And and that's why I mentioned 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:38.840 like we talked about his masterpieces, which sort of pointed 0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:42.920 to his obsessions also, and his obsessions are what makes 0:19:43.000 --> 0:19:46.719 him problematic in part. The other part of what makes 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:49.359 him problematic is he was not a nice person. No, 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:51.560 and he was I watched you can watch YouTube videos 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:54.240 because there's footage of him and he was super inappropriate 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:56.679 with his actresses. Is one of him like lifting up 0:19:56.680 --> 0:19:59.399 her dress and like while she's speaking, and like the 0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:02.520 way he would alert and so it's yeah, it's really 0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:07.080 interesting and I'm sorry to interrupt. Um, I there's I 0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:09.560 always read about that stuff and I saw those videos too, 0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:12.399 and I thought, like, this guy's a monster. Um. And 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:15.680 then I was reading this great biography by Peter Ackroyd 0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:18.679 of Hitchcock, and it's sort of a great casual biography. 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:20.679 It's not super in depth because as I said, I 0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:24.359 don't like to get into biography. And the portrait he 0:20:24.440 --> 0:20:29.640 paints of Hitchcock is basically as a control freak who 0:20:29.720 --> 0:20:33.720 was afraid of everything, so as a way of quelling 0:20:33.800 --> 0:20:37.439 his own anxiety and his own fear of the world. 0:20:37.440 --> 0:20:39.760 Like he was afraid to walk from one end of 0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:42.440 a set to another because he was afraid someone would 0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:43.960 come talk to him and he wouldn't know how to 0:20:43.960 --> 0:20:48.960 have that interaction. So he was this neurotic, anxious guy. Um. 0:20:49.040 --> 0:20:51.879 And so the way he treated other people was to 0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:54.960 utterly control them. Um. And he did like he was 0:20:55.000 --> 0:21:00.000 particularly hard on women because he was so afraid of them, 0:21:00.400 --> 0:21:03.320 which doesn't excuse it by any means, but it's his 0:21:03.359 --> 0:21:06.640 way of dealing with the world, which is fascinating in 0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:10.440 terms of his movies because all of that is in there, 0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:14.520 Like his movies are so loaded with his personality. Yeah, 0:21:14.600 --> 0:21:17.280 another thing that I learned as we were researching this 0:21:17.359 --> 0:21:19.679 is that another another element of that was that he 0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:22.520 was very uncomfortable with his body. He was uncomfortable with 0:21:22.520 --> 0:21:24.720 his sexuality. In fact, he actually said that he was 0:21:24.760 --> 0:21:27.480 celibate at thirty even though he was married, he was 0:21:27.520 --> 0:21:29.159 married with a child, and said that he was no 0:21:29.240 --> 0:21:32.760 longer having sex anymore, and so the but he also 0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:35.040 and I read that too, but he also loved his 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:37.439 wife so much. Yeah, I mean, you can do both. 0:21:38.560 --> 0:21:41.800 But he was so so like buttoned up and so 0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:44.440 stand offish and that you would think that he would 0:21:44.440 --> 0:21:48.120 never display any emotion. But later in their lives, when 0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:51.480 Alma got sick, like, he was on the floor, literally 0:21:51.480 --> 0:21:54.000 on the floor of whatever film he was directing at 0:21:54.000 --> 0:21:56.560 the time because he couldn't deal with it. Yeah. Well, 0:21:56.640 --> 0:22:00.240 it's so interesting because just once again touch back on 0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:03.439 the whole Rod Serling thing. We when we had Twilight 0:22:03.520 --> 0:22:06.920 and we're talking about Rod Serling using his fears and 0:22:07.119 --> 0:22:12.040 his shows and everything was so obviously kind of touching 0:22:12.080 --> 0:22:15.120 on his experiences with the war, and I feel like, 0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:18.800 even what I know about all the Hitchcock films, it 0:22:18.880 --> 0:22:22.639 seems very the same situation. Is if you look at 0:22:22.680 --> 0:22:25.399 something like rear Window, the one that I've actually seen 0:22:25.720 --> 0:22:29.320 someone who is witnessing something and it can do nothing 0:22:29.400 --> 0:22:32.639 about it. Of course, that would make a control freak 0:22:32.960 --> 0:22:36.840 freak out. You're in a situation that that you want 0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:39.600 to do something and you can't do it. You're stuck, 0:22:40.200 --> 0:22:44.080 that is, and you know it's it's kind of crazy. 0:22:44.440 --> 0:22:47.160