1 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: Get you ready for game number three. Already two thousand 2 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: nineteen Cleveland brown season. This is the best podcast available. 3 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 1: Jason Gibbs, Who's Nick Shook, He's Andrew Gribble. We all 4 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: got the memo everybody's wearing Browns gere today. That might 5 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 1: be the first I I think you and I usually do. 6 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: I think Gribble is the one who's I don't know 7 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: if he's the rebel. He has a birthday. Boy, let's 8 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: just say he has better fashion taste than us. Yeah, 9 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: I just I go with a variety of looks. Yeah, 10 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: because if if you wear some bronze gear, odds, are 11 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:45,279 Speaker 1: you wearing the same thing as someone else every day? 12 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: In our department especially, It's very, very true because we 13 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: do have one person that orders everybody the same thing. Yes, yeah, 14 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: all right, yeah with that, keep it. That's outside the 15 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: box thinking that I don't have. I don't know what 16 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: shooks doing, but apparently, wen I'm wearing Brown's gear, I'm 17 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: wearing the same thing to someone every day. All right. 18 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: The Browns. We have a game on Sunday, hard to 19 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: believe already third game of the season's flying by. It 20 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: is flying as the Los Angeles Rams come to town 21 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: Sunday Night football first time since two thousand eight. Uh 22 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: that we will be featured on Sunday Night and looking 23 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: forward to it. The crowd will be crazy, everybody will 24 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: be amped up. But this is a l A. RAMS 25 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: team that comes into town with a lot to be 26 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: worried about. If you're the Cleveland Browns and Freddie Kitchens, yeah, 27 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: I mean they're well balanced on all three phases. I 28 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: mean they don't. I think their offense got a lot 29 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: of attention last year, but really, I think to me, 30 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: the thing that worries me most is their defense. They 31 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: have the best player in the NFL and Aaron Donald 32 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: on their defensive line. They have a really good secondary 33 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: that got better this offseason by adding Eric Weddle. Uh. 34 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: And you just it's a team that just I know 35 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: the same. It's had their issues with with Drew Brees 36 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: and everything like that, but to limit the Saints to 37 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: nine points is impressive, no matter if it's a home game, 38 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: no matter if you knock out the quarterback. They're playing 39 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: pretty well. They they bottled up Carolina pretty well in 40 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: that first game. Uh. And they just do they really 41 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: do everything well. They passed the ball all they run 42 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: the ball well. Uh, they make their field goals, they 43 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: do crazy stuff on punts. I mean, this is a 44 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: really good team for a reason. And honestly, I mean, 45 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, if you play that Super Bowl ten times, 46 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,399 Speaker 1: how many times are the Rams? When do you think 47 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: maybe I give him four? I mean, how many times 48 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: does Shawn Mack? They not admittedly watched too much film before, 49 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:37,679 Speaker 1: and I think, but I think they were the more 50 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: talented team by far in that Super Bowl. They just 51 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: got out coach, and I wonder if they had a 52 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: couple more cracks at it, they might have won a 53 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: few times. And I just and they really did bring 54 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 1: back basically everyone that matters. The only one who really 55 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: they lost was in Dominansue, and then they went and 56 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: replaced him with an edge rusher. I know he's in 57 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: an edge rusher, but in that defense, it's kind of interchangeable. 58 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 1: They replaced him with Clay Matthews, who's playing very well. Yeah. 59 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a team that usually worry about 60 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: Super Bowl hangover for the team that loses. But they 61 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 1: weren't built. They They've got all their pieces and they're 62 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 1: they're playing pretty well. Well. Again, I think that they 63 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: see a window. Here's your window. You have the quarterback, 64 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: and yeah, you just gave him a big extension, but 65 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: this is your time now to make something happen. And 66 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: they've stacked the roster since they moved from St. Louis. 67 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: They made it a point that we're gonna win, and 68 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: we need to win now to build the fan base, 69 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: get a jump start on the on the Chargers, and 70 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: kind of went over that area of the country from 71 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: a from a fan standpoint, and that's what they're doing. 72 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: It's funny too, because the Charges are playing pretty good 73 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:42,839 Speaker 1: football as well. But you know what I mean, let's 74 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: think about how many franchises and even franchises currently that 75 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: that just kind of just drift around. You know that 76 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: you go through a season and they have no real 77 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: definitive answer or option under center, and then the Rams 78 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: go and spend their first pick of that draft on 79 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: Jared Goff and d of just forced him into being effective. 80 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: I mean, he's been good the last two years with 81 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh and and it seems like they just continue 82 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: to trend upward and he's he's developed into a legitimate 83 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: NFL quarterback. And there were times when he was younger, 84 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: especially his first year, he stood in the pocket pretty long, 85 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: which is always gave him credit for, and even under duress. 86 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: But there were times we were like, I'm not sure 87 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: if this pick is gonna work out. Carson Wentz looks 88 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: a lot better than Jared goffas but right now the 89 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: opposite is true. Jared Goff is a legit quarterback and 90 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 1: he's somebody that an opposing defense is gonna have to 91 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: be worried about every week. And then you add in 92 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: the rest of their pieces. They've got three solid receivers, 93 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: they've got an excellent running back in Todd Gurley, they 94 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: have a pretty good backup too, and they have an 95 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: offensive line that changed two pieces in the off season 96 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 1: but hasn't really seemed to miss a beat. So there's 97 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: really no weakness there. You know, we spent a lot 98 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: of time this offseason talking about this Browns team and saying, well, 99 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: I don't really see a weakness, and and that may 100 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: be true, but you look at the Rams, I really 101 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: don't see a weakness of that team. No, they don't 102 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: top to bottom. I mean, as much as we talk 103 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: about offense, as much as we talk about defense, the 104 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: special teams might be the best unit on that football 105 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: team in terms of how they play weekend and week out, 106 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: almost to perfection, from the kicker to the punter to 107 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: the cover June. Yeah, they've got Greg's airline nicknamed Legatron 108 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: for a reason. They've got Johnny Hecker, who is an 109 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: amazing punter, who is a unit of a punter. By 110 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: the way, he's like six ft five. He's a stud. 111 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: And Jojo Natson is a dangerous returner. You know Mike 112 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: prefers today, Jojo Natson is terrifying to him. He's just 113 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: he's one of those guys with elite speed. He's got 114 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: the ability to get the corner and once he gets 115 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: the corner, watch out. He almost did that last week 116 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: and ended up tripping up and it was like a 117 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: return of thirty something yards, but he could have gone 118 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: to the house. I mean, you just see this guy's 119 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: potential every time he returns to kicks. So yeah, there's 120 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: no weaknesses anywhere. Yeah, I mean, it's it's just you 121 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: got the Rams and the Patriots on on your schedule, 122 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: arguably the two best teams in the NFL right now. Yeah, 123 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: and they came out. Both teams came out strong out 124 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: the gate. They're looking very much like themselves, if not better. 125 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 1: I think the Patriots look better than they did last 126 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: year at any point last year. Uh. And I think 127 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: the Rams have something to prove this year. The only 128 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: thing you can hope happens is there are some ugly 129 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: not ugly, but not as pretty road numbers for this 130 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: team as compared to home. But I thought it was 131 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: impressive the way they played Week one going into Carolina. 132 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: But I think there are a different team at home. 133 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: They play really well there, and they're a team that 134 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: plays really well with the lead, So that's not It's 135 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: not a team you want to fall behind with because 136 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: they were. They will keep the throttle down and they 137 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: will make the game a laugher if they have to that, 138 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: and and and one other thing I can point out, 139 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: Todd Gurley might not be the Todd Gurley was a 140 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: couple of years ago. But they're dividing his carries a 141 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: lot more. He only he has less than their carries 142 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: right now, which is crazy compared to what it used 143 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: to be a couple of years ago. But Malcolm Brown 144 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: is really good and Darrell Henderson is a good change 145 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: of pace back. Yeah, and you know, it's it's kind 146 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: of strange because how often do we see a team 147 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: that was really good last year come flying out of 148 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: the gate. And we see both teams that were in 149 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl come flying out of the gate and 150 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: and are clearly the two best teams NFL right now, 151 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 1: and we just happened to play host to one of 152 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: them in Week three and might have some additional adversity 153 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: we're dealing with this week if we look at the 154 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: injury report, so you know, not a no, no easy 155 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: sledding for the Browns. Maybe last week a little bit more, 156 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: but it's it's definitely not a schedule. And we knew 157 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: this looking at it going into the season that well, 158 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: you know, it's gonna be a tough first six weeks 159 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: or so. But it seems like it's only getting a 160 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: little bit tougher. So we'll see how this team handles it. 161 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: And it is getting tougher. Uh. The injury report, Uh, 162 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: I think every day we kind of wake up and 163 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: we hope when the injury report comes out it'll be 164 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: a lot better than it was the day before, and 165 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: it's not. Yeah I missed the Week one injury report. Yeah, yeah, 166 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: where I just I look at it now, and I 167 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: don't know if there's you know this it's Thursday. It's 168 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: a little early, but I don't know if there's gonna 169 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: be any healthy scratches on on Sunday. I mean you 170 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: might have that many guys down for this one. Yeah, 171 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: I mean that's there are reports out there. Ian Rapp 172 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: report from NFL Network selling the Christian Kirksy will miss 173 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: Sunday's game with his chest injury, whatever that might be. 174 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: We know about David and Joeku's wrist, and they're trying 175 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: to figure out is Freddie sat today, what the course 176 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: of action is going to be with that. You have 177 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: a whole your safety room right now. If you had 178 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: to start today, it's probably gonna be Whitehead and Murray 179 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: starting at the safeties for you. A little more optimistic 180 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: on Burnett since he's been out there at least a 181 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, and we got that news today. Yeah, 182 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: so I think there's and then Hubbard, you know, walking 183 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: around in a boot. You know, at one point it 184 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: was early in the week, and you know, last year, 185 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: I would caution Browns fans jc treader for the last 186 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: seven weeks of the year wore a boot like through 187 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: Friday practice. Friday played fully and never missed a snap 188 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 1: on Sunday. So hopefully that's not the course of action 189 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: because we're only in week three, But right now that 190 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: you know what, you can only hope that that's going 191 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: to be the case. This is why you have training camp, 192 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: That's why you have the preseason. This is why they 193 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: snaps matter for these guys. I mean, and you, especially 194 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: at tackle, as has been displayed so far with Kendall 195 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: Lamb Hurt. There's not just this ripe market of tackles 196 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: out there that you can just plug in to your system. 197 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: I mean, so you're gonna if you don't have Hubbard, 198 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be justin McCrae and you're gonna probably 199 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,719 Speaker 1: have to make some adjustments to make to make things 200 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: a little easier on him. But you can't do too 201 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: much because you have to account for and Donald in 202 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: the middle there. So I mean, I think it's gonna 203 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: be tough, but uh, for me, that just makes it 204 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: even more imperative that you get the ball off quicker. 205 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: You don't put Baker in situations where he's holding onto 206 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: it a long time, because when you've got issues at 207 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: at one of the tackle positions. Uh, you don't want 208 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: to leave your quarterback vulnerable back there, because they'll make 209 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:49,839 Speaker 1: him pay. Yeah. This is not gonna be a game 210 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: of deep shots at least not a lot of deep 211 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: shots attempted, and rightfully so, because they're gonna be facing 212 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: pressure from all angles from most of this game, especially 213 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: if you have an injury upfront. Yeah. No, I think 214 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: that a lot is going to be asked of Baker 215 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: Mayfield and for some of the leaders on the team 216 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: that are healthy to carry this football team on Sunday night. 217 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: How do you get Baker on track? Hollywood Higgins, looks 218 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 1: like you're starting to practice a little bit. Knock on wood, 219 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: He's going to be ready to go Sunday night hopefully. Yeah. 220 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: I mean that that has to only help. I would 221 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: I would just say get him in rhythm, get get 222 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: and get the rams, you know, just keep sustaining drives, 223 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: which is something this team hasn't done. Really. I mean that. 224 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: I was just reading an really good article from Connor 225 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: or over at the MMQB analyzing what the Browns did 226 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,599 Speaker 1: against the Jets, and there are some numbers offensively that 227 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: put the Browns in the same categories as the New 228 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: York Giants, which is not where you want to be. 229 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: But then your tops near the top of the league 230 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: in explosive place. So this has been a I would say, 231 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: kind of a boom or bust offense right now. And 232 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 1: I don't know if you can survive that way against 233 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: this particular team. You can win some games that way, 234 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: but in this matchup, you want to be holding the 235 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 1: ball as long as possible, sustain drives, and really finding 236 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: a rhythm on offense. Yeah. I think if you think 237 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: about boom or bus, you think about both ends of 238 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: the spectrum. Right Well, this is a defense that's not 239 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: going to give up the boom end of the spectrum. 240 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: So you want to come away from the bus end 241 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: of the spectrum as much as possible. So if you're 242 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: not gonna get here and you end up here, let's 243 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: bring this here and come back to even And the 244 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: way you can do that is just with a well paced, 245 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: well balanced offense. It's not trying to do too much 246 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:20,719 Speaker 1: with every play, but just trying to pick up three 247 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: four yards of play because I guess what, you got 248 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: three downs, you get ten yards, you can do three 249 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 1: or four yards of play. Then you're gonna get a 250 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: fresh set of downs and methodically move the ball down 251 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: the field, and you know what, maybe you win this 252 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: game with time of possession because you know you're gonna 253 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: have to rely on your defense a lot as it is, 254 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: but you don't want them out there all day. So 255 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: that kind of offense is really conducive for potentially coming 256 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 1: away with a win here, and you have the players 257 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: to do it still. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, you absolutely do. 258 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: No this this this is There's a lot of injuries, 259 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: but this is this is They're not gonna you can't 260 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: use this as an excuse. I mean, like you've built 261 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 1: this roster in a way that you should have capable replacements, 262 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: and honestly, the only one of these injuries in terms 263 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: of backups, there's a couple that makes me a little 264 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: nervous that I think really can hurt you, and they're 265 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 1: both on offense. I think it's going with McCrae right tackle. 266 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: He's just he's not he's a guard and you're putting 267 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 1: him a right tackle. I think that's that raises your concern. 268 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: But he I think he did play well against the Titans. 269 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: And then Najoku, you just you don't have a replacement 270 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: for that. You have Dee Demetrius Harris, who was brought 271 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: here to be your complimentary piece to Najoku. Now he's 272 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: your number one guy. And then you're relying a little 273 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: bit more in Farrell Brown doesn't have a ton of 274 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: experience and Ricky Siels Jones. I mean that that's your 275 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: those are the guys you're rolling with. So otherwise, on defense, 276 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: I'm I'm okay with what you have at safety. I 277 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: think I'm okay with Mac Wilson at that spot. I 278 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: think it's it's I think it's a drop off from 279 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: Kirksey to Wilson, But I think you can survive that injury. 280 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: I just the ones on offense, because that's the area 281 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: where you're already struggling. Those are the ones where you 282 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: would have loved to see those guys beheld and more 283 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 1: most importantly, above all else, if you eliminate your your penalties, 284 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: your self inflicted mistakes, want to give yourself a chance 285 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: in a normal season, In a normal season, we would 286 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: have been hand ringing about nine penalties and talking about 287 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: how we need to cut down the penalties. But it 288 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: was half of what you had in Week one, and 289 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: three of them were letting the clock. You know, the 290 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: play clock expires, you take the five yard There were 291 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: no there were There were only a couple crippling penalties, 292 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: I would think. I think I would say the most 293 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: important penalty in that game was Miles is roughing the 294 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 1: pastor that was on the Jets scoring drive. That was 295 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 1: really it. You can't have the yeah, the Sunday night, 296 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 1: the Rams are not the Jets. You can't do that. 297 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: Anytime you do that, they're going to go get seven. 298 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: They're not going to get three, They're going to get seven. 299 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: You have to play about as good as a game 300 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: as you can play, fundamentally on both sides of the football, 301 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: and you have to play as mistake free as possible. 302 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: That's both in in playing within your scheme, within yourselves 303 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: and also avoiding those penalties. And you know, just looking 304 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: at their depth chart now, I just think about, you know, 305 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 1: the possibility of McCree and right tackle, and I think, well, man, 306 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: he's gonna have to deal with the likes of Clay 307 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: Matthews or of a Michael Brocker's And they made some 308 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: work of the back h Saints offensive lineman after they 309 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: lost Andres Pete in the middle of that game last week. 310 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 1: So you really hoped that with the week of preparation 311 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: and his experience and his familiarity within James Campon's offensive 312 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: line tutelage, that he'll be able to step in there 313 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: and play I think above his head because it's gonna 314 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: be necessary. We have the players, we have talent, we 315 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: can match up. We just gotta play clean. We have 316 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: to play clean. It starts with that, all right, coming up, 317 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: we'll give our keys to Sunday night's game. Right now, though, 318 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: I had a chance to go one on one with 319 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: the Browns rookie kicker Austin Cybert coming off a great 320 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: performance on Sunday night and really all right Monday night, 321 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: I should say, and since that first missed extra point 322 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: has been pretty solid. Both kickers have done a very 323 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: nice job here so far. Yeah, you've gotten I think, 324 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: um it will perfect or near Pro Bowl performance from 325 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: both of these guys. And they're both rookies and and 326 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: they're really embracing. I think once they got those first 327 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: game jitters out of the way, started to get comfortable 328 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: and realized it's a long season. It's longer than anything 329 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: we've ever been through and we have the support of 330 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: our coaching staff, and it also really really helps to 331 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: go get a win. And I think that that just 332 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: slowly builds confidence for them and as they get more 333 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: comfortable and more used to the routine and the environment 334 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: and the stage of playing in the NFL, and just 335 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: like again, you know, the support of their coaching staff, 336 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: they'll only continue to improve. And for now though, it's 337 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: just it's a really strong showing. It's nice to not 338 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: have an issue at kicker at the moment. That Cyber 339 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: bought himself a little equity on week two. Yeah, I 340 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: think that a little bit, a little bit of cushion 341 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: because I think, you know, it's not gonna be a 342 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: perfect year for him, and I think it was a 343 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: tough start to miss your first extra point, uh, and 344 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: then after the preseason that was a little bit up 345 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: and down. But this, this shows you what he can 346 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: do and why you know, if if say, you miss 347 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: a kick one of these upcoming weeks, you don't have 348 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: to start bringing in fifteen guys for tryouts. I mean, 349 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: this is this is your kicker you're rolling with. And 350 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: he showed why with two I mean two good makes 351 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: that those are good field goals outdoors, a little bit 352 00:15:54,960 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: of wind. Good time by him, Good job by him. Uh. 353 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: We sat down, we talked about making those kicks. What 354 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry said to him before halftime after Jarvis made 355 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: that great catch to set up the one field goal. 356 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: And of course we preview the l A Rams and 357 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: they're fantastic special teams unit. Here's Austin Cybert listen. A 358 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: big week for you kicking the football on Monday night? Football? 359 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: Did your posts? Did your notifications on your phone increase 360 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: a little bit? Playing underneath the lights on Monday night? Oh? Yeah, 361 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: a little bit, um, But that's that's what comes with 362 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: playing football. UM. I try and limit my activity on 363 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: those as much as possible before games. Um So I'll 364 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: delete my apps and then I'll redownload them after after 365 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: the game and just kind of helps me psychologically get 366 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: dialed in ready to go. So how many text messages 367 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: do you think you had after the game on Monday? Oh? Shoot, 368 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: I'll get anywhere between a hundred hundred fifty after games. 369 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: Other guys probably get a lot more than that, but 370 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: that's pretty good. What has been the biggest change for 371 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: you in moving from the college game to the pro game, 372 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: kicking the football. Um, I'd say, honestly, just getting a 373 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: new routine down because in college we scored so much 374 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: at Oklahoma on the sideline, I had a different warm 375 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: up whereas to hear, you gotta stay loose, and I 376 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: think just figuring that out will help a ton. And 377 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 1: last the last game, I got a pretty good gist 378 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: at what I need to do to kick well and 379 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 1: just just being smart um and just having fun and 380 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: staying relaxed. Mike Preefer, your special teams coach, was talking 381 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: last week, you know, after you had missed the extra 382 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: point in Week one. He said he just has to 383 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: take his time. He's got to set himself up. How 384 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: much of that is really the whole key to your 385 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: success one way or the other. No, it definitely is. 386 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: A Week one, I was very excited and anxious to 387 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: get out there and get your first NFL game under 388 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: your belt. And this last game, I prided myself on 389 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: staying calm and just staying in the moment, not letting 390 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: all the oh, it's your the NFL like stuff get 391 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: to you. So I definitely think I did a good 392 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: job of staying calm and just just being myself and 393 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: staying true to who I am in my form. You're 394 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: running out on the field right before halftime, Jarvis makes 395 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:16,479 Speaker 1: that incredible catch, gets popped across the middle, gets up, 396 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: Jarvis is all fired up. He's talking everybody. I saw 397 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: him say something to you. I don't know if you 398 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 1: can say what he said or not, but what was 399 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: his message to you as you were running out. I 400 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: just said, come on for put it through. Um, just 401 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: positive feedback. I mean, that's my job to go out 402 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: there and capitalize on that great catch and great pass. 403 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: So that's that's that's what I did. And just having 404 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 1: teammates who are putting the pressure on you a little bit, 405 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 1: it makes me want to come through and and you know, 406 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: finish strong. So so does that It does that also 407 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: include Baker? I know Baker you know talked about he's 408 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: trash talk to you in college and carry that over 409 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: into training camp and whatnot. Yeah, No, just as much 410 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: if a teammates are talking to you and like expecting 411 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 1: you to make kicks and they're getting on you about 412 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: like if you miss kicks, that means they care for 413 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: the team, they care for you, they want the best 414 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: out of you. And I mean I appreciate it. I 415 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 1: mean it just gets me more involved with my teammates 416 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: too if they're talking to me. So, Uh, you have 417 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: the one veteran now in that special team's room. Uh. 418 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: In Charlie Hewlett, you know you and Gillen being the 419 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 1: two rookies. How big a help has he been to you? 420 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: He's been. He's been a really a really big help. 421 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: I think me and Jamie make him feel a little 422 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: bit younger. But now he's he's a good dude. He's 423 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: he's definitely helped us out a lot. Uh. And just 424 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: we're kind of just walking the ropes of being a 425 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: rookie right now, and he's just a good person to 426 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: have to ask questions and just bounce things off of. 427 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: All Right, how often do you and Jamie hang out? 428 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: Is Jamie taking you to any of his hangouts to 429 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: us celebrate with a pint of guinness or a couple 430 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,479 Speaker 1: of points. We he comes over to my house, Um, 431 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 1: we hang out. We hang out quite a bit. Um. Yeah, 432 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: we haven't gone to one of his hangouts. Well, we've 433 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: been to two Bucks. We've hung out there, and Avon, 434 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 1: I haven't been to his his hangouts yet. To get 435 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: a point, but um, I'm sure it'll it'll happen in 436 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: the future. How is your relationship with Jamie It's it's good. Uh. 437 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: I mean we we both have a funny mindset. We 438 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: both worked very hard, and we kind of just class 439 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 1: and bounce things off back and forth and just uh, 440 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 1: just mess with each other and just want to get 441 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: better and be the best that we can be. How 442 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: important is it last week? I know you guys kicked 443 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: down at the stadium prior to the Tennessee game, and 444 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: coach Briefer said it's going to start up again next 445 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: week with you guys going back this week kind of 446 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: be in a short week through a little wrench into that. 447 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: How important is it to get down there and and 448 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: work on kicks in the stadium as opposed to hear Burial, 449 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: I think it's very important. The more you can get 450 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: in there and the more wins you can get used 451 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: to and just get used to the environment of the stadium, 452 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: I think the better you will be. Um. I used 453 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 1: to do that Oklahoma. I'd kicking it once a week 454 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: and then on game day, so two times a weekend. 455 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: I had the winds downpacked. So it was it's like 456 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: the more you know, is is the better when it 457 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: comes to like the winds and conditions. What did you 458 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 1: take away from your meeting with Phil Dawson and training camp? 459 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: It was it was awesome. Um, it's one of the 460 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 1: best to ever do it. Um. So that was just 461 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: cool just getting to meet him and just to see 462 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: his his insight on things. And I was kind of 463 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: like in all, like, I've seen this guy kick for 464 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: I've been kicking since seven, so I know who. I 465 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: don't know who all the guys are in the NFL, 466 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: and and it's I'm I. I've talked to him after 467 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: that as well, just about um, just the winds and 468 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: just different things, just picking his brain a little bit 469 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 1: and he's been there helping me and it's just awesome 470 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: to have a legend like that helping a rookie out. 471 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: So has he given you any advice yet when it 472 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: comes to November and December and kicking here, Not yet, 473 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: but I know the conditions it'll get pretty nasty, um. 474 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 1: But when that time comes, that's when I'll ask him. 475 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: You face a pretty good Special Teams unit this week 476 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 1: in the rams. What have you seen on tape? What 477 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: do you guys have to do? To win that that 478 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: position battle. Yeah no, Um, I know Greg's airline because 479 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: when the Rams were in St. Louis, I'm from St. Louis, 480 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: Greg used to help me kick. So it's kind of 481 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: cool to see, like, Okay, he was in the second 482 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,479 Speaker 1: third year and he's helping me when I was committed 483 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: to Oklahoma and then now we're like meeting up again 484 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: because I haven't seen him since since they left St. Louis. Um, 485 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: so that's pretty neat. I've talked to him a little bit. 486 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: But for for us to win the special teams battle, 487 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: we just gotta make all our kicks have good location, 488 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: good hang time on kickoffs, and we've gotta cover the 489 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 1: field and punts, we just gotta flip the field great 490 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: hang time, and we just gotta play smart, play smart 491 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: football and just do what we can do and we'll 492 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: be all right. All right, Hey, I apreciate it, and 493 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: best of luck Sunday and the rest of the season. 494 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 1: Thank you. We thank Austin Cybert for his time. Wish 495 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: him the best of luck the rest of this year. 496 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: He and Jamie Gillen have done an outstanding job. Charlie 497 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 1: Hewitt has been that veteran in the group that I 498 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: think is stabilized those two a little bit, giving them 499 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: a little uh grounding when they've needed it, uh and 500 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: a little levity at the same time as well as 501 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: he mentioned having a little fun and you know, getting 502 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: some laughs in that room a little bit as well. 503 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: Time now for our keys to Sunday Night football. How 504 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: on Monday morning are we talking about this football team 505 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: being two and one and getting ready for an a 506 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: f C North showdown on the Ravens. Scribble'll start with you. 507 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: I think defensively, you have to force multiple turnovers. This 508 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: is something you really haven't done much of to start 509 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: the season. You had the big force fumble at the 510 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 1: end of the Jets game and it was already decided, 511 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 1: but it was a heck of a play by Joe 512 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: Schobert to make that happen uh and keep the Jets 513 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: out of the end zone for good for that game. 514 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: But to flip this game, you need to You can't 515 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: just rely on your offense just beating the Rams down 516 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: the field. The defense needs to set up the offense 517 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: with some favorable field position, if not some a touchdown 518 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: on defense. So this is one of those games where 519 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: you need a couple interceptions, force fumbles, everything you can 520 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: get from that defense. I think on the offensive side 521 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: of the football, you know, I feel like I'm saying 522 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: this every week, and we've talked about this a lot, 523 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: but I do think you need to establish the ground game, 524 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: because there's really the best way to keep a rush 525 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 1: at bay is by establishing the ground game and making 526 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: them respect the run and the potential of a run. 527 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: So I think you need to involve Nick Chubb on 528 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: even more snaps than he's gotten in the first two weeks. 529 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 1: He needs to be out there on third down and 530 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: six or whatever it is with a threat to run, 531 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: but also the threat to catch the ball out of 532 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: the backfield. He worked on that a ton of the 533 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: off season for those exact reasons, and I think you 534 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: need to utilize him from start to finish, because otherwise, 535 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: you catch yourself trying to throw the ball down the 536 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: field all game. You're gonna end up behind the sticks. 537 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: It's gonna look a lot like Week one, and Baker 538 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 1: Mayfield's gonna receive, you know, some similar pressure and be 539 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: harassed a lot by a defensive front that is menacing, 540 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 1: It is tireless, and it will cause problems if you 541 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: allow it to you how to get Shove going early. 542 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: But I also think you gotta get some confidence and 543 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 1: get Baker Mayfield going early. I think that you know, 544 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 1: and Baker puts a lot on himself and it Baker 545 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: has looked good, but he's also struggled at times. It's 546 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 1: been inconsistent. And I think just getting him if you 547 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 1: get even if it's three or four yard passes like 548 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: we were talking about, plays under five yards, just something 549 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 1: so he gets his confidence going in his wide receivers 550 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: and his running backs, in his playmakers. I think that 551 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,959 Speaker 1: can only help against this l A Rams team. Now, 552 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 1: when you when you do say that though this it 553 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: sounds ideal, it sounds like something that they need to do. 554 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: But at the same time, the Rams are are no 555 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 1: fools and they might be anticipating something like that. So 556 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: you know, overall balance is going to be very key 557 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: because you don't want to become predictable at all. Yeah, 558 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: Teddy Bridge Roter couldn't do much anything against them. No, No, 559 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: And I don't know, I don't know. It was early, 560 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: but I don't know if Drew Brees is gonna do 561 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: much against them that week. They came out to play 562 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: on defense in that game and holding the Saints to 563 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: nine points. No matter who the quarterback is, it's no joke. 564 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 1: I think too Chubb, Dontrell Hilliard, who looks like he's 565 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: gonna be back, to Ernest Johnson, all of those guys 566 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 1: and all of your tight ends are gonna play pivotal 567 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: blocking roles at some point on Sunday Night. You're gonna 568 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 1: have to have him. We we've definitely seen Nick Chubb 569 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: had a great blitz pick up on that past Odell 570 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: Beckham on the sideline, the one handed catch earlier in 571 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 1: the game. I mean, if he doesn't pick up that 572 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: blitz that thrown never happens, then that play that never 573 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: happens because he stepped right in the hole, got his 574 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: nose in there and took on the rusher. But we've 575 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: also seen in the preseason when when the Browns played 576 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: the Colts, de Ernest Johnson also sacrifice his body to 577 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 1: to take on blitzers. And one time he threw his 578 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: body so hard and there violently that both the blitzer 579 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: and him just went flying backward. It was like unstoppable 580 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: forest meets and a movable object and it just exploded. 581 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: I mean this is these are the type of sacrifices 582 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 1: that these guys wanted to make in the past game. 583 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: So I think you've got two really good, reliable guys 584 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: back there. This is not a weakness for them, but 585 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 1: you also need to use them in the past game 586 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: as well. So again he comes with balance and picking 587 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: your spots. Is there an under Is there a person 588 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,360 Speaker 1: or a player that has to step up that we're 589 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: not talking about that that's not named Baker Mayfield or 590 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett? You know, maybe give me a guy that 591 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: is off the radar that needs to be on the 592 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: radar Sunday night. I'll go with t J carry slash 593 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: Eric Murray because I believe those will be the guys 594 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: most likely responsible for Cooper Cup. That's the guy that 595 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 1: can really hurt you on this rams wide receiving corps 596 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: because you're going to devote a lot of attention to 597 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: rout to woods and cooks, But that's the guy that 598 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: can hurt you in the middle of the field. And 599 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: they the Browns have not exactly faced h Randy Moss 600 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,719 Speaker 1: and Antonio Brown so far to start the season. This 601 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: is quite an elevation and talent that they will be 602 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: facing a wide receiver from the first two weeks, and 603 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: so this this Rams trio is arguably I think the 604 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 1: best in the NFL in terms of balance and talent. 605 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 1: Uh and Cup had that huge play against the Saints. 606 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: He's back, and when he is in their offense, they 607 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 1: are so much better because when they lost him last year, 608 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 1: they really missed him. Yeah, that's a fantastic point. They 609 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,479 Speaker 1: were almost two completely different offenses after they lost him, 610 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: especially in the passing game. They had to rely more 611 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 1: on the running game, which then got CJ. Anderson vault 612 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: in everything else. But Cups got that big size advantage too, 613 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: so you know you have to work look out for 614 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: that as well. But I'm gonna go on the Browns 615 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball if you do. If you 616 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: are not with Chris Hubbard at right tackling, you have 617 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: to go with Justin McCrae. It's on him because he's 618 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: gonna have to play better than expectation in order to 619 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: rightfully protect his quarterback and really give Baker Mayfield the 620 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: time to throw. You know, I like him in the 621 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: run game. There were even when he came in a 622 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: Week one, he made some nice blocks that opened some 623 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: lanes for Nick Chubb. It's just that they didn't. They 624 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: were too far too often behind the sticks to really 625 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: get that run game going. So it's it wasn't on 626 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: them and and but he needs to be better in 627 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: the past game and he needs to be starting caliber 628 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:49,719 Speaker 1: in order for them to have a chance to win 629 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: this game on the offensive side of the ball. 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