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Speaker 2: On this week's episode of Cultivating her Space.

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Speaker 2: All right, lady, Today, we have a special guest in

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Speaker 2: Blue is the creator and host of The Journey with Blue,

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Speaker 2: a talk show where she leads conscious conversations and coaches

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Speaker 2: so much more to her and there's so much more

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Speaker 2: so you can learn more about Michelle Blue. Welcome to

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Speaker 3: Yes, thank you for the intro, pay and doctor dom.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: You know that makes me happy that you said, you know,

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Speaker 3: I didn't even realize I said that, but that sounds

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Speaker 3: It is huge and is also crazy. That was my life.

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Speaker 2: That was beautiful.

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Speaker 3: what's that you know, magic ad that I need to

437
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 3: create to do this?

438
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 2: And you know, all of.

439
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 3: That's great, but that doesn't really matter, and we really

440
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 3: dive into who do you need to be? Who do

441
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 3: you get to step into each and every day? Right,

442
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 3: So like we're saying, who is you know, billion dollar Michelle?

443
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 3: Now I step into that representation, into that identity now,

444
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 3: not when a million and the billion dollars comes. And

445
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 3: so this is a lesson that we can all you

446
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 3: know you and take advantage of in our everyday live

447
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 3: We get to check like our ways of being am

448
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 3: I showing up as that girl. Am I showing up

449
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 3: as that dope, you know, business owner? Am I showing

450
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 3: up as the woman, the wife's, the parent, the mom

451
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 3: that I want to be? And so that's something that

452
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 3: across the board in your life, in your business you

453
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 3: can use and apply that.

454
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Speaker 2: I love that, and that reminds me of the manifestation

455
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 2: conversations that we've had lately, Michelle, just around stepping into

456
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 2: what's coming, like you kind of get ahead of where

457
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 2: you are now and step into that energy. Love that

458
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 2: and cannot wait for season three to come out so

459
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 2: we can tune in and we'd love to know who

460
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,919
Speaker 2: is your dream guests? Like if you could literally have

461
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 2: anyone dead or alive on your show, who would that

462
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 2: person be? Dream guests?

463
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 3: Let's see, y'all really are coming up. I do have

464
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 3: a roster that I already have claimed for season four.

465
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 3: When we talk about manifestations, it's already done. It's just

466
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,360
Speaker 3: waiting for the time to catch up to it. Right,

467
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,959
Speaker 3: So I strongly believe in that. You know, I do

468
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 3: have visions, you know, of interviewing Michelle Obama. I think

469
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 3: it's also a really powerful conversation around becoming you know.

470
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,959
Speaker 3: So there's so many conversations, so many inspiring women and

471
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 3: just leaders, thought leaders that I would love to sit

472
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 3: down with. Of course, through this work, everyone is always

473
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 3: comparing and like me to Oprah, I'm like, you know what,

474
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 3: keep speaking that into the atmosphere.

475
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 1: Right, Absolutely, we're claiming that for you.

476
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 3: Okay, yes, okay, I say in I mean so yeah.

477
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 3: So there's a number of women that I would love

478
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 3: to be able to sit down with. Elaine Walker Ross

479
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 3: is also someone that I'm you know, who's close and

480
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, Elaine, when you come into the house,

481
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 3: you know, you need to talk to my house and

482
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 3: let's talk about this. So yeah, I think she would

483
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 3: be great, especially coming off of her book More Than

484
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 3: Enough and just talking about the worthiness, right, because I

485
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 3: think we all shrink because we are in that internal

486
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 3: battle of like am I good enough? Am I pretty enough?

487
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 3: Am I smart enough?

488
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 2: Right?

489
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 3: But you alone are enough? Right? You don't need anything else.

490
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,479
Speaker 3: And I think that is a defining moment when we

491
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 3: get to that point, right. But it is a journey, right,

492
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 3: It takes a minute for us to get there.

493
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 2: That is so true, and it's so encouraging just seeing

494
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 2: other women that look like us having those conversations. So

495
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 2: we are so excited for this next season. So yes,

496
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 2: we will be following you on social media so that

497
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 2: we can learn were about when it drops. But at

498
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 2: this time, Shelle, we want to shift up the energy

499
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 2: of this interview. And because we recognize, appreciate, and celebrate

500
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 2: the multifaceted woman, and we believe that it's okay to

501
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 2: be classy and ratchet and you can still be elegant

502
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 2: and dance just stripped pub music. If you so choose,

503
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 2: we want to invite you to the oh you clatch

504
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 2: it segments? So do you take on the challenge.

505
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 3: I don't think I have a choice.

506
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 2: Believe it or not. We are big on boundaries. We've

507
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 2: had some guest set of boundaries and say no thank

508
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 2: you and we're like, okay, but you then, okay, thank

509
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 2: you girl. Now that you've agreed, we're going to tell

510
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 2: you what to expect now that now that we got

511
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 2: you in okay, so we're going to ask you for

512
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 2: right what, We're going to ask you three questions. We're

513
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 2: going to share three sentence completions, and then we're going

514
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 2: to close out by having you choose one of three

515
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 2: photos from your social media or from online, and you'll

516
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 2: provide more context that most people may not know about

517
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 2: this particular photo, so we won't get the juice from you.

518
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 2: Yeah right, Okay, are you ready? And all right, let's

519
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 2: do it, all right, pass it over to Dome.

520
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: All right, So our first question we'll you know, we'll

521
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: ease you into this. Okay, So first questions, what's the

522
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: best piece of wisdom or advice you've ever received?

523
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 3: You know, one thing that I went through a program

524
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 3: about this. But I also you know, I have spoken

525
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 3: with Brandis, like I said, who was on the show,

526
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 3: and one of the things we talked about is play

527
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 3: to win, right, So like in this game of life,

528
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 3: play to win right, go for go big. And also

529
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 3: one of my coaches, because I get so actually all

530
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 3: you know, as you're on these journeys and building these dreams,

531
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 3: we have so much pressure on what we're creating and

532
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 3: reaching these goals and the success. It's just like, you know,

533
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 3: really it's just an adventure, you know, So it kind

534
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 3: of goes hand in hand like play to win is

535
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 3: because it's just a game, right, Like it's just an adventure.

536
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 3: It's just fun, like you're not going to get on

537
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 3: the court to lose, right, and but you're also agatting

538
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 3: on the court to have fun. And so I think

539
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 3: those kind of go hand in hand. So play the

540
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 3: wind and like business whatever it is, it's just an adventure.

541
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 3: Have fun.

542
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,479
Speaker 2: Yes, I love it. We love to have fun. And

543
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 2: that takes us right into the next question. I just

544
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 2: have four words for you. Okay, Michelle, you're going to

545
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 2: work or two steps?

546
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 3: That is so funny because I was just singing the

547
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 3: other day. I was thinking of a caption and I

548
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 3: was like, I am such a drink and a two

549
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 3: step type of girl.

550
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 2: Drink. Yes, I love that, you know I don't.

551
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 3: But one day I've been in the gym, so we

552
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 3: may have some working in the near future.

553
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 2: We see girl, okay, we see the Michelle.

554
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: Coming room.

555
00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 3: All right.

556
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: So speaking of hitting the gym, that means you're getting ready, right,

557
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: physically getting ready. Now, what's the sexiest item you own?

558
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 3: Dude? I'm hin the gym because they say, you know,

559
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 3: you stay ready, you don't have to get ready.

560
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 2: There you go.

561
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 3: So I'm ready to pop out or whenever. Yes, you

562
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 3: know I need to come to California. I'm ready and

563
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 3: not just let me know the sexiest things that I own.

564
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 3: I think it's so important for me. I think sexy

565
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 3: like comes from like your shoulders and backlifs.

566
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 2: Like very subtle, you know, like.

567
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 3: Give them a little peak, give them a little bit.

568
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 3: And I love dresses, so I do have a lot

569
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 3: of dresses that like are strappy, maybe like a deep bee.

570
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 3: So that is my thing. I love, like a subtle,

571
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 3: sexy type of dress that just like clean the hit you.

572
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 2: Know, Okay, I see, I see, I love it. I

573
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 2: love it so far to fix the subtle section, Yes,

574
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 2: we're going to transition into the sentence completion. So one

575
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 2: question or topic I wish people ask me about more

576
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: often is.

577
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 3: So, you know, one thing I have to do better.

578
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 3: Am I allly supposed to say one word about this? Yeah? Okay,

579
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 3: I have to do better with sharing a little bit

580
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 3: more of my transparent story, right, So, like how I

581
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 3: briefly mentioned how like I took on all these random

582
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 3: jobs like working at sam bringing Pikashia bread and the

583
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 3: pizza ole, you know, like I was a girl given samples.

584
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 3: You know, most people don't know about that, and so

585
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 3: I think it's really important for me to start like

586
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 3: sharing that part of my journey so that people can

587
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 3: ask those questions, like when they're in those places and

588
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 3: those places where it doesn't seem like any hope, right,

589
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 3: you know, so that they know, like, okay, ask that

590
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 3: you know, come to Blue for some thatvivice on this

591
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 3: part of the journey that it's going to be okay,

592
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 3: you keep on. And so that's something that I think

593
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 3: I had to put out there more so that I

594
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 3: can receive more questions about it.

595
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 2: Notice we're gonna come back to that.

596
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, next statement, The most embarrassing thing I've

597
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: ever done to get a CRUSH's attention is now, this.

598
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 3: Actually may have come easy. So when I was what

599
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 3: was there in high school? I was maybe like ninth

600
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 3: grade and he may have been in twelfth grade, so ridiculous.

601
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 2: And so I had one of them two girls okay.

602
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 3: Yes, right, we were talking and he gave me his number.

603
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 3: So I'm already like okay, like I'm excited, and I'm

604
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 3: like calling him, like and I keep going to like

605
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 3: getting like this song come on, So I'm assuming that

606
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 3: it's going straight to voicemail. I'm like, why is this

607
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 3: bone off? Right? And I called back to back several times,

608
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 3: and of course at that time there were playback bring back.

609
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: Yes, I forgot about those.

610
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 3: Y me too. In that moment, I forgot that it

611
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 3: was a ring back and not his voicemail, and I

612
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 3: was like, dang. Like when he caught me back, I

613
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, I was at work. You were like

614
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:31,280
Speaker 3: blowing me up and I was like, you were getting girl.

615
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 2: You got all all you got. That's a good one

616
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 2: and came off the top from high school. That was good.

617
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't have many recent crazy stories because I

618
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 3: mean I had to learn really quickly.

619
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, girl, I'll show you well what you love

620
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 2: most about yourself.

621
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 3: I'm all for the adventure, you know, and that can

622
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 3: be anything. It can be going to a club. It

623
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 3: can be going somewhere I've never gone. It can be

624
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 3: jumping off a cliff. It can be starting a business

625
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 3: and having no clue, Like I'm really down, Like I

626
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 3: just love it. I love you know. It's just I know,

627
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 3: the race at hilaration. I don't know what it is,

628
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 3: but I'm just like why not, Like why why won't

629
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 3: we go? Why won't we jump? You know? So I'm

630
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 3: not always that friend that's like down for the ride

631
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 3: down for the Shenanigan.

632
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 2: Okay, fun, we love that fun.

633
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: Yes, you are definitely more of a risk taker than

634
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: we are. But so I do before we go to

635
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: our last piece, I do want to circle back to,

636
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 1: So what is the piece about your journey that you

637
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: want to share more about? You know, because you talked

638
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: about working at Sam's Club and it's slinging the Fikaca bred,

639
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: So what what is the piece of journey that you

640
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: wish more people knew about.

641
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, there's a story pretty early on.

642
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,720
Speaker 3: So when I was working at SAMAS, I was close

643
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 3: to after graduating as well, which is also something that

644
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 3: you have to humble yourself because again, I just graduated

645
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 3: from the University of Georgia with the business school, and

646
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 3: I'm the Fans Club, right, and there are people that

647
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 3: are seeing me that also know me, and so I'm like,

648
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 3: what happened on the shale? Like she fell off? You know,

649
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 3: I thought she was trying to build her business type

650
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,280
Speaker 3: of situation. But early on we got to a plank

651
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 3: where we had to do a heavy investment into the

652
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Speaker 3: business because we were transitioning from just like buying fabric

653
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Speaker 3: to actually customs designing our own fabric, and so I

654
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 3: didn't have the money to do this on my own,

655
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 3: and I was like, I really didn't want to, but

656
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Speaker 3: I had a no I didn't even speak this. I

657
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 3: happened to run into one of my mentors that start us.

658
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Speaker 3: She was meeting with the job recruiter, and I met

659
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Speaker 3: the job recruiter there maybe a couple of days later.

660
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Speaker 3: I don't even think I did a real formal interview.

661
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 3: She just hit me up and I was like, hey, like,

662
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Speaker 3: you know, you stood out when we met. There's a

663
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Speaker 3: job that I think may be interested in. So this

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Speaker 3: is during the time when I need a big amount

665
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Speaker 3: of money and she comes to me with the job

666
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Speaker 3: opportunity that I didn't apply for, right or Nora was

667
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Speaker 3: I really checking for? And so one morning I was

668
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 3: playing tennis with one of my mentors and I was

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Speaker 3: just like JP, like I really don't want to do this, Like,

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Speaker 3: you know, I'm an entrepreneur, Like this goes against what

671
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Speaker 3: I'm you know, what I'm about, what I stand for.

672
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Speaker 3: He was like, you know, Shelley, he was like take

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Speaker 3: the job. He was like, you know, d Nay is

674
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Speaker 3: your baby. And he was like as a mother, you

675
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Speaker 3: have to be the sacrifice and make sacrifices. You have

676
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Speaker 3: to see your child, and you do whatever it takes.

677
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Speaker 3: And so that was one of those moments that it

678
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Speaker 3: was cars I don't want to do it, you know,

679
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Speaker 3: and I did it for a couple months, but it

680
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 3: gave me the money to stay in the game with

681
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Speaker 3: what I ultimately wanted to create. And so yeah, most

682
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Speaker 3: people don't know that, and it was a hard decision,

683
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Speaker 3: but it was so worth it, you know, it was

684
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Speaker 3: so worth it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for sharing that too, because I know when

686
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Speaker 2: you first shared that in the interview about you know,

687
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Speaker 2: some of the odd jobs that you had, it made

688
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 2: me think about the odd jobs that I had in

689
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Speaker 2: my journey, and it made me just grateful to be

690
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Speaker 2: able to hear that, you know, someone who is successful

691
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Speaker 2: you may have to take a pivot or take a

692
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Speaker 2: little detour and do some of the you know, the

693
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 2: jobs that you may not want to do long term,

694
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Speaker 2: just to kind of get to where you need to

695
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Speaker 2: go in the journeys. I really do appreciate you being

696
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Speaker 2: open and sharing that with us and our listeners, and

697
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Speaker 2: we do want to move on and show you a

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Speaker 2: couple of photos but we want you to choose a

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Speaker 2: number from one to three. So the three photos are

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Speaker 2: cute up for you. So choose the number one to three,

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Speaker 2: and we're just going to pop one on sco for you, lady.

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Speaker 2: If you're listening to the video or if you're tuning

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Speaker 2: in on Patreon, you can see us and you can

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Speaker 2: see Michelle's photo. So all right, Michelle, Okay, I never realized.

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Speaker 3: Now we're going to have the pictures already. Two.

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Speaker 2: Two, Okay, this is a good one. I think they're

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Speaker 2: all good. But here is the photo.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, so that was pretty simple. I don't know

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Speaker 3: that's you probab should have something a little bit riskier, funner.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to some risky Michelle, we didn't see any

711
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Speaker 2: You do a good job with your social media.

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Speaker 3: Well, my new social media girl. She just went through

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Speaker 3: an archives. A lot of my stuff was like no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 3: This is from Steven t the Journey with Blue. And

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Speaker 3: you know this was interesting because at this time I

716
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Speaker 3: was still living in New York. I was already living

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Speaker 3: in New York, and I shot the first in Atlanta

718
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Speaker 3: right before I moved to New York. And then there

719
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Speaker 3: was a pretty significant gap between season one season two

720
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Speaker 3: because I was trying to figure it all out. I

721
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Speaker 3: was trying to find places in New York to shoot,

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Speaker 3: kind of you know, connect this with new people and

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Speaker 3: guests in New York. And then I actually did shoot

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Speaker 3: in New York and I didn't have any money, so

725
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Speaker 3: I hired this girl who was a student. That was

726
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Speaker 3: a bad idea, and so I looked at the footage

727
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 3: and it was terrible, and I was like, I cannot

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Speaker 3: put this out into the world, right but had already

729
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Speaker 3: invested some money, but I was like, I just you know,

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Speaker 3: it's gonna have to be a scratch. And I was like,

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna have to go to New York. I mean,

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Speaker 3: scusan go back home to Atlanta, and you know, go

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Speaker 3: with that, go with what I know, and still make

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Speaker 3: this happen. And so that's what I did. I was like,

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Speaker 3: you know, by all means necessary to show my still

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Speaker 3: one wow from season two of the show.

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Speaker 2: That's what change. That sounds stressful.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that is a lot happening, But I think

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Speaker 1: you know, it matches with who you are, right in

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Speaker 1: the sense that you say that life is an adventure,

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Speaker 1: and to me, that sounds like if I step back

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Speaker 1: and think about, well, let me take let me take

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Speaker 1: a positive perspective on this, that this is part of

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Speaker 1: your adventure, right, and even if it wasn't what you

745
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Speaker 1: wanted in the moment, it was, it's part of your adventure, right.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I also briefly touched on this on

747
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Speaker 3: the interviews that I do want to share this. So

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Speaker 3: that was season two, and then the beginning of this

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Speaker 3: year twenty twenty, I knew that I had to shoot

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Speaker 3: season three, and so I was, you know, excited about that.

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Speaker 3: I didn't quite know how I was going to you know,

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Speaker 3: work it out, but I knew like, okay, this is

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Speaker 3: the year I'm going to actually shoot it in New York.

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Speaker 3: And so shortly after we know what's happened, you know,

755
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Speaker 3: in the world shut down, a global pandemic, and so

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Speaker 3: now my dream and vision of shooting season three is

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Speaker 3: like shot right, And everyone is like, well, you know, Michelle,

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Speaker 3: like just shoot it bea zoom like you know, do

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Speaker 3: virtual conversations. And I was like, no, like that's not

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Speaker 3: I wasn't feeling that and that was not my vision.

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Speaker 3: And so, like I mentioned, I had just moved into

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Speaker 3: a beautiful brownstone in Brooklyn, and you know, with me

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Speaker 3: being in Atlanta temporarily, I had a place that I

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Speaker 3: wasn't living in, and so I was like, I have

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Speaker 3: to give this up because this is just a financial burden.

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Speaker 3: Everything's in my name of anything goes wrong me, because

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Speaker 3: I was like, I have to give it up as

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Speaker 3: much as I hate it, hate to have to do this.

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Speaker 3: And I was leaving December first. The last two weeks

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Speaker 3: of November, I shot the third season of The Journey

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Speaker 3: with Blue.

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Speaker 2: And Living Room Wow the last two weeks.

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Speaker 3: And so as I'm packing up everything that you know,

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Speaker 3: my life and preparing to move, being forced out of

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Speaker 3: basically forced out of my place, being forced out of

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Speaker 3: the city that I really wanted to be in, I

777
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Speaker 3: was like, I stortn't create what I want to create

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Speaker 3: out of this time and out of this moment. And

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Speaker 3: so it was emotional. It was really emotional, but I

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Speaker 3: did it. And so I was thankful that I was

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Speaker 3: able to call these dynamic women and say, you know,

782
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Speaker 3: come to my house, sit on my sofa with me

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Speaker 3: in the middle of a pandemic, and they still were able,

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Speaker 3: you know, still willing to do that, and I'm so

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Speaker 3: gracious that they took the time that they all came.

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Speaker 3: They didn't give me any pushback, they didn't give me

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Speaker 3: any questions, and we were able to make magic happens.

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Speaker 2: That is incredible, and I feel like there's a new

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Speaker 2: slogan of Michelle can do anything in two weeks. Be

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Speaker 2: with you in two weeks here, So I'm like, you

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Speaker 2: may never have to be another project. Michelle can do

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Speaker 2: anything in two weeks. Lady. We just appreciate your time,

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Speaker 2: right right, I prefer that you're right, lady. We appreciate

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Speaker 2: you so much. We just want to thank you for

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Speaker 2: your time, your energy, and your expertise. And we'd love

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Speaker 2: for you to tell our listeners where they can find

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Speaker 2: you and what to look forward to with your brand.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so I would love for the ladies tuning in

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Speaker 3: we found any love of inspiration lights from this conversation.

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Speaker 3: I would love for you to follow me at the

801
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:43,399
Speaker 3: Michelle Blue pap Michelle Blue on Instagram as well as

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Speaker 3: the Journey with Blue dot com. So we have season

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Speaker 3: three coming. It hits September thirty. September thirteenth, I'm doing

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Speaker 3: the launch party in New York and in Atlanta. Because

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Speaker 3: again why not?

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Speaker 1: Why not?

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00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 3: Why not?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: So, you know launch party watch Party in New York

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Speaker 3: and Atlanta coming up in September. And you know, I'm

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Speaker 3: also coaching women and you know, stepping into their dreams

812
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,439
Speaker 3: right taking the leak, because we all have something that's

813
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 3: on our hearts, but so many times we are so

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00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 3: second in our head. We're so second to our negative

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Speaker 3: and limiting beliefs of why this can't work or why

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Speaker 3: not you and not having the confidence or the plan

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Speaker 3: to actually make it a happen and bring it to reality.

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Speaker 3: And so I will also be releasing my coaching program

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Speaker 3: Taking the Leaks with Blue this fall as well.

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Speaker 1: So yes, that is so so exciting. So we have

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Speaker 1: an amazing audience of black women across the globe, and

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Speaker 1: you know, you get the vibe from just engaging with

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Speaker 1: Terry and I so far and the mission of our work.

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Speaker 1: And so, who do you think we should interview? And

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Speaker 1: would you be open to making an introduction?

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Speaker 2: I think who should you interview next?

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Speaker 3: Hmmm, y'all want to really put me on the spot tuesdays.

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Speaker 2: Let's see, this.

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Speaker 3: Is definitely an adventure. There's so many people. Another great

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Speaker 3: conversation that I had was with a lady. Her name

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Speaker 3: is Carl Stevens and she is frugal also known as

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Speaker 3: the Frugal Simnissa. But we had an amazing conversation around

833
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Speaker 3: dealing your relationship with money in order to attract our

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Speaker 3: money and abundance in your life. And so she's great.

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Speaker 3: She also writes a column on in essence as well,

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Speaker 3: Tippany Bugenesa the Buganessa did afford to her book, car

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Speaker 3: would be great and then I'll give you.

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Speaker 2: Too, Okay.

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Speaker 3: The next another guess on my show. Her name was

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Speaker 3: Sete is Ck Sharkana and she is a writer at

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Speaker 3: the New York Times. She's a love journalist at the

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00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 3: New York Times. And one thing that regardless of like

843
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Speaker 3: wherever I am in the world or whatever this you know, anyways,

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Speaker 3: all women are always like having questions around relationships, how

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Speaker 3: to navigate relationships, And so she is a love expert

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00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 3: who gave some really clear and tangible advice on again

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00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 3: attracting the love into your life. Who do you need

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00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 3: to be to attract love and relationships into your life?

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Speaker 3: And so I think that's something that's really key again

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Speaker 3: because it's not just about the business it's not just

851
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 3: about the money. I'm like the my money, go home

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00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 3: me at night. So like, okay, let's work all of

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00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 3: this stuff together. It all works together. And so she

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00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 3: also would be a great guest. So there are two

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Speaker 3: amazing dope women that I think will be perfect for

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Speaker 3: the show.

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Speaker 2: Awesome. Thank you so much, Michelle. We think that our

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Speaker 2: listeners would definitely benefit from that. Lady. Make sure you

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Speaker 2: go check out Michelle, show her some love on social media,

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Speaker 2: go like her pictures and roll on her coaching program,

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Speaker 2: all that good stuff, and we will see you next time.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Michelle.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Terry Dot, thank you Dr Dom. I appreciate it, lady.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: Hey lady, It's Terry here from the Cultivating her Space podcast.

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Speaker 4: I'm hosting a free podcasting masterclass where I'm going to

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