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Speaker 1: the Star in Friscott. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought us,
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones. It's already Thursday, and it's
Speaker 1: already time for another NFL weekend. We got Thursday Night
Speaker 1: football tonight, and I just love the NFL. And welcome
Speaker 1: to Talking Cowboys. And Mickey is smiling this morning because
Speaker 1: he got his get out of jail card this morning. Right, Mickey,
Speaker 1: it's like getting your ankle monitor off of you. You know,
Speaker 1: really that's severe. Well, have you ever had an ankle monitor?
Speaker 1: I'm saying I was kind of, But it feels like
Speaker 1: it's dragging this thing around for two weeks. You want
Speaker 1: to explain it off the top since I would ahead
Speaker 1: and brought it up off the top of the podiatrist
Speaker 1: told me that my foot looks just fine and I
Speaker 1: can start wearing a normal shoe. All right, So does
Speaker 1: that mean I can't use the elevator anymore? No? So
Speaker 1: do you I've got No, I've still got it because
Speaker 1: I didn't bring it with me. I didn't know that
Speaker 1: was going to happen. So you got some surprising good
Speaker 1: news this morning on this trip to the podiatry. When
Speaker 1: I walked out, I felt like jumping up in the
Speaker 1: air and clicking my heels, you know, But then you
Speaker 1: would have been right back in. I would have had
Speaker 1: a bigger boot. Yeah. How about casual Bill? Huh? Oh,
Speaker 1: this is it. We Bill, all dressed up and everything.
Speaker 1: We don't see the three piece suit when you got
Speaker 1: TV here and you apologize, I wasn't able to be
Speaker 1: here yesterday. We're doing TV, and I would I was
Speaker 1: all dressed up yesterday. Now I figured out on my
Speaker 1: schedule this fall that if I'm going to get any
Speaker 1: sleep at all, I've got to um and I'm I
Speaker 1: apologize to y'all because I'm not taking a shower before
Speaker 1: I come into the talking. We've learned about his hotel room.
Speaker 1: We've learned about the shower habits. Sorry, Derek hat sitting
Speaker 1: the start. So I figured out that I wake up
Speaker 1: and I go do talking Cowboys, then I go home
Speaker 1: and take a shower for the rest of the day.
Speaker 1: And yesterday, what a what a real bulldog because he
Speaker 1: went back and forth to home three times times. Yes,
Speaker 1: and then came back and came back for the Cowboys
Speaker 1: Legend Show, which was quite and lightning, wasn't it. And
Speaker 1: by the way, not only did I do that, but
Speaker 1: I also fixed my lawn. That's right the front yard
Speaker 1: mode in between the Jason Garrett Show and the Cowboys
Speaker 1: Legend Show. The Renaissance Man right here and right now.
Speaker 1: He's got pictures too that he had parts all over
Speaker 1: the place, Jamny parks left over. That's always you build
Speaker 1: a swing set, you got like three or four of
Speaker 1: those wingnut things left over. You're like coin, that's not safe. First,
Speaker 1: I understand that's not good. Thanks. I am not Wade Phillips.
Speaker 1: I am not mister fixing. And this is proof positive.
Speaker 1: I'm not mister fix it. You can showing the camera
Speaker 1: right there in the camera about the camera right from you,
Speaker 1: Bill there you go, right there, Yeah, showing up. That's
Speaker 1: me there you go, Okay, that's me fixing my lawn
Speaker 1: Moore yesterday. Why do I have a picture of this?
Speaker 1: You ask because my daughter showed up at the house
Speaker 1: and she was so shocked that I was I had
Speaker 1: tools out it was fixing the lawn more that she
Speaker 1: took a picture of it. She sends a group text. Uh,
Speaker 1: my son in laws Cody and Sean, Okay, she says.
Speaker 1: She sends a group text to her sisters, saying, Cody
Speaker 1: and Sean are rubbing off on Dad something I've never
Speaker 1: seen before, him using tools and it Actually I actually
Speaker 1: fixed the lawn Moore yesterday. I'm embarrassed as I didn't
Speaker 1: move a launtil I was thirty. Wow, What why when
Speaker 1: I was living in Green Bay? He didn't mow it
Speaker 1: at home? You didn't it growing up? Now we had
Speaker 1: law and Dad just did not trust me. Well I
Speaker 1: did not trust well, yeah, because you went and went
Speaker 1: crooked probably and miss spots. Probably. I had to feel
Speaker 1: that looked like you know those baseball fields where they
Speaker 1: have him mowed, like you had the checkerboard patterns. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a little bit probably what I would have done.
Speaker 1: But no, it did not more yard till I was thirty.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll get into cowboys here in a second.
Speaker 1: But one more question to pose. Okay, I see I
Speaker 1: was the type and then the reason that I can't
Speaker 1: fix anything, Oh, I'm the same way is because my
Speaker 1: dad I mean he was He could fix anything around
Speaker 1: the house, and he always tried to train me. He
Speaker 1: wanted me to hold the wrench, just whatever, and I
Speaker 1: was so disinterested in that. I wanted to go play
Speaker 1: football in the front yard or go arch a game
Speaker 1: or whatever. Sure, what were you all? Like? I learned
Speaker 1: from my dad. You go across the street and ask
Speaker 1: the neighbor to come over and fix it. Pretty good? Yeah,
Speaker 1: same way my dad. He likes to do that stuff.
Speaker 1: So he'll try to teach me, but he's like, here,
Speaker 1: just let me, let me do this right, right. And
Speaker 1: so yeah, to this day, I don't know how to
Speaker 1: do my any I should know how to change the
Speaker 1: oil in a car. I should know all that stuff
Speaker 1: because he had me out there. I was supposed to
Speaker 1: be watching, and I was. My mind was elsewhere. But
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what aide. You are the miracle of YouTube. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a real thing. Yes, that's how I did this yesterday,
Speaker 1: YouTube new homeowner. Last couple of years, that thing has
Speaker 1: been a godsend for me, at least to try to
Speaker 1: do it. And if I can't do it, then I'll
Speaker 1: call some my fix it. My mister, fix it is
Speaker 1: my pilot friend who you know pilots, Well, they've got
Speaker 1: a spare time in the world, so they know how
Speaker 1: to fix anything, right, And so I called him to
Speaker 1: come fix my lawn more well, he decided that I
Speaker 1: needed to learn how to fix my own lawn more so,
Speaker 1: what he'd do he sent me a YouTube video instead.
Speaker 1: There you go, There you go. So, speaking of cutting grass,
Speaker 1: I bet I'd done something that none of you guys
Speaker 1: have ever done, been right, cut cut my grass without
Speaker 1: a mower that had a motor. Oh well, one of
Speaker 1: those push things. Oh gosh, those are back man. Yeah
Speaker 1: they bad. Yeah, they're totally because they don't use gasolines.
Speaker 1: They're clean, they're plan Yeah, you got a push and
Speaker 1: then pull. Didn't do this. We're growing up at Honka.
Speaker 1: That's an Yeah, that didn't happen. I'm sorry that ain't happen. Okay,
Speaker 1: see the experiences you guys have missed that. I'm all
Speaker 1: good with that. All right, So what did I missed yesterday?
Speaker 1: I understand Brian played a game of Had Your Own
Speaker 1: Game Show? Yeah, I know. I appreciate Mickey and rob
Speaker 1: answering the questions. We kind of dope into some things.
Speaker 1: I think that this will be an interesting matchup for
Speaker 1: these Cowboys this week. If you look at you know, Seattle.
Speaker 1: I just worry about an O and two team with
Speaker 1: backs against the wall kind of thing. I think that's
Speaker 1: something that you know, you're you're gonna hear me say
Speaker 1: us a lot this week and then probably in the
Speaker 1: post game or the pregame show. Excuse me? Is I
Speaker 1: never liked a team that has been told that they're
Speaker 1: not very good. They're hearing how bad they are. They've
Speaker 1: got talented player and they're fighting their way out. They're
Speaker 1: gonna try and fight their way out, and you know,
Speaker 1: nothing better than they get a win against the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: You know, I just feel like you're gonna get Seattle's
Speaker 1: best shot and can you withstand their crowd? Can you
Speaker 1: withstand their best shot? If you can do that, you
Speaker 1: get a shot to win. But this team also is
Speaker 1: very capable of making you look bad. Even with the
Speaker 1: players and the problems that they have, they present problems
Speaker 1: for you, and I worry about that from a standpoint
Speaker 1: of them B and O two and they've been competitive
Speaker 1: in their first two games too, they lost them. They
Speaker 1: did have some problems. Their offensive line has been poor,
Speaker 1: but they're also a proud franchise. I mean, this is
Speaker 1: a franchise that expects to go to the Playoffer Bowl
Speaker 1: here every year. And I think we talked about it
Speaker 1: last year Christmas Eve. They were struggling coming into that game,
Speaker 1: and the talk was what the Cowboys got Zeke back?
Speaker 1: They're gonna be fine, but they're playing for the playoffs.
Speaker 1: They're they're saying they're trying to stay in the playoff hunt,
Speaker 1: and they came out and made enough plays to win.
Speaker 1: The crowd noise is going to be a factor for me.
Speaker 1: I want to see how this offensive line of communication,
Speaker 1: how they handle things up front, because it didn't go
Speaker 1: well in Carolina. Yeah, and plush. As Bill learned last night,
Speaker 1: the Seahawks are playing at home and they're awfully good
Speaker 1: in their home openers, aren't they? Bill? Remember, and I
Speaker 1: pointed that out last night. Nine nine consecutive one nine
Speaker 1: consecutive home openers in fourteen fifteen. Wow, Yeah about that
Speaker 1: home opener and that is as loud as stay. And
Speaker 1: how about this for an outdoor stadium. It's intense. Kansas
Speaker 1: City's intense to and those fifteen last fifteen openers they've
Speaker 1: outscored their opponents three hundred and sixty seven to one
Speaker 1: thirty eight, and they're very proud to put that right
Speaker 1: on the first page of their least they should. Now,
Speaker 1: Brian's talked about this. This is a different team. They've
Speaker 1: changed over a lot of personnel, so every year is different. Um.
Speaker 1: But they still got a quarterback you gotta contend with.
Speaker 1: They still got a safety you gotta contend with. Linebackers.
Speaker 1: They've got some pass rushers. Huh who's that? Uh? Et Okay,
Speaker 1: that guy? That guy? And it looks like the linebacker
Speaker 1: is back, Yeah, Bobby Wagner, but I don't think it
Speaker 1: doesn't look like kJ Wright's gonna make it now he's not.
Speaker 1: And they've got some beat up offensive linemen that aren't
Speaker 1: very good to start with or haven't been very protective.
Speaker 1: Let me put it that way. Justin Britt, the center,
Speaker 1: Britt didn't practice a sore shoulder. Their guard Poissick, that's
Speaker 1: the guy from LSU post I said he's having problems
Speaker 1: with an ankle, and DJ Flucker they were hopeful that
Speaker 1: he would be back from a hamstring. So they've already
Speaker 1: given Yeah, they've already given up twelve sacks. Squeeze has
Speaker 1: been starting for Flucker there at that spot. And you're right, guys,
Speaker 1: but can the Cowboys make this team one dimensional? Can they?
Speaker 1: Can they score enough points? Can they put enough pressure?
Speaker 1: Can they keep Seattle from having just to play balance
Speaker 1: in their offense? That's if Dallas comes out and finds
Speaker 1: a way to build an early lead, the pressure now
Speaker 1: is going to come onto their court onto Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's capable of carrying a team. We've seen that
Speaker 1: before with him, but with it's a little bit different.
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is able to get back in games because
Speaker 1: their defense for so many years has been so good
Speaker 1: at getting them stops. But if you can build a lead,
Speaker 1: that's what exactly the Bears did. Ye. I don't think
Speaker 1: the Bears are necessarily a better team than what Seattle was,
Speaker 1: but they got a lead, they got up on them,
Speaker 1: and they forced They forced the Seattle's hand, and they
Speaker 1: put a lot of pressure on Russell Wilson. They got
Speaker 1: a couple of turnovers in the game, they got to
Speaker 1: pick six. I mean, these are all things you have
Speaker 1: to have to go win a game at Seattle. I
Speaker 1: just I do worry about that the Cowboys not scoring
Speaker 1: enough points. That's the thing. They just need to build
Speaker 1: a lead and then let their defense sick that defense.
Speaker 1: Let Chris Rochard and those guys go after Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: to make his life miserable if they can. Jee, I
Speaker 1: look at Seattle a lot like Carolina from offensive standpoint,
Speaker 1: because I didn't think Carolina had the weapons at on
Speaker 1: offense outside of McCaffrey to score a lot of points,
Speaker 1: which makes it all the more important to get ahead
Speaker 1: in the game. Yes, you know, now Carolina's defense is
Speaker 1: stronger because of the turnover that the Seahawks have had
Speaker 1: their strengthen their front seven. But I think that's the
Speaker 1: type and that's what you saw in this in the
Speaker 1: game against Chicago, right. It's interesting on Chicago. I think
Speaker 1: Chicago's defense is pretty good, and especially with the addition
Speaker 1: of Mac and um. But they kind of they gave
Speaker 1: you to me, they gave you a blueprint of how
Speaker 1: you tack Seattle. If you build a lead, then you
Speaker 1: turn around and you just I think what kept Seattle
Speaker 1: in that game, and they were sort of in the game,
Speaker 1: they sort of late touchdown tack at a seven point game,
Speaker 1: was the fact that the young quarterback for Chicago called yeah,
Speaker 1: two interceptions, Yeah yeah, Shaquille Griffin, right, And and that's
Speaker 1: why Dak Prescott, you look at him, he's eighteen and
Speaker 1: one in his NFL career. When he doesn't turn the
Speaker 1: ball over, it's huge. The one thing you have to
Speaker 1: be if you're a Cowboy fan and you look forward
Speaker 1: to Dak Prescott has won in some hostile environments. You
Speaker 1: look at him. He has won it in art in Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: he was one in Green Bay. You know, when they
Speaker 1: do protect the football, they do run the ball. He's
Speaker 1: able to make some plays. He's capable of finishing in
Speaker 1: games in those pretty hostile environments. And he'll be the
Speaker 1: first to tell you, even though he's three years removed,
Speaker 1: he's been in some difficult places. He's played in Athens,
Speaker 1: He's played in Baton Rouge. He's played at Auburn, He's
Speaker 1: played at Alabama. I mean, he's played in arenas that
Speaker 1: are difficult on quarterbacks to have to be able to
Speaker 1: hold themselves together. But going into his third season, you know,
Speaker 1: I just I just hope that they don't have a
Speaker 1: lull in the game. If they come out and they're aggressive,
Speaker 1: and they make some things happen early, and they put
Speaker 1: some pressure on Seattle. They don't need to have the
Speaker 1: two holding penalties back to back. They need they don't
Speaker 1: need negative plays running the football. They don't need a
Speaker 1: sack fumble. Uh you know one of those things from
Speaker 1: Frank Clark. Somehow he gets inside of of Lyle Collins
Speaker 1: and next you know he's on the quarterback and the
Speaker 1: balls on the ground and they got short field. Those
Speaker 1: are all things that they can't have happened. While this
Speaker 1: team offense continues to grow, they need some they need
Speaker 1: some positive things to happen in this football game. Third
Speaker 1: and thirteen, you're fighting the crowd to come in. Twelfth
Speaker 1: Man started by Texas A and M University. They created that,
Speaker 1: by the way, thank you very much. That environment too,
Speaker 1: as Yeah, Dak has played in that environment. Yes, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: This twelve Man is nothing compared to that twelfth Man
Speaker 1: in Aggie Land, right, not even close. I think that's
Speaker 1: what we learned last night from Dad. Right, dat Win
Speaker 1: was on our show last So you'll have to listen
Speaker 1: to the last segment of the show. All you Aggies
Speaker 1: out there, just fast forward to the last segment aggies
Speaker 1: are sore tongue, and the twelves now because they're not
Speaker 1: allowed to use twelfth Man, so it's just twelve Is
Speaker 1: that right? Well you won that battle, Rob Phillips, was
Speaker 1: not a lawsuit or something in Seattle built that deck
Speaker 1: over on the back side of your stadium for he
Speaker 1: used to say, website. He used to say, the twelfth
Speaker 1: man is a trademark of Texas A and M University.
Speaker 1: That's right. The situation lawyers, Yeah, what is your biggest
Speaker 1: concern in this game though? What is your one thing
Speaker 1: if you could point to something you're saying, Brian, I
Speaker 1: need this really to be different. I don't need I
Speaker 1: need this not to be a concern for me today, right, No,
Speaker 1: it needs to be the same. No turnovers. You cannot
Speaker 1: give them cheap touchdowns because that offense is struggling, and
Speaker 1: don't give them something. Let's first hand them something. You
Speaker 1: used a protection guy, which always makes sense. I'm more
Speaker 1: of the no minus plays like you were saying, no penalties. No,
Speaker 1: I don't want second, long, third, and long. You're gonna
Speaker 1: have a couple of those. But you can't have what
Speaker 1: you had in Carolina because that crowd is gonna go
Speaker 1: crazy and all of a sudden, you're fighting that they
Speaker 1: need Zeke to run early and get involved early and
Speaker 1: kind of take the crowd out of it. I think
Speaker 1: they've got to get Zeke going early and and create
Speaker 1: those down and business for Dak to kind of settle in.
Speaker 1: Is it getting personnel and do that, or you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to spread them out and do How are you
Speaker 1: gonna how are you gonna get to that? Well, we've
Speaker 1: seen them have more success when they spread them out
Speaker 1: right right, and when they go to twelve they'll go
Speaker 1: to it. But they did it kind of after they
Speaker 1: got some some rhythm going offensively against the Giants. I
Speaker 1: I'm for spreading them out, honestly about you, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that's what you're gonna have to do. Now may
Speaker 1: you got to make protecting them? Mickey's pointed out to
Speaker 1: me the last couple of times though the last two
Speaker 1: games that the middle linebackers have made plays. Bobby Wagner
Speaker 1: is capable of making every tackle, much like we've seen
Speaker 1: Ogle Tree and and and and uh keekly make play.
Speaker 1: I do worry about are you Are you just gonna
Speaker 1: be banking even if you spread your spread them out.
Speaker 1: Are you gonna be able to block the front, right,
Speaker 1: that's my concern. Are you're gonna be able to block
Speaker 1: the front, and and that's where you know, we look
Speaker 1: at what's happen at center. I think the center has
Speaker 1: been okay. The guard, you know, we'll see about second
Speaker 1: level blocks there. He played a lot better in the
Speaker 1: game the other day. But you know they're gonna need
Speaker 1: to get up on the get these guys secured on
Speaker 1: the downside, and then all when they get to the
Speaker 1: second level, make sure that Bobby Wagner is not running
Speaker 1: there making every tackle for three yards. You need Zeke
Speaker 1: to get in those seven eight yard shots. I know
Speaker 1: it's asking a lot, but they're capable of doing that.
Speaker 1: They're capable of playing that way. Yes, they're very capable
Speaker 1: of playing that way. And then that sets up Dak
Speaker 1: for the play action stuff, the boots, the waggles, the
Speaker 1: things that they want to get into that are good
Speaker 1: simple throws for him. If you watched the game against Chicago,
Speaker 1: that's what they were doing. They were getting six seven
Speaker 1: yards of pop kind of second half running play action
Speaker 1: which I had a run for about twelve fifteen yards
Speaker 1: on one play on third down. I mean, that's what
Speaker 1: you gotta do. They even used a little read option,
Speaker 1: I think with Trubisky a couple of us, So yeah,
Speaker 1: get him on the move. I'm with that. My biggest
Speaker 1: concern is falling behind early and then it's snowballing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's like, like what happened? And uh well, I just
Speaker 1: looked it up two thousand and twelve, six years ago
Speaker 1: where it was that the Sea second game, game of
Speaker 1: the year ago crushed by Golden Tate. Golden Tate hit him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and but I'm pretty sure that was what happened in
Speaker 1: that game, right, But what happened at the start of
Speaker 1: that game while Seattle came down and kicked the field goal,
Speaker 1: they're up three nothing, and then Cowboys it was a
Speaker 1: three and out block punt and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: with ten twenty three to go in the first quarter,
Speaker 1: you're already down ten nothing. Right now, that was a
Speaker 1: good Seattle team. And I looked at that. That was
Speaker 1: before Seattle's Super Bowl runs. It was two thousand and twelve.
Speaker 1: They wound up going eleven and five days. What was
Speaker 1: the one that Dallas kit behind in the game, though
Speaker 1: they won the toe tap game from Williams. They got
Speaker 1: behind in that game, too behind, and then they made
Speaker 1: a frantic comeback at the last romo throwing around. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm making some play last couple of minutes. Ran the
Speaker 1: ball with DeMarco Murray too in that game, kind of
Speaker 1: finished to drive out. I remember the thing opened up
Speaker 1: on a counter that that was good. Really, I don't
Speaker 1: and judge things wrong and go down too early. And
Speaker 1: I went down too early in that game. I was
Speaker 1: standing back of the end zone when the toe tap happened. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I usually can judge, and I said, nah, this is over,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, boom boom they scored
Speaker 1: and ended up winning the game. That was a game
Speaker 1: everybody said, Okay, they're for real, because I don't think
Speaker 1: anybody gave them a shot up there that game. Besides,
Speaker 1: was that the big game from Julius Jones. You're talking Williams. No, No,
Speaker 1: I know Murray Murray. Murray ran the ball he did
Speaker 1: in the one game that they won. But that was
Speaker 1: Mickey's right. This was that was twenty fourteen. It was
Speaker 1: a thirty to twenty three cowboy win. I think Julius
Speaker 1: Jones had like one hundred and ninety eight yards and
Speaker 1: oh four and he was fresh coming off a collar bone.
Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, now we're going way back here. But look,
Speaker 1: it's not easy to go up there and win a game.
Speaker 1: And to Mickey's point, on the two thousand and fourteen game,
Speaker 1: just like the two thousand and twelve game, the Cowboys
Speaker 1: fell behind ten nothing early in the game, first half
Speaker 1: of the first quarter, and it was a blocked punt
Speaker 1: return Mike Morgan for Seattle that gave him a ten
Speaker 1: nothing lead, which I had forgotten now that I now
Speaker 1: I remember it. I'd forgotten it before. And then the case.
Speaker 1: So the Cowboys were down ten nothing with seven thirteen
Speaker 1: left in the first So that's how far the Cowboys
Speaker 1: came from twenty twelve to twenty fourteen. They were able
Speaker 1: to go to Seattle and overcome attend nothing half time,
Speaker 1: our first quarter deficit. So your honor, I rest my case.
Speaker 1: You do not turn the ball over. Don't give them
Speaker 1: anything cheap. Besides the defense, what are you what are
Speaker 1: you happy about here? Besides the defense? Going into this game?
Speaker 1: What are you happy? What can you hang your hat
Speaker 1: on in this game? Other than your defense? You know,
Speaker 1: I I think it's promising what they were able to
Speaker 1: do on that fourth quarter drive against eight minute drive. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the eight minute drive fourth quarter or I think, well,
Speaker 1: maybe their balance a little better, right, yeah, right, maybe,
Speaker 1: and that was what was their calling card in their
Speaker 1: blueprint for success finished the game. Yeah, yeah, and and
Speaker 1: I think they might be able to Um, you know,
Speaker 1: that gave him some confidence that they can do that's
Speaker 1: the first time we've seen them be able to share
Speaker 1: drive like that together. Now can they do it again?
Speaker 1: So do you think Seattle's defense is better than the Giants? Well,
Speaker 1: with Bobby Wagner in there, it improves them if he's healthy.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I think they're better at linebacker, Mickey,
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, I look at the defensive line.
Speaker 1: I've just kind of I'm kind of stuck in my
Speaker 1: mind with Frank Clark. Jerryan Reid is I think is
Speaker 1: a pretty Yeah, he's a pretty good player, but I
Speaker 1: don't think he's lived up to what the high Pie's been,
Speaker 1: you know. Um. Quinn Jefferson kind of jumped out to
Speaker 1: me a little bit in the last game, Quinn Jefferson
Speaker 1: a little bit. You know, Mingo is Mingo's bounced around.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's capable of getting blocked and washed out
Speaker 1: of the play and all that. I just I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think that maybe the thing that bothers me, and
Speaker 1: I'm trying to look for a positive and I like
Speaker 1: what you said, Bill, but I think these are we
Speaker 1: seeing something from these wide receivers though? Enough of Can
Speaker 1: you feel cape like you feel good enough about them
Speaker 1: getting open and making plays? Yeah? I feel good about
Speaker 1: I know they've seen it. I know there's twenty six
Speaker 1: of them out there on the roster right now. Say,
Speaker 1: and that's the problem because the success they have had
Speaker 1: has been spread out that it hasn't been the same
Speaker 1: one or two guys, right, So, but do you feel
Speaker 1: like that? Okay? I think eventually they're gonna find four guys,
Speaker 1: and when they start bringing guys back like David Irvin,
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to start cutting guys. That was our
Speaker 1: mail back question. Yeah. I get ready for that. Well,
Speaker 1: they eventually. But I think if you, if you want
Speaker 1: to say something you feel good about, you have to
Speaker 1: say the wide receivers, don't you. Isn't that something you
Speaker 1: feel good about other than defensive pass rush? Well, you
Speaker 1: said in the first game you saw wide receivers open. Yeah, Now,
Speaker 1: didn't always hit them, didn't always keep your quarterback up right,
Speaker 1: be able to hit them right. So I think we
Speaker 1: saw a little bit more of it in the game
Speaker 1: against the Giants. Better protection for sure, exactly. So can
Speaker 1: they do that? You know? Can they protect? Can they
Speaker 1: keep him off his back? I'm asking what do you
Speaker 1: feel good about? So I feel good about it, you
Speaker 1: feel good about protected better? I feel good about the
Speaker 1: wide receivers now, can they protect and can make consistent throws?
Speaker 1: And you did a better job of it in this
Speaker 1: last game. I feel I feel good about Cole Beasley
Speaker 1: winning his one on one battles. Deance Thompson is showing
Speaker 1: you some things. Sure, a huge difference for Dac that
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Speaker 1: I'm post this and we'll go ahead and share it
Speaker 1: with the audience. Uh, the Sean McVay viral video that's
Speaker 1: out there, or where he can remember specific plays and
Speaker 1: situations from years ago, it's pretty impressive. Was that real
Speaker 1: Sports that he was doing? The thinktool barstool? Yeah that
Speaker 1: was barstool. Yeah, it's amazing. It is amazing. But I
Speaker 1: think that you could probably find a lot of offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator types who could probably do the same. Um, Dad
Speaker 1: can do it. I don't know if he can do
Speaker 1: every play. I haven't asked him that, but we were
Speaker 1: outside over here outside the studio of Media Days, and
Speaker 1: we did the tail of the tape one play, and
Speaker 1: I think we kind of quizzed him on a couple others,
Speaker 1: and he was just especially in a close game where
Speaker 1: it's like a final drive and you can remember it's
Speaker 1: like a for you remember specific shots throughout them. So
Speaker 1: why don't you tell the story about last night that
Speaker 1: tried sixty six or the seventy to nothing game that
Speaker 1: he was he part of that one. He was not
Speaker 1: a part of seventy seven to nothing in two thousand
Speaker 1: and three. I can tell you these specifics. When he left,
Speaker 1: it went all, yeah, it was Bill Parcel's first game
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys and at the Giants. Yes, and that
Speaker 1: Winn was telling the story and he was telling it
Speaker 1: in the break and we brought it to the show.
Speaker 1: Um he was, he's saying it, he said, talked to
Speaker 1: Whitton and Romo. He said. Romo wasn't part of it
Speaker 1: because he wasn't playing yet. But he said, talked to
Speaker 1: Witton about and he had a specific play and I'm
Speaker 1: he remembered the call and how they practiced it in preseason. Uh,
Speaker 1: it was they were talking about situation football, right, And
Speaker 1: this was at the end of the game. If you
Speaker 1: remember that there was at Bryant, right, there was eleven
Speaker 1: seconds left. The kickoff hit the post pile of high line,
Speaker 1: so they got to move the ball off and they
Speaker 1: needed twenty five yards. And that they practiced this play
Speaker 1: like four times in preseason because Bill goes, you never
Speaker 1: know when the situation's gonna come up. You may never
Speaker 1: need this play in your life, but if it comes up,
Speaker 1: here's the play. And so they had practiced it, and
Speaker 1: you know the situation football, which Parcels did every training
Speaker 1: camp practice. There was something and a lot of coaches
Speaker 1: do that. And so Dat said, when you get a chance,
Speaker 1: talk to Witton, ask him about sixty two max cafe XQ. Okay,
Speaker 1: And so I just decided I'll just text Witton. So
Speaker 1: I texted Witton and I said, I'm interviewing Dat Win
Speaker 1: on the radio telling parcels stories. Dat says, ask you
Speaker 1: about sixty two max cafe XQ. It wasn't. Two seconds
Speaker 1: later I get this response from Witton. Bill and I
Speaker 1: got our first game in two thousand and three at Giants.
Speaker 1: This was the play exclamation point and Tony O'Bryant forty
Speaker 1: yards downfield gets out of bounds for the Billy Kunduff
Speaker 1: game winning field goal. Exclamation point, exclamation point. That was
Speaker 1: a boom exclamation point, exclamation point, situational football at its best,
Speaker 1: exclamation point exclamation point, got our first win, exclamation point, exclamation.
Speaker 1: I think he's intense a little bit. Dad who's playing
Speaker 1: defense right, so he's not running the play. He explained
Speaker 1: what everybody did on the play to get Bryant open
Speaker 1: on the sideline. Can't does this all sound familiar right now? Days?
Speaker 1: Because there was another half to that. It was the
Speaker 1: special It was a kickoff before that where that was
Speaker 1: another situational Smith zero Smith, let it roll out of bounds.
Speaker 1: Bill was banging that into their head over and over again,
Speaker 1: and then they dropped that play after that. That's a
Speaker 1: second half of that situational thing. Wow, that was That
Speaker 1: was what they all the players said. That's the genius
Speaker 1: of Parcels. Was was and coaches, All coaches do this,
Speaker 1: but the constantly drilling the situational stuff. The Hall of
Speaker 1: famers actually make it work. The Hall of Famer coaches
Speaker 1: make it work. Yeah. Yeah, But you have a Byron
Speaker 1: Nelson's story about Robs the same way you said about
Speaker 1: pro golfers. Yeah, he's in his eighties, you know, and
Speaker 1: he's and he's talking about it, and I'm interviewing him
Speaker 1: in the two thousands, and he talks about a shot
Speaker 1: he hit at the Philadelphia Athletic Club in nineteen thirty five.
Speaker 1: He's telling me a whole by whole how he played
Speaker 1: at the US Open. And I'm going, I'm thinking this
Speaker 1: is amazing. And I can't remember what I had for lunch,
Speaker 1: but he's telling me about shots he hit sixty something
Speaker 1: years ago. You know, I'm the same way I can't
Speaker 1: remember what I had for lunch whatever. But when it's
Speaker 1: something you really invest in ye care about, sure you
Speaker 1: can remember it. In fact, I remember at Channel five.
Speaker 1: When I worked at Channel five, we had an old
Speaker 1: tape archive system down in the basement, all our old
Speaker 1: tapes and all the stories that we used to run.
Speaker 1: And I had a remarkable I surprised myself with this,
Speaker 1: where I could remember specific dates on when we had
Speaker 1: done stories from like six years previous, and could go,
Speaker 1: that's on tape number nine zero eight two down in
Speaker 1: the basement, right, go right down there, and sure enough
Speaker 1: that story would be right there. But it was because
Speaker 1: I was invested in it and cared about it, and
Speaker 1: it was. And so I perfectly understand how Sean McVay
Speaker 1: or a Scott Lanahan or whoever you know, or Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott they can remember specifically exactly what happened on a
Speaker 1: drive play. And it's amazing how they remember the positive
Speaker 1: stuff the negative stuff. I'm not a little fuzzy on that.
Speaker 1: That's why I am. I can't remember that. I put
Speaker 1: the negative stuff out of my mind, you know, quickly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. You need to do that too, all right,
Speaker 1: Joe in Maryland is up on talking Cowboys. Hello Joe,
Speaker 1: how's it going, guys? I just wanted to touch on
Speaker 1: two quick points. I'd like to see our offense use
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott in a more creative way, kind of similar
Speaker 1: to how Philadelphia used to use Brian Westbrook back in
Speaker 1: the day. And the second thing is um who is
Speaker 1: on the hot seat more this season for a big result,
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott or Jason Garrett. Thank you guys. That was
Speaker 1: our twenty questions question that was for camp. That was
Speaker 1: you were around Brian Westbrook sum right, I was two
Speaker 1: different type of running backs. Think, yeah, really are? And
Speaker 1: you know, I think that this is I said this
Speaker 1: on Twitter yesterday and someone asked me about They go, hey,
Speaker 1: we need to use Ezekiel at more. And I've talked
Speaker 1: about his ability to pass block. But if he has
Speaker 1: games like he's had a couple of games where he's
Speaker 1: gone low when the guys got up and kind of
Speaker 1: affected the play, if he if he keeps struggling pass blocking,
Speaker 1: they're gonna use him in some routes. Get ready for that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, creativity, We talk about creativity so much,
Speaker 1: and I think there's some creative things they do. You know,
Speaker 1: everybody watched the Money Night game, Right, Bears run a
Speaker 1: shovel pass for a touchdown? You see that one? Yes,
Speaker 1: yea yeah, but everybody exactly. He goes, Andy Reid, this
Speaker 1: is such a creative you know, Dallas runs a shovel
Speaker 1: pass for two yards and you're kind of like, what
Speaker 1: the hell are they doing? You know, it's a lot
Speaker 1: of it is this execution on creativity. You can be
Speaker 1: really creative, but if the players don't execute the play, well,
Speaker 1: you're really creative. You know, you could come up with ideas.
Speaker 1: And I'm not giving Lenahan a pass, but I'm saying
Speaker 1: there's things that they're coming up with that aren't executed
Speaker 1: very well. And I would rather than execute plays, you know,
Speaker 1: be consistent of executing running plays and those and those plays.
Speaker 1: The hat what's it? The halves? What's he called the given?
Speaker 1: The givens. Let's yeah, keep working on keep working on
Speaker 1: those givens. Those givens are moving you down the field.
Speaker 1: But you know, and I understand, Bryan Westburg, You're right, Mickey,
Speaker 1: completely different back. But it's just I think there's some
Speaker 1: creative things they do, and they get a holding call,
Speaker 1: or they get a sack, or they get you know,
Speaker 1: or he throws the ball too high, or or they
Speaker 1: don't block the right guy and the shovel pass only
Speaker 1: goes for three yards. Creative call on the six yard
Speaker 1: touchdown run. Yeah, I got my running back to the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and he did at the wrist go
Speaker 1: ask TCU about creative place? Oh, no kidding, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just I just think I think there's creative ways pass. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think there's creative ways to do things. And I
Speaker 1: understand his call. But you know what, they had some
Speaker 1: creative runs. I thought they had some different design runs. Yes,
Speaker 1: the blocking is different to get them to the edge,
Speaker 1: to get guys pulling. Look at that stuff. You don't
Speaker 1: need to be flipping end a round and they did that.
Speaker 1: They did it. Yeah, and it was big game. And
Speaker 1: not only did it, yeah, not only does Zeke make
Speaker 1: a good decision, but he I don't know if he
Speaker 1: just happened to make the blocker ran into the block,
Speaker 1: but he blocked the guy too. So it was it
Speaker 1: not creative to let Dak keep the ball on some
Speaker 1: of those run options. I just I don't read. I'm
Speaker 1: a big fan of creativity. But I'm also a big
Speaker 1: fan of give me some plays I can hang my
Speaker 1: hat on right, give me those plays, you know, and
Speaker 1: and give me give me the guy that you know
Speaker 1: can run it for four or five yards at a
Speaker 1: shot when they just pushing people off the ball, and
Speaker 1: Ezekiel it's making a cut or two. And you know,
Speaker 1: they had some creative plays if you think about it, though.
Speaker 1: The two big best running plays they had they ran
Speaker 1: they they they they you know how they motioned the
Speaker 1: wide receiver in the block and they motioned him in
Speaker 1: and then instead of blocking him, they they arc release
Speaker 1: him out and then they trap with the tight end
Speaker 1: coming inside. And then Elliott you know, had and they
Speaker 1: had two really big runs. That's a creative way of
Speaker 1: blocking and doing some things. But it's more subtle. It's
Speaker 1: more subtle than an It's one of those times. I
Speaker 1: noticed it twice and both times it was successful. So
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, Okay, he ran it one time. I wonder
Speaker 1: if he'll come back to yeah what he did. He
Speaker 1: came back to it later in the game, got seventeen
Speaker 1: yards on the play. So those are things. If you
Speaker 1: could find those those types of plays, I'm all for
Speaker 1: it again. He ran the shovel pass and practice that
Speaker 1: thing goes out the gate, but in a game it
Speaker 1: goes for two yards. But when the Bears run it,
Speaker 1: it's a touchdown to Trey Burton coming inside. Too many
Speaker 1: gingerbread plays will get you in trouble. Being cute, cute
Speaker 1: place where gingerbread come from. Gingerbread house. So this was
Speaker 1: it was a old term from former Missouri head coach
Speaker 1: Warren Powers. Yeah, he called him gingerbread plays. Really. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta have some staples and then you can mix
Speaker 1: a few too many gingerbread potatoes place. Yeah, there's a
Speaker 1: gingerbread house fall down easily. No. I think it's just
Speaker 1: like a cookie thing, you know, put a little decorations
Speaker 1: on it. It's a little dessert. Yea. And as far
Speaker 1: as the quarterback and the coach, they're tied, they're tied
Speaker 1: together here, they're time he they need each other, one
Speaker 1: needs the other to be successful. I think there's a
Speaker 1: lot of pressure on Sean Lee get back. Mickey hates
Speaker 1: this question. It's terrible. Well, look, man, there's two guys
Speaker 1: that have wins attached. That's what I lost. Say. We
Speaker 1: don't count Sean Lee's record, do we Well, that's the
Speaker 1: that's the job. That's why quarterbacks get all the credit.
Speaker 1: That's why coaches get all the credit, and that's why
Speaker 1: they get the most. Understand Well, he's playing for an extension, though,
Speaker 1: Is that's pressure? That's pressure? I always say the coach
Speaker 1: has the most pressure though, because everything falls at his feet. Everything,
Speaker 1: the offense, the defense, is special teams. But he doesn't
Speaker 1: have to get it. I think extension. I think like
Speaker 1: he got another year to prove himself after this, right, right,
Speaker 1: you know I think that if he has a good year,
Speaker 1: you want to reward him for that. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's an opportunity for sure, huge opportunity. They both have pressure,
Speaker 1: I'll say it. We're all playing for an extension, right,
Speaker 1: Just depends who you're playing too. How much that extension? Yes,
Speaker 1: that's a Christmas bonus or something? You feel pressure making?
Speaker 1: I always feel pressure, Rob Do you feel pressure? Sure? Sure, Bryan?
Speaker 1: Every day? Yeah, if my name's on top of what
Speaker 1: I'm doing, then there's some pressure to right, that's right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I think I think I think people look
Speaker 1: at pressure different ways though. You know, you gotta push yourself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you have to create some pressure for yourself. You got
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Speaker 1: In this last fifteen minutes or so of the show,
Speaker 1: we talked a little about a bit about Seattle injuries.
Speaker 1: At the top of the show, how the Cowboys doing
Speaker 1: injury wise. Mickey Shaun Lee didn't practice. But if intent
Speaker 1: means anything, then he intends to play. I don't know
Speaker 1: if that counts. He was out on the chords for
Speaker 1: the majority of the practice yesterday, full uniform, pads, helmet
Speaker 1: of course, ready to go, right, So I don't know
Speaker 1: if he was trying to convince him that he could
Speaker 1: practice and they're trying to save him from himself to
Speaker 1: be in full pads. I wouldn't doubt it. Was it
Speaker 1: the was it the finale in twenty sixteen when they
Speaker 1: had home field sewn up and he wasn't playing, or
Speaker 1: he stood there with his helmet on for three and
Speaker 1: a half hour Chili Day, Chili Day. But that's that's
Speaker 1: for you. He wanted to listen to the signals, didn't he? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he can't have too many people listening to those signals, though, Baltimore,
Speaker 1: how about the safety spot? How about the safety spot?
Speaker 1: Talked to the talked to Xavier Woods yesterday. He says
Speaker 1: he's he's ready to go unless there's some kind of
Speaker 1: setback in practice. He should be ready to roll. He
Speaker 1: hadn't practice. Yeah, what you get with Frasier getting bench now?
Speaker 1: Because I bet I bet you see a rotation going,
Speaker 1: so those guys don't have to quickly see free play.
Speaker 1: How quickly you see Fraser on the field, then you're
Speaker 1: gonna tell me they're gonna rotate. How quickly is he
Speaker 1: getting on the field second or probably the third series?
Speaker 1: Give him on how length the series are. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: they may have some packages that they use them on,
Speaker 1: particularly on whatever they're playing. Yeah, but you guys have
Speaker 1: you guys have no problem with with Woods just jumping
Speaker 1: right back in the starting lineup. Um, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't trying to make you think a little bit here, boys, Well,
Speaker 1: what do you think I would play Frasier myself? I
Speaker 1: absolutely would play Frasier. They've done just a They've done
Speaker 1: a fine job defensively. He hasn't been a liability. He
Speaker 1: looks like he's worked well with Heath. Why do you
Speaker 1: want to wreck there? You got a guy that can blitz,
Speaker 1: you got a guy that can tackle. I'm not necessarily
Speaker 1: sure that Xavier Woods can do all the things that
Speaker 1: we've seen Cabone Frasier do. Yeah, it's not like feel
Speaker 1: free to answer the question now, So did we see
Speaker 1: that in training camp before he get hurt? I don't
Speaker 1: think you know me personally. There's reasons why we talked
Speaker 1: about going getting real time US. That's why you fought
Speaker 1: it as you want to see this guy play. So
Speaker 1: I've seen guys play. I've seen Cavan Frasier play. Now
Speaker 1: he'll he could very well play better than what Xavier
Speaker 1: Woods good. It's kind of like the dependent on what
Speaker 1: you're asking you want. Do you want Heath, Do you
Speaker 1: want Heath closer to the line of scrimmage? Do you
Speaker 1: want Heath playing pay? What? Can they both? They've played both,
Speaker 1: so I would not want to play Woods now, So
Speaker 1: you think they're more versatile with the current Damn damn right,
Speaker 1: I do. I'd want to work Xavier back in, but
Speaker 1: I'm okay with sticking one of what they've got and
Speaker 1: turned and maybe given the first game back he told
Speaker 1: me he had to get his win back yesterday. Maybe
Speaker 1: first came back, he gets thirty snaps, you know, and
Speaker 1: they just work it that way and he rotates with
Speaker 1: Frasier that way. Okay, Let's let's take it to defensive end.
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory was out last week. It's like Randy Gregory
Speaker 1: comes back this week. How do you handle defensive end
Speaker 1: with Taco Charlton. Well, so I'm go ahead, and I'm
Speaker 1: go ahead and kicking Crawfords. Crawford's gonna be my undertackle.
Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying? Well, before Gregory got hurt,
Speaker 1: you had Taco in the starting lineup. Any Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: he was. He was a rotation back with that. I
Speaker 1: would stick with that and clear passing downs. Gregory's at
Speaker 1: right defensive end, and maybe you kick Tacco inside in
Speaker 1: certain situations, or or you got Crawford inside as well. Um,
Speaker 1: Crawford's inside, Taco's played off. Questions you now have is
Speaker 1: what's going on with Leek Collins? That's your question now? Inside?
Speaker 1: Forgot about that. Yes, he did not practice and I
Speaker 1: don't know. Micky think he's gonna practice this week. He well,
Speaker 1: guys are always hopeful, they're always optimistic that they can play.
Speaker 1: He's got a sprained MCL. That doesn't sound like something
Speaker 1: you just jump back from. Yeah, here's a couple of point.
Speaker 1: His point was when I talked to him, he goes
Speaker 1: on playing. I go, oh you are, and he goes yeah.
Speaker 1: He goes like, you know, I don't miss games, and
Speaker 1: I hadn't missed a game. I don't miss he does
Speaker 1: play hurt. He does play hurt. He does play this
Speaker 1: all to my intent. Well, the value also of having
Speaker 1: competition at each position, and those those injured players, they
Speaker 1: want to get back as quickly as possible because they
Speaker 1: can see that Cavon Frasier's playing pretty well right now,
Speaker 1: or a Taco or Woods inside. That's actually that's actually
Speaker 1: what Xavier Wood said yesterday. So these guys have been
Speaker 1: bawling back there. I want to get back part of that.
Speaker 1: And he wants to get his snaps back too, And yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean those guys are seeing a David Irving's out
Speaker 1: for a couple more weeks and then he's back. They
Speaker 1: don't want to get well, watch Dayton Jones in this game.
Speaker 1: Dayton Jones. Yeah, there's a guy now you if you
Speaker 1: talked about problems with MALIEK. Collins, you can play Dayton
Speaker 1: Jones at that one. Matter of fact, he's pretty good
Speaker 1: at that one. He was your starting one of your
Speaker 1: starting tackles in camp with Malik out. Yeah, before he
Speaker 1: got hurt. Well, that was kind of a the situation there.
Speaker 1: That was I mean, any whin strand just the misevaluation
Speaker 1: my part with the other guy that you know from
Speaker 1: OTAs and stuff. I thought Ward was going to play
Speaker 1: better than he did. Anybody ever pick him up? I
Speaker 1: don't think so. I don't think so. Someone did and
Speaker 1: they let him go. Remember how do you get picked up? Yea,
Speaker 1: let go? And I can't remember what team I have
Speaker 1: to work. I'm sorry, miss that. Let's go to Josh
Speaker 1: in Maryland. Next up here on Talking Cowboys. Hello Josh, Hey, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't appreciate you taking my car. Everybody's donna well, um,
Speaker 1: A couple of quick things, uh Mayton. I noticed that
Speaker 1: he did pretty good once they poul Sean Lee out
Speaker 1: of the out of the fold in that Giants game,
Speaker 1: he was actually getting some tackles off Saint Kuon Barkley
Speaker 1: by himself. I thought that was a good sign as
Speaker 1: far as because the development, because they were talking about
Speaker 1: his physicality beginning on, and I've seen some packages in
Speaker 1: the preseason. I believes is in that second game when
Speaker 1: they had um Xavier Wood was playing a slot in
Speaker 1: the nickel defense. Am I wrong about that? They had
Speaker 1: him playing the slot and they had Cavan and Jeesseath
Speaker 1: on the field at the same time too. No, they
Speaker 1: were might yeah, yeah, they were using the corners. They
Speaker 1: were playing true corners at that time. Now he played it.
Speaker 1: Last year, he played last year he played nickel play,
Speaker 1: he played some nickel when Brown struggled, and then he
Speaker 1: played dime. We haven't seen much dime, not at all,
Speaker 1: not at all, not harden him practicing. Were you talking
Speaker 1: about vander esh and the first question or the first right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: when he came in for Sean Lee, I thought he
Speaker 1: did pretty solid and that little think that he did
Speaker 1: in there. Um so I think I'll lie back. The
Speaker 1: rotation is pretty good as far as that ask. But
Speaker 1: offense is really the biggest concern for me as far
Speaker 1: as I don't understand why we're not getting Tavon Austin
Speaker 1: involved a little bit more because we were on the
Speaker 1: field with him that we h we put points on
Speaker 1: the board. Yeah, he does have the fewest snaps of
Speaker 1: all receivers on the team so far. I think it's
Speaker 1: twenty years. I think that's about to change. Does he
Speaker 1: have the most productive Yeah, he's gonna change her snap yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I would definitely. That's a flint pass that we like
Speaker 1: to do. Um, I know, if you get about six
Speaker 1: seven yards, I feel like in backholder, just for a
Speaker 1: little bit a second log they can really break over
Speaker 1: for these receivers. When we get that man and man
Speaker 1: and they do that slant right they're in the inside.
Speaker 1: It's always against the Sis seven guys, but they're always
Speaker 1: going right down as soon as as soon as they
Speaker 1: catch that pass. But I know you all see the
Speaker 1: all twenty two, so I know y'all get a better
Speaker 1: view of what he might see on the field as
Speaker 1: far as I don't. No, man, you got pretty good perspective.
Speaker 1: It's fine, and you know, and sometimes what it comes
Speaker 1: down to is the quarterback site lines like he sees
Speaker 1: where it's open to throw it. If he waits, maybe
Speaker 1: they close up. But that's a good point because the
Speaker 1: slant does work, but the guy goes down as soon
Speaker 1: as they catches it. It seems that the longer, Yeah,
Speaker 1: especially when the safety will knock you out the one
Speaker 1: they're about to play. So yeah, I don't know how
Speaker 1: much you want to go inside there, but yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, you got guys like Thompson Hearns, They got
Speaker 1: some tough guys. They'll catch those routes. But yeah, get
Speaker 1: ready for that number twenty nine come screaming downhill at
Speaker 1: you if if he gets a shot. By the way,
Speaker 1: jahad Ward is with the Indianapolis Colts. Okay, there you go.
Speaker 1: So he did land on, He did land him yea,
Speaker 1: although there wasn't a history here, although I guess there
Speaker 1: was the same as he had him at the Senior Bowl. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Remember that was the story of Arionellis. So there there's
Speaker 1: your history. There, there's always a history. Uh. Y' all
Speaker 1: talked about Dorance Armstrong this week. Did you talk to him?
Speaker 1: I think him a little bit, but not overly. I
Speaker 1: mentioned him to the head coach yesterday as a sneak
Speaker 1: preview of the Jason Garrett Show in our last time
Speaker 1: When does that air? Would air? Well, you'll be able
Speaker 1: to catch it on Dallas Cowboys dot com, but also
Speaker 1: locally in Dallas Fort Worth. It's on CBS eleven at
Speaker 1: the un sightly time in the morning, Yeah, eleven thirty
Speaker 1: pm on Saturday nights, but thirty recorded and watched special
Speaker 1: editions at eleven and then at eleven thirty is casing
Speaker 1: Garrette kept rolling in from being out on the town. Yea.
Speaker 1: After your college football Saturday, Yeah, ready to go Sunday
Speaker 1: right there. So that's the reason for it, all right. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Unsung star of the week. I made Dorn's Armstrong the
Speaker 1: unsung star of the week for his play on the
Speaker 1: goal line and the third quarter on the se Quon
Speaker 1: Barkley six yard loss that actually there was a penalty
Speaker 1: on it, and they went on he drove, he drove
Speaker 1: Ellison into next week, right and uh and so Barkley
Speaker 1: had to go deep in yeah, random hump yeah and um.
Speaker 1: The coach said. His response was, were you sitting in
Speaker 1: on our meetings today? Apparently they took that play and
Speaker 1: showed it to the team this is how you play,
Speaker 1: talking that's how you play, and talking about how impactful
Speaker 1: that play was on the entire game. I mean, they're
Speaker 1: sitting there first and goal at the three yard line.
Speaker 1: It was probably ten nothing game at the point, and
Speaker 1: they score a touchdown. There a whole different ball game exactly.
Speaker 1: And he actually drew a holding call on the play too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right, so he backed him up. Colboys had a
Speaker 1: chance to take the down and they didn't. They backed it.
Speaker 1: I didn't have time to follow up with the coach
Speaker 1: on why they took the penalty and not the six yards.
Speaker 1: I had a little question about that myself sitting there,
Speaker 1: but okay, it worked out pretty good. It was the
Speaker 1: end of the show. You know what Dorris Armstrong is
Speaker 1: a is a guy that's he's got a trouble buck
Speaker 1: on his face. No, no, I was go ahead. They
Speaker 1: questioned it down the broadcast. Dorce Armstrong is a guy
Speaker 1: that you kind of feel like that coming out of Kansas,
Speaker 1: he was really just a pass rusher. You know, you
Speaker 1: play in the Big twelve, you really play a lot
Speaker 1: against a lot of passing offense. It's upfield, upfield, up field.
Speaker 1: But I don't think he gets enough credit for really
Speaker 1: how strong he is. And he's a lot stronger than
Speaker 1: what Taco was at this time last year. So yeah,
Speaker 1: he reached exactly he can extend it. And you know,
Speaker 1: Rett Ellison is not a bad blocking tight end for
Speaker 1: the Giants. That's how he's in the league. And so yeah,
Speaker 1: for him to take him straight back and then draw
Speaker 1: the holding call, I think says a lot about and
Speaker 1: the fact that they're playing in both at the left
Speaker 1: and the right and there and there seems to be
Speaker 1: no real issues there with him. It's not like he's
Speaker 1: like you know, sometimes switch hitters in baseball that hit better,
Speaker 1: But this guy plays well on either side. And if
Speaker 1: he continues to play well in the run, that's that's
Speaker 1: only that helps even more because that's what Laurds can
Speaker 1: do too. Laurens can play not only he's an elite
Speaker 1: Pastors troupe, but he could play some elite down run.
Speaker 1: He will snack, he will blow runs up and him
Speaker 1: inside a couple of times. But Armstrong, when when Lawrence
Speaker 1: went out to get his IV, he was playing left defensive,
Speaker 1: are was It wasn't like okay and that he was playing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not the little skinny guy that's going to rush
Speaker 1: the quarterback on the right side. He stood up on
Speaker 1: the run on the left side and played a lot
Speaker 1: of snaps too. Because he missed I think he missed
Speaker 1: an entire series. And then when he came back, they
Speaker 1: kind of used him as a pass rusher more than
Speaker 1: an every down player. And Armstrong was the guy out
Speaker 1: there boya with the Cowboys. I think the weather's gonna
Speaker 1: be I'm sorry, make him take your weather thing here?
Speaker 1: Oh no, that's tomorrow sixty degrees yeah, game time kind
Speaker 1: of thing. Yeah, So I mean maybe right though. Yeah, well, anyway,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are gonna feel great playing in that conditions.
Speaker 1: You know, they've been practicing some really really hot weather.
Speaker 1: But you go up there, it's gonna be like, hey,
Speaker 1: run all day. You might not have to worry. It
Speaker 1: might turn into a game where you sometimes you play
Speaker 1: like at Tampa and you have to rush, rush, rush, rush, rush.
Speaker 1: Then you do get those ivy situations. But up there
Speaker 1: and this, if they could, if they can make Seattle
Speaker 1: one dimensional and it turns into rush, rush, rush, rush,
Speaker 1: these guys will at least the weather I think will
Speaker 1: help them with that endeavor. It's not like being in
Speaker 1: Muggy Carolina like it was two weeks ago. Not at all.
Speaker 1: One other thing on door. It's armstrong and I had
Speaker 1: forgotten this if I knew it in the first place.
Speaker 1: I mean, he was only twenty years old when he
Speaker 1: was drafted by this team. You've turned twenty one in June.
Speaker 1: That the sky's the limit, loot Angel goes um. But
Speaker 1: and the other thing to your point about the conditions,
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys need in this game and every game,
Speaker 1: to be a second half team, and that's one of
Speaker 1: the reasons why they were running win sprints and Oxnard
Speaker 1: is to make sure that they are and out here
Speaker 1: in full pads. Right, this is the third Wednesday they
Speaker 1: practiced in full pads, so you know that they are
Speaker 1: intent on trying to make sure that they can finish,
Speaker 1: will not have the same second halves of games that
Speaker 1: they had during their horrible stretch in November last year.
Speaker 1: I assume they'll be inside today. But that was the
Speaker 1: hottest day yesterday out here in two or three weeks.
Speaker 1: So yeah, full pads. That was out there molling my lawn,
Speaker 1: you know you absolutely no, of course you were, Bill,
Speaker 1: you fixing it up? Did you fix the lawnmower and
Speaker 1: air conditioning? Though? No, I was out in the driveway.
Speaker 1: I was in the shade though. Yes, if sears can't fish,
Speaker 1: they can't think my wife would let me bring the
Speaker 1: lawnmower in the house. You might have air conditions again
Speaker 1: your garage. You know you're big timer. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: all right, I think that's about does it for Talking
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