1 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha, and welcome to stuff 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: I ever told your protection of iHeart radio, and it's 3 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: time for another happy hour and this one's gonna be 4 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: mostly happy, although there will be some unhappy parts of it. 5 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: But mostly happy? Is that another segment? Mostly happy? Mostly 6 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: it's just me. I like it. I think that's more 7 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: accurate to most of you, probably probably as always. If 8 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: you are choosing to drink, please do so responsibly. Uh, Samantha, 9 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: what are you sipping on? Uh? You know, I discovered 10 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: the Brooklyn Summer pale Ill and it's nice and crisp 11 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: in low a b b Uh. It's called the Sunny 12 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: Pale l and thoroughly. So that's what I'm drinking on today. 13 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: What about you? Yeah? Well, I just lamented to you 14 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: that I have no cold drinks available to me right now, 15 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: so I am drinking boxed red wine in my delicious 16 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: hot hot studio closet. You can, you know, fancy it up, 17 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: but I think ice. I've never added ice to straight 18 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 1: boxed red wine, and I have to say my immediate 19 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 1: reaction is like recoiling drinking box wine, baby bou. I 20 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: mean no hate on boxed wine. I love some boxed wine. 21 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, that's what's making you recoil. I think 22 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: you'll be okay. But I get you. I get you. Yeah, 23 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 1: like saying yeah, I get it. I mean it's true, 24 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: You're right. Maybe I'm drawing lines where they don't need 25 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: to thank you, thank you. It's not bad, but it 26 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: is quite hot and I would love a refreshing, cool beverage. Right. Well, 27 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: so today's Julife fifth. Um, so we're out of Pride month. 28 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: But I did want to do kind of a little 29 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: update that I shared with Samantha because it's sort of 30 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: a powerful moment I experienced recently. Uh, and it happened 31 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: after we had are now real friends. I r L 32 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: friend Kay Osborne, who was a guest on this show 33 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: a couple whiles back. We met at a restaurant. We 34 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: had a lovely lunch together. Delicious. We did We made 35 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: a friend as an adult, Samantha, we did it. We 36 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: did that too. You and I were yes. I mean 37 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 1: I like a few of them, and it's nice to have. 38 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,399 Speaker 1: It is funny though, because it feels like a set 39 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 1: up in a weird way. You and I kind of 40 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: happened naturally, but a lot of times when I've personally 41 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: made friends as an adult, it's felt kind of like 42 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: a setup or something. What if they don't like me? Sure? 43 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: I mean, to be fair, we did sit like we 44 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: were interviewing Kate at one point, so that was super awkward. 45 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: It was awkward, but it was it turned up to 46 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: be love plate and it was great. I think we're 47 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,239 Speaker 1: gonna hang out again, you know, fingers crossed. I don't 48 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: think she's lying to us, but I hope not. But 49 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: she posted about, uh, the episode we did together on 50 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: a D H D in sex and also the episode 51 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: I was on on her show about just D and 52 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: D and fangirl stuff. And after that I got a 53 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: lot of followers. Um a lot. I mean for me 54 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: a lot. It's like five to ten and that's essentially happened, 55 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: but yeah, that's a lot mm hmm. And a lot 56 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: of them we're ACE. They were a sexual uh, and 57 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: they kind of reached out to me and we're like, oh, hi, 58 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: I see, you know, nice to meet another person who's ACE. 59 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: And I broke down into tears about the started crying 60 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: because I just like it felt like a belonging I 61 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: haven't felt because I've been I've told people I was 62 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: queer since high school, but it's always been something where 63 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: I felt like I'm on the outskirts of it and 64 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: I had no right to claim the label, and like, 65 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, like if I went to a Pride event, 66 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: they'd see me be like, no, you don't belong here. 67 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 1: You are fake. And as I said in many of 68 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: these episodes, I didn't know a sexuality was a thing 69 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,679 Speaker 1: until two thousand eleven when I was working on this show. 70 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: I didn't know like there was a romantic spectrum until 71 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: even later, I think, And I pretty much came out 72 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: to you all on this podcast like that was my experience. 73 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: I have come out to people in person since then, 74 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: but everyone I've come out to you and this is 75 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: this is gonna sound kind of bad, but I think 76 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: it's true. It's partly my fault because I've done it 77 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: in sort of a cowardly way, like a little back doorway, 78 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: like I don't like sex and that's how identify and 79 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: a sexuality is a thing, right, And then they'll be 80 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: like yeah, sure. So it's sort of been like that 81 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 1: kind of roundabout method. Um So a lot of people 82 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: who do know I'm a sexual found out through the show. 83 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is basically, I've done it in 84 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: a kind of an isolated environment, kind of a strange, 85 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: strange way to do it, but you know, every fretty 86 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: story is different. I'm a big believer in that. But 87 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: and also the pandemic hit like soon after, so it's 88 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just felt very I'm not sure 89 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: lonely is the right word. But I've still felt very 90 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: unsure about it, and like I cut and claim it 91 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: or someone would tell me I'm wrong, and like that's 92 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: not a thing which people have. But but after I 93 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: got all these people and I saw these people following 94 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: me back or following me, and I was like, oh 95 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: my god, this is a thing and I've along and 96 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: I could like meet people who are like me and 97 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: it's not just me, and oh my god, I sobbed. 98 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: I saw the way and then like I found out, 99 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: I was so excited it. I almost sent you this 100 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: very long text and I deleted it because I was like, 101 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: you need to calm down and think about this first. 102 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: Come on. This is how I found out about twittles, 103 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: because I was like, oh, I could put the flag 104 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: on mine and then on my Twitter account and then 105 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: I could they would know. But twitterles is a whole thing, 106 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: that's what they're called. Yeah, you told me about it, 107 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: so we're gonna actually planning an episode on that. But 108 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: those are basically the icons you can have uh in 109 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: your Twitter bio and it's kind of a politics game, 110 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: sort of similar to like emojis about which ones are made, 111 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: aren't um, But I found like the a sexual flag 112 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: with a bi romantic heart, and it just so happened 113 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: that night one of my very favorite fan fiction authors 114 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: wrote a story about someone who is a sexual viromantic 115 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: and it was so sweet. Oh my gosh. But like 116 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 1: I know, the capitalization of Pride month is a whole 117 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: thing and it's a problem. But I bought a shirt, everybody, 118 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: I bought a shirt, a sexual Pride shirt, and I 119 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: bought some pins and I bought a flag. Oh my god, 120 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: and it was so nice. It was like something was 121 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: clicking into place where it's sort of just been slightly 122 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: out of place this whole time. Um and I all 123 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: of you, we always say it and it's true, but 124 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: so many of you have written in and you've been 125 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: so welcoming, and you've told me about your own experience. Um, 126 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: and even some of you specifically a sexual by romantic 127 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: experience or a sexual spectrum at all. And it's been 128 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: so nice. But I've still always felt like I haven't 129 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: been in this world long and I haven't known my 130 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: stuff long enough. It's not right for me to claim it. 131 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: So it's it was just it felt good. It felt good. 132 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: I got a bunch of pins. We're gonna put them 133 00:07:55,200 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: all over. Yeah, it was. It was really nice. It 134 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: was like an easing of tension, I guess. And all 135 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: this just came from seeing other people who are identify 136 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: the same way. UM, so thank you. If you're listening, 137 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: thank you. I'm sure you had no idea that's impact 138 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: on me, but it did. It did. So Yeah, I'm 139 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: very excited. My shirts coming in today. Okay, I was 140 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: gonna say when is it coming in? It's coming in today, 141 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna rocket at the beach because I'm about 142 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: to go to the beach. You got like an ACE 143 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: card on it. You can take the flag to, yeah, probably, 144 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: but the whole the flag is a lot of drama people. 145 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure you can imagine why. But I have family 146 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: members who are not as cool with queer people and 147 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: it caused there's a lot of gossip in trauma, but 148 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: they wouldn't know what that flag was. That's say. I 149 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: wonder how many people would know what it is. I 150 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: don't think they would know, but they would ask whatever. 151 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: We'll see how much drama I want to cause on 152 00:08:55,160 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: my reach? Oh oh I will, Oh, I will. I'm 153 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: excited for you to see the shirt. Pretty cool. I 154 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: think it's pretty cool. I did want to mention very briefly, 155 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: there has been a lot of sad stuff during Pride 156 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: this year, where there's violence at Pride events and now 157 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: with row v weight overturned. I've had a lot of 158 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 1: friends who are in gay marriages that are very scared. 159 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: I've had friends who have come out to their parents 160 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: recently and partly because of this, and haven't had a 161 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: great reaction. But um, I don't know. I'm just we 162 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: should talk about those things, and we will talk about 163 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: those things. But it is nice to know. But there's 164 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: a community and there is belonging. And thank you, just 165 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you to you Samantha for being so 166 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: supportive on this whole thing with me listening to we're 167 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure you're like, what is she talking about But 168 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: I'm telling you it's good. Yes. So, and thank you 169 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: to all your your listeners because he really helped me 170 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: and it's just like that get to share this story 171 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: with all of you. So cheers, cheers, Ran, cheers yes 172 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 1: um and as always, we do love hearing from you. 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