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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. Welcome into another edition of Crush City Territory.

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Speaker 1: My name is Chandler Room, along with Tyler Stafford, and

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Speaker 1: we are here to cope. We are here to be

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Speaker 1: your psychiatrists. After Buddy Healed cooked the Rockets last night

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Speaker 1: and eliminated them from the Western Conference playoffs, and the

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Speaker 1: Astros lost a series to the Chicago White Sox, which

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Speaker 1: is never a sentence that any team wants to hear,

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Speaker 1: much less an Astro's team that is contending or purports

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Speaker 1: itself as a contender for the American League pennant. You know,

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Speaker 1: they didn't finish the last game. The Astros had six

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Speaker 1: outs to go, they were down five to four. The

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Speaker 1: way that they got down five to four is kind

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Speaker 1: of been a harbinger of their season. Luise Roberts stole

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Speaker 1: second base on a pitch out from a left handed pitcher,

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Speaker 1: no Less, and then scored the go ahead run on

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Speaker 1: a single. This team has not held runners well all year.

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Speaker 1: This pitching staff is not good at holding runners. They

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Speaker 1: even knew that Louise robert was to steal, and they

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Speaker 1: still could not throw him out. He comes around to

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Speaker 1: score the go ahead run and the Astros lose five

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Speaker 1: to four in a rain shortened game. But the story,

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Speaker 1: obviously Tyler in that game was not the final result.

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Speaker 1: It was Lance mccollors coming back for the first time

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Speaker 1: in nine hundred and fifteen days pitching in a regular

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Speaker 1: season Major league game. What'd you think of Lance's return?

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Speaker 2: Man, I was so happy. I just I had a

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Speaker 2: big smile on the whole time watching him pitch. It

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Speaker 2: took me until about the third inning that I wasn't

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Speaker 2: cringing after every pitch because you know, it was cold.

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Speaker 2: So he kept like blowing his hand and he would

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Speaker 2: kind of adjust, you know, his pants and wipe and

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Speaker 2: each time I was like, oh, no, is he hurt,

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Speaker 2: Like something happened. So it took me a little bit

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Speaker 2: to get into the rhythm of him. But man, so

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Speaker 2: good to see him back out there. I, like we

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Speaker 2: talked about with Josh. My only expectation was please just

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Speaker 2: on your own, and he did, and that's all I

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Speaker 2: rain started coming that they were going to call the

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Speaker 2: game in, you know, the middle of the fifth inning,

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Speaker 2: and it wouldn't count, and we'd have to readjust our

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Speaker 2: Mcolors hasn't pitched in this many days stats, and it

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Speaker 2: would be a weird footnote forever. So I'm glad it

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Speaker 2: it counted for that reason. Not glad with the outcome

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Speaker 2: that was. That was quite frustrating to watch. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: so good to see M. Colors back out there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought Lance was very was very pragmatic after

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Speaker 1: the game. You know, he didn't want this to be

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Speaker 1: about his return. He said, you know, look, someone pointed

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Speaker 1: out that was nine hundred and fifteen days, and you know,

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Speaker 1: he said he'd be lying if he wasn't excited that

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Speaker 1: he got back from from that point. But he also

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Speaker 1: said numerous times two things can be true. I'm happy

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Speaker 1: for the milestone that I got back onto a mound.

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Speaker 1: But he knows he has to get deeper into games.

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Speaker 1: He knows his stuff has to be better. He knows

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Speaker 1: that just to be a viable member of this rotation,

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Speaker 3: Are not going to get it done.

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Speaker 1: Going three and two thirds innings against what is the

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Speaker 1: worst lineup in the American League, maybe the worst lineup

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Speaker 1: in baseball. The Colorado Rockies have some contention there as

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Speaker 1: being the worst. But I think anyone that expected Lance

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Speaker 3: Fifteen days away, I think that's just foolish.

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Speaker 1: Like he wasn't going to come back and look like

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Speaker 1: the old Lance mccolors right off the bat. I think

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Speaker 1: there's some stuff to like he got week. A lot

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Speaker 1: He was throwing right and right change ups, which you're

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Speaker 1: because his slider was just not there. He called it,

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Speaker 1: And that's his main weapon against right handed hitters. That

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Speaker 1: first three or four starts, then the velocity was about

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Speaker 1: be patient with this.

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Speaker 3: This is not going to be.

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Speaker 1: A mccullor's is back to mccullor's form in two or

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Speaker 1: three starts. This is gonna he's gonna need a little

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Speaker 3: To normal quote unquote normal.

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Speaker 1: And he's gonna have that because they're about to go

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I will admit I was nervous the first pitch

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Speaker 2: But he touched ninety four in the first inning, and

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Speaker 2: you're right that change up, man, like that thing was moving,

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Speaker 2: first inning that he just threw those two changeups back

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Speaker 2: He watched the first one, he swung through the second

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Speaker 2: the movement looked pretty good. The slider just wasn't there.

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Speaker 2: He was leaving it up a ton. He just he

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Speaker 2: couldn't place it where he wanted to. But that'll that'll

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Speaker 2: come with time. It's a feel pitch, and you know,

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Speaker 2: sometimes you have those days like I mean, we see

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Speaker 2: good to see him out there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think all in all, his return kind of

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Speaker 1: We said on the last pod like, I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: the Astros knew what they were going to get. On Sunday,

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Speaker 1: I think everyone left. I'm not gonna say surprised, but

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Speaker 1: the pitch count that they had before the game. Joe

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Speaker 1: He ended up throwing eighty seven pitches. And part of

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Speaker 1: that was he got into a long, a long fourth inning.

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Speaker 1: Joe wanted him to finish that. He wanted him to

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Speaker 2: He got that strike out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that was a strike, but you know, borderline call

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Speaker 1: that's kind of how this whole saga has been. You know,

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Speaker 1: Lance's body has betrayed him.

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Speaker 3: So much.

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Speaker 1: He's not trying to get hurt. This has kind of

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Speaker 1: The rest of the pitching staff this weekend was okay.

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Speaker 1: Hunter Brown did not have a good first inning, but

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Speaker 1: don't have to keep saying it, like he's the ace

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Speaker 1: winning that day. And of course the one game that

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Speaker 1: they won this series, hunter browns on the mount.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like we keep saying this. I don't

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Speaker 2: even think Hunter Brown has had a good game this year,

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Speaker 2: and it just looks effortless for him. You know, he's

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Speaker 2: he's really had to work in a lot of these starts,

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Speaker 2: You know, this one was three runs, but a lot

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Speaker 2: of times it's zero runs, and he hasn't even had

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and like and it's also like it's he got

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Speaker 1: of weak contact, some ground balls that had eyes. Vaughn

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Speaker 1: bloped that that ball in the shallow center for for

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Speaker 1: for the two run single. You know, Hunter even said

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Speaker 1: after the game he was getting the contact he wanted,

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Speaker 1: he was getting the results he wanted. Just sometimes baseball's

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Speaker 1: a baseball's a lux sport. Sometimes if the balls just

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Speaker 3: Just is what it is.

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Speaker 1: Fromberveld does did not pitch particularly well. I wouldn't say

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Speaker 1: he was an abject disaster, but but did not pitch

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Speaker 1: did not do what you expect Fromberveld does to do

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Speaker 1: against what we just said is the worst lineup in

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Speaker 1: Baseball on Friday Night, Tyler, We're going to talk a

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Speaker 1: little bit more about Fromber in a little while, But

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Speaker 1: how would you.

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Speaker 3: Just assess his season overall?

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Speaker 1: Just just what you have seen from him after seven

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Speaker 2: I mean, the thing with from Ber throughout his whole

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Speaker 2: career has just been the inconsistency. There are games where,

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Speaker 2: you know, four batters in, You're like, oh, we got

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Speaker 2: you know, I see people on Twitter it's bad Fromber today.

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Speaker 2: And a lot of that is just his pitches moved

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Speaker 2: so much that it's hard for him to control. It's

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Speaker 2: hard for the batters to the hit. That's why you

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Speaker 2: get so many weird you know, blue hits and seeing

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Speaker 2: eye singles and stuff, and sometimes those can bunch together.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, he was getting hit hard in his

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Speaker 2: the game before he had a complete game loss, then

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Speaker 2: he had this start. So next game he's going seven

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Speaker 1: So Tyler, I don't know why this like, I'm not

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Speaker 2: the Fromber trade that you're you know again, it's not

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Speaker 2: like I have somebody that can replace him internally, you know,

434
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Speaker 2: you're you're, you're not going to be excited about a

435
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Speaker 2: playoff rotation that's Hunter Brown and whichever one of his

436
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Speaker 2: friends are available to pitch behind him. So yeah, no,

437
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Speaker 2: I'm I'm with you that that trade makes no sense

438
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Speaker 2: and and honestly it would not only just from a

439
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Speaker 2: numbers and analytics standpoint, it makes no sense. But like

440
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Speaker 2: you said, try walking into a clubhouse and telling jose

441
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Speaker 2: L two Va on July thirty, first, we've traded from

442
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Speaker 2: er Valdez when we're two games out of the al Wes, Like,

443
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Speaker 2: what are you talking about? Like you're you can't do that.

444
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Speaker 2: These are human beings, can't.

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Speaker 1: You can't do that to a clubhouse, especially when you've

446
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Speaker 1: already ignored his pleas to re sign Alex Bregman and

447
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Speaker 1: traded Kyle Tucker this offseason in a move that, while

448
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of the clubhouse understood it from

449
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Speaker 1: a business perspective, it still did not. It still was

450
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Speaker 1: not well received. I'd say they traded their best player,

451
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Speaker 1: and when they're support when they're supposed to be still

452
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Speaker 1: in contention, when the windows never supposed to close. According

453
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Speaker 1: to Jim Craine, they traded their best player and that

454
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Speaker 1: was a difficult thing for a lot of these guys to.

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Speaker 3: Grasp to comprehend, you know.

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Speaker 1: And also like you're not like I think everyone has

457
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Speaker 1: seen Cam Smith and they're like, oh my goodness, we

458
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Speaker 1: could get something like you're not getting a camp Smith

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Speaker 1: for two months if fromer bel Does, no.

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Speaker 2: L Tucker is better. And it was a whole year,

461
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Speaker 2: and it was a team with a men's need for

462
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Speaker 2: that particular player in that position. I mean, it was

463
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Speaker 2: all of those things all at once. And yeah, you're

464
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Speaker 2: not gonna you're not gonna just run into that again.

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna get a major league guy that can

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Speaker 1: help either, because inherently you are trading fromervel Does to

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Speaker 1: a contending National If let's let's play this hypothetical, the

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Speaker 1: Ashers are gonna trade Fromerveld as the deadline, even if

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Speaker 1: they're in it, they're trading him to a contending National

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Speaker 1: League team. That'd be really the only suitor that would

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Speaker 1: make sense for Dana Brown. To look at what contending

472
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Speaker 1: National League team is going to give you a meaningful

473
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Speaker 1: piece of their major league team in exchange for front

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Speaker 1: They're not going to weaken their major league team to

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Speaker 1: get fromer Valdez if they're in contention.

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Speaker 3: This is it makes no sense.

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Speaker 1: The only way it makes sense is if the Astras are,

478
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Speaker 1: like you said, ten out ten or more out of

479
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Speaker 1: the wild card and you know they have no choice

480
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Speaker 1: but sell and recoup some value, you know, Tyler, I

481
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Speaker 1: think it stems back from like fans Again, Josh has

482
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Speaker 1: said it on this pod, and I think we both agree, like,

483
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Speaker 1: this is a fan base that has gotten spoiled throughout

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Speaker 1: this Golden Era, and they look at teams as if

485
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Speaker 1: can this team win the World Series? And you look

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Speaker 1: at this team right now, and obviously a lot of

487
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Speaker 1: people are like, yeah, no, this team is probably not

488
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Speaker 1: the World Series favorite.

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Speaker 3: They probably can't.

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Speaker 1: This is not a team that you would pencil in

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Speaker 1: to the alcs of the World Series.

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Speaker 3: At this point.

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Speaker 1: I think what has been underestimate is how much of

494
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Speaker 1: a crapshoot the playoffs are, like once you get in,

495
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Speaker 1: like all it takes is getting Like look at the

496
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Speaker 1: Tigers last year, like the Tigers, sold at the deadline

497
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Speaker 1: and still they got unreal hot in September. They had

498
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Speaker 1: Trek Scoobel at the top of their rotation and they

499
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Speaker 1: have one of the best managers in baseball, and they

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Speaker 1: turned that into a run to the Alds. Look at

501
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Speaker 1: the Gnats a couple of years, like the Nats in

502
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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, they were nineteen and thirty one. It got

503
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Speaker 1: in the playoffs, snuck in. Look at the World Series

504
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Speaker 1: two years ago, d Backs, Rangers, two teams that's snuck

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Speaker 1: in as wild cards, got hot, went to the World Series.

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Speaker 1: This is all about getting in, get into the playoffs,

507
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Speaker 1: and then see what happens. It's a crap shoot after that.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of this is coming from people

509
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Speaker 1: that have watched this team and say, oh, like, this

510
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Speaker 1: team's not a World Series team, so we we just

511
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Speaker 1: got to tear it down and start over. Like, am

512
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Speaker 1: I misreading the situation here?

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Speaker 2: No, and think about the inverse of that. I mean,

514
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Speaker 2: for the last decade and a half, the Dodgers have been,

515
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 2: you know, created in a lab to dominate baseball, and

516
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Speaker 2: they've only won one real World Series since then. So

517
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Speaker 2: it's not even like if you have the best team

518
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Speaker 2: in the world. I mean, think about the twenty nineteen Astros.

519
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Speaker 2: This the best team the Ashers have ever had and

520
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 2: they didn't win the World Series. So you just have

521
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Speaker 2: to get there. And you know who helps you get

522
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 2: there is a guy who throws six innings every fifth day,

523
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 2: and you know can can really help your team. So

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Speaker 2: if you're trying to get to the playoffs and have success,

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Speaker 2: my suggestion is to have from ber Valdez on your team,

526
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Speaker 2: especially if you already have him. It's a lot easier

527
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Speaker 2: to do it that way.

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Speaker 1: Moving on from pitching, Tyler, do you want to guess

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Speaker 1: who has the highest ops among qualified Astros hitters?

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Speaker 2: I sure do. It's our buddy, guaranteed, Rake Jake Myers.

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Speaker 1: Jake Myers had the weekend of his life on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: He went four for four, two homers, a triple, and

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Speaker 1: a double, the first Astro to ever have that line.

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Speaker 1: Four for four, two triple, the two home runs, a

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Speaker 1: double and a triple. He drove in seven runs, which

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Speaker 1: was which is his career high. His thirteen total bases

537
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Speaker 1: matched an Astros club record. He did this all from

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Speaker 1: the nine hole, which is pretty remarkable. He drove in

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Speaker 1: seven runs on Saturday. Christian Walker has driven in nine

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Speaker 1: runs all season, which kind of accentuates just the problem

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Speaker 1: with this offense right now that the guys that they

542
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Speaker 1: need to produce are not producing.

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Speaker 3: But when that is not happening.

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Speaker 1: You need guys like Jake Myers to go crazy for

545
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Speaker 1: a week. You need Cam Smith to go crazy, which

546
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Speaker 1: he did. Cam Smith's gone crazy for a week. Like

547
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Speaker 1: these guys that you're not expecting offense from to have

548
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Speaker 1: to step up and step in. And you know, I

549
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Speaker 1: think Jake Myers, you know, he's earning. I mean, not

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Speaker 1: that we ever questioned that he was a center fielder,

551
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Speaker 1: especially with you know, with the two corner in fielders

552
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Speaker 1: next to him, but I mean, he's he's guaranteed himself

553
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Speaker 1: a longer runway. But we've seen this before, We've seen

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Speaker 1: Jake have success in the first half, Tiler, What does

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Speaker 1: he have to do to sustain it? What does he

556
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Speaker 1: have to do to not fall off like he did

557
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Speaker 1: last year?

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Speaker 2: Well, first off, it would be it's his swing decisions

559
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 2: that he's had lately. He's he's just been a lot

560
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Speaker 2: better at picking the pitches that he can do damage

561
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Speaker 2: on and It's interesting because you don't think of him

562
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 2: as a slugger, But I think he is best when

563
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 2: he goes into the box thinking of himself as a

564
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 2: slugger instead of as a leadoff guy. That's just like,

565
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to get the ball and play or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Like Jake, I don't need you to do that. I

567
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 2: need you to wait and buy the fifth pitch. One

568
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Speaker 2: of those is the one that you're looking for. And

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Speaker 2: if you strike out looking, you strike out look. I'd

570
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 2: much rather have that then you swing four times and

571
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Speaker 2: either make weak contact or strike out swinging. Like, pick

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Speaker 2: your pitch and wait on it. Because the offense isn't

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Speaker 2: relying on Jake Myers to generate the bulk of their runs.

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Speaker 2: But if you can set the table for the top

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Speaker 2: of the lineup, you know, or just drive them all

576
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Speaker 2: in yourself, which was the strategy that he tried this

577
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 2: weekend and it worked out great. But I mean we

578
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Speaker 2: talked about it at the beginning of the year. Look,

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Speaker 2: if Jake Myers can hit two forty, two fifty and

580
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Speaker 2: run into some pop every once in a while, he's

581
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Speaker 2: a great player. He's so good at defense that that's

582
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Speaker 2: all he needs. To do. And I mean, like I said,

583
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Speaker 2: to to maintain that success, it is you just have

584
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Speaker 2: to be patient. He's obviously strong enough to you know,

585
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 2: to turn on stuff, to hit it out of the park,

586
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 2: to rip doubles and triples and all of those things.

587
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Speaker 2: I need him to pick a pitch and wait on

588
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Speaker 2: it and not try to make contact with everything, and

589
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Speaker 2: just be patient up there because he's gonna get pitches

590
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Speaker 2: to hit. Because you know, by the time you get

591
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Speaker 2: to the back half of the lineup, it doesn't matter

592
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Speaker 2: if you know that it's a guy that can run

593
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Speaker 2: into it. Pitchers just naturally go like, all right, this

594
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: is the easy part. Let me start, you know, grooving

595
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 2: some stuff here, or you don't have the same level

596
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 2: of focus that you do as a guy in the

597
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 2: three hole. So he's just going to get better pitches

598
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 2: to hit, especially because they don't want to walk him

599
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 2: because he's so good on the base pass. So they're like,

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Speaker 2: let's make this guy beat us. And he has to

601
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Speaker 2: know that the way that you beat the pitchers is

602
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 2: you have to be patient. You have to wait and

603
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 2: make those swing decisions. And he's been doing a great

604
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Speaker 2: job of that.

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Speaker 1: Well, So here's the thing about Jake Myers. He gets

606
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Speaker 1: overshadowed by Al two vix Ali two, he does it

607
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: so much. But Jake Myers is probably the most ambush

608
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Speaker 1: hitter in this lineup. Yep, he was before his triple

609
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Speaker 1: on Saturday. He was over thirty five and two strike counts.

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Speaker 1: He's a career one to ten hitter when he gets

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Speaker 1: behind two on account you look at the numbers, he

612
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Speaker 1: is so much better when he either swings at the

613
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Speaker 1: first pitch of a plate appearance or puts the first

614
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Speaker 1: pitch of a play appearance and play pitchers know this.

615
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: Opponents can read Baseball Reference and Baseball Savant just like

616
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: we can. They have more proprietary information that tells him

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Speaker 1: more than that.

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Speaker 3: But I think Jake has to.

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Speaker 1: Strike a little bit better of a balance, Like you

620
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Speaker 1: can't be swinging at the first or second pitch every time,

621
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Speaker 1: because like we've talked about, like pitchers are going to adjust.

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Speaker 1: Pitchers know that he swings early in counts, but also

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Speaker 1: like he's got to be better against spin because when

624
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Speaker 1: he gets into o two counts, When you get into

625
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: two strike counts, what are put away pitches?

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Speaker 3: Normally it's breaking balls. It's awesome pitches that he has

627
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Speaker 3: not handled well.

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Speaker 1: He can he can handle fastballs, but the spin has

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Speaker 1: given him problems in his career. So I think it's

630
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Speaker 1: finding that balance of not everything has to be on

631
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Speaker 1: the first pitch. You don't have to be even though

632
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: stats and things tell you how well you do when

633
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: you swing at the first pitch, it doesn't It doesn't

634
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Speaker 1: have to be your whole aesthetic. It doesn't have to

635
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Speaker 1: be your whole you know, game plan, And you kind

636
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Speaker 1: of look at the quality of his contact. This year,

637
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Speaker 1: he's hitting the ball harder than he ever has. He's

638
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: got an average exit velo of ninety point nine miles

639
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: an hour, which is the hardest he's ever hit cumulatively

640
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Speaker 1: in his career. His ground ball rate is almost sixty percent,

641
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Speaker 1: which is high for him obviously, But at the same time,

642
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: he has the highest line drive rate of his career too, So.

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Speaker 2: He's not as launch angle's way down from from where

644
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 2: it's been, but like you said, it's been a lot

645
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Speaker 2: more line drives. Just kind of hard hit contact.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you'd and like they've got to keep him off

647
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Speaker 1: the Like I know he's fast, and I know he

648
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: can beat out some ground balls, but like even the

649
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Speaker 1: fastest dudes are gonna get thrown out on a random

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Speaker 1: roll over to shortstop, So they've got to find a

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Speaker 1: way to get.

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Speaker 3: Him off the ground a little bit more.

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Speaker 1: But he I think the fact that he's not hitting

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Speaker 1: many pop ups, he's not hitting a ton of just

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Speaker 1: like sky high fly balls, I think that is encouraging

656
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Speaker 1: and I think it certainly shows that that maybe this

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Speaker 1: is a little bit sustainable if he can again refine

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Speaker 1: the approach a little bit to not be this total

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Speaker 1: ambush like swing at the first thing you see because

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Speaker 1: that's what you know, that's what history tells you you

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Speaker 1: should do. But also like understanding that when he gets

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Speaker 1: into a two strike count, he's got a fight.

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Speaker 3: He's got a battle.

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Speaker 1: That's why I thought the triple on Saturday was such

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Speaker 1: a a good play and a good encouraging sign from

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Speaker 1: that was a ten pitch at bat fouled off I

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Speaker 1: believe five two strike pitches, got to a full count,

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Speaker 1: got a cookie over the middle, and hit it in

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Speaker 1: a left center field for a triple. So he was

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Speaker 1: a bright spot this weekend. Uh, not much else was offensively.

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Speaker 1: Jord and Alvarez did not play the last two games.

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Speaker 1: With what the Astros are describing his inflammation in his

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Speaker 1: right hand. They didn't send him for imaging because they

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Speaker 1: didn't think he needs it, which would suggest to me

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Speaker 1: that they don't think this is serious. But Alvarez has

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Speaker 1: had minor hand things before. Joe Spotta said he'd been

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Speaker 1: dealing with this for a good a little while and

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Speaker 1: you know, just tried to hit before the game on Saturday,

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Speaker 1: didn't feel good, and they just decided to got it

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Speaker 1: down then.

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Speaker 3: So they played the.

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Speaker 1: Last two games without their most feared hitter in the lineup.

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Speaker 1: Jose Al Tuvey continues to to really really scuffle since

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Speaker 1: going to the I mean really for a while now,

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Speaker 1: since that hot start, he has not looked himself just

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Speaker 1: you can tell he's in one of those ruts where

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Speaker 1: he's chasing hits, he's trying, he's swinging it a lot,

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Speaker 1: He's swinging at everything, striking out a lot. You know,

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Speaker 1: he gets in these ruts and this happens every year,

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Speaker 1: but you kind of have faith in his track record

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Speaker 1: that he'll find a way out of it. I think

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Speaker 1: one encouraging thing though, Tyler, was that yinor Diaz you

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Speaker 1: started to see some signs of life. He's ten for

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Speaker 1: his past twenty five with three extra base hits. You know,

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Speaker 1: really looks like he's getting on one of his runs.

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Speaker 1: That Again, it's gonna be a while for his season

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Speaker 1: stats normalized, but it was nice to see yinor Diaz

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Speaker 1: hit the ball hard, hit the ball up the middle

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Speaker 1: and get some get some rewards for it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean we know this, but he's so strong.

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Speaker 2: He he had one of the I forget if his

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Speaker 2: Friday or Saturday, but you know, he reached for a

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Speaker 2: ball off the plate away and to me it looked

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Speaker 2: like he had popped up to center field and it

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Speaker 2: ended up, you know, bouncing off the fence in center field.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he can, he can get into him, which

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Speaker 2: is why he swings at everything obviously. But yeah, certainly

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Speaker 2: looking good to have some some consistency there from from

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Speaker 2: Yroner to see that turning around. One thing about Jake

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Speaker 2: Myers too, I wanted to point out is that, you know,

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Speaker 2: his career average on breaking balls has hovered around one

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Speaker 2: sixty one seventy. He's hitting two or he's hitting three

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Speaker 2: ten on breaking balls this year, which is pretty crazy.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know if it's an approach change, or

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Speaker 2: he's seeing the ball better, or you know, maybe he's

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Speaker 2: looking at this Gauting report and knows maybe who are

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Speaker 2: going to try to get these over on me in

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Speaker 2: the first one or two pitches because they know I

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Speaker 2: sit fastball whatever it is. But he's making a ton

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Speaker 2: of contact on breaking balls, which is why he's been

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Speaker 2: a lot more dangerous than before. But yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 2: like you said's Diner's heating up. I need L two

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Speaker 2: A and Jordan to start hitting. It's about time, you know,

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Speaker 2: we've been here a month now. It needs to start

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Speaker 2: happening soon.

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Speaker 1: Josel Tuve went two for four in that fourteen to

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Speaker 1: three outlier game they had against the Angels on April eleventh.

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Speaker 1: In seventy five at bats since, he has fourteen hits,

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Speaker 1: ten of them have been singles. He has a five

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Speaker 1: oh one ops and seventeen strikeouts across those nineteen games.

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Speaker 1: So you know, look, obviously Christian Walker's getting He's wearing

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Speaker 1: a lot of the criticism Yiner Diaz was until this

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Speaker 1: week and a little bit. Jordan Alvarez certainly not immune

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Speaker 1: from it. But Josel Twove's got to got to produce

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Speaker 1: two and he He looked this weekend like he's in

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Speaker 1: one of those just funks where it looks like you

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Speaker 1: wonder how this guy is gonna have three thousand hits,

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Speaker 1: and then you know what automatically follows these, right, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna get He's gonna get like fifteen hits and eighteen

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Speaker 1: plate appearances and everything will be back to normal.

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Speaker 3: Because that's Hosee Twoba.

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Speaker 2: I have to imagine that pitch that he struck out

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Speaker 2: on yesterday, that was it probably would have been behind

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Speaker 2: a left handed hitter. It was so far outside that

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Speaker 2: that's got to be one of the furthest outside pitches

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Speaker 2: he's swung at in his career. It was, it was

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Speaker 2: way out there. So yeah, certainly certainly need to see

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Speaker 2: him step it up here.

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Speaker 1: Also, Zach Dezenzo, m h look at him. He hit

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Speaker 1: the hell out of that ball on Sunday, one hundred

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Speaker 1: eight off the bat, first homer.

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Speaker 3: One thing we did see this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Cam Smith sat on Saturday and Sunday in favor of

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Speaker 1: z Ac Dezenzo. I asked Joe a Spot if cam

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Speaker 1: Smith was healthy, if it was a situation where they

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Speaker 1: wanted to sit him in so like they did earlier

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Speaker 1: in the year, sit him to maybe work on some

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Speaker 1: stuff with the hitting coaches for a couple of days,

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Speaker 1: and he said, no, he's healthy. Just want to get

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Speaker 1: the Zenzo more at bats. And that's kind of how

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Speaker 1: it is. I mean, you know, Cam Smith wasn't. I mean,

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Speaker 1: when they put him on the roster, there were no

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Speaker 1: guarantees that he was going to play every day. There

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Speaker 1: were no guarantees that like they had to have him

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Speaker 1: in the lineup no matter what. You know, now that

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Speaker 1: they're in the season, they're going to play the nine

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Speaker 1: guys and give them the best chance to win. They're

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Speaker 1: going to play the nine guys that raise the floor

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Speaker 1: of this lineup, especially now as much as it can.

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Speaker 1: And right now, Zach Decenzo's that guy and Cam Smith isn't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, he did have quite the error in

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Speaker 2: in right field yesterday and that led to a lot

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Speaker 2: of runs. But yeah, he's been he's been hitting a

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Speaker 2: lot better. I was. I was very nervous later in

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Speaker 2: the game when there was a pop up to al

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Speaker 2: two van left field and you could see him with

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Speaker 2: the rain coming down. I could almost like hear his

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Speaker 2: inner monologue of like I've never done this before. I've

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Speaker 2: never been in outfield with the rain coming down on me.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's just kind of looking out there. But

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Speaker 2: you know, you can't hold one one off error against

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Speaker 2: somebody like that. I mean, Dezenzo is not nearly as

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Speaker 2: natural in the outfield as Cam Smith has been, but

784
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Speaker 2: he's been hitting and you gotta get him in the

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Speaker 2: lineup for sure. You know, Parades finally had a day off.

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Speaker 2: You wonder if you know, Dezenzo could maybe even get

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Speaker 2: some playing time at the corner spots too, because you

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Speaker 2: know he's obviously had those chances there before. You know,

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Speaker 2: maybe even have days where you could have Parades at second,

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Speaker 2: Dozenzo at third on on your flyball picture, days where

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Speaker 2: you're not too concerned about infield defense, just to get

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Speaker 2: another bat in the lineup. But yeah, I mean, the

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Speaker 2: role player guys had a good weekend, but you lose

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Speaker 2: a series because Fromer's not and you know he didn't

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Speaker 2: have his best start. Then your bullpen comes in that's

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Speaker 2: been really really good, but blue a lead yesterday, and

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Speaker 2: then your stars aren't hitting. But you know your your

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Speaker 2: role player guys are doing it relatively well.

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Speaker 1: Right now, real quick, can you name five Milwaukee Brewers

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Speaker 1: that are not Christian Yellick.

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Speaker 2: Uh Astro's legend. Daz Cameron I believe is on the team.

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Speaker 4: He is.

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Speaker 3: Wow, I didn't that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why I know that, but I do.

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Speaker 2: The other n L central catcher Contreras, Yes, I always

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Speaker 2: get him and uh, what's his name? From the Cardinals.

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Speaker 3: Will Wilson is on the Cardinals. William is on the Brewers.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so, uh, gosh, I don't even know. That's That's

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Speaker 2: probably about it. I don't know who else should I know?

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Speaker 2: On the Jackson Curio is really good. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Bryce Terrang also was a top prospect, very good player who.

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Speaker 3: Was a Kontana is on the Brewers.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: Interesting.

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Speaker 1: Freddy Peralta. Freddy Peralta is their current b War leader.

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Speaker 1: I have never heard of the three pitchers that the

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Speaker 1: Ashers are facing this weekend. This week, Yeah, this week

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Speaker 1: with Tobias Myers, Chad Patrick and Quinn Priester. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: they're all very nice young men.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: The Ashers will face them. Uh this week at what

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Speaker 1: used to be Miller Park. I think it's am fam Field.

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Speaker 1: American Family Field is what we're calling it. They had

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Speaker 1: the slide and left field that the mascot will slide

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Speaker 1: down if the Ashers give up any home runs. So again,

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Speaker 1: like we talked about with Josh, the Brewers are kind

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Speaker 1: of they're the NL raise. Like you said, you couldn't

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Speaker 1: really name a ton of them, but they just they

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Speaker 1: find a way. They're they're right at five hundred right now,

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Speaker 1: playing in a very competitive division. So the Astros, it's

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Speaker 1: not gonna be easy here. I mean, they just lost

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Speaker 1: a they just lost a series the worst team in

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Speaker 1: the American League, so they can come in and expect

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Speaker 1: nothing and anticipate nothing easy.

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Speaker 3: So we'll have.

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Speaker 1: I'll be in Milwaukee all three games, and we'll bring

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Speaker 1: you some analysis during and after this series with the Brewers,

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Speaker 1: before the Ashers start a homestand with the Reds and

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Speaker 1: the Royals. You can follow me on x if you

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