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Speaker 1: Bou Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: Alright, let's are live on a first Friday miracle edition

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Speaker 2: of Cleveland Browns Daily. I am merely bow. He is

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Speaker 2: the great ze. How you doing, buddy?

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Speaker 3: A little winded?

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Speaker 2: N gonna lie.

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Speaker 3: I was out there working area, running hills.

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Speaker 2: I just can't say you aren't. I can't say there

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Speaker 2: are hills here. We have.

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Speaker 3: I've seen a lot. It's a popular thing to do

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Speaker 3: right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to run those hills. Did you in preparation for

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Speaker 2: your event this summer when you get back in the

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Speaker 2: square circle?

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Speaker 3: Retired? Retired? Actually, I was texting with the great bros

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Speaker 3: Ski today and we were both lamenting the fact that

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Speaker 3: I will be out of town for his return to

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Speaker 3: AIW for their twentieth anniversary show because perhaps could have

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Speaker 3: twisted my rubber arm. Yeah, to do something with for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that feels like it's Look, I've seen

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Speaker 2: a lot of these guys retire through the years. Well,

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Speaker 2: how are you any different than Rick Flair?

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Speaker 3: I'll never retire, old yeller.

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Speaker 4: The retirement only leads to the bigger comeback.

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Speaker 2: That's right, that's right, a bigger pop when he comes back,

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Speaker 2: exactly because you don't see it coming.

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Speaker 3: You didn't think you were going to get it.

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Speaker 2: I it's cool today, a little bit cool, but Sonny,

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Speaker 2: so I'm taking it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then tomorrow what do we got? Maybe not

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Speaker 3: as good. Wait, it's my it's my me and the

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Speaker 3: kid's debut in the Golf League. Thursday night golf leak.

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Speaker 5: You're in this?

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Speaker 2: So I thought you could never do this.

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Speaker 3: Well, the things got switched around, and so now.

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Speaker 2: I can't because there was something that there was a

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Speaker 2: day that they would do it, and you were unavailable

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Speaker 2: at those days.

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Speaker 3: Always there was always a Thursday golf leak, and always

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Speaker 3: this time in the year had to conserves. But then

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Speaker 3: it was like, hey, why don't we just keep the

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Speaker 3: same thing year round. Sure, so thursdays are out, but

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Speaker 3: I don't know if we're going to get it in.

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow is eighty one, but ninety one percent rain thunderstorms.

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Speaker 2: Eighty one today, the high is fifty three.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then Friday and then Saturday or me and

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Speaker 3: Simsay in our season long tournament. I don't think we're

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Speaker 3: gonna get that round in Saturday. Looks rather bleak, it does.

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Speaker 2: That's Laxfest out in the Hudson and my wife is

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Speaker 2: on the board of that, and so that's a big,

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Speaker 2: big deal for.

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Speaker 3: Uh and you guys roll rain or shine.

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Speaker 2: Rain or shine, but no lightning. Lightning is shut down,

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Speaker 2: but the rest you can do. So if it's rain

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Speaker 2: and cold, you just kind of deal with it. Well

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Speaker 2: that eighty eight with the.

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Speaker 4: Missus being a board member and well, I don't it's

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Speaker 4: on the board for the lax Fest. But how does

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Speaker 4: that impact your world and your duties for the weekend,

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Speaker 4: Because yeah, I mean you're you're kind of like you're

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Speaker 4: the first gentleman.

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Speaker 2: I'm the first gentleman. Yeah, it's a I basically become

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Speaker 2: into I turn into like a professional child uber driver

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Speaker 2: and I just clearly, you know, because they'll at the

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Speaker 2: Boys Love games all weekend, so they'll be you know,

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Speaker 2: we'll be in the mix all weekend. It's kind of

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Speaker 2: the way that it goes. But it's it's huge. I

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Speaker 2: think it's the biggest, biggest Twoday lacrosse tournament in the

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Speaker 2: state of Ohio. Bobby Card will probably be there, be

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Speaker 2: there for tail game. Oh yeah, yeah, he'll be in

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Speaker 2: the mix. Yeah, the whole, the whole, all north. I mean,

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Speaker 2: everyone's coming. It's gonna it's wild, be fun weekend. But

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Speaker 2: if the weather's tough, not great. Yeah, not great on

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Speaker 2: in the glow of Florida tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, tomorrow, Yeah, he's out seven am, Floyd.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you, is what age do you think

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Speaker 2: you stop being responsible for your children's shortcomings and lawlessness?

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Speaker 3: Tell we're going to get back this, which is good.

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Speaker 2: That's why I want to add, That's why I'm bringing

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Speaker 2: it up. So I'm curious, without giving the reference point,

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Speaker 2: what age do you think you cease being responsible for

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Speaker 2: their actions? Eighteen?

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Speaker 3: I would say if they go to college. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: think like after their sophomore year, they've had two years

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Speaker 3: I think it probably does add up with this guy,

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Speaker 2: Little that would be he'd be through that, he'd be

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Speaker 3: Because then you have it's one year on your own.

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Speaker 3: I don't think is really enough. Now you're two years

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Speaker 3: on your own. I think you're like you figured out

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Speaker 3: how you want to navigate certain things. Not saying that

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Speaker 3: you're a fully formed adult. I'd say that really probably

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Speaker 3: doesn't have to your late twenties thirties that you really

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Speaker 3: you really have a handle on things. But I think

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Speaker 3: at that point, yeah, when you've been on your own

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Speaker 2: Years relative I mean college, you're on your own.

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Speaker 3: You're on your own sort of, you're on your own.

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 3: Though ARTI buckets for sure, I didn't go to classify Arty.

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Speaker 2: Buckets on a Thursday. Calls you from from the commodoors

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Speaker 2: in vand Vanderbilt just says dad, I can you get

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Speaker 2: can you help me with this? Absolutely, I'll be right there,

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Speaker 2: of course, So you're still there's a difference, but I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: and that wouldn't be the case at thirty two or

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Speaker 2: even twenty seven. It wouldn't be like at that point

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Speaker 3: Twenty six is when they, like I think, have to

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Speaker 3: come off your insurance and all of that. So like

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Speaker 3: that's one, but I think we're talking about two different things,

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Speaker 3: like would I still be there to.

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Speaker 2: You'll be there for the rest of the But like,

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Speaker 2: let's say she gets an a fender bender, Dad, can

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Speaker 2: you help me with this? Yeah, of course, what do

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Speaker 2: you need, Let's sort it out.

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Speaker 3: Let's well, that's.

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Speaker 4: Gonna be I think that's different. But I don't think

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Speaker 4: that I'm talking from me.

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Speaker 2: When did you stop go or Yeah, when did you

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Speaker 2: stop like calling like if if you needed something or

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Speaker 2: if something happened, if you had an accident or something.

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Speaker 2: At what age did you stop like calling your parents

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Speaker 2: for advice or guidance or help.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, probably sometime after college.

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Speaker 2: To me, it felt like like twenty five, Okay, like

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Speaker 2: it felt like which is like if something were to

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Speaker 3: I'm on that level one hundred percent. I'm saying more

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Speaker 3: for like at what point, like, are you kind of

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Speaker 3: something stupid Like to me, I would have a lot

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Speaker 3: more sympathy for somebody who's a freshman in college because

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Speaker 3: they're just like now they're on their own for the

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Speaker 3: first time. Maybe not how to handle it, but if

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Speaker 3: you've already, if you're a junior in college by that point,

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Speaker 3: you should like know what to know how to navigate. Okay,

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Speaker 3: And what is it.

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Speaker 2: I think you think. I think Gibbey's right. Legally he

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Speaker 2: is eighteen. Legally, you wash your hands of it.

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Speaker 4: I had told both my girls, call your uncles. I

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Speaker 4: will not bail you out till Monday. Till monday, if

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Speaker 2: So that's the uh that I think is the legal sense.

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Speaker 2: I tend to think it's probably you're always going to

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Speaker 2: be responsible for him. They're always going to be a

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Speaker 2: reflection of you. That is the rest of your life.

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Speaker 2: That's what you sign up for as a parent. But

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Speaker 2: legally responsible for them, which is what makes this all

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Speaker 2: so interesting. So this happened today. The Atlanta Falcons were

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Speaker 2: fined a quarter million dollars, which is in the seat cushions,

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Speaker 2: but nevertheless a substantial fine for the franchise. This is

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Speaker 2: the one that got me though. Defensive coordinator Jeff Olbrook

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Speaker 2: was fined one hundred thousand dollars for the leak of

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Speaker 2: Schadour's telephone one that his son took advantage of from

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Speaker 2: the league. The fines were for family to prevent the

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Speaker 2: disclosure of confidential information distribute to the club in advance

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Speaker 2: of the NFL Draft. The Falcons said the Oldbrook family

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Speaker 2: is working with the organization to participate in community service

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Speaker 2: initiative in relation to last week's manner, don't I don't

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Speaker 2: really know. This is a twenty one year old man

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Speaker 2: who did this. Okay, he's a college kid, So I

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Speaker 2: don't know that that gives you any more grace. I

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Speaker 2: think less.

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Speaker 3: He has no grace. The fact that his dad is

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Speaker 3: going to fork out one hundred grand for this, there

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Speaker 2: Hell to pay. This is Tony Strano going into the

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Speaker 2: of the pathfinder and saying, AJ, you're driving without a window,

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Speaker 2: enjoy it. Be there at seven am to work construction. Oh, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's what this is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how does a kid even he's working this off

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 2: Here, good luck? Like here's the other thing, Like, this

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Speaker 2: isn't college football where coordinators are paid four million dollars

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Speaker 2: or three million dollars, And even if it were one

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Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars, is a you're feeling it.

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Speaker 3: Let's just say he makes some of your feel dollars. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: So let's say takes home five point fifty to six hundred.

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Speaker 3: Sure that's twenty percent haircut?

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Speaker 2: Brother, Yeah, brother, it is yep. Yeah, it's a mouse

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Speaker 2: or penalty because of your bozo. So I said this yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Had he raise a little jerk? How do you make that?

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Speaker 2: How do you.

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Speaker 3: I may be more sympathetic to the father in this

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Speaker 3: because than you are, but I think probably it has

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Speaker 3: does for a living that it is very hard to

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Speaker 3: be as present, probably as you want to be in

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Speaker 3: this industry.

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Speaker 2: We all make choices, we all.

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Speaker 3: Make choices, for sure, but I don't know that he

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Speaker 3: necessarily and again I'm not going to get into that.

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Speaker 3: I will say this kid obviously thinks that he is

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Speaker 3: above a lot of things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that he's not.

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Speaker 3: But here's the thing that bothers me the most about it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: is the kid is the one. Not that the NFL

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Speaker 3: can find the kid.

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Speaker 2: Why not.

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Speaker 3: But the kid committed this, yes violation, that's a rudibus

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Speaker 3: did this so like, but it's not a sixteen year old,

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. I think the kid should be

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Speaker 3: The fact that his dad has to pay one hundred

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Speaker 2: That's a salary in their building.

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Speaker 3: That's a high salary in their building. Yeah, there aren't

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Speaker 2: Right, And now that's out the window top ten because

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Speaker 3: I don't like the kids. It feels like he's getting

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Speaker 2: I don't know how the kid like. Yeah, I agree,

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Speaker 3: Like what would you do for real? Though? Like what

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Speaker 3: I'm being I was trying, I garner wages until it's

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Speaker 2: Your problem my mine. Look, at first of all, NBC

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Speaker 2: And if you have to be, it's such a failure

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Speaker 3: Where's that kid? How come that kid's not in trouble

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Speaker 2: Is, he's sitting there like, where's your intelligent lack of

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Speaker 3: Right, and video it and allow that to get out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an intelligence failure.

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Speaker 3: Massive, and it's just it's gross. I do think it's

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Speaker 3: I think it is ridiculous that his father has to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's his device. You're responsible for the device. Yeah

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Speaker 3: Okay, would you expect that your son is going to

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Speaker 2: But I hope that I'm raising my son right to

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Speaker 2: You don't. I think it's dad like the privilege of

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Speaker 2: they don't know what's what. It's hard to tell, so

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Speaker 2: for information is YouTube. Yep, they go to YouTube, and

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Speaker 2: then they get fed idiots on YouTube who have no

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Speaker 2: for me, huge, good or bad. It's it's terrifying that

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Speaker 2: You're with me. It's wild and yeah, it's just I

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Speaker 2: don't know what the right pound of flesh is on this.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 3: To me, the fact that the pound of flesh that

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Speaker 2: They must have felt like punishing the dad punishes the kid, clearly.

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Speaker 2: I mean they felt like, yes, punishing the dad punishes

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Speaker 4: And that means going forward, we're tightening up who gets

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Speaker 2: I did see that, and then so apparently it just

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Speaker 3: Abdul Carter got called just came out.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's a ton of them that did our guide. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: how did that? So they the one thing I heard

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Speaker 2: you have another half dozen guys who got pranked. So

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Speaker 4: So here, I think the one that Mason Graham I

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Speaker 4: they all have your number? Probably most? That's what I'm like, So.

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Speaker 2: Like how many people at a highest state of Jeremi

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Speaker 4: So being able to prank it could be coming from

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Speaker 2: It could just be Yeah, that's true on a lot

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Speaker 4: Unless the NFL is sending you a specific bat phone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right.

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Speaker 4: And and they're the only ones that have that number.

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Speaker 4: I just that's what That's what makes me wonder, you know,

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Speaker 2: You might be onto something on the because you think

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Speaker 4: Two thousand and three since the year two thousand.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, probably when you decided we were when I moved there.

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Speaker 3: Maybe's two thousand and one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I moved back home. I got mine when

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Speaker 2: I moved to Columbus. So it's still it's a six

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Speaker 2: one four, And I was I don't even think of it,

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Speaker 2: no idea. I don't think there's anything to it. I

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Speaker 2: like I get nothing, like whatever comes of this, I

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Speaker 2: changed his number in advance? And that's how you knew

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Speaker 2: this was an NFL league? Yep, was that side of it?

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Speaker 2: I don't know what the right pound of flesh is.

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Speaker 2: I don't have an answer for you on what it

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Speaker 2: It's undergrand post tax brother, Yeah, yep, cash as it were.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I really don't.

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Speaker 3: It to me, really feels like it's a big number. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you've got I would garnish wages like this

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Speaker 3: Like I'm gonna take twenty percent of whatever you get

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Speaker 2: Yep, this is your debt to me. To me, and

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Speaker 2: I want restitution on this.

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Speaker 3: And you know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna factor

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Speaker 3: that dollar's not the same. That word today not worth

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Speaker 3: this now. No, I don't know if you've noticed that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a really really interesting story to say the

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Speaker 3: It's an awful story all around. And I don't know.

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Speaker 2: The answer to what is the right way to do it.

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Speaker 2: I don't have one. It's not like I came in

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Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. I don't know what

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Speaker 3: I honestly think they should have you want to really

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Speaker 2: I like that, Well, they gave their first the first

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Speaker 4: Look at the list of fines that they've gotten over

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you put it like they got a fifth round

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Speaker 3: a grand total sum of three hundred and fifty thousand.

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Speaker 3: I bet there's a world in which the Falcons say,

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Speaker 3: don't feel like is really that gonna dissuade an organization

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Speaker 3: I'm probably gonna be losing my job.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 3: And I think that it would be a little bit more, uh,

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Speaker 3: dial what's going on here?

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Speaker 2: A lot of bags, a lot of bags of that.

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Speaker 2: This This is a lot of people coming out of

439
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Speaker 2: the back with these white, white satchels.

440
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Speaker 3: Who's who's ushering them around?

441
00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,680
Speaker 2: I know who's in charge of the ushering.

442
00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 3: A think I think I did I see is that Kosh.

443
00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:40,680
Speaker 2: Might have been him in the mix in there?

444
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,240
Speaker 4: I don't know what is it the summers?

445
00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,760
Speaker 2: I don't think big big bags of that.

446
00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:49,560
Speaker 3: No speaking begs, we got a back?

447
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:55,160
Speaker 2: What do we got? Should open it? Do we know you?

448
00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:56,160
Speaker 6: Oh?

449
00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,159
Speaker 2: I see it? I just saw a color from.

450
00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:58,840
Speaker 3: Across the pond.

451
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 2: Oh by g man favorite team? Oh my god, how

452
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:11,440
Speaker 2: gorgeous is that blue? Come on? Oh baby, oh that

453
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 2: is gorgeous. Uh g man, some people call it the

454
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:22,640
Speaker 2: People's team gorgeous man city quarter zips from across the pond?

455
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:29,399
Speaker 2: How beautiful is that baby blue? We come only gorgeous, gorgeous?

456
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Speaker 3: Have what do we have here?

457
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 2: Those are lovely? Who sent these to us? Do we

458
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Speaker 2: have the Do you have the slip so we can

459
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,440
Speaker 2: give you proper thanks to those.

460
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Speaker 3: That were Do you like this quarter zip?

461
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Speaker 2: What are your site? Well? Well we can do it

462
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 2: all the largest.

463
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Speaker 3: I kind of like this one here. This kind of

464
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,639
Speaker 3: looks has a fit of like it's almost like is

465
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Speaker 3: it like a kit?

466
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Speaker 2: Oh boy? Those are lovely, lovely, beautiful, beautiful. How do

467
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Speaker 2: we get proper thanks? We got to get proper thanks.

468
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Speaker 4: No, no, dude, No, no, it's on the ground, it's

469
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Speaker 4: next to you on the floor.

470
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah, let's get a proper, proper thank you. Yeah,

471
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Speaker 2: don't hurt yoursel.

472
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:21,679
Speaker 3: Thank you Uncle Bo, doctor Z, Gibby and the boys.

473
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Speaker 3: Let's go hope these quarters have just find you well.

474
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,680
Speaker 3: Me and my son are massive Browns fans and also

475
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Speaker 3: city season ticket holders, so just want to add these

476
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Speaker 3: are the collection. Also, thank you guys for a great

477
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,159
Speaker 3: show keeping a saint during the off season. Hopefully we'll

478
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,360
Speaker 3: catch you in London and you'll never know. If the if,

479
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 3: the fixture, if the future, sorry fall right, you could

480
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 3: catch a city game, the.

481
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Speaker 2: Futures, the futures, yeah, the futures, the.

482
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,719
Speaker 3: Futures fall right, Yeah, you catch a city game. All

483
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 3: sort of tickets, no problem, all the best and go

484
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Speaker 3: Browns and up the blues at Brown's Club twenty nine.

485
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Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you, thank you. I think it's seren

486
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Speaker 3: is the first name.

487
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 2: What's the name of great job? I I yeah, this

488
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 2: is a fantastic job. Eagerly anticipating where is the stadium

489
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 2: we're playing. What's the name of the stadium we're playing it?

490
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Speaker 4: Tottenham tott number Yeah, North London, for the.

491
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 2: It's two hundred miles from from there to Manchester was

492
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:21,120
Speaker 2: not very far. Those are gorgeous. What a job, that's

493
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Speaker 2: very it's very kind, very kind. Over the box of that,

494
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 2: that's all nice.

495
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 3: Some fish and chips on us. Well, yeah, in jolly

496
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Speaker 3: old England's.

497
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Speaker 2: It's a very good job. So thank you so much

498
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 2: for that. The uh the wow, Shoudre sentter. Speaking of Shudure,

499
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 2: he had the third best selling jersey among twenty twenty

500
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Speaker 2: five draftees, behind Travis Hunter and Cam Morton.

501
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Speaker 4: I'm like, he doesn't have a number yet, but maybe

502
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 4: a pre order.

503
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 3: They gave twelve, Cam word one. Most of the rookies

504
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 3: have one. I think Sudor got double zero at least

505
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 3: in the graphic that they showed. That's what it was.

506
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 3: So I think it's just a pre order.

507
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 2: Pre order and then you'll see him. They go, yeah,

508
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 2: what numbers are available for us, and he would be

509
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 2: down the pecking order on picking them. One and two

510
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 2: are both available. Eight is currently available because Elijah at

511
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 2: this point is not back. Yep, so single digit wise

512
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 2: one too. Eight. I don't know.

513
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 4: She was a big believer in giving the Rooks single digits. Well,

514
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 4: maybe you have to earn those.

515
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 2: I mean, I know that he did that in previous

516
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 2: years because we even had some guys who were that delp.

517
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 2: It had to wait before he could move in. I

518
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 2: think to a single.

519
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 3: Think he might be a little more lenient on it now.

520
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:40,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's so one and two are available, five is available,

521
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 2: eight is available. I was Jamis yeap, twelve is available,

522
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 2: fourteen is retired, sixteen seventeen are available. So those are

523
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 2: your VISs.

524
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 3: I don't think if you're Dylan Gabriel or if you

525
00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 3: are Shador Sanders are don't think you go wrong with

526
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,120
Speaker 3: sixteen as a quarterback.

527
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 2: Just saying Dylan O. Willer wear eight because he wore

528
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 2: that at Oregon and that was his college number. So

529
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 2: that would be a win.

530
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 3: And Schador could wear two.

531
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Speaker 2: He could. But my hunch is that if it is

532
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 2: available to a rookie, quinch On would get quench On.

533
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 3: I think wanted five.

534
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 2: Five, Okay, five is available? Yeah? Five is think he

535
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 2: wanted five. One he wore four at Ole miss He

536
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 2: wore two at Ohio State and then five backup paste

537
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:27,360
Speaker 2: of war number two.

538
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 4: Maybe we go a different number.

539
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 3: Two for a running back would be.

540
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 2: Fine, Yeah, yeah, how many guys? I mean, so couch

541
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 2: war two, Manzelle War two. Yeah, yeah, couch two is

542
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 2: always one that people want. I bet, I bet some

543
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 2: of our vets want to move into two. I'm not

544
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 2: sure who it would be. And then I don't know,

545
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,199
Speaker 2: like priority wise, how do you decide? It's so in

546
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 2: college you can always tell what they think of a

547
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 2: prospect based on the number. They gave him. Yes, it's available.

548
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 3: He asked him about that, and I said, that's not

549
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 3: Ceciliano said something like, you know, that's not the most

550
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 3: popular number, and he said, well, that's because nobody's worn

551
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 3: it well enough yet. Good for him, so maybe he's

552
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 3: gonna roll with it. I think we saw Fannin was

553
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 3: down there and he liked eighty eight.

554
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 2: He also asked, yeah, forty four is by Anthony Kendall's

555
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 2: wearing it right now. Eighty eight would look great.

556
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 3: Eighty it's a great number. Yeah, Tony Gonzalez, that's a

557
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 3: good tight end number.

558
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wonder if there will.

559
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Speaker 5: Be a.

560
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,239
Speaker 3: Here's my word of caution to you guys with these

561
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Speaker 3: rookie numbers. Unless they get one that is clearly like

562
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Speaker 3: they're locked into it and they're excited about it.

563
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 2: Wait, oh, wait till the end because I remember being

564
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 2: under cuts. Yeah, I remember being in the Dix and

565
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 2: they were selling the Tilman. I think he was in

566
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 2: eighty nine. Yeah to begin with, yep, and they had

567
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 2: like Cedric Tillman eighty nine's and I'm nineteen. He's not

568
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 2: gonna wear that.

569
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Speaker 3: Chubb was wearing twenty seven until he got to twenty fi.

570
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 4: The original number were just like, it's different.

571
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 3: Was j Oka before he became six?

572
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 2: Well he actually twenty or twenty eight for a year,

573
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 2: for one year or two, but at least a year

574
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 2: because NBC got one.

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00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 3: You're to delf it was twenty two. But a lot

576
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 3: of guys change as the like at the cutdown'll change

577
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 3: at the cutdown, So just be be wary of that

578
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 3: unless it's pretty it's clear. As I said that they

579
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 3: got a number that they're going to be pumped with.

580
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 2: Is fifteen available? Have we given Joe his number yet?

581
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:27,479
Speaker 3: That would be flacky?

582
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 2: Oh flac oh, yeah, he isn't fifteen. I was curious

583
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 2: he was already on the roster as fifteen. Well, what's pickett?

584
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 2: Pickett is not does not have one yet?

585
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 3: He wore he were eight.

586
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 2: He wore eight, So I wonder why he doesn't have

587
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:41,719
Speaker 2: a number yet.

588
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 3: Some places have like put out all their numbers.

589
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of teams have.

590
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, we have not yet.

591
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,959
Speaker 2: No, we have not. All Right, there you go. Those

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Speaker 2: One hundred of you versus a silver back? Who you got?

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00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 5: Oh? No, can you guys hear man?

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00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 2: Yeah? We got we got got you, now, we got you?

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00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 2: Now I got the.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, baby, your question cut out? Would you mind repeating that?

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00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 2: Please? One hundred men? Well, hold on, one hundred men

615
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 2: versus a silverback gorilla to the death, and then if

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00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 2: you want the hundred men to be you, elite athlete,

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00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 2: then that's fine. Who you got?

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Speaker 5: Are there any tools or weapons involved?

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Speaker 2: No weapons, none, bare hands.

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Speaker 5: I got the silverback grilla. I think it'll end in

621
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Speaker 5: a tie. To be totally honest, I'm not sure that

622
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 5: anybody could get to kill him. And I'm not sure. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I don't really know like what you could do even

624
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 5: with one hundred men, like other than just allowing maybe

625
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 5: seventy five of them to suffocate by just all I

626
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 5: wants piling on top and just creating a huge man

627
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 5: pile on top of the gorilla.

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00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:32,719
Speaker 3: That's part of it.

629
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 5: But I think I could kill him by myself, fair handed.

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00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 2: Hoff. Yeah, the strategy is a part of it. The

631
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 2: coward of man is a part of.

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00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 3: An how too. That's why I instituted this rule hof

633
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 3: that you only can't survive if the gorilla is dead.

634
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 3: So if you tried, if you're a deserter or a fleer,

635
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 3: shot on site, so you must participate. There is no cowardice.

636
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 3: So my strategy yesterday I had six teams of ten

637
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 3: and then forty who are just fill in for the

638
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 3: dead or just be a part of the dog pile

639
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 3: once you got him off of his vertical base, one

640
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 3: for the left leg, one for the left arm, one

641
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 3: for the right leg, one for the right arm. Another

642
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 3: ten people, which is twenty hands, one hundred fingers who sold.

643
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 2: Job is to.

644
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 3: Gouge the eyes of the gorilla out, because if I

645
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 3: think we can gouge his eyes out, we got a

646
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 3: shot or at least render them useless. And then the

647
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 3: others are to pummel his nether regions into submission to

648
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 3: distract him line enough that we can get him off

649
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 3: a vertical base and pile on. I think we can win.

650
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 5: I think that's a solid strategy. But I think what

651
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 5: you're not understanding is that I think the gorilla goes

652
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 5: Tasmanian devil and just start spinning with like spinning fists,

653
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,479
Speaker 5: a whirling dervish style as you get close to him.

654
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 5: So I don't even know how you'd be able to

655
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 5: keep him down, because even if you had five guys

656
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 5: jump on an arm at a time, all he has

657
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 5: to do is start spinning or ripping that arm out.

658
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 5: And I don't think anybody could even five people, like,

659
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 5: there's just not enough service area for all five to

660
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 5: be able to grab them and combine their forces.

661
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 3: Here's the other thing I was thinking too, because I

662
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 3: read about so the average guerrilla is like four hundred

663
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 3: to five hundred pounds, Yeah, which is a lot. Yeah,

664
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Speaker 3: But don't you think half, Like think about what you're

665
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 3: able to do dealing with three hundred pounds men if

666
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 3: you had, like if you kind of just all bull

667
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 3: rush them some of your way. But don't you think

668
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 3: like you could if people rush them all at once,

669
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 3: like you could at least pop them off of his

670
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 3: off of the don't think off the ground.

671
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 2: I don't think you're gonna I think Hoff's point on

672
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 2: surface area is the problem. There's not enough of one

673
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: hundred of you to get a hold of to move

674
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 2: him now. But I think two.

675
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 3: I think the Hoff and Joel Batonio, if they were

676
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 3: to get close, could get him off of his vertical.

677
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 2: But well, the one thing there you said is if

678
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 2: they were to get close.

679
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 3: Off, well, I think they would get close yea, because

680
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 3: we'd have sacrificial lands. We're a part of this. Meanwhile,

681
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 3: we're gonna take.

682
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, even if you got him on the ground, though,

683
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 5: like what are you gonna do? Then you're gonna try

684
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 5: to pile on top of them. But like you get

685
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 5: a big heavyweight wrestler in the ground, they can squirm

686
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 5: and worm and contort their body to get out of

687
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 5: there pretty easily and then smash most of you that

688
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 5: are close to him, like very quickly, I would think. So,

689
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 5: I just don't know even if you're able to get

690
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 5: him on the ground, because they're used to running on

691
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 5: their hands and their feet. It's not like a human

692
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 5: where you get him on the ground and they're a

693
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 5: little bit more worthless. It reminds me of the conversation

694
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 5: I had surprisingly when I was in Germany. We had

695
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 5: an ongoing discussion during the season. Because my teammates are

696
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 5: my players, they learned that I owned a farm and

697
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 5: had beef cattle over in Germany. And our left guard,

698
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 5: Leander Vegan is actually in the IPP program now for

699
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 5: the NFL down in Florida. Nice he claimed that he

700
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 5: thought he could kill a full grown cow with his

701
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 5: bare hands, and so we have this ongoing discussion about

702
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 5: how you would do it, and like, even if you

703
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 5: could get close, what would you do? And he said

704
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 5: he would give him the head he move, and then

705
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 5: he would kick him in the front leg to try

706
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 5: to break a leg, and then he would run around

707
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 5: and try to give him as you move again and

708
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 5: kick the other leg disable him. And then he thought

709
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 5: he'd be able to like lay on his disabled chest

710
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 5: to get all the air out of his chest and

711
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 5: then he'd eventually suffocate. But we said, you're crazy, man.

712
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 5: You've never been near Kyle. They are so much more

713
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 5: powerful and like their leg bones are basically solid and

714
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,919
Speaker 5: the size of your waist. There's this zero percent chance

715
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 5: you could break their leg.

716
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 2: There's no chance. There's no chance, no no, no, chan

717
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 2: I mean huff. When do you do you guys brand

718
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 2: in Wisconsin? Do you guys brand or do they or

719
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 2: do you do something else? Do you not have to

720
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 2: maybe yeah.

721
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 5: We're going to now you know, we have such a

722
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 5: small herd it didn't matter. But now we've bought all

723
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 5: this really super high powered, expensive genetics for these wagu

724
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 5: and some of ours that were like damn, people are

725
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 5: gonna come still to this. So yeah, yeah, so now

726
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 5: we're making a brand.

727
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 2: Okay, you've been to a branding though before, right, yeah, Okay,

728
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 2: this is for the people who haven't like two grown,

729
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 2: pretty strong men to hold down a calf, like a

730
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 2: little baby calf. Yeah. In one place, well, they're branded

731
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 2: hard and neutered and everything else they're squirmy, like you

732
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 2: just don't have any idea how strong animals are. It's

733
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 2: just a totally another level of strength that.

734
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 3: You just I will say this as a man who

735
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 3: has swam with both the dolphin and the manatee. The

736
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 3: power the dolphin is basically like a giant muscle. The

737
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 3: powers and speed that it is able to generate is

738
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 3: hard to fathom when you feel it push you, like

739
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 3: as though and I two hundred and twenty five pounds. Yea,

740
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 3: it was able to propel me through the water as

741
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 3: though I was weightless.

742
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 2: That's right, That's what I'm saying.

743
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 3: And it's a dolphin, a dolphin man.

744
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. About King of the Jungle.

745
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 3: No, and the manatee, which is you know, just like

746
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 3: a giant walrus.

747
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:57,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

748
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:02,439
Speaker 3: I like those guys, big big, very formidable, very very kind.

749
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 2: I also did like haff by the way. I liked

750
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 2: you on It was great to see you on at

751
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 2: the Kelsey Boys. You had Kelsey DP playing all the hits.

752
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,720
Speaker 2: But I thought it was funny. They had a question

753
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 2: from an email or or maybe it was a caller

754
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 2: about if you could have a liquid shot out of

755
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 2: every one of your fingers, And I love how you

756
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 2: went very You went diesel. Two of them were diesel

757
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: fuel and milk. I thought that was great. I love

758
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 2: that from the bottom line perspective. Off, that's thinking big picture, buddy, did.

759
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 5: We're spending a lot of money on whole milk here

760
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 5: in the in the family household with four kids that

761
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 5: are between the ages of twelve and six. I mean,

762
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,439
Speaker 5: we're gonna do two gallons a day right now. God

763
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 5: forbid when we get them in high school, how much

764
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 5: milk we're gonna go through. It's gonna be disgusting.

765
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 2: Hey, what did you look? We drafted? We haven't talked

766
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 2: of you, since what did you make of the hall

767
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: that that Andrew Barry, Kevin's fanacy, Paul deepdest in the

768
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 2: organization put together.

769
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 5: So nobody's surprised. They did a great job sticking to

770
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 5: the plan. I thought they had a really, really solid draft.

771
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 5: It was really important for them to be able to

772
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 5: add draft picks for next year, right because it's going

773
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 5: to be supposed to at our quarterback draft, and you

774
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 5: want to have those resources in case you identify a

775
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 5: guy that's in the draft that you want to go

776
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 5: up and make your franchise guy, assuming they don't find

777
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 5: one in this draft. With you know, the four quarterbacks

778
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 5: they have on the roster that all have a chance

779
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 5: to start and you know prove obviously Flacco's getting the

780
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 5: end of his career, but the other three guys, you

781
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 5: never know where things are going to go there. So

782
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,280
Speaker 5: you've set yourself up for next year, which was huge.

783
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 5: You've addressed your number one need on the defensive line,

784
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 5: putting a guy next Miles Garrett for hopefully the rest

785
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 5: of Miles Garrett's career that can be you know, a

786
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 5: shop wrecker as a defensive tackle who, in my opinion,

787
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 5: has a big upside. Actually, one of the guys that

788
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 5: I work out with Monday, Wednesday, Friday out here in Madison,

789
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 5: his son's a string coach at Michigan. So I was

790
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 5: asking him, you know what does he think about Mason

791
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 5: and stuff? And he's like, Oh, everybody loves this guy.

792
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 5: He's all some you know, great locker room guy, works

793
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 5: his butt off and everything, but he goes, you know what,

794
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 5: he just hasn't really embraced like being a psycho in

795
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 5: the weight room. Yet He's like, that's the big area

796
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 5: where he can improve. And I go perfect because you know,

797
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 5: you think about speed and quickness and all these other things,

798
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 5: like you can't really make big differences in games and that,

799
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 5: like especially once you become an NFL player as like

800
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 5: a twenty one and twenty two year old adult. But

801
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 5: the weight room, like that is the easiest thing to

802
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 5: be able to add strength and muscle, especially when you

803
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 5: get to the NFL because you have more resources, but

804
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 5: also you have more time college. You gotta go to school.

805
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 5: They tell you got to go to the varsity cheerleading thing,

806
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 5: you gotta go to the sorority parties, you got to

807
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 5: do all these things. You're very distracted. You got nothing

808
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 5: but football in the NFL, and you're gonna have a

809
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 5: chance to commit your body to the weight room, to

810
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 5: get bigger, to get stronger, to get more powerful. And

811
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 5: then the guy's already a beast. I mean, he was

812
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 5: taking fifth overall because of his performance on the field,

813
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 5: And so when I heard that, I was like, oh,

814
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 5: that's amazing. Like can you imagine Miles Garrett being like,

815
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 5: hey Mason, we're going to the weight room and we're

816
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 5: gonna crush some stuff. Like he's gonna say, let's go.

817
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 5: I'll be there right now, you know. So I think

818
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 5: it's just a perfect mixed there. And then the two

819
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 5: running backs we got. Everybody I talked to just loves

820
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 5: those guys, obviously having to think about, you know, what

821
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 5: are we going to do if Nick Chubb's not there,

822
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 5: and having you.

823
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 3: Know, he could still come back this year.

824
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 2: Don't give up.

825
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 5: He could still write that, I said, potentually, they don't

826
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 5: want to write it up yet. But with us going

827
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 5: back a little bit more to a focus on running

828
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 5: the ball under center, back to kind of what Kevin

829
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 5: Stefancy has done throughout his career, I think you want

830
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 5: to have two studs in the backfield at least, so

831
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 5: I thought overall it was it was great in that

832
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 5: tight end. Sorry, the linebacker Carson Schwezinger from uh what

833
00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 5: is U? C l A dude's got speed, He's he

834
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 5: gives you an amazing option if j Oka's neck isn't healthy.

835
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 5: But when you've got a super fast linebacker who's got

836
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 5: a nose for the football, you can put him anywhere

837
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 5: right and you play a lot of dime Nicolay. You

838
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 5: can plan a play in at that nickelback position. You

839
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 5: can rush the passer with him, you can let him

840
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 5: run sideline a sideline, and you need that speed in

841
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 5: the middle of the field to defend guys in the

842
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 5: NFL as a Lamar Jackson.

843
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 3: When you think about a guy like Carson Swessinger zero

844
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:36,760
Speaker 3: star recruits walk on to go from that to really

845
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 3: not starting until the last year he was in college

846
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 3: for the thirty third pick in the NFL draft. I mean,

847
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 3: doesn't this guy feel like Cleveland is gonna love him?

848
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 3: And isn't that a kind of remarkable story when you

849
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 3: really think about it, and how good these scouting services

850
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 3: have gotten.

851
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's amazing. I mean, back back in my day

852
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 5: in two thousand and three when I went to college,

853
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 5: like I was, I don't know, three star or whatever,

854
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 5: and there was me Rivals or Scout whatever dot com

855
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 5: and Tom Lemming I.

856
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 2: Think was the guy's name.

857
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 5: He was in Chicago and he was basically the only

858
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 5: big name high school scout and he drove all over

859
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 5: the country and all of these guys at camps and

860
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 5: at the like the few scouting combines they did, but

861
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 5: it was reasonable that people just flew under the radar.

862
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 5: But nowadays this is it's impossible to understand how a

863
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 5: man of that talent who becomes a high NFL draft

864
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 5: pick would be unknown at least to the vast majority

865
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 5: of school. So I think he's clearly a guy that

866
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 5: fits the mold of what we want in Cleveland, what

867
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 5: the fans love, and that was one of the things

868
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 5: I mentioned kind of at the end of Friday night,

869
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 5: I think in social posts that I sent to the

870
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 5: Browns was like, we got football guys, And it was

871
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 5: very clear that the Browns want to be able to

872
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 5: select dudes that fit in with the culture of the

873
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 5: city and what we want to build with this organization

874
00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 5: with tough, hardworking, dependable committed guy that buy in and

875
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 5: are willing to sacrifice for that ultimate goal of winning

876
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl.

877
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about that. I think it was twenty

878
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 2: five half of the thirty two first round picks for

879
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 2: four or five star recruits. Like it's we know who

880
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 2: you are, younger than ever. They do a great job

881
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 2: of evaluating their arm Missus. Guys slipped through, but it's

882
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 2: not at the level that it used to be fifteen

883
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: twenty years. It's also the second time this week Tom

884
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 2: Lemmings's name has come up on the show, which is

885
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 2: unbelievable them. Yeah, no, I talked. I talked about it

886
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 2: on Monday, because when I first got to Tallahassee, it

887
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 2: was it was him, And there was one other guy

888
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 2: that I'm another Tom that I'm blanking on, But Tom

889
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 2: Lemming was the guy. It's like you waited for his

890
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 2: top one hundred to see where guys were ranked, and

891
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,919
Speaker 2: he was by himself, and you're right, he would drive

892
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 2: around a vehicle and talk to high school coaches. It

893
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 2: was wild how far it's come. All right, let's do

894
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 2: the quarterback room. There are currently five Nanda Shaun's coming

895
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 2: off of the second Achilles and so he's not going

896
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 2: to factor in to twenty twenty five, but the other

897
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 2: four will. How does that play? How does if you're

898
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 2: Kevin Stefanski, how do you manage four of them? And

899
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 2: obviously there will have to be decisions that are made

900
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 2: in the fall.

901
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 5: Well, it's a challenging balancing act, but I think it's

902
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 5: actually a pretty nice position to be in, right. Can

903
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 5: you imagine There's been a few teams I've been on

904
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 5: where we're like, all right, we've got nobody competing to

905
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 5: be the starting quarterback this year. Now, technically their surveboard

906
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 5: guys on the roster, but we don't really feel good

907
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 5: about any of them. But to sit there and say, okay,

908
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 5: we know what Flacco is, right, so we feel good

909
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 5: about that. Which having a guy with experience, who's been here,

910
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 5: who's taking us to the playoffs, you feel good, like, Okay,

911
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 5: he doesn't need quite as many reps as a normal

912
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 5: starter would. Obviously you need some knock the rust off,

913
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 5: get on the same page with everybody, But really you

914
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 5: can get Kenny Pickett in there and start getting him

915
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 5: reps right away and just see how he fits. And

916
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 5: you can find out pretty quickly in the NFL. That's

917
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 5: the beauty of the number of practices they have in OTAs.

918
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 5: And then I remember practices they have without paths on

919
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,240
Speaker 5: because they get more reps in the seven on seven environment,

920
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 5: in the environment where you're not having that contact, where

921
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 5: quarterbacks get a chance to drop back and throw the football.

922
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 5: So you got to look at him really quick. And

923
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 5: then with Gabriel and Shador Sanders, I think Gabriel is

924
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 5: a little bit unique, right because he was obviously a

925
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 5: great quarterback in college, but there's a lot of question

926
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 5: marks about Hey, he's undersized, not the elite athlete you

927
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 5: would expect out of a smaller quarterback, not a huge arm,

928
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 5: but he got the job done. So those kill sets

929
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 5: do they translate to the NFL? And I think that's

930
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 5: the question that is going to get answered pretty quickly

931
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 5: because it's like he shows up and wow, just like

932
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,399
Speaker 5: Russell Wilson did wow. Immediately you heard when Russell got

933
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,439
Speaker 5: there that hey, his height doesn't matter, like he's got it.

934
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 5: So I think you find out quickly one way or

935
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 5: the other about Gabriel, and then Sanders the same thing.

936
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 5: So I think you're in a good position where you'll

937
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 5: find out quickly about those guys, and you'll be able

938
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 5: to divvy up the reps sooner than and you normally

939
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 5: would if you had maybe four of the pro style

940
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 5: you know, traditional pocket passers, the big, tall guys with

941
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 5: the big arms, because it comes down to decision making

942
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 5: and you need a huge sample size to decide like, hey,

943
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 5: this guy is a good decision maker or he's not.

944
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 5: Whereas if you're short and you've got all I don't

945
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 5: want to say weaker but a less strong arm, it's

946
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 5: pretty clear out there, Kenny, throw into those windows with timing.

947
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 5: Can you see over the line? Yes or no? Like

948
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 5: you find out right away.

949
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 3: It's gonna be fascinating, right because obviously Dylan Gabriel was

950
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 3: the quarterback that outside of Camore, the Browns had targeted

951
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 3: in this draft. Kenny Pickett's a guy who's fifteen and ten.

952
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 3: Shador Sanders is everybody would agree first or second round

953
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 3: talent who fell down to the and so I think

954
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 3: the Browns obviously when they signed Joe Flacco, thought they

955
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 3: were going to be going in this season with Kenny Pickett,

956
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 3: Flaco and Gabriel. Now Chador's in the mix. Who might

957
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 3: be the most talented of all of them. It's just

958
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 3: gonna be such an interesting thing to watch because not

959
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 3: only is it you mentioned seven on seven, but then

960
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to understand how do they do with

961
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 3: blitzes and checks and all of those things which you

962
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 3: can only really get in like the team periods. But

963
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 3: there are so many limited reps there, don't you think

964
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 3: so much of what goes on perhaps in that quarterback

965
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 3: room huff And maybe I could be totally wrong about this,

966
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 3: but is gonna have to matter as well because there

967
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 3: just aren't enough reps in a practice to possibly really

968
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 3: decide which of these three is gonna be the guy.

969
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 3: I think Flacco, you know what you've got, but if

970
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 3: you are gonna play him, he still needs to get reps.

971
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 3: It's just a completely he speak. We got seen here,

972
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 3: He's there. It is easy. You just I just I

973
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 3: think this is gonna be one of the more fascinating

974
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 3: things to watch, and like, could we carry four quarterbacks

975
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 3: into the season, Probably not, so how this plays out

976
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 3: I think is gonna be fascinating.

977
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the decision kind of is something that

978
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 5: will be really fascinating but closely watched by Browns fans.

979
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 5: It'll be good for our business boys. I mean, I

980
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 5: can't wait to see guys in training camp and be

981
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 5: out there every day. I mean, it's gonna be setting

982
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 5: records a training camp practice. And obviously preseason games are

983
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 5: gonna get really exciting in the second half. So me

984
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 5: and Chris Rose are gonna be real happy. We have

985
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 5: a lot to talk about. But I think one of

986
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 5: the things Kevin is gonna do, and we've I've done

987
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 5: this at times throughout my career back in Wisconsin and

988
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 5: then in Cleveland, is when you do have so many quarterbacks,

989
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,720
Speaker 5: you almost split the team up into two different teams,

990
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 5: and you've got the space to do it. So you

991
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 5: have like the first group going on one field, the

992
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,479
Speaker 5: second group going on the other field, and then let's

993
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 5: say it's flack Hole and Picket on one side. Flackho

994
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,439
Speaker 5: will take the first two reps and let's say there's

995
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 5: ten reps in the period, and then Pickett can take

996
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 5: those next eight, and then on the other field, you

997
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 5: got two guys that are splitting reps five and five.

998
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 5: And then the next time you have that period where

999
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 5: you're splitting the teams up. Now you just take Shaduur

1000
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 5: or you take Gabriel and you put him over there

1001
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 5: and you flip flop them with Kenny Pickett. So now

1002
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 5: he's getting the eight reps with the first UH with

1003
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:09,959
Speaker 5: the first unit, and so I think there are ways

1004
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 5: to do it. It obviously is challenging because you don't want

1005
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 5: to get a look at both the guys, but I

1006
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 5: think it has been done. Samansky's really super sharp about

1007
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 5: finding ways to do that. And with the addition of

1008
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 5: the virtual reality stuff, they can actually get a lot

1009
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 5: of reps and get up to speed with actually just

1010
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 5: being able to see and go through the reps without

1011
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 5: actually having to do it, you know, on the practice

1012
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 5: field in person.

1013
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 2: Huff, you know what else as you were kind of

1014
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 2: going through that plan, which makes all the sense in

1015
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 2: the world. This is one of the rare instances in

1016
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 2: the NFL where you have a wide open you can

1017
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 2: have a you can have a truly open quarterback competition,

1018
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 2: can't they. I mean it was Baker, Baker was the starter, Lood,

1019
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 2: Kevin got here, then you acquired to Sean. It was

1020
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 2: Taylor no, no, when Kevin got here, When Kevin got here, yeah, yeah,

1021
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 2: and then didn't you acquired DeShawn, and Deshawn's the starter. Yep,

1022
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,280
Speaker 2: there is no starter. No, So this is a true

1023
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 2: I mean, there aren't many instances in the National Football League.

1024
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 2: We see this in college all the time, but in

1025
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 2: the National Football League, where you have a true open

1026
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 2: quarterback competition, Hoff, there's no obligation to play anybody.

1027
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it'll be really exciting. Like you said, it

1028
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 5: doesn't happen all that often. I think we kind of

1029
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 5: expect Flack will be the guy to start. But certainly

1030
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 5: if you brought Kenny Pickett in here a while ago

1031
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 5: because you thought he could start, and he was that

1032
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 5: insurance policy in case something happened to Flacco or in

1033
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 5: case we weren't able to get somebody that we felt

1034
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 5: good about in the draft. But I mean, there's nothing

1035
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 5: that says he couldn't be the starter at the end

1036
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 5: of training camp. I think the thing that they just

1037
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 5: need to be careful of is you don't want to

1038
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 5: let the competition drag out too long throughout training camp

1039
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 5: because eventually that second half of training camp, when you're

1040
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 5: really dialing into the preseason games, you're starting writing game

1041
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 5: plan and stuff. We have a good idea of all right,

1042
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 5: this guy's our starter. We want him to get the

1043
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 5: majority reps, and with the twos and threes, you can

1044
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 5: still kind of rotate those other guys. But that first

1045
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 5: half of training camp is a true quarterback competition like

1046
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 5: we probably have never seen before in Cleveland.

1047
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 3: Do you think that, all things being equal, that if

1048
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 3: somebody can be in the neighborhood of Joe Flacco, that

1049
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 3: they would rather go with one of the young guys Pickett,

1050
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 3: Gabriel or Shador.

1051
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 5: I mean, you have to weigh the future into your

1052
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 5: decisions a little bit at least, right, Yeah, I think

1053
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 5: you'll find out pretty quickly, like where Flacco is, and

1054
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 5: you'll know pretty quickly like, okay, with Flacco at quarterback

1055
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 5: and the team we have around him, like is this

1056
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 5: a team that can make a run in the playoffs?

1057
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 5: And if that's the case, then it's, without doubt Flaco's team.

1058
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 5: But if it's close, you're thinking, Okay, we got Flaco

1059
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 5: for maybe this year, then he might retire. Let's go

1060
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,479
Speaker 5: with the young guy if it's close, because he gives

1061
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 5: us more upside, not only down the line, but this

1062
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 5: year as well. Because a young guy is going to

1063
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 5: improve a ton during the season. Black. Oh, he kind

1064
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 5: of is.

1065
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 2: What it is.

1066
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 5: Once you get to a certain age, for sure, you

1067
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 5: play the young guy. You hope that he's making leaps

1068
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 5: and bounds the progress during the season, and then now

1069
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 5: you've got a guy that's got a ton of experience

1070
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,399
Speaker 5: that's your starter going in the next year.

1071
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you get three swings at it.

1072
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I and part of me thinks that

1073
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 3: in some way, shape or form what you're you could

1074
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 3: see all three young guys because I really think, like

1075
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 3: now that you have the two first round picks next year,

1076
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,359
Speaker 3: you really want to know, is Canny pick at the guy?

1077
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 3: Can he be the guy? Can Gabriel be the guy?

1078
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 3: Can should or be the guy? Because what a great

1079
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 3: scenario would be in next year if let's just say

1080
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,399
Speaker 3: we could draft the number one receiver in the draft

1081
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 3: and Caleb down so the number one receiver and the

1082
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 3: number one tackle or use those ones to just buttress

1083
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 3: around like maybe we have found our quarterback. But I

1084
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 3: think you're gonna need them to play to know that.

1085
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 3: And I think I think you're right. I think a

1086
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 3: decision needs are you need to figure out pretty quickly

1087
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 3: Number one, who is the best quarterback period, and if

1088
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 3: the best quarterback is Flacco at this point, then the

1089
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 3: question you have to ask is do we believe with

1090
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 3: Joe Flacco at quarterback we we can we can try

1091
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,399
Speaker 3: to win the AFC North. And the answer that questions yes,

1092
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 3: And obviously I think you go that way. And if

1093
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 3: it's not, though, then I think you have to pull.

1094
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 2: Back from that.

1095
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 5: Certainly. And there's always the wild card of like maybe

1096
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 5: maybe Schadeur shows up and he wows you right, like

1097
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,879
Speaker 5: there's there's certainly a potential that that happens and you're like, wow,

1098
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 5: he gives us a chance to win the AFC North.

1099
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 5: Let's make him the starter, you know, and it doesn't

1100
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 5: have to be something that weighs down the line. But

1101
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 5: I think they've given themselves a lot of flexibility and

1102
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 5: that was the great thing I think that they feel

1103
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 5: the best about coming out of this draft is we've

1104
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 5: hit on some big time needs. We got tremendous value

1105
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 5: from Shador Sanders, who, hey, might your franchise quarterback who

1106
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 5: knows he's definitely got an opportunity. But you didn't have

1107
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 5: to spend much on him, and you didn't have to

1108
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 5: really commit to him. Beyond this year, and then you

1109
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 5: have those two first round picks next year. So if

1110
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 5: you find you got this year like you mentioned, boom,

1111
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 5: now those are position players. If you didn't, now you

1112
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 5: can use that to move up and potentially select a

1113
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 5: quarterback that you like for the future. So the flexibility

1114
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,919
Speaker 5: that they have is awesome, but it is a little

1115
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 5: stressful if you're there, because now you've got a quarterback

1116
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 5: competition with four guys and you don't even really know

1117
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 5: who's gonna be the front runner.

1118
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 2: Huff How was what was Young Jack's reaction to announcing

1119
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 2: the pick on Friday?

1120
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 5: So it was interesting. I was up there Thursday for

1121
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,240
Speaker 5: the draft and then Friday and getting ready for the show,

1122
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 5: and I was like, well, Jack's coming up, Like, why

1123
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 5: don't I just see if the NFL's cool with him

1124
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,760
Speaker 5: being able to announce the pick, Like, I'll be up there,

1125
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 5: I'll do whatever they want, but like it, maybe he

1126
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 5: can say the name or at least if you can

1127
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 5: stand next time, like I should at least ask. I'd

1128
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 5: be mad if I didn't ask. So the person that

1129
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 5: was my handler that like is in charge of all

1130
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 5: the people that come, all the players that announced picks,

1131
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 5: through the NFL. I ask him, and he's like, no, sorry,

1132
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 5: we can't do it. It's too late, Like we need

1133
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 5: to do all the security clearance because since the tragedy

1134
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 5: in New Orleans during the College Football Nations Championship, like,

1135
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 5: the security at these NFL events is crazy. The super Bowl,

1136
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,800
Speaker 5: they basically closed down everything within a mile of the

1137
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 5: stadium with huge fencing, and there was you know, a

1138
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 5: couple ways in and a couple of ways out, and

1139
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 5: there's security everywhere, but you can't really get around the.

1140
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 2: Way you normally do.

1141
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 5: To be able to get into the core area, you

1142
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 5: have to have a security clearance. They do a background check,

1143
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 5: like it's a really really big deal. And I was like, okay,

1144
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 5: I understand, but I feel like that's a bad answer.

1145
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 5: I'm like, the NFL is not gonna look bad if

1146
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,919
Speaker 5: my son, who's like a diehard brown standles everything about

1147
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 5: the team where had to toe Browns, comes up there

1148
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 5: with me and announces the pick. I'm like, that's a

1149
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 5: bad answer. So I went to my boss who works

1150
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 5: for NFL events, who's basically like in charge of the

1151
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 5: super Bowl, the Draft, all the events overseas, and so

1152
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 5: the only person he reports. He really is like Roger Goodell.

1153
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 3: So I was like, that's a good place to go.

1154
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 5: Hey, I'm like, I don't want to go around anybody's back,

1155
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 5: but do you think my son could come and be

1156
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 5: on stage with me? And he's like absolutely, So it

1157
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 5: was great. Five minutes after I got the response from

1158
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 5: the NFL that he couldn't do it, I get the email,

1159
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 5: no problem, just give us his birthday and send us

1160
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 5: a headshot. I'm like yes, So we organized it. We

1161
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,720
Speaker 5: were able to get him through like the back doors.

1162
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 5: I had a runner that was working for me that

1163
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 5: found him out with the peasants and was able to

1164
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,959
Speaker 5: give him security clearance and like went through the two

1165
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 5: mile of catacombs to be able to get to where

1166
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 5: I was. So we got to hang out my green

1167
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 5: room and then when we were up there getting ready

1168
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 5: to announce the pick, he's standing there back stage with me,

1169
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 5: and as you'd expect, like he's he is a very

1170
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 5: confident young man, but like he was really nervous, and

1171
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 5: he was he felt embarrassed almost, you know, he like

1172
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 5: didn't want to embarrass himself. He's never been I mean,

1173
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 5: I've never been in front of two hundred and fifty

1174
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 5: thousand people. I've never seen unsea of humanity like that

1175
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 5: in my life. I didn't go to Woodstock, so I

1176
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 5: played in Ohio State. No, that's like one hundred and

1177
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 5: ten or whatever, but this was more than So he's

1178
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 5: really nervous and he's like, Dad, I'm embarrassed. I want

1179
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 5: to do it. I'm like, no, it'll be great, buddy,

1180
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 5: everyone will love it. He's like, I'm just embarrassed. I'm like, okay,

1181
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 5: well just come up and stand with me. And we're

1182
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 5: standing back there and we got all the cards in

1183
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 5: front of us with all the names, and so we're

1184
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 5: like practicing the names really quickly, and we get the

1185
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 5: pick in and it's Quinchon Judkins. And we were we

1186
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 5: had the lady who's in charge of the pronunciation, and

1187
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 5: Roger was right there, and so she's like, it's it's

1188
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 5: quinchan and lot. The music is really loud and everything.

1189
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 5: He says quin Shawn Jenkins, and I said, Jack, can

1190
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 5: you say this quin Sewn Jenkins? He goes, Dad, it's Judkins.

1191
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 5: He's that's running back in college football. He did this.

1192
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 5: He's a truck he's a truck guy. He likes to

1193
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 5: run people over and he said, he's like, I got this.

1194
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say the name. I'm like, okay, great, this

1195
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 5: is awesome. And then I was like, do you want

1196
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 5: me to say running back Ohio State? And he said, no,

1197
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 5: I got this Dad. I'm like, my man, you got

1198
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 5: this is right. So then we walked out there. Like

1199
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 5: five seconds later, we get up on stage and I

1200
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 5: had to read from the card.

1201
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 2: He did not.

1202
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 5: He looks right out into the audience. He's like Quinn

1203
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 5: Sean Judkins running back Ohio State. And I was like,

1204
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 5: oh my gosh, you nailed this. And immediately I had

1205
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 5: like fifty text messages from his teachers and parents and

1206
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 5: it was it was it was really really.

1207
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 3: I tried to get a good picture of it for you.

1208
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 3: Half while we were on the air. When that happened,

1209
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 3: I was like, this is so cool. And then they're

1210
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 3: going home in the car and puts up post the

1211
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 3: video though you guys, you're what is it the Pound

1212
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 3: podcast and Brown's Kids podcast?

1213
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, he just he wouldn't shut up. And I mean,

1214
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 5: I loved that about him because I love talking with him,

1215
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 5: you know, and it's he's my guy, and he just

1216
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 5: knows everything. Like, I'll talk to him before I do

1217
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 5: shows because you know so much. And so we were

1218
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 5: just talking. We were listening to some after draft reports,

1219
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 5: you know, podcasts and stuff, and and I'm like, he's

1220
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 5: just going on and on about the Browns picks. And

1221
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 5: I'm like, dude, let's let's just record this and I'll

1222
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 5: just call the podcast and like what should we call it?

1223
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 5: And of course my suggestions were bad, and he was like, Dad,

1224
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 5: let's call it the Pond Browns Kids Podcast. I'm like, perfect,

1225
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 5: let's do it. So I just videoed it as you

1226
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 5: were driving, and he nailed it. Man, it was great.

1227
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 2: So cool. Man, it's so cool to be able to

1228
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 2: share in that and and to see it up there

1229
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 2: and yeah, it's awesome. And and boy, the college football

1230
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 2: acumen pretty good. Scout, he's on it.

1231
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 5: I'm done you. He knows everything about everybody. I don't

1232
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 5: know how because we don't even really watch that much TV.

1233
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 5: But he's like, he's like, you, guys, there's is he

1234
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 5: Whenever I talk to you, you got like that photographic memory.

1235
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 5: That's how he is. And it's fun like being able

1236
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 5: to hang out with your kids and like talk about

1237
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 5: adult stuff, you know, like, we're finding that a just

1238
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 5: really fun.

1239
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 3: So cool.

1240
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 2: If when he's twenty one, he gets a phone number

1241
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 2: from you and then prank calls somebody and then you're

1242
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 2: fined one hundred thousand dollars for that, how will you

1243
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 2: handle that?

1244
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 5: Hoff, Well, I hope that he has better judgment than

1245
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 5: that and has more empathy for the common man than

1246
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 5: to think that that's.

1247
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 2: A good idea.

1248
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 5: So, uh, there, there's gonna be a stern conversation if

1249
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 5: that happens. And I don't think he'll have a phone

1250
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 5: from me after that point.

1251
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 2: If that happened, We're I'm garnishing wages until it's paid

1252
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 2: back in full if that happens, Like, I'll be fine,

1253
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 2: I'll pay the fine, but I'm garnishing.

1254
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 5: Yes. Yeah, I took like a business law class in college,

1255
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 5: and uh, they always talk about trouble damages. I don't

1256
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 5: want one hundred thousand back. I want one hundred thousand

1257
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 5: plus two hundred thousand for damages.

1258
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a tough feels fair crazy, absolutely crazy.

1259
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 2: It feels fair, all right, buddy, Good talking to you,

1260
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 2: pal as always great talking to you. Uh, And what

1261
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 2: a cool week I have you share with the family. Uh,

1262
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 2: and we'll catch up again soon hopefully. Ah sounds good.

1263
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 5: Thanks for having me on ZLC in a couple of

1264
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 5: weeks at Turkey Camp Baby, Let's get yeah.

1265
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 2: Baby, hold on, hold on, wait a set. I didn't

1266
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 2: know if we could talk about this.

1267
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 4: I sent a text to the girl and he didn't

1268
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 4: look at his phone.

1269
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 3: The girl is going to, are you still there?

1270
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 2: I'm there?

1271
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 3: Okay, hops here.

1272
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, thank you?

1273
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 2: What hey? Hold on?

1274
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:31,919
Speaker 4: Give me a legal idea real quick.

1275
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 2: You're listening to ESPN Cleveland eight point fifty w k

1276
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 2: n R, a good Karma brand station.

1277
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 3: What I'm going to Turkey camp Baby? Do you have

1278
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 3: any idea what you've signed up for? I'm the somalier,

1279
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 3: I'm the official.

1280
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1281
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 2: One of the questions. I need the details on this.

1282
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 3: So the Hofus put together like a sheet that you

1283
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 3: have to fill in various things like yeah, like can

1284
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 3: you lead a group to hunt Turkey?

1285
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 2: No? No, hard No.

1286
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 3: Do you have your own shotgun?

1287
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 2: No?

1288
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,919
Speaker 3: No, I do not. So Bennett said, what can you offer?

1289
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 5: So?

1290
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 3: I said, I can offer. I'd be happy to sue chef.

1291
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 3: I can provide play by play commentary.

1292
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 2: Of the hont you gonna be quiet?

1293
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 3: So that's out. So then we landed on Somalier, which

1294
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 3: I'm going to be great at all.

1295
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 2: Right, where is this taking place? How long is this commitment?

1296
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be there Friday to Sunday in this is

1297
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 3: this at the farm? The I don't know where is this?

1298
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 2: Where are we going?

1299
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 5: Yep, yep, We're going to the family farm, six Springs

1300
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 5: farm there in southwest Wisconsin in God's country. Man. He's

1301
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 5: gonna have the time of his life. It's gonna be incredible.

1302
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 5: We got like thirty some people coming. I've got my

1303
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 5: two buddies in Madison, who are chef's Joey Baggels he

1304
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 5: was chopped. He's my partner in Gotham Bagels. And then

1305
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 5: Dan Bonano he's a James Beard finalist best chef in

1306
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,919
Speaker 5: the Midwest, piging the per coat. He's actually a guy. Yeah,

1307
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 5: he's a guy that actually got my beef very first

1308
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 5: time and started serving his restaurants and encouraged me to

1309
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 5: start selling direction Consuer. And then you know, Alex Mack

1310
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 5: usually comes, John Greco comes. I got a bunch of

1311
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 5: buddies from Ohio that will be there. Wisconsin Buddies, NFL buddies.

1312
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 5: So it's uh, it's eighty party twenty percent turkey hunting.

1313
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 5: So it's a good balance for just about anybody. And

1314
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 5: now we got our official somalier.

1315
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 2: I want video of him calling them in.

1316
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 5: All right, hang on, zee, this is what you gotta practice.

1317
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 5: I gotta call right here.

1318
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, effort in hop you got time?

1319
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 3: Wasn't He doesn't have a callers. He actually do that

1320
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 3: just by himself.

1321
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's you. Sometimes they blow on something.

1322
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 3: You have a call like you actually have something that

1323
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 3: is helping to do this.

1324
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, you get this little mouth diaphragm thing and

1325
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 5: you know kind of it looks like a diaphragm. It's

1326
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 5: like a little you of wire and it stretches the

1327
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 5: latex piece of cross God, and you put it in

1328
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 5: your mouth and then you you sing sweet nothing to

1329
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 5: the tommy turkeys in the woods. Try to pool them

1330
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 5: just like college all over again, only the it's beautiful.

1331
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 3: I don't even know, like, hop, what am I supposed

1332
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 3: to wear?

1333
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 6: Like?

1334
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 2: Do I have to go buy like camo?

1335
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 5: Of course?

1336
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 3: All right?

1337
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 2: Are so I need to get into this. This is

1338
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 2: really important, Okay, better than egalized, even better better you

1339
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 2: have camo.

1340
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 3: You gotta send me what kind of camo you want?

1341
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:53,439
Speaker 3: And then I also know that I need to get

1342
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 3: you know, be ready to go to Octoberfest as well.

1343
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 3: So you need that outfit as well.

1344
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 2: You got to have a you need to hit Kabella's

1345
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 2: up asap. Okay, so you need to hit one of those.

1346
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 3: I need it. I want to know what, like, you know,

1347
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 3: are we talking? Is this rommel in the desert?

1348
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 2: Are we in yours? I know where in the forest? Yeah,

1349
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 2: you're in the forest.

1350
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 3: Is like Return of the Jedi or woods?

1351
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 2: Please tell me that he's sleeping? Please tell me this

1352
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 2: is a real camp off. Yeah with no toilet we got.

1353
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 5: We have toilets. Don't worry, we have to but you

1354
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 5: can also you know.

1355
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 2: This is so good.

1356
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 3: I mean, for number one, I'd love to be in

1357
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 3: nature to be great.

1358
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 2: This is everything that I need. I need proper.

1359
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 3: So how am I in your mind I'm going to

1360
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 3: be a disaster?

1361
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 2: No no, no, no no no, You're very good at everything.

1362
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 2: I don't sinse you're gonna suck at this. This will

1363
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 2: be unlike anything you've ever done in your life. Fact

1364
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 2: times a billion.

1365
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 3: Hunter, so that like you if you have asked him

1366
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 3: for I like, I need to know are you going

1367
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 3: to arm him off?

1368
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 2: Is he going to be armed?

1369
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 5: It remains to be seen. Take him to the range

1370
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 5: Friday and see what is unhandling skills are before we

1371
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 5: go and arm him and in danger all of Western Wisconsin.

1372
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 2: Fair he has played duck hunt. Yes, so they're not flying,

1373
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 2: they're on the grounds.

1374
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 3: I don't know that I need.

1375
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 2: And then if you're not armed, then you're gonna be

1376
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 2: with the Hoff. I presume during the hunt, at which point,

1377
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 2: like when the Hoff takes one down, you scurrying up

1378
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 2: I think is phenomenal. And I want to see you

1379
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 2: with one like over your shoulder carrying it out. I

1380
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 2: don't want to pose picture.

1381
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 3: Where they're like where you kneel over it and it'sycles well,

1382
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 3: and then they usually you'll have them likes sling one

1383
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 3: over the shoulder half.

1384
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 2: I'm not afraid of that. That's what I want.

1385
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm going to be involved. I mean,

1386
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 3: they're disemboweling of a turkey. I don't know if we

1387
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 3: should be. I don't know if I'm going to be

1388
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 3: involved in that.

1389
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 2: I always felt like that was the right of the hunt.

1390
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 2: Are you going to do the thing? What's that? Are

1391
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 2: you going to do? One of the traditions we have

1392
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 2: is that if you make a kill during the hunt,

1393
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,439
Speaker 2: you have to remove the heart and take a bite

1394
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 2: of the heart raw to prove that the passage from

1395
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 2: the animal to you onto the next life. That's one

1396
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 2: of the traditions we have. I assume you.

1397
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 3: Did not ask about number one. And that's how zago

1398
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 3: zago ate a raw caribou leg and then they asked

1399
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 3: him to eat the heart and he refused and they

1400
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 3: threw him out of the village. Well, I was like,

1401
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 3: after he ate that raw caribou leg, he was like,

1402
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 3: they're ready to make him like king. So they offered

1403
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 3: him which was the greatest delicacy of still beating heart.

1404
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 3: And he couldn't do it.

1405
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 2: No, I don't want still beating. It won't be beating.

1406
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 2: But I want you. I think, I think, is it cooked?

1407
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 3: Is it?

1408
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 5: No?

1409
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 2: It's you. You. You were disemboweling the turkey and it's

1410
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 2: still going to be beating, and you have that you

1411
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 2: take that heart. I want to bite under that heart.

1412
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 2: I'm sure you guys do that off that's part of

1413
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 2: the tradition.

1414
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 5: Well, it will be for ze, but typically our tradition

1415
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 5: is we take a shot of wild turkey after we

1416
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 5: shoot a wild turkey, and then the party starts.

1417
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 3: I feel I feel like I'm ready for that, that

1418
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 3: I'm capable of that, said my will.

1419
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, turkey getting so yeah, maybe we'll let him eat

1420
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 5: the hard but I'll take the wild turkey shot.

1421
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, I'll I wouldn't want to deny

1422
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 3: you that delicacy. Hawf, I would just and somalier. I'll

1423
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 3: pick the per mind to go with the heart though,

1424
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 3: don't you worry?

1425
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 2: When is this happening in the next couple of weeks? Yeah?

1426
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 3: May two weeks?

1427
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

1428
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 3: So that's why I was saying to you earlier today.

1429
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 3: I was like, I need you to give me like

1430
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 3: a full like layout, like in detail of what you

1431
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 3: need me to bring for myself so that I don't

1432
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 3: look like an idiot.

1433
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1434
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 3: I also knowense of humor that there could be he

1435
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:42,480
Speaker 3: sent you a Google sheet, but the Google sheet doesn't

1436
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 3: say like what kind of like camo and stuff I need?

1437
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 3: I need, like I need you to help me. I'm

1438
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 3: a novice. Well, if I was going to be like,

1439
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 3: if this is where we were hunting something in the sea,

1440
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 3: I would know what wet suit to wear. I would

1441
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 3: look very h But this, this is out of my element.

1442
01:07:56,800 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 5: Well, I mean I wrote, like, long sleeve camo shirt.

1443
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 5: How much more details do you need?

1444
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 3: There's a lot of kinds of camo. Well you're not

1445
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 3: for I'm going in.

1446
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 5: I'm doing it just like a bush.

1447
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 3: Can I say this a great president? Indeed great beer

1448
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:19,879
Speaker 3: head for the mountains?

1449
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 5: Uh?

1450
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 3: May I ask what if I because I am, you know,

1451
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 3: and it's true. My mom listening, she will be very

1452
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:29,639
Speaker 3: she likes it. I acknowledge this part of me. There's

1453
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 3: there's debate that I'm either somewhere between one sixteenth and

1454
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 3: one thirty second chip away. Could I dance? Could I

1455
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:38,720
Speaker 3: dress like Daniel da Lewis and last the Mohicans? Would

1456
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 3: that be acceptable if I'm not in camo?

1457
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, as long as you're wearing your leader hosing on

1458
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 5: the bottom, which is you know, the leather pants. It's

1459
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 5: kind of similar there.

1460
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 3: Yes, So I need a camo and leaders and two

1461
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 3: things that are not currently in my collection that will

1462
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:54,639
Speaker 3: be in my collection in the next two weeks.

1463
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:55,800
Speaker 2: Definitely.

1464
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 5: This is if you don't have camo, I can let

1465
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 5: you borrow my camo, but need the leaders in because

1466
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 5: the Saturday night is always our costume night. And with

1467
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 5: a nod to me coming back from Germany.

1468
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll be ready.

1469
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no, I'm gonna have the Hellas beer. We've

1470
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:15,639
Speaker 5: got all the stuff, We'll have some decorations. It'll be great.

1471
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 2: This is amazing.

1472
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 3: It's gonna be wild. This is an all time By

1473
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:23,799
Speaker 3: the way, Miss Kate very nervous.

1474
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:27,679
Speaker 2: Why would you be nervous? Why nervous? Well, if turkeys

1475
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:28,680
Speaker 2: are not predators.

1476
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 3: I think she's nervous that I'm going to be there

1477
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 3: eighty percent. Party will be like thirty six weeks.

1478
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:38,879
Speaker 2: Oh, I thought she was worried about something like perhaps

1479
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 2: a Yeah, I hope I'm gonna happen to Dick cheneyer

1480
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 2: shot somebody up, Yeah, somebody else. You gotta be careful.

1481
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I will be very cautious. I'm working on

1482
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 3: my call.

1483
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, great job, Hoff, incredible effort out of you.

1484
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:56,639
Speaker 3: Maybe that'll work.

1485
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 5: Oh, that's very good.

1486
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 3: I just spent all and just spit all a spitballing here.

1487
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 2: That's all we're doing. That's it. That's the one. Is it?

1488
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 3: Like we're gonna We're gonna do that, and then they're

1489
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 3: just gonna like walk up and be like where are

1490
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 3: the ladies?

1491
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 2: Dude? They're a cunning bird. They're tricky. Yeah, you got

1492
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 2: you got your work cut out for you. All right off,

1493
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 2: we'll talk soon.

1494
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 3: Give his crying.

1495
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 2: Let's go, baby, I'm ready. I mean, at this point,

1496
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:28,840
Speaker 2: how could anything but the next level be next? You're

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01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:31,400
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Speaker 3: the show. You guys might need to call me Nick

1512
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:30,799
Speaker 3: because I'm shook.

1513
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 2: I think I said, I know you can do it.

1514
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:37,680
Speaker 2: I just don't know that you don't set up for it.

1515
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:40,599
Speaker 4: I just want you to field dress after the after

1516
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:42,679
Speaker 4: the kill, I mean we did.

1517
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:45,680
Speaker 3: Why can't I just know my limitations and why can't.

1518
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 2: I cousin Nate was big on that, like on the

1519
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 2: Eat the.

1520
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 4: Fresh Law down in the Pond Eastern Ohio. If you're

1521
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:57,600
Speaker 4: gonna go down to hunt, you better know how to

1522
01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 4: feel dress.

1523
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta do that. I don't know, but to

1524
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 2: be fair, I've never I've never killed a turkey. Like

1525
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:06,759
Speaker 2: we've done pheasants and geese and stuff. I've never done turkey,

1526
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 2: so I don't know what that's like.

1527
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:09,720
Speaker 3: Do I need to get like a cool hat that

1528
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 3: has the flaps over my ears, like a camo.

1529
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 2: Hatse so that write this name down. This is the

1530
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 2: type of hat I want you to put this into. Ama,

1531
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 2: Is this real? Dude? Are you write down Elmer Fud? Yeah?

1532
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 3: I know what Elmer Fudd's hat looks like. That's what

1533
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 3: I was asking.

1534
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 2: That's the hat I want you in. I want you

1535
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 2: in that hat. That's what I want. I want you

1536
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 2: looking like Bobby Bakalah when they went out to get

1537
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 2: sell or to get to get Chrissy and Paulie. That's

1538
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 2: what I want you. That's exactly what I want you,

1539
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:43,719
Speaker 2: just like that. In Pine Barrens. By the way, someone

1540
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 2: put together a ten thousand gorillas versus one million men

1541
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 2: in AI.

1542
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that.

1543
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:53,600
Speaker 2: This is what AI says, men totally total eliminations, fourteen

1544
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 2: gorillas remaining nine eighty six. It's out right.

1545
01:12:59,320 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 3: Nobody can know that.

1546
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 2: Dolbin hofsid grillas do You made a great point on

1547
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 2: surface area, Like could you even get enough surface area

1548
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 2: where your strength could be of use? That's the tough part.

1549
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 2: All right, let's go around the sports world. This was

1550
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:16,640
Speaker 2: from Monday. Bill's general manager Brendon Bean was on a

1551
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 2: local radio show and to kind of revisit the Bill's draft.

1552
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 2: Let's have a listen to this conversation.

1553
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:27,840
Speaker 7: I was just listen to the last few minutes of

1554
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 7: your show before I came home waiting on here. I

1555
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 7: was like, twenty eighteen all over with you guys.

1556
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:35,919
Speaker 2: We we're very how so well you guys.

1557
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 7: Were bitching in twenty eighteen about Josh Allen. You guys

1558
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 7: wanted Josh Rosen, and now you guys are bitching that

1559
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 7: we don't have a receiver. I don't get it, Like

1560
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 7: we just go hold on, let me talk. We just

1561
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 7: scored thirty points in a row for eight straight.

1562
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 2: Games a year ago.

1563
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:54,560
Speaker 7: I get you guys asking why we didn't have receivers,

1564
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 7: but I don't understand it.

1565
01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 5: Now.

1566
01:13:56,439 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 7: You just saw us lead the league in points. You add,

1567
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 7: all the postseason, no one scored more points than the

1568
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 7: Buffalo Bills, including the Super Bowl champions.

1569
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 5: So you just saw us.

1570
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 7: Do it without Stefan Diggs saying group, How is this

1571
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 7: group not better than last year's group? Like, I don't

1572
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 7: like our job is to score points and win games.

1573
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:19,800
Speaker 7: Where do we need to get better defense? We did that,

1574
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 7: So I get it. You got to have a show,

1575
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:23,599
Speaker 7: and you got to you gotta have something.

1576
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 2: To bitch about.

1577
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 7: But pitching about wide receiver is one of the dumbest

1578
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:28,720
Speaker 7: arguments I've heard.

1579
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 2: If you are one of those hosts, how do you

1580
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 2: handle that?

1581
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 3: I mean, they don't really push back or say anything.

1582
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:39,080
Speaker 2: What are you gonna do?

1583
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 3: What are you gonna do? At that point? Like you're

1584
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 3: not going to fight him.

1585
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 2: I assume they're probably a partner. Yes, probably they're getting

1586
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 2: the GM the monday after. They're probably a partner with

1587
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 2: the Bills. Look, I mean this, he kind of gets

1588
01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 2: to spike the ball himself because if they were complaining

1589
01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:01,640
Speaker 2: about Allen and they wanted, well, well, that'd be a

1590
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 2: pretty good trump card to lay down. He's had that

1591
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:05,639
Speaker 2: in his back pocket. He's been ready.

1592
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, So no matter how much they felt

1593
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:12,680
Speaker 3: like they were boys with him, he's had this. If

1594
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 3: they dared criticize him again, he had this ready to go.

1595
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:16,679
Speaker 2: Right.

1596
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 3: Yes, that's how I would read that. I'd say, you

1597
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 3: know what, that's why you do what you do. That's

1598
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 3: why we do what we do. We have to have opinions.

1599
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 3: We'd like to see more receivers. We get you traded

1600
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 3: for Marii Cooper. You obviously felt like you needed more receivers.

1601
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 3: I should give a third round pick for him. So

1602
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:32,720
Speaker 3: like you were trying, that one didn't really work out.

1603
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:34,920
Speaker 3: We didn't go to the Super Bowl last year, still

1604
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:38,440
Speaker 3: haven't been there. But you know, scoring school.

1605
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 2: And by the way, all of that is fair, scoring school.

1606
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 2: Everything you said is fair. Scorings actually very cool but

1607
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 2: that's a very that is a that you better be

1608
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 2: pretty secure if you're one of those cats to push back,

1609
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 2: you don't say anything, you can't.

1610
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 3: You just gotta say say what do you I would

1611
01:15:53,320 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 3: probably say noted yep, elite offense? What what do you

1612
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:05,559
Speaker 3: like about the room now? And what do you what

1613
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 3: pieces did he add to? What did you feel like?

1614
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 3: If scoring wasn't the issue wasn't receivers? What prevented us

1615
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 3: from getting you know, where you wanted to go? And

1616
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:13,559
Speaker 3: how did we address that this offseason?

1617
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 2: Do these draft picks get you to the super Bowl?

1618
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:18,720
Speaker 2: Do you feel like this offseason got you to the

1619
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 2: super Bowl? Even knock them on the door. So if

1620
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 2: it's not offense, these were the needs? Did this do it? Yep?

1621
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 2: You know those are probably it. I also think like

1622
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 2: it's where we are kind of in a society, Like

1623
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 2: a lot of people listen to what a lot of

1624
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 2: people have to say, and you have access to these

1625
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 2: people like you've never had before via social media. You'd

1626
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 2: be surprised who listens to what you really would folks,

1627
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 2: It's stunning what people here and what they're listening to.

1628
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:50,879
Speaker 2: And I mean, I think the best example in professional

1629
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 2: sports that I always come back to is Durant having

1630
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:57,200
Speaker 2: a Burner account to defend himself on Twitter. Kevin Durant's

1631
01:16:57,240 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 2: the best offensive basketball player that I've ever seen in

1632
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 2: terms of like he's unguardable yep. Seven feet tall and

1633
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 2: he shoots from thirty feet like he's unguardable yep. Right,

1634
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 2: But at the same time, like he was so worried

1635
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 2: about what people were saying that he created a burner

1636
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 2: account to respond to it. Yep. And that's the tricky

1637
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 2: thing there. So we're living in a world where that

1638
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 2: is is very much commonplace. I did not see the

1639
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 2: Yannis Papa Holly Burton things last night. I saw that.

1640
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 2: I saw that. I didn't see it live. I saw

1641
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 2: the replays this morning of it.

1642
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 3: What's his dad doing on the court?

1643
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 2: The dad should be banned from postseason play the rest

1644
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 2: of the way.

1645
01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:30,439
Speaker 3: I don't know that that's gonna happen.

1646
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:32,640
Speaker 2: He should be, he should be, he should be, he

1647
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 2: has no business.

1648
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 3: He should be putting a suite.

1649
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 2: I don't care. Everyone should be the same. I wouldn't

1650
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 2: I say this.

1651
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 3: I mean, the way was by the way out of light.

1652
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:46,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, what else could he do? Also? Like Chuck saying

1653
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 2: Chucks one hundred percent right, like good on Yannis.

1654
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, it's gotta smoked him.

1655
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 2: Like what are you doing? Man?

1656
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:55,559
Speaker 3: He could have smoked get out of here. He gave

1657
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:59,439
Speaker 3: a great answer, lost in it in Perhaps I didn't

1658
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 3: see what was the interaction with Giannis and the other

1659
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 3: guy from the Pacers where he basically grabbed his head,

1660
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 3: would not let go, and that was clearly heated and personal.

1661
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 3: But I think the haliburt and dad stuff almost overshadowed that,

1662
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 3: so he didn't get any at least I didn't see

1663
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:12,840
Speaker 3: a quote about that.

1664
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 2: I didn't see one either. No, no, but.

1665
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 3: The dad is on the court, taunting on the court,

1666
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:19,760
Speaker 3: taunting him.

1667
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:22,680
Speaker 2: Kindly, leave kindly. I just say, you're you're done for

1668
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:24,679
Speaker 2: the rest of this postseason. We'll see you next year.

1669
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 2: If I'm the NBA, that's what I do. Yeah, you're

1670
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:28,800
Speaker 2: gone for next season. We'll see you next year.

1671
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 3: You think they would do that, You think they'll do it.

1672
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 2: I think they should do that. That's very reasonable to me.

1673
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 2: Brand for twenty one year old steal in a phone number.

1674
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:38,720
Speaker 3: By the way, I don't know do we have so

1675
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:41,800
Speaker 3: old Brick just did a presser about twenty five minutes ago.

1676
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 3: He did, yeah, open with a statement taking full accountability,

1677
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 3: saying you would not appeal the fine.

1678
01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 2: But I'm sure somebody said, what do you do? I

1679
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:51,800
Speaker 2: want to hear I haven't seen what was going. I'm

1680
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 2: guessing he'll say, I'm keeping that between me and my son.

1681
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 3: That's fine, but i'd like to hear that.

1682
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:55,559
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1683
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll work on that because we've got four more bricks,

1684
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:00,720
Speaker 4: so much more to come.

1685
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:02,639
Speaker 2: In fact, there is a lot more to come. You're

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest with you, Gibbe. I don't know

1699
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Speaker 2: even know where we are in this show.

1700
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 4: So do you want to hear from Atlanta's Yeah? Absolutely,

1701
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:06,600
Speaker 4: guys talking, All right, let's go.

1702
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:12,800
Speaker 6: First of all, I like to publicly apologize to shout

1703
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:17,320
Speaker 6: or In Sanders family worker. Second of all, I want

1704
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:21,799
Speaker 6: to publicly apologize to mister Blank, Terry Fatina, Randy Morris,

1705
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 6: the entire Balcom's organization. My actions, my actions of not

1706
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:34,240
Speaker 6: protecting confidential data were inexcusable. My son's actions were absolutely inexcusable,

1707
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 6: and for that we are both deeply sorry.

1708
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 8: The NFL has taken action, and I fully respect the punishment.

1709
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:47,439
Speaker 6: We take full responsibility my son and myself, and we

1710
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 6: will not be appealing and fined in any way going forward.

1711
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:56,280
Speaker 8: I promised my son and I will work hard to

1712
01:20:56,360 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 8: demonstrate we are better than this. I'm deeply sorry for

1713
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:04,440
Speaker 8: our actions.

1714
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:08,400
Speaker 2: It's a twenty it's a twenty one year old.

1715
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 3: I still feel like kids getting off pretty publicly, getting

1716
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:14,840
Speaker 3: off pretty easily. It seem Dad's got to go out

1717
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 3: there and got to go eat it.

1718
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, eat it. That sounds like you're talking I mean,

1719
01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:20,600
Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you. It sounds to me like

1720
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:23,080
Speaker 2: you'd be talking about like a sixteen year old. Yeah,

1721
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 2: he's a college junior.

1722
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 3: Yes, it is a twenty one year old kid man

1723
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:27,680
Speaker 3: was a man.

1724
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:30,880
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, twenty one. Come on.

1725
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:38,719
Speaker 4: The amount of things that that guy at the podium's

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01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:44,599
Speaker 4: got to clean up, like frank Frankly, he's lucky he's employed.

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01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:48,680
Speaker 2: I wondered about that. That's what initially thought. Is it

1728
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:50,840
Speaker 2: a fireable thing? Is that the league?

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01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:51,120
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1730
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:51,720
Speaker 2: Could that be?

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01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:53,679
Speaker 4: Could that have been the league going, hey, you know what,

1732
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:55,720
Speaker 4: the fine's not gonna do, We're gonna need something a

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01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:56,559
Speaker 4: little bigger than that.

1734
01:21:56,640 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 2: I think you could have. I think it would have been.

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01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 2: Let's just say this, like if if the Falcons would

1736
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 2: have said you're fired cause of firing idiocy, they have grounds,

1737
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:09,360
Speaker 2: you know, to do, right. I think that's a stream.

1738
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:12,840
Speaker 2: But I also think the league has done that before. Yeah,

1739
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 2: I don't think it's I don't think this reached this point.

1740
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 2: I don't think it reaches that point. But at the

1741
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:21,400
Speaker 2: same time, and I think I don't know how you

1742
01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:22,840
Speaker 2: get I don't know how you threw the needle on

1743
01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:24,920
Speaker 2: this one. Guys, I don't because it's a twenty one

1744
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 2: year old so I don't know what the Yeah, I

1745
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 2: don't know what the right pound of flesh is on it.

1746
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 3: Great, it's brutal. I mean, the reality is it's a

1747
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:37,000
Speaker 3: prank call. Like was it cool? No, it wasn't cool.

1748
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 2: That wasn't just a prank call. That was a prank

1749
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 2: call for spectacle. You were going to try to that

1750
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 2: that you were going to try to leverage into, you know,

1751
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 2: like a punked yes thanks jerky boys type thing. Yes.

1752
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 4: Uh, there's some news coming out of Baltimore. Go ahead,

1753
01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 4: Kyle Hamilton gets the fifth year added, you know, the

1754
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 4: option year for rookie. But they don't give the fifth

1755
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:13,360
Speaker 4: year deal to Tyler Linderbaum.

1756
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:16,720
Speaker 3: They want to. They did note very quickly that they

1757
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:18,640
Speaker 3: want to re sign him. And I wonder if my

1758
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:21,519
Speaker 3: guess is perhaps what the fifth year option would pay

1759
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:23,599
Speaker 3: him is maybe out of whack with what a center

1760
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:25,559
Speaker 3: would get paid. That's the only thing I can think of.

1761
01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 2: This from William Belichick via North Carolina.

1762
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:32,320
Speaker 3: This is here.

1763
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:35,519
Speaker 2: It is it's the day. No, it's quote. Notice that

1764
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 2: I agreed to speak with CBS Sunday Morning to promote

1765
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:39,720
Speaker 2: my new book, The Art of Winning, Lessons for My

1766
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:42,560
Speaker 2: Life in Football. Prior to this interview, I clearly communicated

1767
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 2: with my publicist at Simon Schuster that any promotional interviews

1768
01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:47,680
Speaker 2: I participate in would agree to focus solely on the

1769
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 2: contents of the book. Parenthetically, no one ever gets that,

1770
01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 2: no one. Unfortunately, that expectation was not honored during the interview.

1771
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 2: I was surprised when unrelated topics were introduced. I repeatedly

1772
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:01,679
Speaker 2: expressed to the report order and the producers I preferred

1773
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 2: to keep the conversation centered on the book. After this

1774
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 2: occurred several times, Jordan, with whom I share both a

1775
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 2: personal and professional relationship, stepped in to reiterate that the

1776
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 2: point to help refocus the discussion. She was not deflecting

1777
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:14,719
Speaker 2: any specific question or topic, but simply doing her job

1778
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 2: boy to ensure the interviews stayed on track. Some of

1779
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 2: the clips made it appear as though we were avoiding

1780
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 2: the question of how we met, but we have been

1781
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:23,800
Speaker 2: open about the fact that Jordan and I met on

1782
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:26,800
Speaker 2: a flight to Palm Beach in twenty twenty one, which,

1783
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 2: by the way, means he met her when she was

1784
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:34,559
Speaker 2: twenty years old, and geez, the final eight minute segment

1785
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 2: does not reflect the productive thirty five minute conversation we had,

1786
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 2: which covered a wide range of topics related in my career,

1787
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:42,960
Speaker 2: and said it presents selectively edited clips and stills from

1788
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:44,560
Speaker 2: just a few minutes of the interview to suggest a

1789
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:47,560
Speaker 2: false narrative that Jordan's attempt to control the conversations is

1790
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 2: simply not true. Be honest with you. You're trying to sell

1791
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:56,200
Speaker 2: a book. Okay, you agreed to speak to CBS Sunday Morning.

1792
01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 2: My guess is Simon and Schuster reached out to CBS

1793
01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:00,120
Speaker 2: Sunday Morning and said, can we get Bill on? We

1794
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 2: like to promote the book. CBS said, sure, CBS News

1795
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 2: is not something that ever is going to allow for

1796
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:07,880
Speaker 2: parameters on an interview. They're just not it's not the

1797
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:10,920
Speaker 2: way it works. It's not the way journalism works. Network level. Yeah, Like,

1798
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, it's just not Peong Chain Morning, Like,

1799
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:17,679
Speaker 2: that's not what it is. Like it's CBS Sunday Morning.

1800
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:20,400
Speaker 2: So like, and he would know that this is the

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01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:22,719
Speaker 2: guy who spent his most of his professional career in Boston.

1802
01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 2: Like you imagine doing an interview the Boston Globe saying, yeah,

1803
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:28,640
Speaker 2: but you can't ask me about this. Come on, we

1804
01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:29,559
Speaker 2: won't do the interview.

1805
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 3: By the way, here's here's a thing that also came

1806
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:35,200
Speaker 3: out it. By the way, two minutes ago, Darren Rovel

1807
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 3: breaking Shador Sanders, picked number one forty four in the

1808
01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:42,360
Speaker 3: NFL draft, is now the best selling jersey in his

1809
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 3: draft class. Numbers just confirmed across the fanatics network of sites.

1810
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 2: He's got three million followers on social is the number

1811
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 2: one selling.

1812
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:51,760
Speaker 3: That's surprising to me. All right, this is the other

1813
01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:54,000
Speaker 3: thing that I was gonna say. It came up earlier today.

1814
01:25:55,760 --> 01:26:00,559
Speaker 3: The Hard Knocks UNC version was on until it was twelve.

1815
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:02,599
Speaker 3: Some have loudly insisted that a deal has never done.

1816
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:04,640
Speaker 3: It basically was to the point where NFL Films in

1817
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:06,879
Speaker 3: North Carolina were hoping to announce the production on February

1818
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 3: twenty eighth, the same day that multiple outlets reported to

1819
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:09,920
Speaker 3: be a done deal.

1820
01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:10,719
Speaker 2: So what happened?

1821
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 3: The Athletic dot Com reports of Bill Belichick's girlfriend, Jordan Hudson,

1822
01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 3: played an instrumental role in stopping the production related to

1823
01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 3: her request to be heavily involved in the project. The

1824
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 3: report sites multiple industry sources briefed on the negotiation negotiations,

1825
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:26,560
Speaker 3: and it meshes with everything we've heard about. Something was

1826
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:29,880
Speaker 3: locked and loaded ended up shooting blanks. So they did

1827
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 3: not like her involvement. You think she wrote the release

1828
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:38,439
Speaker 3: was scrapped. The conversation took a turn. We were not

1829
01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:39,639
Speaker 3: comfortable with.

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01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:43,040
Speaker 2: The I had Brooke Pryor on this morning and we

1831
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:46,679
Speaker 2: talked about, you know, the Buckeyes being drafted, Howard and Sawyer,

1832
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 2: and then I asked her about Pickett in terms of

1833
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 2: what she saw from Kenny there and then but then

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01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 2: at the end, I remember she's a North Carolina grad,

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01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:53,760
Speaker 2: and so I asked her, I said, how does this

1836
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:56,760
Speaker 2: how's this sit? And there's not many things make me

1837
01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:59,240
Speaker 2: root against my alma mater, but this is close. Like

1838
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:03,320
Speaker 2: that's like there's a sense of embarrassment for North Caroline.

1839
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:04,719
Speaker 2: This is just such a strange story.

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01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:08,760
Speaker 4: And by the way, he hasn't coached in a game yet.

1841
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:11,840
Speaker 2: No, and they're not recruiting and they're not portaling like

1842
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:15,960
Speaker 2: it's it's a scene, man, all right, So much more

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01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:17,800
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, you never know. This is the thing

1850
01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:49,080
Speaker 2: about this job. You never know what you're going to

1851
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:51,800
Speaker 2: get into in a week. No, it's the beauty of it.

1852
01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:53,640
Speaker 2: You just don't know what type of curve ball is

1853
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:56,960
Speaker 2: going to be thrown your way. And so there's this

1854
01:27:57,040 --> 01:28:01,559
Speaker 2: has been a very very fun week. The we should

1855
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:05,200
Speaker 2: point out that the Cleveland Browns Manchester Fan Club is

1856
01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:10,400
Speaker 2: responsible for these gorgeous, amazing man City quarterships which thank you.

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01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 2: They're beautiful, Thank you, thank you greatly appreciate you thinking

1858
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 2: of us and taking the time and energy to send

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01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:19,200
Speaker 2: them here. They will be worn with great pride. I

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01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 2: believe that are the citizens. I believe it's what it is,

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01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:26,080
Speaker 2: g Man could could they are confirm? Yeah? Earling Holland

1862
01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:28,760
Speaker 2: and the boys will be ready for that. So very

1863
01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:32,880
Speaker 2: good job. So that's very very thankful, Azy Browns. With this,

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01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 2: how much can I donate to your favorite cherries just

1865
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:37,840
Speaker 2: to shadow as grow for the week, for the love

1866
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:42,360
Speaker 2: of God, please, so z if you're just joining us

1867
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:45,280
Speaker 2: as going turkey hunting with Hoff on the Big Turkey Hunt,

1868
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 2: It's amazing that this is happening. It's I just am

1869
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:52,120
Speaker 2: I The fact that I found out about it on

1870
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:56,960
Speaker 2: air was it's even better. It's unbelievable that you miss

1871
01:28:56,960 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 2: a lot. I guess this is good from Red at work.

1872
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:03,439
Speaker 2: There's no costume contest. The Hoff is just trying to

1873
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 2: get Nathan to show up and leader hosen all by yourself.

1874
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:08,080
Speaker 2: That's in play, in.

1875
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:11,160
Speaker 3: Play, But it was also on the group chat that

1876
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 3: you needed to I mean that would be amazing. You

1877
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:15,879
Speaker 3: needed to have your here for the party.

1878
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:20,439
Speaker 2: I bet you are. Mac is a good one. I

1879
01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 2: get in my truck to leave work and there's a

1880
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:24,439
Speaker 2: turkey screaming at me. Not what I thought I would

1881
01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:27,519
Speaker 2: hear from fifty. Well, to add to that, Mac, not

1882
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:29,439
Speaker 2: only was a turkey scream at you, a turkey was

1883
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 2: screaming at you in the form of the Hoff. Yes,

1884
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:33,240
Speaker 2: that was the Hoff doing a turkey call.

1885
01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:35,360
Speaker 4: That's right, not once but twice on the show.

1886
01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:39,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that that was part of it as well.

1887
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:43,479
Speaker 2: Great great stuff, great stuff. What we got Rookie Minnicamp

1888
01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:45,799
Speaker 2: next week? Do we get that. Is that where we're headed?

1889
01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:50,160
Speaker 3: That's where we're head, brother, Yeah, we do.

1890
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:52,000
Speaker 2: I'm hit.

1891
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:54,920
Speaker 3: So funny.

1892
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:58,720
Speaker 2: And he is also purchasing. Do you have you have

1893
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:00,439
Speaker 2: to buy leader hose in two because you for that?

1894
01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:01,240
Speaker 3: Correct?

1895
01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:02,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you have to get lead your hose and

1896
01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:05,360
Speaker 2: then you got to get the turkey. Cameo does he

1897
01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:08,639
Speaker 2: need a does he need like a sleeping bag or something? No?

1898
01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:11,840
Speaker 3: No, I was I checked that. I that some people

1899
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:15,240
Speaker 3: have their own whole setups. I do not have my

1900
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:18,000
Speaker 3: own whole setup. And Charles Dawson said, bring a packet dudewives.

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01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:18,639
Speaker 2: Don't worry, brother.

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01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:22,000
Speaker 3: That is everywhere I go dude wipes and Charman ultra

1903
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:22,800
Speaker 3: and you better believe it.

1904
01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:25,440
Speaker 4: So people don't understand. We takes that on the road.

1905
01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:27,400
Speaker 3: Every road trip. Yeah, literally everywhere I get.

1906
01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:30,000
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't we live in a society? Yeah? Why that's

1907
01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:34,400
Speaker 2: not even up for debate. What is the where do

1908
01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:36,360
Speaker 2: we know? Where we're going in Wiscon? I thought Hoff

1909
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:40,479
Speaker 2: said southwest Wisconsin? Did he say that was your?

1910
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:41,400
Speaker 3: I think we're going to his?

1911
01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:45,280
Speaker 2: I know, but like his spot? Is it southwest?

1912
01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:48,080
Speaker 3: He's in Wisconsin right outside of missus Madison.

1913
01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:49,880
Speaker 2: That's where he lives. But is that where the farms.

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01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:53,559
Speaker 2: That's where the farms a couple of hours away. Yeah,

1915
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:55,800
Speaker 2: so you're, I don't know, look it up.

1916
01:30:56,280 --> 01:30:58,559
Speaker 3: Your may town, six Springs, Farman, where's it?

1917
01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:01,720
Speaker 2: Your minimum temp is like you're it's gonna be in

1918
01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:05,240
Speaker 2: the forties at night, yeah, and then six high sixties,

1919
01:31:05,240 --> 01:31:07,400
Speaker 2: low seventies in the day. So you're gonna be forties

1920
01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 2: at night, forty degrees. Here's the deal. And not just

1921
01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:12,920
Speaker 2: because there's gonna be all sorts of accountrements to make

1922
01:31:12,960 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 2: you have a good time and potentially fall asleep. You're

1923
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:16,519
Speaker 2: to sleep like a baby with cold.

1924
01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:18,840
Speaker 4: You're gonna do it Mbprofen before you go to bed

1925
01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:20,960
Speaker 4: glass of water, Lita.

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Speaker 2: Prof So good. Sammy Monson's gonna join us tomorrow. Of

1927
01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:25,559
Speaker 2: that to look forward to. Also, the next level is

1928
01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:28,280
Speaker 2: coming up next. We are back tomorrow. Cleveland Browns Daily,

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Speaker 2: eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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