WEBVTT - California Governor Gavin Newsom (D) Talks Donald Trump, ICE

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<v Speaker 2>So, I think the situation in Minnesota is still on

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people's minds right now. I would like

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<v Speaker 2>to hear, you know, what you thought of the.

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<v Speaker 3>Events this weekend in Minneapolis, the death.

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<v Speaker 2>Of Alex Pretty and then what we're hearing today about

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<v Speaker 2>a possible pullback by the Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you feel like that has credibility?

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<v Speaker 4>You got me on the credibility. Look for me, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>just contextualize the way I process this. This you know,

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<v Speaker 4>future happened here first in June of last year, where

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<v Speaker 4>we had four thousand National Guard that were federalized, We

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<v Speaker 4>had seven hundred active duty Marines that were not sent

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<v Speaker 4>overseas to protect our interests, were sent to seize control

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<v Speaker 4>of the second largest city in the United States of America,

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<v Speaker 4>Los Angeles, to five thousand federalized troops on the streets

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<v Speaker 4>of an American.

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<v Speaker 3>City last June.

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<v Speaker 4>That mindset was further stretched a few months later, when,

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<v Speaker 4>in an effort to organize a construct to respond to

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<v Speaker 4>what happened in Texas with midterm redistricting, we launched our

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<v Speaker 4>campaign for Proposition fifty in Little Tokyo in Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 4>the sacred site of where we were bussing and intererning

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<v Speaker 4>the Japanese well known side for anyone down in southern California.

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<v Speaker 3>It was at the of all places, Democracy Center. As

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<v Speaker 3>we were.

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<v Speaker 4>Walking in, people were being intimidated by a gentleman by

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<v Speaker 4>the name of Bovino. Greg Bovino masked men surrounding the building.

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<v Speaker 4>A poor guy selling strawberries across the street disappeared. Collateral

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<v Speaker 4>damage was found a few weeks later. Tried to intimidate

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<v Speaker 4>folks from assembling. We said that was a preview.

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<v Speaker 3>Of things to come. On election day in November. I

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<v Speaker 3>wake up in the morning, true social says.

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<v Speaker 4>The elections rig DOJ prosecutors and investigators are there. The

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<v Speaker 4>expectation that they were going to file a lawsuit, which

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<v Speaker 4>they have done as you know, was set. But they

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<v Speaker 4>also set the tone of the day by sending out

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<v Speaker 4>Bovino's team, the bore tech teams, the Border patrol tactical units,

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<v Speaker 4>the Dodger Stadium assembled there in order to chill free

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<v Speaker 4>expression and free speech for diverse communities that were already

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<v Speaker 4>on edge on election day.

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<v Speaker 3>These guys are not screwing around, So I'm getting the

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<v Speaker 3>said nothing about.

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<v Speaker 4>What's happening in Minnesota, and Minneapolis surprises me at all.

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<v Speaker 4>Quite the contrary. And for a second, if Tom Homan,

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<v Speaker 4>who was accused of a fifty thousand dollars bribe, were

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<v Speaker 4>charges dis appeared. Speaking of disappearing cash, FBI is the

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<v Speaker 4>adults in the room.

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<v Speaker 3>We are in more trouble than any of you think.

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<v Speaker 2>If Republicans don't agree to reform, ice to pull back

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<v Speaker 2>on the DHS budget, should Democrats close the government that's

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<v Speaker 2>now on the table.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's not an option. Well, it is

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<v Speaker 3>an option. Not an option.

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<v Speaker 4>You want your republic, You want to say this democracy,

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<v Speaker 4>you want to enjoy the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe make two hundred and fifty first anniversary of the

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<v Speaker 4>historic project of our founding fathers. It's not an option.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you do in Fulton County today? What did

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<v Speaker 4>Pambondi demand in order to move out? This is the

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<v Speaker 4>second demand in two days, just twenty four hours ago.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm old enough to remember pam Bondi said, we'll leave,

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<v Speaker 4>but we want your voting roles.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the FBI rating voting roles in Georgia around

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty twenty election.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, but I'm referring to that as it relates to

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<v Speaker 4>the Fulton County example today, which is all about setting

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<v Speaker 4>the baseline that the last election twenty twenty was rigged,

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<v Speaker 4>so you should have zero confidence in the outcome of

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<v Speaker 4>the midterm elections, which Donald Trump is going to get crushed.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, what more evidence do we need. It's a

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<v Speaker 4>stacking of all of these things. He is not screwing around.

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<v Speaker 4>He tried to light democracy on fire when he lost

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<v Speaker 4>the election. Try to light it on fire, try to

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<v Speaker 4>destroy this democracy, is trying to ruin our republic, He's

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<v Speaker 4>trying to torture.

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<v Speaker 3>What more evidence do we need on a day to

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<v Speaker 3>day basis? All of this is.

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<v Speaker 4>Part of that same narrative, that same threat. It's tragic.

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<v Speaker 4>What's happening. A five year old, angelic young boy used

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<v Speaker 4>as leverage and collateral this madness. Masked men not even

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<v Speaker 4>identifying themselves, no warrants, terrorizing communities, people dying quite literally

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<v Speaker 4>now dying. We said people who will die. People are

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<v Speaker 4>dying in the United States of America. And what is

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<v Speaker 4>the threat today?

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<v Speaker 5>To your question, Well, do what we legally can't do

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<v Speaker 5>or will continue to illegally do what we've been doing

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<v Speaker 5>by terrorizing your community, by turning over people in local jails,

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<v Speaker 5>or whatever the.

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<v Speaker 3>Hell else we want as points of leverage.

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<v Speaker 4>None of this can be normalized, and none of this,

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<v Speaker 4>none of this can be considered credible in the context

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<v Speaker 4>of any of this renewed, well renewed posture of the administration.

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<v Speaker 2>You talked about what the National Guard did in California

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<v Speaker 2>last year. Do you worry that you're continued emergence as

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<v Speaker 2>a as a critic, as an antagonist a Trump will

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<v Speaker 2>bring the same pain that we're seeing in Minnesota back

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<v Speaker 2>to California.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean, I guess we can roll over, kiss

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<v Speaker 4>the ring, put on some kneepads, do what the university's

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<v Speaker 4>law firms, do what ABC did, Paramount did, do, what

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<v Speaker 4>Meta did?

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<v Speaker 3>YouTube did you know, do.

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<v Speaker 4>What so many companies are doing. Maybe get a golden

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<v Speaker 4>share in the Golden State.

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<v Speaker 3>Me seriously, and just watch it all disappear.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess we can do that, or we can stand

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<v Speaker 4>on principle the rule of law, not the rule of

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<v Speaker 4>don I hope it's Donnie, and on all of you.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the rule of don.

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<v Speaker 4>There are co equal branches of government, if a supine Congress.

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<v Speaker 4>The only approximation of a co equal branch of government

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<v Speaker 4>is the markets. Thank you, the markets, I mean Bloomberg.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the only thing he seems to pay attention to.

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<v Speaker 4>He doesn't even pay attention to court orders. You saw

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<v Speaker 4>that the federal judge today ninety six specific attempts to

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<v Speaker 4>completely deny court order just since he's been involved in

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<v Speaker 4>this operation in Minnesota. This is code red, but it's

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<v Speaker 4>become so normalized it's in our bloodstream. I mean, last

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<v Speaker 4>night he did fifty six true socials in sixty minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>Fifty six the President of the United State.

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<v Speaker 4>It's one of them, and forgive me, it's not a

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<v Speaker 4>big deal, but it should alarm you. Was an AI

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<v Speaker 4>generated video of the governor involved with Mexican cartels that

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<v Speaker 4>appears to have its origins as a Russian disinformation campaign.

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<v Speaker 4>The President of the United States is tweeting that out

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<v Speaker 4>about one of his political enemies. He said that hundreds

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<v Speaker 4>of Walmart's stores shut down in the state of California

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<v Speaker 4>because of a twenty two dollar minimum wage sixteen ninety.

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<v Speaker 3>Walmart had to correct that today.

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<v Speaker 4>Said, we actually just opened a news store that happened

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<v Speaker 4>in the United States of America. But you see how

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<v Speaker 4>that travels everywhere. It may even travel to one of

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<v Speaker 4>your inboxes. Maybe it's a tweet, a retweet.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't say it. It was said all of a sudden.

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<v Speaker 3>Now it's in a blog.

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<v Speaker 4>All of a sudden, there's Jesse Waters, all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 4>there's Sean Hannity. All of a sudden, we're having a

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<v Speaker 4>conversation where I have to say, no, it's not true.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not involved with the Mexican cartels.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things that is coming to California is

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<v Speaker 2>an investigation in the waste, fraud and abuse. The Trump

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<v Speaker 2>administration clearly had some success with that in Minnesota. Governor

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<v Speaker 2>Tim Walls is not running for reelection, and now they've

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<v Speaker 2>promised that the investigation into.

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<v Speaker 3>California has begun.

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<v Speaker 2>What will they find and what is at stake?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, they'll find a state that's taken that issue very,

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<v Speaker 4>very seriously. They'll find a state that years and years

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<v Speaker 4>ago established the first framework, something called id ME that

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<v Speaker 4>has stopped one hundred and thirty five billion dollars of fraud.

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<v Speaker 3>Just at the EDD Department.

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<v Speaker 4>You'll see someone working with the Trump one point zero

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<v Speaker 4>administration calling out the fraud in the PUA program, which,

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<v Speaker 4>by the way, the OIG in the dljail at the DL,

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<v Speaker 4>the Department of Labor, his own Office of Inspector General

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<v Speaker 4>identified one hundred and sixty three billion dollars a fraud

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<v Speaker 4>under his administration in that program. California was able to

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<v Speaker 4>stop it. We've prosecuted nine hundred and twenty nine individuals,

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<v Speaker 4>we've called back five point nine almost six billion dollars,

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<v Speaker 4>and we're still winding up all across the country that

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<v Speaker 4>was taking shape. You may have just seen some headlines.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you for those that wrote about them. The California

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<v Speaker 4>became the first pay by Touch with EBT. EBT cards

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<v Speaker 4>saw eighty three percent decline in fraud just last year.

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<v Speaker 4>You saw what we're doing and what the Trump administration's doing.

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<v Speaker 3>To your question with doctor Oz.

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<v Speaker 4>Might have well, you're living in Oz when he went

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<v Speaker 4>down tacking the Armenian community just a few days ago.

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<v Speaker 3>A business is down now thirty percent.

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<v Speaker 4>Poor guy, small businessman running a bakery because he decided

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<v Speaker 4>to do a little TikTok video.

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<v Speaker 3>Or something.

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<v Speaker 4>Saying they're somehow connected to the mob around hospice hospice.

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<v Speaker 4>We've been after that for years and years, before OZ

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<v Speaker 4>was even on the scene. Twenty twenty one, we did

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<v Speaker 4>a moratorium on new hospice program two hundred and eighty.

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<v Speaker 3>We shuddered. We've been after this for years and years

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<v Speaker 3>and years. We want an open hand, not a close fist.

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<v Speaker 4>We absolutely are here to be a partner to go

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<v Speaker 4>after waste, fraud and abuse.

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<v Speaker 3>I started something called ODI Office Digital Innovation.

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<v Speaker 4>I did not, my mistake, do it with a chainsaw.

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<v Speaker 4>Had I done that, you would.

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<v Speaker 3>Know about it.

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<v Speaker 4>We just began the Office Digital Innovation and we started

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<v Speaker 4>to begin a process of we're forming our procurement and

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<v Speaker 4>our strategies on technology across the board, but also on

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<v Speaker 4>the issues of wastepawn abuse. By the way, ODI was

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<v Speaker 4>partnership with the Hot and Human Service to create the

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<v Speaker 4>new EBD card, which again is leading the nation.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm humbled in this prospective.

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<v Speaker 4>No one's denying these issues, but let's also not deny

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<v Speaker 4>this is purely political. You all know this because I

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<v Speaker 4>know you know it, because this is an incredibly bright group.

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<v Speaker 4>You know about the forty eight people just a few

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<v Speaker 4>months ago that we're convicted of fourteen point six billion

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<v Speaker 4>dollars in healthcare fraud in Texas.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, you all know that.

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<v Speaker 4>You must And if you don't, it's because it wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>colored in by the Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 3>Because this is not about fraud and abuse.

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<v Speaker 4>This is about the polarization, politicalization, weaponization not just a grievance,

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<v Speaker 4>but weaponization across the board of agencies, and weaponization the

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<v Speaker 4>likes of which we've never seen from an administration in

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<v Speaker 4>our life.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's try to take a step out of the

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<v Speaker 2>polarization for a moment and talk about your record as

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<v Speaker 2>governor over the last eleven years.

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<v Speaker 3>And I know there's lots to be proud of. Full

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<v Speaker 3>term governor. Yeah, it's also eleven years. It feels like eleven,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's been just seven. But I appreciate that now.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's also, you know, undeniable that we have high

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<v Speaker 2>housing costs some of the highest in the nation, high

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<v Speaker 2>energy costs, among the or perhaps the highest unemployment rate

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<v Speaker 2>in the country. So make the case for us that

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<v Speaker 2>Californians are better off than they were when you took off.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't know. We have the fourth largest economy

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<v Speaker 3>in the world, not the sixth.

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<v Speaker 4>We have more fortune, five hundred companies, and we did

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<v Speaker 4>since twenty nineteen. By the way, Bloomberg data forty nine.

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<v Speaker 4>Now it's fifty eight. We dominate four and five point

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<v Speaker 4>six billion dollar output, thirteen point nine percent of the

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<v Speaker 4>nation's manufacturing. No one comes close sixty two point one

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<v Speaker 4>billion dollars. Just as it relates to agriculture. On the

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<v Speaker 4>issue of housing, there's no state and even some of

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<v Speaker 4>our most progressive critics like has reclined of knowledge. California

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<v Speaker 4>is housing policies to finally break through the original sin

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<v Speaker 4>that goes back decades and decades around the supply a

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<v Speaker 4>demand housing and ballots in the state. We're finally making

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<v Speaker 4>progress in that space, holding cities in counties accountable through

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<v Speaker 4>a housing Accountability unit. We're moving mountains in that space.

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<v Speaker 4>As it relates to broader issues of this state, we

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<v Speaker 4>dominate in fusion robotics. You saw just what Elon just.

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<v Speaker 3>Said he's going to do to convert his factory with

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<v Speaker 3>S and X.

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<v Speaker 4>It's now going to be the new robotics, infusion and

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<v Speaker 4>nuclear advanced nuclear. Obviously in quantum you all know about AI.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no peers.

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<v Speaker 4>You saw last year venture capital highest it's ever been

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred and six billion dollars sixty eight billion last year,

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred and six this year. Interesting, close to seventy

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<v Speaker 4>percent of those dollars invested back in to the state

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<v Speaker 4>of California UCLA. Every year they put out a report

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<v Speaker 4>going back since Ronald Reagan, noting that the unique nature

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<v Speaker 4>of our economy, across a spectrum of reasons and issues,

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<v Speaker 4>we tend to have a point nine to one point

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<v Speaker 4>two percent higher unemployment rate consistently going back to when

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<v Speaker 4>Reagan was governor of California than the rest of the

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<v Speaker 4>nation today it's one point one percent higher.

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<v Speaker 3>You are correct about that. It's a stubborn reality, and

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<v Speaker 3>we can get into that.

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<v Speaker 4>And the reason I point out those reports is they

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<v Speaker 4>tend to do it in a remarkable and sophisticated way

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<v Speaker 4>that goes to the struggle of all of us to

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<v Speaker 4>reconcile that but difference. Now, we have our first economic

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<v Speaker 4>and workforce development plan in our state's history, around regions

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<v Speaker 4>rising together. It's thirteen economic and workforce development plans, something

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<v Speaker 4>I'm very proud of.

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<v Speaker 3>We spent three years working on. In fact, we'll be announcing.

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<v Speaker 4>The latest plan DT's here as part of this in

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<v Speaker 4>Orange County next week, and we continue to try to

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<v Speaker 4>reconcile the realities in our diverse.

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<v Speaker 3>Communities, rural not just urban.

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<v Speaker 4>Communities, the live reality of people that don't live in

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<v Speaker 4>the aggregate.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the most important word in politics right now

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<v Speaker 2>is affordability. Is it still too expensive for average Californians

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<v Speaker 2>to make ends meet?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that's why we created a brand new grade preschool

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<v Speaker 4>for all saving people eighteen thousand dollars. That's why we

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<v Speaker 4>did the biggest expansion of any state in the United

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<v Speaker 4>States history on childcare subsidies.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why we created a new product.

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<v Speaker 4>Not Trump Our X should have called a new simar X. Again,

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<v Speaker 4>you would have paid attention. It's called Alrx eleven dollars insulin.

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<v Speaker 4>Not to subsidize cost, to lower cost. That's why we're

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<v Speaker 4>coming out with our own diapers, which is exciting. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>exciting to make an announcement in that space. It's why

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<v Speaker 4>we've not doubled, we've almost tripled the earn income tax

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<v Speaker 4>credits over one billion dollars allow working families to keep

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<v Speaker 4>more of their earning. It's why we had the largest

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<v Speaker 4>tax rebate in US history.

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<v Speaker 3>At a state level.

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<v Speaker 4>Eighteen point one billion, almost eighteen point three depending.

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<v Speaker 3>On how you categorize it.

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<v Speaker 4>But eighteen billion dollar tax rebate to address those costs.

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<v Speaker 4>It's why we have the most progressive rent controls of

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<v Speaker 4>any state in America. That's why we're going hard on

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<v Speaker 4>the supply demand in Ballance as it relates to housing.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why we're starting to address these issues of time

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<v Speaker 4>to delivery some of the most progressive reforms on permitting

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<v Speaker 4>in our state's history for large scale projects. Deliver on

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<v Speaker 4>these large scale projects. We didn't wait for the Abundance

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<v Speaker 4>Book to come out on that. We advanced some of

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<v Speaker 4>those projects years and years ago. Let me give you

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<v Speaker 4>a proof point because it goes to the energy question.

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<v Speaker 4>Since nineteen I'm in San Francisco. Since eighteen seventy four,

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<v Speaker 4>we've installed about one hundred and five gigawatts of electricity

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<v Speaker 4>in the state, thirty point two since I've been governor.

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<v Speaker 4>And why do I highlight that? Because it needs to

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<v Speaker 4>be highlighted. One of the largest installed battery and solar

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<v Speaker 4>farms in the world, Darted in Fresno County, was just

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<v Speaker 4>approved twenty three hundred megawatts under the new procurement reforms

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<v Speaker 4>under these new regulatory reforms. I'm making the point that

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<v Speaker 4>we haven't been sitting back on some of these structural issues.

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<v Speaker 4>I inherited the most blessed and cursed state in America.

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<v Speaker 4>The day I got into office, the largest utility in

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<v Speaker 4>the United States was bankrupt PGE. That's how I started.

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<v Speaker 4>We had to dig out of that. And when you

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<v Speaker 4>dig out of that, yes, that's been the biggest driver,

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<v Speaker 4>interestingly of utility costs when you look at the bill,

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<v Speaker 4>where the costs related to decades and decades and decades

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<v Speaker 4>of neglect to address the underlying issues around the hot's

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<v Speaker 4>getting higher, dry is getting drier, climate, but also forest

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<v Speaker 4>in vesitation, management and undergrounding, all of those.

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<v Speaker 3>Things that we've ten xt.

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<v Speaker 4>We haven't played in the margin five point three billion

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<v Speaker 4>dollars in forest management.

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<v Speaker 3>What I got it was about two hundred million a year.

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<v Speaker 4>Unprecedented investments in this space, Unprecedented responsibility, accountability at PGE.

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<v Speaker 4>We tie executive compensation to performance on safety. We also

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<v Speaker 4>just passed under Cap and invest program, which we extended

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<v Speaker 4>to twenty forty five. Because we're not walking away from

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<v Speaker 4>low carbon green grol A sixty billion. Let me be fair,

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<v Speaker 4>fifty six billion dollar rebate to address costs for utilities

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<v Speaker 4>after eleven years. This is the eleven as Lieutenant governor Governor,

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<v Speaker 4>we finally got a deal with other Western states to

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<v Speaker 4>regionalize our grid. This is one of the big news

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<v Speaker 4>stories that's gotten some.

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<v Speaker 3>Trade attention, but will have the impact.

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<v Speaker 4>Of allowing us to export more of our green and

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<v Speaker 4>clean energy, provide more reliability at a lower cost. We

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<v Speaker 4>estimate a billion dollars a year of savings through that

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<v Speaker 4>for electricity, and we also just advance our nation leading

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<v Speaker 4>energy efficiency programs under Title twenty four four point eight

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<v Speaker 4>billion dollars projective savings.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're not sitting on that issue as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Too quick follow ups because I want to move on.

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<v Speaker 2>You mentioned PG and E should the PG and E

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<v Speaker 2>monopoly in California to be broken up.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, PG and is a very different company than it

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<v Speaker 4>was prior to bankruptcy. I'm more satisfied Under ten fifty four.

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<v Speaker 4>That was the framework in the rubric to which we

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<v Speaker 4>created a statutory requirement as exampled in my comments a

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<v Speaker 4>moment ago, around executive compensation being tied to safety. We

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<v Speaker 4>also have the clawback in that which will remind people

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<v Speaker 4>of receivership where the state can actually assert control statutorially

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<v Speaker 4>in that law that I passed, and we organized to

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<v Speaker 4>take back control if they're not performed.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're saying no, because the accountability does exist.

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<v Speaker 4>Accountability is a persistent issue and continues to need to.

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<v Speaker 3>Be improved.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm not convinced, And forgive me, I'm not that

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<v Speaker 4>a state that finally is turned and is turning DMB

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<v Speaker 4>around wants to get in the utility business.

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<v Speaker 2>And you also mentioned permitting reform this morning. I think

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<v Speaker 2>the President issued in executive order is he believes that

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<v Speaker 2>the state is not moving fast enough on permitting to

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<v Speaker 2>recover from the LA fires.

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<v Speaker 4>Helpful, will give me one thing the state hasn't done

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<v Speaker 4>to address an expertite permitting. There's nothing state doesn't do

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<v Speaker 4>local permitting. I mean, this is the same president of

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<v Speaker 4>United States, a president of the United States that said

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<v Speaker 4>he waived all federal permitting.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, which federal permit for local constructors?

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<v Speaker 2>When I came down here, he was talking about this

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<v Speaker 2>in his cabinet me.

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<v Speaker 3>It's madness. I mean, it's actual madness.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's what's more madden it is there's no accountability

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<v Speaker 4>it's not called out. I mean, it's just so preposterous,

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<v Speaker 4>so ludicrous, it's hard for me to even respond. But

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<v Speaker 4>he's responding to his tonality of frustration because there's been

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<v Speaker 4>two nine hundred and eighty one permits that have been.

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<v Speaker 3>Approved so far as of this week.

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<v Speaker 4>That's how I start a start every week with updated

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<v Speaker 4>permits and by the way, stress tests that two nine

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<v Speaker 4>eighty one. By the way, it's three hundred and eighty

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<v Speaker 4>five a year later in Maui, or rather, forgive me

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<v Speaker 4>in Paradise, which had sixteen thousand units roughly equivalent about

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<v Speaker 4>fourteen thousand in Los Angeles, three hundred and eighty five

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<v Speaker 4>a year later approved in Paradise two thousand, nine eighty one,

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<v Speaker 4>over a thousand units under construction as we speak in LA.

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<v Speaker 3>It's been just over a year. No one's happy, no

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<v Speaker 3>one's satisfied. But it's unprecedented, just as.

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<v Speaker 4>Was the cleanup done in six months, unprecedent dozeness houses

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<v Speaker 4>that are already occupied, which is remarkable. Again, not good enough,

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<v Speaker 4>so tonally, he expressed that frustration sign an executive order

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<v Speaker 4>that has in the vernacular of San Francisco and San

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<v Speaker 4>Franciscan's the form and substance of fog. There's no there there.

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<v Speaker 4>It literally is meaningless. He actually the only thing meaningful

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<v Speaker 4>is he calls for an audit of his own federal agency,

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<v Speaker 4>which I think was a good idea.

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<v Speaker 3>And the also meaningful thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that he refuses to meaningfully address the issue for recovery,

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<v Speaker 4>and that is the gaps between your insurance, the cost

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<v Speaker 4>of construction, which has gone up because of his tariffs

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<v Speaker 4>and his mass deportations and the impacts of those things.

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<v Speaker 4>By providing to Congress a letter, simple letter, for a

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<v Speaker 4>supplemental appropriation of thirty three point nine billion dollars, which

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<v Speaker 4>is what the state is asking on behalf of the

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<v Speaker 4>American people that happen to reside in southern California. Interestingly,

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<v Speaker 4>on that, to their credit, Republican leaders in Congress, not

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<v Speaker 4>just Democratic leaders, including yesterday our calling on the President

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<v Speaker 4>to send that disaster supplemental on behalf of American people.

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<v Speaker 4>And I could not be more proud of those leaders.

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<v Speaker 4>In fact, one of them tragically passed away, and I

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<v Speaker 4>was at his memorial a few days ago. Doug LaMalfa

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<v Speaker 4>man of principle of character extraordinary American, also supported my

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<v Speaker 4>recall Doug, but he's a good man.

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<v Speaker 3>Was remarkable. Wife Jill Speaker Johnson was there.

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<v Speaker 4>Fortunately he's walk right by me. I can have a

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<v Speaker 4>chance to engage with him. He gave beautiful remarks, he

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<v Speaker 4>really did about Doug, and he talked in principled terms,

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<v Speaker 4>just not reflected in the work he does when he's

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<v Speaker 4>in Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 2>Sadly, so, Governor, I want to talk about Davos first

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<v Speaker 2>and then the Wealth tax in the next ten minutes

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<v Speaker 2>before we open them up to questions. I believe the

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<v Speaker 2>Secretary of Treasury said you were frolicking and Davos reason.

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<v Speaker 2>But Canadian Prime minute he was as well. Canadian Prime

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<v Speaker 2>Minister Market.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know as well, but I appreciate that. Yet,

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<v Speaker 3>Mark Carney gave a powerful speech.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people watched it, saying that the rules

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<v Speaker 2>based global order is over, and I wonder if you

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<v Speaker 2>agree with that and how the next president might repair

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<v Speaker 2>some of these relationships.

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<v Speaker 3>I chance to meet with Carney interesting right before the

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<v Speaker 3>speech and forgive me.

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<v Speaker 4>I I hope you guys have taken a look, maybe

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<v Speaker 4>you've reported about it. Just a few days ago, the

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<v Speaker 4>Foreign Minister of India gave a speech that was very

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<v Speaker 4>similar to Carney's.

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<v Speaker 3>India just made a deal with the EU on teriffs.

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<v Speaker 4>Twenty years they've been talking about it, they weren't even

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<v Speaker 4>talking to each other, and now with the friction that

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<v Speaker 4>Trump has created, they've now brought the mother, as the

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<v Speaker 4>EU president said, the mother of all trade deals together,

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<v Speaker 4>and they did it in real time, building on what

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<v Speaker 4>they did in South America with the EU. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>this wrecking ball presidency is jaw dropping in real time.

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<v Speaker 4>So it goes to your question about what Carney said

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<v Speaker 4>about that rupture.

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<v Speaker 3>It's real truth. Trust.

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<v Speaker 4>I talked to dozens and dozens of European leaders, presidents

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<v Speaker 4>countries across the globe, had the opportunity to run in

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<v Speaker 4>to people.

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<v Speaker 3>From countries I have read about. I confess I can't

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<v Speaker 3>even pronounce some of them. Universal condemnation. They said, sometimes you.

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<v Speaker 4>Were unpredictable, but never this unreliable. It's a wrecking ball presidents.

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<v Speaker 2>Should the next president offer an apology to our allies?

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<v Speaker 3>How you look?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, the apology is loaded term in American politics.

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<v Speaker 4>Bama's on an apology tour, so I appreciate the frame,

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<v Speaker 4>but show respect. These are allies you also show respect

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<v Speaker 4>for the fact that we're the envy of the world.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, your headline's not mine. I mean just a

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<v Speaker 4>year ago, our economy is the enemy of the world.

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<v Speaker 4>We continue from a global perspective and share of GDP

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<v Speaker 4>continue to outperform decades and decades because of these translantic alliance.

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<v Speaker 4>It's because of our trade and security relationships, particularly with

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<v Speaker 4>our European allies.

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<v Speaker 3>We're destroying all that in real time.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it was Sam Rayburn who said, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>any fool or idiot can break down a barn door,

0:25:24.480 --> 0:25:26.520
<v Speaker 4>but it takes a great carpenter to build one.

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<v Speaker 3>Destruction is not strength, it's weakness. Weakness masquerading is strength.

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<v Speaker 3>That's all.

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<v Speaker 4>Trump is weakness masquerading as strength. And so it will

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<v Speaker 4>take the strength of character. It will take leadership to

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<v Speaker 4>be repairs of that breach, and it will take some

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<v Speaker 4>time to restore trust. But I'm a little more confident

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<v Speaker 4>we can based upon just my observations, but also the

0:25:48.520 --> 0:25:54.760
<v Speaker 4>interactions I was with leaders from Spain just yesterday. I

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<v Speaker 4>continue to have the privilege representing the fourth largest economy

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<v Speaker 4>of the world to engage with MoU from people around

0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:03.920
<v Speaker 4>the world. Again, open hand, not a close fist sub

0:26:04.040 --> 0:26:10.119
<v Speaker 4>national relationship, stable, strong partner California, unstable, unpredictable the federal government.

0:26:10.480 --> 0:26:13.680
<v Speaker 3>But he'll Trump be known in years.

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<v Speaker 4>He's got a few years left, even if his state

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<v Speaker 4>of mind is to extend his term and have competitive

0:26:20.119 --> 0:26:26.480
<v Speaker 4>authoritarian election like putin his Time of life suggests this

0:26:26.600 --> 0:26:29.840
<v Speaker 4>term will be up in three and that gives us

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<v Speaker 4>an opportunity to turn the proverbial page.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, one report from Davos that did

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<v Speaker 2>surprise me was the suggestion that you had a very

0:26:37.600 --> 0:26:43.640
<v Speaker 2>kind of amiable interchange with the president and his staff

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<v Speaker 2>behind the scenes.

0:26:44.800 --> 0:26:46.080
<v Speaker 3>And he said, Gavin, you're good.

0:26:46.359 --> 0:26:48.280
<v Speaker 2>And so how do we tellents your version of that,

0:26:48.400 --> 0:26:51.280
<v Speaker 2>and how do we reconcile little public animosity and maybe

0:26:51.280 --> 0:26:52.639
<v Speaker 2>the private fact slab.

0:26:52.760 --> 0:26:53.480
<v Speaker 3>My wife is here.

0:26:53.520 --> 0:26:56.520
<v Speaker 4>We had a close to twenty minute conversation with Trump

0:26:56.600 --> 0:26:58.439
<v Speaker 4>the night before he federalized.

0:26:57.920 --> 0:27:00.920
<v Speaker 3>The guard Or He just literally lied and said he

0:27:00.960 --> 0:27:02.920
<v Speaker 3>read me the Riot Act. And Jim said, my god,

0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:04.320
<v Speaker 3>that went well. Must have.

0:27:04.760 --> 0:27:06.800
<v Speaker 4>I said, I know, I was like s laughing. I

0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:08.360
<v Speaker 4>was smiling the whole time. He kept trying to bring

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<v Speaker 4>up LA and no interest in LA. Wanted to talk

0:27:11.280 --> 0:27:13.639
<v Speaker 4>about how many hats he had sold. He goes, what

0:27:13.760 --> 0:27:16.000
<v Speaker 4>do you think of new scum? He says, this is

0:27:16.040 --> 0:27:18.480
<v Speaker 4>right the night before he federalized National Guard. I said, hey, yeah,

0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:20.080
<v Speaker 4>what do you think of new scum. It's pretty good,

0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:23.160
<v Speaker 4>isn't it, I say, He goes, and I paused. He said,

0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:26.639
<v Speaker 4>it's original new scum. I said, well, it's not really original.

0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 4>There was literally a guy in seventh grade on Baltimore

0:27:28.800 --> 0:27:29.720
<v Speaker 4>Street used to call me that.

0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:31.800
<v Speaker 3>And he goes, well, I have, but how about Maga.

0:27:31.840 --> 0:27:34.400
<v Speaker 4>I said, well, that's pretty good, but that's not original either,

0:27:34.920 --> 0:27:37.159
<v Speaker 4>and he got a little sick as I mentioned Ronald

0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:40.200
<v Speaker 4>Reagan and I mentioned may even meg women make California

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<v Speaker 4>great again, and he goes, no, matter how many hats

0:27:42.400 --> 0:27:44.080
<v Speaker 4>you think I sold, I said, I don't know, he

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<v Speaker 4>goes hundreds of that.

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<v Speaker 3>That's amazing, sir, it's amazing.

0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:51.240
<v Speaker 4>And so it's not amazing to me that we had

0:27:51.280 --> 0:27:56.679
<v Speaker 4>that interaction. It should amaze all of you that the

0:27:56.680 --> 0:28:02.200
<v Speaker 4>President of the United States, you know, operates as he does.

0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:06.840
<v Speaker 4>And I continue, I said it this morning.

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<v Speaker 3>On my team.

0:28:07.200 --> 0:28:09.679
<v Speaker 4>I mean, they mentioned we have our morning meetings, our

0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:12.639
<v Speaker 4>staff meetings, and you know, there were three or four things?

0:28:12.800 --> 0:28:15.160
<v Speaker 4>Is he that you brought up today? I said, why'd

0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 4>you bury the lead? And it's just because it's just

0:28:17.080 --> 0:28:19.200
<v Speaker 4>it's shock and awe.

0:28:19.640 --> 0:28:21.400
<v Speaker 3>Every single day.

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<v Speaker 4>Nothing can be normalized, but our relationship, strangely is normal personally.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let me ask about the wealth tax and then

0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:32.760
<v Speaker 2>we'll open this up. So folks in this room probably

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<v Speaker 2>know the California health Care Union has proposed a wealth

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<v Speaker 2>tax on the two hundred billionaires in the state five

0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:43.920
<v Speaker 2>percent of their net worth over five years. You've come

0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:46.640
<v Speaker 2>out against it. But what they're trying to address, what

0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:48.640
<v Speaker 2>they say they're trying to address, is a shortfall in

0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:52.120
<v Speaker 2>medical caused by HR one, the One Big Beautiful Act.

0:28:52.360 --> 0:28:54.440
<v Speaker 3>Do you agree that.

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<v Speaker 2>Medical that the state healthcare system isn't endangered by this

0:28:58.280 --> 0:29:00.360
<v Speaker 2>federal law? And what should we do about it if

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<v Speaker 2>not a wealth tax?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? HR one is a disaster.

0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:06.600
<v Speaker 4>I mean, just talk about your kids and grandkids who

0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:07.280
<v Speaker 4>sat on them.

0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:13.440
<v Speaker 3>Debt burden, interest rates, instability. I mean, it's the same

0:29:13.520 --> 0:29:15.640
<v Speaker 3>Vesson guy. I would say, well, the devastits down.

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<v Speaker 4>He didn't even mention the costs of the Big Beautiful

0:29:19.160 --> 0:29:19.920
<v Speaker 4>Bill and how.

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<v Speaker 2>That's going to impact the debt and so what do

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<v Speaker 2>we if not asking the richest among us to pay?

0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:25.320
<v Speaker 3>What do we do well?

0:29:25.320 --> 0:29:27.920
<v Speaker 4>We do California is the most progressive tax structure in

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<v Speaker 4>the United States of America.

0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:31.240
<v Speaker 2>There are billionaires who are sitting on equity who don't

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<v Speaker 2>sell it.

0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:34.040
<v Speaker 4>We have a billionaire lower cancer that are paying those

0:29:34.080 --> 0:29:37.800
<v Speaker 4>progressive taxes. We have the highest progressive tax rate in

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<v Speaker 4>the United States of America.

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<v Speaker 3>I long believe in that.

0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:43.479
<v Speaker 4>I did sit a state of the state arguing in

0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 4>favor of it, and it should many ways be a

0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:49.840
<v Speaker 4>model for reforms that we need to see federally.

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<v Speaker 3>That said, I fear the way this has been drafted,

0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:54.760
<v Speaker 3>and I'm old fashioned.

0:29:55.120 --> 0:30:00.200
<v Speaker 4>I actually seek first to understand before I'm understood sometimes.

0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:04.560
<v Speaker 3>And I was burdened by the facts.

0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:10.000
<v Speaker 4>The fact is it actually will reduce investments in education.

0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:14.640
<v Speaker 3>It will reduce investments and teachers and librarians, childcare.

0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:21.560
<v Speaker 4>It will reduce investments in firefighting and police. The impact

0:30:21.640 --> 0:30:24.680
<v Speaker 4>of a one time tax does not solve an ongoing

0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:30.440
<v Speaker 4>structural challenge that has been exacerbated by the impacts of

0:30:30.600 --> 0:30:35.040
<v Speaker 4>HR one. In fact, what it will do is what

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<v Speaker 4>the Legislative Analysts Office said it would do, which didn't

0:30:38.360 --> 0:30:40.800
<v Speaker 4>surprise any of us when they put that out. You

0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:45.360
<v Speaker 4>would have a windfall one time, and then over the

0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:50.680
<v Speaker 4>years you would see a significant reduction in taxes because

0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:52.240
<v Speaker 4>tax payers will move.

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<v Speaker 3>And that is what.

0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:56.560
<v Speaker 4>I fear at a state level. At a state level,

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<v Speaker 4>So what do you supported this?

0:30:58.520 --> 0:30:59.200
<v Speaker 3>I think you can have.

0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 4>That's an interesting conversation. It's a challenging one too. There's

0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:05.520
<v Speaker 4>some constitutional issues around takings. There's impact as it relates

0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:07.880
<v Speaker 4>to the flow of capital, the impacts on the market,

0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:10.560
<v Speaker 4>which are not inconsequential. If you told me you're gonna

0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:12.320
<v Speaker 4>have a one time where do you mark to market?

0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:14.720
<v Speaker 4>How do you audit? Do we go in and find

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<v Speaker 4>out for those that are in this tac packet? When

0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:18.000
<v Speaker 4>did you buy your boss?

0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:18.320
<v Speaker 3>Yet?

0:31:18.760 --> 0:31:20.760
<v Speaker 4>You sure it was nineteen seventy one? Or was nineteen

0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:25.320
<v Speaker 4>ninety one? Markets have adjusted? Where's the wine collection?

0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 3>Sir?

0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:28.680
<v Speaker 4>Let me look again? Hold it marked to market? Way

0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:30.680
<v Speaker 4>to say, so, you haven't sold your stuff? But all

0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:33.600
<v Speaker 4>these things it gets complicated. I'm not suggesting. I'm not

0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:36.560
<v Speaker 4>here to belittle it argue. I think the imbalance I

0:31:36.560 --> 0:31:38.600
<v Speaker 4>said at the state of the state, the imbalance between

0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:40.120
<v Speaker 4>the rich and the poor is the oldest and most

0:31:40.120 --> 0:31:44.240
<v Speaker 4>fatal ailment of all republics. That was Plutarch two thousand

0:31:44.320 --> 0:31:46.480
<v Speaker 4>years ago. Ten percent of people on two thirds of

0:31:46.560 --> 0:31:47.840
<v Speaker 4>wealth in the United States of America.

0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:49.520
<v Speaker 3>This is not working.

0:31:50.440 --> 0:31:54.240
<v Speaker 4>Thirty year old, never done worse thirty year old today

0:31:55.200 --> 0:31:56.680
<v Speaker 4>than any generation of history.

0:31:56.720 --> 0:31:57.760
<v Speaker 3>This is not working.

0:31:57.760 --> 0:32:02.480
<v Speaker 4>You've got to democratize our economy. You're going to save democracy. Absolutely,

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:08.320
<v Speaker 4>But this proposal by one local in s c I U.

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<v Speaker 3>I do not believe. Well, I get to the ballot.

0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:17.120
<v Speaker 3>They have the money, I don't you know, and we'll see. Yeah,

0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:19.840
<v Speaker 3>this is uh, there's.

0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:21.600
<v Speaker 4>A lot of leverage in this. I think he's got

0:32:21.600 --> 0:32:23.960
<v Speaker 4>three ballot initiatives. This is by the way, someone said

0:32:24.000 --> 0:32:25.040
<v Speaker 4>to me, you need to veto this.

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:28.000
<v Speaker 3>I said, well, I can't because it's not legislators. And

0:32:28.000 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 3>by the way, legislature is.

0:32:28.960 --> 0:32:32.160
<v Speaker 4>Not promoting this. This is an individual with money and

0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:33.200
<v Speaker 4>I had someone.

0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:35.880
<v Speaker 3>You'll appreciate this true story. He was a zoom with

0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:37.240
<v Speaker 3>munch of fancy folks.

0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:40.920
<v Speaker 4>And he outraged, we've got to reform this direct democracy.

0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:43.920
<v Speaker 4>Anyone can get some of the ballot. I said, just

0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:45.480
<v Speaker 4>like you got the recall in the ballot.

0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:50.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. He dropped off the.

0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:51.920
<v Speaker 2>Scring And by the way, you go a long way

0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:53.880
<v Speaker 2>back with a lot of these fancy folks, like how

0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:57.320
<v Speaker 2>do you talk to them about leaving the state, And

0:32:57.440 --> 0:33:00.320
<v Speaker 2>do they reckon with the inequality and the tax code

0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:02.200
<v Speaker 2>and the need for them at some level.

0:33:01.960 --> 0:33:02.640
<v Speaker 3>To pay more. Yeah.

0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:06.440
<v Speaker 4>Look, I mean there's some extraordinarily enlightened people in that category,

0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:09.600
<v Speaker 4>and there's some that they put a mask.

0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:10.600
<v Speaker 3>On and their faces growing into it.

0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:12.400
<v Speaker 2>And by the way, let me just be more specific,

0:33:12.400 --> 0:33:15.440
<v Speaker 2>what do you tell Sergey when he says I'm moving

0:33:15.480 --> 0:33:16.920
<v Speaker 2>to Incline or to Reno.

0:33:18.440 --> 0:33:19.760
<v Speaker 3>Are you disappointed by Yeah?

0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:22.600
<v Speaker 4>Of course, I mean, but obviously I think they're disappointing

0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:24.960
<v Speaker 4>in some respect as well. I mean, there's just a

0:33:24.960 --> 0:33:31.120
<v Speaker 4>lot of anxiety out there. And look, you know, I

0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:35.800
<v Speaker 4>believe in a progressive tax system. I've championed a progressive

0:33:35.840 --> 0:33:40.440
<v Speaker 4>tax system. I've defended it formally and informally, and will

0:33:40.480 --> 0:33:44.520
<v Speaker 4>continue to And I do believe this economy is broken,

0:33:44.880 --> 0:33:47.320
<v Speaker 4>and I do believe there is a reason there are

0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:49.960
<v Speaker 4>a lot of Bernie supporters that are also Trump supporters,

0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:52.720
<v Speaker 4>a lot of Trump supporters that are also Bernie Sander supporters,

0:33:53.160 --> 0:33:57.400
<v Speaker 4>And that is something we should absorb and understand, and

0:33:57.440 --> 0:34:00.240
<v Speaker 4>so I am not defending the status quo binding stretch

0:34:00.280 --> 0:34:03.160
<v Speaker 4>of the imagination. In fact, our entire agendas around growth

0:34:03.200 --> 0:34:06.560
<v Speaker 4>and inclusion. That's why we do have a minimum wage

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:09.680
<v Speaker 4>of twenty dollars, but not at Walmart, but at fast

0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:13.040
<v Speaker 4>food restaurants. That's why we do have a twenty five

0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:18.200
<v Speaker 4>dollars minimum wage, hiascination for healthcare workers. No other stake

0:34:18.200 --> 0:34:20.480
<v Speaker 4>can like claim to that. In fact, twenty states have

0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:24.200
<v Speaker 4>minimum waged. It's seven dollars and twenty five cents still

0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:25.800
<v Speaker 4>today in this country.

0:34:25.960 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 3>That's madness.

0:34:27.800 --> 0:34:29.759
<v Speaker 4>That's why we did the earn income task credits, why

0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:33.000
<v Speaker 4>I increase paid family leave, That's why I increase paid sickly.

0:34:33.080 --> 0:34:35.799
<v Speaker 4>That's why we've done a brand new grade preschool for all.

0:34:35.800 --> 0:34:38.640
<v Speaker 4>That's why we've done historic expansions for childcare. That's why

0:34:38.640 --> 0:34:42.040
<v Speaker 4>we're doing more in healthcare, the largest healthcare expansion.

0:34:41.719 --> 0:34:42.320
<v Speaker 3>In the country.

0:34:42.320 --> 0:34:45.120
<v Speaker 4>That is also putting pressure on our Medicaid budget, there's

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 4>no question about that. To absorb and offset that anxiety

0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:53.759
<v Speaker 4>and stress. But I do think this is unfortunate and

0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:58.440
<v Speaker 4>we'll you know, continue to make a case for alternative stress.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, thank you, Governor. Let's take a few question from

0:35:00.800 --> 0:35:03.480
<v Speaker 2>the audience. There's two microphones. Please stay your name and

0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:04.080
<v Speaker 2>your affilition.

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<v Speaker 6>Sure.

0:35:04.600 --> 0:35:07.839
<v Speaker 7>Lily Jamali with BBC News, Nice to see everybody on

0:35:07.920 --> 0:35:10.800
<v Speaker 7>the billionaire tax proposal. I just wondered if you have

0:35:11.440 --> 0:35:15.080
<v Speaker 7>actually engaged with any of the billionaires who have threatened

0:35:15.360 --> 0:35:18.759
<v Speaker 7>or have left for months, and what have those conversations

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:19.479
<v Speaker 7>been like to can you.

0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:23.640
<v Speaker 4>Give us species as you would suggest this is to me,

0:35:23.680 --> 0:35:26.759
<v Speaker 4>it's so it's just become a story, even though for

0:35:26.800 --> 0:35:29.120
<v Speaker 4>me it's an issue we've been tackling for five or

0:35:29.160 --> 0:35:32.759
<v Speaker 4>six months, and now it's become it's just interesting to

0:35:32.800 --> 0:35:35.000
<v Speaker 4>me for so many different reasons. So yeah, no, I

0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:38.440
<v Speaker 4>I've engaged with the proponent of it directly indirectly. My

0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:45.520
<v Speaker 4>staff consistently is working with the person that's championing this.

0:35:46.440 --> 0:35:49.800
<v Speaker 4>I've met with people that feel they're being attacked because

0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:52.400
<v Speaker 4>of it, people that have no problem paying more income tax,

0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:56.760
<v Speaker 4>people that literally are giving away all of their money

0:35:56.800 --> 0:35:59.680
<v Speaker 4>but want to do it on the timeline that their

0:35:59.719 --> 0:36:04.920
<v Speaker 4>family is approved, not this individual's timeline. People that are

0:36:04.920 --> 0:36:07.240
<v Speaker 4>concerned about losing control of their company.

0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:13.239
<v Speaker 3>Because of the unique characteristics of their cash situation.

0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:16.200
<v Speaker 4>Yes, I've met with all of them, and they're all

0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:25.040
<v Speaker 4>in different stages of their lives, careers and their abundance.

0:36:26.000 --> 0:36:29.440
<v Speaker 4>And some will never give a penny away. Some I respect,

0:36:29.520 --> 0:36:32.319
<v Speaker 4>some I don't, so I never have. But I've met

0:36:32.360 --> 0:36:34.520
<v Speaker 4>with those as well. Proof point one of the people

0:36:34.520 --> 0:36:37.360
<v Speaker 4>that was out there promoting my recal. Yet I still

0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:41.200
<v Speaker 4>reached out and met with those folks because I'm very

0:36:41.239 --> 0:36:44.879
<v Speaker 4>mindful as a guy who budgets for this state that

0:36:44.960 --> 0:36:47.560
<v Speaker 4>we rely on a very small number of people that

0:36:47.640 --> 0:36:48.640
<v Speaker 4>allows us to do.

0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:52.160
<v Speaker 3>Historic things.

0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:55.040
<v Speaker 4>For example, with behavior health, which is probably one of

0:36:55.040 --> 0:37:00.640
<v Speaker 4>the most exciting stories that has been under reported in California,

0:37:00.680 --> 0:37:03.400
<v Speaker 4>the investments we're making to reform our behavioral system.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a connection.

0:37:04.400 --> 0:37:07.440
<v Speaker 4>And by the way, that's a literal connection because we

0:37:07.480 --> 0:37:10.399
<v Speaker 4>have a millionaire's tax that also funds our Mental Health

0:37:10.400 --> 0:37:14.279
<v Speaker 4>Services Act, and it provides an abundance of resources and

0:37:14.320 --> 0:37:18.600
<v Speaker 4>investments in a spacey.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, Governor Jeremy.

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<v Speaker 6>Webbers of Blio, thanks for taking my question. Mayor Matt

0:37:23.760 --> 0:37:26.480
<v Speaker 6>Mayheon of San Jose is not running for governor, guy

0:37:26.520 --> 0:37:30.799
<v Speaker 6>who's criticized elected Democrats in the state and you specifically,

0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:33.920
<v Speaker 6>I'm wondering how you feel about a Democrat running to

0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:36.520
<v Speaker 6>succeed you, seemingly running a campaign.

0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:38.759
<v Speaker 3>I don't know enough about him. I don't good I

0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:39.600
<v Speaker 3>wish him good luck.

0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:43.880
<v Speaker 2>He said you've jumped blindly into Memeland.

0:37:44.040 --> 0:37:45.240
<v Speaker 3>I believe was a quote.

0:37:46.520 --> 0:37:49.120
<v Speaker 4>Well, I've tried to put a mirror up, don't I

0:37:49.120 --> 0:37:50.000
<v Speaker 4>don't know that quote.

0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:52.279
<v Speaker 3>Uh. I think it's been.

0:37:52.160 --> 0:37:55.440
<v Speaker 4>Important what we've done, put a mirror up to the

0:37:55.480 --> 0:37:56.560
<v Speaker 4>advererrant behavior.

0:37:56.280 --> 0:37:57.680
<v Speaker 3>Of Donald Trump. Do you think, man, it's done a

0:37:57.680 --> 0:37:59.279
<v Speaker 3>good job in tan Jose And.

0:37:59.280 --> 0:38:01.440
<v Speaker 4>I think part of putting a mirror up to that

0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:05.719
<v Speaker 4>avant behavior has allowed me to drive a conversation that

0:38:05.719 --> 0:38:09.480
<v Speaker 4>I couldn't drive in the past. And it's a conversation

0:38:09.760 --> 0:38:14.319
<v Speaker 4>that is style, undoubtedly, but also substance. Fifty three lawsuits,

0:38:15.400 --> 0:38:20.640
<v Speaker 4>wildly successful in that space. Organizing with other governors strategies

0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:23.160
<v Speaker 4>to not just defend ourselves but go on the offense.

0:38:23.280 --> 0:38:25.840
<v Speaker 4>Let me give you an example, the West Coast offense

0:38:26.880 --> 0:38:31.320
<v Speaker 4>with governors of other Western states for Healthcare Reproductive.

0:38:30.640 --> 0:38:32.759
<v Speaker 3>Freedom Alliance that we've organized.

0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:36.880
<v Speaker 4>Our engagement with a WHO was meeting with the president

0:38:36.920 --> 0:38:38.520
<v Speaker 4>of the WHO and Davos.

0:38:38.560 --> 0:38:39.279
<v Speaker 3>We saw JB.

0:38:39.400 --> 0:38:42.359
<v Speaker 4>Pritzker, entering that the work we're doing coordinating with other

0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:46.640
<v Speaker 4>ags on strategies related to what's happening and occurring today

0:38:47.040 --> 0:38:47.680
<v Speaker 4>in many.

0:38:47.680 --> 0:38:49.120
<v Speaker 3>Minneapolis and Minnesota.

0:38:49.440 --> 0:38:52.200
<v Speaker 4>The fact that we're working directly with Governor Walt's office

0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:55.560
<v Speaker 4>on a Meeks briest related to their litigation strategies, all

0:38:55.600 --> 0:38:58.560
<v Speaker 4>of that's part and parcel of the approach that we've taken.

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<v Speaker 8>Hi, my name is stri Mupitie. I'm a reporter at

0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:07.440
<v Speaker 8>the Information at cover AI. My question is do you

0:39:07.440 --> 0:39:09.640
<v Speaker 8>think we're in AI bubble and how do you foresee

0:39:09.680 --> 0:39:12.840
<v Speaker 8>this playing out? Last night I reported that in video,

0:39:13.200 --> 0:39:17.400
<v Speaker 8>Microsoft and Amazon are investing up to sixty billion in

0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:19.839
<v Speaker 8>Opening Eye, And so I'm curious about sort of all

0:39:19.880 --> 0:39:22.759
<v Speaker 8>these inter linked circular deals and what do you mean?

0:39:22.920 --> 0:39:24.879
<v Speaker 2>And by the way, an amendment, because it's a great question.

0:39:24.960 --> 0:39:27.399
<v Speaker 2>What would it mean for California if we are and the.

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<v Speaker 4>Budget We're mindful of that. It's why we're in our

0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:35.239
<v Speaker 4>January budget. The real show of our budget will be

0:39:35.280 --> 0:39:37.560
<v Speaker 4>made because of the abundance of this moment. I mean

0:39:37.600 --> 0:39:40.040
<v Speaker 4>I just satry December numbers which went through the roof

0:39:40.080 --> 0:39:43.319
<v Speaker 4>our January numbers. We're in a very different place than

0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:44.920
<v Speaker 4>we were just literally a few weeks ago when we

0:39:44.960 --> 0:39:47.400
<v Speaker 4>announced our budget because the nature of the capital gains

0:39:47.400 --> 0:39:50.319
<v Speaker 4>and the income tax revenue. Because of this moment, look,

0:39:50.360 --> 0:39:52.240
<v Speaker 4>it was interesting. I was on so many different panels.

0:39:52.280 --> 0:39:54.680
<v Speaker 4>I participated in these closed conversations around the issue of

0:39:54.680 --> 0:39:58.080
<v Speaker 4>AI and surprisingly overseas. But of course that's what we

0:39:58.120 --> 0:40:00.640
<v Speaker 4>all do here, seeing that an hourly basis not any

0:40:00.719 --> 0:40:02.239
<v Speaker 4>daily basis, and the interactions we have.

0:40:02.320 --> 0:40:03.800
<v Speaker 3>Are we in a bubble? Are we not in a bubble?

0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:07.000
<v Speaker 4>And everyone's perspective by Larry Fink had his version of no,

0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:10.920
<v Speaker 4>we're not, and others would suggest that we are. But

0:40:11.320 --> 0:40:13.600
<v Speaker 4>the end of the day, the boom bust will lead

0:40:13.640 --> 0:40:17.399
<v Speaker 4>to this sort of infrastructure, this new platform that will

0:40:17.480 --> 0:40:20.520
<v Speaker 4>change everything in more ways on more days and fundamentally.

0:40:20.640 --> 0:40:22.680
<v Speaker 4>On the other side of that is a little bit

0:40:22.719 --> 0:40:23.600
<v Speaker 4>more optimism.

0:40:23.640 --> 0:40:25.560
<v Speaker 3>But in the short term the situation soho, there'll be

0:40:25.600 --> 0:40:26.440
<v Speaker 3>winners and losers.

0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:29.719
<v Speaker 4>To your point, we are the beneficiary, the country is

0:40:29.719 --> 0:40:32.959
<v Speaker 4>the beneficiary. You saw outperforming consumer spending is a relates

0:40:33.000 --> 0:40:34.360
<v Speaker 4>to GDP in this country. I mean, this is the

0:40:34.400 --> 0:40:36.960
<v Speaker 4>only thing Donald Trump has going for him right now

0:40:37.239 --> 0:40:41.440
<v Speaker 4>personally too, because the crony capitalism, the seth deally that

0:40:41.520 --> 0:40:44.080
<v Speaker 4>he's doing in this space, the crypto in the AI space.

0:40:44.160 --> 0:40:47.839
<v Speaker 3>But it's a really exciting and livening time.

0:40:47.880 --> 0:40:50.080
<v Speaker 4>California, as you know, is the first state to lead

0:40:50.160 --> 0:40:53.840
<v Speaker 4>in terms of doing regulations for frontier.

0:40:53.400 --> 0:40:56.120
<v Speaker 3>Models, large language models. We work through that over a

0:40:56.160 --> 0:40:58.439
<v Speaker 3>two year process. It's become we think.

0:40:59.000 --> 0:41:02.640
<v Speaker 4>I don't want to overstate it, but Kathy Hockel mirrored

0:41:02.800 --> 0:41:03.879
<v Speaker 4>a lot of what we did.

0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:06.160
<v Speaker 3>She made it our own in New York. In some ways,

0:41:06.200 --> 0:41:08.720
<v Speaker 3>it may have the tenants of becoming a national model.

0:41:09.040 --> 0:41:10.320
<v Speaker 3>We take it very seriously.

0:41:10.760 --> 0:41:14.480
<v Speaker 4>Truth, trust, peril, promise, but I don't see it in

0:41:14.520 --> 0:41:18.600
<v Speaker 4>binary terms. I'm not an accelerist, nor am I doomer

0:41:19.239 --> 0:41:21.880
<v Speaker 4>in this respect. And maybe it's because I spend too

0:41:21.960 --> 0:41:24.960
<v Speaker 4>much time with all of the flavors of perspectives on this,

0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:26.320
<v Speaker 4>so I can see the contours.

0:41:26.360 --> 0:41:27.960
<v Speaker 3>But I also know this, we don't know what we

0:41:28.000 --> 0:41:28.400
<v Speaker 3>don't know.

0:41:29.360 --> 0:41:31.800
<v Speaker 4>But I do see the need for us to address

0:41:31.840 --> 0:41:34.560
<v Speaker 4>the issue of anxiety in a deep and profound way.

0:41:34.600 --> 0:41:36.840
<v Speaker 4>And that's why we've been leading an effort which we

0:41:36.880 --> 0:41:40.680
<v Speaker 4>hope to unveil very shortly on UBC not universal basic

0:41:40.760 --> 0:41:43.640
<v Speaker 4>income income in the old construct. But this notion of

0:41:44.120 --> 0:41:47.600
<v Speaker 4>universal basic capital, a lot of folks talking about sovereign

0:41:47.680 --> 0:41:50.080
<v Speaker 4>wealth funds more challenging.

0:41:49.640 --> 0:41:52.160
<v Speaker 3>Than it appears to do. That. I've been working to

0:41:52.200 --> 0:41:53.640
<v Speaker 3>try to figure a version of that out.

0:41:53.960 --> 0:41:59.040
<v Speaker 4>But universally basic capital is important predistribution strategies, not just

0:41:59.120 --> 0:42:03.440
<v Speaker 4>redistribution strung tenants and aspects for the California economy. Your

0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:06.880
<v Speaker 4>question that we're trying to shape more on that, We

0:42:06.960 --> 0:42:11.320
<v Speaker 4>hope in May and June of this year as we

0:42:11.760 --> 0:42:15.560
<v Speaker 4>lay out some tracks for resolving some of that anxiety

0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:16.399
<v Speaker 4>going trying to get.

0:42:16.280 --> 0:42:16.759
<v Speaker 3>To two more.

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<v Speaker 9>Hi, Governor, thanks for taking our questions. You and the

0:42:22.040 --> 0:42:26.239
<v Speaker 9>Attorney General released guidance this week saying that state and

0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:34.160
<v Speaker 9>local law law enforcement have the authority to investigate violations

0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:37.880
<v Speaker 9>of state law by federal officers. And there's also a

0:42:37.920 --> 0:42:42.200
<v Speaker 9>proposal in the legislature this year that would require the

0:42:42.239 --> 0:42:47.480
<v Speaker 9>state attorney general to investigate shootings by federal officers. So

0:42:48.200 --> 0:42:50.440
<v Speaker 9>do you think that that should be a mandate and

0:42:50.520 --> 0:42:55.000
<v Speaker 9>should it be the responsibility of state law enforcement.

0:42:54.680 --> 0:42:57.480
<v Speaker 4>Or Well, we have great partnerships, you know, I've been

0:42:57.560 --> 0:42:59.839
<v Speaker 4>very proud we worked with the legislature did some.

0:43:00.239 --> 0:43:00.799
<v Speaker 3>Never been done.

0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:04.839
<v Speaker 4>In California, we provided state grants for prosecution two hundred

0:43:04.840 --> 0:43:07.600
<v Speaker 4>and sixty seven million dollars to fifty five laa's local

0:43:07.960 --> 0:43:13.760
<v Speaker 4>law enforcement agencies for investigations and prosecution. So we believe

0:43:13.880 --> 0:43:16.800
<v Speaker 4>you know, localism is determinative. It relates to local independent

0:43:16.840 --> 0:43:20.480
<v Speaker 4>district attorneys. There's obviously role of our Department of Justice

0:43:20.600 --> 0:43:23.480
<v Speaker 4>ag level, but needs to be determined on the basis

0:43:23.480 --> 0:43:24.840
<v Speaker 4>of the facts on the ground.

0:43:24.840 --> 0:43:26.239
<v Speaker 3>Your question as it relates.

0:43:25.920 --> 0:43:30.920
<v Speaker 4>To legislation, as you know well, tend not to opine

0:43:31.239 --> 0:43:35.600
<v Speaker 4>about penning legislation in real process as that process unfolds.

0:43:36.160 --> 0:43:39.200
<v Speaker 4>But I appreciate you referencing something that I'm not sure

0:43:39.239 --> 0:43:41.680
<v Speaker 4>many states have done of any And that was the

0:43:41.719 --> 0:43:45.280
<v Speaker 4>guidance we put out in partnership with the ag reminding

0:43:45.360 --> 0:43:49.080
<v Speaker 4>local days and local law enforcement officials of their authority

0:43:49.400 --> 0:43:52.640
<v Speaker 4>vested in them understate law to move forward with prosecutions.

0:43:52.719 --> 0:43:56.040
<v Speaker 4>It's limited in scope. We're not naive about federal rules

0:43:56.040 --> 0:43:59.160
<v Speaker 4>and preemption. By the way, that's being tested in the courts.

0:43:59.200 --> 0:44:03.600
<v Speaker 4>I signed the first in the country on unmasking for

0:44:03.680 --> 0:44:07.480
<v Speaker 4>federal agencies for federal agents, which is also part of

0:44:07.520 --> 0:44:09.560
<v Speaker 4>the discussion of whether or not we have a government shutdown,

0:44:10.640 --> 0:44:14.799
<v Speaker 4>and I think it's an important one. I think they

0:44:14.800 --> 0:44:17.160
<v Speaker 4>should take the masks off. You want to build trust,

0:44:17.680 --> 0:44:21.360
<v Speaker 4>you want to build sense of community. Again, this idea

0:44:21.400 --> 0:44:24.120
<v Speaker 4>that we have a private police force that seems to

0:44:24.120 --> 0:44:24.920
<v Speaker 4>have taken an oath.

0:44:24.760 --> 0:44:26.759
<v Speaker 3>Of office to the president, not the constitution.

0:44:27.800 --> 0:44:30.719
<v Speaker 4>This paramilitary outfit scares the hell out of me, and

0:44:30.760 --> 0:44:33.120
<v Speaker 4>I imagine scares the hell out of you and sure

0:44:33.120 --> 0:44:35.640
<v Speaker 4>as hell as communities on edge all across this country.

0:44:36.560 --> 0:44:39.680
<v Speaker 4>Unmasking would be one of the primary reforms we should

0:44:39.640 --> 0:44:40.359
<v Speaker 4>avange one more.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Ellie Kamasher with Bloomberg. Good to see you again.

0:44:44.120 --> 0:44:46.959
<v Speaker 1>A couple of other pieces of legislation. One would ban

0:44:47.840 --> 0:44:52.800
<v Speaker 1>ice officials from applying or getting California public employee jobs.

0:44:52.880 --> 0:44:57.279
<v Speaker 1>Another one would tax immigration to centers in California. So

0:44:57.640 --> 0:44:59.600
<v Speaker 1>wondering if you support any of those or what is

0:44:59.680 --> 0:45:01.239
<v Speaker 1>kind of your constructive proposals.

0:45:01.320 --> 0:45:03.320
<v Speaker 4>We've looked at that, and we've looked at that before

0:45:03.320 --> 0:45:08.480
<v Speaker 4>the legislative proposal, and we've looked through I don't want

0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:12.759
<v Speaker 4>to get I'm now literally seeing my legal memo in

0:45:12.760 --> 0:45:16.600
<v Speaker 4>my mind on the proposal. I want to be careful

0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:19.759
<v Speaker 4>not to opine on that, but it is pending. It's

0:45:19.760 --> 0:45:22.960
<v Speaker 4>something we had already considered, and we'll see where the

0:45:23.040 --> 0:45:26.480
<v Speaker 4>legislation lays out. But there are some legal parameters that

0:45:26.560 --> 0:45:28.200
<v Speaker 4>have to be worked through on both of those.

0:45:28.560 --> 0:45:29.880
<v Speaker 3>Before I let you go Governor.

0:45:30.040 --> 0:45:31.480
<v Speaker 2>At the beginning of next year, you will be a

0:45:31.520 --> 0:45:33.480
<v Speaker 2>fifty nine year old, unemployed man.

0:45:34.480 --> 0:45:38.960
<v Speaker 3>Jennifer, there's nothing. Yeah, that's not even middle age. That's

0:45:39.000 --> 0:45:40.399
<v Speaker 3>the other side of middle age.

0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:43.480
<v Speaker 2>So what any plans for twenty twenty seven.

0:45:44.760 --> 0:45:47.280
<v Speaker 4>I'm just so hurt by your question. I'm so struck

0:45:47.320 --> 0:45:47.640
<v Speaker 4>by it.

0:45:48.120 --> 0:45:49.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I believe it's fact.

0:45:49.719 --> 0:45:52.319
<v Speaker 4>I know I'm a milk carton with a sell by date,

0:45:52.400 --> 0:45:56.280
<v Speaker 4>and it's that's that's why all these questions about who's

0:45:56.320 --> 0:46:00.000
<v Speaker 4>next and all that are uncomfortable. And let me apologie

0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:03.879
<v Speaker 4>us to Jerry Brown and for all the little things

0:46:03.960 --> 0:46:06.800
<v Speaker 4>I said and did when I was sitting there chopping

0:46:06.840 --> 0:46:09.920
<v Speaker 4>at his knees and feet and uh and uh and

0:46:10.280 --> 0:46:12.200
<v Speaker 4>working to get in his office.

0:46:12.920 --> 0:46:14.120
<v Speaker 3>But this has been a privilege.

0:46:14.239 --> 0:46:15.680
<v Speaker 4>And I'm going to run one hundred and ten yard

0:46:15.719 --> 0:46:20.239
<v Speaker 4>dash and if anyone sees evidence that I'm not, I

0:46:20.280 --> 0:46:21.759
<v Speaker 4>got some work to do. But I think there's plenty

0:46:21.760 --> 0:46:24.879
<v Speaker 4>of evidence that I am. You know, I've got an Okay,

0:46:24.920 --> 0:46:28.160
<v Speaker 4>our process that's well established, that's the bane of existing.

0:46:28.320 --> 0:46:31.160
<v Speaker 4>All my poor department heads and you know you can

0:46:31.200 --> 0:46:33.040
<v Speaker 4>you can see what we got quarter by quarter and

0:46:33.880 --> 0:46:35.279
<v Speaker 4>uh and all the work we want to do to

0:46:35.280 --> 0:46:38.720
<v Speaker 4>finish the job and and and navigating this treacherous environment.

0:46:38.719 --> 0:46:40.560
<v Speaker 4>I want to be held to a higher level of accountability.

0:46:40.600 --> 0:46:42.560
<v Speaker 4>I know some people say, well, just you know, not

0:46:42.640 --> 0:46:45.479
<v Speaker 4>your job to get out in front talk about the way.

0:46:45.440 --> 0:46:48.520
<v Speaker 3>The world is and should be. I think it is

0:46:48.560 --> 0:46:48.960
<v Speaker 3>my job.

0:46:49.000 --> 0:46:51.799
<v Speaker 4>I have a moral authority that I need to bring

0:46:51.960 --> 0:46:54.280
<v Speaker 4>to this conversation, not just a formal role of governor

0:46:54.320 --> 0:46:57.960
<v Speaker 4>of California, but also represent the state or twenty seven

0:46:57.960 --> 0:47:01.319
<v Speaker 4>percent of US are for and born size of twenty

0:47:01.320 --> 0:47:05.280
<v Speaker 4>one state populations combined. We're global state. We're an international

0:47:05.320 --> 0:47:07.879
<v Speaker 4>I mean, we are a universal state in every way,

0:47:07.880 --> 0:47:12.560
<v Speaker 4>shape or form. What's happening around the globe impacts California

0:47:12.640 --> 0:47:15.120
<v Speaker 4>disproportionately number one and two way trade, number one in

0:47:15.160 --> 0:47:17.360
<v Speaker 4>direct foreign investment. Look at the ports, forty percent of

0:47:17.440 --> 0:47:19.799
<v Speaker 4>the goods movement down in LA and Long Beach. All

0:47:19.800 --> 0:47:23.160
<v Speaker 4>of this directly impacts US, and I think anyone running

0:47:23.160 --> 0:47:25.840
<v Speaker 4>for governor and auditioning for governor needs.

0:47:25.640 --> 0:47:27.560
<v Speaker 3>To be reminded of that as well. It's a big

0:47:27.600 --> 0:47:28.520
<v Speaker 3>part of the job.

0:47:28.600 --> 0:47:31.880
<v Speaker 4>En Roll asked farmers as the ranchers whose tax burden

0:47:31.920 --> 0:47:34.800
<v Speaker 4>has gotten worse, not better since Donald Trump has become president.

0:47:35.200 --> 0:47:37.960
<v Speaker 4>With these regressive taxes and tariffs, and the trade policies

0:47:38.480 --> 0:47:41.919
<v Speaker 4>and all the dams we've done globally overseas, these are

0:47:41.960 --> 0:47:44.799
<v Speaker 4>direct issues, and so it's really important, I think. And

0:47:44.840 --> 0:47:50.239
<v Speaker 4>so that's my mindset, and we'll see where fate brings things.

0:47:50.280 --> 0:47:52.239
<v Speaker 4>One thing I am, and this is important too.

0:47:53.000 --> 0:47:54.279
<v Speaker 3>I'm also a small business guy.

0:47:54.440 --> 0:47:57.960
<v Speaker 4>And most of you don't know that or don't care,

0:47:59.040 --> 0:48:00.720
<v Speaker 4>but I started right out a colleg pen of paper.

0:48:00.960 --> 0:48:04.200
<v Speaker 4>One part time employee, Pat Kelly, started about twenty one

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<v Speaker 4>small businesses, restaurants, hotels, and wineries at peak about a

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<v Speaker 4>thousand folks. Not saying that to impress anybody, but to

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<v Speaker 4>press upon you a passionate entrepreneur. You know when people

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<v Speaker 4>start Democrats don't understand p and ls, and I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>spare me, spare me, live and breathe this. It's been

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<v Speaker 4>in a blind trust, it's been frustrating, not that it

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<v Speaker 4>matters anymore. I should be out here promoting, in fact,

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<v Speaker 4>the business the way the president is operating. I am

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<v Speaker 4>promoting my Patriot shop, which has the knee pads available,

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<v Speaker 4>and maybe even a clone that we may be working on.

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<v Speaker 4>That smells like success at least that's well, that's Trump's colonne.

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<v Speaker 3>Forgive me that he's hawking.

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<v Speaker 4>But I have a few identities, but public service is

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<v Speaker 4>the most precious and no matter what happens, that that

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<v Speaker 4>is never going to escape me. And that just may

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<v Speaker 4>be me out there volunteering and working with Jen and

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<v Speaker 4>her nonprofit on gender equality, or may manifest differently.

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<v Speaker 3>Who knows. Governor, Thank you for joining us. It's good

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<v Speaker 3>to be with you. Thank you much