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Speaker 1: a Friday, Super Bowl Sunday.

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Speaker 1: We're in Los Angeles. It is The Herd. Wherever you

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Speaker 1: may be, however you may be watching. Thanks for making

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Speaker 1: us part of your day. We had a very good year.

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Speaker 1: I was very fortunate hit about sixty percent of my

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Speaker 1: NFL picks, fifty nine to sixty percent of the NFL picks,

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Speaker 1: and then I picked them the first weekend of the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: and after that, you know, I just kind of I

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Speaker 1: shut the blazing five down. But in this game, and

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Speaker 1: this happens all the time during a season, I have

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Speaker 1: an initial reaction, and then over the course of a week,

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Speaker 1: there can be injuries, there can be storylines, and then

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Speaker 1: you start deep diving. On Thursday Friday, and Thursday night

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Speaker 1: is the night that I spend some time kind of

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Speaker 1: deep diving on stuff, and all week long, I've said

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Speaker 1: low scoring. I'm taking the points. I think it's very

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Speaker 1: twenty four to twenty one ish. But there is a

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Speaker 1: stat and a theme that I can't get passed, and

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Speaker 1: it benefits Seattle. I want you to think about this.

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Speaker 1: In a division. Seattle was in a division where they

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Speaker 1: had to face Christian McCaffrey, the best running back in

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Speaker 1: the league, just pure talent, and Kyle Shanahan probably the

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Speaker 2: They had to face them three times.

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Speaker 1: They also had to face McVeigh Hiaran Williams in the

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Speaker 1: substantial rams run game three times. So Seattle had six

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Speaker 1: games against McVeigh and Shanahan in those run games. Yet

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Speaker 1: Seattle led the NFL the entire league infuest yards per attempt.

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Speaker 1: I can't get past that. Meaning Drake May is going

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Speaker 1: to have to throw the ball thirty five times or more,

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Speaker 1: twenty three years old for Super Bowl. Do you know

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Speaker 1: what his career record is when he attempts thirty five

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Speaker 1: passes or more? It's one in seven. Big Ben's for

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, Brady's for Super Bowl. Mahomes first Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I think Josh McDaniels the offensive coordinator for New England,

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Speaker 1: and it's certainly something he could do. Is going to

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Speaker 1: have to call a perfect game. I believe there'll be

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Speaker 1: a lot of screening, a lot of eight ten screens.

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Speaker 2: There has to be.

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Speaker 1: You cannot ask Drake May against this defense with that

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Speaker 1: old line of New England to drop back thirty seven

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Speaker 2: They'll get crushed, They'll get rolled. I can't get past that.

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Speaker 1: Seattle facing elite run games regularly, fewest yards per rush

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Speaker 1: in the league. I think New England needs a touchdown

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Speaker 1: on defense and a perfect game plan called by Josh McDaniel.

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Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick likes New England and I get his reasoning too.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 3: He is.

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Speaker 4: The longer. This thing is the game. They're going to

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Speaker 4: shorten the game. On offense, Ramondre Stevenson is gonna have

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Speaker 4: a ton of carries. Josh McDaniels is the X factor

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Speaker 4: in this game. He's been in a bunch of these.

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Speaker 4: Drake May has a calmness about him. When Josh is

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Speaker 4: calling the place, He's gonna put him in good situations.

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Speaker 2: I think the New England Patriots are gonna win this game.

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Speaker 1: I think that reasoning is sound. But my question is,

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Speaker 2: Punt punk, punt, punt. So here is my Super Bowl pick,

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Speaker 2: Seahawks versus Patriots.

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Speaker 1: New England's played eleven games this season against teams that

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Speaker 1: eventually fired their coach, so it's not that they played

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Speaker 1: average teams. New England built up a lot of their

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Speaker 2: I think he's going to have to do.

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Speaker 1: He's won in seven and he is the most sacked

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Speaker 1: one to the Rams. They're ten to zero best in

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Speaker 1: Here can New England force two? Their defense allows three

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Speaker 2: I can't get past that.

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Speaker 1: Drake May is going to have to play a nearly

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Speaker 1: I don't think you can bubble screen Seattle to death.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to take the Seahawks to win close. I

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Speaker 1: I just again, Greg comes on Thursdays, and I thought

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Speaker 1: Sell on the day before my Blazing five picks. He

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Speaker 3: They have tremendous versatility with their back end players, which

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Speaker 3: allows them to do multiple things from a coverage and

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Speaker 3: a pressure standpoint. Do they feel they need to help Campbell?

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Speaker 3: it'll be interesting to see how the Patriots handle that.

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Speaker 1: I just now J mack will make his pick in

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Speaker 1: two hours, little less than two hours. But I went

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Speaker 1: down last night and I went and looked at Brady

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Speaker 1: Mahomes and Big Ben's first Super Bowl star.

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Speaker 2: Number one.

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Speaker 1: The second thing I looked at is Seattle's run defense

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Speaker 1: New England's not in that class. So again, I think

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Speaker 1: New England's got some clear edges. Drake may Is, I

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Speaker 1: don't think one of them. I don't think that's one

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Speaker 1: of their edges. I think Vrabel's Super Bowl experience, Josh

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Speaker 2: Is a key here.

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Speaker 1: So you're just your impressions on some of the game

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Speaker 1: I can see, but I just can't get beast the

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Speaker 1: speed and the explosiveness of the Seahawks. Jmac any response.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm with you, Colin. We are in lockstep almost universally.

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Speaker 5: I was just texting one of our staff members was like, Hey,

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Speaker 5: here's a amo to go back at Colin and I'm like,

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Speaker 5: I can't because I agree with them. I mean, look

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Speaker 5: at the three playoff games, right, the Patriots runoffense. It

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Speaker 5: so they just relied on the run game. They don't

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Speaker 5: want to trust Drake May because they had the lead.

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Speaker 5: I think Seattle gets the lead here and kind of

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Speaker 5: chokes them out. I don't see this game being close call.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I will say this. You don't call that a

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Speaker 5: You got to save it for the big spots, like

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Speaker 5: the Eagles over the Chiefs last year in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: That was a big spot.

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Speaker 1: Well, he is impossible not to root for unless your

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Speaker 1: a rival of the Indiana Hoosiers.

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Speaker 2: Fernando Mendoza.

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Speaker 1: You know about the Heisman Trophy and you know about

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Speaker 1: the remarkable Indiana story. He originally out of Miami, committed

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Speaker 1: this kid is different. And then I started going on

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Speaker 1: YouTube and watching the Cow games and it's like this,

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Speaker 1: And Fernando Mendoza has been kind enough to join us

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Speaker 1: it's just you're such a neat story and very true

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Speaker 1: to your personality. Fernando, When was the first time that

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Speaker 1: you thought to yourself, because you're a real humble kid,

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Speaker 1: but you thought to yourself, maybe after a game, you

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Speaker 1: know what, I may be able to play on Sundays.

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Speaker 2: I think I can play maybe pro football. Was that

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 2: When was that first moment?

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Speaker 9: Well, first of all, miss Scout, I really appreciate how

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Speaker 9: I don't think I'm in the same sense as Andrew Luck.

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Speaker 9: I'm still a long way to go. But I was

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Speaker 9: a very raw prospect and I know I needed to

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Speaker 9: I took the jump to join Signettia Co to try

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Speaker 9: to get my footwork right. I need a whole nother

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Speaker 9: skill set to even think about the NFL. And I

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Speaker 9: would say mid a year, when we played Oregon at

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Speaker 9: Austin Stadium and came back, I was like, Wow, maybe hey,

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Speaker 9: may you.

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Speaker 2: Can play in the NFL.

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Speaker 9: And then the whole month of December we have here

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Speaker 9: at the Ohio State clip Rowland and the playoffs. I

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Speaker 9: was like, Okay, I think I'm confident enough to take

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Speaker 9: this next step, to take this next leap and bet

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Speaker 9: on myself and declare for the NFL Draft this year.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting though you went to Cal.

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Speaker 1: You didn't play with a lot of five star players,

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Speaker 1: and you know, you lost some games. But I talked

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Speaker 1: his toughness. You guys all talk about his arm and

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Speaker 1: Do you Is there a professional quarterback at any part

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Speaker 2: And I think that really helped my efficiency this year. Listen,

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Speaker 1: You know it's your personality is very infectious and it's

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Speaker 9: know appliability, be able to you know, work on my

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Speaker 9: core and maintain and strength for this pre draft process,

441
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Speaker 9: as I know how important it is, and I need

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Speaker 9: to give this eight weeks and honestly this entire year

443
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Speaker 9: my all.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm starting to really like Kurt Signettes's crankiness.

445
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Speaker 1: That makes me laugh. That is Signetti times. I'm starting

446
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Speaker 1: to really an endearing quality. Get out of my facility, kid. Hey, rats,

447
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Speaker 1: can't wait to watch it play in the NFL. There's

448
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Speaker 1: just it's You're an easy guy to root for. And

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Speaker 1: thank you for taking fifteen minutes for our show.

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Speaker 9: Thanks so much, God bless you guys. I appreciate it again.

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Speaker 1: All right, Fernando Mendoza, Yeah, I mean I said this.

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Speaker 1: If you look at quarterbacks in the NFL where they

453
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Speaker 1: went to college. You know, obviously Matt Stafford goes to

454
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Speaker 1: Georgia and you have Sam Darnold USC. I think he's

455
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Speaker 1: the first USC quarterback in a Super Bowl. I think

456
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of quarterbacks in this league. Philip Rivers,

457
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Speaker 1: North Carolina State, Eli Manning, Ole miss Aaron Rodgers, Jared Goff,

458
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Speaker 1: Cal Big Ben Miami of Ohio. There's a lot of

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Speaker 1: I mean, Joe Flacco's journey and I Matt Ryan and

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Speaker 1: I've had this theory for years is that it should

461
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Speaker 1: be like, well, you're number one, you go to Alabama,

462
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Speaker 1: then you star in the NFL. No, that's not a

463
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Speaker 1: real experience. A real experience for a quarterback is cal

464
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Speaker 1: to Indiana, that you get hit and that your receivers

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Speaker 1: aren't wide open. Look at how many great quarterbacks don't

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Speaker 1: come from traditional powers. Even this Indiana team didn't have

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Speaker 1: a lot of five star guys. Miami, did you think

468
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks should always be like from Bama Texas.

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Speaker 2: They're not.

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Speaker 1: They're so often from smaller schools where you have to

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Speaker 1: elevate three star guys. So I think those col years

472
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Speaker 1: for him. I mean, YouTube them, go back and look,

473
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Speaker 1: you don't have a lot of time to throw at

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Speaker 1: cal and he's not throwing the five star guys.

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Speaker 6: You know, Colin.

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Speaker 5: We got a lot of guys coming on the show

477
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Speaker 5: do interviews. A lot of them are coached up. They

478
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Speaker 5: don't want to give any bulletin board material. I feel

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Speaker 5: like what you just heard from Mendoza was one authenticity,

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Speaker 5: Like every single thing he said, he felt it like,

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Speaker 5: he felt genuine, like a real good human being, Like

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Speaker 5: the kind of guy if your daughter brings him home,

483
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Speaker 5: you're like, this is a nice guy.

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Speaker 6: If he came here in one of my job and

485
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Speaker 6: took it, I would to be like angry at the world.

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Speaker 2: That's a good dude that's been taken under consideration.

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Speaker 6: He's just a good guy, like I'd like him.

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Speaker 1: Somebody said this the other day. They may have said

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Speaker 1: this on the air, or they may have said it

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Speaker 1: off I don't remember where I heard this, but somebody

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Speaker 1: said something that was very interesting that I think it

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Speaker 1: may have been Jordan Palmer, is that the one thing

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Speaker 1: you can't be to succeed at quarterback is a chameleon.

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Speaker 1: You can't be a guy that comes into the locker

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Speaker 1: room as a quarterback and you're just a different guy

496
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Speaker 1: every day. You've got to be true to you, even

497
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Speaker 1: if some say it's cringey.

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Speaker 2: You have to be true to you.

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady was like overly optimistic first day. Last day,

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Speaker 1: you'd be like, nobody's that optimistic, and then you have

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Speaker 1: Tom on my show. Now that's who Tom is, right, Like,

502
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Speaker 1: this kid's personality, this is who he is. He doesn't

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Speaker 1: care if you think it's cringy. It's totally true to him.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of that's from his parents. Yep,

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Speaker 1: he's got a lot of self belief. But he's just

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Speaker 1: a good kid. J Mack with the News, No, no.

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Speaker 7: This is the herd Line News.

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Speaker 5: All right, Colin, we're gonna start with, oh oh wow,

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Speaker 5: they actually didn't send me these scripts for the news.

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Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 6: Should we go to break and come back or should

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Speaker 6: we just do Jalen Hurson, All right, let we go.

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Speaker 6: Doug Peterson.

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Speaker 5: Doug Peterson was on an airplane recently, Colin, and he

515
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Speaker 5: took to the intercom to defend his quarterback.

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Speaker 6: Jalen Hurts, take a listen, to this.

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Speaker 2: We drafted Jalen Hurts for a reason, and we saw

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Speaker 2: something in.

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Speaker 10: Jalen Hurts that we felt like he was going to

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Speaker 10: be the starter at some point.

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Speaker 2: He was going to be the franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 1: At some point.

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Speaker 10: You look at the success of what the Eagles have

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Speaker 10: had over the course of the last really since he started.

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Speaker 10: They've won a Super Bowl, they've been in another Super Bowl,

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Speaker 10: They've been to many playoff games, They've won a ton

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Speaker 10: of football games, and every year they've had a different

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Speaker 10: offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 2: Was he piloting the plane.

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Speaker 5: No, he's doing some one of these Super Bowl week

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Speaker 5: deals and he's.

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Speaker 6: Defending his quarterback.

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Speaker 5: So this was kind of a gimmick, but it felt

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Speaker 5: on like real that he was defending Hurts as if

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Speaker 5: Hurts is under fire.

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Speaker 6: You said you heard some stuff this week, an I.

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Speaker 1: Think Jalen's very and not all pro athletes are one

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Speaker 1: of the guys. Jalen's his own guy. He is not

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Speaker 1: he is. I've been told he's not that popular among players.

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Speaker 1: He's a bit of loof. He's his old guy. And

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Speaker 1: I'll say this, I don't think you have to hang

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Speaker 1: with everybody. I again, certain guys get along with everybody

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Speaker 1: I've heard. Jalen's kind of his old guy. It can

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Speaker 1: be a little off putting to some, but his intangibles,

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Speaker 1: like his toughness. I do think his ability to play

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Speaker 1: poorly and win. It's not just personnel. He's not a guy.

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Speaker 1: And the other thing about Jalen and I felt this

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Speaker 1: not as much this year, but in previous years, he

549
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Speaker 1: almost feels dinged up to me. He's dealt with a

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Speaker 1: lot of injuries. I think he has pretty high pain tolerance.

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Speaker 1: I think he's played hurt a lot. Well, you said,

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Speaker 1: the thing is Tom Brady. The real Tom Brady.

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Speaker 5: First day, last day, hurts is going to the podium

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Speaker 5: with a briefcase. You say he speaks in fortune cookie language,

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Speaker 5: you know, at the podium. Sometimes I don't know how

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Speaker 5: that goes over. I'm going to continue to defend him

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Speaker 5: until I get more evidence than it's he's not the

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Speaker 5: right guy.

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Speaker 6: But I mean again, he's been to two Super Bowls. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: he's performed really well in both SUBA.

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, he has made big throws and big

562
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Speaker 1: plays in the largest of games.

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Speaker 2: So he deserves credit.

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Speaker 5: All right, let's go to a backup quarterback, Mac Jones

565
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Speaker 5: no longer called Macenroe Jones after a tremendous season backing

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Speaker 5: up Rock Pirty eight starts went five and three, and

567
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Speaker 5: suddenly it's like he's a hot commodity.

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Speaker 6: Do we want him? Well, Mac believes.

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Speaker 5: He's proven himself and he like it has come back

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Speaker 5: to that of Sam Darnold.

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Speaker 11: Everyone's journey is so different, and I feel like I've

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Speaker 11: watched him in the interviews this UF and he he

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Speaker 11: does say that San Francisco and learning from Kyle and

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Speaker 11: Brocks really changed his career, and I see why now,

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Speaker 11: Like I learned so.

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Speaker 2: Much this year. And I've obviously been coached by.

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Speaker 11: Some great coaches and I know a lot and I've

578
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Speaker 11: learned a lot, but I really learned a lot this year.

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Speaker 11: I know Sam probably felt the same way, and you

580
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Speaker 11: can see it.

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Speaker 2: On the tape. There's a lot of crossover.

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Speaker 11: We run the same offense, and there's other examples out there,

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Speaker 11: Baker and everybody.

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Speaker 2: So it's definitely motivating for me.

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Speaker 11: I feel like I can get back and do that

586
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Speaker 11: and I have my swag back, and I feel like

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Speaker 11: that's important to me and I can go out there

588
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Speaker 11: and win games for whoever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: The Niners are either going to have one of the

591
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Speaker 1: best backup quarterbacks in the league. I think if brought pretty.

592
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Speaker 1: He's been dinged up a few times. I think that's

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Speaker 1: probably why San Francisco would be reluctant to move him,

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Speaker 1: because Perty's had a lot of little, not nagging stuff

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Speaker 1: to just stuff that knocks you out for three or

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Speaker 1: four weeks. But I you know the offense. I think

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Speaker 1: Purdy's mobility augments this offense.

598
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Speaker 2: More than Mack can do it. But Mack was good

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Speaker 2: with him, very good. He was very good with him.

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Speaker 5: Do you entertain a deal for him if you're the Niners, Like,

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Speaker 5: what if Arizona's willing to give you an early second

602
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Speaker 5: round pick and they want Mac to be their quarterback,

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Speaker 5: he would be in the devis.

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Speaker 1: I would not give him up early in the season.

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Speaker 1: I would want Arizona to have some losses. Don't want

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Speaker 1: Mac to go to Arizona prepare and take some our

607
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Speaker 1: trade secrets. So it's one thing if Arizona's one and

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Speaker 1: six and we've already played him once and hammered him,

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Speaker 1: and we play him one week after the trade deadline,

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Speaker 1: and so Mac doesn't have six weeks to prepare for US.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's all timing.

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Speaker 5: About the Browns out of conference. I mean I don't

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Speaker 5: know that the Browns.

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Speaker 2: Would I mean, do they have money.

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Speaker 6: That's a good point.

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Speaker 5: But if I'm the Niners, I would hold out for

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Speaker 5: a first round pick. I don't think you're gonna get that,

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Speaker 5: but I would at least hold out, like you said,

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Speaker 5: otherwise you got a good backup to brock Berdy. Quarterbacks

620
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Speaker 5: are dropping like fries flies around this thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, mid second, maybe a mid third, a third and

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Speaker 1: a sixth maybe.

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Speaker 2: I think he's you know, he did make a Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 5: Would you take a third and a six when you

625
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Speaker 5: see what Sam Darnald just did.

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Speaker 6: He's in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: He is not as athletic as Sam. He doesn't have

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Speaker 1: the arm strength of Sam. He's not even close athletically.

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Speaker 1: This wait, what is he ninety percent of Sam Donald athletically?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 1: No, just overall as a quarterback, Sam's different. Sam's bigger, stronger,

632
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Speaker 1: better arm, better athlete. It's I don't think it's particularly close.

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Speaker 6: Oh, okay, final story, Let's go to the NBA.

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Speaker 5: Everybody was waiting for that Yanni's trade Colin. It didn't happen.

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Speaker 5: And then Yannis of course did what every kid does,

636
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Speaker 5: goes on social media and posted legends don't chase, they

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Speaker 5: attract boy and he added the clip from Wolf of

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Speaker 5: Wall Street where Leonardo DiCaprio announces I'm not leaving and

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Speaker 5: then a bunch of f BOMs. It's an awesome scene.

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Speaker 5: I think this is kind of week from Yannis Colin.

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Speaker 5: He's acting like, I'm not going anywhere, I'm gonna attract people.

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Speaker 6: What is he what's he talking about?

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Speaker 2: Well, he wants to We don't know exactly.

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Speaker 1: Sham's was telling us it was gonna happen, and I

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Speaker 1: think our take was at thirty one, still not healthy,

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Speaker 1: multiple injuries. I don't necessarily think. I do think he

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Speaker 1: would meet make the Knicks better, but again, you're he

648
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Speaker 1: would make them better now, but the Knicks are good

649
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Speaker 1: enough now to make the finals, and you'd be giving

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Speaker 1: up what four first round picks. Remember, Jalen Brunson not

651
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Speaker 1: only has Yannis aged, and he's not a perimeter player.

652
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Speaker 1: He needs the ball well, Jalen Brunson does. Jalen Brunson

653
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Speaker 1: plays a lot of minutes and is a smaller player.

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Speaker 1: Do we know that Jalen Brunson in four years with

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Speaker 1: the wear and tear on his body, Jalen Brunson has

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Speaker 1: the ball in his hands, creating contact a smaller.

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Speaker 2: Guy like I.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you go for Jannis because you think now

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Speaker 1: you can win titles, But boy, you are giving up

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Speaker 1: the future in New York's the one that's got stuff.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if I ran the Milwaukee Bucks, the

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Speaker 1: Knicks have stuff I want. I'll take o G Josh

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Speaker 1: hart and three picks.

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Speaker 2: I like that.

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Speaker 1: Lakers don't have anything I else. Warriors don't have anything

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Speaker 1: I want. Miami's Donet has anything I want. The Knicks

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Speaker 1: have stuff I'll take as a as a glue guy.

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Speaker 1: Josh hart Og is a high end start. Nicks have stuff.

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Speaker 5: Ye. So again, we talked briefly about this earlier in

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Speaker 5: the week, but now that Giannis would get traded in

671
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Speaker 5: the summer, the team to watch is the LA Lakers. Colin,

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Speaker 5: I know people don't want to hear that. What don't

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Speaker 5: you say They've got like ninety mili coming.

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Speaker 2: Off the books.

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Speaker 6: You saw Austin Reeves last night.

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Speaker 5: Thirty five points off the bench, look like an alpha,

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Speaker 5: look like a one.

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Speaker 6: Or two Okay, fine, he's probably a two.

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Speaker 5: But if you're the Bucks, you don't want any bad

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Speaker 5: contracts and you want picks. The Lakers will have three

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Speaker 5: or four first round picks to offer, plus Austin Reeves.

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Speaker 5: I'm just saying that's the beginning of a trade, and

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Speaker 5: then you get Luca and Jannis.

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Speaker 1: For the record, if Luca and Jannis are together, those

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Speaker 1: are late first round picks.

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Speaker 5: Yes, and say the same with any picks from the

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Speaker 5: Knicks or whoever. I mean, by the way, that Warrior's

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Speaker 5: offer was laughable. The Bucks did not entertain it. I'm

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Speaker 5: just saying, you know, the Lakers new ownership with the

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Speaker 5: guys from the Dodgers, they go big game hunting Luca

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Speaker 5: and Yannis.

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Speaker 6: Is that appointment television or what?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be. I'm not denying that. J Mack

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Speaker 2: with a news, Well.

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Speaker 7: That's the news, and thanks for stopping by the Herd

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Speaker 7: Line News.

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Speaker 1: If you say it, people will go whoa pump the brakes.

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Speaker 1: But now somebody with credibility is saying it, and I

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Speaker 1: don't think he's wrong.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about that next.

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Speaker 7: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 1: You know you, sometimes somebody will say something projecting and

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Speaker 1: everybody goes, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. I can

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Speaker 1: remember saying I think Cooper Flag's going to be better

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Speaker 1: than Jason Tatum because I think he's much better defensively,

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Speaker 1: and I think he's much more aggressive. And I think

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Speaker 1: most of the great players in league history, your MJ's,

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Speaker 1: your Kobe's, they're really aggressive player Larry Bird, Magic Johnson.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Brian Windhorst said yesterday he thinks Cooper Flag

716
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Speaker 1: people in the league think he could be better than Luca. Well,

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Speaker 1: he's already much better defensively than Luca, and that's a

718
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Speaker 1: good twenty five to thirty five percent of the games.

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Speaker 1: He's just a much better defensive player. But he just

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Speaker 1: last night had his fourth straight game over thirty. And

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Speaker 1: this kid's remarkable player. When I watch him, I see

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Speaker 1: sort of that MJ. Kobe Larry Bird intensity. For a

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Speaker 1: nineteen year old to be this aggressive, you just don't

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Speaker 1: get that.

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, there's a lot of guys that

727
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Speaker 1: come into this league and blow you away. Jahn Morant,

728
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: John Morant has now what they call negative trade value,

729
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Speaker 1: where people won't trade for him, like you have to

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Speaker 1: give us stuff like picks to take his contract. He's

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Speaker 1: been so immature, battled coaches. That's other things Windhorst has reported.

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Speaker 1: And then there's guys like LaMelo Ball that are fun,

733
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Speaker 1: but you don't think of them as champce Bean chhip players.

734
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Speaker 1: They're fun, they're flashy. It kind of feels thin. You know,

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Speaker 1: this kid's game to me, has it really does. It

736
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Speaker 1: feels like it's got some of that mama mentality, which

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Speaker 1: is not just work ethic. He is in a hyper aggressive,

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Speaker 1: tough player that likes contact, that demands the ball. That

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Speaker 1: is remarkable, And there's so many layers to his game.

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Speaker 1: He can play point guard, he's got floaters, he attacks

741
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Speaker 1: the rim, he can be a slasher. He's just like

742
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Speaker 1: layers and layers. I said this the other day, It's

743
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Speaker 1: like a. It's like a European game when a European

744
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Speaker 1: comes in here and they're like twenty years old, but

745
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Speaker 1: they're games like that of a twenty eight year old.

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Speaker 1: This stuff is very unique. And here's Cooper Flag on

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Speaker 1: his current hot streak.

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Speaker 12: It gives me a lot of confidence, you know, honestly,

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Speaker 12: because you know it doesn't really change much. You know,

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Speaker 12: I'm just gonna go out there every night and try

751
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Speaker 12: to be consistent and trying to be the best version

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Speaker 12: of myself and whatever that looks like. Cleoever you know

753
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Speaker 12: is out there with me. You know, I hope just

754
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Speaker 12: compete at a really high level.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds weird if we'd have said this

756
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Speaker 1: before he played in the NBA, to say, what if

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Speaker 1: he's better than Jason Tatum at the trade deadline of

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Speaker 1: his rookie year, that would sound ridiculous. And it's like,

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Speaker 1: whatever the gap is between Tatum and Cooper Flag, it's

760
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Speaker 1: not much, I'm telling you. I mean that left hand

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Speaker 1: he uses effectively wards off the defense. I mean it

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Speaker 1: the gap between me and Tatum. And there was some

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Speaker 1: pushback when p Oh, You're putting a lot of pressure

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Speaker 1: on him. The all time grades don't care about pressure.

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Speaker 1: You know, remember James Worthy there, there was the Michael

766
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Speaker 1: Jordan documentary right the Last Dance, and James Worthy was

767
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Speaker 1: maybe the best player in college basketball at the time,

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Speaker 1: and he said when Michael Jordan got to Carolina, he

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Speaker 1: was better than Michael. And then after about you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I forgot if it was six

771
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Speaker 1: games or six practices, He's like, no, Michael's better than me.

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Speaker 1: So greatness flourishes very quickly, like Tiger Woods was raw,

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Speaker 1: he was good, he was great, he was the best,

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Speaker 1: and it happened fast. So this is a really remarkable player.

775
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Speaker 1: And again I do worry about there's they call it

776
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Speaker 1: the rookie wall because you know, you pay thirty five

777
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Speaker 1: forty five games in college and you don't have to

778
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Speaker 1: play that kind of defense, that intense defense in the NBA.

779
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: You got a defender, you'll get eaten alive.

780
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Speaker 2: So I mean, is he going to.

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Speaker 1: Hit the wall after about fifty five games. That's very possible.

782
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: But I mean you're watching something here that you just

783
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: don't you don't see very often. Max Crosby the Raiders

784
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,439
Speaker 1: and Jmax super Bowl pick in the final hour, can't

785
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: wait for that Fernando Mendoza was just on and we

786
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: were talking about like toughness and there's just things you

787
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 1: can't necessarily coach, you know. There's there's I remember years

788
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: ago talking to a GM about a rookie quarterback and

789
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Speaker 1: the GM said when he shook his hand, when he

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00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: shook his hand after they drafted him, and he's like,

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Speaker 1: he didn't have a firm grip, and he goes, just,

792
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Speaker 1: I wonder, did we draft the right guy in this quarterback?

793
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Speaker 1: This rookie quarterback did not end up being a great player.

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Speaker 1: And he's like the NBA or the NFL, the practices

795
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Speaker 1: are hard, and you're gonna be tested in camp by

796
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Speaker 1: all these veteran players. Even your teammates are gonna test you.

797
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Speaker 1: So I asked Fernando Mendoza, like, this kid plays better

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Speaker 1: with a bloody lip.

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Speaker 2: Where's the toughness come from it? Cuz or not want

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Speaker 2: to let my teammates down.

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Speaker 9: And I always trust my offensive lineman and I know

802
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Speaker 9: that if I sit in the pocket and I deliver

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Speaker 9: a strike, not only is it gonna deflate the defense,

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Speaker 9: it's all's gonna inspire my team. Wow, Fernato could get

805
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Speaker 9: back up and deliver the next play. Oh, that's somebody

806
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Speaker 9: we want to play with. That's somebody want to play for.

807
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Speaker 9: You're gonna get roughed up, so what cry about it?

808
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Speaker 9: But you're gonna need to be able to deliver in

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Speaker 9: the big moments, like they say, money down, third down,

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Speaker 9: and more than that fourth down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's it's hard not to let you

812
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Speaker 1: have a smile on your face. He just, yeah, cry

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Speaker 1: about it.

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Speaker 6: He doesn't sound like any of the guys we interview you.

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Speaker 5: How many guys have been on the show this week,

816
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Speaker 5: Christian McCaffrey, all these dudes, he doesn't sound like.

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Speaker 6: Any of them. Totally different, right.

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Speaker 5: Maybe it's because he's a young college guy, but he

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Speaker 5: just sounds real and ja there.

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Speaker 1: I mean you you watch on the internet everybody's you know,

821
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Speaker 1: selling your protein bars and telling you how to live

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Speaker 1: longer and do this and don't do that. And of

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Speaker 1: all the messages I've been told through the years by

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Speaker 1: any you know, all these experts, and the one that

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Speaker 1: always rings true in my life that is gratitude. Are

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Speaker 1: you great? Because life is going to kick you right

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Speaker 1: in the groin. It doesn't matter what you do. You're

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Speaker 1: you could be the best looking person all through life,

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Speaker 1: and you become an actor. You're only getting about if

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Speaker 1: you're if you're a star, you're getting turned down eighty

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Speaker 1: percent of the time. Right, Like, so life, no matter

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Speaker 1: if you get good genetics, you're big, you're strong, you're beautiful,

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Speaker 1: you're brilliant, life knocks you back. That's why you have

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Speaker 1: to be grateful for the good times because the bad

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Speaker 1: times are coming. And what gets you through those bad

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Speaker 1: times is being grateful for the good times and be like, listen,

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Speaker 1: when things are good, they don't stay good. It's not linear.

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Speaker 1: I mean, go look, go look at Tom Brady. You're

839
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Speaker 1: gonna get hurt, you're gonna miss time, you're gonna get

840
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Speaker 1: blown out, you're gonna get beat by Nick Foles in

841
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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. You're gonna play perfectly in a Super

842
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Speaker 1: Bowl and lose against Philadelphia. I mean they weren't punting.

843
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Speaker 1: So you just you have to be grateful for the

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Speaker 1: good times because bad time. I tell my kids all

845
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Speaker 1: the time. And it's not like a unique message. Life's

846
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Speaker 1: not about action as much as it is reaction. How

847
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Speaker 1: do you react to bad days? Because you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: about three a week, right, You're gonna have three a week,

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Speaker 1: I mean, hopefully only three a month. I mean you

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Speaker 1: were wearing the double earrings in the bars in New York. No,

851
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Speaker 1: you didn't have bad days.

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Speaker 6: I had plenty.

853
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Speaker 2: And it's how do you react to stuff?

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Speaker 1: And that kid's personality seems to me he's going to

855
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 1: be just fine through the lean years. And the Raiders

856
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: have had some lean years. A couple, just a few,

857
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Speaker 1: just a few. Max Crosby in the final hour on

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Speaker 1: a Friday and J Max super Bowl pick