1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm George Ori, and welcome to the new I 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast, a paranormal podcast network. 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: Like us on Facebook, Tell your friends and share us 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: with everyone. This is an exciting new network that will 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: feature podcasts of the paranormal, supernatural, and the unexplained. Now, 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: please sit back and enjoy Dark Becomes Light with Heidi Hollis. 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: The thoughts and opinions expressed by the host our thoughts 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: and opinions only, and do not necessarily reflect those of 9 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: I Heart Media, I Heart Radio, Coast to Coast a 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: out employees of premier networks or their sponsors and associates. 11 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: You are encouraged to do the proper amount of research yourself, 12 00:00:40,760 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: depending on the subject matter and your needs. You are 13 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: listening to Dark Becomes Light with Me, Heidi Hollis on 14 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast AM paranormal 15 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: podcast at work. Welcome to my show. Remember each week 16 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: you can always come here to listen to a lot 17 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: of the stories that people like you and myself are 18 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: experiencing in the world, from angels to aliens, shadow people 19 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: to hat man, from holy to the unholy. I welcome you, 20 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: the listener to go to my main website, which is 21 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: Heidi Hollis dot com and write as much detail as 22 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: you'd like about whatever it is that you're experiencing, or 23 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: if you'd like to be a guest on this program 24 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: to share your experiences or some of your research, or 25 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: just comments about anything out there. I welcome it. The 26 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: more the merrier, and uh, it's absolutely fascinating to me. 27 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: We're always growing, aren't we? In this world. There is 28 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: nothing that is absolutely definitive. No one has all of 29 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: the answers, and if anybody says they do, run in 30 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: the opposite direction because it's not real. So I am 31 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: here to be a sounding board. I'm here to take 32 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: it in just like you. And yes, I've written a 33 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 1: lot of books on a lot of different topics. I'm 34 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: also a comic strip artist, so I do a paranormal 35 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: comic strip. I welcome you to go and check out. 36 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: It's called the Outlanders. I've been doing it for some time, 37 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: and uh, if you like Bigfoot, if you like aliens, 38 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: if you like ghosts, check it out. So just go 39 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 1: to Outlanders Comics dot com and enjoy. I will never 40 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: stop doing that. It's all I ever wanted to be 41 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: was a comic strip artist and look, I mean, now, 42 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: WHOA my goodness, I don't know. It's one of those 43 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: things like m I really enjoy what I do. Some 44 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: people don't always get it, and that's just fine by me. 45 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: But I also say, this life is not my own. 46 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,839 Speaker 1: I know. I'm here to try to help others get 47 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: comfortable with themselves when it comes to stranger topics and 48 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: overcoming it, just taking it on, not sitting by idly, 49 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: and just getting comfortable with things if they're assaulting you, 50 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: and of course embracing your spiritual side, your faith side, 51 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: and being able to know that you're okay. If you 52 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: have a different opinion, it's okay. I call myself Christian 53 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: because that's how I believe. Others and my good friends 54 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: have so many varieties of faith and beliefs, and guess 55 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: what we get along just fine. It's okay we can 56 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: have our biased opinions. But do we have to hate 57 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: on each other because of it? I think enough bloodshed 58 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: has been done over the years in regards to faith 59 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: and religion, don't you Well, you all feel were correct, 60 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: and I stand by mine. But I try not to 61 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: bash people for what they believe to be true for themselves. 62 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: And that is true when it comes to even alien abductions. 63 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: Like a lot of people feel they're alien is good 64 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: even though they've abused them and whatnot. I personally know 65 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: I don't believe that, but I try not to bash 66 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: people for believing that for themselves. Hey, if it's something 67 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: that you believe is okay for you, I say, go 68 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: for it. Um. But it is hard, isn't it hard? 69 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: Like I'm sitting here going through my own bias, going, oh, 70 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: but they're demons, and people are like, oh boy, here 71 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: we go with the demon stuff. When it comes to aliens, Well, 72 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: they can walk through walls and they don't like the 73 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: name of Jesus much and let's see here. So yeah, 74 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: I've got my biased opinions about it. And then I 75 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: know that connection between shadow people, hat Man and the 76 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: agenda of some of these more negative beings. So it's 77 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: really it gets hard, man, It gets hard. We have 78 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 1: our opinions, and I'm doing my best to try to 79 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 1: steer people to overcome the more negative things, to move 80 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: past it, grow and get comfortable, because we shouldn't be 81 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: afraid to go to sleep at night and fear of 82 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: something coming and grabbing you or your children out of 83 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: your bed and doing awful things to you. And because 84 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: you get used to it, is it positive. I don't 85 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: think so, But I also know there are some positive 86 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: aliens out there, just not the abducting ones. But again, 87 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 1: that's my opinion. So it's like, yeah, I have that 88 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: people have theirs, and it's helping me to get to 89 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: this topic I want to talk about today because I 90 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: get a lot of conversations and chat messages and emails 91 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,679 Speaker 1: where people will say to me, well, are you sure 92 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: that what it is that the shadow people are doing 93 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: it's all negative because the shadow beings I've seen, you know, 94 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: they're not negative. I'm like, well, what makes you say 95 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: they're not negative? Well, they and scare me. Oh well 96 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 1: that's great, good for you, it didn't scare you. Um, 97 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: some of us don't like to see big black masses 98 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: with glowing red eyes coming around choking people. So that's 99 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: my opinion. Um. So you know when people tell me that, 100 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: oh gosh, those guys seem rather neutral. You know, they're 101 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: just doing their own thing. And I was doing my 102 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: own thing and they didn't harm me, they didn't scare me. 103 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: So I don't see anything that's really negative about what 104 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: it is that they're doing. But one thing when it 105 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: comes to these negative things, these beings, they can be 106 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: really patient if you're a tough customer, to get through 107 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: and break through and to abuse you the way that 108 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: they want to. So they'll take their time. They will 109 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: take their time. So they might be scoping you out, 110 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: or they weren't even looking your direction. Perhaps you just 111 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: caught them eyeballing somebody else's soul. Uh so, uh yeah, 112 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: when it comes to these outright demonic things, I am 113 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: highly biased and I'll call it out for what it is. 114 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: And again some people are like, well, you know, I'm 115 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: good with them. They don't bother me any and I 116 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: worry for them because I know the progressive state these 117 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: types of sightings can be. So you see them at 118 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: step one poking their heads around the corner, and I've 119 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: seen a lot of videos of that, like, well, well, 120 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: what was that poked his head around the corner? Well, 121 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: if it's poking its head around the corner like that, 122 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: it's not usually a shadow being, although people will take 123 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: it as that those are little alien things using hoods 124 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: that they have on their heads. Shadow beings don't need 125 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: to poke around a corner because they could poke through 126 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: the corner if they really wanted to. Um. So yeah, 127 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: and especially when they're short, those are those are aliens. 128 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: Those are not shadow beings. But because they're absent of 129 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: light or shadowed in general, people will say that's a 130 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: shadow being. No, um, yeah, and and and that's just 131 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: my understandings from research. And I have been doing this 132 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: forever twenty years. People when it comes to just the 133 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: topic of shadow people, they're like, what, how could you 134 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: have been doing this that long? Well, I mean, that's 135 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: how long it took to spread around the world for 136 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: me to put word out there. And uh, you're welcome. 137 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: It's been It's been quite a challenge, but um it's 138 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: one that I'm proud to say that I took on 139 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: and was able to conquer and informing people. But I 140 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: still often get emails of people saying I thought I 141 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 1: was the only one. And uh, you know, here's another 142 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: question I get oftentimes people are like, well, how do 143 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: you know that people just didn't see your image and 144 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: they got it ingrained in their head and this is 145 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: why they're seeing or experiencing shadow people or the hat man. 146 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: And I'm like, because it's quite usually the opposite. The 147 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: person suddenly feels like, well, let me do search on 148 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: this topic, and lo and behold, they come across shadow 149 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: people hat man and then they contact me. So it's 150 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: been quite an interesting turn of events for myself over 151 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: the years to see this pattern happen again and again. 152 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: It is not the other way around. I'm not impressing 153 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: this upon people. People are shocked to see they're not alone. 154 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 1: Another common question I tend to get that I wanted 155 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: to address here today. A lot of people are like, well, 156 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: aren't shadow people just ghosts? And I'm like, nope, nope, 157 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: And they're like, well, how can you tell the difference? Well, 158 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 1: shadow people don't have a very definitive shape to them 159 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: when it comes to being human looking. So shadow people 160 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: head and shoulder shadow being it looks like a big, 161 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: hulking like, rounded shouldered like type of creature with its 162 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: head directly connected to its shoulders, and it's kind of rounded, 163 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: and you don't make out feet or legs usually or 164 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 1: even arms for that matter. And sometimes they'll show their 165 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: disgusting glowing red eyes, not always, so those are the 166 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: shadow people in their normal sense and stance. And then 167 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 1: then there is these little like shadow rodents, shadow clouds, 168 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: shadow streaks, or you think a back out, loosen your 169 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: place or something. You're like, what is going on here? 170 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: Did I just see a bat? You know? Or a 171 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: big black bug? And and they're just absence of light 172 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: and it's like such a strange thing to see and 173 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: it just makes no sense because you know, you saw something. 174 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: It could be in your peripheral vision or straight on 175 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: and it's always just so bizarre, like that just doesn't 176 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 1: belong in my home. I don't know what that was. So, yeah, 177 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: they're not people, but I will tell you this, there 178 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: are ghosts where you do see more of distinctive shape 179 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: like a person, and you get this different kind of vibe. 180 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: Like shadow people give you this vibe of I think 181 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: my soul is at risk right now. I'm not that 182 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: comfortable all of a sudden. But when it's a person, 183 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: it's more neutral and it does look more like a person. 184 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: Hat man can look very much like a guide standing there. 185 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: He doesn't always wear a hat, but his menacing presence 186 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: if he's looking your way, unmistakable that at him that 187 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: it's not a human being. You can feel that malevolts 188 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: and it's such a strange thing to say. It's like, well, 189 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: how's that possible? How do my cells or my body 190 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: feel anything? Pay attention, you'll feel it. Something in our 191 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: soul just screams, devil run. I don't know what that was. 192 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 1: I gotta get out of here. So yeah, So sometimes 193 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: it can be a ghost but feels a lot more neutral. 194 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: But of hat man and was it look in your way? 195 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: It can also feel neutral too, But if it's just 196 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: a guy standing there with his hands in his pockets 197 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: and it's got a Tredge code or a cape, sometimes 198 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: with a hat, sometimes not probably him. So I hope 199 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: that helps clear things up. And I want to welcome 200 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: you guys once again. Go to Heidi Hollis dot com, 201 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: h E I D I H O, L L I 202 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: S dot com and send me whatever it is that 203 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: you're experiencing out there. 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You are listening to Dark 231 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart 232 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: Radio and Coast to Coast a m ter normal podcast network, 233 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: And as promised, I have a fantastic guest, La mar Zuli. 234 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: What was once taboo is now tabloid, and l A 235 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: has been at the forefront, asking questions, analyzing findings, and 236 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: seeking the truth. L A actively researchers life's mysteries, writing books, 237 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: directing films, and lecturing on topics that help us better 238 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: understand the past, present and future. Everybody round of applause. 239 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: Ellie Marzili, how are you doing today? I'm great? Thanks 240 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: for having me on. Appreciate it. Are you kidding me? 241 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: I am just like so excited to have you on 242 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: this show. Wow. So your amount of work, I can't 243 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: even put it into words. I mean, I guess it's 244 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: always fun to ask people, you know what, what sparked 245 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: your interests to go into the topics that you do 246 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: in general? Well, it really goes back to my first 247 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: mentor with all this. The guy's name was Dr. I. D. E. Thomas, 248 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: and he wrote a book called The Omega Conspiracy and 249 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: what that did when I read it. I probably read 250 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: it in one or two sittings, two sittings at the most, 251 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: the short little book, and it changed my life. I 252 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: mean literally changed my life. Dr Thomas was standing on 253 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: the shoulders of other researchers who came before him, and 254 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: he was talking specifically about the nepheline, the Genesis six Pastors, 255 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: the idea that fallen angels came down and had sex 256 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:10,239 Speaker 1: with earthly weapon and producing a hybrid known as the Nephiline. 257 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: And that's a three hour conversation. We don't have time 258 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: to really peel back all the layers. I mean, that's 259 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: why I've written twelve books on the subject and produce 260 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: of seven films in the Armor Trail of the Nephilim series. 261 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: But I'm always looking for that unified um idea unified 262 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: theory which encompasses all paranormal activity UM, including so called 263 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: ancient aliens and alien abductions, the places like Susy Woman, 264 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: the Great circlemountent Ohio, Um, Joe Garraphaim in Israel, I 265 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: mean everywhere. And I think I've done that. I think 266 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: I think we have found a unified theory which encompasses 267 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: all the phenomenon. And of course because I hold to 268 00:16:55,800 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: a biblical worldview, that's that's why it works, because I 269 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: start there with the fallen angels and move out. But 270 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: it was really Dr Thomas who got me into all this, 271 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: And the first book was published called Nepolum, was published 272 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: by Zander in a subsidiar area HarperCollins, and then we 273 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: did two more, uh follow up. So there's really a 274 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: Nepholent trilogy. It's all fictional work, but it's based on 275 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: all the research. And then from there just mushroom into 276 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: what we have going on today, My goodness, And do 277 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: you you seem to have a common theme, Like you said, 278 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: you kind of work your way out from the biblical standpoint. Uh. 279 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: I'm never try to say on this program I'm Christian. 280 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: It's like, look, you know, we're gonna talk about an 281 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: opposing force like I often talk about demonic things. It's like, 282 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: of course I'm gonna talk about Jesus or something too. 283 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: You know, it's like balance it out. But so your approach, 284 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 1: do you ever get any pushback or static for having 285 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: some of the perspective that you do? You know I do, 286 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: but it's very rare. I mean I think people respect 287 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: um the fact that I am a born against Bardfield Christian. 288 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: I don't run around, you know, quoting Bible versus and 289 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: waving hitting people over the head. But I make my case, 290 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: and I think the films speak for themselves. Raise us 291 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: a local. They thing speaks for itself. The films speak 292 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: for themselves. Um, We're just pointing out what we believe 293 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: is a hidden history that's been deliberately obfuscated from the 294 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 1: peoples of the world. And we do it in all 295 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 1: the books and all the films and pretty much everything 296 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: that we possibly can do. I do a daily radio yeah, 297 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,959 Speaker 1: a daily YouTube show politics Probhacy was supernatural, and we 298 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 1: always are talking about the supernatural. We had a gentleman 299 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: on this this week, Pastor Jeremy Malichu, had an encounter 300 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,959 Speaker 1: with can only be described as a demonic hybrid. I mean, 301 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: this guy was six four or six five, very built, 302 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: very weird, weird clothing, clothes didn't fit quite right. So 303 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: it else has knew how many times have I heard 304 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: that before? And when they of away, the guy pushed 305 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: back his hair revealing total black eyes. Black eyes. Yeah, 306 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 1: and they both Jeremy and son remember this very vividly, 307 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: and it's now five or six years ago. And when 308 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: you have an experience like that, it doesn't go away. 309 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: It lingers it you think about it. I don't want 310 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 1: to use the word haunt, but in some ways it 311 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: does haunt you. Oh yeah, yeah. And I definitely have 312 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: had my share folks writing in or calling in about 313 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: their demonic experiences. When it comes to shadow people or 314 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: hat Man topics that I put out there to the world, 315 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: it's it's it changes a person. And yeah, people say, 316 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: forty years ago, I experienced this thing and I can't 317 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: sleep well at night. I have to sleep with a 318 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: light on. So yeah, that's wild, you know. I I 319 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: have to say too, I haven't had a lot of 320 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: static from people, though I often talk along the Christian 321 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: perspective as well. So it's it's really kind of it 322 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: gives a different kind of hope, you know. So it's 323 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: it's really, uh, really fascinating. Now you also, uh, you 324 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: put out a fabulous film. I really enjoyed it, Fatima 325 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: uh film, and I can't remember here it was a 326 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: Harbor's Deception Harbor d of Deception. Can you tell us 327 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: a little bit about that? Yeah, I've been a student 328 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: of Fatima for years, over twenty years now. When I 329 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: first got wind of it, actually wrote about it in 330 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: Politics Prophecy and with supernatural report or proble. I'm sorry, 331 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: not report, just politic prophecy was supernatural. Uh. And my 332 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 1: the well spring for that came from two people, Fina 333 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: Deermata and Julia Ki Fernandez, who wrote books Celestial Lights, 334 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: and they had a different opinion on the alleged apparition 335 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 1: that appeared um over the Moors in the nineteen seventeen. 336 00:20:55,920 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: So after reading their work again my unified theory, are 337 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: we going back to the biblical narrative. There's no way 338 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: this is marrying the Bible. It's gotta be something else. 339 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: And and the further, I dove down that very strange 340 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: rabbit hole. Uh. And we show this specifically and Fatima 341 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: two strange phenomenon. Uh. It's it's just mind boggling. But 342 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: so for your listeners who have no idea what we're 343 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: talking about, it's nineteen seventeen World War One is ranging. 344 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: The Bolsheviks are taking over the UH, the kicked out 345 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: the Czar and Russia and they're creating what will be 346 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: the U S SR and that will hold true for 347 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: about seventy years, so it just basically falls of its 348 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: own weight, leaving seventy five million people perishing in the 349 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: gulags and other dreadful, horrible, uh tales of of human 350 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: will and suffering under the rule of communism. And we're 351 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: on the fast track in this country. But I digressed. 352 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: So the bottom line is that's that's that's a tenure, 353 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: that that's what's going on in nineteen seventeen, and the 354 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: people in Portugal are freak out and who wouldn't be. 355 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: World War one is raging the communist or taking over. 356 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 1: People wonder whether they're gonna come into the in Europe. 357 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a very very unstable time. A group 358 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 1: of psychics get together and to the occult practice of 359 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: automatic writing. What that is is a person surrenders themselves 360 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: to an outside agency. Uh there're psychic whatever whatever ability 361 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,959 Speaker 1: they have, but they're surrending to themselves to another entity 362 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: who then takes over their hand and begins to write. 363 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: So they got a message. These psychists got a message, 364 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: and basically it said on on May um on May 365 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: I made thirteenth of this year. In nineteen seventeen, something 366 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: wondrous will happen in Portugal. Well, they published it in 367 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: the newspaper. Meanwhile, another group of psychics got the same message. 368 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: You've got two different psychic groups getting the same message. 369 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,959 Speaker 1: They're writing down, automatic writing. They publish this thing. So 370 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: you know, okay, so what so? On May thirteen, something 371 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: wonders did happen. This entity appeared to three children, Uh 372 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: Lucia France, Cisco and just Sina. Lucia, Lucia was was 373 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: it was ten, Francisco nine, just into seven. They're literate shepherds. 374 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 1: They can't read it write. All they've heard is some 375 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: of the gospel stories. They're very poor. They live in 376 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 1: this village way out in the middle of nowhere called 377 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 1: Fatima Fatima, and they have this encounter with this entity 378 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: who tells them to come back at the thirteenth of 379 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: each month, and so they do. And basically the thumbnail sketch. 380 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: We don't have a lot of time, and I can 381 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: go on for an hour on this, which is why 382 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: we made the film. But basically what happens is, uh, 383 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: this continues month after month after months, or you've got 384 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: You've got May, June, July, August. The kids are in quarantine, 385 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: so they they're not allowed to go there there in jail. 386 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 1: Actually September, they go back to magistrate the priest. By 387 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 1: this time the crowds have swelled. Thousands and thousands of 388 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: people were showing up. And the entity, which was female, 389 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: had a short skirt just fell below the kneed, which 390 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: is very atypical for for Europe. And in that time, 391 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 1: women wrote wore long skirts down to the tops of 392 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: their shoes. I mean, you didn't see women walking around 393 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: in many skirts like you do today. Just didn't happen. 394 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: I mean, modest women wore dresses that fell to the 395 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: tops of their shoes. Not even you know today, a 396 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 1: modest dress falling Beloveny didn't happen. Back then, it didn't happen. 397 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: Even prostitutes did more short addresses. So this antonity was 398 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: in a short dress and uh, it's been dressed up 399 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: in Catholic clothes. It was Mary. It was this. Well 400 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 1: the end of the the the children are told to 401 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: ask the entity for a sign, so they do. The 402 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: entity says, yes, there'll be a sign, come back on 403 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:45,479 Speaker 1: October thirte This uh leads to upwards of seventy eight 404 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: people showing up on October thirteen, waiting for the sign. 405 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: So the entity was supposed to show up at noon. 406 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 1: She's an hour late. She shows up at one. Only 407 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: Lucia and and just Sinta could see and hearer. Francisco 408 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: could only see her but not hear her. So it 409 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: just goes off the rails. From that point, the people 410 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 1: who are there see something happen. It's been raining all 411 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: all morning, raining all night all morning. People were drenched. Uh, 412 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: they're closure wet. The ground is wet. All of a sudden, 413 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: the sun comes out the clouds park and then a 414 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: number cloud moves in in front of a sun, and 415 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: from that cloud comes a spinning disc like object. Now 416 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 1: how do we know that, Because we've got lawyers and 417 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: doctors will come on the record and tell us point 418 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: blank that I looked up, I'm quoting. I looked up 419 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: and saw a dull silver disc. Right, and saw a 420 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: dull silver disc. Neventeen The words ufo flying saucer are 421 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: not in the vernacular. It's not there. That will come 422 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: to mid century right right, Well, you know we'll have 423 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: to take a break here and we'll continue this conversation 424 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: in the next segment. 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Reveal. 470 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: You're listening to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast, 471 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: a M paranormal podcast network, heard on the I Heart 472 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you find your favorite shows. 473 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: Welcome back. You are listening to Dark Becomes Light with 474 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: Me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast 475 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: to Coast, a M paranormal podcast network. Just before the break, 476 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: l A. Marzili joined us and wow, we're talking about 477 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: Fatima and some of the things that he uncovered in 478 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: his fabulous film. And you were just describing to us 479 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: when the children of Fatima gathered together? Was it you? 480 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: Don't you say? Seventy to eighty thousand witnesses came together 481 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: and a disc was reported to have been seen versus 482 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: what was generally put out there to the public. Correct. Well, 483 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: the Catholic Church has spun it that it was so 484 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: called miracle of the Son. They've i mean, they've controlled 485 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: in narrative, Fatima is big business. Um, the two the 486 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: two kids, just Sinta and Francisco, have been canonized right 487 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: now saints. Their bodies lay in this very large cathedral. 488 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: People calm and pay homage to them. And but okay, 489 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: you know, and again we say in the film, people 490 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: believe what they want to believe. People want to believe 491 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: that it was a virgin Mary that appeared to the kids. 492 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: Believe it. I'm not gonna argue with you. You believe 493 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: what you want to believe. What what do you go through? 494 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: And then the film. He based the entire film on 495 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: the handwritten testimonies from nineteen seventeen, not stuff that comes 496 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: in ten or twelve years later, not Lucy's or Lucy's 497 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: memoirs from note everything is from nine seventeen, the hand 498 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: written testimony by father Faira. That's that's what we go 499 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: on because that's as closest to the event as we 500 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: can get. People look up, and it's more than one witness. 501 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: I looked up and saw a dull silver desk. So 502 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: the coup of church has unfortunately spun it into this 503 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: miracle of the sun. They said, but the sun came 504 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: down and buzzed the crowd. Well, if it was the 505 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: Sun that actually moved from its position, we'd all be fried, 506 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: first of all, either will be no earth over Earth. 507 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,959 Speaker 1: And it was a local phenomenon. It only happened in 508 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: and around Fatima. People in France didn't see anything, all right. 509 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: People in America didn't see anything. So the Sun didn't move. 510 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: So if it wasn't the Sun, what was it? What 511 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: was it? And that's the whole point of the films. 512 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: It wasn't the Sun. It was a disk like object 513 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: that descended on the crowd. And you've got to remember 514 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: that the people in that field upwards of n had 515 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: never seen any aerial phenomenon at all. Nothing, no airplanes 516 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: over Portugal, nothing, So they're looking at something which might 517 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: be sixty feet in diameter and they're freaked out. And 518 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: it did spin, and it glinted off white, and it 519 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: changed colors. Different people saw different things. And we've we've 520 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: got answers for that. We don't understand why it wasn't 521 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: the sun. In my opinion, it wasn't the Virgin Mary. 522 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: It wasn't Mary of the Bible. It was something else. Uh, 523 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: And there's ancient there was still his ancient goddess worship 524 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: and Fatima in Portugal to the goddess Mora, who presented 525 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: herself as a ductress and then she would turn into 526 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: a serpent and devour the men that would chase her. Uh. 527 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: And there's still serpent cults in northern Portugal, so it's 528 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: very dark. There's a principality that's been there for thousands 529 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,959 Speaker 1: of years. Ever been deposed um The fact that automatic 530 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: writing was used two alert everyone that's in a cult technique. 531 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: We're forbidden to do that because we're contacting basically demonic entities. 532 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: This was not married the Bible, in my opinion, This 533 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: was not the sun. In my opinion, it was in 534 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: fact a UFO event which was then dressed up in 535 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: UH clothes that that would fit a particular narrative. And 536 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: it's been that way ever since. Other people have seen 537 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: some miracles. In fact, we show a clip of some 538 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: miracles at the end of the first film and it's 539 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: just a mind blower. You know, this isn't In other words, 540 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: some so called sun miracles are still happening all over 541 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: the planet. And we've got one from that's not that 542 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: long ago in Knock, Ireland and you can hear the 543 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: absolute hysteria of these people who were witnessing it, just 544 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: total hysteria, pandemonium. So you know, again in the film, 545 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: we say people have a right to believe what they 546 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: want to believe, and we're not going to argue with it. 547 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: All we're doing is presenting what we believe is a 548 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: true account that this was a harbinger of deception. It 549 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: had nothing to do with Mary of the Bible, and 550 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: certainly with Son did not fall to earth and buzzes 551 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: the crowd. It was something else entirely. You know, there's 552 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: always a process trying to move in new realities and understandings. Uh. 553 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: When it comes to individuality, I guess and and and 554 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: and perspective. Uh. And one of the things that I 555 00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: find it's fascinating is how people develop and and get 556 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: it to an understanding where they can express themselves and 557 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: to their family and friends, you know, like you have 558 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: this newer understanding that I think that others have suggested 559 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: that is what was going on, you know, because they 560 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 1: read some of these other accounts, but it didn't quite 561 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: hit the masses to be like, oh, it wasn't a 562 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 1: dancing son, it was a disk. So It's like, how 563 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: do we get to express and explain to the true 564 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: hardcore believer this is not what what it was? I mean, 565 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: how do you help people understand the film? Is? It 566 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 1: was done great? I mean it really helps to explain 567 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,919 Speaker 1: so much. And how do you personally on a personal level, 568 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: I mean family, friends, I mean, how do you how 569 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: do you break this? Well, it's very difficult. My my 570 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: my entire family on the East Coast or and I 571 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: was raised Catholic also, and I'm like bagging on Catholics here, 572 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,800 Speaker 1: but but you know that they raised, they were, they're 573 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: still Catholic. I'm I'm born against spirit filled. So I 574 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: think you know at the three hour conversation, and there 575 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 1: is a difference between just going to church and doing 576 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: a ritual and then having an encounter with the living 577 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: God and ongoing encounter with the living God. That's what 578 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: happened two thousand years ago through Jesus and still was 579 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 1: available today. But of course, like all truth, it becomes 580 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: incredibly mucked up and and obfuscated, and that's how unfortunately 581 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: it has become. But I don't approach the subject with 582 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 1: people again, we say there's a disclaimer in the very 583 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 1: first film you go. People have a right to believe 584 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,720 Speaker 1: what they want to believe. Every year, you know, hundreds 585 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,720 Speaker 1: of thousands of pilgrims, Millions of pilgrims go to Fatima 586 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 1: each year. Millions of Muslims the circle of the Combus 587 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 1: zone in Mecca. Millions of Hindu celebrate Gurup Puju Gurup 588 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: Puja every year. Millions of of uh Buddhists worship with 589 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: thousands of temples. People have the right to believe what 590 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: they want to believe. And we're not gonna argue that. 591 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: And I don't want to argue that. If you if 592 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 1: you think that Buddha is God, then you know, meditate. 593 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: But if you come to me and you say, what 594 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 1: do you think, I'll tell you what I think. I'll 595 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: tell you what I think. There is no such things enlightenment, right, 596 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,439 Speaker 1: I mean, that's it's just nonsense. Well, it never deals 597 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 1: with the fundamental issue man's depravity. There's only one religion 598 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: that deals with man's depravity. That is Judeo Christian thought. 599 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 1: That's it. Everybody else just masks it. But you know, 600 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 1: Christianity says you're a sinner, you need redemption. Here's how 601 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: you get redeemed. You believe on him, it was said Jesus, 602 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: and you believe in the work of the Cross. And 603 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: that's it. That's all you gotta do. You don't have 604 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 1: to go in to monastery and meditate for fifty years. 605 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 1: You just believe and he comes in your life. It 606 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: begins to change you. That happened to me forty one 607 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: years ago. So you know, circling back to Fatima, um, 608 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 1: it was a Harvard Drup deception. And what's breaking in 609 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 1: the news today, the whole UFO phenomena. It's everywhere. What 610 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: was once tabloid is now mainstream and people limbration and 611 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: it's on Fox News for crying out loud. I mean 612 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 1: figure right, right, yeah, I don't know how to uh 613 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: take what they're dishing out right now. At this level, 614 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, you know, we weren't qualified to look 615 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: at the sky ourselves and to say this is what's 616 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: happening everybody, but the guy in the suit and the 617 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: fancy building. Uh, he could tell you it's real, and 618 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: all of a sudden we should all, you know, bow 619 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,359 Speaker 1: and say thank you. I think we're so appreciative. I mean, 620 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: I've known so many people that have lost their jobs 621 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: lost their families, lost their minds because they were made 622 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: to believe that they were talking utter nonsense. So I'm 623 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: not I'm not thinking that all of a sudden, out 624 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 1: of the kindness of their heart, they're just gonna spill 625 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 1: everything as it is. I think they're going to uh 626 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: deceive and guide the narrative as they like well said, 627 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: we said. Goodness, it's it's absolutely scary honestly to know 628 00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,120 Speaker 1: where they're gonna go with it. But so I'm is. 629 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 1: So you're talking about the net flum earlier, tell us 630 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,879 Speaker 1: a little bit about where you're going on that angle. Well, 631 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,760 Speaker 1: we have a new film coming out in the series. 632 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 1: There's now six that are available. You can go to 633 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 1: streaming dot l A Marzuli dot net streaming dot l 634 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 1: A Marzuli dot net watch all six Benje watching from 635 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 1: her twenty five bucks. If you want to buy the 636 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,439 Speaker 1: disc you got to go to the website and that's 637 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,760 Speaker 1: l A Marzuli dot Net. Seven is coming out. Lost 638 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: Civilizations Are are good friend of ours. Bob Ulrich of 639 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 1: Prophecy Watchers has screened the film. He said it was 640 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 1: the best film in the series so far. A head 641 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 1: and shoulders above everything else. I would like to think 642 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: I'm getting better as a director and an editor. But 643 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 1: we take the viewer, you know, from gil Raphim in Israel, 644 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 1: to Sardinia to Sicily, to Malta, to Gozo, to France, 645 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: to Peru to Tel t Willkan. I mean, we're all 646 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,320 Speaker 1: over the map, all over the globe, and we're showing 647 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 1: a connectivity that there are all these lost civilizations and 648 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 1: no one the same. The same old excuse from archaeologist 649 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 1: is used endlessly. Well do due to climate change? The 650 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: people who building the sleep well, we're not buying that power. Okay, 651 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: you don't build a huge something like Corral and Peru, 652 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: the five thousand euroroa thing and then just abandon that. 653 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 1: Just go wow, you're only fourteen miles from the sea. 654 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 1: I'm not buying that at all. Fourteen miles from the sea. 655 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: You have plenty of time to bring fish in and out. 656 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: And there's a river that goes right next to the site. 657 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,879 Speaker 1: Are you you got you got freshwater up the waz 658 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: of No, no, no, no no, no. Something else happened And 659 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 1: this is what we call it definite architecture, phone angil technology. 660 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: These these sites they're they're raised up they're inhabited for 661 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 1: a time, and then they disappear, and in the inhabitants disappear. 662 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 1: In Native Americans, when asked by white sellers coming into Ohio, 663 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,360 Speaker 1: who built a great circle mount who built these mounts? 664 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 1: Native Americans said, we don't know. It was sure when 665 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: we got here. But all that's spun all that well, 666 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 1: that was that was a hundred fifty years ago that 667 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,839 Speaker 1: we can't possibly go with. What's the truth? No, no, 668 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 1: no, no no, no. Native Americans built the sites, they just 669 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,400 Speaker 1: forgot that they had done. So that's what Cyrus Thomas 670 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 1: put forward in the beginning of the twentieth century, and 671 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 1: that paradigm is still upheld in archaeological circles. So people 672 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 1: like me, I'm Mr. Tinfoil half, people like me, for 673 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 1: thirty years have been banging the drum of the reality 674 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 1: and the veracity of UFOs. Now, who's wearing a tinfoil 675 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 1: Halt right, let you tell me, you tell me you're 676 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 1: awfully bashful. They're about your approach. L A, I love it. 677 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 1: It's just like all in it. Oh my goodness, this 678 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 1: has been a really fascinating conversation. And I have got 679 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 1: to tell you I have friends and family who have 680 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 1: different backgrounds, different beliefs, different religions, and it's all very interesting, 681 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 1: fascinating stuff. And you know, I'm Christian. I always say that, 682 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 1: and I have my bias. I look at things from 683 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 1: a certain perspective and that's the way I follow. But wow, 684 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 1: to have this kind of perspective where somebody goes in 685 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 1: and digs in deep too prove that what's been painted 686 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,799 Speaker 1: might not be exactly what it was. So keep an 687 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 1: open mind, you guys. You are listening to Dark Becomes 688 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 1: Light with me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio 689 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 1: and Coast to Coast, a m paranall podcast network, and 690 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:31,840 Speaker 1: we'll be right back. Don't go anywhere. There's more Heidi 691 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 1: Hollis coming right up. If you feel stressed, suffer from fatigue, 692 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 1: moodier than usual, or would like to fall asleep easier 693 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 1: and sleep more soundly while losing weight, do we have 694 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,760 Speaker 1: something for you? Accelerate and Elevate. 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Welcome back. 723 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,400 Speaker 1: You are listening to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi 724 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,240 Speaker 1: Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast, 725 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 1: a m ter normal podcast network. And my guest today 726 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: is l A mar Zuli, who was just speaking of 727 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,800 Speaker 1: the mound builders and the Nephelim and I'm really excited 728 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 1: to learn more about this new film you're about to 729 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 1: put out. Loss Ofization is number seven in the series, 730 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 1: and we basically have travels, like I said in the 731 00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 1: over segment, pretty much. You know, I'm not all over 732 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 1: the globe and a lot different places. We go from 733 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 1: from Missil to France, to Sardinia, to the island of 734 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:10,920 Speaker 1: Gozo and Malta and uh in Sicily, and then Majorca, France, England, Peru, 735 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 1: tt Wakon in Mexico, and then of course all of 736 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,759 Speaker 1: the United States. So what we're showing are the fingerprints 737 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 1: of a supernatural, what we would call the fingerprints of 738 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,920 Speaker 1: a supernatural. We get in the megalithic stones, and the 739 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 1: fact that all of these sites are built on an 740 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 1: eighteen and a half year lunar cycle. Um, many of 741 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,440 Speaker 1: them are built on an ant an lunar cycle. And 742 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,319 Speaker 1: we dealt into that in our maund Builders film, And 743 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 1: just to give you an idea how absurd this is. 744 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,759 Speaker 1: So the great the Great Octagon Mountain which encompanies is 745 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 1: roughly fifty acres. It's in Ohio, so it's an octagon, 746 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 1: but it's not a regular octagon. It's an uneven octagon. 747 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 1: How would you check your work fifty acres? Fifty acres 748 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: file zero acres the octagon encompasses. How do you check 749 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 1: your work? I mean you only check your work is 750 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,719 Speaker 1: to be high up in the air well. How how 751 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,399 Speaker 1: did they do that? You know, three thousand years ago 752 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,480 Speaker 1: or whatever. And the site is built on an eighteen 753 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,920 Speaker 1: and a half year lunar cycle. So all this dirts 754 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:11,400 Speaker 1: piled up and every eighteen and a half years that 755 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 1: that that little you know, the moon comes right up there. 756 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 1: It is eighteen and a half year the lunar cycle. 757 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,240 Speaker 1: So Native Americans, with all due respect in Native Americans 758 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,800 Speaker 1: had no idea of the metonic cycle. The eighteen and 759 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 1: a half year lunar cycle. Europeans didn't have any idea. 760 00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 1: Most people had no clue. Now, the Book of Enoch 761 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,279 Speaker 1: tells us that a fallen angel by the name of 762 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:38,719 Speaker 1: Sarrel handed disinformation to mankind. Okay, so let's say where 763 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,319 Speaker 1: we we go. We we jumped down three or four 764 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 1: thousand years ago, and we look at the moon and 765 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:46,759 Speaker 1: we go, well, you know, the moon seems to be 766 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 1: appearing and then disappearing in different places, and we go, yeah, 767 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 1: you know, let's try to track this. Okay, great, So 768 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,359 Speaker 1: he put some steaks in the ground, and we put 769 00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,399 Speaker 1: notches where the moon comes up two steaks. We line 770 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,360 Speaker 1: the two steakes on in the cleft of a mountain 771 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 1: in the distance, and then to the right of us, 772 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 1: we've got over two steaks. We line those up to 773 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,800 Speaker 1: another object, and that's where the moon waynes goes away. 774 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,279 Speaker 1: So we do this for about twenty nights. Got a 775 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 1: lot of notches on the stick. Not sure how we're 776 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 1: gonna translate all this data. I'm not really sure how 777 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna, you know, write all this on some deer hide. 778 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,640 Speaker 1: Oh and with what writing implement are we're gonna use okay, 779 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:29,640 Speaker 1: so we'll figure all that out. So after twenty nights 780 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,879 Speaker 1: we get five days of rain, we can't see the moon. 781 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 1: Now what And here's something perplexing. How would you know 782 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,880 Speaker 1: where you were when you jump in and you start 783 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,279 Speaker 1: tracking the loot, the moon, the cycle of the moon. 784 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:48,320 Speaker 1: Are you in year three, you're seventeen, year six, you're twelve. 785 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 1: You have no idea where you are? How do you 786 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,960 Speaker 1: crunch the data? Heiding? How do you do that? And 787 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,840 Speaker 1: this is like the elephant in the room that you 788 00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 1: know the archaeologists, well they do it. That shows that 789 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,959 Speaker 1: they could do it. Well, that's a straw man argument, pal, 790 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 1: because you know, you don't know how they did it. 791 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 1: And Native Americans say that they don't know how they 792 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,440 Speaker 1: did it because they didn't do it. And this is 793 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,880 Speaker 1: this is the elephant in the room. And all these sites, 794 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 1: many of them are built on an eighteen and a 795 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 1: half year lunar cycle. America Stone Hande. We have two 796 00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:23,600 Speaker 1: films there, America Stonehenge uh the Canaanite Connection and the 797 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,719 Speaker 1: second film is The Access Money of the Center of 798 00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 1: the World. That side is built on an eighteen and 799 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 1: a half year lunar cycle. And we don't have time 800 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,840 Speaker 1: to get into the absolutely what I believe is that 801 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:38,360 Speaker 1: the most incredible archaeological discovery of the twenty one century, 802 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,440 Speaker 1: which snow one is talking about an archaeological circles. Of course, 803 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 1: because Kelsey Stone isn't an archaeologist, but he discovered something 804 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,640 Speaker 1: which is absolutely mind boggling. He grew up on that site. 805 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,959 Speaker 1: There's a Summer Solcials standing stone. So when you stand 806 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,960 Speaker 1: in the center of his site and you look out 807 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,840 Speaker 1: about Summer Social Standing Zone, which is embedded in the 808 00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 1: ground ways about three tons, that's what the sun comes 809 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 1: pop and right over that. Baby, So why did they 810 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,319 Speaker 1: do this? So Kelsey Stones on Google Earth and he's 811 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,600 Speaker 1: dialing this in and he goes, well, gee, I wonder 812 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 1: if I draw a line from the center of my 813 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,399 Speaker 1: hands out of the Summer Solcial Standing Zone. I wonder 814 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 1: if it goes over my house. Wow, it kind of 815 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,400 Speaker 1: goes pretty close to the house. That's pretty cool. I 816 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,840 Speaker 1: wonder where else it goes. So he starts extending a 817 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,719 Speaker 1: line on Google Earth. He's out over the Atlantic, he 818 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 1: goes by Nova Scotia, he goes through Ireland, he finds 819 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,960 Speaker 1: himself in southern England and he knows. He says, well, wow, 820 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:32,080 Speaker 1: I wonder if there's a connectivity between you know, our 821 00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 1: our site, the Summer Solcial standing zones of his two 822 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:39,000 Speaker 1: points and maybe maybe Stonehenge, England. So he starts to 823 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,279 Speaker 1: zoom in on Stonehenge and to his other amazement, the 824 00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:46,000 Speaker 1: line which is sited. Remember, okay, you any any two 825 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,440 Speaker 1: points you can connect to three points. That's something different. 826 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,400 Speaker 1: So he's got the center of his site out to 827 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,200 Speaker 1: the Summer Solcial standing stone. It's about eighty yards away. 828 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,120 Speaker 1: If it's moved to the left two feet, he's not 829 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,840 Speaker 1: gonna wind up in Stonehenge to the right two feet. 830 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,680 Speaker 1: Same thing. That line heighty intersects the center trial a 831 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:10,399 Speaker 1: thon at stonehenging on. That impossibility, unless you're triangulating from 832 00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,520 Speaker 1: the air, is the most Yeah, it is the most astounding, 833 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:18,320 Speaker 1: the most astounding archaeological discovery in modernity. In my opinion, 834 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,759 Speaker 1: nobody cares. You know, with all of this work, you 835 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,720 Speaker 1: have such a broad range of things that you pull together. 836 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,520 Speaker 1: And I know what drives me in my work, and 837 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,560 Speaker 1: I know the message I'm trying to get across to people. 838 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 1: So what is it that your ultimate goal is that 839 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,600 Speaker 1: you're trying to get across to folks. Now we live 840 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,920 Speaker 1: in a supernatural world that we have been invaded. That 841 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,279 Speaker 1: the Genesis three fifteen narrative that the seat of a 842 00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,000 Speaker 1: serpent will be an emitty with the seat of the 843 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:48,440 Speaker 1: woman is paramount to any understanding of the biblical narrative. 844 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,200 Speaker 1: Is in order for a person to understand what is 845 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,640 Speaker 1: happening on this planet, they must come to grips with 846 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,920 Speaker 1: Genesis three fifteen and understand that it is a seed 847 00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,880 Speaker 1: war that we're involved in, and that scene war is ongoing, 848 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,640 Speaker 1: going and creeps into modernity specifically but not limited to 849 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,000 Speaker 1: the alien abduction phenomena and the hybrids that we're seeing, 850 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,920 Speaker 1: including black eyed kids and hybrid entities. And on a 851 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 1: low of goes, their seed will mingle with the seed 852 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:13,759 Speaker 1: of men, but they will not cleave to them. The 853 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 1: Book of Daniels still book for thousands of years, and 854 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,799 Speaker 1: now it's open in these latter days. Why because men 855 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,319 Speaker 1: will run two and for over the face of the earth, 856 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,279 Speaker 1: and knowledge will increased. That's where we are. Men run 857 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:24,680 Speaker 1: two and for over the face of the earth. Many 858 00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,239 Speaker 1: women ran to and for over the face of the earth. 859 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,600 Speaker 1: Knowledge increases exponentially Book of Daniels now unsealed, we can 860 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,680 Speaker 1: look at it and understand that the seed that he's 861 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,480 Speaker 1: talking about is not the seed of men. Their seed 862 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,359 Speaker 1: will mingle with the seed of men. What does that mean? 863 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,160 Speaker 1: How can men seed mingle? It's not man seed. It's 864 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,879 Speaker 1: a number seen goes back in Genesis free fifteen, which 865 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:47,080 Speaker 1: is why it's it's absolutely paramount to come to grips 866 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 1: and understanding of what that scripture means. Wow, it's powerful, 867 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,319 Speaker 1: My goodness it There's a lot of people that are 868 00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,319 Speaker 1: thinking we're in the end times these days. How are 869 00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:01,520 Speaker 1: you feeling about these uh days? We're in absolutely um. 870 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:05,799 Speaker 1: I think that, especially with the the revealing of a 871 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,760 Speaker 1: so called extraterrestrial presence. What's supposed to happen in June, 872 00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,920 Speaker 1: and they're trotting stuff out all the time. Something something 873 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,759 Speaker 1: is about to happen. There's a saying I coined a 874 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,000 Speaker 1: few years ago. We go up, they show up, we 875 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:22,360 Speaker 1: go up, they come down, and something is restraining Go 876 00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:26,480 Speaker 1: hold ufo phenomena just from busting open. Right, something is 877 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,600 Speaker 1: restraining I believe it. It's the spirit of a living 878 00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:32,359 Speaker 1: God which is saying no, not yet, no, not yet, 879 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,520 Speaker 1: not till the church is taken up. So we'll see, 880 00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,800 Speaker 1: we'll see who's right. So where are you going next? 881 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,319 Speaker 1: What's next on your agenda? Well, I'm I'm redoing the 882 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,040 Speaker 1: UFO film because it's absolutely needed. I'm re editing it 883 00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,360 Speaker 1: as I said earlier, and I'm also doing right after that, 884 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:51,759 Speaker 1: we'll do volume two, episode two of that because there 885 00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,680 Speaker 1: is Volume one, part one, part two where we sat 886 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:58,400 Speaker 1: down with Nick Pope, Nick Redford, George Nori and others 887 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:03,120 Speaker 1: and talking about UFO disclosure. So people need to understand 888 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:07,160 Speaker 1: that we're we're not in Kansas anymore and the cats 889 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,319 Speaker 1: out of the bag. Time to wake up. That's a 890 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,759 Speaker 1: good way of putting it. I Like you're saying, how 891 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,839 Speaker 1: you travel the world to dig up new truths and 892 00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:22,400 Speaker 1: create revelatory content for your community of followers, and uh, 893 00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:26,839 Speaker 1: you combine the current events, prophecy and the supernatural and 894 00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:30,320 Speaker 1: and it takes all of that effort to really uh 895 00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,120 Speaker 1: fine tune and and and make a clear path in 896 00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:36,360 Speaker 1: people's minds, uh to draw their own conclusions. Because like 897 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,839 Speaker 1: you're saying, it's like you can't cram these things down 898 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,160 Speaker 1: people's throats, but if they ask you, you're gonna tell them, 899 00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,160 Speaker 1: and we really need to take that time, I think, 900 00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,320 Speaker 1: you know, and especially I find when when somebody loses 901 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,200 Speaker 1: somebody important in their life, all of a sudden, they 902 00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:53,319 Speaker 1: start contemplating, is this all there is? You know? Where 903 00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,600 Speaker 1: are we going? Oh? I better figure out how to pray, 904 00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,200 Speaker 1: you know. And it's like I think that it's just 905 00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,160 Speaker 1: like any muscle you you should uh, you know, maintain 906 00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:05,880 Speaker 1: it and and keep your focus steady instead of jumping 907 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,759 Speaker 1: and stopping and jumping and stopping and being so hard 908 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:12,760 Speaker 1: on ourselves like we're flawed human beings and well suddenly 909 00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:17,400 Speaker 1: we're supposed to be absolutely perfect in our belief system. 910 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,360 Speaker 1: It takes a lot of bits of input that helps 911 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:25,160 Speaker 1: get that picture even clearer, and your work truly helps 912 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,160 Speaker 1: reach out to all those different corners. So I really 913 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,919 Speaker 1: appreciate your work. Thank you, Hi. That's really very kind 914 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,200 Speaker 1: to you to say that, And it's uh an honor 915 00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,480 Speaker 1: and a pleasure to be on your show. Really appreciate it. 916 00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,640 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, this has been fun. So how can 917 00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,120 Speaker 1: people again get ahold of you and see your work? 918 00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,880 Speaker 1: Last way? Is l A mars really dot net? L 919 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,720 Speaker 1: A Marzuli not net? You can procreate all the books, 920 00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:49,480 Speaker 1: all the DVDs, or if you just want to rep 921 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,279 Speaker 1: the DVDs, you can go to streaming dot l A 922 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:56,239 Speaker 1: Marsuali dot net, streaming dot l a Marzuli dot net 923 00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,560 Speaker 1: and watch the entire series of all Matrol and Nephili 924 00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,799 Speaker 1: and also a film. Wow, thank you so much. This 925 00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:08,400 Speaker 1: has been so enlightening and so much fun. Ellie mar Zuli, everyone, 926 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,040 Speaker 1: and I want to welcome you the listener to go 927 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,319 Speaker 1: to my main website, which is Heidi Hollis dot com 928 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:20,200 Speaker 1: or shadow Folks dot com and uh, write me, tell 929 00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:21,759 Speaker 1: me what's going on in your lives, what is it 930 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,319 Speaker 1: that you've experienced that out of the ordinary, and the 931 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:29,560 Speaker 1: more detail the better, And also follow me on Instagram 932 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:34,719 Speaker 1: at the Outlanders Comic and at one Heidi Hollis So 933 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,360 Speaker 1: the Outlanders Comic dot com. That is my paranormal comic strip. 934 00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,080 Speaker 1: I am pulling all the facts and figures of the 935 00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:45,600 Speaker 1: paranormal world and just absolute silliness into my comics. It's 936 00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,480 Speaker 1: all I ever wanted to be growing up with via 937 00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:51,520 Speaker 1: comic strip artists, and oh boy, I've kind of steered 938 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:56,000 Speaker 1: stray from it, but it's okay. I'm having fun. But yeah, 939 00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:57,960 Speaker 1: so I really want to hear have you had an 940 00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:02,440 Speaker 1: angel encounters? Sorry, you're having weird dreams with the COVID vaccination, 941 00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:04,680 Speaker 1: that's a thing. I don't know if you guys knew that. 942 00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,440 Speaker 1: What do you think about the disclosure that's about to happen? 943 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,880 Speaker 1: Write me, tell me what's on your mind, Tell me 944 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:14,520 Speaker 1: about your research, Tell me about your experience and I 945 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,839 Speaker 1: will feature it here on the show. Or you could 946 00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,360 Speaker 1: be a guest on this show. You've been listening to 947 00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,319 Speaker 1: Dark Becomes Light with me, Heidi Hollis on the I 948 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:26,840 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network, 949 00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:32,880 Speaker 1: and we will catch you next time. Stay safe, stay well, goodbye, everybody, 950 00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:44,680 Speaker 1: see you next time. Well, if you liked this edition 951 00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,680 Speaker 1: of Dark Becomes Light, wait till you hear the next one. 952 00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,600 Speaker 1: You've been listening to the I Heart Radio and Coast 953 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,280 Speaker 1: Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.