1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, and welcome to another edition of the Dave 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: Pash Podcast. I'm your host Arizona Cardinals and ESPN broadcaster 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Dave Pash. Our guest this week is Cardinals tight end 4 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: Zach Ertz. Zach and his wife Julie recently announced that 5 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: they are bringing a baby boy into this world. We're 6 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: going to talk about fatherhood with Zach, what he expects 7 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: that to be like, and how that might impact him 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: as a football player. We'll also talk about donut Gate, 9 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: a current controversy in the locker room with both zach 10 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: Ertz and J. J. Watt. Zach's new contract with the 11 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: team were some of the reasons he decided to stay 12 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: here in Arizona with the Cardinals. His thoughts on the 13 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two season. What do you expects from Kyler Murray? 14 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: What the offense might look like without DeAndre Hopkins the 15 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: first six weeks of the season. Kyler is the most 16 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: talented player I've ever been around, player player period. There 17 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: is no doubt. There's nothing he cannot do on a 18 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: football gold Trey McBride, the rookie tight end out of 19 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: Colorado State. 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Now here's 29 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: our guest for this week's edition of the Dave Pash Podcast, 30 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: Cardinals tight End, Zach Ertz. Zach, appreciate you doing this. 31 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: Let's start with the news of the last month, and 32 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: that's you're going to be a dad. Yeah. How's that feel? Man? Oh, 33 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: it's amazing. We're so excited. Julie and I are just 34 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: ecstatic to be parents. Obviously, it's a different season of life, 35 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: something that we've never done before, this being our first one, 36 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: so we're extremely excited. Getting everything set up, getting the 37 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: nursery set up, a lot of things that we're probably 38 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: not prepared for, but I feel like we got a 39 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: lot of great people to lean on and can't wait 40 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: for them to come. Do we know the gender? It 41 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 1: is a boy? Congratulations? Man, congratulations, I've got one myself. 42 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: He's now sixteen, trying to figure out how to drive. 43 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: Oh man, Yeah. I don't look forward to to him 44 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: being on the streets or me being on the streets 45 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: in a different car. That's one thing. If you're sitting 46 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: next to him, it's another few or another car. How 47 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: do you think being a dad will impact you as 48 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: a football player. I think it will put a lot 49 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: of things in perspective. I mean I'm excited about that. 50 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: You know, no matter how the day goes here at work, 51 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: I know I'm coming home to not only my wife 52 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 1: Julie loving me, but there will be a son there 53 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: that will just view me as his hero per se 54 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: And no matter how my day is going, the moment 55 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: I walk in the door, all those problems will probably 56 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: dissipate when I see them. But the way I approached 57 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: the game, the way I go about my business, I 58 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: don't think we'll change. I can't answer that definitively, but 59 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: as of now, I'm just excited. I know it's a 60 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: big responsibility to be a dad, something that I definitely 61 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: don't take lightly. So I'll take the same attitude I 62 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: have playing football to be the best dad I can be. 63 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: It's probably more of a change for your wife because 64 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: she's a professional athlete as well. Do you think that 65 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 1: she'll continue to be a professional athlete once you get 66 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: through this or is it, you know what, the first 67 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: time going through this? We have no idea. Yeah, I 68 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: mean I think we're I think that's the approach. I'm 69 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: never going I told people all the time, I'm never 70 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: going to be the one to tell Julie, hey, I 71 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: think it's time for you to be done. I mean 72 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: that is I'll die on the hill that Julie was 73 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: the best player in the world when she was playing 74 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: in her prime. Not only as a husband but as 75 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: a football fan, that was how I viewed it. And 76 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: so if she wants to come back and play, great, 77 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: If she doesn't, great as well, we'll adjust either way. 78 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: What I have loved over the past nine months after 79 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: since the Olympics in August, she's been home every day 80 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: and this is the longest time we've been together consistently 81 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: since we started dating. We started dating in college, she 82 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: went to Santa Clara. I went to Stanford, so we 83 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: did a little long distance then and then I got 84 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: drafted and it was in Philadelphia, and she was a 85 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: senior in college, and then after that she was in Chicago. 86 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: I was in Philly. So it was always months or 87 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: weeks at a time. But this has been a great, 88 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: a really good season for us to kind of just 89 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: really hang out each and every day, love each other 90 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: each and every day, and it's been really fun. She's 91 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: from here, right and family is still here as well. Yep. 92 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: So was that a big factor for you guys and 93 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: making a decision about staying here with the Cardinals? It was. 94 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: The whole process was a process. I guess there were 95 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: multiple factors. Julie has said all along, even a few 96 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: years ago when we were knew our time was running 97 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 1: out in Philly, she was like, I don't care where 98 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: we play, just go where you want to go and 99 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: I'll be there regardless. And so that takes a lot 100 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: of pressure off of me as someone that is leading 101 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: the family to kind of make a football decision. Obviously, 102 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 1: her input and her well being is paramount to me, 103 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: but the fact that we have a little one on 104 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: the way and all the doctors. We've already seen her here. 105 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: Her family's here, and my mom will be here. My 106 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: mom was gonna be wherever I was going to go play, 107 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: so we'll always have help near. But we love Arizona. 108 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: Julie loves Arizona. It's hard not to love Arizona, especially 109 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: as an athlete, because the weather is always good. Even 110 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: when it's one hundred degrees. The body still feels amazing 111 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: running around out there. It's not like Philadelphia, where it 112 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: was freezing and it took half of practice just to 113 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: get warmed up. But it was a great decision. We 114 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: are very blessed to be here and I'm excited about 115 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: the future. It's a great place, man. This is my 116 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: twenty first year, will be my twenty first season doing 117 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: the Cardinals games. Moved here in two thousand and two, 118 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: had bounced around to different cities, and as soon as 119 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: we got here, it's it's hard not to love. Yeah. 120 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: And the team's been great about you know, allow me 121 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: to do all the stuff with ESPN and still be 122 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 1: able to have my home base here and still have 123 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: a team, a team to root for. So not surprised 124 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: to hear that you love it here, because I haven't 125 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: met many people that come here that want to leave. Yeah, 126 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. You said something interesting about you 127 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: realized that your time in Philly was coming to an end. 128 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: And I'm curious why that happened, Like, why did you 129 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: think it was coming to an end? Was it just 130 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: a contractual thing where you wanted something financially that you 131 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,119 Speaker 1: didn't think you were going to get, or you didn't 132 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: feel like you were fitting into what they were trying 133 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: to do anymore. I think a little bit of both. Obviously, 134 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: the contract thing was pretty public, so everyone knew what 135 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: was going on there. And also I think they were 136 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: kind of resetting. Obviously they moved on from Carston, they 137 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: moved on from Doug and when everyone was kind of 138 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: on that way out, I've kind of figured it. There 139 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: was kind of a shifting of the guard per se. 140 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 1: They were going to go in a different direction. And 141 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: I told them that all along when we were going 142 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 1: through the contract stuff. They had a young tight end 143 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: at the time, it was pretty good player, and I 144 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: just said, hey, listen, I don't care what the decision is. 145 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be upset either way, but just 146 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: please make one like don't hang me out to dry 147 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: or whatever, and we were should have to land in 148 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: Arizona midway through the year. I wish it happened a 149 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: little earlier, but I couldn't control that, and understand it's 150 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: part of the business. I have no ill feelings for 151 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: anyone in that building. I still talk to a lot 152 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: of people in the building, a lot of long time 153 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: teammates that I played a lot of football with. I'll 154 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: still still talk to them. But yeah, it's one of 155 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: those things. Cardinals play Philly this year, but the game's here, 156 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: so there's a chance at some point you get to 157 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:28,239 Speaker 1: go back to Philadelphia and get a standing ovation. I 158 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: was there. I did a couple of sixer games in 159 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: the playoffs, and I did a game in the regular 160 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: season in Philly, and it was JJ Reddick's first game 161 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: as an analyst. And JJ was there for one year, 162 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: but he got an incredible ovation from the crowd. Was 163 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: up on the JumboTron. I mean, there were autograph seekers 164 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: throughout the night for JJ, who again was there for 165 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: a year. You won a super Bowl in Philadelphia, First 166 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: of all, what was it like, not just winning a 167 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: super Bowl but doing in a city like Philadelphia, And 168 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: what do you think it will be like to go 169 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: back there one day as a visiting player. Yeah, it 170 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: would be special. Obviously, I grew up so much there. 171 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: I pretty much spent a third of my life in Philadelphia. 172 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: I considered at home for so long. I don't know 173 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: if we'll end up there or not when I'm done playing, 174 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: but being there winning the super Bowl, the city's first 175 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: super Bowl in a city that lives in breezes of 176 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: the Eagles, was special. The parade was an experience that 177 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: I'll never forget, and that experience is really driving me now. 178 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: Just experiencing that feeling of winning a Super Bowl hoisting 179 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: the Lombardi is really motivating me each and every day 180 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: because I would need. I feel like I need to 181 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: feel that feeling again. And so that attitude and that 182 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: success we had was driving me today to hopefully repeat 183 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: that here in Arizona. You've played for a wide variety 184 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: of personalities as head coaches. Obviously Hardball you had David 185 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 1: Shaw a little bit right as well, Chip. I love Chip, 186 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: and I don't know what kind of relationship you had 187 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: with Chip Kelly, but he's just a great guy, fun 188 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: guy to be around and all the criticism that he 189 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: took for doing what he did, I realized some of 190 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: it you can't do in terms of just full go 191 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: every single all acceleration, no breaks. I get it, you 192 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: can't do that in the NFL. But a lot of 193 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: what the scheme and some of the things he's doing, 194 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: most everybody does now. I mean they've copied a lot 195 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: of stuff that they said couldn't work in the NFL. Yeah, 196 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I've obviously played with an eclectic group. Coach 197 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: Harbaugh was perfect for me when I was eighteen years 198 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: old coming out of high school, didn't know any better. 199 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: Dude just mentally manipulated me to be the best I 200 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: could and I appreciate him to this day. Coach was 201 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: a phenomenal coach. We had, Andrew Luck myself. It's just 202 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: so much talent, David de Castro, Doug Baldwin, all these guys. 203 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: Our time at Stanford was so far and we were 204 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: so good, and then getting drafted by Chip was a 205 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: really good thing for not only me, but I think 206 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: a lot of other guys because he was obviously he 207 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: had his ways on the and you can debate them 208 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: either which way. But the stuff that he taught us 209 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: off the field in terms of prioritizing your body, prioritizing 210 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: nutrition stuff and all that aspect. I would say Chip 211 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: taught us a lot and the intensity at practice that 212 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: he demanded, and a lot of guys didn't last in 213 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: Philly or were shipped out because of that. I would 214 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: say the guys that stayed and really embraced that really 215 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: set the culture in that building for a long time, 216 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: and we practiced our butts off, whether it was with Chip, 217 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: whether it was with Doug, whether it was Nick this 218 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: past year, for the limited time I was there, the 219 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: intensity the Vets have brought in practice really shaped the 220 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: culture of that building. And I don't think Chip gets 221 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: enough credit for that in the standards he set in 222 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: that regard. So you listed all those guys, and I'm curious, 223 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: in your limited experience so far with Cliff, where does 224 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: Cliff fit in with those guys in terms of personality, style, likability. 225 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: Cliffs one of the easiest guys to get along with. 226 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: I haven't met many people that say they can't get 227 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: along with Cliff Kingsbury. Yeah, I think he's a mold 228 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: of all of them. You know that this offense is 229 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: similar to Chip, I would say Cliff's approach is more 230 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: like Doug where it's a lot of veteran leadership. He 231 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: puts a lot of it on the veterans to kind 232 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: of hold the standards and create the standards. But Cliff 233 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: grinds like he is here in this building all the time, 234 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: like four am during the season, doing everything he can 235 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: to get his guys the ball, put us in positions 236 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: to be successful. And so in my would I have 237 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 1: twelve weeks last year with him, it was awesome. And 238 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: that's what I told my agent this offseason. I said, Hey, 239 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: I want to come back to Arizona. I love playing 240 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: for this guy. I love the culture in the building, 241 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: and when they resigned him, it was a big factor 242 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: and me wanting to come back. You talk about Cliff 243 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: empowering the veterans to take control of the locker room. 244 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: How did you handle that because you're coming in there 245 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: are already a lot of veterans here and the team 246 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: was winning at the time, So how did you assert 247 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: yourself in that leadership role in the middle of a 248 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: season when you get traded here? Yeah, I mean you 249 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: don't do a lot, you know, especially early on, it 250 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: was learned the playbook, figure out the culture, introduce yourself 251 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: to the guys um and guys that play in the 252 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: NFL a long time, whether it be seven, eight, nine, 253 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: ten years, you they're there for they've played for a reason. 254 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: They understand what it takes to be to have success, 255 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: They understand what it takes to win on Sundays, to 256 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: take care of your bodies, and so there's not much 257 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: variation in terms of approach in leadership qualities per se 258 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: among the guys that have been doing it for a 259 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: long time. But then once you get more comfortable, and 260 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: once I got more comfortable, and there are some things 261 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: that we were doing as a team that I felt 262 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: where they're limiting us. So sometimes you just got to 263 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 1: stand up and address something like whether it be penalties, 264 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: whether it be pre snap stuff, whether it be discipline, 265 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: some of the stuff. I was one of the few 266 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: guys that had won a Super Bowl, and so with that, 267 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: I don't want to say credential, it is it almost Yeah, 268 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: with that credibility, I would say that's a better word. 269 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: You can kind of say things that maybe a guy 270 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: that had been here for only ten weeks wouldn't have 271 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: necessarily been able to say, and so that in those 272 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: moments when you know when things are kind of hitting 273 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: the fan, and then it was my turn to kind 274 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: of take a step up. JJ was gone, So then 275 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: it was kind of like, well, I better say something 276 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: because I don't want this to end the wrong way. 277 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: With that said, as you look back at the second 278 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: half of last season, what were some of the pitfalls 279 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: that you think you guys can avoid this year because 280 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: you've now been through that and you've had to be 281 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: in a situation where you've had to speak up or 282 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: hold somebody accountable. Yeah, I mean I think well, first 283 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: of all, if I had the answer to why this 284 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: team has not been successful in the second half of 285 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: the season in the past couple of years, I would 286 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 1: have already changed it. But looking back at last year, 287 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 1: because that's the only experience I've had, it just really 288 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 1: came down to execution. And I know that's so cliche 289 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: or so easy to say, but we were just such 290 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: a better team on first and second down earlier in 291 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: the season, then we were at the end of the season, 292 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: and then the season we're freaking facing second and fifteens, 293 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: third and twelves and it's just so hard as an 294 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: NFL team to face that consistently and put points on 295 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: the board, and then one thing falls into another. We 296 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 1: play good on offense and then the defense plays poorly, 297 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: or the defense plays poorly and we play great. It's 298 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: just one of those things that we couldn't figure it 299 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: all out at the end of the year, and hopefully 300 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: that adversity will help shift us where you just can't 301 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: let things snowball in the NFL. Momentum is real in 302 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: this league, and if you feel like, hey, we're the 303 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: best team, no one can mess with us, then yeah, 304 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: you're gonna play it like that on Sundays. But if 305 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: you take it hit in the mouth and this happens one, two, 306 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: three Sundays in rows, like, man, we got to find 307 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: a way and we just can't let let let that 308 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: mentality of hey, we can't let that snowball effect, especially 309 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: the negative aspect right take place. You also lost a 310 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame player in DeAndre Hopkins. I mean, things change, 311 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: and in the middle of a season. I have to 312 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: think it's much harder to adjust when you got other 313 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: guys injured and things are coming at you so fast. 314 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: You're going from one game to the next as opposed 315 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: to now where you know Hop is not going to 316 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: be there. So for Cliff and for you guys, I 317 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: have to think it's a little bit easier to kind 318 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: of plan Okay, what are these first six games going 319 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: to be? Like, what's our offense gonna be? Like? Yeah, 320 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: I mean, the Hop was obviously a big reason why 321 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: I was excited to come out here. I think we 322 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: only ended up playing like two and a half games together. 323 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: But I've never played with a guy like Kim where 324 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: that in Philly. I was always a guy getting double teams. 325 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: I was the guy that was getting smacked the moment 326 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: he caught the ball. I was excited for all the 327 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: attention to be on the Hop, and then I get 328 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: out here and then I'm getting double team at the 329 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: end of the year again, I'm like, oh man, here 330 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: we go again. But you can never replace a guy 331 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: like DeAndre. Let's just throw that out there. You can scheme, 332 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: you can do whatever you want. You're never just gonna 333 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: respect the moment he crosses those lines on Sunday. There's 334 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: no woman. There's maybe three other guys on the face 335 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: of the earth that demand that same attention that the 336 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: Hop brings to the team. We have to find ways 337 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: to put guys in position to not replace, but kind 338 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: of replicate some of his production. I mean, maybe I 339 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: go play some ex receiver. I did it a lot 340 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: in Philly. Maybe some of the other guys. Ron Dale 341 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: goes outside a little bit more. But I think when 342 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: you have additional time to do it, it it obviously helps. 343 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: And people don't forget Kyler got here, missed three games 344 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: in the middle of the year, so I think the 345 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: rhythm of everything kind of just faltered in the middle 346 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: of the season and we just can't get out of it. 347 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: Kyler obviously is incredibly talented. You've played with a lot 348 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: of good quarterbacks, whether it was at Stanford or in Philadelphia, 349 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: and you know, whether it was somebody that was drafted 350 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: high or Nick Foles, it wasn't drafted high. But he's 351 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: a champion. How is Kyler different from quarterbacks you've played 352 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: with previously, and how is he similar? Kyler is the 353 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: most talented player I've ever been around, player player period. 354 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: There is no doubt. There's nothing he cannot do on 355 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: a football field. He can be like Lamar Jackson and 356 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: take off and run for one hundred plus yards in 357 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: a game. Or in my opinion, you can send in 358 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: the pocket and not even worry about his legs and 359 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: just dinking dunk all the way down the field. He's super, 360 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: super accurate, and there's just nothing he can do. I 361 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: don't know that. I can't really explain it. That he 362 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: can throw the ball sixty yards down the field, he 363 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 1: can make every throw you want him to throw, and 364 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: the guy is super super competitive. You know. I didn't 365 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: when I was in Philly, we didn't see a lot 366 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: of the Arizona games. I would just see the highlights 367 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: and you see this guy running around making all these 368 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: ridiculous plays against Tennessee Minnesota. And I get out here 369 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: and this guy in him an ideal situation. He doesn't 370 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 1: leave the pocket, and I think that for me as 371 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: a pass catcher, I love playing with a quarterback like 372 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: that because he just wants to play on time, playing rhythm, 373 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 1: get the ball out of his hands, get the ball 374 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 1: to his guys, and let us make the play. So 375 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: he doesn't, but he knows that he has the luxury 376 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: if hey, we need to play or the plays breaking down, 377 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: he can take off. And so for me, Kyler is 378 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: the most talented quarterback player I've probably been around. Andrew 379 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: Luck is probably the best quarterback I've been around, and 380 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: Kyler has that ability. Obviously, I played with Andrew in college, 381 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: so I was kind of lucky to bless to experience 382 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: that at such a young age. Andrew was probably the 383 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: best leader I've been around, just he was always one 384 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: of the guys. He was always pushing people. He loved football, 385 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 1: super approachable. Carson is one of my best friends to 386 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: this day. Another guy that's huge, can make all the 387 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: throws super competitive, and I think the best ones I've 388 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: been around kind of have this competition factor that, hey, 389 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: no matter what's going on, they feel like they can 390 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: make a play. And I know Kyler does that in 391 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: terms of continuing to grow as a leader, which is 392 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 1: something that everybody's talked about with Kyler. And you talked 393 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: about the leadership of Andrew Luck, and I think it 394 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: was clear whether he was at Stanford or in the NFL. 395 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: I mean you could just see it the way he 396 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: interacted with his teammates, the way he carried himself on 397 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: the field. He was the guy everybody looked to him, 398 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 1: and everybody looks to Kyler because he's the most talented 399 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: guy on the field. But where does he need to grow. 400 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: When are you seeing some of that growth as a leader, 401 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: taking the next step in terms of being the guy 402 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,959 Speaker 1: that everybody looks to and believes in that he can 403 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: go out there and take you to the next level. Yeah, 404 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 1: I think everyone wants to finished products. Everyone wants instant success. 405 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: Everyone wants instant I would say gratification today. And people 406 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: forget how young Kyler is. He's twenty fourth, twenty five 407 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 1: years old. People want this guy that's Tom Brady leading 408 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: everyone onto the field. But Kyler's better now than he 409 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 1: was when I got here in October, and he's going 410 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 1: to continue to grow in that regard. I was. I 411 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 1: never talked when I was young in the NFL. I 412 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 1: would just do my thing, go to work, work my 413 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: butt off. I was like, I'm just gonna lead by 414 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,719 Speaker 1: example and if people want to join me, great, if 415 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 1: they don't. Whatever. Now I'm in year ten and I 416 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: kind of have more of a vocal role per se. 417 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: And Kyler's gonna find whatever works best for him in 418 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: this football team, and it's not going to be something 419 00:19:55,720 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: that's the prototypical way Kyler. Kids talk behind doors to 420 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 1: one on one We've talked many times about football. How 421 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: do you want certain things? How do you want certain 422 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: things that you need to be better at this? Kyler? 423 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: What do you think about me doing it this way 424 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: or whatnot. So just because he's not out there leading 425 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 1: in the typical fashion doesn't mean he's not a leader 426 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: of this football team. And I think that next step 427 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: for him is kind of taking more of that vocal role. 428 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: And I think it will happen. It's just going to happen, 429 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: maybe this year, maybe in a couple of years. But 430 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: he's definitely Everyone wants to point his lack of leadership 431 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: or whatever it is. I just don't think that's true. 432 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: And I don't even know that it's lack of leadership. 433 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: I think it's just maturity. It's growing, it's realizing. I mean, 434 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: I think about Larry Fitzgerald when he got here and 435 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: how it took Larry some time. Larry was twenty years 436 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: old when he came to the NFL. It took Larry 437 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 1: some time to understand the demands of being a superstar 438 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: player and what the media expects, what the public expects, 439 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: I mean, what your teammates expect. There's a lot that 440 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: goes into that we saw Kobe Bryant over the years grow. 441 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: People tell stories that Michael Jorge and would he come 442 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: in for a finals game. The first thing you do 443 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: would go sit down with TV, we go write in 444 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: answer all the questions, get up, go on to the 445 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: next thing. Because he understood there's all these peripheral things 446 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 1: you've got to do as part of being a superstar player. 447 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: I just think that's something Kyler's learning. He's always had 448 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: the attention on him. But look at Oklahoma. You know 449 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: they're trying to protect him. They're trying to make it 450 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 1: easy on him. In the NFL, you can't do that 451 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: because the demands are there. It's part of the collective 452 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: bargaining agreement. You have to do those things. Yeah, I 453 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: mean it's the access to players has probably never been easier, 454 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: and the demands as a player probably never been harder. 455 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 1: Just with social media, no matter where you go, everyone 456 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: is has their phone out. People can record you doing whatever, 457 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: and you're just always on and sometimes you just want 458 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: to be off. Sometimes you just want to go somewhere 459 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: and don't want to deal with anything. And and Philly, 460 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: for me, it was heightened out here. It's not as 461 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: bad as it was in Philly. But a guy like Kyler, 462 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: he's on every TV each and every day, and so 463 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: for him, he's gonna grow into it. He's gonna get 464 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 1: more and more comfortable and more and more confident in that. 465 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: And I mean, the sky's a limit for him. I'm 466 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: just gonna throw that. You're right, Yeah, you're right. The 467 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: kid is incredibly talented, and obviously all of us here 468 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: I want to see him played his potential because if 469 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: he does, they're gonna be some championships there. All right, 470 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: a couple more, we'll get you out of here. Tell 471 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 1: me about Trey McBride, which you think so far? Yeah, 472 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 1: Trey is obviously very talented. He's got really really good hands, 473 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: you know. I think when you watch him run around 474 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: catch football, you can tell it's super supernatural for him 475 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 1: to make plays with the football. Obviously, coming in young 476 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 1: player from a smaller school, got a lot to work on. 477 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 1: But I think he can be a guy that can 478 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: help us this year, and I would expect him to 479 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: find a role for sure. Obviously we got a lot 480 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: of playmakers in this offense. So even if he has 481 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: I think my rookie year I had about thirty six 482 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: forty catches something like that, And so even if he 483 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 1: has that, or even if he has less than that, 484 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: he can still have a great impact act on this team. 485 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 1: He's gonna have to find a role in the blocking 486 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: game obviously, as being a tight end, you have to 487 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: do that. And so I'm excited to see him in pads. 488 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: It's so tough to tell right now. We're kind of 489 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: playing grass basketball, sure, and then when the Pats come on, 490 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 1: I would say, in training, can't you find more about 491 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: especially tight ends and linemen, running backs and pass protection. 492 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: But he's definitely a good athlete and got really good hands. 493 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: I remember doing a game, an Oklahoma game at ESPN 494 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: the year Kyler won the Heisman, and it was very 495 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: clear that he and Hollywood had chemistry. There was they 496 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: played a game in Iowa State. We did him. He 497 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: was like week three and he had a a fifty 498 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: sixty yard pass to Hollywood, got behind the defense and 499 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: he just took the top off the defense and every 500 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: the rest of the game they were just concerned about Hollywood. 501 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: Is it pretty easy, even though, like you said, you're 502 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 1: not doing a whole lot to see that there is 503 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: some chemistry. I mean Kyler hasn't been here that often, 504 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: but based on conversations with Kyler or conversations with Hollywood, 505 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: if there's something that's already there intrinsically between the two, yeah, 506 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 1: I mean, I think you can definitely tell they're very 507 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: close friends. Yeah, they hang out a lot together. But 508 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: on the field, Hollywood is a guy that is extremely 509 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: extremely fast. I mean the first thing you see him 510 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 1: doing his role in when he's out there at receiver, 511 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: and I think it's a great addition for us because 512 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: he's very different than the other receivers and tight ends 513 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: we have on this team. He's a guy that the 514 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: safeties have to back up. And you know, de Hop 515 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 1: and I are guys that make a lot of contested catches. 516 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: We play over the middle of the field, and so 517 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: you need a guy that defenses are worried about. So 518 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: if they're so keyed in in the middle of the 519 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 1: field or DeAndre at the outside, you need a guy 520 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: on the other side that can just run by someone 521 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 1: for sixty yards. And it's hard to have fifteen sixteen 522 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: twenty play drives in the NFL consistently, but with a 523 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: guy like Hollywood Rondale, some of these guys that are 524 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 1: so fast that can make a play that they make 525 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: your offensive jobs easier, not only when they touch the ball, 526 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: but just for the fact that defenses have to account 527 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 1: for them. And so I'm excited to play with him. 528 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever played with the receiver that 529 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,679 Speaker 1: fast since Deshaun the first time. The second time he 530 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 1: didn't play a lot of football together, unfortunately, but the 531 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 1: first time, my rookie year, he was unbelievable, and so 532 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 1: hopefully it's kind of the same thing with him. I 533 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,199 Speaker 1: want to ask you about Hurts Family Foundation, some of 534 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: your charity work, but a couple of those silly questions. First, 535 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: donut Gate, how did it start? Where is donut Gate 536 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: right now? With you and JJ Man. First of all, 537 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: I'm the good guy here. It was five fifteen wake 538 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: up or whatever I say. Hey, the night before I'm 539 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: gonna go get the strength coach donuts, So it wasn't 540 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: about JJ. First of all, does Buddy Morris eat donuts? 541 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: I thought the guy eats steel. Bunny Morris is the goat. 542 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: Let's just we're just gonna say that. I don't know 543 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: what he eats, but he who loves these bosta donuts 544 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 1: out here. So I was like, hey, buddy, you're doing 545 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: a great job. You've been coming in for JJ, and 546 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: I early, I'm gonna get you. Get buddy some donuts. 547 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna surprise him with some donuts. JJ, I'm going 548 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: to Bosas. Do you want any donuts? He said, yeah, 549 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: that sounds awesome. I would love some donuts in the morning. 550 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 1: Pink or strawberry. I don't even know what they're called, 551 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: was his response, and Maple I said, okay, I'll see, 552 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 1: I'll see what I can do. So I go online. 553 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: It's so early, I don't want to call. I don't 554 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 1: feel like talking on the phone. I just order on 555 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: the little app. They don't have strawberry, they don't have pink. 556 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: The only thing that is close enough to that is cherry. 557 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, no one really wants a cherry donut, so 558 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: it can't be that. And then at that point I 559 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: was a little flustered. So I was like, I'm just 560 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 1: gonna order one of everything else. And apparently Maple wasn't 561 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: on the one of everything else, and JJ was disappointed. 562 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 1: But I got thirteen donuts or fourteen donuts, I were 563 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: many donuts. I got six of them were for the 564 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: strength coach perfectly ordered, and then for JJ's they weren't there. Unfortunately. However, 565 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: I think as a Cardinals player and a Cardinals fan, 566 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: everyone should be on my side because I'm looking out 567 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: for the best. JJ does not need donuts. He was 568 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: looking a little chubby on that Thursday, and I said, hey, 569 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: do you want to donuts? I know you really don't 570 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: need him. I'm not gonna get your donuts. Has it 571 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: been pretty cool too? You didn't get a chance to 572 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: play together a lot because of his injury, but hasn't 573 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: been cool to be around him. Both your wives are 574 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: pregnant at the same time. I don't know conception was 575 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 1: the same time. No, they'll do a little after us. 576 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 1: But it has been good. We only played one game 577 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 1: together unfortunately, my first game, but we've trained together all 578 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: off seasons, essentially been the two of us here in 579 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: Arizona in the off season. There's no need to leave 580 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 1: this building, so both of us would train here. It's 581 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: been good to get to know you know. Oftentimes, when 582 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 1: I was in Philly or an off season, I wouldn't 583 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 1: have someone that was willing to do what I would do, 584 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: not to make myself sound like I was doing something crazy, 585 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: but just the demands, I'd be there for a long 586 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 1: time or trained for a long time. And JJ's the 587 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: guy that is in there just as long as I am. 588 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 1: We're doing the same trainings each and every day, and 589 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 1: so it's been fun to get to know him. Our 590 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: wives are actually on like the youth national team since 591 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: they were seventeen or something like that together, so they've 592 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: known each other forever. But it's been good to get 593 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: to know him. And by asking these two questions, now 594 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 1: you have passed JJ's time. I think that he spent 595 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: on this podcast, so you can actually perfect I know 596 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: that that'll be a big point of conversation between the 597 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 1: two of you. The hair, it's the second time I 598 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: think in your career you showed up with blonde hair. 599 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: You did it in Philly once. Is here to stay 600 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,199 Speaker 1: or is this I don't know. It's kind of an 601 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: off season thing. Sometimes you just give board. Um, I 602 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: feel like you're gonna change it up. Julie likes it, 603 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: so every now and then I'll do it. Hey, yeah, 604 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm sticking to do the same thing 605 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: with my hair. I don't know. I think I don't know. 606 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: I usually have brows. I usually have the beard in 607 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: season and then because again on TV they this that way, 608 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: they don't stare at your head. They see the beard. 609 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: But in the off season, you know you're not on, 610 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: so it doesn't at all. Right, tell me about the 611 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: years Family Foundation, Tell me about all the charity work 612 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: that you're doing. Yeah, So years ago I went to 613 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: Haiti with Carson Wentz. We stayed at a place called 614 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: Mission of Hope, which was a mission backed by Faith. 615 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: And at the time when I first got into the NFL, 616 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: having a charity was always on my heart. I didn't 617 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: exactly know what I wanted to do, what Julie and 618 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: I wanted to do. And so I'll go down to 619 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: Haiti see all the amazing work they're doing, and then 620 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: I come home and I'm like, Julia, I don't know 621 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do, but having a charity back to 622 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: buy our faith and the hope in Jesus is what 623 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: we want to do. And so we started it in 624 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen and we for a long time or a 625 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: grant making organization in Philly. People would apply for money 626 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: for their charities, for their small nonprofits and through the 627 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: money that we were able to raise and through kind 628 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: of charity events, whether it be at the Link we 629 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: did one, whether it be at a golf tournament in 630 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: the Bay Area. We would use the as funds and 631 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: kind of just be a grant making an organization. And 632 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: then when COVID hit, everything kind of changed with the 633 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: demands in Philly. Schools were shut down for a long 634 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: long time, the mask mandates were there for a long time, 635 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: and these kids. The homicide rates in Philly were skyrocket 636 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: and kids were getting killed every other day. It was 637 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: just terrible. Your heart would break, and it got to 638 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: the point that we said we need to do something, 639 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,479 Speaker 1: and so Julie and my mom, we were in season. 640 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: They started just having a football program. We actually partnered 641 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: with an organization called Timoteo, which is a faith based 642 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: kind of flag football ministry outreach program, and so we 643 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: would kind of host after school football practice for kids 644 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: twice a week Tuesday Thursday. We would bring food and 645 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: we would start to reach out and be like, hey, 646 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: what do you guys want? What are your goals. It 647 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: ended up culminating in a football camp with the Watter 648 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: Camp kind of organization where we had I think thirty 649 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: colleges come out and kind of like a mock combine 650 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: because there wasn't any football being played that fall. So 651 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: it was like, how can we replicate that? How can 652 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: we still give kids opportunities? And I don't know the 653 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: final number of who got scholarships or who got the 654 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,479 Speaker 1: opportunity to continue from that, but that is leading us 655 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: to we are starting this thing called the House of Hope, 656 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: which is in Kensington and Philadelphia. It was a million 657 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: dollar raise for this house and it's gonna be a 658 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: safe place Wi Fi cafe for these kids to go 659 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: after school. It's going to be a church on Sundays, 660 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: and then it's gonna have tutoring. It's gonna have hopefully 661 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: financial literacy for the communities there, and it's just something 662 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: to help these kids have a place to go out 663 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: after school because when we were growing up, sports was 664 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: obviously paramount for us. My mom and we had it. 665 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: We played every sport in high school. I played football, 666 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: basketball in high school. I did track in the spring, 667 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: and then when that was my freshman year, and then 668 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: after that kind of more seven on seven stuff, But 669 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: that was always a thing that from three to seven, 670 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: three to six I was always doing something. My mom 671 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: wanted me always doing something, so I'll stay out of trouble. 672 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: And we want to give these kids the same opportunities. 673 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: If they don't play sports, whatever they're doing to hey, 674 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: we'll go to this place and hang out, stay out 675 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: of trouble, and just get some guidance in your life. 676 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: And so that we actually I think construction started officially 677 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: last week. Awesome, so we're really proud of that. And 678 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: then we're also now that we're hearing in Arizona. Obviously 679 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: we want to do something big here. I don't know 680 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: what it's going to be. Last year we did the meals, 681 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: so I think it was for every touchdown the offense scored. 682 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: I think we donated five thousand meals to some of 683 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: the local food banks. So we don't know exactly. And Philly, 684 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: we were there for a long time, so we understood 685 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: the needs of the community. Here we're still trying to 686 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: learn exactly what the needs of this community are. It's 687 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: a much different demographic, it's a much different landscape. Just 688 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: Philly was so small of a city. Phoenix is obviously 689 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: much bigger city in terms of mass mileage. So we 690 00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: would love to talk to people. I would love to 691 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: talk to people about how we can make a difference 692 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: here because it is important to Julie and I to 693 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: continue our Earth's Family Foundation out here. I think just 694 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: the fact that you want to be involved is great, 695 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: and that you want to make a difference and you 696 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: want your faith to be on display because you know, 697 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: as a Christian, people are watching you. They want to hear, 698 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: they want to see. They don't want to just hear, 699 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: they want to see your works and not just hear 700 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: what you have to say and hear you talk about it. 701 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: So the fact you want to get involved and the 702 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: fact you're already doing stuff here is pretty uh pretty cool. Man. 703 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: So thanks for your time, appreciate your sharing everything about 704 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: your family situation. Congratulations again man, and look forward to 705 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: seeing you this fall. Awesome, Thank you appreciate it. You 706 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: can just tell listening to Zach that he's a very 707 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: thoughtful guy. Great hearing about his heart for the community, 708 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: the Earth's Family Foundation, all the great things that he 709 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: and his wife Julie are doing in Philadelphia, some of 710 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: the things they started to do here in Arizona and 711 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: want to continue here in Arizona. We talked about the 712 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,479 Speaker 1: blonde hair. Is it here to stay or is it 713 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 1: just a passing fad, something to do in the summer. 714 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: We got into the donut gate a little bit, his 715 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: rivalry with the donuts with J. J. Watt, But more importantly, 716 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: Zach had some great thoughts on the offense and what 717 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,760 Speaker 1: his role might look like and how it could change 718 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: a little bit, maybe in the first six weeks of 719 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: the season for twenty twenty two without DeAndre Hopkins, but 720 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: great to catch up with Zach. Look forward to hearing 721 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 1: from him and hopefully he has a great season in 722 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. Was a very reliable pass catcher for 723 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: the Cardinals after coming over in a trade midseason. We 724 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: are presented by bet MGM, the official sports betting partner 725 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals, and by Hila River Hotels and Casinos. 726 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,760 Speaker 1: You can follow us on Twitter at pash Pot. Thanks 727 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: again to Zach Ertz. I'm Dave Pash. Thanks for listening 728 00:34:52,560 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 1: to the Dave Pash Podcast and n