1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: Ron Ananian evapp emissions are basically a way to vent 2 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: the gas that's in the tank into fuel system to 3 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: atmosphere without putting fumes into the atmosphere. 4 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 2: They vent out for a charcoal canister. The Car Doctor, Well, 5 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 2: you don't know that, you don't know. 6 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: You don't know that the symptoms not there cold the 7 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: first time you try it because you haven't done the 8 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: test yet. Yeah, that's true, right, you're assuming. 9 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 3: Welcome to the radio home of Ronananian, the Car Doctor. 10 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 3: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the 11 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 3: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 12 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 3: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick. 13 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: Up the phone and call in. The garage doors are open, 14 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: but I am here to take your call at eight 15 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: five five, five hundred and now. 16 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 4: Running. 17 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: Did I just do my last break job? I think 18 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: I did my last break job this week. I'll tell 19 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: it to you like this. You know, auto repairs a 20 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: funny thing, and maybe it's just the way my mind works, 21 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: but I have these memories of you know, when I 22 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: was a kid, right, how I learned the business, How 23 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: I learned to fix cars, and it came in segments, 24 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: it came in stages. Billy, I've talked about him. He 25 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: was my first real boss in a mechanic shop. He 26 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 1: was the first guy that took a chance on me, 27 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: and he showed me the business. He taught me, you know, 28 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: the basics, the mechanical things, not just how to take 29 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: something apart, but how to be mechanical. You know how 30 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: when you're trying to make a bolt shorter, you have 31 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: to put a nut on first. When you back the 32 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: nut off the bolt, you automatically channel the thread that 33 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: you don't leave it so that you can't thread it 34 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: into the hole. You're using the nut as a dye. 35 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: You know. That's that's what Billy taught me. It was 36 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: those simple things way back when it was Saturday morning. 37 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: Saturday morning was a big deal because I was I 38 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: was in college after high school obviously, and you know, 39 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: pumping gas for Billy and Gary was the was the 40 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: other mechanics name, but he wasn't an owner, and it 41 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: was my job on Saturday. I had to drive all 42 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: the way down to Hokus, New Jersey, which is four 43 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: or five towns over. But you know, for a high 44 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: school kid and back in the day it was, you know, 45 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: it was a twenty minute ride and it was a 46 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: big deal. I got to go to Hoocus because I 47 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: had to go to right to this one bakery that 48 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: had the Boston Cream donuts that Billy really liked, right, 49 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: And I remember that because you know, Billy liked his 50 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: Boston Cream donut on Saturday morning and we would sit 51 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: there and we would have coffee, and I developed a 52 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: taste for Boston creams and we would have coffee. And 53 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: it was a big deal, right. You know, You're eighteen 54 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: years old working in my mechanic shop. You're having a 55 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: Boston Cream donut with one of the best mechanics in 56 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: the area, and you're talking about what you're going to 57 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: do that day. The mark that it left on me 58 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 1: and the things I remember, and I remember the day 59 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: Billy taught me how to do breaks properly, because I 60 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: had done breaks, but not Billy's way. And Billy's way 61 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: was very methodical. It was very it was very detail oriented. 62 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: You know. He taught me about laying out your laying 63 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: out your parts ahead of time, and you take apart 64 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: one side before you take apart the other. Because this 65 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: was the day of drum breaks. Okay, we were doing 66 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: drum breaks and break springs, and if anybody's ever seen 67 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: break springs on drum breaks, you go, hmm, it's a 68 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: little daunting at first. And now I can take both 69 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: sides apart and do it with my eyes closed because 70 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: I've done so many of them, and you know, you 71 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: get triggered, right. Life's about the triggers that make you remember, 72 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: things that make you pause in that moment and say, hey, 73 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: was I here before? Or when was I here last? 74 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: This ninety two ninety two Buick Roadmaster came in the 75 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: shop this week for breaks. You know how hold that 76 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: car is. Well, I've been on radio almost thirty two years. 77 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: I started in ninety one, So you do the math, 78 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: all right. This is an old bugger, okay. And you 79 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: know was D fifty two pads up front. GMD fifty 80 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: two is big caliber as sixty two shoes in the rear. 81 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: Two by eleven. I mean, my god, I did one hundred. 82 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: If I did a thousand of these things, it seems like. 83 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: But doing this one this week, what I said to 84 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: myself was, I said, this has got to be the 85 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: last time I'm doing this combination, because how many of 86 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: these cars can be left. It all came back to 87 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: me about starting with Billy on Saturday morning, and donuts 88 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: had to be there at seven, right, because we had 89 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: to get to work on cars by seven thirty, and 90 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: coffee had to be drank, and conversations had to be had, 91 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: and Billy had to have his Boston Cream. And it's 92 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: easy when you remember that stuff, because you know the 93 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: little dab of I call it luberplate. You guys call 94 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: it yellow grease. Some guys call it white lithium grease. 95 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: To me, it's luberplate. The dab of luberplate on the 96 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: self adjuster and the star wheel, and the little drop 97 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: of oil on the pivot where it the self adjuster hinges, 98 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: and you know, the lubriplate or the yellow grease on 99 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: the backing plate, the contact point of the shoes, all 100 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: those little things that you do to do a proper 101 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: break job. And it was always a break job. It 102 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: was never a break repair. I don't know why that 103 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: language became that, but it was always a break job. 104 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: You know, I've got a break job to do, Bill, Okay, wrong, 105 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: go ahead, go get to it. And the D fifty 106 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: two pads and the sad thing is I remember doing 107 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: that first one with Billy. It's like he was at 108 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: my elbow this week, you know, talking to me in 109 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: my ear. And I remember doing that first one so 110 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: many years ago, you know, back in the late seventies, 111 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: and I said to myself, my god, if the part's 112 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: gotten cheaper. The rattle clips for the brake pads that 113 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: go on the inside of the piston caliber, I had 114 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: to bend them to shape them to make them fit. 115 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: Peen a relief, as my friend Jeff always says to me, 116 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: you got a peena relief to make parts work nowadays. 117 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: And you know, just having to grind the backing plate 118 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: where the shoe sits is notched. This ninety two Bui 119 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: Roadmaster has two hundred and thirty five thousand miles on it, 120 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: and the shoes where it sits against the backing place 121 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: are so badly nuts. The shoe won't move freely. It's 122 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: like stuck in the groove. And I had to take 123 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: out the small grinder and grind a flat spot to 124 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: give the shoe a square, flat surface to sit against 125 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: so it'll pivot and move freely. You know, all the 126 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: little things making sure you loub the grease point where 127 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: the one spring for the rear shoe goes over. Making 128 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: sure you've got the small shoe up front, the primary 129 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: break shoe, and the bigger shoe, the secondary break shoe 130 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: in the back. You know, all the little details, loubing 131 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: the caliber bushings, making sure that the calipers slide freely, 132 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: and you're saying to yourself, is this the last time 133 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: I'm going to do this? It's a weird feeling, it 134 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: really is. It made me think, you know, what's today's 135 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: technician going to remember when they're you know, when they're 136 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: in their twilight, you know, when they're coming to the end. 137 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying I'm coming to the end. I'm 138 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: just saying it just makes me look back and think, 139 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: you know what will they remember? I wonder if the 140 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: mechanics are the text of today. I wonder if they've 141 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: got a billion in their life. I wonder if they've 142 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: got a you know, a Boston Cream donut and a 143 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: cup of coffee on Saturday morning ritual. You know, how 144 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: do they learn? Has it changed all that much? And 145 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: what are they going to remember? Putting computers in cars? 146 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: Are they going to remember the struggler? Are they going 147 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: to remember the fun times. Ought to repair is a 148 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: great business ort to repair the process, the art of 149 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: order repair is really something and you've got to walk 150 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: the walk to understand this. But you know, you've got 151 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: to treasure it because it's very unique. It's something that 152 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: not a lot of people can do, not a lot 153 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: of people can do well. And there's some great memories 154 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: in order repair that define who you are at times. 155 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: You know, I can look at certain cars and the 156 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:28,239 Speaker 1: memories come come right back, you know, they come right back. 157 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: And some of the little tricks that you learned along 158 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: the way doing those set of D fifty two is 159 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: making sure that those pads don't clap on the outboard 160 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 1: of the caliber, you know, that they don't rock around, 161 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: that they stay in place, peening the ears, and the things. 162 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 5: That you do. 163 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: I don't know too many jobs that would make me 164 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: remember something from fifty years ago, right, you know, I 165 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 1: just don't know. I just it's funny, it's it's very fortunate. 166 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: It's a good place to be. So just perspective was 167 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: that my break job. Will I ever do another set 168 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: of D fifty twos? And I said to myself, Yeah, 169 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: I would, because the hot rod's got D fifty twos 170 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: on it. But the hot rod's gone six thousand miles 171 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: in twelve years, so I hardly get the drive that. 172 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: That's a whole nother story. So anyway, hello and welcome 173 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: running ending the car doctor. Thank you for allowing me 174 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 1: to kind of look back a little bit. I like 175 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: looking back, you know, it's it's there's a lot of 176 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: life in looking back and gaining perspective and realizing where 177 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 1: you were and where you've come to. You know, it's 178 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: just fun to look back sometimes, especially in the world 179 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: of cars. Speaking of looking back, which I should point out, 180 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:37,719 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's up there yet, but it's 181 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: coming up. I think. This week we had a customer 182 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: with a nineteen sixty six Cadillac El Dorado convertible. All right, 183 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: the car's so big, I don't think I don't think 184 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: it would fit in Rhode Island, and it just just 185 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: just big. And we shot a little video he had 186 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: brought up by the shop. He's putting it up on 187 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: bring a trailer. He's gonna sell it, which I it's 188 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: a shame. It's a gorgeous car. It's just it's an 189 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: all original you know. It's a survivor car. It needs 190 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: a little nip and tuck here and there, but it's 191 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: all there. And you know, we shot a quick video 192 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: of it, you know, the shot down the side. We 193 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: almost had enough film to shoot the side of the car. 194 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: The car went on for so long, it was so big. 195 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: And you know, that'll be up on YouTube this week. 196 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: There's a part one and a part two. Four twenty 197 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 1: nine cubic eng engine, four barrel and the front seat 198 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: you could put four people across the front bench seat. Literally, 199 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 1: that's how wide this car is. It's just just colossal. 200 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: So that'll be up on YouTube this week. And I 201 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: also want to point out too, we hit one thousand 202 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: subscribers now on YouTube, and I want to thank all 203 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: you guys for being there to subscribe to the channel 204 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: and just keep them coming because we're growing. We're coming 205 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: on fast. We're gonna we're gonna dominate the category. So 206 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: let's pull over, take a pause. Eight five, five, five 207 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: six nine nine zero zero. I'm running Indie in the car, doctor, 208 00:10:53,320 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 1: and I'll be back right after this. O. God, that's right. 209 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 5: If you call and we're not live, you can leave 210 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 5: a message and we'll call you back to get you 211 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 5: on the air with Ron eight five five five six 212 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 5: zero nine nine zero zero. 213 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: Speaking of Ron here he is. Hey, let's go over 214 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: and talk to Stephen Virginia, Steve. Welcome to the car doctor, sir. 215 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 1: What's going on? 216 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 4: Ye? Yes? How you doing? 217 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 6: Good? 218 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: Sir? What's cooking? 219 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 4: I've got a two thousand and four f two fifty pickup, okay, 220 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,599 Speaker 4: and the last couple of years I don't drive a 221 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 4: vehicle more in just two thousand dollars a year, and 222 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 4: about thirty per cent of the time when I put 223 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 4: it in the reverse, it'll start to take off in 224 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 4: it kind of jerks and they'll just shut the motor down, 225 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 4: all right, And like I say, it's kind of hitting 226 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 4: this and some day's worse than others. 227 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: You know, gus engine five to four? Yes, okay. Anybody 228 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: diagnosed any morning lights on the dashboard, any any pattern 229 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: that's common to it, or it just kicks up any time, 230 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: any mind of its own. 231 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 4: I had a guy, there's a lot of work for me. 232 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 4: They googled it, put it on the machine, and the 233 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 4: only thing they could come up with is they replace 234 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 4: the speedometer in it, and that seemed to help it 235 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 4: for a little while and then it just you know, 236 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 4: started back up. Okay, but it just kind of comes 237 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 4: and goes. You know, some days it doesn't do it, 238 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 4: and some days it'll do it. That every time you 239 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 4: put it in reverse. Right when you've had a friend's 240 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 4: got a transmission shop, he said, it's definitely not in 241 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 4: the transmission. 242 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: Okay, So when it does it and it stalls, and 243 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: it may not be in the transmission, but let me 244 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 1: say this, it's got to be somewhere between the fenders, right, 245 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: So anything's possible. You know, when it when it stalls, 246 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: is it a harder engagement than when it does not stall. 247 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 4: Yes, it's like if you put it in reverse and 248 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 4: it'll like start to go and then it just jerks 249 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 4: and stops. 250 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: Right, But is it a bang? In other words, is 251 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: it when you when you go bang? 252 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 4: It's just a no noise? Really? 253 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: But okay, so when you go from park to reverse 254 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: on the times that it doesn't stall, versus park to 255 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: reverse on the times that it does stall, it's the 256 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: same engagement. Feel It's there's no harshness to it. 257 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 4: Uh no, not in normal when it works it you know, 258 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 4: it's smooth. But when it's dead and it'll it it 259 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 4: just kind of takes off and you know it'll just 260 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 4: kind of jerky. 261 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: Right. Listen, listen, listen to my question when when it 262 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: when it engages normally okay, versus when it engages installs, 263 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: is it harsher when it engages installs? 264 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 4: I would say it's a little harsher. 265 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: Okay. As stupid as this sounds, has anybody verified trans 266 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: fluid level? 267 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 3: No? 268 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 4: I mean they serviced it, and you know they checked all. 269 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: That, Okay, but I can double check just because that 270 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: particular trans if the trans fluid is low, and the 271 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: way we would check this is we put some pressure 272 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: gauges on the trans If the trans pressure drops, it 273 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: can cause the converter to lock or partially apply. All right, 274 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: that's that that transmission has a lock up converter, so 275 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: that when you're cruising along in top gear. Actually that 276 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: should be a five speed I think is that a 277 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: five speed trans I believe it is in fourth and fifth? 278 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: It will it will, it will lock up the converter. 279 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: See ideally, if it did it on a consistent basis, 280 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: we could look at it on a scan tool and 281 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: see converter reply, converter not apply okay, But the fact 282 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: that it's it's so random and intermittent, it's we've got 283 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: to catch it in the act. But trans fluid condition 284 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: trans fluid level can affect whether or not the converters 285 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: coming on or not. All right, if we want it 286 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: to go with what your buddy with the trans shop 287 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: is saying that he's that it's not in the trends, 288 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: then we've got to think, you know, do we have 289 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: something electrical? Is is the PCM losing its mind that 290 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: it doesn't know where to turn the vehicle to run, 291 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: how to run the vehicle that it shuts it off clean? 292 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: Is this is this shutting off clean Steve? Or does 293 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: it kind of huggle down it just like it turned 294 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: off the. 295 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 4: Key, right, It's just like you turn it right off. Okay, 296 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 4: But it'll it'll it'll take off and it'll kind of 297 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 4: jerk and cut off, okay. 298 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: And then it'll restart right away. 299 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I can restart it now. I will say this. 300 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 4: It's done it before just a couple three times in 301 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 4: the last two years probably where when I went to 302 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 4: put it in drift it kind of did the same thing. 303 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, Well, any time, you know, does it ever 304 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: stall come into a stop. No, okay, just be mindful 305 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: the next time it goes to stall, if you can 306 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: catch it, pop it into neutral, does it does it 307 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: regain its composure? All right? 308 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'll try that, you. 309 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: Know, if you can catch it before it happens, if 310 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: you can pop it into neutral and the engine regains itself. 311 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: Does the engine idle at normal speeds eight nine hundred rpm, 312 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: put it in gear and it drops down six to 313 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: seven hundred a pm, that kind of thing. 314 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, it idles finnd all right, higher mileing the mileage 315 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 4: on it about one hundred and ten thousand, Okay, it's. 316 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: Not a lot. Somebody's gone through the basics and as 317 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: far as I was throttle body. 318 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 4: Cleanling this, Steve, Yeah, it's it's it's a good shake. 319 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah, you were going to say something. 320 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 4: Where I you know, where I turn and back into 321 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 4: where I park it. I'm kind of on the heal 322 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 4: my driveway, right and I'll have a lot of times 323 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 4: I'll have my foot on the brake, okay, and I'll 324 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 4: when I go to put it in the reverse. You know, 325 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 4: it's almost maybe sometimes worse when I've got my foot 326 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 4: on the brake when I first do it, versus if 327 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 4: you're just sitting in the one, you know, go to 328 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 4: put it in reverse? 329 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: Break break pedal. 330 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 4: Feel, okay, like it makes a difference. 331 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: Break pedal feel okay, Like it's got normal power, yes, okay, 332 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: normal vacuum. 333 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 4: You know. 334 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: The issue here is it's once every three months, six months, 335 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: two years. How do you replicate it? Right? 336 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 5: Why? 337 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 4: No, I mean it, it'll do it every other day. 338 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, Well, well today I've been in it 339 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 4: water and some trees and I haven't had a problem. 340 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: Okay. 341 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 4: The last time I'm in it this week, it was 342 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 4: like every time I put in a verse, it was 343 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 4: backing up. 344 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: All right, So what I would be looking for? Then, 345 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: let me say it like this, if you can get 346 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: it to happen on a consistent or semi consistent basis 347 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: where a mechanic can catch it in the act, I 348 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: plug in a scan tool. I would go through the 349 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: transmission functions. Does the curder, does the converter reply, Do 350 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: we see converter lock on coming on? Does the transmission 351 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 1: recognize the break switch as being on that it sees 352 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: the input? Start looking at normal transmission functions in terms 353 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: of what gear is it applying and calling for and 354 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: are they applying and coming on correctly? I would go 355 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: through the trans first, I would verify fluid level and 356 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: then I would start looking at engine function, fuel trim, throttle, 357 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: body throttle position, sensor, things like that. I'm running any 358 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: in the car doctor. I'll be back right after this. 359 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: Don't go away, Welcome back, run an Anie in the 360 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: card doctor here at a five five five six zero 361 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero again a five to five five 362 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: six zero nine nine zero zero. 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What's going on here? Paul? 373 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 6: Well and having a hard time filling the gas tank. 374 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 6: I know it's the last week and a half. I 375 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 6: get to like two stations that I frequent all the time, 376 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 6: and those two stations I didn't having trouble with it. 377 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 6: I can hear it coming up to two. It keeps 378 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 6: kicking off, kicking off, taking off. I have to nurse 379 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 6: it to what I suspect is full because I don't 380 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 6: want it to flood over. I didn't have one time 381 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 6: where it flooded over. Okay, but just yesterday I went 382 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 6: to a different gas station, threw it in and it 383 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 6: worked perfect. I don't get it. 384 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: Well, so you're saying you don't have the problem. You 385 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: have a problem at these two stations, but not the third. 386 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,959 Speaker 6: Yeah, and the two stations are owned by a small operator, 387 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 6: and I don't want to say it takes the best 388 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 6: care of his equipment. A lot of times he's had 389 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 6: leaking nozzles and hoses and stuff, priceless, right. 390 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: Right, Well, you get what you pay for, right, Uh? 391 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 5: You know? 392 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: And I mean you do you know? Can you go 393 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: to a fourth station? Can you go to a fifth stage? 394 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 6: Actually? 395 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 4: Yeah? 396 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 6: Actually, like I say, I stopped at a completely different station, 397 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 6: put it in, so right up, shut off, no problem. 398 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: Okay, Then I'm going to say it's I'm going to 399 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: say it's his pumps, not not not the vehicle. Right, 400 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 1: It's it's really that simple. 401 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 6: That christ came across my mind. I do have one 402 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 6: other little nagging problem. 403 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: Well here, let me let me ask you this question. 404 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 1: Do you have a gas can? Do you have a 405 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: gas can? Do you have another vehicle? Do you have 406 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: a different vehicle you can take to theoretically the problem station. 407 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 6: Oh, I see what you man. Yes, right, you can 408 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 6: do that. 409 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 1: You know, if you've got a gas can and you 410 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 1: can't fill the gas can at that problems, then I'm 411 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: going to tell you it's definitely the station. 412 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 6: Well, let's see. I just I just remember last last 413 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 6: weekend I was up in Maine at an irving station 414 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 6: and I had to put in over forty dollars. But 415 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 6: I had to nurse it there too. 416 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: So maybe the problem. Maybe the problem is the vehicle. 417 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: So we've got to decide, right, we've got to take note. 418 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: Let's let's just talk about what happens when you put 419 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: fuel in a vehicle. All right, so you have a 420 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: general understanding. 421 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 6: Okay, Oh, one thing that might change that is, yeah, 422 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 6: I tend to pop off a little after the first 423 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 6: kickoff and then a couple more times. Stop doing that, 424 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 6: And I don't know if I may have damaged some. 425 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 1: Well, you might have stopped doing the all right, you know, 426 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 1: it's if it's at forty five cents, you know, if 427 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: it's if it's you know, fifteen forty five, make it 428 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 1: fifteen fifty. If it's you know, if it's at fifteen 429 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: eighty eight, make it sixteen bucks, don't make it seventeen dollars. 430 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: All right, you know you don't need to. Okay, well, 431 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: because you're gonna you know what what you're going to 432 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: do is you're going to overfill the system. It can 433 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: it can get drawn in, contaminate the vent, contaminate the purge, 434 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: oversaturate the canister. You can create all sorts of issues. 435 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: So let me just tell you real quick about I 436 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: just want to cover this. Okay. When you put gas 437 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 1: in a can, like for the snowblower, the lawnmower, whatever, 438 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: you put the can on the ground, you have to 439 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: open up that vent, right, you have to open up 440 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 1: that vent on the other side. Yeah, otherwise you can't 441 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 1: put fuel in the tank, right the can the can 442 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: starts to bulge and hiss and make noise at you 443 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: and the pump clicks off seven times, and automobile is 444 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: the same way. Paul, all right, it's there's gotta be 445 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: a vent. A vehicle, a modern fuel system has a 446 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: purge valve up front, it has a vent valve in 447 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: the back, or some variation thereof. If we wanted to 448 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 1: attack this from a diagnostic perspective, and I was going 449 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 1: to do this, you know, for a week, under the 450 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: under the watchful eye of my mechanic, I would disconnect 451 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: the vent line going into what Chrysler calls the ESUM, 452 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: the Evaporate of System Integrity Monitor Canister US. It's attached 453 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 1: to the charcoal canister. I would disconnect the feed line 454 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 1: going into that. That would provide open air venting, but 455 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: at least for the purpose of our diagnosis. If the 456 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: problem no longer happens at that station on a consistent basis, yeah, 457 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 1: you're going to turn the check engine light eventually on, 458 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 1: but we're diagnosing something, then I'm going to tell you 459 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: that the problem is in the vehicle, and it's it's 460 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: probably on the canister E side of things. If the 461 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: problem continues to happen, then I'm going to tell you 462 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: we've got to start to neck it down. There have 463 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: been problems with the valving in the top of the 464 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: fuel tank of Chrysler products, and I have seen many 465 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: a case where we've had to actually put fuel tanks 466 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: in vehicles. So it's not impossible. It's how the baffling 467 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 1: is put together. You had a second question. 468 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 6: Yes, let's see, I had a I keep getting the 469 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 6: check engine lights. It goes on and off, and every 470 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:08,479 Speaker 6: time I get a readout on it, it says that 471 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 6: there's a problem. There's a po four thirty with one 472 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 6: of the catalytic converse to the bank two. Now, I 473 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 6: had a situation where I had to drive back from 474 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 6: ain Limp home six hours with a lot of misfiring 475 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 6: on the load. I got home, I got some cat 476 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 6: clean in it, cleaned it up, everything was fine. The 477 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,479 Speaker 6: problem solved. However, I had a tour converter replaced on it, 478 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 6: and I as soon as I did that, I started 479 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 6: getting the check engine light. Check engine light coms. It 480 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 6: goes all by itself. 481 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: Zero zero four thirty again. 482 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 4: Yeap, Matt. 483 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 6: Now I'm wondering if they might have being a been 484 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 6: the wiring or something. 485 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 1: Now, let me ask you this. You wouldn't connection how 486 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 1: many how many miles are on this vehicle? 487 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 6: Poll one? 488 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: When did you put spark plugs in it? 489 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 6: Let's see five place went in new coils and plugs. 490 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: Eleven twenty okay, what mileage? All right, so you're you're 491 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: in the middle of that cycle when it started to misfire. 492 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: Did the misfiring clear up on its own? Or did 493 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 1: you have to do something to it? 494 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 6: No? I had I saw it and had it. Someone 495 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 6: checked and say me, you got multiple misfiring. I got home, 496 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 6: I made an appointment with a mechanic. He put in 497 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 6: a all new coils and plugs. That's the care of it. 498 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: Okay. Oh back in eleven twenty, yeah, okay, but just recently, 499 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 1: just recently, you said you had missfire. Oh okay, but 500 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: didn't you say just recently you had missfires? 501 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 6: No, No, it was only at that occasion. 502 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: Okay, So you had missfires four years ago? 503 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 6: Yep. And he put in the new plugs and wires. Okay, coils, 504 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 6: everything's been fine. 505 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: So so so tell me about the trip back Remain 506 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: where you said you had a problem. 507 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 6: Well, it was misfiring when you put a good load 508 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 6: on it. So I had to kind of limp back 509 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 6: six hours. I mean that was the normal driving time. 510 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 6: It was around seven and a half limping deck, right, 511 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 6: So I was worried about the converter, but like I say, 512 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 6: the guy put in the plugs and the coils and 513 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 6: everything was fine after that until I had that torque 514 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 6: converter change. 515 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: How long ago was the torman? How long ago is 516 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: the torqu converter change? 517 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 6: Paul, Let's see tor converter ten twenty two. 518 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: Okay, two years later, yep, yeah, one has nothing to 519 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: do with the other. Not two years later, my friend. 520 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 6: Well, I was wondering if they were bumbling with the 521 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 6: wiring or maybe they left the exhaucemanifold gasket loose or 522 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 6: something that would interfere with that reading. 523 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: Deck to create the catalytic converter issue. Yeah they could. 524 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: I mean an exhaustly can effect and cause cat efficiency faults. 525 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: Do you still have the fault code today? 526 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 6: Actually it came back on today. I had a check 527 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 6: to it's given that same reading on it. 528 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: Okay, So it sounds like catalytic converter on Bank two 529 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 1: is dying a slow death. Have you ever considered the 530 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: fact that what does Bank one look like. 531 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 6: Never got a bad readout on it? 532 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: Okay? Well, the fact that you don't get a bad readout? 533 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: Do you do you have any idea how a computer 534 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: generates false codes fault codes? You ever, stop and think 535 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: about this, all right? In thirty seconds or less? Okay, 536 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: A catalytic converter has to be seventy percent efficients for 537 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: the sake of this conversation. If it's if it's seventy 538 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: one percent efficient, it's it's not going to it's it's 539 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: a better number. Right, it has to be seventy or better. 540 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: It has to be seventy percent or better, all right. 541 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: If it's seventy one, it won't set a fault code. 542 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: If it's sixty nine, it's going to set a fault code. 543 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 1: If Bank two is it at seventy at sixty nine 544 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 1: and Bank one is at seventy one, they're both so 545 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: close to each other, they're right on the borderline. A 546 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: typical cattle being the eighty five percent tile have your mechanic, 547 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: go use Mote six diagnostics and check Bank one end 548 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: Bank two to see what it's failing or passing. Great 549 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: is and make a decision. But it sounds like for 550 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: my money. You've got a catalytic converter that's borderline, that's 551 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: failing as long as there are no other extenuating circumstances 552 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: like exhaust leaks. I gotta run ron an Any and 553 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: the car doctor. I'll be back right after this. Welcome back, 554 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: run an Any in the car doctor. 555 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 5: Here. 556 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: Let's get over and talk to James in Cornwall, New York. 557 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: James around the car doctor. What's going on? 558 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:40,719 Speaker 4: Hi? Roy? 559 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 5: How you doing? 560 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: Good sir? What's up? 561 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 5: So? I got a two twenty nineteen g Cherokee and 562 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 5: the driver's side seat motor. Well, it wasn't going up 563 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,479 Speaker 5: and down. There's the two levers right, go up up 564 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 5: and down and back and forth? 565 00:28:58,760 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: Right. 566 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 5: So I brought to the car dealership. They diagnosed it. 567 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 5: They said it was a bad motor in the seat. 568 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: Okay. 569 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,479 Speaker 5: I picked it up and it was the same problem. 570 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 5: They charged me for it two thousand dollars. Wow, and 571 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 5: they didn't fix it. I said. They said they couldn't 572 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 5: give me the car unless I paid. So I paid. 573 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 5: You know, I was upset about that, but I want 574 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 5: to find out just some information. If it's a bad motor, 575 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 5: can it go back and forth? 576 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: And not and not up and down doesn't doesn't sound 577 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: right like? Yeah, well, well, actually I take that back. 578 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: They're probably I don't I'm not familiar with that system 579 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: without seeing it, but I'm going to say that there's 580 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: likely two motors here. There's a back and forth motor 581 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: and an up and down motor, depending upon how the 582 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: seat transmission is assembled. Go back to, go back to. 583 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: They wouldn't give you the car without but they didn't 584 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: fix it. 585 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 5: They didn't. It wasn't fixed. So right now I'm in 586 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 5: limbo there. I'm bringing it back next week. And and 587 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 5: they said they just have to take the switch. I 588 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 5: guess there's a switch you have to replace. They said 589 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 5: it would be a quick thing, and they said we'll 590 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 5: cover that, which I think is kind of sounds shady 591 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 5: to me, right, it sounds like. 592 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: It sounds like it sounds like this. It sounds like 593 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: the switch is the actual problem and they misdiagnosed it. 594 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's the exact answer. That's the exact answer 595 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 5: I'm looking for. So when I go back to dealership, 596 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 5: I can basically argue with them. I don't know if 597 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 5: they're gonna, you know, in kind yeah, respond. 598 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: What are you going back James Thursday. All right, do 599 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: me a favor. Can you remember Ron at cardoctorshow dot com? 600 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: Of course my email? 601 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was recommended to you. I was recommended to 602 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 5: you by Mike from Montgomery. 603 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: Okay, so I know the name. But then I've got 604 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: a lot of mics. But do me a favor. Send 605 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: me the seventh teen digit then, all right, you know 606 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: the serial number of the vehicle. I want to I 607 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: want to go look at a wiring diagram because I'm 608 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: fairly certain that the seat motors are on the can bus, 609 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: meaning they're on the network. And if that's the case, 610 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: I want you to go in there and ask them 611 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: when they diagnosed it. Did anybody plug in a scan 612 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: tool and look to see if the motors were actually 613 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: talking to the others on the network. In other words, 614 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: did anybody go and check the computer network and see 615 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: where the computer's talking to each other? I you know, 616 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I mean, it's it's simple stuff. 617 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: It's just if they look at you like it in 618 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: the headlights, Yeah, that's you know, if they look at 619 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: you and say, well that's not possible, you're gonna I'm 620 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: gonna send you a wiring diagram, and I'm going to 621 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: point out where the CANbus talks to the motors. If 622 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: that's the case, If the CANbus talks to the motors, 623 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: that's the way I would have diagnosed it. What I've 624 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: typically seen on a lot of Chrysler is Chrysler's one 625 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: of those vehicles where if the can bus get gets overloaded, 626 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: if the couter network is you now you have to 627 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: reboot the router at home sometimes to make the internet work. 628 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: I've seen that. I've seen that with Chrysler product too, 629 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: So they need a reboot. You know, they get a 630 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: blue screen of death. 631 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 5: That you can't charge. 632 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, they charge you too much money, brother, Yeah bo it. 633 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 5: Charregs me two hundred plus the motor and I didn't 634 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 5: have a warranty, so that was partially my fault. 635 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: And how many miles? How many miles on this car? 636 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 5: Only forty five? 637 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: Yeah? So does it sound right to you? And I'm 638 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: not saying it's impossible, but forty five thousand miles? How 639 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: many times do you use that seat motor? You're the 640 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: only driver or they are multiple drivers for this vehicle. 641 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 5: I don't I don't drive it that off And my 642 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 5: wife drives. She's a teacher. She drives at the school, 643 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 5: and it barely gets changed. Maybe the seat gets changed 644 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 5: maybe once a week. And most right. 645 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: I'd be I'd be complaining to the dealership. I'd be 646 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: complaining to Chrysler. Send me that, Send me that, Vin James. 647 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: Let me let me see what I can do for you. 648 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: So let me run I got I'm up against. You're 649 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: very welcome. Send me that email. Yeah, bye bye. I'm 650 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: running any in the card doctor. That doesn't sound right. 651 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: Something's cock eyed there. I'm running any in the car doctor. 652 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:10,719 Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. 653 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 5: I came the. 654 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 3: First real sixtring. 655 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: I didn't out the. 656 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 4: Father, and. 657 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: It's in the fingers. It was the summer of sixteen. 658 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: I remember someone once told me about auto repair. They said, 659 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: you know, bad days are like grapes. They come in 660 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: bunches and and well, I can't say that really is true, 661 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: because well it does, it has its moments. But let 662 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: me take you in the shop and talk to you 663 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: a little bit courtesy of what I zone about what 664 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: a what a crazy day in order repair can look like. 665 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: And it was it was Tuesday and Wednesday this past 666 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,719 Speaker 1: week actually where it got a little nutty. I'm not 667 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: sure why. I think just for whatever reason, we just 668 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: hit that magic point in the schedule where everybody wanted 669 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: to do cabin and air filters, and if we did one, 670 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 1: we did twenty. It's like every car got cabin in 671 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 1: air filters. It was the craziest thing, and every cabin filter. 672 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 1: One cabin filter was dirtier than the next. As a 673 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 1: matter of fact, the cabin filters are so dirty and disgusting. 674 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: Hope nobody's eating lunch. The cabin filters are so dirty 675 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: and disgusting. We actually shot some videos. We're gonna have 676 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 1: some YouTube videos up about it because you see the 677 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: junk that's in there. One cabin filter had acorns and 678 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: mouse droppings in it all right. Another one had animal 679 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: urine on it that the animals were nesting in the 680 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,800 Speaker 1: cabin filter. So, you know, thank god for AutoZone because 681 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,800 Speaker 1: it was like Honda Toyota, Honda Toyota, Honda Toyota. Again. 682 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: I think we depleted our local AutoZone of all the 683 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,320 Speaker 1: filters that would normally fit a Honda Civic because it 684 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: seems like that's what we kept doing. So kudos to AutoZone. 685 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: They kept the supply lines open and kept us moving forward, 686 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 1: and we were able to service every cabin in airfilter 687 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 1: we had this week, but oh lordy, what a mess. 688 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: Just keep an eye on them filters, folks. It helps 689 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 1: keep you and the car both in great shape until 690 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: the next time I'm running ay in the car. Doctor, 691 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. 692 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 5: See you