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Speaker 2: So as we of course continue to focus on Aran,

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Speaker 2: we did not want to lose sight of some of

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Speaker 2: the other fronts in this war, in particular Israel's invasion

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Speaker 2: of Lebanon and some ongoing programs in the West Bank

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Speaker 2: that are truly horrifying. Let's go ahead and start with Lebanon.

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Speaker 2: Here we can put these images up on the screen.

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Speaker 2: I mean, here you see effectively an entire village that

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Speaker 2: is just completely destroyed, blown up by the Israelis. You

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Speaker 2: now have a level of mass displacement in Lebanon that

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Speaker 2: approaches some of the worst conflicts in the world, and

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Speaker 2: obviously this just happened in a very short period of times.

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Speaker 2: You have over one million people in Lebanon, civilians who

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Speaker 2: are internally displaced from southern Lebanon, and you can see

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Speaker 2: just the absolute destruction here. Of course, there have been

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Speaker 2: very high death tolls and very high civilian death tolls

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Speaker 2: as well. Let me go ahead and put this up

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Speaker 2: on the screen though, because this will not be a

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Speaker 2: surprised that anyone who watches this show, But just so

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Speaker 2: you know, Israeli officials making it very plain what their

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Speaker 2: goal is here with regard to this invasion of Lebanon.

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Speaker 2: Smotrich urges Israel to annex southern Lebanon as assault intensifies.

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Speaker 2: Israel's far right Minister of Finance Bezalielsmotrich has urged his

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Speaker 2: country to annic southern Lebanon as the military has destroyed bridges,

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Speaker 2: will come back to that and homes in an intensified

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Speaker 2: assault on the area. And an Israeli radio interview on

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Speaker 2: Mondaysmochrit said the bombardment of Lebanon needs to end with

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Speaker 2: a different reality entirely, which includes a quote change.

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Speaker 4: Of Israel's borders.

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Speaker 2: Quote I say here definitively, in every room and in

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Speaker 2: every discussion too. The new Israeli border must be the

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Speaker 2: Latani he said, referring to the Latani River, a critical

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Speaker 2: waterway that cuts through southern Lebanon, about nineteen miles from

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Speaker 2: the border with Israel. His comments come as Israel continues

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Speaker 2: to carry out deadly attacks on Lebanon, striking residential buildings

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Speaker 2: and other civilian infrastructure, which the UN has already said

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Speaker 2: aunt may amount to war crimes.

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Speaker 4: So Sager, greater.

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Speaker 2: Israel project, here we go, and it's not just Listen.

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Speaker 2: People love to dismiss him as some just like, oh,

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Speaker 2: he's just some.

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Speaker 4: Far right crime. No, this is a government.

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Speaker 2: He is a part of this government, a very influential one,

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Speaker 2: by the way, who has gotten his way in many

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Speaker 2: other instances. And oftentimes characters like him are the ones

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Speaker 2: who will just say it outright is actually happening with

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Speaker 2: the thinking and what the goals are behind the scenes.

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Speaker 2: So you should absolutely believe him when he says that

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Speaker 2: this is the goal and this is what they're going

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Speaker 2: to try to Anstey.

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Speaker 3: Look, if you've been watching the show we talked about

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Speaker 3: this literally last week we said, what is that The

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Speaker 3: Israeli security people were putting out calls we have to

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Speaker 3: evacuate the population from the Latani River or above the

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Speaker 3: Latani River, and that means usually what mass ethnic displacement.

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Speaker 3: Then they said, what, well, you will not be allowed

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Speaker 3: to return until Hezbola is no longer a threat. De

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Speaker 3: facto annexation and security control and now oh, let's just

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Speaker 3: annex it. Do you see how this all this is

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Speaker 3: the span of one week, and he's saying, you know,

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Speaker 3: all the classic stuff. We cannot return to October sixth,

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Speaker 3: where the enemy is on our fences. We will push

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Speaker 3: them away on all fronts and create a sterile security

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Speaker 3: cordon that will separate the enemy from our citizens. The

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Speaker 3: they basically want to recreate the Gaza situation and turn

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Speaker 3: far as smow Trich. But de facto annexation is basically

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Speaker 3: the same as annexations like the West Bank, which we're

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Speaker 1: So here we go. We can add just another few.

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Speaker 3: Square mile, not scare, a lot of people live there,

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Speaker 3: but you know, more square miles into the Greater Israel

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Speaker 3: project since October six, twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and put this next piece up on

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Speaker 2: about the amount of displaced people.

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Speaker 4: So this is the current ongoing.

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Speaker 2: Level of displaced people as a percent of total population.

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Speaker 2: You can see one million people have been displaced in Lebanon.

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Speaker 2: This is equivalent to twenty percent of their population. This

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Speaker 2: has happened in just three weeks time. And the person

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Speaker 2: who posted this says, Israel has pushed Lebanon into the

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Speaker 2: ranks of the world's worst displacement crises almost overnight. Syria

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Speaker 2: and Somalia took years to reach this level, and Israel

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Speaker 2: did this in three weeks. Let's put the next piece

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Speaker 2: up on the screen. You've got yet another bridge over

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Speaker 2: the Latani River that was destroyed in an airstrike.

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Speaker 4: This is just the latest one.

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Speaker 2: Put the next image up on the screen where you

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Speaker 2: can see a map of all of the bridges that

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Speaker 2: they have already destroyed. So you have one, two, three, four, five, six,

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Speaker 2: seven bridges over the Little Tani River that have been destroyed.

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Speaker 4: What is this.

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Speaker 2: This is an effort to separate southern Lebanon from the

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Speaker 2: rest of the country. So again, if you're looking to

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Speaker 2: annex this area and not just temporarily but permanently displace

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Speaker 2: the civilian population, what would you do. You would destroy

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Speaker 2: the civilian infrastructure, check they're doing that, you force people

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Speaker 2: to leave obviously under bombardment that's already been done. Then

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Speaker 2: you would destroy the ability of them to be able

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Speaker 2: to come back, so that you can totally control the space.

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Speaker 4: That's exactly what.

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Speaker 2: Is going on here, and you know you can see

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Speaker 2: it really clearly when you take a look at this map.

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Speaker 2: The next piece we wanted to get to is in

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Speaker 2: the West Bank. We're also going to have Jasper Nathaniel

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Speaker 2: incredible on the ground journalism and activism with regard to that.

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Speaker 2: So put D six up on the screen Obviously, these

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Speaker 2: problems in the West Bank are just sort of permanently ongoing,

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Speaker 2: but there has been a spike in violence recently, and

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Speaker 2: it appears to have been sparked by this incident. So

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Speaker 2: you had an Israeli settler who was riding around on

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Speaker 2: an atv or in a pickup truck, I can't tell which.

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Speaker 4: It looks like a pickup truck there trying.

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Speaker 2: To menace Palestinians, you know, roving through the land, trying

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Speaker 2: to intimidate them, and gets in an accident. Okay, keep

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Speaker 2: this up on the screen. So what this footage shows

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Speaker 2: is the very Palestinian residents who are being menaced by

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Speaker 2: this settler. When the settler was in trouble, went over

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Speaker 2: to try to help these settlers who were injured, and

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Speaker 2: one of the settlers ended up dying in this accident.

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Speaker 2: Then you had some of the settlers and ministers in

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Speaker 2: the Israeli government falsely labeled this as a murder, claim

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Speaker 2: that the Palestinians, you know, intentionally caused this crash and

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Speaker 2: attacked these settlers, and that is what helped you incite

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Speaker 2: this uptick in pograms against these Palestinian villages.

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Speaker 4: So think of how sick.

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Speaker 2: This is these Palestinians who were under direct threat from

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Speaker 2: these settlers when the settlers were in trouble, went over

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Speaker 2: and then they got blamed for it and it incited

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Speaker 2: these you know, this violent race attacks from the settlers.

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Speaker 2: So we can put the next piece up on the

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Speaker 2: screen to see, you know, Griffin put together a whole

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Speaker 2: compilation of some of the images that are coming out

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Speaker 2: of the region here and it's just absolutely horrifying. You

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Speaker 2: can see these these fires that are on This is okay.

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Speaker 2: This is settlers who are lined up on the road

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Speaker 2: outside of Palestinian village waiting to come in. These are

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Speaker 2: settlers rampaging through the streets as they you know, go

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Speaker 2: on their violent attack and attempt to steal land. Here

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Speaker 2: you can see Israeli settlers in West Bank rampage through

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Speaker 2: Palestinian villages. More images of this infiltration, you know, which

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Speaker 2: leads to attacks. You can see buildings being set on

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Speaker 2: fire here by settlers as well, you know, more damage, destruction, fires,

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Speaker 2: et cetera. And there's a whole it's it's what some

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Speaker 2: of the people, like I've seen you know, Richie Torres

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Speaker 2: are you know, big Zionists coming out recently to condemn

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Speaker 2: these attacks. And they love to paint the settlers Saga

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Speaker 2: as this sort of like fringe, rogue element, and that

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Speaker 2: could not be further from the truth. These settles are

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Speaker 2: performing the actions the government wants them to perform, and

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Speaker 2: They're protected by the government, they're protected by the IDF

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Speaker 2: when they commit these crimes, when they kill people, when

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Speaker 2: rape people, when they assault them, when they steal their land,

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Speaker 2: when they burn down their homes, are they held accountable

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Speaker 2: in a criminal court. No, not at all. If anyone

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Speaker 4: So if you see people who are out.

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Speaker 2: There, you know, doing a little perfunctorial of these settlers,

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Speaker 2: they have to, you know, Israel needs to crack down

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Speaker 4: They are covering for.

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Speaker 2: The fact that this is a systematic, intentional campaign that

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Speaker 2: is supported both overtly and covertly by the Israeli government,

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Speaker 2: and that is not just me saying that is a

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Speaker 2: well documented fact.

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Speaker 4: I saw. I don't know if you saw this JD.

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Speaker 4: Van So he said to Netty, you need to cut

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Speaker 4: this out. It's like bullshit.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you're not going to do anything about

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Speaker 2: it and they're going to be no penalty, this is utterly,

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Speaker 2: utterly meaningless. You know, in the same way that you

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Speaker 2: the finger wagging.

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Speaker 4: It was also utterly.

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Speaker 3: Point that they were apparently upset about. Actually proves the

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Speaker 3: point which disproves all of these people who are allegedly

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Speaker 3: upset about it. The government does not use administrative detention

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Speaker 3: against these Israeli settlers. They only use it against the

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Speaker 3: Palestinians where denial of rights. They basically cannap you right,

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Speaker 3: put you in prison and all that. They never use it,

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Speaker 3: or haven't used it very recently, and except in extremely

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Speaker 3: rare cases they might now because of all of this pressure.

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Speaker 3: I don't really know why everyone woke up one day

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Speaker 3: and it was like, Wow, this is so horrible.

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Speaker 1: I'm like this has been going on.

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Speaker 3: For years, it's accelerated, Like, what's the theory?

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Speaker 4: I saw a.

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Speaker 2: Theory from Chielle, who was like, the reason is because

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Speaker 2: since the IDF has to get involved over there to

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Speaker 2: like protect the settlers or whatever, it takes away from

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Speaker 2: their ability to invade Lebanon. So it's like, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's a forced distribution issue, not actually more lack oh.

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Speaker 3: Like October seventh, whatever, all those guys were in the

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Speaker 2: out and was like, no, no deal, because I want

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Speaker 2: you to not only fund DHS, but I also want

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Speaker 2: you to pass the Save America Acts.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, put E seven up.

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Speaker 2: On the screen. This is just the punch bowl report.

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Speaker 2: Trump to fun no deal. He made it very clear

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Speaker 2: you had actually let's go and play E three. Senator Kennedy,

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Speaker 2: who is a Republican talking about the dynamics here, and

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Speaker 2: I believe this was over on Fox News talking about Okay, well,

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Speaker 2: Trump is the one who said he doesn't want to deal.

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Speaker 4: Let's take a listen to that, Senator.

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Speaker 5: The cruise and I came up with a plan. We said, well,

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Speaker 5: it's a two step process. The Democrats have offered open

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Speaker 5: up everything but ice. Okay, let's accept their offer, and

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Speaker 5: then at the same time we would offer a bill

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Speaker 5: for reconciliation where we don't need any Democratic votes to

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Speaker 5: do whatever we wanted to do with ice, and that

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Speaker 5: way we're out of the shutdown and dhs' is back open.

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Speaker 5: We submitted that shund of crafone submitted that to President Trump,

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Speaker 5: as is his right, he said no, no deals with

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Speaker 5: the Democrats.

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Speaker 1: It would have worked.

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Speaker 5: We could have had TSA paid by the end of

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Speaker 5: the week, but the President said no deal.

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Speaker 2: It works, but the President said no deal. Sure enough,

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Speaker 2: but he ate up on the screen. This is the

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Speaker 2: President directly saying no deal. I think I don't think

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Speaker 2: we should make any deal with the crazy country destroying

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Speaker 2: radical left Democrats unless and until they vote with Republicans

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Speaker 2: to pass the Save America Act, far more important than

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Speaker 2: anything else we are doing in the sun. That includes

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Speaker 2: giving these same terrible people, the Dems, who are to

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Speaker 2: blame for this mess, a five billion dollar cut in

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Speaker 2: ICE funding, a deal which, even when disguised as something else,

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Speaker 2: is unacceptable to me and the American people unless it

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Speaker 2: includes their approval of voter ID with picture citizenship to vote,

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Speaker 2: no mail in voting with exceptions, all paper ballots, no

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Speaker 2: men in women's sports, which just randomly got thrown into

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Speaker 2: this thing too, and no transgender mutilization, which is not

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Speaker 2: a word of our precious children. Put it all together,

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Speaker 2: and also let Leader Thoon clearly identify those few Republicans

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Speaker 2: that are voting against America.

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Speaker 4: They will never be elected again.

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Speaker 2: In other words, lump everything together as one and vote

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Speaker 2: kill the filibuster, and stay in DC for Easter if necessary.

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Speaker 4: Make America great again.

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Speaker 2: I mean obviously, like he's clearly shouldering the blame for

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Speaker 2: this chaos and American airports. It's happening during a time

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Speaker 2: when many families are traveling for spring break, so it's

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Speaker 2: going to impact more than just you know, the business

487
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Speaker 2: driv it obviously would, but right now is the time

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Speaker 2: of year when you're going to have more just like

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Speaker 2: ordinary middle class families who are planning their Florida trip

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Speaker 2: or whatever for their kids' spring break. And you also

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Speaker 2: see the high priority he puts on this Save America Act,

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Speaker 2: which he thinks is going to give him more pat

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Speaker 2: it will will give him or power to mess with

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Speaker 2: the min terms where he knows he is politically screwed.

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Speaker 3: If you look at it right now, I mean, the

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Speaker 3: irony too, is about the filibuster you and I are like, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Do it, you know, kill it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, We're like great, okay, sure you can pass it now,

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Speaker 3: and then you know, in the future, other people who

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Speaker 3: are in power can pass whatever they want.

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Speaker 1: So let's go.

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Speaker 4: That's taken it, and I'm all I'm.

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Speaker 1: Ready, all right, kill it.

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Speaker 3: I'm happy to I'm happy to see it gone. You

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Speaker 3: want to pass David America for two years, we can

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Speaker 3: actually get some things that you know happen. I used

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Speaker 3: to be somewhat of a defender, like I understood, but

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Speaker 3: at this point it's just it's too much. And I've

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Speaker 3: even seen this restoration of what is it called the

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Speaker 3: talking filibuster. I think it's reasonable type of deal that's

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Speaker 3: too wonky. But the point is is it actually would

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Speaker 3: make it so that, yeah, the party in power be

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Speaker 3: able to do what they want, and if if you

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Speaker 3: don't like it, you can like whoever you want, or

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Speaker 3: to actually pass what they want.

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Speaker 1: Same thing what you were talking about.

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Speaker 3: If the Democrats take the Senate, then yeah, every piece

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Speaker 3: of Trump legislation literally ever, will be dead for the

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Speaker 3: entire president. There will be like a two year long

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Speaker 3: government shutdown basically if they if they wanted it, to

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Speaker 3: under the administration. That's the point. It would actually make

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Speaker 3: the government more responsive. But as of this morning, it

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Speaker 3: actually does look like there could be some deal. A

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Speaker 3: bunch of senators huddled with Trump last night. Potential breakthrough

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Speaker 3: last night where Trump met with Senator Katie Britt and

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Speaker 3: a few others. Chuck Schumer said, both sides are talking

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Speaker 3: in a serious way. Pressure's growing. It would probably come

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Speaker 3: down to what we just said, passing funding for everything

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Speaker 3: but Ice, and because ICE is already fully funded, it

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Speaker 3: would push it out to the future. Under the potential deal,

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Speaker 3: it would be restored under the HSI investigation team would

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Speaker 3: apparently be restored, requiring them to have what is it

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Speaker 3: called more investigatory actions and not reassigning the HSI agents

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Speaker 3: to immigration enforcement, on top of a few other deals.

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Speaker 3: So there might be some contours around it, but like

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Speaker 3: right now, from what we can tell, it actually does

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Speaker 3: look like this might be ending. And it's simply because

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Speaker 3: of all of the chaos with TSA and in the

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Speaker 3: airports something Trump. I don't know what they're thinking with

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Speaker 3: the ICE deployment, because look, you know, you guys know

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Speaker 3: my feelings about immigration. I've got my problems with Ice,

542
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Speaker 3: but at the very least, like the one thing politically

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Speaker 3: I would tell you not to do is to take

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Speaker 3: the most politicized law enforcement agency in the country and

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Speaker 3: then put it in front of all of the people

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Speaker 3: who are flying. You don't want to be seeing that,

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Speaker 3: you know, you don't want that in front of your

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Speaker 3: own eyes.

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Speaker 1: Whatever.

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Speaker 3: It's like, imagine if you could take the most one

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Speaker 3: of the more unpopular parts of your presidency and then

552
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 3: just remind everybody constantly that it exists and that they're like,

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Speaker 3: you don't want that, all right, you kind of want

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Speaker 3: it out in the shadows.

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Speaker 1: Do we have the images? Can we show everybody?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean, and I mean there's just you know,

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Speaker 4: it's an.

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Speaker 2: Idiotic idea on every level. And it's also doing nothing

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Speaker 2: to help the situation because they're not trained as TSA.

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Speaker 2: All the images that I've seen of him dying and

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Speaker 2: out are them just hanging around doing absolutely nothing. If

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Speaker 2: you guys seen that meme of the guy who's like pushing,

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Speaker 2: like trying to make it look like he's pushing himself waycar,

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Speaker 2: They're like.

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Speaker 4: Those are the you know, the ICE agents.

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Speaker 1: We gotta get some highway. I'm just gonna say it,

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Speaker 1: we gotta get some fucking weight requirements and view.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, seems has arrived at the airport. In any case,

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Speaker 2: they're basically just standing around doing nothing except making people

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Speaker 2: uncomfortable and angry, which you know they're already standing in

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Speaker 2: a long ass line feeling uncomfortable and angry, So there

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Speaker 2: you go. Steve Bannon says this should be a trial

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Speaker 2: run for sending them to the polling stations in November,

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Speaker 2: which I certainly don't think is completely.

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Speaker 4: Off the table.

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Speaker 2: But I did see one person say sager that this

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Speaker 2: made sense to them because they've often often wanted to

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Speaker 2: be shot in the face when they were waiting any

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Speaker 2: long airport line.

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Speaker 1: Okay, do we have time for me to rant a

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Speaker 1: little bit here?

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 3: Can I just say this, if you where are you

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Speaker 3: going that's so important to stand in line for four hours?

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna say it. I understand the spring break

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Speaker 3: and all that. Look, flight credit exists. You can cancel

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Speaker 3: I g if you bitch and moan at a company enough,

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Speaker 3: they will give you a refund, stay home or drive.

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Speaker 1: I was telling you that somebody lady to tweet this.

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Speaker 3: Morning my daughter waited in line for eight hours and

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Speaker 3: mister fly sleeping in an airport.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: And just to make sure, where are you going that point,

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Speaker 3: like outside of a family emergency, don't go, you know,

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Speaker 3: just don't go if you have to go for work.

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Speaker 3: I guess even then, like can you not talk to

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Speaker 3: your boss? You're like, yo, man, I'm not waiting in

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Speaker 3: line for six and a half hours. Yes, I know

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Speaker 3: that's from a point of privilege. I just I feel

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Speaker 3: like there's probably a.

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Speaker 1: Way that is.

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Speaker 2: But I'm okay, this is your one vacation. You have

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Speaker 2: booked your stuff. It's not refundable. You can't get a

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Speaker 2: back waiting for this.

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Speaker 1: Told me there's no such thing as non refuge. There's

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Speaker 1: no such thing.

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Speaker 4: There is, of course, the thing of non refue It.

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Speaker 1: Says it in the fight.

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Speaker 3: If you calling up all the credit card company challenge

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Speaker 3: of transactional.

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Speaker 4: Can Airbnb, they're not getting you your money back. It's happening. No,

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Speaker 4: you can't figure it.

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Speaker 2: So if people have dropped a bunch of money, they're like,

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Speaker 2: all right, well, I guess I'm going to suffer for

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Speaker 2: a day so that I can get this vacation that

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Speaker 2: I saved up all year. So I have some empathy.

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Speaker 2: I will say Tim Dillon did a very funny bit

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Speaker 2: on that he saw it. He was like, he was

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Speaker 2: talking about Americans traveling abroad while we're like destroying the world.

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Speaker 2: He's like, get your assat. No one wants to see

621
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Speaker 2: you right now, Like you're gonna go on your you know,

622
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 2: you're gonna watch us drop a bomb on a school,

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Speaker 2: and then you're gonna go and enjoy like a vineyard

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Speaker 2: in Italy. He's like, stay home, do not go anywhere

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Speaker 2: no one wants to see your face.

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Speaker 4: I mean vacation, go to Florida.

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Speaker 3: I feel because you know, I hate the Euros too,

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Speaker 3: and their snobbishness.

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Speaker 1: You know, you know.

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Speaker 3: Iran, It's like as if you put your bases aren't

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Speaker 3: being used right now, your governments aren't sucking on the

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Speaker 3: teet of the USA, and you don't need those tourist

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Speaker 3: dollars to float your shitty economy. So I'm not gonna

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Speaker 3: give too much to them. The only thing that I

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Speaker 3: will sympathize with the Euros is whenever they complain about

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Speaker 3: how Americans will go to Europe like in the middle

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Speaker 3: of the summer and they'll wear like gym clothes while

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Speaker 3: all the other Italians are wearing so and you know

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Speaker 3: what they're right, right, it's gross.

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Speaker 1: That would be the you don't want you. I'm you imagine.

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Speaker 3: Sitting in the Tuscan shop and you're wearing an Italian

642
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Speaker 3: linen cut fine suit, you're like seventy six years old,

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00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 3: and then some guy walks in with an underarm or

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Speaker 3: T shirt that says protect this house with it T

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Speaker 3: shirt and one of those sunglasses that like wraps around

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Speaker 3: in the back and then mispronounces the word like latte

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Speaker 3: and then fumbles with euro coins or something.

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Speaker 1: That would discuss me too. All right, So I'm with them.

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Speaker 1: I'm with them on that front.

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Speaker 4: When you're a tourist, no.

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Speaker 3: Company and they walk up what they walk plenty in

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Speaker 3: leather shoes, it's not hard, all right.

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Speaker 1: You could buy some decent shoes.

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Speaker 4: They're made, they're made for that.

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Speaker 3: We're not okay, all right, let's get to the next

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Speaker 3: next guest, Brendan Steinhauser standing by.

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Speaker 2: So we've covered here extensively the battle between Anthropic and

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Speaker 2: the Pentagon.

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Speaker 4: We've also talked about some of the.

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Speaker 2: Ways AI may be deployed within the Iran warren previously

661
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Speaker 2: and currently still in Gaza join us now to speak

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Speaker 2: about those concerns and a lot more with regard to

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Speaker 2: AI is Brendan Steinhauser. He's the CEO of the Alliance

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Speaker 2: for Secure AI. Great to meet you, Brendan.

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Speaker 1: Good to see you.

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Speaker 3: To see you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So let's go ahead and put this element up

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Speaker 2: on the screen. This is some reporting from Lever News

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Speaker 2: that effectively, what they're finding here is Trump is trying

670
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Speaker 2: to push the requirements they were trying to force Onanthropic.

671
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Speaker 2: They're trying to push this government wide at this point.

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Speaker 2: So the headline here is Trump contracting clause would override

673
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Speaker 2: AI safeguards. I'm just going to read a little bit

674
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Speaker 2: of this article so people get a sense of it.

675
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Speaker 2: The Trump administration's quietly advancing a sweeping new contracting clause

676
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Speaker 2: that would empower federal officials to force AI companies to

677
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Speaker 2: scrap safety protocols, eliminate privacy protections, and follow other Trump

678
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Speaker 2: directives as a condition of doing business with the government,

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Speaker 2: according to a draft text reviewed by the Lever, What

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Speaker 2: do you make of this and what did you think

681
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Speaker 2: was sort of the central fight or the importance of

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Speaker 2: the battle between Anthropic and the Pentagon.

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Speaker 6: I think The central fight was that Anthropic has certain

684
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Speaker 6: principles and redlines as a company that it doesn't want

685
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Speaker 6: to cross, and those include making sure there are safeguards

686
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Speaker 6: on having a human in the loop on autonomous weapons.

687
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Speaker 6: They don't want to see so called killer robots just

688
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Speaker 6: going around and striking targets without a human being in

689
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Speaker 6: and making those decisions. And also they don't want their

690
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Speaker 6: technology used for surveillance of the American people. They don't

691
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Speaker 6: want to see a police state created in the United

692
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Speaker 6: States of America, especially powered by andthropics technology, and so

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Speaker 6: that's where they drew their red lines. They've had those

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Speaker 6: principles for a while, but the Department of War decided

695
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Speaker 6: that they were going to basically bully and broadbeat the

696
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Speaker 6: company into getting what they want, and ultimately Andropic was

697
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Speaker 6: designated a company that was supposedly a threat to national

698
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Speaker 6: security of supply chain risk, which I think is pretty ridiculous.

699
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Speaker 6: And then open Aye came in and said, okay, well,

700
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Speaker 6: we'll adhere to those to those rules essentially, even though

701
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Speaker 6: we claim that we have the same red lines. They

702
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Speaker 6: decided to make the deal, but I think it's a

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Speaker 6: very concerning thing for all Americans who are concerned about

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Speaker 6: our civil liberties and concerned about big tech getting too

705
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Speaker 6: close to a government that has shown some, you know,

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Speaker 6: quite authoritarian tendencies.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, this is what I worry about right now.

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Speaker 3: We're in a war, this is a literal wartime. And

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Speaker 3: the very day that this was all happening, the next

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Speaker 3: day we launched the operation against Iran. So what's your

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Speaker 3: assessment now? Currently we've already seen all of these. I mean,

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Speaker 3: the very first day of the campaign, a girls school

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Speaker 3: is struck. We know that, we don't know yet whether

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Speaker 3: AI was used in that, but it does highlight some

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Speaker 3: of the problems with target packages. And this is with

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Speaker 3: alleged human oversight. So imagine if you're hallucinating, hallucinating answers,

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Speaker 3: you could hallucinate targets in a situation like this.

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Speaker 1: So does the fact that.

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Speaker 3: We're already in a war amplify your warnings and your

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Speaker 3: analysis here?

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, I think we rushed to integrate AI into the Pentagon,

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Speaker 6: into everything we're doing. Certainly, there were reports of Claude,

723
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Speaker 6: the tool that Anthropic has created, being used in the

724
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Speaker 6: raid on Maduu and Venezuela, and by all accounts that

725
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Speaker 6: went quite well. But to your point, when you have

726
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Speaker 6: a problem with control over AI, we basically have acknowledged

727
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Speaker 6: we can't control it. There are times where not only hallucinates,

728
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Speaker 6: but it kind of does what the opposite of what

729
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Speaker 6: it's owner is intending for it to do. That's a

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Speaker 6: real problem. And so yes, you can lead to you

731
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Speaker 6: can see things lead to targets, innocent civilians being targeted

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Speaker 6: and killed. You could see eventually a situation where AI

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Speaker 6: decides to kind of override it's human overseeres. We've already

734
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Speaker 6: seen that in other arenas. There's no reason to think

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Speaker 6: that it won't happen in the military. And so when

736
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Speaker 6: you talk about losing control of the most powerful weapons,

737
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Speaker 6: powered by the most powerful technology with artificial intelligence, we're

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Speaker 6: entering some very scary territory and I think there have

739
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Speaker 6: to be guardrails imposed by Congress.

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Speaker 2: Brendan, can you tell people a little bit of your

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Speaker 2: backgrounds just so that they understand the political perspective that

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Speaker 2: you bring to this. You were an organizer with the

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Speaker 2: Tea Party, you know, how did you come to this

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Speaker 2: particular fight.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I have a long background in Republican politics as

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Speaker 6: a strategist and the grassroots organizer. I also have a

747
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Speaker 6: master's degree in statecraft and international affairs from the Institute

748
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Speaker 6: of World Politics. I've always had an interest in international affairs,

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Speaker 6: and I kind of saw these worlds collide a little

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Speaker 6: bit with the rise of artificial intelligence. I've been reading

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Speaker 6: about the topic for some time. And then one of

752
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Speaker 6: my good friends actually was in the Trump administration, the

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Speaker 6: first admin at the Pentagon, and his job was at

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Speaker 6: the Joint Intelligence Artificial Intelligence Center there, and so he's

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Speaker 6: one of the people that recruited me into this space.

756
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Speaker 6: Is he's telling me to read this and read that,

757
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Speaker 6: and talk to this person and talk to that person.

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Speaker 6: And he has expressed a lot of these concerns publicly,

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Speaker 6: and it really convinced me that I needed to get

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Speaker 6: involved in this because it was going to be the

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Speaker 6: fight of our time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Brendan.

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Speaker 3: So within that context, we have watched now White House,

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Speaker 3: which effectively is joined at the hip with these AI companies.

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Speaker 3: I think for a variety of reasons. First and foremost, though,

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Speaker 3: really is valuation. I mean, after Liberation Day, the valuations

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Speaker 3: of these AI companies and their financial engineering has been

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Speaker 3: propping up American GDP. The data centers our stock markets.

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Speaker 3: But part of the issue that we see right now

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Speaker 3: is that the Iran war may be threatening all of that.

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Speaker 3: So let's put F one, for example, up here on

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Speaker 3: the screen. The FT is reporting that even without energy shocks,

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Speaker 3: there's a good chance that the closure of the straits

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Speaker 3: of overmoves will pop the AI bubble and lead to

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Speaker 3: a stock market crash. This is from energy costs, high

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Speaker 3: tech valuations, a lot of the Gulf Arabs who are

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Speaker 3: invested in these VC companies. So if we do see

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Speaker 3: some sort of burst, what impact do you think that

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Speaker 3: we'll have on this situation and the issues you care about.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think it's very demonstrably true that AI has

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Speaker 6: propped up the economy, that a lot of the numbers

782
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Speaker 6: that we see that are often kind of bragged about

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Speaker 6: might be somewhat artificial and driven by a lot of

784
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Speaker 6: circular financing between these various companies. And so if there

785
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Speaker 6: is an AI bubble and at burst, it could be

786
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Speaker 6: very bad for the American people, very bad for the

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Speaker 6: world economy in fact. And look, the other thing that's

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Speaker 6: happening right now is we're seeing job losses occurring in

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Speaker 6: hiring freeze is due to AI. In fact, we rolled

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Speaker 6: out a website called job loss dot Ai to track

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Speaker 6: those numbers, and we've already seen one hundred thousand jobs

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Speaker 6: lost due to AI this year and going back into

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Speaker 6: lilast year. And so it's a really concerning situation. And Yeah,

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Speaker 6: if we have this straight up for moves closed or

795
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Speaker 6: even contested and not fully open for some time, you

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Speaker 6: could see energy prices continue to rise. You could see

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Speaker 6: people paying more money at the pump. You could see

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Speaker 6: supply chain risks of course related to not only oil

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Speaker 6: and gas, but semiconductor chips because so much of the

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Speaker 6: manufacturing relies upon some of these minerals that are coming

801
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Speaker 6: out of the Strait as well. So it could be

802
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Speaker 6: a really dire situation economically. And my hope for the president,

803
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Speaker 6: look as a Republican, I mean, my hope for the

804
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Speaker 6: president is that he sees all of this and gets

805
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Speaker 6: ahead of it, and Republicans in Congress sort of wake

806
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Speaker 6: up to what's going on and get ahead of it.

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Speaker 6: I haven't seen a lot of signs on that so far,

808
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Speaker 6: but we're starting to hear a few a few things

809
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Speaker 6: here and there in Capitol Hill that do give us

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Speaker 6: some hope that they will figure this out and get

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Speaker 6: ahead of it.

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Speaker 2: Can you talk a little bit more about you said

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Speaker 2: the website you run job loss dot ai to track

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Speaker 2: the direct job loss from artificial intelligence, which I imagine

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Speaker 2: is a tricky challenge because I know a bunch of

816
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Speaker 2: these companies have said, well, basically, what we're going to

817
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Speaker 2: do is just not hire more people and allow people

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Speaker 2: to sort of naturally leave. That's something that Amazon has

819
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Speaker 2: talked about in some internal memos.

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Speaker 4: For example.

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Speaker 2: Look, based on what you can see, what are the

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Speaker 2: industries where displacement is occurring at the fastest rate.

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Speaker 6: Certainly a lot of the technology companies are utilizing AI themselves,

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Speaker 6: and especially in a lot of this white collar work,

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Speaker 6: whether it's administration or sort of operations. You're seeing, you know,

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Speaker 6: a lot of the white collar jobs actually being some

827
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Speaker 6: of the first to be automated. But the thing that

828
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Speaker 6: the industry that got hit already the hardest right now

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Speaker 6: is kind of the software engineering side of things as well,

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Speaker 6: because now something like ninety percent of coding is being

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Speaker 6: done by AI. So we're seeing that happening. We're seeing

832
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Speaker 6: white collar getting hit, and a lot of these companies

833
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Speaker 6: are saying openly you know, they think a lot of

834
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Speaker 6: the consulting world, accounting, you know, even eventually paralegals and lawyers,

835
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Speaker 6: especially young lawyers, are going to face hiring freezers. They're

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Speaker 6: going to face a very very difficult situation in terms

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Speaker 6: of getting a new getting a job. And so I

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Speaker 6: think a lot of entry level work is at risk,

839
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Speaker 6: and that's what we're seeing kind of now. But I

840
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Speaker 6: think we're going to see massive job losses this year,

841
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Speaker 6: and it's going to be due mostly to AI. Some

842
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Speaker 6: companies are hiding that fact, other people are actually saying

843
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Speaker 6: it openly, and it's very hard to track. But we

844
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Speaker 6: have a methodology that attempts to get as close to

845
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Speaker 6: the truth as we can on that.

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Speaker 2: The last thing I wanted to ask you about is

847
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Speaker 2: you've had, you know, a crazy amount of AI already

848
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Speaker 2: destabilizing reality. All you need to do is go on

849
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Speaker 2: Twitter and try to figure out what the hell is

850
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Speaker 2: real and what the hell is false, and try to

851
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Speaker 2: program a show by the way, and figure out you know,

852
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Speaker 2: sort from fiction.

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Speaker 4: It has never been more difficult.

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Speaker 2: And you have you know, the probably the two biggest

855
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Speaker 2: examples of this is you had all these We put

856
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Speaker 2: F two up on the screen, all these rumors that

857
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Speaker 2: bibnet Yahoo had been killed, and everybody was analyzing this

858
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Speaker 2: video in particular, but other ones as well. This was

859
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Speaker 2: a video he put out explicitly to say, guys, I'm alive. Here,

860
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Speaker 2: I am getting coffee. And you know, even with this,

861
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Speaker 2: there were all sorts of like anomalies where people looking

862
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Speaker 2: at this and.

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Speaker 4: Going no, no, no, this is AI.

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Speaker 2: You had Trump talking about how the new Ayahtola Muhtaba

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Speaker 2: that he's not sure he's alive. And you know, so

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Speaker 2: far we haven't seen any images or video of him.

867
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Speaker 2: There just been statements that are put out. So there's

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Speaker 2: a theory that you know, and some of the images

869
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Speaker 2: that have been put out of him have actually been

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Speaker 2: AI enhanced.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: The other theory is just that he is in hiding

873
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Speaker 2: because he would be assassinated likely if there was any

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Speaker 2: ability to tell his location. But in any case, I

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Speaker 2: just love for you to speak to that, you know,

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Speaker 2: social impact of the way that already reality has been

877
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Speaker 2: completely destabilized by this technology, and no one seems to

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Speaker 2: be grappling. Our lawmakers do not seem to be grappling

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Speaker 2: with what that means and how to get this under

880
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 2: control so that we don't you know, get into this

881
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 2: like totally postmodern world where literally you can invent your

882
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Speaker 2: own reality, believe whatever you want to believe.

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Speaker 6: It's a really big problem. Now it's going to get worse.

884
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Speaker 6: You're going to see it more and more in political

885
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 6: ads and the midterms this year. The you know, the

886
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 6: words disinformation and misinformation get thrown around a lot. They've

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Speaker 6: become very politicized, but they do have a real meaning.

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00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 6: And misinformation, you know, just things that are untrue that

889
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,959
Speaker 6: people are spreading, sometimes not by their own volition, they're

890
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Speaker 6: just it's information that's out there that someone heard or

891
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 6: made up or you know, maybe they made a funny video.

892
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 6: They weren't intending to mislead anyone, but that's happening.

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Speaker 1: And then there's.

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Speaker 6: Disinformation coming from governments, coming from political actors, coming from

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Speaker 6: political parties and figures, and that's you know, information that's

896
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 6: knowingly false, meant to mislead people. So lying about someone

897
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 6: being dead, for example, and then creating a video or

898
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 6: creating content to share to get people to spread that information,

899
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Speaker 6: that's disinformation. Those are both big problems. They're going to

900
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 6: get worse, and I think the best advice that I

901
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 6: have to people is to really be skeptical and really

902
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 6: check your sources and figure out who are the journalists

903
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 6: and who are the thought leaders that you trust to

904
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Speaker 6: tell you the truth. That's going to become more important

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Speaker 6: than ever. You know people that you know that have

906
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,240
Speaker 6: charactered integrity, that will at least give you their best

907
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Speaker 6: analysis and their best information that they have. That's what

908
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 6: you're going to have to rely on, because looking at

909
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 6: random accounts on the Internet is going to get worse

910
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Speaker 6: and worse in terms of trying to get good and

911
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Speaker 6: accurate information. And so AI is just going to make

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Speaker 6: this so much more difficult. And state actors and non

913
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Speaker 6: state actors are participating it, so we have a lot to.

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Speaker 1: Be worried about.

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Speaker 3: Brennan, thank you so much for joining us. Man, appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you guys so much for watching. We

917
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Speaker 3: appreciate it. Great Wednesday show for everybody. Tomorrow, I think

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Speaker 3: Ryan's going to detail his Cuban travels that like to

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Speaker 3: say about that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, all right, they will see you all then,