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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind. Listener mail.

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Speaker 2: This is Robert Lamb.

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Speaker 3: And this is Joe McCormick. And it's Monday, the day

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Speaker 3: of each week that we read back some messages from

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Speaker 3: the Stuff to Blow your Mind mail bag mail box.

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Speaker 3: I realized I say both. If you have never gotten

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Speaker 3: in touch with us before and you would like to,

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Speaker 3: why not give it a try. You can email us

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Speaker 3: Any kind of correspondence is fair game. You can email

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Speaker 3: us feedback on recent episodes. If you have something interesting

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Speaker 3: you'd like to add to something we talked about. If

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Speaker 3: Let's see Rob, Do you mind if I kick things

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Speaker 3: off here with this message from Brett about the horse hook.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it.

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Speaker 3: Brett says, Hello, gentlemen, It's been a minute since I've

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Speaker 3: written in, but I wanted to make a quick comment

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Speaker 3: on horse hooves. I've always wondered the same thing you

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Speaker 3: both described, which is why the horse has single wide hoofs,

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Speaker 3: which seem to be different from other large hoofs of animals.

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Speaker 3: I wondered if this allows them to be steady in

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Speaker 3: damp soil and would allow them to still have power

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Speaker 3: to move themselves out of trouble. I think of it

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Speaker 3: similarly to the Eiffel Tower. The wide hooves can spread

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Speaker 3: out the weight of the animal as its powerful legs

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Speaker 3: can propel them quickly if the horse so desires, whether

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Speaker 3: on dry or wet ground. Just to thought, hope your

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Speaker 3: summer is off to a wonderful start, Brett. Well, Brett,

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Speaker 3: that's an interesting idea. But actually, the more I thought

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Speaker 3: about it, I was kind of thinking in the opposite direction,

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Speaker 3: because this reminded me of some stuff I covered think

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Speaker 3: a while back in a listener mail episode that I

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Speaker 3: did solo, where a listener got in touch about seeing

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Speaker 3: his dogs running on top of snow, and I ended

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Speaker 3: up talking about some stuff I was reading about wolf

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Speaker 3: pause being adapted for running on snow, specifically because they

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Speaker 3: can spread the toes out wide and distribute the body

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Speaker 3: weight across a larger surface area with that kind of

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Speaker 3: you know, big wide webbed foot, which in some cases

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Speaker 3: allows them to run more quickly in snowy conditions, because

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Speaker 3: they can run up on top of the frozen crust

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Speaker 3: at the top of the snow layer, whereas the prey

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Speaker 3: animal like a the hoofed point of a deer leg

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Speaker 3: will punch through the crust and then the deer will

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Speaker 3: get bogged down wading through the snow. So I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I would tend to think that having a larger, wider

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Speaker 3: foot with multiple toes would give you more stability on

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Speaker 3: wet or soft or unstable ground, whereas having a smaller

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Speaker 3: footprint would allow you to I don't know. I guess

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Speaker 2: Interesting by the way, Joe, on the question of box

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Speaker 2: or bag, I have looked inside carney our mail bot,

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Speaker 2: and it does appear to be more of a horseshoe

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Speaker 2: shaped cylinder. I guess it has to curve around some

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Speaker 2: important wiring and so forth.

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Speaker 3: Yes, okay, I understand all right.

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Speaker 2: This next bit of listener mail comes to us from Taylor,

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Speaker 2: and this concerns of the beaver. This is another animal

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Speaker 2: based series that we did. Taylor says, Hello, Robin, Joe,

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Speaker 2: I loved your recent two part a on beaver's wonderful

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Speaker 2: work as always. For the past few years, I have

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Speaker 2: worked with the Forest Service to manage a visitor center

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Speaker 2: at Silver Lake in Utah Wastoche Mountains. Silver Lake is

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Speaker 2: a beaver engineered body of water, so I've had the

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Speaker 2: pleasure to introduce countless tourists to our resident rodents of

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Speaker 2: my experience. Few people realize that beavers live in their

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Speaker 2: commensal species cohabit with beavers in their lodges. Muskrats, another

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Speaker 2: This relationship may even represent a form of mutualism, as

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Speaker 2: some authors have argued that the muskrat may help beavers

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Speaker 2: observed our local beavers mounting boulder stumps and the snowpack

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Speaker 2: addition to the trees they fell themselves, beavers opportunistically feed

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Speaker 2: that beavers often abandoned trees they have been gnawing when

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Speaker 2: impossible to ascribe real intention to the beavers, but it

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Speaker 2: is possible the beavers have developed the behavior of letting

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Speaker 2: trees to save some effort and avoid being crushed. I've

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Speaker 2: had difficulty finding any writing about this, and if it

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Speaker 2: it would be difficult to distinguish from their usual nocturnal labors. Nevertheless,

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Speaker 2: the more time one spends around these weird and noble rodents,

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Speaker 2: the easier it is to imagine a thoughtful intellect behind

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Speaker 2: those big orange incisors. All the best, Taylor, Oh wow,

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Speaker 2: great email. Thank you for sending Taylor. That is an

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Speaker 2: interesting observation, and multiple things we were reading really highlighted

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Speaker 2: how much beavers seem to want to get off of

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Speaker 2: So I don't know, I could imagine, yeah, maybe an

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Speaker 2: so I absolutely agree wonderful insight and observation added, Thanks Taylor.

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Speaker 3: All right now. We also got a bunch of messages

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Speaker 3: in response to Weird House Cinema. Several answers came in

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Speaker 3: after a listener named Michelle gave us a query last week.

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Speaker 3: Michelle was trying to find the name of a movie

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Speaker 3: she remembered about a woman who breaks up with her

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Speaker 3: human boyfriend in favor of a robot suitor who was

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Speaker 3: more sensitive and caring. We got several different answers to this.

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Speaker 3: One came from Sheldan. Sheldine says, Hi, guys, might the

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Speaker 3: movie that Michelle is recalling be making? Mister Wright, I

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Speaker 3: vaguely remember watching it in the eighties and I thought

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Speaker 3: it starred Ali Sheety, but I am wrong. It stars

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Speaker 3: John Malkovich as a scientist who makes a robot version

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Speaker 3: who falls in love with the robot. Thanks Sheldane, and

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Speaker 3: also wanted to note there was another listener named David

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Speaker 3: who suggested the same movie that this is the movie

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Speaker 3: Michelle might be thinking of.

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Speaker 2: Hmmm, I have never seen it, but it looks it

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Speaker 2: looks interesting. Robot John Malkovich as a lever.

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Speaker 3: Okay, One thing I recall Michelle saying, well, I recall

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Speaker 3: which is not how I would usually imagine John Malkovich.

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Speaker 2: True. True, you know, unless this is a you know,

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Speaker 2: an altered memory, this would seem to be going against

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Speaker 2: type for John Malcovich. Though, I have to say, looking

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Speaker 2: He has like a full head of like blonde hair

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Speaker 2: in it, and it is clearly playing some sort of

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Speaker 3: Who would leave John Malkovich's character from Burn after reading

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Speaker 3: for a Robot? How could you imagine that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. Nineteen eighty seven's John Malkovich is

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Speaker 2: a slightly different flavor.

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Speaker 3: Okay, But we also got a different suggestion of a

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Speaker 3: movie from Chris. Chris says Joe and Robert Listener. Michelle

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Speaker 3: wrote to you about a science fiction film from the

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Speaker 3: nineteen fifties, in which a woman rejected her human boyfriend

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Speaker 3: in favor of a robot. Although she said it was

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Speaker 3: in black and white, that plot element struck a chord

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Speaker 3: as being in color. A bit of appropriate Internet searching

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Speaker 3: resulted in Creation of the Humanoids from nineteen sixty two,

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Speaker 3: which I've not seen in more decades than I care

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Speaker 3: watch it at a local theater. This might be the

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Speaker 3: film she's remembering, even if not, might be worth an

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Speaker 3: investigation for Weird House Cinema.

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Speaker 2: Chris, Yeah, nineteen sixty two is the Creation of the Humanoids.

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen it, but I knew I had seen

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Speaker 2: the title somewhere, and I quickly realized this is because

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Speaker 2: this features a cast that includes Dudley man Love of

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Speaker 3: It is Dudley Man Love Arrows, the alien bad guy.

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Speaker 2: I think he's the one. Your stupid mind, stupid, stupid, that.

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Speaker 3: One that's enough out of you.

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Speaker 2: The Creation of the Humanoids looks interesting, though it is

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Speaker 2: apparently in color and not black and white, So I

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Speaker 2: don't know that. Perhaps the mystery remains. But I looked

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Speaker 2: into this in a little bit. I think a lot

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Speaker 2: of people did not like it. I think Michael Weldon

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Speaker 2: said it was fun, sounds perfect, Okay.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: We also heard from someone's sort of giving my own

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Speaker 2: take on this whole idea about how sometimes we have

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Speaker 2: partial bits of movies stuck in our head from when

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Speaker 2: and says, Hi, Rob, Joe, and JJ Happy Monday. During

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Speaker 2: your last listener mail, Rob mentioned a movie about two

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Speaker 2: kids looking for their parents. If it was animated. I'm

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Speaker 2: pretty sure he's thinking of Grave of the Fireflies. It

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Speaker 2: won't be a letdown in terms of quality, but it

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Speaker 2: is an incredibly sad and harrowing film. Yeah, it's not

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Speaker 2: a Grave of the Fireflies, which I haven't seen, but

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Speaker 2: the thing I'm half remembering is not animated. Grave of

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Speaker 2: the Fireflies is one that I've It's been on my

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Speaker 2: I know it's an important film, but I know it

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Speaker 2: is sad and harrowing, so I keep putting it off.

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Speaker 2: This is, of course, a nineteen eighty eight Japanese film

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Speaker 2: that came out from Studio Ghibli if memory serves, and

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Speaker 2: it yeah, deals with like the tragedies of war anyway,

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Speaker 2: Lawrence continues, I watched seconds based on your spoiler warnings

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Speaker 2: for the movie, and I'm glad I did. I liked

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Speaker 2: your conversation about Eastern religious interpretations of the film. If

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Speaker 2: I can suggest a good double feature, nineteen seventy four's

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Speaker 2: The Parallax View with Warren Batty seems fitting. It has

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Speaker 2: a similarly distinct visual style, also gained a mixed reception

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Speaker 2: upon release due to its ending and his age into

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Speaker 2: a better reception. I'd be really curious to hear your

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Speaker 2: thoughts on it. Thanks for all you do, Lawrence.

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