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Speaker 1: another Fire Drill podcast. Michael Bamberger, Matt Ginella, RNA Clubhouse.

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Speaker 1: connecting all the dots of my life and professional life

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Speaker 1: through an event like this here one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: at thee because where do we go from here? That

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Speaker 1: that's actually the question that I think as it relates

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Speaker 1: to golf in general, Like, certainly for me, like this

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Speaker 1: is such a huge moment, Like where do we go

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Speaker 1: in the game of golf? Right after this is overcome Tuesday?

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Speaker 1: There's gonna be more. Now, there's gonna be great. And

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Speaker 1: so it almost feels like you're at the end of

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Speaker 1: the of the ice cream cone and it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: You're gonna do you want to ever take that last bite?

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Speaker 1: Because tomorrow is going to be that last bite and

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Speaker 1: then we're gonna have to see what's next to well,

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Speaker 1: I hope man. At some point the readers of the

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Speaker 1: Firepit Collective dot com will get to read a story

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Speaker 1: by you about your experiences with Tiger at a Sports

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Speaker 1: Illustrated photo shoot in nineteen ninety eight involving not just Tiger,

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Speaker 1: Tiger and Tiger or Tiger and other tigers. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: coming for sure. I just if you're listening to this podcast,

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Speaker 1: you've probably been following our adventures all week long. Let

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Speaker 1: me thank you. Check out Matt story. It's going to

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Speaker 1: post Sunday morning, and it is a lovely kind of

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Speaker 1: first person journey through the golf world and all his

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Speaker 1: adventures and would I would really recommend that highly because we, uh,

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Speaker 1: we've been a lot of places collectively, and it's it's

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Speaker 1: fun to share them. You don't want to hog the experiences,

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Speaker 1: We want to share them. That that's we're we're the

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Speaker 1: eyes and ears of the fans, like we're here to

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Speaker 1: take them places they can't get to otherwise. So we

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Speaker 1: take that responsibility seriously. There's no other sport that could

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Speaker 1: have the co mingling that this sport has none. There's

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Speaker 1: no other place they could have as much co mingling

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Speaker 1: as this. So just the fact that you know that

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Speaker 1: Matt was with Joe Lacava last night and then we're

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Speaker 1: telling old Tiger stories at at dinner to night. Well

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Speaker 1: and while we're out here taking this podcast on this balcony,

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Speaker 1: Paul Azinger just wandered out just to take in the view,

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Speaker 1: you know, yeah, like David Fantasy, like it's just golf

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Speaker 1: people come out your years and which leads us to

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Speaker 1: the Rusick's Hotel, which is has been a big sponsor

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Speaker 1: for all things fire Pit Collective this week, So thank

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Speaker 1: you to the Rusick's Hotel for the access to this

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Speaker 1: these these porches, these decks that overlook the eighteenth Fairway.

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Speaker 1: They've put a lot a ton of money into this

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Speaker 1: place and who everybody's delight. It has changed the accommodation

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Speaker 1: world in Saint Andrews, so highly recommend. We also have

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Speaker 1: to thank Link Soul obviously the clothing company that we

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Speaker 1: all love, and John Ashworth is a part of this

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Speaker 1: story that posts tomorrow. So thanks to John Ashworth and

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Speaker 1: Links Soul. Seed Golf, the Irish based golf ball company,

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Speaker 1: is a new sponsor to us and looking forward to

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Speaker 1: getting to know them more. Part points our boys Brandy

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Speaker 1: Niebert and Kevin Quinley who have developed that new app

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Speaker 1: on how to Wait, how to Score the Game and

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Speaker 1: again I'm using it for golf with my kids, so

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Speaker 1: high highly recommend. I think this is a lot about

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Speaker 1: the mcloys that they're choosing to stay at this hotel.

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Speaker 1: The word I heard is I think they are part

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Speaker 1: of the investment team into this hotel, which is and

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Speaker 1: I saw Keith Mitchell today he missed the cut by one.

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Speaker 1: He's up upstairs with his brother and his sister in

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Speaker 1: law and his new wife. As of January, they were

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Speaker 1: having a great time up there overlooking the golf, watching

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Speaker 1: the golf as fans. It was. It was really fun

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Speaker 1: um and the and he said he loves everything about

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Speaker 1: this place. The only thing that is a knock is

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Speaker 1: also part of the reason why it's so much fun

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Speaker 1: is pace of play. That the drive of part fours

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Speaker 1: and the criss crossing of the routing as back in

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Speaker 1: the back end ends up resulting in six hour rounds.

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Speaker 1: And he said that was the only the only little

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Speaker 1: bruise on this whole this whole event. But on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: on Sunday, we won't have that at all. Uh just

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Speaker 1: to speak connections for one more minute. So we had

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Speaker 1: David Farerty just us inning here. We got friends from

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Speaker 1: Ireland right here as well. Shane and Noel Fleming are

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Speaker 1: in the house and they saw Rory's chip in so

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Speaker 1: that was nice. And so David Farerty was playing golf

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Speaker 1: with Michael Benn and m Rory mclroy's teacher before Rory

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Speaker 1: was even born. Uh So like you know, speak of

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Speaker 1: connections that you're writing about in your abust tomorrow. Golf

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Speaker 1: is so rich with them. It's it's sexual reporters dream.

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Speaker 1: The whole game is reporters dream, and this week has

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Speaker 1: been a reporter's dream as well. Yeah, well that's well said.

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Speaker 1: And tomorrow it's finale. I feel like we've been in

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Speaker 1: San Enters for a month. That's not a complaint. It's

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Speaker 1: been It's been a great time. We've all had way

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Speaker 1: too much fun. But you know, it's it's finally Here

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Speaker 1: is what the build up has been all about. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna crown that champion golfer over the year. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: it's gonna it's gonna be memorable no matter what. It

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Speaker 1: could be epic if it's rory. And I know I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: I know you guys are excited. So we'll have one

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Speaker 1: more of these pots tomorrow night and we'll um, we'll

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Speaker 1: have a champion and we'll put a bow on the week.

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Speaker 1: But any final thoughts where we go, are we going

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Speaker 1: to have no Matt It might just mean yeah, Michael,

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Speaker 1: we'll handle a logistics mark. You just show up and

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Speaker 1: because one thing, Ship and I are good at Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Butler cabinet. I think you get in the Rusticks Hotel. Well,

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Speaker 1: oftentimes a parking lot for the press as far away.

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Speaker 1: And they have shuttle trust and Michael one year about

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Speaker 1: he would not write shuttlebus the whole year, no matter what,

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Speaker 1: and he pulled it off. So yeah, this is one

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Speaker 1: of the joys of the job is sneaking around, right,

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Speaker 1: we know that to be true. No. Five, I watched

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Speaker 1: and all required was a blue blazer and a striped tie.

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Speaker 1: Well as as we're looking out at this a dark

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Speaker 1: and fair way. Of course, I go back to twenty

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Speaker 1: eighteen when the open was at Carnous Steve, but we

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Speaker 1: stayed in Saint Andrews because why not. It's so much fun.

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Speaker 1: And me and Sean Zac went out there and with

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Speaker 1: a couple of clubs and played the eighteenth hole in

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Speaker 1: the dark under the moon. And I don't like to brag,

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Speaker 1: but I didn't make an incredible par and it was

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Speaker 1: it was. It was a great time. So yeah, there's well,

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Speaker 1: we'll see where we can get. Tomorrow night we may

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Speaker 1: be delivering pizza to Rory's room knock, knock, Oh, mister mackelroy,

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Speaker 1: we have your pizza that you ordered. Actually that light

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Speaker 1: bulb moment right there. All right, let's turn the readers.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, no, no, that's all. I got Sean mckiel's

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Speaker 1: room service meal that way Sunday night when he won

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Speaker 1: at Rochester. So weird things do happen in other places,

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Speaker 1: but more weird things happen here than anywhere else. Well,

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Speaker 1: one year at the Mercedes Championship, I was staying next

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Speaker 1: to Yester Parnovic and the Ritz Carlton. I just randomly,

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Speaker 1: and the players are so spoiled. Every night they get

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Speaker 1: a gift, and one time they just left it outside

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Speaker 1: of Yespur's door, and this amazing display of chocolates and

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Speaker 1: sweets and cookies. I stole it and I enjoyed it

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Speaker 1: all week long. And yeah, like I eat like twigs

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Speaker 1: and berries. He wasn't gonna eat it. But anyway, I'm

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Speaker 1: feeling if Rory wins, you guys are gonna have to

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Speaker 1: sneak in anywhere. He will be upstairs at the Russishole Hotel,

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Speaker 1: hanging off the edge, partying and drinking out of declared

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Speaker 1: jug You guys might even drink out of the jug. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll get COVID for Rory's Clare jug for sure. Um,

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Speaker 1: all right, let's let the listeners go. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: sticking with us. As always, there's a fun time. We'll

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Speaker 1: do this Sunday night, Michael. I'll be writing on Deadline tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: which is always a thrill Sunday night. Game stories and

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Speaker 1: columns are always a blast for us to do. It's

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Speaker 1: the ultimate sort of adrenaline keeps us you at least, Michael.

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Speaker 1: And that's it from the eighteenth hole at the Old Course.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. Put another log on the fire. Nobody hears.

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Speaker 1: Get the time