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Speaker 2: You know what, So what if I knew Canton and

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Speaker 3: It's ludicrous. Heidi Flies.

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Speaker 4: We are looking to win this case.

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Speaker 5: Anthony Brooklyer, Heidie Flice's defense attorney.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes she is sweet and other times she's a vicious

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Speaker 6: little vixen. I'm her hero, you know, but she had

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Speaker 6: to rob me. If you will notice, all the customers

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Speaker 6: Alex Fleming, Madam.

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Speaker 3: It's beyond Hollywood. It's studio and police and everything.

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Speaker 7: Previously on Heidi World, Heidi Flie's high end escort service

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Speaker 7: has been busted in a sting operation. Now she is

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Speaker 7: Welcome to Heidi World, Chapter seven, The Trial of the

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Speaker 7: Century nineteen ninety four to nineteen ninety five. Welcome back

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Speaker 7: to Heidi World. I'm your host, Mollie Lambert. It is

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Speaker 7: nineteen ninety four. Heidiflices is under fire from every direction,

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Speaker 7: being pursued by law enforcement, the IRS, and the mass

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Speaker 7: Tower Grove estate for a cool one point eight million.

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Speaker 7: She's running out of money and places to hide, but

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Speaker 7: between stressing out about her forthcoming court case for pandering,

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Speaker 7: a liquor store in director Gregor Rocki's cult classic cool

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Speaker 7: Kid La movie The Doom Generation. In a monkey's paw situation.

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Speaker 7: Everyone in Los Angeles wants Heidi Flice, but not in

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Speaker 7: the way she wanted them to. So guess where she goes.

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Speaker 7: That's right to a reporter to tell her side of

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Speaker 7: the story. This time it's Lynn Hirschberg for Vanity Fair

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Speaker 7: for a story titled Heidi Does Hollywood Will. Trusting a

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Speaker 7: journalist to tell her story responsibly be a mistake. Let's

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Speaker 3: I'm not Madonna.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to be famous.

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Speaker 7: Earlier in the day, the TV tabloid news show Hard

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Speaker 7: Copy showed up to Heidie's front door and gave her

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Speaker 7: back a nineteen ninety two planner that they had bought

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Speaker 7: from someone in Heidi's circle. Heidi has agreed to do

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Speaker 7: an interview with hard Copy in exchange for the return

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Speaker 7: the planner to her friend Lahua Reed, a beach blonde

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Speaker 7: Richie Sambora from bon Jovi. Reid gave Heidi money for

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Speaker 7: famous Norma Kmali rap dress that she made her first

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Speaker 7: Heidi with a wardrobe for her trial. Lahua Reid claims

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Speaker 7: she gave the planner back to Heidi weeks ago, but

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Speaker 7: Heidi is certain that Lahua is the one who sold

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Speaker 3: When you picture California, you picture Lua. She was a

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Speaker 7: Lynn Hirschberg gets a look at the planner and says

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Speaker 7: and whether she won or lost. She has lists of

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Speaker 3: See I was smart? Anything important? I in doubt?

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Speaker 7: Lynn Hirschberg says. Heidi looks painfully thin, almost skeletal, but

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Speaker 7: Heidi opens up to Lynn Hirschberg about what life is

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Speaker 2: A lot of people are afraid of me, and they

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Speaker 2: You look at any picture of a politician with some

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Speaker 7: Heidi has invited Lynn Hirschberg over to watch CNN tape

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Speaker 7: a segment about Heidie's new line of cotton sleepwear, which

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Speaker 7: she has dubbed Heidiewear. Models are milling around the room,

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Speaker 7: gets his hair styled for photos. Heidie's facialist. A woman

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Speaker 7: named Nance models a pink terry cloth bathrobe from Heidiewear.

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Speaker 7: There's a man in his fifties that Heidi calls Fig,

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Speaker 7: Fig is Paul Fagan, an entertainment lawyer and former multi

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Speaker 7: entertaining at Heidi's house with card tricks and other close

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Speaker 7: the Heidiwear flannel boxers. Heidi shows him where the condom

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Speaker 3: You put that sure? What do you think my sleep wear?

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Speaker 7: Heidi is still entertaining at the mansion for as long

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Speaker 2: You feel like you own the town from here.

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Speaker 7: Facing a possible scent so of eleven years in jail,

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Speaker 7: Heidi is pulling out all the stops while she's still free.

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Speaker 7: She already botched one Heidi Wear photo shoot for a

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Speaker 3: I had to take a valume. I don't want that

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Speaker 7: Heidi's best friend, Victoria Sellers, appears in a black catsuit

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Speaker 7: with big black boots, clutching her two pit bull puppies.

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Speaker 7: She just went to.

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Speaker 3: What's going on? Oh my god, I forgot all about this.

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Speaker 8: Victoria Sellers Heidi's best friend.

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Speaker 3: Victoria is a nymphomaniac.

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Speaker 2: We had contests on how many guys we could go

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Speaker 2: we got two guys on the phone.

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Speaker 3: Do you want the blonde or the brunette. We were

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Speaker 3: total perverts. We'd fuck the same guy in the same bed.

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Speaker 2: Victoria liked rough sex and I didn't, so I'd leave

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Speaker 2: Sometimes with plenty of mornings, we'd wake up and say,

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Speaker 8: It was like that, I like sex, but I'm not crazy.

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Speaker 8: A little over a year ago, I used to like

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Speaker 7: Victoria is living with Heidi after a boyfriend became abusive.

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Speaker 7: one of the models at the house. Heidi's brother Jesse,

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Speaker 7: watches it go down and walks outside to tell his sister.

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Speaker 7: While the CNN cameras are filming one of her friends

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Speaker 7: prancing on the lawn in the boxer shorts with the

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Speaker 9: I think some of Victoria's friends brought her drugs. Don't

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Speaker 7: Heidi is pissed she can't be seen anywhere near drugs

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Speaker 2: Someone with a joint on them can get me in trouble.

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Speaker 2: Now I just have a prescription for valuume and that's it.

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Speaker 3: Listen to me.

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Speaker 2: I don't even sound like myself. I can't have any

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Speaker 3: Thanks We'll never be the same again.

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Speaker 7: Heidi is flustered by the various misconceptions and exaggerations about

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Speaker 3: Not a nun.

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Speaker 2: But I've never smoked a cigarette, and I've only smoked

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Speaker 7: The next time, Lynn Hirschberg goes to Heidi's house to

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Speaker 7: a massive diamond ring. She says the richest man in

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Speaker 7: all her recent mentions in the press.

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Speaker 2: My sister Shana started collecting this after the troubles began.

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Speaker 3: I call it the troubles.

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Speaker 7: Hirshburg details the infighting between madams and girls that plagues Heidi,

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Speaker 7: her troubled but loving relationship with Madame Alex, the deep

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Speaker 7: betrayals she feels by the girls who were busted at

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Speaker 7: the Beverly Hilton and turned on her. Hirshburg compares it

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Speaker 6: A madam's nightmare is to have girls testify against her.

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Speaker 6: He drives the steak in your heart. Heidi has four

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Speaker 10: Did you take a cut from the girls after the

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Speaker 10: cops busted them? Did you take your fucking forty percent cut?

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Speaker 10: I bet you fucking did. It's just the beginning. You know,

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Speaker 10: the PTA to the irs are going to knock on

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Speaker 3: I can't get mad at them. I just can't.

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Speaker 2: The police tried to get us to turn on each other,

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Speaker 2: but I won't turn on them.

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Speaker 3: Not those girls.

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Speaker 2: I just know them, I know them.

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Speaker 7: Heidi drives Lynn Hirschberg down the hill from her house

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Speaker 7: the wiretap tapes that informant Dan Hanks has of some

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Speaker 7: tapes have gone out to outlets like Vanity Fair, where

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Speaker 7: people have heard them, but not published any of them.

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Speaker 7: Yet there are over sixty hours of recorded conversations between

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Speaker 7: airing them as part of a special. Heidi is heading

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Speaker 7: to see her lawyer, Anthony Brookler, who is making a

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Speaker 7: Heidi means Robert Evans, who once again we can talk

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Speaker 3: It would kill Evans got out. He says, being my

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Speaker 7: When Heidi World returns, we'll tell you what happened with

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Speaker 7: bought the Hanks tapes and even started running promotions for them,

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Speaker 7: But her lawyer, Anthony brook Ler, jumped in and got

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Speaker 7: them to agree to an interview with Heidi instead, a

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Speaker 2: The only reason Charlie Sheen's name came out is that

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Speaker 3: He probably spent closer to a three hundred or four

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Speaker 7: Heidi talks openly about a few of her clients, and

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Speaker 7: doesn't know that Charlie Sheen sometimes enjoys the company of

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Speaker 2: Charlie was a gentleman. He'd pay for all his friends.

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Speaker 2: They want to be studs. They don't want to say

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Speaker 2: they pay for sex. Charlie gave a party for this

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Speaker 3: And I still lost the money.

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Speaker 7: The problem with Charlie Sheen is that the working girls

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Speaker 7: by constantly proposing marriage to them. Who's well documented. Kink

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Speaker 2: I've really mixed feelings about Charlie. His secretary called when

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Speaker 2: everything happened. I thought, why didn't a secretary call when

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Speaker 7: She also has a sex tape of Charlie and two

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Speaker 2: He's sitting there high and two of the girls start

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Speaker 3: You can imagine the rest.

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Speaker 7: Heidi tells Lynn Hirschberg about some other famous clients that

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Speaker 2: Shannon Doherty called up once to ask for two girls

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Speaker 2: for her fiance's bachelor party. She said, I want them

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Speaker 2: to be pretty, but not too pretty. She was giving

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Speaker 3: And I hung up on her.

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Speaker 7: You will remember, of course, that Shannon also got in

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Speaker 7: Shannon Doherty responded that Heidie's story was distorted, but copped

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Speaker 7: to the fact that she did call Heidi to make

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Speaker 7: an inquiry. Hollywood celebrities and industry big mockers make up

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Speaker 7: only a fraction of Heidie's client tell The real money

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Speaker 7: is still overseas.

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Speaker 2: A man called me once and said, the king is

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Speaker 3: I said, the Saudi is paying twenty five hundred dollars apiece.

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Speaker 3: How much are you paying? He said, it's not a

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Speaker 3: paying kind of thing. He's a king. I said, no,

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Speaker 7: Heidi also says she supplied call girls to members of

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Speaker 7: the Bush Senior and Clinton administrations. She would get calls

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Speaker 7: asking for arm candy for elite men for fundraising events

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Speaker 7: in Washington, DC, although she says she paid less attention

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Speaker 7: to which gray haired senator was going on dates with

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Speaker 7: which girl than maybe she should have been. Hirshberg wonders

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Speaker 7: why these powerful rich men who could date beautiful women

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Speaker 7: for free bother paying for it. Ivan Naje tells her his.

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Speaker 11: Take, the appeal of getting a prostitute is control. Men

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Speaker 11: can tell these girls what to do, and they do it,

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Speaker 11: and then they leave. The man is in control.

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Speaker 12: IV.

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Speaker 7: Of course, the sex workers do not think this at all.

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Speaker 7: They are the ones actually in control, milking these vain

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Speaker 3: I always take advantage of them. Name someone I know

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Speaker 2: If he's a high roller or a creep or sleazy,

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Speaker 2: I know I've heard of them.

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Speaker 3: I hope some of these guys get it. I can't

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Speaker 7: Yvonne Nage is also personally harassing Heidie's girls, encouraging them

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Speaker 7: to flip or defect to him. He also refers to

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Speaker 7: himself now as mac Daddy, the name he gave himself

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Speaker 7: for his line of erotic ceed rams. He calls one

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Speaker 7: Heidi girl named Susie to scare her and tapes the call.

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Speaker 11: You're welcome to be friends with Heidi. I mean you

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Speaker 11: can be friends with al Capone. I don't care. But

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Speaker 9: Let her call Bob Evans.

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Speaker 11: Maybe they can get that joining jail cells. You don't

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Speaker 11: fuck with Macdaddy, bitch. You fuck with Macdaddy and it's adios, motherfucker.

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Speaker 9: Just like that.

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Speaker 11: You saw what happened to fucking Alex. She used to

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Speaker 11: shot out of the water like a fucking buffalo. You

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Speaker 11: know she focked with mcdaddy, so just be straight, be cool,

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Speaker 11: and don't run no games.

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Speaker 7: Yvon Naj claims this is just his way of flirting

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Speaker 7: with Susie. Meanwhile, Heidi arrives to meet Anthony Brooklyer, the

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Speaker 7: pandering sentence he got reduced to probation.

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Speaker 2: If all lawyers like Tony, there wouldn't be any lawyer dukes.

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Speaker 7: Brooklyar coaches Heidi through their defense strategy, which is to

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Speaker 7: point out the hypocrisy of the men who illegally paid

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Speaker 7: he runs her through some various court scenarios, giving her

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Speaker 7: surely the johns are also guilty of paying for sex.

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Speaker 2: If I'm guilty, the men are guilty, and that's it.

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Speaker 2: I'm a twenty seven year old girl and they're big,

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Speaker 7: Heidi's lawyer, Anthony Brooklyar, is a handsome Italian American guy.

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Speaker 7: His hero is Elvis Presley, whose pompadour he imitates. Brooklyer

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Speaker 7: is known as a mob attorney because his first major

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Speaker 7: the La Mafia. He then defended a number of other

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Speaker 7: about from the Sopranos. Broocklyiar's current strategy is to get

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Speaker 5: We want all these guys to call their lawyers and

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Speaker 4: Elvis, the King would have filed this motion.

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Speaker 7: Hirschberg calls Heidi and Anthony Brooklyar's relationship flirty and a

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Speaker 7: little paternal, Heidi's favorite. Heidi laughs at his jokes and

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Speaker 7: lawyer sends a letter to Vanity Fair demanding a retraction,

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Speaker 7: stating the articles quotes can Earning James Kahn, Charlie Sheen,

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Speaker 7: Robert Evans, John Peters, Seve Roth, Claudia Carnisella, and Susie

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Speaker 7: Sterling are completely false and defamatory of mis Flies. Moreover,

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Speaker 7: the innuendo relating to Miss Fleiss's private life and her

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Speaker 7: alleged affair with an individual named Mimi is equally untrue.

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Speaker 7: Anthony Brooklyer was used to doing damage control for high

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Speaker 7: who I will tell you about now because it's another

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Speaker 7: interesting detour that fits into the whole subterranean history of

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Speaker 7: Los Angeles. Dominic Brooklyer went by the name Jimmy Ragatz

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Speaker 7: when he joined up with notorious Jewish gangster Mickey Cohen's

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Speaker 7: became a made man in nineteen forty seven. In nineteen

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Speaker 11: There.

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Speaker 7: He also legally changes his name to Dominic Brooklier, an

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Speaker 4: I don't know what it was. I saw it when

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Speaker 4: I was five years old.

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Speaker 5: My father could walk into a place and for whatever reason,

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Speaker 4: It was as if every eye was on him.

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Speaker 5: He just had an incredible charisma in a very subtle way.

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Speaker 4: He wasn't loud, he wasn't.

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Speaker 5: Fast talking, he was understated, but men respected my father.

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Speaker 7: Tony Brooklyar says the only hint of his dad's secret

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Speaker 7: life was a strange, sudden vacation the whole family took

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Speaker 7: to Texas right after his dad failed to kill Mickey Cohen.

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Speaker 7: Tony was the one to answer the door of their

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Speaker 7: vividly recalls seeing his father held at gunpoint by fifteen

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Speaker 7: of ours. When Dominic finally let his son in on

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Speaker 7: though it was in the past. In reality, Dominic Brooklyer

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Speaker 7: was still working for the Los Angeles crime family throughout

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Speaker 7: his son's life. Tony Brooklyar got good grades and enrolled

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Speaker 7: says he became a lawyer out of a desire to

435
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 7: defend his own dad should they ever come for him again.

436
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 7: In nineteen seventy four, Dominic Brooklyer and his underboss are

437
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 7: charged with racketeering under the Rico Act, and he pleads

438
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 7: guilty to one charge. In nineteen seventy five, Dominic Brooklyer

439
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 7: orders the murder of a Los Angeles hitman named Frank

440
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 7: the Bomb bomp In Sierro, who he suspects of being

441
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 7: a rat. Brooklier tried to kill bomp and Siero for

442
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 7: a year, but failed to convince the Bomb he wasn't

443
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 7: trying to kill him. He appointed him Consiglieri. However, Brooklire's

444
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 7: suspicion was correct. Bomp and Sero was a rat for

445
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 7: the FBI. The FBI used him as an informant and

446
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 7: rang a sting operation creating a fake pornography business in

447
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 7: Van Nuys, then had Bomp spread the word around town

448
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 7: about it and suggests the mob should shake them down. Naturally.

449
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 7: I wondered if Sopranos creator David Chase was in Los

450
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 7: Angeles working as a TV writer yet in this era,

451
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 7: and read the Los Angeles Times when the story took place.

452
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 7: A rat for the FBI, whose last name is Bompin Siero.

453
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 7: Was there any chance he'd named Big Pussy Bompinciero on

454
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 7: The Sopranos after this guy? So, because I am the

455
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 7: best journalist in the world, I asked my friend, the

456
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 7: writer Matt Zaller sites if he would ask David Chase.

457
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 7: I made him an offer he could refuse.

458
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 2: No.

459
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 7: I just sent him a DM on Twitter and he

460
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 7: said yes. He wrote David Chase, who said no, It's

461
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 7: just a coincidence. I guess there are a lot of

462
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 7: snitches with similar names, and the bomb is maybe a

463
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 7: pretty common name for snitches in the mob.

464
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 4: But now we know.

465
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 7: Dominic Brooklyar made good on his promise that bomp and

466
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 7: Sierro would have to be killed, and shortly after that,

467
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 7: Bompin Sero was shot to death in a phone booth

468
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 7: in nineteen seventy seven. Dominic Brooklyar claimed to his son

469
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 7: that he had nothing to do with the murder, and

470
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 7: Tony Brooklyer believed him enough to take on the case.

471
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 7: Another one of Dominic Brooklyar's underlings flipped on him, and

472
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 7: in nineteen eighty he was charged with racketeering. The plot

473
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 7: to extort money from bookmakers, loan sharks, and pornographers, as

474
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 7: well as Frank Bomp Andcierro's murder. Ultimately, Dominic was convicted

475
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 7: for racketeering and extortion who did of Frank the bomb

476
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 7: bompin Sierro's murder. He was sentenced to five years. The

477
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 7: FEDS cracked down on organized crime in Los Angeles in

478
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 7: nineteen eighty, rounding up and prosecuting the remaining living old

479
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 7: school gangsters. Dominic Brooklyar was tried, with his son, Anthony Brooklyar,

480
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 7: acting as his lawyer, making an emotional plea At the

481
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 7: sentencing in nineteen eighty one, Anthony Brooklyar tearfully begged the

482
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 7: judge to spare his father from prison.

483
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 5: There are things in his past he shouldn't be proud of,

484
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 5: and I'm not proud of, but he's always provided for

485
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 5: his family. Whatever sentence he does, he'll be missed every day.

486
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 7: Dominic Brooklar was sent to serve his sentence in an

487
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 7: Arizona prison. When Tony Brooklyar was flying to see his

488
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 7: father in the Tucson prison before his death, he begged

489
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 7: his dad not to get involved in the mafia again.

490
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 7: When he was released, Dominic's wife. Tony's mother, Frances, recalls

491
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 7: seeing her husband in prison and thinking he had aged

492
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 7: so much from being in jail that he seemed about

493
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 7: ninety years old.

494
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 5: Now, I hope that this was over, that the family

495
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 5: couldn't take any more of this.

496
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 4: My mother couldn't take any more of this.

497
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 5: And he said, sort of in a philosophic way, it's

498
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 5: been over for a long time.

499
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 4: We're dinosaurs.

500
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 7: In July of nineteen eighty four, Dominic Brooklyar drops dead

501
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 7: of a heart attack in jail. From then on, Anthony

502
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 7: Brooklyer takes a stand for loan sharks, radio payola blackmail scammers,

503
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 7: a carpet cleaning business, stock scam called zzzzz which involves

504
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 7: someone skimming money from their Jewish boss into a white

505
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 7: supremacist group, and two women accused of running a ten

506
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 7: million dollar boiler room telemarketing outfit in Encino. He also

507
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 7: defends whoever was still left from the world of organized

508
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 7: crime in Los Angeles.

509
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 5: You just do not have organized crime in southern California,

510
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 5: at least in the Italian mafia sense that we all

511
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 5: read about.

512
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 4: Beck East.

513
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 5: Here you have somebody hitting somebody over the head with

514
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 5: a rolled up newspaper.

515
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 4: Back there, they shoot people. It's different.

516
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 7: In nineteen eighty nine, he defends Mike Rizitello, who was

517
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 7: accused of killing a man named Bill Carroll over control

518
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 7: of a topless bar in Costa Mesa called the Mustang.

519
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 7: The Mustang was under investigation for alleged prostitution and drugs.

520
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 7: It allegedly netted a profit of one hundred and fifty

521
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 7: thousand dollars a month. The Mustang was controversial in conservative

522
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 7: Orange County, which tried and failed to shut down the

523
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,719
Speaker 7: topless bar after it opened on Harbor Boulevard. In nineteen

524
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 7: eighty two, Bill Carroll met Mike Rizzitello at an Italian

525
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 7: restaurant in Santa Ana. Riztel Hello brought his driver, Joey Grosso,

526
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 7: who owned a limo service called Diplomat Limousine Service in

527
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 7: Newport Beach, but arrived with no car. After dinner, Risitello

528
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 7: asked Carol for a ride back to their car, which

529
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 7: was in Costa Mesa. Risitello directed him to an empty

530
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 7: parking garage, where he and Grosso allegedly tackled Carol and

531
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 7: put three bullets in his head with a silencer. Bill

532
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 7: Carroll lived, but lost his vision. He refused to name

533
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 7: his attackers for eighteen months until he faced his own

534
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 7: set of bank fraud charges and flipped. Two other people

535
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 7: associated with the Mustang Strip Club were assassinated. The Mustang's

536
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 7: actual owner, Jimmy Casino, Yes, Jimmy Casino, was shot to

537
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 7: death in his Buena Park home. On New Year's Day.

538
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 7: A six foot seven inch tall guy who was a

539
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 7: bouncer known as Big George Yodzevich was shot three times

540
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 7: in the head and killed in Irvine. So Anthony Brooklyar,

541
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 7: son of the last mob don in southern California, continues

542
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 7: to defend cocaine dealers, money launderers, and the like at

543
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 7: his Beverly Hills law firm, Marx and Brooklyer. He helps

544
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,720
Speaker 7: out whichever of his dad's old friends are still alive

545
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 7: and gets their sentences softened. By nineteen eighty nine, Anthony

546
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 7: Brooklyer was trading on his mob pedigree for publicity. He

547
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 7: was the subject of a profile in the La Times.

548
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 7: The profile tells how Brooklyer played backyard catch with a

549
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 7: hit man named Jimmy the Weasel, how he thought his

550
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 7: father was really an Orange County used car salesman and

551
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 7: how he left his job as a deputy state Attorney

552
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 7: general to defend his father. The profile notes that Tony

553
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 7: Brooklyar wears Hugo boss suits, is one of the costliest

554
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 7: lawyers in LA and has the front table at a

555
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 7: restaurant named Giuseppe, where he fraternizes with mobsters and hollywo

556
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 7: With types alike, sometimes grabbing a mic to sing his

557
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 7: signature song Volare. In nineteen ninety, Anthony Brooklyer made a

558
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 7: cameo appearance in a failed TV pilot attempting to capitalize

559
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 7: on the success of the hit show La.

560
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 3: Law called Bar Girls.

561
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 7: Bar Girls is a show about bad girl lawyers, and

562
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 7: its most notable cast member is a very young Elizabeth Moss,

563
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 7: so you can see exactly why Tony Brooklyre appealed to

564
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 7: Heidie Flie, who also came from a close loyal family

565
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 7: and whose father was a public servant, but the sort

566
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 7: who sometimes had his picture taken for the newspaper. Tony

567
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 7: Brooklyer is Heidi's type of guy, a dashing, handsome, charismatic,

568
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 7: fast talking guy with ethics that bend towards her own.

569
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 7: The Hugo boss Suits probably didn't hurt, so Anthony Brooklyer

570
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 7: decides to argue that Heidie's entire escort operation was nothing

571
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 7: more than consensual sex between consenting adults.

572
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 4: Your honor, no one was hurt in this case, no

573
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 4: one was coerced, and no one operated under dures.

574
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 7: When Heidi World returns, how the mainstream media railroaded Heidi

575
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 7: Flights and sex workers' rights to fit their predetermined narrative.

576
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 7: Welcome back to Heidi World. The nineties news media did

577
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 7: not take up a pro sex work angle on the

578
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 7: Heidi Fly story because it did not jibe with theirs,

579
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 7: which was to exploit Heidi for media coverage while condemning

580
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 7: her practice. In mainstream media, all sex work is conflated

581
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 7: into one dangerous mass, ignoring the fact that voluntary sex

582
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 7: work is different from sex trafficking. The trope basically says

583
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 7: that doing sex work is self victimization and implies that

584
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 7: women who do it are knowingly putting themselves in the

585
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 7: line of fire. They never suggest that the answer to

586
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:30,240
Speaker 7: violence against sex workers is decriminalizing sex work. In this framing,

587
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 7: women can never be consensual participants in selling their own

588
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:38,720
Speaker 7: bodies because, surprise, surprise, in our misogynistic world. Women's bodies

589
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 7: don't really belong to them. They are chattel for reproduction,

590
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 7: and if a woman's sex appeal is going to be

591
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 7: sold for profit, the person who profits must be male.

592
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 7: This is not to say that women can't also exploit

593
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 7: other women and girl boss gatekeep gaslight, just that nobody

594
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 7: wanted to say that Heidi could be running an ethical business,

595
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 7: because the idea that sex work can exist ethically, let

596
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 7: alone that it exists naturally and should be decriminalized rather

597
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 7: than trying to eradicate it, is still a third rail.

598
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 7: The Heidi Fly story didn't fit the framework. Nobody died,

599
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,439
Speaker 7: and seemingly Heidi's potential for violence was always aimed right

600
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 7: back at Heidi herself. She was a self destructive person

601
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 7: with violent, abusive partners, and the only person at risk

602
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 7: of going to jail was Heidi herself, and mainly because

603
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 7: she couldn't stop herself from talking about it. The game

604
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,959
Speaker 7: didn't stop just because Heidi left it, and I'm sure

605
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 7: that somebody is probably running high end escorts in LA

606
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 7: to this day, someone who, if they're smart, will make

607
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 7: sure that we never hear their name. Heidi could have

608
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 7: had a very comfortable, upper middle class, straight life. But

609
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 7: she chose to gamble at all on Vice and hit

610
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 7: the jackpot. She pulled Hollywood's pants down and exposed the

611
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 7: entertainment business for what it really is, a grift to

612
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 7: make money that occasionally accidentally produces great art.

613
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 13: Everybody is titillated by this.

614
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 12: But people have been murdered, Studios have covered.

615
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 13: Up for the mall seasons of actors, people have supported

616
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 13: the drug habits of actors, and other people have built

617
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 13: into budgets allowances for cocaine. Those are horrible things. Prostitution

618
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 13: is weigh down on my list. Liz Smith, Gossip.

619
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 7: Columnist, Heidi is well aware that her trial is a

620
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 7: show trial. The LAPD are trying to use it as

621
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 7: propaganda to show how tough they are on crime. But

622
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 7: Heidi is seen through experiences like the death of her

623
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 7: friend Wendy Tar, that the LAPD are actually incompetent, ineffective

624
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 7: fools when it comes to important issues like domestic violence

625
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 7: or serial rape. They did nothing to solve the murder

626
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 7: of her friend and Wendy Tar, or find her murderer,

627
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 7: James Edward Knowle, who Heidi helped find by going on

628
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 7: a TV show.

629
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 12: The police knew who killed her.

630
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 2: They knew all about Noel's criminal history and how dangerous

631
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: he was. They had already tied Noel to at least

632
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 2: ten other rate cases, yet they did nothing about it.

633
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 7: She called the cops constantly to see how the Wendy

634
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 7: Tar case was progressing, which made her realize that the

635
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 7: cops didn't do anything. However, they put all of their

636
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 7: money and effort into rating her somebody conducting a consensual business.

637
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 2: When it came to investigating me, a twenty seven year

638
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 2: old girl with no violent criminal record, a task force

639
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 2: the size of the National Guard was called out to

640
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 2: search and destroy at virtually any cost.

641
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 12: I am not complaining about my arrest.

642
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: What I did was my choice, and I accept responsibility

643
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,240
Speaker 2: for it. But how many violent criminals are ignored because

644
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 2: law enforcement priorities are in the wrong order.

645
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 7: Lynn Hirschberg takes a side trip to meet Yvonne Naj

646
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 7: for herself. Yvonne Naj is now fifty five years old,

647
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 7: living in a condo in Century City whose walls are

648
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 7: hung with his art collection of Klaus Oldenburg lithographs, some

649
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 7: Liechtenstein's and one Rauschenberg. He meets her wearing jeans and

650
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 7: a sweatshirt. He points out the classiness of his place

651
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 7: and says he's nothing like the scumbag he's being portrayed

652
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 7: as in the press. The Macdaddy is a high class guy.

653
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 7: There are some tasteful nude photographs of young women on

654
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 7: the mantelpiece. He says he's not involved in the escort business.

655
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 7: He's just a natural magnet for hot girls.

656
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 11: The question should be how do they meet me. It's

657
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 11: terrible for me to say at this point because I

658
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 11: can be looped into this whole group, but highly has

659
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,919
Speaker 11: an affinity for real slimeballs.

660
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,720
Speaker 7: Yvon Nage has sold his life rights for a TV

661
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 7: movie for one hundred thousand dollars. He wants to be

662
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 7: played by the actor Armand de Sante and direct the

663
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 7: project himself.

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Speaker 9: The networks didn't really like it.

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00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 7: Despite the constant influx of young, beautiful women, which he

666
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 7: calls a life ruining occupational hazard, he still seems to

667
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 7: pine for Heidi for an abusive boyfriend who says he

668
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 7: really hates her. He's oddly sentimental about their relationship. He

669
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 7: saw her on Memorial Day that spring for the last time.

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00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 9: We spent the night together at the Mariat. She was

671
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 9: really emotional. She knows I'm the most decent thing that

672
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 9: has happened to her.

673
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,919
Speaker 2: I thought, I'll sleep with him and I'll be free

674
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 2: for six months. But I started hitting him in the

675
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 2: middle of the night.

676
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 12: I said, you're a freak.

677
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 2: Leave me alone, and I ran out.

678
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 11: I wanted to marry her, but I can to be

679
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 11: married to a drug addict. Heidie has a problem dealing

680
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 11: with reality, so she has to be anesthetized.

681
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 9: I'm riding the wave. I don't really think I.

682
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 4: Have a purpose.

683
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 7: Back at Heidie's in her girly bedroom, everything is pink,

684
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 7: polka dotted or trimmed with lace. There's a mirror on

685
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 7: one wall and a picture of Ben Franklin that she

686
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 7: says Robert Evans gave her.

687
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 2: I once told him I'd rather see Ben Franklin than

688
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 2: go to his house for a screening, and he sent

689
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 2: over that picture.

690
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 7: Heidi is bummed out because she missed the Fly's family

691
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 7: Thanksgiving for the first time in her life. She felt

692
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 7: too sad and guilty about it everything to face them

693
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 7: on the holiday.

694
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 2: It's the only time of the year that the entire

695
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 2: Flies clan gets together, but I just couldn't.

696
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 7: She spent Thanksgiving with her chosen family instead. Kelly Lang,

697
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 7: the first female nighttime newscaster in LA who married the

698
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 7: director William Friedkin, Claudia Curnecella who sold a red Corvette

699
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 7: to help Heidi pay her legal bills, and Heidi's bff,

700
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 7: Victoria Sellers.

701
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 2: It was great, except Victoria showed up two and a

702
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 2: half hours late and she seemed really strung out.

703
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 7: As a connoisseur of moneymaking, Heidi can't help but understand

704
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 7: why some of her most loyal girls are taking the

705
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 7: money to appear on camera. Brandy McLain is guessing on

706
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 7: the show A Current Affair, another nighttime tabloid show, and

707
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 7: signed a contract to be their correspondent on the Heidi

708
00:44:58,360 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 7: Fly Scandal.

709
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 2: They shot enough of Brandy for a mini series. I

710
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 2: know Brandy's a jabber jaw.

711
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 7: But Brandy says only nice things about Heidi on camera

712
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 7: and calls Heidi to make sure everything is cool between them.

713
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 7: Heidi was also worried about a sex tape that she

714
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 7: made herself with the Penthouse Pet that the Penthouse Pet

715
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 7: threatened to blackmail her with to get ahead of it.

716
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 7: She gave it to one of her girls to put

717
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 7: on the market herself.

718
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 2: It's very explicit that the phone tabs and the videotapes

719
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 2: and Brandy on TV, there's not one secret left.

720
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:37,760
Speaker 12: I feel like a circus event.

721
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 7: A few days later, Heidi has kicked Victoria Sellers out

722
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 7: of the house for doing the unthinkable, betraying her to

723
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 7: a UK tabloid without asking Heidi first. The interview runs

724
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 7: with the title how I became a Hollywood hooker and

725
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 7: sold my body for four thousand dollars a night, and

726
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 7: cashes in on the British tabloid heel of her father,

727
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 7: being the famous British comedian Peter Seller's.

728
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 2: She was supposed to get one hundred thousand dollars to

729
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 2: the interview, but she says she never got the money.

730
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 2: Victoria stabbed me in the back. I told her, if

731
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 2: you don't leave now, I think I'll kill you. The

732
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 2: thing with Victoria is that we were never lovers, but

733
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 2: there was a lot of sex stuff.

734
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 12: You don't share that with everyone.

735
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 2: I'm so upset. This bothered me more than the arrest.

736
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 7: The Lynn Hirschberg profile for Vanity Fair ends with an

737
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 7: image of heidiflices alone, betrayed by her best friends, left

738
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 7: out to dry by rich clients and the press, exiled

739
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 7: from her family in the spotlight, and totally isolated from

740
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 7: everything and everyone she loves. Pursued day and night, but

741
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 7: completely literally alone.

742
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 2: I never thought it would end up this way, but

743
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 2: this Victoria thing, there's some things you don't do.

744
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 12: You have to draw the line somewhere. People will do

745
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 12: anything for money, and I don't mean sex. They will

746
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 12: do anything. That's what I've learned.

747
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 7: Next time on Heidi World, Heidi harnesses the media frenzy

748
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 7: around her trial to launch a cutting edge line of

749
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 7: sleepwear called Heidiwear, while director Nick Broomfield makes a documentary

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00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 7: about Heidi Mania,