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Speaker 1: Good evening, sweet world. The twenty twenty NBA trade deadline

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Speaker 1: has officially passed, and we got the whole gang in

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Speaker 1: here to break it all down. I'm Jay Skis. We

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Speaker 1: got task backing off as TK, Leeley and JD pulling

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Speaker 1: the levers and twisting the knobs. We had ourselves a

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Speaker 1: florry guys of deals today. More than thirty players switched homes.

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Speaker 1: Some of them we really didn't see coming either. And

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Speaker 1: I still can't stop laughing about the Andre drummondre. We'll

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Speaker 1: get to that in a second, but we're gonna break

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Speaker 1: them all down here on this bonus podcast with no dunks.

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Speaker 1: We'll give you the details, you know, ask them questions

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Speaker 1: about the trades, and really grade them from every side

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Speaker 1: of them with each team involved in that particular trade. So,

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Speaker 1: first one, the big one of the day, right, it

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Speaker 1: was Wiggins traded to the Warriors for D'Angelo Russell and

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Speaker 1: picks tasks. You wanted it, you got it. The Warriors

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Speaker 1: get Wiggins Minnesota's twenty twenty one protected first round pick.

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Speaker 1: Now that's top three protected in twenty one. It becomes

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Speaker 1: unprotected in twenty two, and then also a twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: one second round pick, the Wolves getting D'Angelo Russell, Jacob

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Speaker 1: Evans and Omari Spellman. Which side of this do you

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Speaker 1: want to start with when in terms of grading, you

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Speaker 1: want to go with the Wolves or Warriors? You tell me, I.

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Speaker 2: Think the Warriors was more fun, right, Okay, well just

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Speaker 2: take fun?

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Speaker 1: Okay? What do you give the Warriors get to in

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Speaker 1: terms of a grade or you'll get to that one ye, I'll.

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Speaker 2: Get to the Wolves. I think I think you got

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Speaker 2: a grade them nice and high. Maybe because I was

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Speaker 2: excited for this trade, Maybe because I'm excited to see

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Speaker 2: the Warriors just try and break in Andrew Wiggins into

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Speaker 2: the player that he could be. I give him an

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Speaker 2: a minus. I think Andrew Wiggins most talented player traded today,

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Speaker 2: and that doesn't always bode well for on the basketball court.

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Speaker 2: I understand that. But take Andrew Wiggins from the number

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Speaker 2: one forget about a salary, forget that he was a

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Speaker 2: number one pick six years ago. But take him away

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Speaker 2: from that situation Minnesota as a nineteen year old when

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Speaker 2: he was drafted to now gonna be twenty five pretty soon,

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Speaker 2: in the prime of his career, in a situation where

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Speaker 2: he should be held accountable and that's the worrisome part.

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Speaker 2: He's never had to be that guy who's had to

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Speaker 2: listen to people, So now he's gonna be prodded day

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Speaker 2: in and day out by Draymond Green. I can just

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Speaker 2: see it right now. It's like a cattle rude come

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Speaker 2: on man, come on, man, come on man. So you

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Speaker 2: think that's gonna be good for Wiggins, Well, it's better

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Speaker 2: than not. I'm not certain it's gonna work, absolutely not.

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Speaker 2: But Kevin Durant was leaving. There's no doubt he's leaving

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Speaker 2: to turn him around, turn it into D'Angel Russell, and

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Speaker 2: then all of a sudden they go Andrew Wiggins and

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Speaker 2: an incredible pick, a very very good pick in Minnesota's pick.

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Speaker 2: So I think they did really well. But Andrew Wiggins

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Speaker 2: just going down the pecking order from a number one

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Speaker 2: where he'll have more open shots than he's ever had,

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Speaker 2: and will he play defense? Will he be as good

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Speaker 2: That is not a guarantee at all. But he's excited

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Speaker 2: to go. And that may last a week because it's

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Speaker 2: Andrew Wiggins. But it also, I don't. I just think

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Speaker 2: they had to try and get somebody extremely talented to

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Speaker 2: So I'm pumped for them, and I'm pumped for Wiggans

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Speaker 2: in this new situation.

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Speaker 1: It really is a nature versus nurture here, this test

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Speaker 1: with Wiggans in Golden State. I'm excited to see if

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Speaker 1: it works. And I do have property available on Wiggins Islands,

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Speaker 3: And everybody thinks that in the same way as Task,

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Speaker 3: this is probably the best possible situation for Wiggins. You

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Speaker 3: and you got open shots. If he can't succeed here,

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Speaker 3: then then I mean it's not the end of the line.

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Speaker 3: The dude's twenty four years old. He's gonna be in

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Speaker 3: it's not good with the Warriors, he's gonna be Jeff Green.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna get the Jeff Green label even more so

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Speaker 4: One of the big problems with Andrew Wiggins is that

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Speaker 4: pecking order offensively behind Towns in Butler, and he didn't

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Speaker 4: really thrive in that role. Now he's going to a

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Speaker 4: completely new team. I don't think you know, the athleticism

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Speaker 4: and the talent has always been there. It's the attitude

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Speaker 4: walks through games, and other times you see him and

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Speaker 4: he just goes missing again. So he's going to go

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Speaker 4: to a situation. But of course the Warriors know exactly

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Speaker 4: what they're getting and they know they've got a project

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Speaker 4: to figure out a way to get the best out

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Speaker 4: of him, because if they do, then sure, this is

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Speaker 4: a great move from the Warriors. But I think I think,

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Speaker 4: you know, in six seasons now, we've seen too much

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Speaker 4: sort of passive play from Andrew Wiggins that I don't

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Speaker 4: have great high hopes for him. And also I feel

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Speaker 4: the Warriors already right now, two years from now, including

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Speaker 4: Wiggans salary, they're at one hundred and sixty million with

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Speaker 4: four players.

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Speaker 1: Oh, they are locked in to their core steph Yeah.

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Speaker 4: At forty five, Clay around thirty eight, Wiggins is on

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Speaker 4: about thirty one at that point, and Draymond Green is

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Speaker 4: going to be around twenty four million. So that's one

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Speaker 4: hundred and sixty million. The cap always goes well, and

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Speaker 4: you know what, when you factor in this this China

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Speaker 4: stuff that's gone on, the cap may be going down

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Speaker 4: and down.

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Speaker 2: So so report is going, yeah, I touched down.

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Speaker 4: So the Warriors are going to have at some point

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Speaker 4: some decisions to make because I don't think they can

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Speaker 4: Steph is the one that is probably going to be

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Speaker 4: a conversation for another day. Wiggins is talented, but he

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Speaker 1: Simple though, as the Warriors going seeing you know, Russell

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Speaker 1: Russell there and going, you know what, I don't love

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Speaker 1: the chances of this actually working, this sort of three ball,

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Speaker 1: three guard system when both our stars are back and

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Speaker 1: Russell off the ball, I don't think it's gonna work.

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Speaker 1: You know, Wiggins maybe does fit that a little bit better.

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Speaker 1: Is that where we're at here and then Wars the

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Speaker 1: picks and oh yeah, we get out of the tax

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Speaker 1: by also including Evans in here and Spelman and they

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Speaker 1: you know, they got a million open roster spots that

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Speaker 1: they got to fill with minimum contracts, but they're gonna

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Speaker 1: try and stay below that tax line to avoid the

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Speaker 1: repeater at tax. So that's another little plus plus there

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Speaker 1: for him. But it might just be as symbol as like,

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Speaker 1: all right, well, both these guys have their problems in

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Speaker 1: Wiggins and Russell, but in terms of our fit with

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Speaker 1: our stars and athletic sort of wing, like an old

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Speaker 1: Harrison Barnes maybe works better than this and Russell.

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Speaker 5: I think you're exactly right.

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Speaker 3: I think that Andrew Wiggins himself is maybe the fourth

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Speaker 3: most important piece of this trade for the Warriors.

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Speaker 5: The pick is huge because either it'll give him some.

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Speaker 3: Young talent on a pretty small contract, or they can

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Speaker 3: package it together with their pick that they're going to

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Speaker 3: have this summer, and you can probably get a pretty

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Speaker 3: solid veteran player. Then, like you're saying the repeater tax,

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Speaker 3: they're saving a ton of money for a team that's

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Speaker 3: gonna be one of the worst.

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Speaker 5: In the league.

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Speaker 3: You don't want to pay the repeater tax if if

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Speaker 3: you can get out of it, And then you're right,

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Speaker 3: the fit is also better getting a wing, and it

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Speaker 3: just happens to be Andrew Wiggins because he had that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly right. So okay, so Test gave it,

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Speaker 1: you know, fairly high grade. You do you you're a

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Speaker 1: little lower. It sounds like from the Warriors side of things, Lee,

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Speaker 1: I give it a bay.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's got the potential certainly to be an A,

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Speaker 4: but it's also got the potential to be a D.

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Speaker 4: It really does.

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Speaker 1: Let's not forget to see as well or a D.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Look, honestly, I mean Andrew Wiggins has been you know,

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Speaker 4: he's been the whipping boy for a long time, particularly

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Speaker 4: this season. I think it stood out a lot because

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Speaker 1: Great, here we go, and then then he's flourishing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, then he just disappeared like a fart in the

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Speaker 4: wind to quote a sure shank redemption there. But because

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Speaker 4: really that's the thing, I mean, like he's still averaging

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Speaker 4: over a twenty game. We treat him like he is like,

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Speaker 4: you know, can barely get on the court and he's

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Speaker 4: shooting terribly from everywhere. But it's just it's just when

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Speaker 4: it's like he's got such incredible gifts athletically and physically

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Speaker 4: to go out there and contest shots and to to

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Speaker 4: be a great on board defender, but he just doesn't

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Speaker 4: seem to want to do it. And that's, I think

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Speaker 4: is what's frustrating. So yes, potentially an A, I'll go

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Speaker 4: with a B.

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Speaker 1: Definitely not No, no, all right, mister ellis spoken in class.

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Speaker 3: Man, I'm just imagining Lee as a teacher coming in

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Speaker 3: and handed out the rubric to the kids for what

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Speaker 3: they needed to do for their final projects. You're like, man,

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Speaker 3: a lot of this seems like you're just gonna be

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Speaker 3: winged it on the fly.

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Speaker 5: Mister Less, He's like, why not?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right? What about From the wolf's side,

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Speaker 1: they finally get their guy in D'Angelo Russell. Took him

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Speaker 1: a little while to get there. Really, it took Wiggins

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Speaker 1: and Tigue and Covington and multiple picks across multiple trades

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Speaker 1: to get to that point. But their guy that they

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Speaker 1: were sort of targeting in free agency in Russell and

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Speaker 1: missing out on. They get, Now, what's sort of your

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Speaker 1: grade and let's talk this out. Is Russell gonna work

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Speaker 1: there with his buddy in Town's team friendship.

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Speaker 5: Well, the Wolves are gonna be really good at offense.

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Speaker 2: Numbers is right around where they're gonna finish next year. Wow,

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Speaker 1: And we at least they kept their peck for this. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, offensively, those two guys I definitely do think

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Speaker 2: It's the other three spots on the on the floor

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Speaker 1: It's very comparable. I said this on a podcast earlier

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Speaker 1: And again it costs you a guy in Wiggins that Look,

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Speaker 2: They don't have Kaprim this offseason. It's a bad free

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Speaker 4: Also, that pick that the Warrior is a getting unprotected

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's in play. It's definitely.

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Speaker 1: Sure, let's keep it moving here. This one, well, this

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Speaker 1: He's going to be getting paid regardless, either in his

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Speaker 4: This still feels it was like an error to me

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Speaker 4: when I saw Kevin o'konda tweeted out first what the

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Speaker 4: was like, okay, that that's got to be a fake

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Speaker 1: What's your agree here for the Pistons while we're doing this?

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, wow, bad be.

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Speaker 2: For beans worldwide wives. So that he was traded for

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Speaker 2: a bag of chips, had a bag of beans?

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Speaker 1: Beans?

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Speaker 2: See chips? Yeah, well, let's get with it, man.

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Speaker 1: this trading away Drummond, even if it is nothing, they

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Speaker 5: Grind the coffee grinder.

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Speaker 3: Good.

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Speaker 1: But they've made that decision where they've gone, Okay, we

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Speaker 4: Well in that case, why did they wait until today

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Speaker 1: Because nobody wants them? Well, look the rumors three weeks ago,

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Speaker 2: That's that. Yeah, I like how they're picking a direction

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Speaker 1: Like this is twenty twenty, man four or five years ago.

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Speaker 1: He's going for multiple I bet first round picks.

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Speaker 2: Like Marcus Morris was traded. We'll get to it for

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Speaker 2: he is a devalued big man, but he's also young.

430
00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,240
Speaker 2: Marcus Morris is older. Yeah, and he's what you know,

431
00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,679
Speaker 2: forget about the former All Star that he is. He

432
00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,840
Speaker 2: should just I don't know, I just don't know.

433
00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,679
Speaker 1: This is an astonishing low price for a guy that

434
00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,840
Speaker 1: is a two time All Star who's only twenty six,

435
00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:03,040
Speaker 1: and you know, has a skill set I mean a defined,

436
00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:07,240
Speaker 1: unbelievable skill set in at least rebounding the ball. It's crazy.

437
00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:08,440
Speaker 5: He's good at rebounding.

438
00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,760
Speaker 3: But the reporting of it was crazy to read too,

439
00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,959
Speaker 3: because the teams that were possibly considering trading for Drummond,

440
00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:15,560
Speaker 3: they're like, we don't want to trade for him and

441
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,040
Speaker 3: have him leave, immediately decline the option and then be

442
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,480
Speaker 3: a free agent, whereas the Pistons are like, we don't

443
00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,240
Speaker 3: want him to sign that option, the one that we

444
00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,880
Speaker 3: gave him not too long ago. But then the other

445
00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,000
Speaker 3: teams who are like, maybe we could take Andre Drummer

446
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,359
Speaker 3: were like, actually, does he matter at all for winning?

447
00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:33,040
Speaker 3: Apparently every team in the league decided no. Yeah, so

448
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,800
Speaker 3: you know, for me, it's more like, I guess somebody's

449
00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:37,919
Speaker 3: got to get the rebounds into Detroit and it apparently,

450
00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,080
Speaker 3: as Andre Drummond, we will see who is the true

451
00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,919
Speaker 3: great rebounder now that he's on the Cavs with Kevin

452
00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,560
Speaker 3: Love and Tristan Thompson.

453
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:47,359
Speaker 1: Rebound rate, Yeah, they really should.

454
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,440
Speaker 3: The ball should never go to the other team off

455
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,600
Speaker 3: the rim. They should somehow get every single one.

456
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,560
Speaker 2: People are looking at the Clippers teams that brought up

457
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:58,359
Speaker 2: Marcus Morris, and they looked at the Clippers and thought

458
00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,160
Speaker 2: they need a center to guard Anthony Davis. But as

459
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,120
Speaker 2: Trey said, does he impact winning? Is he going to

460
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,680
Speaker 2: be an impact player on the floor? And they said,

461
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,399
Speaker 2: you know what, our chemistry is more important. People were

462
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 2: upset the Lakers didn't go get him. If if you

463
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 2: got him for free, maybe our free is better. Maybe

464
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:18,360
Speaker 2: we can do give you something. Maybe Rob Blanka can

465
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,960
Speaker 2: give you a I don't know, a fashion instructure tutorial

466
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,919
Speaker 2: or something like something. But the Lakers said, no, our

467
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 2: chemistry is too good, and that's that's the conundrum of

468
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 2: Andre Drummond. It's not just a big man, it's it's

469
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,879
Speaker 2: who is he? What is what is he going to

470
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 2: give you? I think he he can.

471
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 1: Be score, but doesn't matter at all.

472
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, the range is Assan Whiteside to DeAndre Jordan I

473
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 2: think with him, and he wants to be DeAndre Jordan

474
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 2: when he was almost signed by the Dallas Mavericks. He

475
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,360
Speaker 2: wants to be more than just a rebounder what we're

476
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,160
Speaker 2: calling him right now. He wants to be a ball handler.

477
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,159
Speaker 2: And we're gonna have two much of that of him

478
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 2: and Kevin Love. But I think it's gonna be a

479
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 2: lot like Kevin Love, I'm sorry, a lot like Andre

480
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,360
Speaker 2: Drummond and Blake Griffin. Like it's just not gonna work

481
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 2: all that well, and especially in another situation where the

482
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:06,880
Speaker 2: culture's bad.

483
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, what are the Calves thinking here too? I mean

484
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 1: that is the other side of this. It's uh, is

485
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,199
Speaker 1: it just a three month rental to see if it

486
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 1: works and see if he, you know, can help with

487
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 1: the sex Land backcourt and you know, if the interesting

488
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,880
Speaker 1: eventually is gone. I mean there are rumors that he's

489
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 1: not gonna be bought out but he's a free agent

490
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 1: in the summer, So is he gone.

491
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 2: You know, like it's nobody's coming here, so let's give

492
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,920
Speaker 2: it a whirl, like guess instead, Yeah?

493
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:34,439
Speaker 5: Is that? Is that it?

494
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 1: And then and then it still is what does he

495
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 1: do with a contract? I have been saying this entire

496
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 1: time that Andre Drummond is testing free agency. There are

497
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 1: no other for agents that he is gonna go and

498
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 1: want to lock up years at around the twenty five

499
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,959
Speaker 1: million mark. I mean, I know it would be what

500
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 1: twenty eight point seven. I think on the top of

501
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 1: my head that that would be his uh, you know,

502
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,919
Speaker 1: his final year the contract. If he sticks with that

503
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 1: and doesn't test free agency.

504
00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 4: But yeah, he's gonna, he's gonna then could be pretty

505
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 4: soft for him then if.

506
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 1: Well, geez, yeah, I mean it does feel that way.

507
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's the thing. If no team wanted

508
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 4: him and to even get a chance to have him

509
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 4: to re sign with them, then if he opts out

510
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 4: of that contract and then expects to get the B

511
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 4: one hundred and whatever dollar payday, it's probably not out

512
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,400
Speaker 4: there at all. I mean, like, based on this, if

513
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 4: this is the best they could get for him, then

514
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 4: maybe it's not. I mean, I definitely look like he's

515
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 4: going to get something, but he's you don't you don't

516
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 4: see teams are going to fall over each other to

517
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 4: try to sign him for you know, four years or

518
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 4: if the Cavs decide to sign him for the five years.

519
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's unlikely, I.

520
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 2: Would guess, so the right skins though about guys looking

521
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,120
Speaker 2: at the free agent craft and saying, well, the biggest

522
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 2: name is no one. I mean, the biggest name right

523
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 2: now who's potentially going to be a free agent is

524
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:49,959
Speaker 2: who drumming to Rosen. But yeah, those are the interesting

525
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 2: part is those guys who have a player option for

526
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 2: next year Andrea can say, hey, I want twenty eight

527
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 2: million dollars or you know what, there's no free agents

528
00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 2: out there going to give a shot or demark and

529
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 2: say tenty seven point seven or I don't know, four

530
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 2: for eighty if some if somebody wants or even Gordon

531
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 2: Hayward is in the same boat thirty four million. That's

532
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 2: gonna be the real interesting part because there aren't This

533
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 2: free Asian crop is so much inferior to last year's

534
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 2: when there's a ton of movement.

535
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 1: And isn't isn't it when you're drumming and you're a

536
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 1: big guy, what he does. The more years you wait

537
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 1: waiting for your contract, isn't less or more likely that

538
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 1: your value is just gonna go down more and more

539
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 1: because the way the game is being played, Like, so, yeah,

540
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 1: just get it now when you can. If maybe the

541
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 1: Hornets or another team were.

542
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, we fool the Cavs, get two good months

543
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 2: with the Calves.

544
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 1: Calves grade just quickly on this, then it is perplexing.

545
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 1: But it didn't cost a lot.

546
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 5: I'm giving the Cavs a C.

547
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I got them too.

548
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 3: Sure, I mean, you are getting under a Drummond. He's

549
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 3: better than John Henson and Brandon Knight. He's the best

550
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 3: center on your team now, and you gave up nothing, so.

551
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 2: I get I'll give him an A plus A plus.

552
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 2: Why not?

553
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: They gave away nothing?

554
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, they gave You're right, they give away guys who

555
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 2: Brandon Knight? Yeah know, John Henson? You know, are they

556
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 2: gonna play playing next year in the NBA? Hopefully for

557
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 2: that but second round pick? Maybe he will too, But

558
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 2: I don't know. Andre Trummond's better than those guys all.

559
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 1: Right, you brought up Marcus Morris the Clippers. They won

560
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: the coveted Marcus Morris arms race. That's what it turned into,

561
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 1: and it became a three team deal. Clippers get Marcus

562
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 1: Morris and Isaiah Thomas who has already been waived. The

563
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 1: Knicks get Moharkless, the Clippers twenty twenty first round pick,

564
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 1: the right to swap a twenty twenty one first rounder

565
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 1: with the Clips, and Detroit's twenty twenty one second round pick.

566
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 1: Also the rights to some Ukrainian point guard that was

567
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: drafted a couple of years ago. And the Wizards they

568
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 1: get in the mix here, they slide in and get

569
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: Jerome Robinson. Yes, it's a three team deal. Looked at

570
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: at first like it was just gonna be Clippers Knicks,

571
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: but the Whiz that get Jerome Robinson in only giving

572
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 1: up it obviously getting just sort of a young flyer

573
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: on that guy. So, Hippers, what's the greed for this?

574
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 1: How high are you on Marcus Morris?

575
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 4: I'm going a B. I think Marcus Morris is an

576
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 4: upgrade on mo Harkless. They're going all in. They obviously

577
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 4: are trying to win now they're they're championship windows open.

578
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 4: They want to show Kawhi and Paul George we're doing

579
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 4: everything we can right now. And I think mo Herkless

580
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 4: and Patrick Patterson were the two guys that they just

581
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 4: can't rely on. So they get rid of one. They

582
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 4: get Marcus Morris, who's tough guy, he can hit threes.

583
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 4: He's shooting the ball really well from downtown this year.

584
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 4: He sort of fits their culture. So I think the

585
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 4: Clippers have come out of today a little bit better

586
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 4: than they were yesterday. So for them, that's great. They

587
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,120
Speaker 4: had to give up another first round pick, but again,

588
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 4: that's the price I'm sure they're prepared to pay right

589
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 4: now to say again to everybody, we're trying to win

590
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 4: it right now. We're not waiting, we're not worried about

591
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 4: the future. We're going all in. So we upgrade our

592
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 4: roster today. It's a good job by the Clippers.

593
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta love it. For the Clippers, I think

594
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 2: they feel a little bit more comfortable going into a

595
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 2: leak series, which they probably felt comfortable doing. Marcus Morris

596
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 2: has defended Lebron James pretty well in the past. He's

597
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 2: got some highlights with the Boston Celtics defending him and

598
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 2: that three four five or two three four, whatever you

599
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 2: want to call it of Morris. Let's say they finished

600
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 2: games together, Kawhi and Paul George can maybe you know,

601
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 2: guard Anthony Davis sort of gang guard him as well.

602
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 2: They they got to be jacked, especially because they beat

603
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 2: the Lakers again, you know, in a way. So now

604
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 2: they're going to go get Darren Collison and beat the

605
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 2: Lakers again potentially if he's a free agent. I mean,

606
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 2: it's the Doc Rivers team right now, like with these

607
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 2: these rough and tumble type dudes.

608
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and of all the top contenders, I mean, they're

609
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: the only team that really did anything of no, I

610
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: mean Bucks stayed Pat, and the Lakers obviously stayed Pat,

611
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 1: and Celtics and Raptors. I know that Heat did some

612
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: things and we can get to them. But yeah, I'm

613
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 1: with you guys that you got to give this a

614
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: I guess I go WI minus A minus. You know,

615
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: Marcus Morris, he's on fire right now, but he is

616
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 1: possibly doing the classic twenty points per game on a

617
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 1: bad team playing for the New York Knicks. But someone's

618
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: got a score. But on you know, you look at

619
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: his shooting's three point shooting. Over the last two and

620
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: a half seasons, he's got a ton of attempts and

621
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 1: he's made thirty nine point two percent from distance. So there,

622
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: every team always needs another shooter. You always do, and

623
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 1: it doesn't help, it doesn't hurt. I should say that

624
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: he plays some physical defense at times, like you said,

625
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: possibly in a series with Lebron, So I'm I'm high

626
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: on this.

627
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, a little versatility, a little toughness, and a little

628
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 3: bit of shooting. That's what you're getting from Marcus Morris.

629
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 3: I do kind of keep coming back to the fact

630
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 3: that he was playing on the Knicks, like if he

631
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 3: was such a title swinging kind of guy, he wouldn't

632
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 3: have ended up on the Knicks this year. The Celtics

633
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 3: probably could have brought him back if they really wanted to,

634
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 3: you know, that kind of thing. But he's the biggest

635
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 3: gets I suppose for a contender, So yeah, I'm with you.

636
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 5: I think it's an a minus. They also opened up

637
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 5: some roster spots.

638
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 3: Maybe that's Collis and maybe another big guy comes available

639
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 3: on the buy out market, so Marcus more Horris he'll

640
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 3: fit in. He also, he's a little bit of a

641
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 3: pounds the ball kind of guy wants to get his

642
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 3: ISO shots up. But that's fine. That's how the Clippers

643
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 3: play most of the time, so he will fit in.

644
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: Doc Rivers sort of got himself a little souped up

645
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Speaker 1: version of James Posey to me here back with the

646
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: you know, seven eight Celtics run. That's what he is

647
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: to me, Like a better version offensively, but a veteran

648
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: dude that will maybe start in Marcus Morris's case, but

649
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: Posey coming off the bench, physical defense, and he had threes.

650
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: Remember that playoff runt. It was Ray Allen, Paul Pierce

651
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: and James Posey was next in terms of knocking down

652
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: threes in that playoff series. And that's what they're hoping

653
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: Morris can give him. So a little, you know, a

654
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: bigger Posey is what Doc is getting here. In my opinion,

655
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: they got a great rotation. When you look at their

656
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: team right now, I mean so deep. If it's Zubats

657
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: and Marcus Morris and Kawhi and Paul George and Patrick

658
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: Beverly and your bench is Mantras, Harral, Jamichael Greene, McGruder,

659
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: Landry Shammitt, Lou Williams, they may not be done. You

660
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: said it is there a Callison coming in? There, is

661
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: there a Marvin Williams coming in there, There'll be probably

662
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: a biot guy or too.

663
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 2: They have two roster spots. They're gonna beat the Lakers again.

664
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Speaker 2: I think the Lakers reportedly are working out j R.

665
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 2: Smith according to mark Stein.

666
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's the other thing for the clip is

667
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 4: the Kers. We are apparently trying to get Marris.

668
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: Himself, right, So it's a win win. Yeah, you got

669
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Speaker 1: them and you prevent the other team that you're probably

670
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Speaker 1: playing in a playoff series from getting them, for sure.

671
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Speaker 2: And teams did want to. Trey mentioned why didn't the

672
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 2: Celtics keep him around? It's totally true, but the Spurs

673
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: did offer him a big doozy of a contract as well,

674
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Speaker 2: and that's.

675
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Speaker 4: Why he agreed agreed to that deal.

676
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Speaker 2: Didn't he? He did, And they said to the Knicks,

677
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Speaker 2: I don't know why.

678
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Speaker 1: What about the Knicks in what they got back? You know,

679
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: really the pick is the big part there, but there

680
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: is Herkless as well. You have a grade for them

681
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Speaker 1: a plus.

682
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 5: Just for get the man they got.

683
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Speaker 3: They were going to keep Marcus Morris last week and

684
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Speaker 3: sign him to a long, current term contract. Instead they

685
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 3: got more Harkless, a decent player, and a first round

686
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Speaker 3: pick and.

687
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 2: A pick up. Yeah, you never know.

688
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 4: That's the Knicks are usually giving away they pick. In

689
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 4: this instance, the Nicks have seven first round picks. Now

690
00:30:59,440 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 4: the next four.

691
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Speaker 1: They finally got a little war chest there to work.

692
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Speaker 4: Will they hold onto them though? Will they at some

693
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 4: point just say no? Someone else taken? Will take Deangela Russell.

694
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Speaker 1: Okay, so you guys are high on that and the Wizards,

695
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: as I said, just I don't know what they have

696
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: a grade you're throwing on that, but taking a flyer

697
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: on a guy like Jerome Robinson and his bushy eyebrows.

698
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 3: He's got a good bushy eyebrows face, good old man face.

699
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 3: Apparently they've liked him in the twenty eighteen draft. Yeah,

700
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 3: that's what Fred Katz's tweets told me. Okay, So c

701
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Speaker 3: plus Jerome Robinson, I've seen him running around for the

702
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 3: Clippers this year.

703
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Speaker 5: Nice, he's got a good run.

704
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Speaker 1: He struggled to shoot the ball. I mean he's I

705
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Speaker 1: think he's played like under eighty games over two years

706
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,239
Speaker 1: with the Clips, and he shot thirty six percent from

707
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Speaker 1: the floor. And I think he was known as a shooter,

708
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: so well, that's what you want to pair together. But

709
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Speaker 1: maybe he gets a going wizard. It's going to get

710
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,479
Speaker 1: an opportunity. And it's basically glorified pickup ball anyway in Washington,

711
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: so why not it costs you it? Who was then

712
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: just waved anyway? Though? Didn't you just say it was

713
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: getting a bobblehead night coming around the corner here?

714
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Speaker 3: I think he had a bobblehead night for February seventh,

715
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 3: oh literally tomorrow, geez.

716
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Speaker 2: I think yeah. Fred Katz tweeted that out. I do

717
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 2: believe the marketers straggling with the scheduling. There not a

718
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 2: great idea. The biggest drum Robinson highlight I think is, unfortunately,

719
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Speaker 2: hopefully this doesn't last for his career is John Morant.

720
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 2: Remember he crossed him over and then stared him down.

721
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 2: So yes, don't you don't want that if your name

722
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 2: is googled that to come up first. Not good, but

723
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 2: hopefully he's a player. And it really does stink for

724
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 2: Isaiah Thomas, the loser in the situation. He probably gets

725
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 2: told here going to the Clippers, going to another LA team.

726
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 2: I saw somebody tweet very meanly Isaiah Thomas running out

727
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 2: of teams. I mean, he's playing for a lot of teams.

728
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 2: This would have been his six team in the last

729
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 2: four years, eighth overall, and he gets cut, so hopefully

730
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Speaker 2: somebody picks him up.

731
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Speaker 1: One more big deal from deadline day, and we talked

732
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Speaker 1: about it briefly on this morning's daily podcast, though it

733
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Speaker 1: changed a little bit here. Andrea Goodala sent to the

734
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Speaker 1: Miami Heat in a three team deal. But it's not

735
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Speaker 1: the team that we were maybe thinking it was going

736
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: to be in Okac with Gallinari in the mix this morning. No,

737
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: those reports, I guess we're not true or it didn't

738
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Speaker 1: come to fruition. The Heat get Andre Igudala, who agreed

739
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: to a two year, thirty million dollar extension, second year

740
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: team option, Jay Crowder and Solomon Hill. The Grizzlies get

741
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: Justice Winslow, Dion Waiters and Gorgie Jang from the Wolves,

742
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Speaker 1: who pick up James Johnson in this three team deal.

743
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Speaker 1: Let's start with the Heat.

744
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 5: Tasks.

745
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:29,959
Speaker 1: Definitely want to start with you because you weren't here

746
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: this morning.

747
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 2: I said Gorgie Jang was a Wolf. I forgot about that.

748
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 2: That's all right, Yeah, what do.

749
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Speaker 1: You got for the Miami heats grade in getting Igdala

750
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: and then Crowder and Solomon.

751
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 2: Hill here and opening up CAP's face this summer as well,

752
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 2: which is juicy for them. The grade A minus. Go

753
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 2: for it, man, This is great for everybody in the

754
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 2: Eastern Conference to see pat Riley working it doing it

755
00:33:55,000 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 2: as Yeah. I don't put them in the Bucks stratosphere yet,

756
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 2: but I do see them giving them a run. And

757
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 2: if if they believe they let's say they get into

758
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 2: a conference float with the Bucks. Uh, if they have

759
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: enough confidence in their locker room to look across the

760
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 2: floor and say that guy Giannis hasn't won yet, why

761
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,240
Speaker 2: can't it be us? They have enough I think vets

762
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:21,919
Speaker 2: now like Andrea Goodala who's a finals MVP, A guy

763
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 2: like Goaron Dravich who won a world championship, Like, there's enough.

764
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 2: I think swagger in that locker room.

765
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Speaker 1: Even Crowder have playoff experience.

766
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and bam Adebayo to guard Giannis is a pretty

767
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 2: good matchup. But is a Jimmy Butler team ever gonna

768
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 2: be able to get over the hump? It's a fairly

769
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 2: good question. But I think let's say it's Jimmy, Andrea Goodella,

770
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 2: Goaron dragicz bam Adebayo, and then you can throw in

771
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 2: Jay Crowder. You can throw in a shooter Tyler Hero

772
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 2: Kendricks as a five sum that's pretty mean. That is

773
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 2: great if Agodala is ready to play a bunch of minutes,

774
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,720
Speaker 2: uh and hopefully he will be. Yeah, that's an upgrade

775
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 2: man that that culture got them meets sort of justice Winslow, expendable.

776
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 4: I feel like I say this all the time, but

777
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,720
Speaker 4: I think this is a great situation for Jay Crowder.

778
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 4: I think he fits his team. But I thought he

779
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 4: was a good fit in Dallas when he went to Boston.

780
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 4: He went to Cleveland. Yeah, great, they need some toughness.

781
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 4: He can shoot the three. He went to Utah. Oh

782
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 4: he fits Utah. He's a tough guy. He's a defensive guy.

783
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 4: Goes to Memphis. That's what they need. A veteran, a

784
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 4: tough guy, a defender, goes to Miami. This is perfect

785
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 4: for him. But there must be something off with him

786
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 4: because teams do just keep on moving on from him.

787
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 4: But I think this is a good sit in Miami

788
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 4: because surely this is what they like, don't they tough guys.

789
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 4: He's just going to have to shoot the three, and

790
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 4: they're going to throw him on various players to defend.

791
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 4: He's not a playmaker. They don't need him to do that.

792
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 4: He's not a sort of guy who you feel is

793
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 4: a bad locker room guy. I just get that feeling

794
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 4: that he's willing to sacrifice and do the dirty work.

795
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,959
Speaker 4: So this could be a great little addition to the heat.

796
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 3: But I'm sure now one season in Boston has thrown

797
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 3: you off. He shot forty percent from three one year

798
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 3: in Boston, and every single he's in his career otherwise

799
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 3: has been underneath the league average as a three point shooter.

800
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 5: But he's got them. He's got the branding of a

801
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 5: three and D guy. Yeah, and a tough guy.

802
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 2: He had some big ones too, right, and so those

803
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 2: kind of I think resonate. They stick out, like he

804
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 2: hit the game winner with John Morant passing it to him.

805
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 4: But if we ever heard Jay Crowder in any sort

806
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 4: of like locker room you know, chaos or you know,

807
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 4: at tension with teammates, he does.

808
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 3: The only on court beefs that can remember are with

809
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,439
Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler. Those guys like butt heads all the time.

810
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 1: Well, well, now the team mates, that's brotherhood.

811
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 5: That's Marquet brotherhood beefs right there.

812
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how you can't be high on

813
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: the heat what they did here because you said it

814
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: their test they got, they got the best player here.

815
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 1: We don't know what Idol has left in the tank,

816
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: but if he's you know, if he's pretty damn close

817
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: to what he was still doing with the Warriors in

818
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: playoff series, that's damn good as a wing defender and

819
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: a guy that can hit big shots and help them

820
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 1: try and win you know, tight close games in tight series.

821
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: That's huge. They get rid of guys that they weren't

822
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: even playing, is the other part. I mean two guys

823
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: that they had suspended earlier in the year in Waiders

824
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: and James Johnson and then Justin Swinsle. Okay, we all

825
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 1: like him. He's still young and we'll get to him

826
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: with the Grizzlies that fit going forward. But the guy

827
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: just can't stay healthy. So they're not really losing anything,

828
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: especially with all these other gems they've found and the

829
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: minutes they're giving these guys at the wing possession.

830
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 6: And then on top of all that, they haven't killed

831
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 6: their books like they've they've actually improved their cap space

832
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 6: moving forward, and they're not even like locked into for

833
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,240
Speaker 6: the the you know, the magical twenty twenty one season

834
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 6: or summer where the big big dogs are available on

835
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 6: the free agency market.

836
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: You know, they couldn't move on from Meggodhlo. They don't

837
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: have to pick up that second option, and cause you

838
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: very very little, there are moves to be made. So

839
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: I mean, they knock this one out of the park,

840
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: I think, just in terms of what they had to

841
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: give up to really help their chances of going farther

842
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: in the playoffs and not killing their future.

843
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 2: Yeah. I guess the only bad thing is if Andre

844
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 2: Gadell has nothing left and they extended him for fifteen

845
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 2: million dollars next year. It's a it's really only a

846
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 2: one year extension because the second one's team option, I guess.

847
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 1: But I still think you could move off them if

848
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: you had to. And someone's always going to convince himself that,

849
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: oh no, no, he's still got a little little something

850
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: in his life.

851
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 5: The same thing next year.

852
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, but and he really could help here even this year,

853
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: Like you know, you could give him minutes on a

854
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 1: Yannis or a Siakam or any of the Celtics wing

855
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: guys like he's in any of these series, He's going

856
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: to see time on those guys and use obviously his

857
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: smarts and is still expertise defensively to try and slow

858
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: them down. So yeah, it's a nice move here from

859
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: the heat. Good great for me. I'm giving him an

860
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: a as well.

861
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 2: You know, they're a tough, tough ass team, as we

862
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 2: talked about all the times they're going to have their

863
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,240
Speaker 2: their Yannis rules or their Siakam rules, like the Jimmy

864
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 2: him Igodella and Bamana Bayo. It's it's a you know,

865
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 2: a little fearsome trio to throw at Yannis. But I

866
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 2: think in a series, I would still take the bucks

867
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 2: because I think it's all about Yani's just growing up

868
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 2: and being better than then those guys. But uh, East,

869
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference just got a little more interesting, that's

870
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 2: for sure.

871
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: I would feel differently about it too. If they had

872
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: to have given up a Derek Jones junior who's actually

873
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: played really well, especially their two three zone defense. He's

874
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: he's gotten a lot better defensively, or like obviously one

875
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: of their rookies, or like a Duncan Robinson, like to

876
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: not have to give up any of these guys. It's

877
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: a pretty damn impressive. They just had so many, so

878
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: many damn dudes.

879
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 4: Well, they couldn't. They couldn't try Dan White as sailer

880
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 4: in the season. No one wanted him. Now they just

881
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 4: actually get away from his contract, right, that's right.

882
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: Okay, so we're high on the heat there. What about

883
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: the Grizzlies getting Winslow and getting Waiters and Gorgia jeg

884
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 1: what's the what's the great or what do you think?

885
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 2: I think they did great. I go a minus that

886
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 2: they they got Andrea Gadala with a draft pick last year.

887
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,959
Speaker 2: Then they flipped that Andrea Gudala for Justice Winslow, who

888
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 2: is Yeah, he's injured, but I it was awesome. They

889
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 2: took Andrea Igodolla for a flyer, and they they kind

890
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 2: of killed their cast base with the Dion Waiders and

891
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 2: Gorge Jang. True for this offseason, but sometimes it's good

892
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 2: to do that. I think it's good. You know, now

893
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 2: they can't shoot themselves in the in the foot in

894
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 2: twenty twenty and overpay a guy. They're to have just

895
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 2: young guys going forward, and then those all come off

896
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 2: the books in twenty twenty one. I think that's fine.

897
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 2: I think that's okay, because you could screw it's just

898
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 2: one more year. You could screw yourself and really sign

899
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 2: somebody to a three year deal, which would be a

900
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 2: lot worse. And there isn't a lot of talent out there.

901
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 2: Their team is looking good, and to add another j

902
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 2: to to all these dudes, I'm I'm you know, excited

903
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 2: for Justice Winslow to get a new start for him,

904
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:28,800
Speaker 2: but I'm just excited for that roster to to grow together.

905
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,479
Speaker 2: And they like playing with each other, and they're about

906
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 2: five hundred. I mean, it's a it's a it's a

907
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 2: great store, one of the better stories of the NBA.

908
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're not in win now mode as far as

909
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 4: championship contention right now. They've got a little bit of

910
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 4: time here to try to build things.

911
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:42,479
Speaker 1: Don't tell them that to their fans.

912
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, but they guys, you know, like Dion and Waders.

913
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 4: They're apparently going to wave Dan Waiters and Gorgi Jing.

914
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,479
Speaker 4: I mean they might be able to flip those guys

915
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 4: as well for some sort of asset next season. So yeah,

916
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,760
Speaker 4: the Grizzlies have got themselves in a pretty good spot

917
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 4: considering where they were a season ago. They've they've got

918
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 4: the star potential, they've got some good young play is

919
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 4: now it's just a matter of how everyone sort of

920
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 4: fits in around them and if they can just get

921
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 4: those extra couple of bits who can come and contribute,

922
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,479
Speaker 4: and you know, you have to feel pretty confident about

923
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 4: them right now. So I like it. I give the

924
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 4: Grizzlies an eight.

925
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good. I mean, hopefully Justice wins Loo can play.

926
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 3: That changes everything because otherwise you just did some nice

927
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 3: financial maneuvering here to get a pick for Andrea Goudala.

928
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 3: But if you get the pick, and if you get

929
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 3: Justice Winslow to'll be on the court. Addressing a position

930
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 3: of need for the Grizzlies, we know that they've got

931
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 3: their big men settled. We know that they got their

932
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 3: point guard settled. They just inked Dylan Brooks to an extension.

933
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 5: You need a wing defender basically, and that's exactly what

934
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 5: Justice Winslow could be.

935
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 3: Could help with the playmaking as well. The hope is

936
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 3: just that he is able to get his health right

937
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 3: and stay on the court, because if that's the case,

938
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 3: this is an a plus for taking a flyer on

939
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 3: a guy and turning it into two assets, that's huge.

940
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 3: And if it's just the one, if you just got

941
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 3: the one pick from Andrea Goodall and then a whole

942
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 3: bunch of financial stuff, then you're getting down to a

943
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 3: B plus. But still well done, my friends.

944
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: The only thing you'll say about this me you know,

945
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: I pause for concern. It's similar to last year. I

946
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: remember Jay Crowder, You're right, has uh. He's not been

947
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,879
Speaker 1: lighting it up from three by any means, not even

948
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: from the field, but I think he's been helping these

949
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: these young guys. So when he's out there, he's contributing

950
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 1: still even though he's not lighting it up from distance.

951
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 1: And I wonder removing him from the equation. Is it

952
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: a little similar to when the Kings traded Shumpert away

953
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: last year around the deadline and part of their sort

954
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 1: of three team deal, And it was like, yeah, Trumpeter

955
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 1: is he's not their star player, but he's just sort

956
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: of a for whatever reason, he's just maybe seems to

957
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: like be like a locker room sort of gel type

958
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: of guy, especially with the young kids and trying to

959
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 1: help them learn this league and learn how to win.

960
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: I just I hope that isn't the case, because I

961
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: really liked Crowder with that bunch. I like that sort

962
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: of that second GrITT and grind version coming up with

963
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: him sort of as a tutor there, so to speak.

964
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 1: So that's only my only concern. But I'm just you know, look,

965
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: Justice Winslow always been a fan of his, especially when

966
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: since he came on our show during Summer League. Great

967
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: guy rooting for him. I'd love to see him healthy.

968
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: And when he is healthy, I mean, yeah, a dominant

969
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: defender at the very least, so Grizzlies they make out well.

970
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 2: And then as for the Wolves, the scales of justice

971
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 2: is what we play with.

972
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: Justice, that's right, the Honorable Justice Winslow. That's for the

973
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: Wolves getting James Johnson blood Sport.

974
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, let him toughen up Karl Anthony Towns.

975
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: I guess so.

976
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 5: I think that's basically it.

977
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 3: We got a tough guy vet and he's gonna get

978
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 3: our team to be tougher.

979
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 5: That's it.

980
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 3: Something that the Wolves need. You're not getting it from

981
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 3: Dangelo Russell. You're not getting it from Karl Anthony Towns.

982
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 3: Let the black Belt get in there and throw some

983
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:34,240
Speaker 3: kicks around.

984
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,720
Speaker 1: So if you're looking for our insight on the huge

985
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: fourteen twelve player deal that landed Covington and Houston and

986
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 1: Capella and Atlanta. Check out Wednesday's Daily Show podcast. Also

987
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 1: we touched on the minor Hawks Kings deal that brought

988
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: Deadman back to atl and the Sixers acquiring some shooting

989
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 1: from the Warriors on This Mornings on Thursday's Daily podcast.

990
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: So if you really really got to hear our takes

991
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 1: on those trades, go listen to Wednesday and Thursday's Daily Show.

992
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: The other very minor trade deadline day deals from today, guys,

993
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: I'll run through them, you know, stop me if you've

994
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: you've got something to say about them. The Magic acquired

995
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: James Ennis from the Sixers for a second round pick.

996
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: The Nuggets acquired Jordan McCrae from the Grizzlies for Shabba's Napier.

997
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: The Rockets acquired Bruno Caboglo from the Grizzlies for Jordan Bell.

998
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: The Hawks acquired Derek Walton Junior from the Clippers for cash,

999
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:24,280
Speaker 1: though was he already waived.

1000
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 2: Oh they got their Initial report was that the Hawks

1001
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 2: were sending back cash to the Clippers, but then it

1002
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 2: was corrected cash was coming with Derek Walton Jr. They

1003
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 2: not only do that, Hawks get a player who I

1004
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 2: believe they're waving, but they got some cash.

1005
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 1: Okay, literally was just a cash trade.

1006
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 2: Then exchanging exchanging dollars.

1007
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: And then the Hawks also acquired Scalabcia and two million

1008
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: dollars cash I think from the Blazers for a future

1009
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: heavily protected second round pick. I think it's top fifty

1010
00:44:58,200 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: five protected.

1011
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 4: He's seen that a few times, so we'd I will

1012
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 4: say one thing on Scale in some limited minister in Portland.

1013
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 4: I thought he was actually decent. I thought he's athletic,

1014
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 4: he's good at both ends of the floor. I mean,

1015
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 4: he's not going to change a franchise around, but I

1016
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 4: think he's He's a player with still some potential there.

1017
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: How many centers do the Hawks?

1018
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 4: And I know, I know they've got a lot. They've

1019
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 4: got Dwayne Deadman now and obviously well.

1020
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 3: I've got a full starting five of centers right now,

1021
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 3: dead Men, Bruno, Fernando Scale and Damian Jones.

1022
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 4: I can't wait for the Rockets and the Hawks to

1023
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 4: match up. Then again, oh god's us old sentence.

1024
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 1: It's like the skills challenge versus So yeah, those were

1025
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: the minor deals there.

1026
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 2: I'm a little confused why the Sixers traded James Eddis

1027
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 2: if they need shooting and they just need shooting, well,

1028
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 2: I think he's a shooter.

1029
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 1: I mean I addressed it on This Mornings podcast when

1030
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,240
Speaker 1: we were just talking about their moves getting Glenn Robinson

1031
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: the third and now like Burst, It's like there's just

1032
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: too many guys. They have way too many guys at

1033
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: the two and three. Now there's like seven guys. When

1034
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,280
Speaker 1: you add them all up, someone ain't gonna be playing.

1035
00:45:58,280 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: So yeah, I guess they just decided, well they had

1036
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: to move two spots. Yeah, which I also said was

1037
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: probably gonna happen. We thought maybe Bolden would also be

1038
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 1: in the mix, but instead they did this. That was

1039
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: I guess they wanted to keep doing them.

1040
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 3: They said too confusing, can't have Alec Burke's and Trey

1041
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 3: Burke The Jazz tried it and nobody could ever get

1042
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 3: it straight right.

1043
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 2: Uh.

1044
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: The other surprises from things that didn't happen today, Kyle

1045
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: Kuzma survives to play another Lakers possession, so he is

1046
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: still with LA and Lebron Okc didn't do anything. You know,

1047
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: Gallinari was involved heavily in these rumors of him maybe

1048
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: going to Miami as part of a three team deal.

1049
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: But he's still in Okay. See, so is Dennis Shrewder,

1050
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: so is Steven Adams. Mannix. Chris Mannick says the Celtics

1051
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,720
Speaker 1: made several strong offers to the Washington Wizards for Davis

1052
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: Burton's but the Wizards wouldn't budge. They want to sign

1053
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: that guy. Maybe in the off season. They like what

1054
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: they got from him, and.

1055
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 3: A tradition like none on there is hearing all the

1056
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 3: great deals that the Celtics offered.

1057
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 5: I just couldn't get it done.

1058
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: And then Tristan Thompson, Yeah, he is still in Cleveland.

1059
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 1: And I mean when the drum And trade happened, everyone

1060
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: started going, well, he's gonna be bought out, right, I mean,

1061
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: why would they have Tristan Thompson and Andre Drummond. But

1062
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: reports are they're not going to do that, so he

1063
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: might be playing out the rest of the year with Cleveland.

1064
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 1: Anything else I missed in terms of you know, Drew

1065
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: Holliday didn't go anywhere.

1066
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 4: Well, the Gallinari one was interesting because apparently he wanted

1067
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 4: three years extended to his contract and couldn't come to

1068
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 4: terms with the hate, so he was prepared to go.

1069
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 4: But uh, you know, three years is a bit of

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Speaker 4: an ask, you know, scared scoring twenty points per game?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not a bad deadline, right in terms.

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Speaker 2: Of what about Bruno. Nobody cares about Bruno. No, no, no,

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Speaker 2: But I am enthralled the guy who was two years

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Speaker 2: away from being two years away. It's like nine years now,

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Speaker 2: all right, He's got to be good. I think, you know,

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Speaker 2: we talked to John Hollid earlier in the season. He

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Speaker 2: signed Brunoko Vocalo in Memphis, and we asked him if

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Speaker 2: he could potentially be a center in this league, and

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Speaker 2: he said, yeah, there's that's I think where his his

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Speaker 2: minutes life. And that's where they're gonna lie with the

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Speaker 2: Houston Rockets, and they, like, you know, they're playing the

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Speaker 2: small ball. Brunoko Bocala could be that guy that It's

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Speaker 2: an annual tradition with them to try out these guys

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Speaker 2: that don't work out. Marcy's Chris Joe Chee.

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Speaker 5: Wow, nice one. Nice poul On Jochi.

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Speaker 2: Right there, Brandon Wright, Kenneth for Reid last year at

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Speaker 2: the center spot. It may not work, but they it's

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Speaker 2: going to be an interesting it's a it's just a

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Speaker 2: testing ground in Houston. It's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 1: I did love the the the flow of deadline deals

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Speaker 1: over the last couple of days. I like that we

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Speaker 1: got started with the big twelve player deal a couple

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Speaker 1: of days out from the actual deadline, and then it

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Speaker 1: was nice timing there with the Igodala and all that,

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Speaker 1: and then today there was a flurry. I mean, but

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Speaker 1: it was even one of those ones, like it was

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Speaker 1: like every fifteen minutes or twenty minutes, it felt like

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Speaker 1: there was a new trade. So you could always sort

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Speaker 1: of wrap your head around the breaking news trying to

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Speaker 1: make sense of it, and then there would be another one.

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Speaker 1: Didn't all just come at once, because we've met, We've

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Speaker 1: had years before where it's like suddenly just opened the flood.

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Speaker 3: It's like there was like that year thirteen point guards

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Speaker 3: got traded for each other at like two fifty nine

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Speaker 3: pm Eastern or.

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Speaker 5: Something like that.

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Speaker 2: Luke Ridnor or that dra was in the.

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Speaker 7: Mix, whoever got I can picture the graphic yelling at

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Speaker 7: us definitely all right, so that right now or our

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Speaker 7: trade deadline grades for the big deals here from Thursday's

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Speaker 7: NBA trade deadline.

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Speaker 1: Let's hear from you guys. Agreed, disagree, Well, how do

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Speaker 1: you agrade them? Let us know on Twitter hashtag no

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Speaker 1: Dunks at No Dunks Inc. We will be back on

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Speaker 1: Friday morning. I'm sure we'll have a little sort of

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Speaker 1: follow up from the trade deadline here, maybe winners or losers,

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Speaker 1: just sort of a sort of a big picture type

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Speaker 1: look at it. We also got the All Star Draft

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Speaker 1: happening now basically while being aired, I guess I should say,

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Speaker 1: in like a half an hour on television, so maybe

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about that. We got some good games on

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Speaker 1: as well, So we'll see you with the Friday Drop

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Speaker 1: Podcast tomorrow. You heard it here first, have a great time,

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Speaker 1: turn up, Love you guys awesome.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, and remember this podcast could be

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Speaker 2: traded for a bag of premium beams.

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Speaker 1: Embrace the night people.

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Speaker 2: You could stay boom every day and dad you happy

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Speaker 2: every minute. It's been so long that your no wanna

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Speaker 2: wait for It's happened already. It's gonna be good.