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Speaker 2: Welcome to Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here with

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Speaker 2: Carmen Vitale. Thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon with

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Speaker 2: Carme and me.

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Speaker 3: We are back.

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Speaker 2: It's been a couple of weeks, just in time for

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Speaker 2: Round two of the NBA Playoffs. We'll dive into the

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Speaker 2: big stories and shocks out of the East and West

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Speaker 2: in just a moment. Boston right now at MSG trying

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Speaker 2: not to go down three games to the next currently

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Speaker 2: leading twenty four or twelve. So this is a big

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Speaker 2: This is going to be a big swing game, like

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Speaker 2: for both teams. Like Nicks need this if they want

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Speaker 2: to still believe. I think that they have a chance

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Speaker 2: to go up three. Boston needs us to get back

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Speaker 2: in it. It's yeah, big difference two to one or

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Speaker 2: three to zero in a series.

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Speaker 3: We'll dive into that in just a second.

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Speaker 2: Also in the NFL, congrats on a great career Derek

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Speaker 2: Carr announcing his retirement this morning. We got some new

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Speaker 2: Sunday morning right here on Fox Sports Radio and iHeartRadio app. Now,

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Speaker 2: we've got a great show for you guys today. We've

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Speaker 2: got NBA insider Mark Medina joining us in about thirty

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Speaker 2: minutes to break down these NBA playoffs. We had the

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Speaker 2: host of NFL and Fox Podcast, Dave Hellman in hour two.

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Speaker 2: He was a Cowboys insider for ten years.

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Speaker 1: Worked for the cow the cow for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: But that's a Cowboys insider.

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Speaker 1: Well, you're not allowed to say a lot when you

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Speaker 1: work for the team.

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Speaker 2: So that's why I like, Okay, okay, I'm like he

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Speaker 2: was like a Cowboys, Like he was the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Someone recovered a team for that team. You can't, oh,

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Speaker 1: I can't say a lot all the night. I was

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Speaker 1: given a lot more freedom than I was when he

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Speaker 1: was with the cow Boys, but I still he's one

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Speaker 1: of the best Cowboys analysts I feel like on on

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Speaker 1: Twitter for sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I like to say, because I've also been a

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Speaker 3: team reporter for a couple.

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Speaker 2: Different franchises, you are not a journalist when you were

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Speaker 2: working for the team. You are a team partner, and

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Speaker 2: with that comes may we talk about this?

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Speaker 3: May we talk about that?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 3: When am I allowed to talk about this because the

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Speaker 3: story broke like two hours ago, But because you haven't

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Speaker 3: announced it yet, I can't.

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Speaker 1: I can't talk about it.

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Speaker 3: Oh cool, cool, go cool, good dunder.

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Speaker 1: The best example that I can give of that was

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Speaker 1: that I had to sit on the Tom Brady news

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Speaker 1: traded for or like the trade warm they signed him.

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Speaker 1: And I also knew way before even like Schefter reported

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Speaker 1: I couldn't say it then, but then Schefter reported it

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Speaker 1: on a Wednesday, I believe it was, and I couldn't

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Speaker 1: talk about it until that Friday. I was like, are

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Similar, Like my closest was probably when the Angels got

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Speaker 2: it yet until it was publicly announced. It's just it's

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Speaker 2: a wild, weird like honestly, like, wouldn't trade it for

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Speaker 3: But when you're a team reporter.

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Speaker 1: You trade autonomy for access.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's insane. Like you're on the team charter, you're

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Speaker 2: we've both been a part of teams who have won championships,

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Speaker 2: you with the Bucks, me with Ellie King's and it's

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Speaker 2: just it's it's a different kind of it's a different

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Speaker 1: A team reporter, which is Yeah, although I wish that

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Speaker 1: But yeah, if it wasn't COVID, though, the Bucks would

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Speaker 2: Which was iconic, which was tossing the trophy like Brady

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Speaker 1: Was those stories are not fit for air. Let me

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Speaker 1: tell you and your bruises. I did share my I know, infamously.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we've we've gotten some inside story.

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Speaker 1: I did it before Howie Roseman, let's just put it

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Speaker 1: that way. Yeah, I got hit by a championship. So

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Speaker 1: much fun. We're gonna have a great day today.

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Speaker 2: But let's start in the NBA because Round two of

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Speaker 3: But road teams have been dominating this round.

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Speaker 2: We like because we said the East was looking like

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Speaker 1: On through and the Celtics seemed like the course for

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Speaker 1: the Eastern finals. Wow, I've had something to say about that.

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Speaker 2: Let's start in the East. Since the Boston Knicks game

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Speaker 3: The Celtics choked in both games. Boston blew twenty.

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Speaker 2: Point leads in both those games at home, and this

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Speaker 2: is the defending champion.

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Speaker 3: Bostic's Boston Celtics, you guys, the.

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Speaker 2: Favorite to come out of the East and get back

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Speaker 3: Boston seventy five threes in the first two games.

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Speaker 2: They were shooting twenty five percent from three, which is

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Speaker 2: like that was like their one game plan down the stretch.

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Speaker 2: And the Knicks just had the never quit attitude. They

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Speaker 2: Huge shout out to our coworker Paul Pierce, who made

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Speaker 2: a very silly bet which I'm sure everyone saw trending

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Speaker 1: This is why you say, though, this is why everyone

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Speaker 1: says that the playoffs are a completely different season for

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Speaker 1: far we have not seen this Knicks team able to

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Speaker 1: That's changed with their defense. It's changed with like you mentioned,

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Speaker 3: Most important part of the game.

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Speaker 1: However, my biggest question now is this game in particular,

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Speaker 1: But the experience that they have from winning the championship

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Speaker 3: They're not worried if they being down two, however, favored

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Speaker 1: had the highest variance I think of any team in

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Speaker 2: this series, it was like a lot of Knicks fans.

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Speaker 2: They're playing the defending champs, they're playing Boston. We probably

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Speaker 2: can do it, let me prove you wrong. Let me

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Speaker 2: go into your house in Boston instead.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, making a statement in the gardens that is importane.

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Speaker 2: That was insane. So this game is big at MSG.

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Speaker 2: Boston has been controlling Game three so far, they're up

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Speaker 2: thirty two to eighteen. Right now, brazingis just making another

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Speaker 2: free throw thirty three eighteen. But it's it's just, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Start to talk about in the East because we haven't

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Speaker 1: had something to talk about. Like everything was so predictable,

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Speaker 1: it was so down to the playoff seeding into like

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Speaker 1: the first round of the playoffs too. I mean the

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Speaker 1: longest series was Nix Pistons and it was Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: went six games.

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Speaker 3: It was great.

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Speaker 1: So we didn't we didn't get a game seven in

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Speaker 1: uh for that change.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I hope this, Yeah, I hope this series continues on

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Speaker 2: because this is this is a fun one to watch now.

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Speaker 3: The other series in the East, cas were down two.

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Speaker 4: Oh uh.

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Speaker 3: They were the number one seed most of the season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's Tyres Haliburton. You have heard from you, but

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Speaker 1: Let's get to thunder Nuggets.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Gordon has been the hero for the Nuggets both

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Speaker 2: Oh No, that was that was experience last night. Experience

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Speaker 2: I know you, I think you wrote about it this week.

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Speaker 2: Do you see Tyler Shuck as the future of the

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Speaker 2: Saints at the quarterback position?

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Speaker 1: What I wrote abod was which teams could be in

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Speaker 1: the market to be drafting a quarterback high next year

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Speaker 1: because the quarterback class next year is thought to be

447
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Speaker 1: much deeper, much better with the manage, we'll see the

448
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Speaker 1: guys only had a couple of starts.

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Speaker 3: So anyone wants to talk about though, Wait.

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Speaker 1: The thing about the Saints and so, like I wrote

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Speaker 1: about this, this is before the Derek Carr news came

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Speaker 1: out that he was retiring. But obviously the Saints knew

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Speaker 1: enough that the situation was volatile enough that they wanted

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Speaker 1: to go out and draft a guy in this in

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Speaker 1: Tyler Schuck to see if all right, Like as an

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Speaker 1: insurance policy essentially, And that's what I said in the

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Speaker 1: article too, was like, this is an insurance policy in

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Speaker 1: case Derek Carr can't in fact go this season. And

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Speaker 1: now that we know that he's retiring. I think that

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Speaker 1: it's it's all the more realistic and the Saints kind

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Speaker 1: of shoot to the top of the teams that are

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Speaker 1: going to be in the market for a quarterback next

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Speaker 1: year because it was so funny. I saw a bunch

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Speaker 1: of people, a bunch of kind of like the insiders

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Speaker 1: on social media talk about how Tyler Shuk was considered

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Speaker 1: the most pro ready of the quarterback prospects this year.

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Speaker 1: It's a nice way of saying, the kid is twenty

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Speaker 1: five to six.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's played a lot, yea, Yeah, he's.

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Speaker 3: Older, and not a compliment.

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Speaker 1: It's at the it's not a compliment because he has

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Speaker 1: played so many games and so you know where his

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Speaker 1: ceiling lies, and his ceiling is not all that high

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Speaker 1: right now. You know what you're getting here. So that's

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Speaker 1: my concern. That was my concern with Tyler Shook. That's

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Speaker 1: why he wasn't a first round pick. Truly was the

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Speaker 1: most pro ready. He would have had a higher ceiling,

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Speaker 1: he would have been drafted in the first round, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and he wasn't. So that's why I think that he's

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Speaker 1: a good enough bridge right now between him. You see,

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Speaker 1: he'll compete with Spencer Ratler still for that starting job.

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Speaker 3: But to put your money on Chuck Rattler, who do

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Speaker 3: you think is starting?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I honestly don't know, because you have

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Speaker 1: to see if Spencer Rattler is taking another step forward.

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Speaker 1: You already know what Tyler Shook essentially is, like I said,

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Speaker 1: he's played a lot of football for multiple different glasses

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Speaker 1: and he I just it wasn't It was just funny

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Speaker 1: because I just want to go to such a backhanded

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Speaker 1: compliment to Tyler Shook. The Saints are Here's the big

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Speaker 1: thing about the Saints is they're consistently in cap hell

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Speaker 1: every single year.

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Speaker 2: So they need to get help though with car gone right,

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Speaker 2: because they get like ten million, Yes, but.

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Speaker 1: They save some money, but it's not enough to really

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Speaker 1: make a difference when you have so many expensive veterans

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Speaker 1: on your team. The Saints need to get younger and

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Speaker 1: the easiest. And this is the reason why I also

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Speaker 1: talked about them drafting a quarterback next year, is because

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Speaker 1: you need to get younger, but you need to save money,

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Speaker 1: and the best way to do that is to have

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Speaker 1: a quarterback on a rookie contract. Yes, now, will Mickey

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Speaker 1: Loomis actually do that I have my doubts because of

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Speaker 1: the way that the Saints have behaved in prior years.

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Speaker 1: There's a reason they're always in cap pill and that's

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Speaker 1: not something that they're really even they're not. They don't

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Speaker 1: readily admit that either, which is kind of crazy because

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Speaker 1: like they just make it underneath the cap every single year,

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Speaker 1: and it takes a lot of creative accounting in order

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Speaker 1: to do so. They hold on the guys past their prime,

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Speaker 1: they hold on with with really big contracts. So this

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Speaker 1: is a team that, like this could be the start

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Speaker 1: if the Saints are smart rebuild okay, and it should

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Speaker 1: it should be. It should be. Will they actually do it?

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Speaker 1: That's my biggest question with this with an Orleans Saints.

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Speaker 1: They should.

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Speaker 2: With this Derek Carr retirement, it's forcing their hands and

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Speaker 2: they need to.

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Speaker 3: Now let's check in with Martin Wise and see what's trending.

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Speaker 5: Narrator.

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Speaker 1: They will not, thanks Martin, get it, and they will not.

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Speaker 5: As a Saints fan today, and I hope Derek Carr

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Speaker 5: finds I am that's your team born and raised. I

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Speaker 5: hope that Derek Carr finds his piece, and I hope

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Speaker 5: his shoulder recovers Happley, but there I don't think there's

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Speaker 5: many people who are crying today that Derek be quarterback

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Speaker 5: in the Saints next year.

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Speaker 2: And it was not the future.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Tyler Shuck was the if.

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Speaker 5: Dylan gaber was the canary in the coal mine, and

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Speaker 5: I don't know what the comes before that, but Tyler

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Speaker 5: Shuck when he got drafted was the first like it's

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Speaker 5: something funny going on with Shador Sanders. That was the

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Speaker 5: first moment. Then when Dylan Gaberg, Oh, something definitely is something.

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Speaker 5: So I just said to say, it's awesome.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, looking forward to it.

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Speaker 1: I love football.

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Speaker 3: Do you think he's going to be Game one starter? Chuck?

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Speaker 1: I don't care that. I was gonna say that's only

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Speaker 1: Sts fans. That's I have no confidence at all. If

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Speaker 1: I'm a Saints fan, I have no confidence at all

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Speaker 1: this year.

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Speaker 5: Like Spencer Rattler when I went to see him at

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Speaker 5: the Senior Bowl last year and immediately felt bad for

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Speaker 5: him because I'm like, wow, he got drafted in the Orland.

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Speaker 5: His kid's got no shot. Yeah, terrible Organization's been good

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Speaker 5: once once and you know what it took. Chempaygne and

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Speaker 5: Drew Brees that's it and and fifty something you know

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Speaker 5: what with some of the left in the first half.

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Speaker 5: The Celtics have a forty seven to thirty lead over

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Speaker 5: the Knicks. The Knicks, though leading the series two games

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Speaker 5: to none. Right now the Celtics, it's kind of an

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Speaker 5: all around thing. Jason Tatum was six points alt hover

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Speaker 5: with five, Derek White with with seven here and Peyton

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Speaker 5: Pritchard go figure leading them with ten right now and

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Speaker 5: on the Nick side of the Carloty Towns with nine

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Speaker 5: and Jalen Brunton with six and three assists. In Major

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Speaker 5: League Baseball, bottom of the second, Indian Atlanta has a

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Speaker 5: one to zero lead over Pittsburgh. Going to the bottom

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Speaker 5: of the second, the Cardinals have opened up a four

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Speaker 5: to nothing lead over the Nationals. Bottom of the second,

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Speaker 5: scoreless between the Yankees and the A's and the Brewers

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Speaker 5: and the Rays and a rain delay waiting for that

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Speaker 5: when it gets still in the Arrange Atlanta the top

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Speaker 5: of the first inning. And as you guys were just

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Speaker 5: talking about, oh White skirt one second, nine minutes, forty

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Speaker 5: five seconds into the fourth quarter of WNBA preseason, Kaitlin

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Speaker 5: Clark on the floor right now the Indiana Fever with

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Speaker 5: a sixty three to fifty seven lead over the Atlanta Dream.

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Speaker 5: And as you guys were talking talking about their cards

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Speaker 5: and ELS's retirement eleven year pro, four time pro bowler,

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Speaker 5: zero playoff wins.

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Speaker 2: I love that's nice little dig Martin.

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Speaker 3: Right at the end there, I just tell the truth.

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Speaker 2: Are you're Lusine and Fox Sports Saturday, Alex Career with

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Speaker 2: the Carmen Vitally, it's time for our first guest, NBA

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Speaker 2: insider Mark Medina.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for joining the show.

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Speaker 4: Alex Carmen, Thanks for having me. My voice is a

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Speaker 4: little raspy because over all these amazing NBA Playoffs games.

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Speaker 3: Hello, I love a good raspy voice.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with the game happening right now though, because

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Speaker 2: the Celtics surprisingly found themselves down to two after losing

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Speaker 2: both games.

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Speaker 3: Out they're up now at MSG.

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Speaker 2: How confident are you that they can pull themselves out

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Speaker 2: of this hole and make this a competitive series?

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Speaker 4: Wellow, we'll wait and see, because they're up nineteen. You know,

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Speaker 4: in game one and two they're up the morning they

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Speaker 4: still lost the games, So no way to say the

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Speaker 4: Knicks are going to be resilient. They're a grinded out team.

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Speaker 4: Jalen Brunson one of the most clutch players in the NBA.

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Speaker 4: But it is a good start. I think that. You know,

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Speaker 4: even though Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown aren't necessarily shooting

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Speaker 4: the ball the best, they're still impacting the game and

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Speaker 4: everyone else has been elevating their game so they can

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Speaker 4: tap in to their roster death. I mean, obviously a

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Speaker 4: lot of attention is on Tatum and Brable. One of

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Speaker 4: the reasons why they had been one of the best

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Speaker 4: teams in the East this season is because they have

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Speaker 4: depth from top to bottom. So so far, so good,

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Speaker 4: But there's a whole second half of basketball than could If.

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Speaker 1: The series does go down to like a Game seven,

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Speaker 1: who do you trust more mark between.

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Speaker 4: The Celtics and the next Yeah, well, going in, I

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Speaker 4: thought it would be the Celtics. Here's for a few reasons.

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Speaker 4: One the regular season matchups and Celtics easily beat the

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Speaker 4: next in both times. I felt like if some of

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Speaker 4: the struggles during the regular season had to do with

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Speaker 4: just the championship haang over not, you know, feeling some

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Speaker 4: complacency and all that here went down to Game seven,

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Speaker 4: I would say it was still would be the Celics

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Speaker 4: because of the home court. It would show they raise

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Speaker 4: their level play. But right now I think the Knicks

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Speaker 4: are going to take the series because they're playing better.

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Speaker 6: Round well hear me out, Okay, yeah, I mean they

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Speaker 6: might work game three.

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Speaker 4: You know, team has ever overcome a three zero deficit.

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Speaker 4: The Knicks have shown that they're the real deal. The Celtics,

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Speaker 4: they haven't had any good shooting performances yet. Yeah, from

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Speaker 4: Jason Tatum, Jay and Brown and chrisof Forzingis. Even though

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Speaker 4: he's playing, he's been dealing with an illness that's been

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Speaker 4: limited as play. So there's a lot of question marks

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Speaker 4: that sellers have to address.

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Speaker 3: Hot take. Okay, let's move to the other E series.

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Speaker 2: The Cowns are finally able to get a win, and

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Speaker 2: you back into this series against Pacers last night. What

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Speaker 2: has stood out to you most about this matchup?

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Speaker 4: Well, there's a few things. One Game one and two,

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Speaker 4: Tyrese Haliburn has been a clutch player, what then jumped out?

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Speaker 4: Game three was a complete no show, and so he

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Speaker 4: has to play better. And I think it also feeds

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Speaker 4: into all this talk about him being overrated because of that.

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Speaker 4: Anonymous players poll. You know, talking to his trainers who

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Speaker 4: handling over this week, you know he downplayed that, but

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Speaker 4: he's also told Tyree's time and time again, you've got

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Speaker 4: to be aggressive. You're at your best when you're aggressive.

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Speaker 4: We didn't see that in game three. I think with

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Speaker 4: Cleveland they obviously elevated their play because you know, no

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Speaker 4: team again has come back from a three to zero deficit.

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Speaker 4: Give credit to Darius Garwin for playing through some pain.

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00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 4: Same thing with DeAndre Hunter with his own injury. But

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Speaker 4: also Donovan Mitchell has really raised his level game. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you've seen in the past in his career in the

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Speaker 4: playoffs where he's not always at his best. Every single

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Speaker 4: game here in the playoffs, he has been the best

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Speaker 4: player on the team, best player on the floor, and

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Speaker 4: that's what the Cavs are going to need. I mean,

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Speaker 4: they have a lot of good roster depth, but to survive,

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Speaker 4: they're going to have to have him be at his

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Speaker 4: best because they're not fully healthy.

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Speaker 1: I all right, I want to go to the West now,

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Speaker 1: because it's funny that we took up that much time

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Speaker 1: with the East, given how I keep saying there was

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Speaker 1: no mystery heading into these playoffs. About the Eastern Conference.

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Speaker 1: We all thought that it was just the Cabs and

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Speaker 1: the Celtics on a crash course to the Eastern Conference finals.

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Speaker 1: But that may not be the case now, especially if

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Speaker 1: you listen to you Mark. But in the West, I

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Speaker 1: was we were talked about earlier, how the Thunder. You know,

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Speaker 1: they rolled in the first series, swept the Grizzlies, and

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Speaker 1: then they come into this series with all of the

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Speaker 1: this game last night. But then they kind of got

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Speaker 1: back on track, and I think a lot of people thought,

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Speaker 1: all right, here's the Thunder, here's the momentum. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: keep ascending while the Nuggets are going to show that

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Speaker 1: all right, there has been a lot of turmoil in

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Speaker 1: the organization. Maybe they're gonna drop off a little bit

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Speaker 1: and this may not be a sustainable pace for them.

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Speaker 1: But now the Nuggets come back last night and this

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Speaker 1: is this is a bona fide series. Who do you

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Speaker 1: think ends up coming out of this at this point?

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Speaker 4: It's very tough. I mean, I think it's going to

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Speaker 4: go seven games. I think the way that you outline

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Speaker 4: the play by play of each game. It shows that

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Speaker 4: in the playoffs the monum doesn't always carry over to

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Speaker 4: the next game. It has its own chapter. But the

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Speaker 4: thing that's been surprising me about this series so far

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Speaker 4: two things. The Thunder they've been showing some playoff inexperienced

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Speaker 4: type mistakes that are unbecoming of them, even though they're young,

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Speaker 4: because they had that playoff gauntlet last year. Number Two,

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Speaker 4: the Denver Nuggets are a completely different team the playoffs. Yes,

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Speaker 4: and maybe that's the Some might say, well, let's not surprising.

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Speaker 4: They have Nicoley, Jokichi's one MVP, they have some of

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Speaker 4: those championship core players with Jamal Murray, Michael Porter Junior,

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Speaker 4: Aaron Gordon. But in the regular season they're a completely

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Speaker 4: different team. There's a reason why just before the playoffs started,

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Speaker 4: Michael mLAN was fired as head coach. General manager was

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Speaker 4: Callum Buck was fired because they were very consistent. Number One.

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Speaker 4: Number two, their role players, we're not playing consistently, both

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Speaker 4: veterans and young guys, and some of their key players

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Speaker 4: like Jamal Murray, Michael Porter Junior or and Gordon, we're

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Speaker 4: dealing with overlapping injuries throughout the season, but in the playoffs,

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Speaker 4: all of a sudden, that flip has switched. They've leaned

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Speaker 4: on their championship equity and experience. So if I had

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Speaker 4: to make a prediction, I still would give it to

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Speaker 4: the thunder because they are the better team on paper.

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Speaker 4: But the Nuggets have shown, not necessarily that experience goes

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Speaker 4: a long way as far as the press, handling the pressure,

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Speaker 4: but the chemistry of knowing what it takes to win

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Speaker 4: a championship. You've seen them be able to lie on

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Speaker 4: bat in Game three.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that one goes seven.

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Speaker 2: But let's end with the Warriors and t wolve Steph

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Speaker 2: Curry out with a hamstring injury and reportedly won't return

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Speaker 2: until Game six at the earliest.

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Speaker 3: Can the Warriors still make a deep run without Curry?

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Speaker 4: It's obviously a lot harder, but they can do it.

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Speaker 4: The reason is because they have Jimmy Pollard. You know,

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Speaker 4: we have to have they always keep in mind he

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Speaker 4: guided the eighth seed of Miami Heat to the NBA

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Speaker 4: Finals two years ago. And I think when you look

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Speaker 4: at that roster compared to the Warriors, the Warriors a

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Speaker 4: lot better. They have Raymond Green, yeah, he needs to

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Speaker 4: tone down with technicals, but his defense is always a yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 4: But buddy, healed great secondary score. He's all from playing

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Speaker 4: defense their championship experience with Steve Kuriz head coach. So

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Speaker 4: you know, Jimmy Bower is going to have to raise

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Speaker 4: his game while still playing within a team concept. But

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Speaker 4: it's going to be tough because he doesn't have the

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Speaker 4: same gravity and open space when Steph Curry is on

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Speaker 4: the floor. But they can't do that. But we have

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Speaker 4: to keep in mind the Timberwolves have shown so far

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Speaker 4: in the Lakers series in the first round and so

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Speaker 4: far in the second round series. They're a team they

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Speaker 4: have to take seriously. Any Thatwards has taken us given

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Speaker 4: another level. The Joyce ran over to Gobert dynamic has

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Speaker 4: improved chemistry wise, They've got a lot of good role

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Speaker 4: players Mike Connolly, nasrich In McDaniels, a lot of good scores,

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Speaker 4: a lot of good defenders. So with that, I still

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Speaker 4: think the Warriors can pull this off even if step

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Speaker 4: doesn't play at all of the series or is limited

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Speaker 4: one of the games. But it's going to be very,

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Speaker 4: very challenging and it's going to go down to the

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Speaker 4: wire every single game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think tonight's going to be very telling. Mark,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much for coming on and all that insight.

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Speaker 2: We really appreciate you.

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Speaker 4: Thanks, Mark, appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: All You all right, and we come back.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here

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Speaker 2: with Carmen Vitally. We are broadcasting live.

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Speaker 1: Is this a responsible thing? I'm terminally online because these

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Speaker 1: are all TikTok songs?

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Speaker 3: Is that what the This is a jam?

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Speaker 2: Thank you Shae for like the best music coming back

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Speaker 2: from break. We have broadcasting live from the Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio studios and Last s Angeles. Thank you for spending

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Speaker 2: your Saturday afternoon with car Me andm Me. It is

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Speaker 2: time for the dos and don't you guys.

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Speaker 6: This is why I love that.

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Speaker 3: Puting a spotlight on the don't this subject brings me

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Speaker 3: no choice?

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Speaker 6: That's insane.

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Speaker 7: It's time for the dues and the dose in sports.

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Speaker 3: Okay, had a lot of good ones this week.

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Speaker 2: I mentioned this already, but do follow through with your

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Speaker 2: best shout out to our co.

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Speaker 3: Worker call up here on speak.

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Speaker 2: We made a very silly bet, which I'm sure you

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Speaker 2: saw trending all over social media this week. He said,

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Speaker 2: if Boston moves his Game two, and he guaranteed that

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Speaker 2: they wouldn't, he would walk to work in his road.

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Speaker 3: So after they lost.

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Speaker 2: He left his house around five thirty am, made the

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Speaker 2: twenty mile walk to Fox Sports studios and he was

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Speaker 2: tired and sweaty.

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Speaker 3: I can't confirm he actually walked the whole way.

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Speaker 2: We have friends and I have family that work on

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Speaker 2: that show, and people were stopping in and checking in

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Speaker 2: on him during that walk.

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Speaker 1: Entered on a wheelchair.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they rolled, They rolled him, rolled him into the desk.

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Speaker 1: That was the Madam was word. You can't argue that.

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Speaker 3: That was so beautiful. That's so beautiful, all right.

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Speaker 1: I have a don't start with it, don't don't don't

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Speaker 1: underestimate your colleagues, which actually could go for that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but no. So a dear friend of mine who played

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Speaker 1: for the Bucks on a couple of different stants Carl Nassiv.

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Speaker 1: He's since retired.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: He famously came out as the first openly gay player

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Speaker 1: in the Nation Football League while he was still playing.

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Speaker 1: He was with the last Biggest Raiders at the time,

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Speaker 1: and he told this story on The Pivot This Week

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Speaker 1: with Riot with Ryan Clark and Jamison Crowder that he

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Speaker 1: knew the league was ready for it because of a

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Speaker 1: really funny thing that happened to him when they were

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Speaker 1: playing the Browns, which was his old team at the time.

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Speaker 1: Baker was running a bunch of bootlegs. Carl was having

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Speaker 1: to chase him down from the other side. He was like,

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Speaker 1: stop running these, and he used a derogatory term that

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Speaker 1: he did, the word gay. Yeah, the entire Brown's O

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Speaker 1: line turned around and looked at him and said, you

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Speaker 1: can't take that. And he was like, oh, who, he's

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Speaker 1: ready for this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we've got some hollows here.

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Speaker 1: And so he came out a few months after that

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Speaker 1: happened and do a lot of support. He now has

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Speaker 1: a second act with nonprofit sector. He has yeah app

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Speaker 1: called Raise that connects nonprofit with businesses and people looking

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Speaker 1: to volunteer. So if you are one of those people,

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Speaker 1: go check out rays of the shout out to Carl

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Speaker 1: and all the wonderful work that him and his foundation

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Speaker 1: are gone.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh I love that so much. Yeah so much. Okay,

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Speaker 3: do show off your style.

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Speaker 2: There were so many athletes walking the Met gala carpet

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Speaker 2: on Monday night, and they serve. I love fashion and

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Speaker 2: seeing people express themselves through fashion.

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Speaker 3: That's how he kind of like describe fashion to people.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, it's all about confidence, like it is another

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Speaker 2: form of art, like wear what you want to wear.

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Speaker 2: And it was such a cool It was such a

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Speaker 2: cool evening. I think it was like the most money

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Speaker 2: that they've actually ever raised.

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Speaker 1: Four You had athletes as chairs of the Met Galley

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Speaker 1: had Louis and Reese was one of the host committee.

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Speaker 1: There were a couple of others that, yeah, like it

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Speaker 2: It was beautiful, Simobiles, Joey b Jalen Hurts, Angel Reese

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Speaker 2: all just absolutely slipper of all.

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Speaker 1: Of that was Smolle Biles husband johnthan Owens, who played

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Speaker 1: the Bears.

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Speaker 3: He actually did like friends, did he look so.

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Speaker 1: Good at Met Gala. But a couple of days before

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Speaker 1: they were at the Kentucky Derby and he was all fitted.

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Speaker 2: Is like getting ready before the met because it was tailoring.

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Speaker 2: It was like celebrating Jack Tayloring.

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Speaker 3: From like Black Dandy Harlem. Was it just was, It

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Speaker 1: It was. It was like Johnathan Owen's just coming and

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Speaker 1: serving like nobody was so cool, obviously Simon, but I

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Speaker 1: thought it was really.

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Speaker 2: He did, he did serve and he was getting all

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Speaker 2: the questions on the carpet.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he was insane. I love it.

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Speaker 1: We love a supportive king. He's like out of the

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Speaker 1: phone and he's like video and her doing all of

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Speaker 1: the stuff.

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Speaker 2: Come a long way from like when they first started

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Speaker 2: dating and didn't know who she was on the first date.

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Speaker 1: That was a little I think overblown. All right, I've

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Speaker 1: got another due Okay, and if it's you're a Knicks man,

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Speaker 1: oh do trust in the Lord because yes, the new

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Speaker 1: Pope of the like he's from Chicago. However, the total

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Speaker 1: Leo of the fourteenth graduated from Villanova and these are

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Speaker 1: the nova Knicks, so it's so facto next run. And

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Speaker 1: so what I guess what I'm saying is Nixon seven,

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Speaker 1: NI Nixon seven. They got that, They've got the line

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Speaker 1: on their side on their side.

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Speaker 3: The memes, the memes we'll get to come out. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna we're gonna get to that a little bit.

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Speaker 2: But the memes with the pope being from Chicago and

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Speaker 2: just everything I've been Oh, I've got some stuff.

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Speaker 3: Unreal, unreal.

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Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna take a quick break here when

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Speaker 2: we come back, new faces in new places in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Welcome to our two

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Speaker 2: of Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here with Carmen Vitally.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon with Carme and me.

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Speaker 2: Happy NBA Playoffs. We broke down all the big moments

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Speaker 2: and stories in the first hour, so if you miss that,

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Speaker 2: post in the links right after the show is done.

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Speaker 2: And Happy Mother's Day weekend. So this is a good

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Speaker 2: them you love them. I'm like, is this my first

877
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 2: Mother's Day because I'm pregnant. I'm like said, yeah, pregnant.

878
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, doesn't count. I'm kind of like, I think

879
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 2: maybe it does. Another fun thought I've had is and

880
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 2: again like I haven't done it yet.

881
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 3: But when I'm driving on the.

882
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 2: Freeway because I have a baby and my belly, can

883
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 2: I drive in the carpool lane?

884
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I haven't.

885
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 2: I'm like afraid about it, but like can I Like,

886
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 2: I'm I'm a.

887
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 3: Human, there's two of us in this car. Technically, I

888
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 3: don't know.

889
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: I'm not about that.

890
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 3: A couple of times I'm like, should I do it?

891
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: Maybe?

892
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 3: Okay, no, maybe not yet?

893
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: Can I say that? I since moving here, have never

894
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: actually seen a police officer on the highway, Like I

895
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 1: never see good.

896
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 2: Time, but I have my ways open at all times

897
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 2: because I'm a.

898
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 3: I'm very I like to like they've.

899
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: Just got other things to worry about. It's the same

900
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: in Chicago, Like they don't really like it's it's a

901
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: state trooper that pulls you over on the highway if

902
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: you're on the highway in Illinois and in Chicago, like

903
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: it's not like Chicago cops have way more to the os.

904
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 2: I like to pretend I'm a professional driver when I'm

905
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 2: driving on the freeway. I do consider myself a professional driver.

906
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 3: I am great. I am a very aggressive, defensive driver.

907
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 2: But like growing up in LA like you have to be,

908
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 2: and especially in the beach cities, like with the streets

909
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 2: as small as they are, you just you just become great.

910
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 3: But like I have ways.

911
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 2: Open it all times because it tells you when there's

912
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 2: a police nearby.

913
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't, I just it. I don't see them,

914
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: like I don't see them people over, I don't see

915
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: I don't see them.

916
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 3: See them all the time, all the time.

917
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: All Right.

918
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,600
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919
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,560
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926
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927
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Speaker 2: top of your screen. All Right, we're gonna kick off

928
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 2: this hour with new Faces in New Places, NFL edition,

929
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 2: and uh, the Shadoor Sanders saga continues in Cleveland. You guys,

930
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 2: I obviously haven't been in since the NFL draft.

931
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 3: That whole situation, it is what it is.

932
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 2: He was painted I think going into it as the

933
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 2: super arrogant player in his interviews, and honestly, I think

934
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 2: Sanders has had a great attitude about it. He's handled it,

935
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 2: I think as good as you can being in the spotlight.

936
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 2: He's posted videos of him. He was dancing when he

937
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 2: got drafted by the Browns. He was excited to see

938
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 2: his locker for the first time in the Browns facility.

939
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 2: And I think he landed, honestly in a good place,

940
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 2: a quarterback room that is wide open at the moment,

941
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 2: and some place that like, if he does show up

942
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 2: and prove that he is good enough, he can be

943
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 2: QB one, because when you look at the quarterback room,

944
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 2: what you got mister badman who won't be ready to play?

945
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 1: Can Shahn Watson who still has an injury and isn't

946
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 1: as was referred to from by Jimmy Haslam as a mistake.

947
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: So you own.

948
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 3: He was a mistake?

949
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 2: Can you pick it? Bounced around a bit? Joe Flacco,

950
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 2: he's forty. I think he probably has the best chance

951
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 2: to start Week one, but I don't think he is

952
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 2: the season fix.

953
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: I talked about this a lot last week and honestly

954
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 1: the week before, and I wrote about it too, where

955
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 1: it's incredible that the Browns have five quarterbacks on their roster.

956
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: None of them are immediate trade assets, none of them

957
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: are the Like Joe Placo is your clear cut starter

958
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: because he has the most experience to start the season

959
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: and he's the only one you feel good about starting tomorrow,

960
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: but like Kenny Pickett is of no value to you

961
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: because the only team that still needs a quarterback is

962
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: the Steelers, and guess what.

963
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 3: He just came from them.

964
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: And then you have two unproven rookies and then a

965
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 1: quarterback that's costing you a lot of money that is

966
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 1: a complete non factor. So this is this is kind

967
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: of clearly a complete unforeseen situation. Yeah, Andrew Berry admitted

968
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: as much, saying the plan was never to take two quarterbacks.

969
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: I think this was a directive from ownership to say, hey,

970
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: should ur sators have fallen too the fifth round, like

971
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: we have to take him, And that was never the

972
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,959
Speaker 1: plan for Stpanski and Barry, And so that's now why

973
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 1: they're kind of having to navigate while these two are

974
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: now and rookie Mini camp, all right, who's getting And

975
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: everybody of course is going to be reading into who's

976
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: getting the first reps. Yeah, like Dylan Gabriel got the

977
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: first reps before Shadur Sanders did, but then again he

978
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: was drafted a whole day before and two rounds before.

979
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: That makes sense. There is some truth to when coaches say,

980
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: don't read a whole lot into it. Yeah, first of all,

981
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: you're in shorts and T shirts for Rooki Mini Caamp,

982
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: but it doesn't mean a whole lot. Most of the

983
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: team isn't there. You're you're taught, You're playing with guys

984
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,479
Speaker 1: that are not going to be on this roster, even

985
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 1: in training camp, so you're there. Isn't really anything to

986
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 1: be taken from that, but it is gonna make it

987
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: that much harder for Shadir Sanders to stand out because

988
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: for as much as he said today that it's not

989
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: about proving everybody else wrong, it's about proving myself right,

990
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: he's gonna have very limited chances to do that because

991
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: he is competing with a wide open quarterback room and

992
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 1: he is going to have to split snaps with so

993
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 1: many other people that are essentially non factors.

994
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 2: Huh.

995
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: I have to think that the Browns are like, We'll

996
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 1: get rid of Kenny Pickett at some point because you

997
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: cannot carry five quarterbacks.

998
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 3: On ny there's gonna be something going on.

999
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: But it's it's such a and they are I brought

1000
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: about the Browns again this week because they are another

1001
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: team that is on the top of my list of

1002
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: teams that are going to need a quarterback. To take

1003
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: a quarterback high next in next year, start interesting, and

1004
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: it's they've completely bungled the position. And I mean that's

1005
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: nothing new. If you've been a Browns fan. You know

1006
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: the apast jersey that has all of the quarterback names

1007
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: on it. Yep, it's it's it's it's an absolute disasters.

1008
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 3: It's going to be interesting.

1009
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 2: I mean, we heard from the goat, Tom Brady, who

1010
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 2: has been kind of like a Chadoor Sanders mentor, and

1011
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 2: he said, let me remind you I went to the

1012
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 2: sixth round.

1013
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 3: Use it as motivation for what's to come next. He said.

1014
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 3: I actually texted Shador because I know him.

1015
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 2: Well, and I said, dude, like, whatever happens wherever you go,

1016
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 2: that's your first day Day two matters more than the draft.

1017
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 2: I was one ninety nine, so who can speak on

1018
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 2: this better than me? Like, what it really means is

1019
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 2: use it as motivation. You're gonna get your chance, go

1020
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 2: take advantage of it. And we're obviously with the rookie

1021
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 2: mini camp, we're we're seeing these we're seeing these first chances,

1022
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 2: and we we heard from both shador.

1023
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 3: Today.

1024
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 2: Do I think we have that sound let's hear from

1025
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 2: both of the rookie quarterbacks and kind of kind of

1026
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 2: their takes on these first couple of days.

1027
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,879
Speaker 8: Thank you for saying that, because I don't like my job.

1028
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 8: Here is an approve people wrong, like I prove myself right.

1029
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 8: That's that's that's and and I fully self believe with

1030
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 8: those people say that's that's just their opinion. So I

1031
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 8: don't truly care. They don't really live in my mental

1032
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 8: space about that type of stuff. Really doesn't do anything

1033
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 8: for me.

1034
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 9: I think it's so early, you know, for me, I

1035
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 9: said that in the sense that I only know one

1036
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 9: way to prepare, I only know one way to work,

1037
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 9: and that is as the starter. You know, I played

1038
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 9: a bunch of ball and I have a lot of experience,

1039
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 9: so I'm going to use that to my advantage. But

1040
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 9: for the most part, I can't say that right now.

1041
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 9: I got to continue to dominate the moment and have

1042
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 9: great practices as you build on upon that. You know,

1043
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 9: I still look forward to meeting my new teammates, you know,

1044
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 9: the bets on Monday, So I think that'll be a

1045
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 9: question down the road. But I think every day I

1046
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 9: approach is like I'm going to go get that rep,

1047
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 9: and you know, I live it like that.

1048
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 3: There's just going to be so many emotions tied between.

1049
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 2: I mean, how often does a team take two quarterbacks

1050
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 2: almost in the draft?

1051
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 3: Almost Like that's weird. I mean, like that what happens.

1052
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 1: When you have like a quarterback that you take in

1053
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: like the seventh round and it's because it's insurance and whatever.

1054
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 2: Again, Andrew Berry, weird situation for both these guys.

1055
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 1: The general manager of the Cleveland Browns, Andrew Berry, came

1056
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: out and said this was not the plan.

1057
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 3: No, clearly, no.

1058
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:41,720
Speaker 1: It again, it presents an incredible conundrum for the Browns

1059
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 1: who are investing so heavily in one position and not

1060
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: getting any returns for it at all. But both of

1061
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: these guys, I mean, you can't really have any other

1062
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,959
Speaker 1: perspective on it. I mean, Dylan Gabriel went a third

1063
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: round quarterback in a draft class that was not highly

1064
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: touted or regarded at all. So that does it? That

1065
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,240
Speaker 1: isn't a significant investment that would prevent the Browns from

1066
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,399
Speaker 1: going next year and taking a quarterback in the first round.

1067
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 1: And they have the interesting thing about what the Browns

1068
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: did in this year's draft. Yeah, not only was it

1069
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: obviously taking the two quarterbacks, but they set themselves up

1070
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 1: by trading back with Jacksonville with another first round pick

1071
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: next year, so that they have all the capital and

1072
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 1: all of the resources to go up and get whatever

1073
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: record they finished with this year. They have the opportunity

1074
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: to then go out and get a quarterback last year.

1075
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: What it's like to get there? You're taking the most

1076
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: convoluted route here, the Cleveland Browns.

1077
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 2: I just I feel bad for these guys, Like, are

1078
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 2: they going to be the two backups to Flatco?

1079
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 3: Maybe?

1080
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 1: And then once I love like Tom Brady saying he

1081
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: was picked one nine nine and anything can happen. Yet

1082
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: is that technically true? Sure? But the amount of quarterbacks

1083
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:53,720
Speaker 1: that have made it in this league to an elite

1084
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: starter franchise level, to a second contract, any of those

1085
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: qualifications you want to put on them that have come

1086
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 1: from outside the first round few and far between.

1087
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 3: The most recent he doesn't have a second contract yet. Yeah,

1088
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 3: you don't have a second contract.

1089
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's few and far between you find a

1090
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: quarterback outside of the first round that is actually your

1091
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: franchise guy, Dak Prescott. Sure, you can anecdotally point to

1092
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: a couple of different guys, but the overwhelming majority of

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00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 1: the players in the NFL that at the quarterback position

1094
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: that are playing at a high level, we're taken in

1095
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: the first round. Yeah, and when you've taken into account

1096
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 1: that this was a poor quarterback class, now where you're

1097
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,479
Speaker 1: drafted doesn't matter now, it just matters how you stack

1098
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: up to the talent that's currently in the league with you.

1099
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: So it doesn't matter that you're the second quarterback or

1100
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: the third quarterback or the fourth quarterback taken off the board.

1101
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: That completely is rendered completely irrelevant at this point. So

1102
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: that's why, like, I do what you can with the

1103
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: opportunities that you're presented if you're sure, if youre Dylan Gabriel.

1104
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: But it's gonna be an uphill battle either.

1105
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 3: Way for both of them. It's brutal.

1106
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 2: I hope Shador Sanders pops off, Like I love to

1107
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,760
Speaker 2: see a good life. Let me prove me wrong comeback story,

1108
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 2: and his has just been brutal. Like was he a

1109
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 2: first round pick? Maybe not, but I don't think he

1110
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 2: was a fifth round pick. But let's move on to

1111
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 2: the Steelers trade George Pickens to the Cowboys. Dallas receives

1112
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 2: Pickens and a twenty seven to sixth round pick. Well,

1113
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh gets a twenty twenty six third round selection, and

1114
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 2: they kind of pickswapped in twenty twenty seven with a

1115
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 2: fifth rounder. But Pittsburgh, you know, they just traded for

1116
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 2: DK Metcalf, so he's going to be their number one

1117
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 2: Cowboys get their extra weapon. He's still going to be

1118
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 2: like that number two to to Seedee Lamb. And I

1119
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 2: think sometimes a change of scenery is the best thing

1120
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 2: that can happen for a player who like can be

1121
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 2: great and has potential. Is a little hot headed and

1122
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 2: positive for Pickens, he's never really had a franchise quarterback

1123
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 2: and now you're you're with Dak, you're with a I mean,

1124
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 2: it's another storied franchise.

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00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 3: Thoughts on this train they had to do it, need

1126
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 3: to do something.

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00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,399
Speaker 1: I've like, I don't necessarily know if it was the

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00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: best idea for the Pittsburgh Steelers to get rid of

1129
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: George Pickens because you don't have a quarterback and like

1130
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 1: you're already kind of handicapping your offense in that way.

1131
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 3: Uh huh.

1132
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 1: However, you can't deny that there needed to be a

1133
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: change of seat because George Pickens is a volatile player

1134
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: and he can I don't know that Ceedee Lamb is

1135
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: necessarily the guy to learn from from that regard, but

1136
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,760
Speaker 1: you are going he's going to have a huge spotlight

1137
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 1: on him as.

1138
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 3: Member of the Dallas lay one of the biggest.

1139
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: But the biggest thing for me was this is something

1140
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: Dallas has needed to do for the last year and

1141
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: last year going into the season, I was like, who

1142
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: are defense is afraid of other than Ceede Lamp? Who

1143
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: are defense is afraid of other than Ceede Lamp? The

1144
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: answer was no one, And everybody pushed back on me saying, well,

1145
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: they've got all these Pro bowlers. I was like, I

1146
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: don't care. Like, when you talk about an offense and

1147
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 1: a productive offense at that you need to present the

1148
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 1: defense with differentials. Otherwise, one guy, Ceedee Lamb is going

1149
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: to be going to go ineffective and where it's going

1150
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 1: to go not ineffective in the sense that for Ceeda,

1151
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,280
Speaker 1: but like effective for Ceede Lamb, because he is capable

1152
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: of he's capable of being a top three receiver in

1153
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,280
Speaker 1: this leak. He is the top three receiver in this league.

1154
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 1: Now you get the injury to Dak Prescott and there's

1155
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 1: all that. However, going into this year, you cannot deny

1156
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: that you needed another weapon, whether that was another receiver,

1157
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: whether that was a bona fide running back, whether that

1158
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: was a better tight end. I like Jake Ferguson, He's

1159
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 1: just not necessarily that guy. I was begging the Cowboys

1160
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 1: to do this last year, so now they finally do it.

1161
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: And I think that giving up a third or trading

1162
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: away a third round pick for him, I think it's

1163
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: fine if you can indeed get what George pick if

1164
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: you can get the ceiling from George Pickens, if you

1165
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 1: can get his ceiling, he is going and he is

1166
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: inherently going to be, at least in the beginning respected

1167
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: by defensive. Opposing defense is like, all right, we need

1168
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: to cover him, we need to make or that you

1169
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: know somebody is on him, which takes attention away from

1170
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:07,720
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb. They should balance out I don't actually hasitas

1171
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 1: a balance out the Dallas Cowboys offense because they still

1172
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 1: need a better run game. Yes they do, but this

1173
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: helps like Dallas to kind of backed themselves into a

1174
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 1: corner by waiting this long by doing all. Like the

1175
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 1: fact that they didn't draft a receiver to me was.

1176
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:25,760
Speaker 3: Just like weird, what weird?

1177
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 1: What's wrong with you?

1178
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 2: The fact that the Steelers didn't draft a quarterback was

1179
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 2: also kind of or like, who was weird?

1180
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 1: I think have essentially given up on this year, like

1181
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: addressing the quarterback position this year.

1182
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 2: The long term, they have three backups and not a

1183
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 2: franchise quarterback right now. And the latest of Aaron Rodgers

1184
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 2: is like when they were asked about it, one of

1185
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 2: the minority owners said, it's more it's more complex than AI.

1186
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 3: What excuse me?

1187
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 1: What I'm so out on any of the discourse around Aaron.

1188
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 2: Rodgers basically have no idea he's got any idea.

1189
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 1: He's got no insign up to sign at this point

1190
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: because with anybody, because like he doesn't want to do

1191
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 1: OTAs and so he can just avoid that whole speculation

1192
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:11,879
Speaker 1: of not getting in for OTAs with the new team

1193
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: by just not signing with a new team. So, like

1194
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 1: I've said that, I think he's gonna wait a while.

1195
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 1: He could even wait.

1196
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:17,240
Speaker 3: For the season.

1197
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 1: He could even wait too till training camp to see

1198
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 1: if something happens where another team. Right, he's clearly not

1199
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 1: sold on going to the Steelers. No over not uh that,

1200
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: But like, at this point, if you're Pittsburgh, you were

1201
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: never going to get the long term solution at quarterback

1202
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 1: this year with the draft position that you had, not

1203
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: wanting to give up assets. I think it was kind

1204
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: of smart in a way to go out and get

1205
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 1: guys that can immediately impact your team. Derek Carmon was

1206
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: one of my favorite guys in the draft, but because

1207
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 1: you knew at the end of the day you weren't

1208
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 1: going to solve your quarterback issues this year. No, so like,

1209
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: all right, wait for next year when the class is

1210
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 1: deeper and maybe you have a losing run.

1211
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,280
Speaker 2: He's kind of the first ever losing record. I don't

1212
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 2: that's tough. That's interesting. Real quick, last one here, the

1213
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 2: trade up for Travis Hunter landing with the Jags.

1214
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:11,439
Speaker 3: His excitement was next level.

1215
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 2: He's a Florida boy born born and raised there until

1216
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 2: high school, then until he moved to Georgia. But no, no, no, no,

1217
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 2: that was something else I was going to get into.

1218
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 3: But no, congrats to him.

1219
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 2: I want to get to Abdul Carter real quick, who

1220
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 2: went number three in the draft to the Giants. The

1221
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 2: headline in the last few weeks is that he's been

1222
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 2: asking for retired numbers. He asked for a number fifty six,

1223
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 2: Lords Taylor's retired number. He said no, respectfully, and then

1224
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 2: he asked for number eleven, Phil simms retired number.

1225
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 3: He said no.

1226
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 2: Family had a vote and he was outed out voted

1227
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 2: by his.

1228
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 3: Family to let Carter wear it. And I have some

1229
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 3: thoughts on this.

1230
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 2: You can't do that, buddy, Like you can't like it,

1231
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 2: just rubbed the wrong way, like coming into a team

1232
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 2: like yes, you were a top draft pick, you haven't

1233
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 2: really earned anything yet. And it's a respect thing for

1234
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 2: these players who came before you, who got one of

1235
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 2: the highest honors that you can get with a franchise,

1236
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 2: to get their number retired. It's different if a player

1237
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 2: offers it to you, but to have the audacity to

1238
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 2: ask for a retired number is just I didn't like it.

1239
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: H Martin and I talked to Ak Shipley about this

1240
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 1: last week and AQ went to Penn State twelve year

1241
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: NFL better and AQ won the Rimington Trophy, which is

1242
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: given to the league's best or the college football's best

1243
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: center while he was at Penn State. So he came

1244
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 1: into the league though he was a seventh thrond picky

1245
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: with some accolades, and he's just like, you don't do

1246
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: you don't do that. Also from you don't do that.

1247
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: It with Martin that brought this up, where why would

1248
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: you want to put that on yourself? Why would you

1249
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 1: want to put those expectations on yourself, because then you're

1250
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: always going to be You're always gonna have to justify

1251
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 1: taking that number, especially from a guy like Lawrence Taylor eleven,

1252
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,439
Speaker 1: you know, like Michael Persons who came out of Penn State.

1253
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: Where's eleven for the Dallas Cowboys. So now you're going

1254
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: to be compared to Michael Parsons, like, yeah, your own player, Yeah,

1255
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: be your own guys. Set your own standards for a number.

1256
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 1: Don't go after anybody else's. I'm happy that you have confidence.

1257
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 3: Yeah we should, but then that was just wrong.

1258
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 1: But you're asking for problems you don't want.

1259
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 2: You can't do that. That's just a respect thing that

1260
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 2: rubbed me the wrong way. All right, We're gonna take

1261
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 2: a quick break here, but when we come back. Yeah,

1262
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick is in the media again, but not for football.

1263
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 3: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

1264
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 2: Welcome back to Fox Sports Saturday, Am. Alex Curry here

1265
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,439
Speaker 2: with Carmen Vitally, coming to you live from the Fox

1266
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 2: Sports Radio studios. Thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon

1267
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 2: with Karmi and me. Now, Bill Belichick, you guys, has

1268
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 2: just been taking over the media, but not for football.

1269
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: Which is so weird to say so.

1270
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 2: It's so add a character and so not on brand

1271
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 2: for Bill's entire NFL career because it's all been about

1272
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 2: him and his girl friend Jordan. And to ban or

1273
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 2: not to ban her from you and see football facilities

1274
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 2: was the headlines yesterday that she apparently was banned, and

1275
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 2: then they came out and said so that she wasn't

1276
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 2: and that it's just it's just been a whole mess.

1277
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 2: And let me just let me just share this right now.

1278
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 2: I do not care who you date, right I have

1279
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 2: grandpa best friends, I have best friends of all ages.

1280
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 2: Age has never been an issue for me. In any

1281
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 2: capacity as long as it's legal. Is it weird, sure,

1282
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 2: but it's not my life. You do you We live

1283
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 2: in a no judgment household. What I have an issue

1284
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 2: with is when your work, when your relationship starts to

1285
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 2: affect your work, right, because it's become a distraction.

1286
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 3: It is the distraction. They are.

1287
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 2: The most talked about thing in college football right now,

1288
00:59:55,600 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 2: and it's Bill Belichick and his she's twenty four four

1289
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 2: year old, Yeah, she can'trun a car yet, twenty four

1290
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,919
Speaker 2: year old girlfriend. And Bill Belichick is the state's highest

1291
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 2: paid public employee at ten million a year. And the

1292
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 2: part that kind of feels off a little to me.

1293
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 2: Julian Edelman was on The Herd this week and shared

1294
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 2: that Bill's biggest rule while he was a head coach

1295
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 2: was no distractions around the game, around practice, around football. Right,

1296
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 2: and so he is doing exactly what he preached not

1297
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 2: to do for decades, right.

1298
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 1: The biggest thing, the biggest thing that, like we talked

1299
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 1: about this last week, which was Jordan Hudson is being

1300
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 1: c seed on emails coming from the university. She is

1301
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 1: acting on behalf of Bill Belichick while he is doing

1302
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: his personal stuff. And the North Carolina when he was

1303
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 1: the North Carolina.

1304
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Speaker 3: Football takes like personal rep to his.

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01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 1: And her stuff. Her inexperience in the job that she's

1306
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 1: doing for Bill Belichick, Yeah, is my biggest issue because

1307
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 1: it's creating fire it's self inflicting firestorms on the both

1308
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 1: of them that it's becoming a distraction, but it's also

1309
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 1: affecting people outside of them. If she was just Bill

1310
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick's publicist and only for his book and all

1311
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 1: of this other stuff, that's another story. But when you're

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01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 1: involving the university in all of this. The university came

1313
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 1: out and they said that she's not banned, and she's

1314
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 1: allowed in the football's facilities, but she's also not allowed

1315
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 1: to be a part of Like she said, she wasn't

1316
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 1: hired by the university. The university made sure to say

1317
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 1: she's not an employee of the university, but she did

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01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 1: have sway and that's an inarguable point. I want to

1319
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 1: shout out Pabolatore because Pabulatoria finds out his podcast did

1320
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 1: an extensive, extensive investigation into Jordan Hudson, into her past,

1321
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: into her current and the story gets weirder and weirder

1322
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 1: and weirder the more you learn about it, and the

1323
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 1: more you learn about her. Apparently she's very concerned with

1324
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 1: her The Miss main pageant is starting today, and she's

1325
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 1: very concerned that this whole episodisode has decreased her chances

1326
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 1: of winning Miss Maine.

1327
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 3: She's still competing.

1328
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 1: Yes, what go? You have not checked out Pablo Torre's episode?

1329
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 1: Pablotorius finds Pablo Torre finds out the latest episode diving

1330
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 1: into Jordan Hudson and just what her the power structure

1331
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: and what has going on? You talk to eleven different sources,

1332
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: so I can't get to all of it. We can't

1333
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 1: get to all of it. I really encourage you. He's

1334
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 1: put so much effort into this. Please go look at Pablo.

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01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 3: I've just clips, but now I want to Now I

1336
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:31,919
Speaker 3: want to die.

1337
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 1: I have to listen to the same, the whole thing, because.

1338
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 3: There is It's not what I'm doing on my drive home.

1339
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 1: There is so much. It's so weird, Like the footnotes

1340
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 1: of this story so weird, hard that aren't even making

1341
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 1: headlines right now, Like her mom apparently has a sex museum.

1342
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 1: Excuse me, there, there is There is so much to

1343
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 1: this story that you don't know. And Pabloatore talked with

1344
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 1: people that directly talk to her, that are directly part

1345
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 1: of her life, eleven different sources. Please go check it out.

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01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 2: The only thing that kind of like can so me

1347
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 2: a little Charles Barkley coming out and saying he's been

1348
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 2: close with Bill Belichick for decades and he's.

1349
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 3: Concerned about him. I'm like, I would be so that.

1350
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:15,439
Speaker 2: Again, Bill, blink, blink twice if you need some help.

1351
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 1: But again it goes back to I don't care what

1352
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 1: you do in your relationship. Are you qualified for the

1353
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 1: job that you are apparently doing and that is not

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01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 1: the case. Also shout out Lawrence Holmes to Paul students

1355
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 1: who apparently my clip from last week was used in

1356
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 1: class to talk about PR and the basics of PR

1357
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 1: journalism one oh one that Jordan's seemed to not understand well.

1358
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 1: The subject does not dictate, no questioning ever, answer it

1359
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 1: however you want, you spent it. You if you are

1360
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 1: working with an outside outlet, s Yes, mornings is one

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01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 1: of the last bastions of independent of actual journalism in

1362
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 1: the morning slot. You do not get to dictate that interview.

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01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 1: And if you would have known the PR basics, as

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01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 1: Jordan Hudson, you would have never stopped it where you did.

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01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 1: You would have allowed that line of questions. You would

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01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 1: have shown that this would have set off a much

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01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 1: larger and unintended consequences than you were ready for.

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Speaker 3: It's insane.

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01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 2: Who would have thought, All right, now, let's check in

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01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 2: with Martin Wise and see what's trending.

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01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 1: More or less insane?

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Speaker 5: That or the fact that the Celtics have blown multiple

1373
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 5: twenty point leads in this series, because right now they

1374
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 5: are up ninety six to seventy. Okay, we've seen this

1375
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:30,919
Speaker 5: story before in games one and two. Yeah, but looks,

1376
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 5: I don't know, we're seeing Mitchell Robinson just shot a

1377
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 5: free throw, so all the same beats are happening.

1378
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 3: But yeah, still Bill, Still Bill.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Well, right now in this Game three of the

1380
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 5: Eastern Conference one my finals, right now, seventeen points a

1381
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 5: piece for Jason Tatum and Derek White, Jalen Brown with

1382
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 5: nineteen points leading all scores, Peyton Pritchell with eighteen off

1383
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 5: the bench.

1384
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 1: He shiit four threes.

1385
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 5: Jalen Brunston's got nineteen, Kronthley Towns with fifteen. Josh Hart,

1386
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 5: he's got ten points and six rebounds, again a twenty

1387
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 5: six point deficit for the Knicks at the at home

1388
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 5: first game of this series in Madison Square Guard ninety

1389
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 5: six to seventy Major League Baseball bottom of the sixth inning,

1390
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 5: the Braves have a two to one lead over the Pirates.

1391
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 5: Also in the bottom of the six, Cardinals four to

1392
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 5: nothing over the Nationals, A's have a four to one

1393
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:18,919
Speaker 5: lead over the Yankees and the bottom of the fifth,

1394
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 5: and at the bottom of the fourth, the Brewers have

1395
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 5: a won nothing lead over the Rays. The Indiana Fever

1396
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 5: had a preseason game today. Caitlin Clark finished with thirteen

1397
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 5: points to twenty three minutes of action, So the second

1398
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 5: preseason action. They beat the breaks off of the Brazilians,

1399
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 5: some team from Brazil and the wouldn't it been the

1400
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 5: Brazilian national.

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01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 3: Team, I don't know.

1402
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 1: It was like they're a actual team.

1403
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 5: It was like, you know, they played like the under

1404
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 5: nineteen or you know, throughout all years in the summer.

1405
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 5: It was one of those Brazilian teams.

1406
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 1: That was their first game.

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Speaker 5: This one was against WNBA competition, the Atlanta Dream much

1408
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 5: closer margin by the way, eighty one to seventy six.

1409
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 5: That was not the score against that Brazilian team that

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01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 5: they played earlier. And Derek Carr, eleven year veteran in

1411
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 5: the NFL, most of it with the Raiders first the

1412
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 5: Oakland Raiders and the Vegas Raiders, and then I went

1413
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 5: so well there with he and Dennis Allen, which was

1414
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 5: the worst quarterback and head coach winning combination in the

1415
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 5: NFL history. Saint said, let's run it back, same quarterback

1416
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 5: head coach combination again for two three years. No more

1417
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 5: success there, you know what I'm being sorry, I'm a

1418
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 5: Saints fan, but congratulations to Derek Carr making seriously a

1419
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 5: second round pick out of Fresno State, making it eleven

1420
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 5: years in the league.

1421
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Speaker 1: That it is an accomplished man. I went to Barden especially.

1422
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 1: I've heard from guys that he played with that it

1423
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 1: wasn't the end, he wasn't the best leader. But I'm

1424
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 1: not here, I'm not no, I'm not here to do that.

1425
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 1: On a day that he retired, he forfeited a lot

1426
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 1: of money by doing so, so.

1427
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 5: Hey gave up thirty million guarantee. He did not want

1428
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 5: to have shoulder surgery. Hurt that shoulder going over the top.

1429
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 1: Yell In a major injury. I don't blame him. I'm

1430
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 1: not either.

1431
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 5: I'm not not going to leave this, so I do

1432
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 5: a tip of the cap to Derek Carr for eleven

1433
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 5: years of service. Second round pick out of Fresno State.

1434
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 5: He hangs them up to love a.

1435
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 2: Little bits, zero playoffs wins. Last hour, Gosh, Martin Jem

1436
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 2: all right, you're listening to Fox Sports Saturday and Males

1437
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 2: Curry here with Carmen Vitali. It is time for our

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01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 2: next guest. He is the host of the NFL and

1439
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 2: Fox podcast. A bestie of the show, Dave Hellman, thanks

1440
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 2: for coming on.

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Speaker 6: Happy to be on. Guys. What's up?

1442
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 1: Oh?

1443
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:20,479
Speaker 3: You know so much?

1444
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 2: Let's start with, Uh, your Cowboys finally training for a

1445
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 2: wide receiver at George Pickens this week. How important was

1446
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 2: it for them to add another weapon to this offense?

1447
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 6: Oh? I mean it was crucial. I think important underscores it.

1448
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 6: I mean, I said after the draft, And it wasn't

1449
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 6: the Cowboys fault in my opinion that they came out

1450
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 6: of the draft without a receiver. Sometimes the board just

1451
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 6: falls that way, but they needed one if anybody was

1452
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 6: going to take them seriously as an offense. I mean, C. D.

1453
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 6: Lamb and a bunch of names that only Cowboy diehards

1454
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 6: know just isn't going to get it done, and so

1455
01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:00,040
Speaker 6: they needed to make it happen. I blowed them. I

1456
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 6: think it's a great move. I think George Dickens pairs

1457
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 6: well with CD Dak Prescott, whatever you might think of

1458
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 6: the best quarterback George Dickens has ever played with. And

1459
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 6: I think it has some serious potential.

1460
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was on the record to mixed reactions last

1461
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 1: year saying that the Cowboys needed somebody else other than

1462
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb that defenses were afraid of, and they do

1463
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:31,639
Speaker 1: now have that essentially in George Pickens. But I stopped

1464
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:33,640
Speaker 1: short of saying this is a balanced offense because I

1465
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 1: still think there's work to do on this offense to

1466
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:39,480
Speaker 1: actually make it more complete and balanced. Would you agree.

1467
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 6: Do Yeah? I mean it's funny that this is where

1468
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 6: we're at with the Cowboys, where it's like, Okay, you

1469
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 6: did something, and it's so exciting that you forget that.

1470
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 6: I mean, they could be doing more. You know, they

1471
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 6: drafted a couple running backs this year. Jake Ferguson is

1472
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 6: still there at tight end, had kind of a down

1473
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 6: year last year, maybe can bounce back. But like you

1474
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 6: look around at the top offenses in the NFL. I mean,

1475
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 6: obviously they share a division with the reigning champs. The

1476
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:12,719
Speaker 6: Eagles are a who's who of Pro bowlers at every position,

1477
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 6: and you look at it and you're like, yeah, this

1478
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 6: could still get a lot better. That's why you know.

1479
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 6: I'm not usually the guy that's advocating for going out

1480
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 6: and signing a bunch of you know, big names just

1481
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 6: because we know who they are. I think most of

1482
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,680
Speaker 6: the time those guys are available for a reason. But

1483
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 6: I would love to see the Cowboys sign somebody like

1484
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 6: Nick Chubb, somebody if even if his best days are

1485
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 6: behind him, it's the guy that gives you a chance

1486
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 6: at some deuce, which is just what the Cowboys have

1487
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 6: been sorely lacking for. I would say twenty one is

1488
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 6: the last time that I really felt like the Cowboys

1489
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 6: had enough firepower on offense. So yeah, I'm with you,

1490
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 6: even though this is a step in the right direction.

1491
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 2: Where would you rank Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens among

1492
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 2: the top wide receiver duos in the league.

1493
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 6: And I actually did that. I did for Fox this week.

1494
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:09,799
Speaker 6: I got I got him some trouble.

1495
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 3: Okay, let's go.

1496
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 6: I mean I had him at four. I think you know,

1497
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 6: if if you want to put him at five, I

1498
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 6: think that's fair, you know, Benesota fans. I mean, I

1499
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 6: think for my money, it's it's very obviously Cincinnati at

1500
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:30,640
Speaker 6: number one, and then right behind them, I think Philadelphia

1501
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 6: And if you think Philly's number one, that's fine with me.

1502
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 6: I think those two are are better than everybody. Yes,

1503
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:40,600
Speaker 6: and then for me, I know Tyreek Hill had a

1504
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 6: down year last year, but I still think he's got

1505
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 6: some gas in the tank. So I had Miami in third,

1506
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 6: and then after that, I think it's a toss up

1507
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:52,879
Speaker 6: between Minnesota and Dallas, like whoever you like more. Obviously,

1508
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:56,760
Speaker 6: Justin Jefferson is arguably the best receiver in the NFL. Yeah,

1509
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 6: if you if you think Jefferson and Jordan Addison is

1510
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 6: better than Pickens and Lamb, I'm not gonna argue with you,

1511
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 6: but I would I would have Dallas and Minnesota in

1512
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 6: some order for four and five.

1513
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:07,719
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1514
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, we we talked about this, like there's there's a

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Speaker 1: case I understand Minnesota fans being mad at Dave for

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01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 1: putting them.

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01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 4: They are not.

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01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:19,719
Speaker 1: I get it. I get it because I do think

1519
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:23,799
Speaker 1: that Justin Jefferson is a better receiver than Ceedee Lamb,

1520
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 1: which makes up for the discrepancy between what you think

1521
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 1: George Pickens can be versus Jordan Nadison. Jordanadison, although he's

1522
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 1: not necessarily less problematic with the legal troubles he's had,

1523
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 1: I guess I still think that that Jets is enough

1524
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 1: to take this. Those guys give him a little bit

1525
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 1: of an edge, but you know, to teach their own

1526
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 1: day of you. You spent ten years of the Cowboys,

1527
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 1: you know what it takes. And looking at that twenty

1528
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 1: one twenty one team, I mean, yeah, Tony Pollard is

1529
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 1: the biggest Tony Pollard I think, and Cedric will Are.

1530
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup kind of being at the like the fringe

1531
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:03,639
Speaker 1: weapons means that that team is probably pretty good.

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Speaker 6: Yeah exactly. I mean Tony Pollard as you're running back,

1533
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 6: he was coming into his own And yeah, if if

1534
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 6: prime Michael Gallup before he got hurt is your third

1535
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:17,679
Speaker 6: best receiver, which he was on that team because Amari

1536
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 6: Cooper was still there and was still very productive. That's

1537
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 6: that's what it takes. And it's funny because I think

1538
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 6: people are finally starting to come around on this. But

1539
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 6: for so long we've done this whole thing where it's like, well,

1540
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:34,599
Speaker 6: how much help does Dak Prescott need? How many weapons

1541
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:37,800
Speaker 6: does he need? Every team in the league is doing

1542
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 6: everything it can to surround its quarterback with as many

1543
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 6: weapons as possible. I mean, people are killing the Bills

1544
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 6: for not doing more to get Josh Allen another receiver,

1545
01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 6: and they went and signed Elijah Moore after the draft.

1546
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:53,560
Speaker 6: Josh Allen is a way better quarterback than Dak Prescott,

1547
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 6: and so like if the Bibles and Cheats of the

1548
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:01,680
Speaker 6: world are turning over every so to get their quarterbacks

1549
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 6: more weapons than the Cowboys absolutely should be and hopefully

1550
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:09,719
Speaker 6: this George Pickens trade is a sign that the Cowboys

1551
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 6: are starting to understand that.

1552
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:13,600
Speaker 2: Okay, Another hot topic this week was we got our

1553
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 2: first look at Shador Sanders with the Browns at rookie

1554
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 2: mini camp, but he did not take first reps. He

1555
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 2: was behind their third round pick Dylan Gabriel. I've gone

1556
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 2: before him. What are your expectations for Shador throughout camp

1557
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 2: and do you think he has a chance to earn

1558
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:29,599
Speaker 2: the starting job?

1559
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:33,879
Speaker 6: I mean, I think he absolutely has a chance because

1560
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 6: the Browns quarterback situation, I mean, look at hot mess,

1561
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 6: look at what they Not only is it a hot mess,

1562
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 6: but I always at this time of the year, I

1563
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 6: always say follow the money. I mean, George Flacco is

1564
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 6: forty and he's making forty million dollars. Kenny Pickett's salary

1565
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 6: is like two million, okay, and all they had to

1566
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:53,680
Speaker 6: trade for him was like a fifth round pick, and

1567
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:56,480
Speaker 6: then you got a couple of rookies. There's nothing stopping

1568
01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:59,639
Speaker 6: the Browns from giving the job to the best quarterbacks.

1569
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 6: I think I think he has a chance. But having

1570
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 6: said that, I always say this, It's funny during the

1571
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 6: whole build up to the draft, we get so excited

1572
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 6: about all these guys potential, and then as soon as

1573
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 6: it's over, unless you're a top fifty pick, my expectations

1574
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 6: go out the window. Like I have no expectations for

1575
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:22,440
Speaker 6: Shirir Sanders. He's forth on the depth chart. He's probably

1576
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 6: not going to get reps ahead of Dylan Gabriel, at

1577
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:28,800
Speaker 6: least until he definitively proves that he's better, which will

1578
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 6: probably take at least a couple weeks into camp, if

1579
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:35,639
Speaker 6: not more than that. So he's already just by where

1580
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 6: he wound up getting drafted. He's behind the apall and

1581
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 6: I honestly, I think it's unfair to him to put

1582
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 6: a ton of expectation on him. That doesn't mean that

1583
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 6: he can't defy those expectations or blow us all away.

1584
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:50,639
Speaker 6: But yeah, once you're once you're a day three pick.

1585
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 6: I'm just setting my expectations at neutral, and you know,

1586
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:57,920
Speaker 6: let's see what happens. But it's it's a hard place

1587
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 6: to dig out of when you're third worth on that

1588
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 6: quarterback up chart because there's just not that many reps

1589
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 6: for these guys.

1590
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:05,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, also doesn't help that he wasn't a part of

1591
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 2: the original plan, which is just hard. But Dave, we

1592
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 2: appreciate you always coming on the show. Thank you so

1593
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 2: much for all your insight.

1594
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 6: Anytime you'll talk to you.

1595
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 2: All Right, we're gonna take one more break when we

1596
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 2: come back our feel good stories of the week.

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01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:26,840
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1599
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:30,720
Speaker 2: with Carmen Vitali, who has definitely shaking that thing right now,

1600
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:32,799
Speaker 2: let's end it with the dance party.

1601
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:33,800
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1602
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:36,120
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1603
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1604
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:40,479
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1605
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1606
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1607
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:48,639
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1608
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 2: at Carmi V. So let's end on our feel good

1609
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:54,519
Speaker 2: stories doing the week.

1610
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 3: I know it's.

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01:15:57,360 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 2: School music has been like fire today.

1612
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 3: Good job, guys.

1613
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 1: Middle school was also not a great time, but that's okay.

1614
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:08,759
Speaker 2: The music was hilarious and awesome. There's all these memes

1615
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 2: that where you look back, you're like, we were singing

1616
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 2: all those words that were definitely not a not appropriate.

1617
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 1: Okay, we're headed to the Showball is always appropriate as

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01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:19,840
Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned.

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01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:22,719
Speaker 3: It works. Okay, let's head to Vatican City in Italy.

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01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 2: Why you ask, well, because the first American Pope, pop

1621
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 2: Leo the fourteenth from Chicago, you guys, and is a

1622
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:38,559
Speaker 2: Chicago sports fan and the internet has been losing its

1623
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 2: mind over it. He went to Villanova, he is a

1624
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 2: white Sox fan, and Chicago has produced a pope and

1625
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 2: a president before the Bears got a quarterback to throw

1626
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 2: over four thousand yards.

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01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 1: I had to I had to just drop.

1628
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 2: I know, I know, but their current quarterback Caleb Williams

1629
01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 2: had some fun with it the pope tweeting that out,

1630
01:16:58,520 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 2: He sure did.

1631
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 3: But the memes KRMI have just been well like Chef's kiss.

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01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 1: Well, this is ignited the North Side and South Side

1633
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 1: rivalry to biblical levels because initially it was reported that

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01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:13,600
Speaker 1: the pope was a Cubs fan. Wait what Yes, it was,

1635
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:16,760
Speaker 1: and like so much so that on the Wrigleyfield marquee

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01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:22,560
Speaker 1: it said congratulations like Cubs fan, Pope Leo the fourteenth.

1637
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 1: And then his brother, Popolio's brother, Robert Prevost is his name,

1638
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 1: Robert Francis Prevost was was interviewed for this white local

1639
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 1: journalism matters. Y people WGN went to the house of

1640
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 1: his brother. Yeah, and not only found out that he's

1641
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:39,719
Speaker 1: a word ole player and a Words with Friends player,

1642
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 1: he just liked me for real. He his brother was like,

1643
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 1: I don't know where anybody got that. He's always been

1644
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 1: a Sox fan. And then and then somebody found a

1645
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 1: picture sometimes scongress sometimes found a picture of him at

1646
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 1: the two thousand and five World Series against the Astros.

1647
01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 1: And then somebody went and scrubbed through the game that

1648
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 1: he was at. He was on the broadcast. No, so

1649
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 1: you saw him as he grew up on the South

1650
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:09,360
Speaker 1: Side of Chicago, Southside suburbs, yea, and he is like

1651
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 1: he's a white Sox fan. And this is like me

1652
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:16,759
Speaker 1: being the newly I feel like newly coined term cradle Catholic.

1653
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 1: I feel very conflicted about this because, first of all,

1654
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 1: being raised in Chicago Catholics has prepared me for this

1655
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 1: moment my entire life. But I'm also like kind of

1656
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 1: conflicted where I'm like, is the pope supposed to be cool? Yes,

1657
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 1: it's never happened in my life. Why not? It's it's time,

1658
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:37,639
Speaker 1: It's time, And I do think it's I mean, it's

1659
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:40,760
Speaker 1: really interesting because he was such a good choice for

1660
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 1: so many different reasons outside of being American. He's the

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01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 1: most un American American because he's so worldy. You spent

1662
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:48,839
Speaker 1: so much time in Perdue or Peru doing missionary acting,

1663
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:52,880
Speaker 1: open missionary missionary work in Peru, so he speaks like

1664
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 1: five different languages. He spent a ton of time in

1665
01:18:56,200 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 1: Rome doing the seminary school, and really like he's he's

1666
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:04,680
Speaker 1: was in charge of electing bishops before that, which is

1667
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 1: how kind of his name rose to prominence over others

1668
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 1: in this conclave.

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01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Cola came out.

1670
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 1: This is the first like relatable pope where I'm like,

1671
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 1: oh my god, he's had an Italian beef sandwich like

1672
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:23,320
Speaker 1: Portillo's now in Chicago has the leo, which is Italian beef,

1673
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 1: baptized in gravy, which is just Italian beef wet. That's

1674
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 1: how you were it. He's had. He probably has an

1675
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:31,679
Speaker 1: opinion on tavern style versus.

1676
01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:34,720
Speaker 3: DC's Papa definitely does, like are we going to get it?

1677
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 3: His brother's probably going to give it to us. His

1678
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 3: brother's going to give us all the tea.

1679
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:39,800
Speaker 1: Well, his brother like authority, play words with friends every

1680
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 1: day together. I'm like, imagine your brother just becomes pope.

1681
01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:43,559
Speaker 1: But I also have like a ton of people that

1682
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 1: have connections to him that like their priests on the

1683
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 1: South Side, our friends with him, worked with him, they

1684
01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:52,560
Speaker 1: have pictures with him and like their kids babies baptisms.

1685
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:54,240
Speaker 3: It's that's insane, it's wild.

1686
01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:57,839
Speaker 1: It's God loves Chicago people. That's all I'm gonna say.

1687
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 1: He's gonna come from confirmed. God took sides in the

1688
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:04,400
Speaker 1: New York for Chicago rivalry, and we know what that

1689
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:06,639
Speaker 1: side was down Chicago.

1690
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:09,640
Speaker 2: Thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon with us. We'll

1691
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 2: see you next week, same time, same place. Have a

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01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 2: fun weekend, guys,