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Speaker 1: Well, first of all, we appreciate you, bro Wen. Remix

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Speaker 1: this again like our second remix, right, kd him Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Repeat Defender the knuckleheads.

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Speaker 1: Last time we asked you who was the first person

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Speaker 1: to bust your ass when you made to the league.

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Speaker 1: This time we're gonna ask you who's the first person

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Speaker 1: to ask you bust.

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Speaker 2: When you made to the league. The first person that worked?

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Speaker 2: The first one.

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Speaker 3: I think I said it was going drackets right, yeah,

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Speaker 3: work the first person? Who I did? I say, uh,

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Speaker 3: I say Steve Nash. It was opening night, my first

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Speaker 3: the first game of my career. I had twenty three

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Speaker 3: and eleven and open the night and we beat the

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Speaker 3: Lakers when they had Nash, Kobe, d White, Pile, all of.

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Speaker 2: Them was there. I remember that game, and I remember

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Speaker 2: I came out that night and it was I had

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Speaker 2: a big game. Off the rip I was that Cod

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Speaker 2: was on the court. Yeah he was hot too, Like.

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Speaker 3: That was my first game, so shit, he was you know,

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Speaker 3: he was out there snapping on everybody like he was

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Speaker 3: really like a real general out there. Kobe didn't care

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Speaker 3: who you was, you know what I mean, who you

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Speaker 3: thought you was? He snapping He's saying what you got

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Speaker 3: to say like he was in charge. So it was

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Speaker 3: like every time I did something, it was like he

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Speaker 3: was the coach. He was telling everybody what to do.

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Speaker 3: Ye take this away, do that. He was giving real direction.

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Speaker 3: Yo yo yo.

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Speaker 4: We live on location from city beautiful. We here in Orlando,

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Speaker 4: the blackest one with me. We got to repeat offender today. Baby,

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Speaker 4: we got a multiple time All Star. He ain't young

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Speaker 4: no more. He a og in the game now twelve

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Speaker 4: years in. This man got all stars and all that

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Speaker 4: and everything. But more importantly he we got top seventy

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Speaker 4: five all time.

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Speaker 2: Man. We got missed the Dane time Dame Lillard in

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Speaker 2: the bill, The Show, The Show presented by Sleeper.

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Speaker 1: Last time we had you heard this was before the Bubble,

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Speaker 1: before everything, right before COVID. We didn't get a chance

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Speaker 1: to talk to you about the bubble experience. Tell us

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Speaker 1: the bubble experience, because in that bubble you was like

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Speaker 1: MVP of the bubble, like you.

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Speaker 2: Came in with the whole purpose.

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Speaker 1: I loved your interview of what you said because when

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Speaker 1: you hear something that's authentic, you feel it, and that

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Speaker 1: was real. I ain't come here to waste my time,

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Speaker 1: like I came here to kill everything and try to

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Speaker 1: win something. But just the experience of the bubble, how

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Speaker 1: you had to leave your family, had, how you had

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Speaker 1: to mingle with the other teams. We heard stories about

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Speaker 1: guys just at the pool they team over here.

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Speaker 2: That's how it was. It was like, hey you yeah, no,

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Speaker 3: When I hear people talk about the Bubble experiences, it's

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Speaker 3: like they made it seem like it was just crazy,

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Speaker 2: And for me, I thought it was cool.

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Speaker 3: I think the downside of it was leaving our family

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Speaker 3: was like we never get that time if it ain't summertime.

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Speaker 2: So I was at the crib.

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Speaker 3: I had two of my pottners at the house for

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Speaker 3: like three and a half months. Every day, my mom

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Speaker 3: my sister was coming over working out, Like I was

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Speaker 3: really kicking it with my family every day all day, breakfast, lunch, dinner,

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Speaker 3: getting time that we don't get. So having to leave

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Speaker 3: that was probably the hardest part and then going to play.

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Speaker 3: But during that time I was training, like I was

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Speaker 3: was prepared. That's why I was like, if y'all like,

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Speaker 2: I ain't gonna come out here and waste my time.

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Speaker 1: How was it being in a setting where you had

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Speaker 1: to you know, when we put our jerseys on, were

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Speaker 2: It's crowds.

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Speaker 1: It's so much space and now you're putting on you

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Speaker 2: It's only a few people here.

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Speaker 1: It's like anybody who says something, the whole room here,

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Speaker 1: like how was that because you've been playing in front

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Speaker 3: Career for Suow Like I remember the first day they

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Speaker 3: I'm saying this this weird practice was like they had

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like on this side it was Orlando

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Speaker 3: doctor's office was set up in there. It was different.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: But I think you know, once we got down to

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Speaker 3: was like, hey, you tournament for us?

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Speaker 1: How was it to like leave your family, like, because

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Speaker 1: you know how serious this thing? Yeah, people dying from

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Speaker 2: They stick in the tube ball up your nose. We

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Speaker 3: You didn't like your team had a test and slot

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Speaker 3: Sometimes it was like you got to do two tests

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Speaker 1: Guys was isolated. Yeah, the ones who flunked the code. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: But it was different, bro. Food wise, what was y'all

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Speaker 1: Because I know, you know hotels are limited to that menu,

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Speaker 2: You couldn't order that none of that. You couldn't order.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like I ate the same thing

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Speaker 3: Like I remember, everybody was posting it like look what

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Speaker 1: They try to discredit the bubble, They try to discredit

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Speaker 1: the team to win a championship for the bubble and

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Speaker 1: all that, but everybody had the same opportunities or the

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Speaker 1: same I feel like it definitely does count what you

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Speaker 3: I think it count extra yeah, because as an NBA player,

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Speaker 3: You got your everyday life, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: They can get heavy in the bubble. It was ain't

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Everybody was like their sharpest,

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Speaker 4: It's like everybody in here doing the same thing. So

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Speaker 2: I see. It's this is just a fucked up year.

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Speaker 4: It was a COVID year, and like they did what

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Speaker 2: Nah that camp, I'm sorry to me. That count for sure.

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Speaker 3: I think the only thing that I took from the

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Speaker 4: When you in a big asserena with nobody in that

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Speaker 3: And I hit a game winner in an empty arena

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Speaker 2: The bulls the boys.

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Speaker 3: GM was sitting a couple of rows across from their bench,

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Speaker 3: It was just like it was like a scrimmage. That

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Speaker 2: And that was it. But other than that, nothing really.

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Speaker 1: We had a chance to interview after he got traded

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Speaker 1: and y'all friendship. But one thing he did say about

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Speaker 2: That made it more.

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Speaker 1: Easy for him to move on or go to whatever

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Speaker 1: like what did you do? So I ran down to

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Speaker 3: And then shit, the draft came. He wasn't picked yet,

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Speaker 3: If I just tried to play that game, cause I

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Speaker 2: Talking about it. But yeah, we on the phone.

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Speaker 3: Literally I remember, I'm in my closet like packing up

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Speaker 3: I was on the team still, but I wasn't happen

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Speaker 3: He came back, played against the team, he got a

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Speaker 3: You already know it's coming from a good place. If

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Speaker 1: To have a guy like c J interviewing him, I

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Speaker 1: He had me a whole new light of CJ after

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Speaker 1: To lose that and now you got to find somebody

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Speaker 1: have CJ being the next best player to have a

440
00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,240
Speaker 1: mentality like you, it's hard to get that on teams

441
00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,159
Speaker 1: don't understand what it is because y'all came from the bottle.

442
00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,240
Speaker 1: Y'all had to work hard. Y'all got it's hard.

443
00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,200
Speaker 3: We had so much in coming coming from a mid major,

444
00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,720
Speaker 3: having to carry a team in college. It was just

445
00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,400
Speaker 3: so many things that we that we shared to where

446
00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,080
Speaker 3: it was like I knew it when I saw it.

447
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,680
Speaker 3: And I remember his first training camp, you know, his

448
00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,720
Speaker 3: rookie year. He you know, La was multi time All Star.

449
00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,760
Speaker 3: This dude on the max contract. He was like nice

450
00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,879
Speaker 3: like that when the best players in the league. And

451
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,240
Speaker 3: I'll never forget he switched on the CJ one time

452
00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,760
Speaker 3: in practice training camp and CJ like he switched. He

453
00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:26,840
Speaker 3: kind of guarded CJ like this because they didn't really

454
00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,760
Speaker 3: know CJ is nice, you know what I mean, they

455
00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,480
Speaker 3: know he was really nice like that and confident, like cocky.

456
00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,560
Speaker 3: So he CJ hitting you know right the left step

457
00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,359
Speaker 3: back fade away, and uh LA was like that's off,

458
00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 3: Like when he contested it, that's off. CJ was like,

459
00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:47,119
Speaker 3: shut up, like that's what he said this in training

460
00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:48,720
Speaker 3: camp his rookie years.

461
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,919
Speaker 2: So I remember he just had all the vets.

462
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,919
Speaker 3: Was just kind of like bothered by him because he

463
00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,760
Speaker 3: was just talking and he was backing it up too,

464
00:20:55,920 --> 00:21:00,639
Speaker 3: like he was hooping. So like from that moment I

465
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,879
Speaker 3: knew because I'll followed them in college, but from in

466
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,240
Speaker 3: the NBA, I was like, see, I might not have

467
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,560
Speaker 3: said that out loud, but I would have been thinking

468
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,399
Speaker 3: that when that happened, you know what I'm saying. So

469
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 3: I knew it was I knew it was there when

470
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,080
Speaker 3: we became a backcourt, but when he left, I also

471
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 3: was like I got a lot of confidence in it.

472
00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,639
Speaker 3: You know, obviously he gonna need time to become that

473
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 3: because he came in the league as an eighteen year old.

474
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,199
Speaker 3: He didn't have college experience, he hadn't been on the

475
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 3: court that much. But like from the day at walked in,

476
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,920
Speaker 3: I was already on his line. You know what I'm saying.

477
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:29,359
Speaker 2: I was.

478
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:31,719
Speaker 3: I come to the sideline, like, did you see how

479
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 3: they was just guard me? You see how they blessed me.

480
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 3: You see how I hit the pocket. You see how

481
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 3: I came and I passed ahead and let him make

482
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 3: the pass. So they can soften up when they see

483
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 3: they getting picked. Like I would always come to the

484
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 3: sideline and ask, when you've seen this, did you see that?

485
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 3: You know why I did this? You know why I

486
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 3: did that? On the plane, I'll show him clips of

487
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 3: like certain stuff. I started training with him, like we

488
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 3: start working out together. He started training with my trainer,

489
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 3: so he was almost like being like groomed the whole time.

490
00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 3: So it was it was just a matter of him

491
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:03,440
Speaker 3: getting experience. And last year was his first four year

492
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 3: getting it, and I thought he he hooped, you know

493
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. But he you need that time. You

494
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 3: need that time to get on the court. Do it,

495
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:15,119
Speaker 3: play against that pressure, playing like meaningful games, really feel yourself,

496
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:16,640
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And I thought the year

497
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 3: before he got more minutes than than earlier in his career.

498
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 3: And then last year he was ready. I think he

499
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 3: avered like twenty two last year, so he was ready.

500
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 3: But it's nothing like doing it and just coming into

501
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 3: it knowing like this is what I do. You know,

502
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 3: he had to do it, and last year was his

503
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,199
Speaker 3: first year starting and getting to it. But me and

504
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 3: CJ had we had reps, you know what I mean.

505
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,360
Speaker 3: We had year after year after year after year, Western

506
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 3: Conference Finals.

507
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 2: I knew sweeps.

508
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,639
Speaker 3: We didn't got swept together. I saw how he bounced

509
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,440
Speaker 3: back from it. We didn't have success together. I saw

510
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 3: how he came back from it. Like we didn't been

511
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:54,360
Speaker 3: out together, and I didn't seen him like not go out,

512
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,199
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like he ain't gonna he

513
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 3: ain't just finna go out like no sucker, like on

514
00:22:58,920 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 3: no level.

515
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 2: So it was like we.

516
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,439
Speaker 3: Had enough experiences together where like my belief and my

517
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 3: comfort with him was like that high. And you know,

518
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 3: obviously that's that's tough to replace.

519
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 2: But have you talked to him since his long injury and.

520
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 3: Y'all talked to him the day game, how he's doing,

521
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 3: he doing straight, he's.

522
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 2: Pray us up for get back of healthy recovery.

523
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 4: Tell me this, we all aspire to be, you know,

524
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 4: make the league, be an All star, whatever, try and

525
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 4: win MVP, all that stuff, right, Nobody ever thinks you're

526
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 4: gonna be like top fifty, top seventy five. Like when

527
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 4: you got that call and when you got that information,

528
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 4: like what was going through your mind?

529
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 3: I mean, the craziest thing about it is I didn't

530
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 3: know it was even a real thing, because you remember

531
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 3: when it came out, it was like I saw multiple

532
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 3: people on social media like this my top seventy five,

533
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 3: this my time, Like people was just saying what their

534
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 3: top seventy five was.

535
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 2: So I thought it was just like.

536
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 3: A trending one of those type that trending thing where

537
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 3: people just saying who they think they top seventy five

538
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 3: players are. And then it wasn't even my agent. I

539
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 3: don't even remember who called me like it was like,

540
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 3: I think it was my guy Lotto. He was working

541
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 3: with me on my music like a long time ago.

542
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 3: He called me, like, congrats on the top seventy five.

543
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 3: I was like, what you're talking about? He was like,

544
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,880
Speaker 3: you made the top seventy five. And then right after

545
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 3: I got off with him, my agent called me and

546
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 3: was telling me about it, and I was like, I

547
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,959
Speaker 3: literally didn't know this was like an actual thing, like

548
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 3: an actual accomplishment.

549
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 2: Do you remember the top fifty You remember when they had.

550
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 3: I remember when they did it and they all had

551
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 3: the jackets, yet they all took the picture together. I

552
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:43,479
Speaker 3: remember that, But I didn't know that this was I

553
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 3: assume they'd do it every fifty years, you know what

554
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 3: I'm saying. But then when they did this, people start

555
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 3: blowing me up, like you made top seventy five.

556
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 2: So I'm like, man, let me see who on here.

557
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 3: So once I look, I'm like, I start feeling bad

558
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 3: because I'm looking at the people who I grew up

559
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 3: looking up to. That didn't make it so I'm like, damn,

560
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But I think that makes

561
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,360
Speaker 3: it even more of a special accomplishment.

562
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: I was even more happy for your journey and how

563
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: you you came up making the top seventy five because

564
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 1: you know you you in the Western Conference, like you

565
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 1: probably would have had more All Star Games, more different

566
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,360
Speaker 1: Remember when them guys was winning, but your numbers was there,

567
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 1: and you posed and made the All Star Game, but

568
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 1: it was so many other more guards.

569
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 3: I mean, I always won. That's why I always felt slighted. Yeah,

570
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 3: Like I didn't make the playoffs my rookie year, and

571
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,439
Speaker 3: the next eight years I never missed.

572
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I never missed the playoffs. You a man gang

573
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 2: and they ass.

574
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 3: I mean I never missed for the next eight years.

575
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 3: So it was like they were saying, all these people

576
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 3: winning and all that. So that's why I always felt slighted,

577
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 3: because I'm like, y'all say, you gotta win. Like I'm

578
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 3: producing every year, I'm getting trapped, I'm getting double teamed,

579
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 3: I'm facing everything.

580
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 2: I'm still twenty seven.

581
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 3: End up we winning games, you know what I'm saying,

582
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 3: Like I'm out front, I'm out here in the West.

583
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, So it was like I

584
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 2: felt slight it by that.

585
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 3: So just to make that seventy fifth anniversary team, I

586
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 3: was surprised by it because I was like if it

587
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 3: was gonna be a real thing, I didn't think I'll

588
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 3: make it, Like they ain't gonna put me on there,

589
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 3: but I think the body of work speak for itselves.

590
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 4: How but how was it when you was actually there

591
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 4: for the ceremony? You see all that great and then

592
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 4: Mike show up Magic that was like that moment Like how.

593
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 2: Did you feel standing in that moment?

594
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 4: Because I did, like you know, like I tell you

595
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 4: all the time, like you know, I'm not the star

596
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 4: strugging none that, but like when MJ walk in the

597
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,679
Speaker 4: road and Matt like magic got it too for me,

598
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 4: like like like it's.

599
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 3: Like hold up, I felt so small I feel to

600
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 3: be around all of that every single direction you turn

601
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 3: and it's like, oh shit is like I'm a person

602
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 3: like I come from a family in a neighborhood of

603
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 3: like confidence and who I am like like I stand

604
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 3: for something right And when I was there, like in

605
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 3: my entire life, I never looked around and felt so

606
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 3: not small like I'm nothing, but just like Magic and

607
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 3: Isaiah and all these people. It was like a bunch

608
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 3: of dudes in there where I'm like, I wasn't looking

609
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 3: at myself as with them. I was just like I'm

610
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 3: in the room and all these dudes is in here,

611
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 3: Like it was crazy. So like we all posing for

612
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 3: like I come to All Star, you know, every year,

613
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 3: and we.

614
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 2: Take these pictures and usually, like when.

615
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 3: I was younger, it'll be Bron and Kobe and Dirk

616
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 3: and Tim Duncan and Dwight and they would be the

617
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 3: ones talking, you know, kind of they taking pictures and

618
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 3: they the ones talking, kind of leading the room.

619
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 2: But this time it was like.

620
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 3: Magic and Kareem and all these dudes, like they the

621
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 3: ones in there doing the chatter while we're taking the pictures,

622
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 3: and I'm just kind of looking around and it's Jay

623
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 3: Kidd and Stocked. I mean, I'm looking around like I'm

624
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 3: really in here with these guys.

625
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 2: Greatest point.

626
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, So like we walk out of the room where

627
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 3: we take the big picture. When we walk out, it's

628
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 3: like all these cameras like this, you know what I mean,

629
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 3: there's so many stars and all these legends in here.

630
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 3: And when we get in the hallway, you see MJ

631
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 3: walking towards us. He wasn't even in there for the mixture.

632
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 2: It just got there. He just got there.

633
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 3: So he's walking and it's more cameras on just him

634
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 3: by hisself than it is on all of us. And

635
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 3: it was like that's when you really saw the difference

636
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 3: of like, man, this dude could go. Like when he

637
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 3: was walking, I just everybody was just staring at him,

638
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 3: Like even all the people that.

639
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 2: Was like the seventy four was looking at him like

640
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: he was walking up. He walked up.

641
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 3: It was like he just took over the well, I know,

642
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 3: the whole situation.

643
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 2: They introduced y'all names.

644
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: They was calling you names and calling you all, and

645
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: everybody got their ovations and all that. But when Mike

646
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: walked out, it seemed like nah different, like the volume

647
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: just went up for some reason on my TV.

648
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 4: How when he walked out, was that your first time

649
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 4: meeting up? Because before you said you had met Mike.

650
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 2: Before, I still ain't never met it. It looked at him. Look,

651
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 2: I was.

652
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 3: Sitting there, I was standing next to Clyde. I was

653
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 3: staying as the Clyde, and I just was staring at

654
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 3: him like because all the lights was on him, and

655
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 3: it was just.

656
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 2: Like Jordan's like he's glowing and I'm looking.

657
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 3: At him like his arms and his hands, like I'm

658
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 3: just looking at him, like damn, I ain't say nothing

659
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 3: to him. Then they lined us up and we all

660
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 3: walked out. The whole time, I ain't say nothing, just

661
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 3: looking like I'm just looking like damn. I was looking

662
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 3: around at everybody. But like when he came out, it

663
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 3: was like it was like unreal. That was how loud

664
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 3: it was, how everybody like if you looked around the arena,

665
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 3: it was nothing but stars there, like we would all

666
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 3: recognize these people as stars. And how they even was

667
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 3: looking at him was like they felt small too, you

668
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like everybody was just like it's Jordan.

669
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 2: I felt like that.

670
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 4: Watching it on TV because and then we knew like

671
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 4: cause they was like he was just the Daytona race

672
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 4: or that he came from there to the Straight from

673
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 4: Man and made it. So when he showed up, it

674
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 4: was like that's what I was trying to tell people.

675
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 4: I was like, man, you all of the debating and

676
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 4: this that and th like, just watch how it is

677
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 4: when he show up, Like these are the biggest stars

678
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 4: to the biggest stars are the.

679
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 2: Stars, and when he showed up, they were impressed. When

680
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 2: he showed everybody's impressed by were is that impressed by him?

681
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 2: And that's what you say. You just had to see it. Bro.

682
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 3: I was in the back hallway. The only person who

683
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 3: was there who I felt like was just and I'm

684
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 3: not saying they was all like in all of him,

685
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 3: but you just couldn't help.

686
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 2: But that's Jordan, you know what I mean.

687
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 3: The only person who just was kind of like didn't

688
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 3: have a jacket on, didn't have his seventy five jacket on,

689
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 3: didn't really care was Dennis Robin All year.

690
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 2: He was just laying in his own world.

691
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 3: He just didn't care they was trying to put your

692
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 3: jacket on, you know what I'm saying. He just did

693
00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 3: not care. But it was everybody else he was. Everybody

694
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 3: was the same bro looking like, man, this dude is shit.

695
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 3: He everything like to everybody. It was obvious when he

696
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 3: walked out in the crowd, just yeah, that's man. Congrats

697
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 3: on that top. Sure it's well deserved.

698
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 2: Man.

699
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: Like I said, I was really happy for you because

700
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: what you had to go through, you know what I'm saying.

701
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: The road you had to take to get to where

702
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: you need to do. That's like something the icing on

703
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: the cake. For sure, we didn't get an opportunity. It

704
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: lets you know that your peers and the people that

705
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: watch you really appreciate what you bring to the table.

706
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 2: Man.

707
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 3: See, that's that's exactly what it did for me because

708
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 3: I and I still I still go about my stuff

709
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 3: the same way. But that was like the ultimate nod

710
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 3: for me to be like, okay, like people who really

711
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 3: know and people who really see it for what it is.

712
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 2: They see what I'm doing, you.

713
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: Know, we know, you know, the casual fan they just

714
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: being a casual yeah, but the real ones.

715
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 2: No, the real.

716
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 4: Hey, how was it getting to have Chauncey as a coach?

717
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 4: Is a you know, former player dude that you know,

718
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 4: super solid dude, mister big shot.

719
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 2: How was it seeing him as a head coach?

720
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 3: It was honestly for me, it was a great experience

721
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 3: because me and him had a relationship prior, but getting

722
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 3: to play for him, it was like how he supported me,

723
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 3: how he was able to communicate with each other, and

724
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 3: how he pushed me like he had challenged me. Like

725
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 3: I remember our first preseason game, he was playing against Sacramento.

726
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 3: It might have been our second preseason game, was in

727
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 3: sact and.

728
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 2: They beat us. They kind of blessed us. They was excited.

729
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 3: It was like that was and I was like, okay, Sack,

730
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 3: they're gonna be good, right because they ain't used to

731
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,719
Speaker 3: be like this, but they kind of blessed us. They

732
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 3: was playing fast, they was guard and they was you know,

733
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 3: transition getting out running. They kind of ran us. And

734
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,959
Speaker 3: after the game, he was like, man, I feel like

735
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 3: he was kind of pressing a little bit, like you

736
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 3: was trying too hard to do this and you was

737
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 3: trying this and you should have Like he kind of

738
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 3: just got on me and it was one on one too,

739
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 3: Like he kind of called me down.

740
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 2: Into this little office at the hotel.

741
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 3: He just got on me, and I kind of like

742
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 3: bucked back a little bit, like, broh, I ain't ever

743
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 3: tried to I ain't pressing nothing, you know what I'm saying.

744
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 3: He was like, nah, I respect that you're saying that,

745
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 3: but this is how I feel, just what I see

746
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 3: brou like. And from that moment I was like, he like,

747
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,959
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna say my dad, but that's the kind

748
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 3: of conversation my Dad would have had with me or

749
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 3: would have addressed me that way. So I knew he

750
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 3: was I knew he was solid before, but after that,

751
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 3: I was like, he really is a solid individual because

752
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 3: he pressed me instantly, you know, like we ain't even

753
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 3: been together long at all. Where a lot of situations,

754
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 3: you know, first time coaches and new coaches somewhere where

755
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 3: a player been a long time, they gonna try to

756
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 3: tread rightly and try to like side with the player,

757
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But I knew he had

758
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 3: my best interest. So from that point on, I just

759
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 3: I embraced the coach player relationship and our relationship aside

760
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 3: from that even more. And you know, he was always

761
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 3: trying to put me in position to be successful, you

762
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 3: know what I mean. Always felt like he was on

763
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 3: my team. And I think that was why I had

764
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 3: the best season in my career last year.

765
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: How was that to get the chatter all year about

766
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: staying and leaving and you playing some of the best

767
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,479
Speaker 1: basketball you can play, like, you know what I'm saying,

768
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: Like you averaging thirty two a game. It's looking easy,

769
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 1: you making all these right decisions, but still you want

770
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: to win. You know, it's rebuilding you don't know. We

771
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 1: never know what the office is thinking. You never know

772
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: what's in the making. We never know what players are

773
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: actually available that they talking to.

774
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 2: How was it to have the cheddar? After every game.

775
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: They want to ask you, do you want to stay

776
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: or do you want to leave? And you're just playing

777
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: so good you just want to focus on basketball?

778
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 2: How was that year for you?

779
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 3: I had a solid year, you know, I think I

780
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 3: off the court, I had a lot of stuff going

781
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 3: on personally, so I just kind of threw myself even

782
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 3: more into when I could play basketball.

783
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 2: I played, I played ball, you know what I mean.

784
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 3: And as far as like staying and going and all

785
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 3: that stuff, I ain't really pay a lot of attention

786
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 3: to it because when I was in Portland, like I was,

787
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 3: my heart was fully in Portland, like I literally, you

788
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 3: couldn't tell me I didn't have a chance to win

789
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 3: at some point, like that's really what I believed. And

790
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 3: like you said, you never know what front office. You

791
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 3: never know what they thinking, or you know, what they

792
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 3: really thinking, you know, as opposed to what they might

793
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,959
Speaker 3: tell you or how they feel or what they think.

794
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 3: I really believed it was. We was all on the

795
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 3: same mission. And once it came time where I kind

796
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,439
Speaker 3: of you get to that point in your career where

797
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 3: you're like, man, I sink with the ship if we

798
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 3: all going all in and that's all we care about

799
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 3: is trying to win. But you also like, I don't

800
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 3: want to play the fool and not give myself a chance.

801
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 3: Like if I don't win, I can deal with that

802
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 3: if I'm doing everything I can and give myself a chance.

803
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 3: But if I'm not, then you know I can't. I

804
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 3: can't go out like that. And you know, my time

805
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 3: in Portland was great, bro. I loved it, the organization,

806
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 3: the people I worked with every day. I think it

807
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 3: just got to a point where when it came to

808
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 3: going all in to win, I just felt like it

809
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 3: ran its course.

810
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 2: And you know, it just was what it was. So

811
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 2: down the stretch of that season, did they ask you

812
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 2: to sit out like towards the end.

813
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 3: We got towards the end, and it was just like,

814
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 3: you know, we got a chance to try to push

815
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 3: and get into the play in which you know we're

816
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 3: not fully healthy. Down the line, you know, we get

817
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 3: to play in do we win the playing game or

818
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 3: we get in the first round. We played the number

819
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 3: one seed, Like what does that look like for us

820
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 3: versus if we acquire a great asset and try to

821
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 3: move off from that to get a good player. You know,

822
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 3: that was kind of what the conversation was. And that

823
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 3: was that, you know, and it was like, why what

824
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 3: are you going to do? So obviously I'm a side

825
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 3: with what's the best opportunity going forward, So you know,

826
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 3: that was kind of how it came about. You know,

827
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 3: but I wasn't I could have played, you know what

828
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 3: I'm saying. How was the off season for you?

829
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: You know, you always being in a chattle when they

830
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: spoke basketball, they was speaking about, oh, you could be

831
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: at this place, so you can go to this place.

832
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: It's hot right now, everybody talking, it's low right now.

833
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody talking, but.

834
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: Just you personally having to work out and having to

835
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 1: hear your name on NBA.

836
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 2: Today every day.

837
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: It was a different summer for you than the usual summers. Yeah,

838
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: that you usually have, but this summer, how was that

839
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: like mentally for you? And getting so close to starting

840
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 1: the season with Portland and out of nowhere, It's.

841
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 2: Just the summer was.

842
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 3: I had a great summer for me, you know, I

843
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 3: spent a lot of time with my kids. I spent

844
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 3: a lot of time in my family. I traveled, you know.

845
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 3: I built the house. I moved into it. You know

846
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I have been building for a couple

847
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 3: of years. Like everything was going great. You know, I

848
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 3: just knew I was going to be traded, and I

849
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 3: just I hate to just keep talking about, you know

850
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 3: what I mean, like it it happened, it was done.

851
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,240
Speaker 3: I hate to keep talking about you know, this happened

852
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 3: and that happened. But I mean, just going through the summer,

853
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 3: I knew I was gonna be moved. They was talking

854
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 3: about it every day. I think the thing I was

855
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 3: bothered by the most was probably just everybody saying I

856
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 3: heard this, and I heard that, And I wasn't talking

857
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 3: to nobody, right, But it's like this is the way

858
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 3: this business goes typically, so everybody's going to side on

859
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 3: like this is probably what's happening, or dang, probably you

860
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 3: know said this to this person or said this to that, and.

861
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 2: I was really chilling. I was chilling.

862
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,399
Speaker 3: I didn't say nothing, you know, I was I felt

863
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 3: like the best route for me was to not address

864
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 3: nothing and talk about none of this stuff, and if

865
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,959
Speaker 3: they don't hear me say nothing, then how could all.

866
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 2: This stuff even be being said, you know what I mean?

867
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 3: But I think that's the speculation of it all in

868
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 3: the league and trying to keep the conversation going. And

869
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 3: you know, I just let it be that, and I

870
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 3: just stay quiet about it until it was time. And

871
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 3: then you know, you get close to training campus almost here,

872
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 3: and it's like all right, you know, I was like, shit,

873
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 3: I just come back whatever, you know what I mean,

874
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,439
Speaker 3: I just want to play. Yeah, and then it was shit,

875
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 3: I got traded to Milwaukee right before camp started.

876
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: Was it a sense of relief like once it was

877
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: just finally done, Like yeah, alright, so we can go

878
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: and move past that. I can get gone. Yeah, it

879
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: was definitely what.

880
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 2: I need to do.

881
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: And this sense of relief it was even though you

882
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: didn't care about it, or you didn't you didn't entertain

883
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: it or nothing like that, but just a sense of

884
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: relief to be like, all right, I know where I'm mad,

885
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 1: I know where I supposed to do. I'm coming into it,

886
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: you know, fresh mind.

887
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 3: No, it was definitely weight off my shoulders. Once you

888
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 3: get so deep into the summer, you know you got

889
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,959
Speaker 3: team activities. You playing pick up, and I don't play

890
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 3: in the summer because we play enough during the season.

891
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 3: I try to just train, get my body right. Then

892
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 3: with September hit, you get with the team, y'all, do

893
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 3: all the team stuff, start going over stuff, playing pick

894
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 3: up every day. That's how I usually play myself into

895
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 3: the season. So like this year, I didn't. I ain't

896
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 3: get to do that, so I literally my first day

897
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 3: playing was the first day of practice. So like my

898
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 3: season even right now is kind of like delayed on

899
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 3: like just my time and movement and everything because I

900
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 3: didn't get that normal build up to the season. But

901
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 3: I was just happy just to have it over with,

902
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, and know where I was

903
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 3: gonna be, know what team I was going to be on,

904
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 3: try to figure out my situation with my family and

905
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 3: how it was gonna go, you know what I'm saying.

906
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 3: And I didn't have much time at all to figure

907
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 3: that part out, but I was just happy that that

908
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 3: part was over, you know what I mean?

909
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 4: Was it being the Bucks? Was that like out of

910
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 4: the blue for you like it was for everybody else.

911
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 3: My agent had mentioned it to me prior to that

912
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 3: as an option. He was like, you know what you

913
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 3: think about this. You know, if things don't work out,

914
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 3: you know how you feel about this. I think it's

915
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 3: probably the best basketball situation for you. We talked about

916
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 3: it a couple weeks before and I was like, you know,

917
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 3: I like it. You know, if it come to that,

918
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 3: I don't know how that get done. You know, I

919
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 3: just didn't know how that would even happen, you know

920
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So I was just like whatever. You know,

921
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 3: we didn't talk about it too much, and then shit,

922
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 3: it ended up happening.

923
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 2: So I was like, you know, let's do it.

924
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: I always love like moments with your kids that they

925
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 1: get the opportunity to see a moment in their parents'

926
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: life or experience a moment for you to have your

927
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: your sons, your kids there. When you get to Milwauke

928
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: and you walk and you see all the fans, it

929
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: was see all the fans come, and you know them

930
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: are priceless and memorable moments that your kids get to see.

931
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: How was that for you to just walk in and

932
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: see the fans and you know, have your kids with

933
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: you and your family with you walking on through.

934
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 2: It was special? You know.

935
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,760
Speaker 3: I never been traded before, so I thought, you get traded,

936
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 3: you come in, do your physical and I'm sure it's

937
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 3: typically not like that for everybody. Yeah, but they told

938
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 3: me it was gonna be a rally, but I didn't

939
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:54,919
Speaker 3: know it was a rally for me only the great

940
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 3: I thought it was like today, they gonna have a

941
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 3: rally going on for the team whatever, whatever. I didn't

942
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 3: know it was all around right, everybody coming out. Yeah.

943
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 3: So when I got there, it was just kind of

944
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 3: it was crazy to walk into that and be embraced

945
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 3: like that, and then to have my kids there. You know,

946
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 3: my kids young, so they was just kind of looking around,

947
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 3: like what's going on? But it was It's an experience

948
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 3: that I wouldn't want to have without them, you know

949
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Because a lot of my purpose and

950
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 3: a lot of what I put into what I do

951
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 3: at this stage is you know, my kids is a

952
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 3: part of that, you know what I'm saying, And how

953
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 3: I I take pride in how I represent myself because

954
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 3: of how I feel about my family and how I

955
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 3: feel about my dad. So I want them to experience

956
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 3: as much of this as possible. Why they can see

957
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 3: it and understand a little bit what's going on so

958
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 3: they can have that same sense of pride about you

959
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 3: know what went into them having the kind of life

960
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 3: that they have. When you got there, they showed you

961
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 3: instantly went to the practice facility and started shooting.

962
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 2: How did them rems feel? Because it's like when they

963
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 2: showed them you went straight to the practice I'm like, damn,

964
00:42:59,320 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 2: he ain't missing.

965
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 3: It was no, it was I did the same thing

966
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 3: when I was in college. When I went on my visits,

967
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,720
Speaker 3: the first thing I want to do is just shoot,

968
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 3: like I want to see how.

969
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 2: How I feel here.

970
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, So like after we did everything, I went to

971
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 3: the practice cility, got some shots up, but it was cool.

972
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 3: I was like, man, I'm like, this is home now.

973
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 3: This is where I'm gonna be here every day. It

974
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 3: was just weird ad justin like that, you know what

975
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 3: I'm saying. When I'm used to one thing in Portland

976
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 3: and the practice cility they got the hanging baskets, and

977
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 3: I come to Milwaukee they got the stanchion still baskets

978
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 3: right there.

979
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 2: It was just different.

980
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 3: So I was like, man, I'm just trying to make

981
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 3: myself at home.

982
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 2: What was the first conversation with Yanni's like.

983
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 4: When we when I got there, yeah, after the trade,

984
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 4: then you get to the team, and like when y'all

985
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 4: get to talk to each other, what was that?

986
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 2: Like?

987
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 3: Man, I got when I got there, I got out

988
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 3: the car, I walked through the rally that they had,

989
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 3: I went into the rent and they had a little presentation,

990
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 3: and right after that, I went to the practice facility

991
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 3: to start the whole medical process and it should have

992
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 3: a soon as I got there, Jannis was walking in

993
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 3: two minutes later, and I was sitting in there talking

994
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 3: about like some physical stuff, and he just walked in

995
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 3: the office, like can I just talk to him?

996
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 2: Can I just talk to Dame for five minutes? And

997
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 2: they was like yeah, sure, you know.

998
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 3: They walked out and we sat there for like an

999
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 3: hour just talking about like this is what we need

1000
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 3: to do, you know, this is what I'm about, this

1001
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 3: is what I'm about. Like it was that type of conversation,

1002
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 3: but that was it. We talked for forty five minutes

1003
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 3: with our right there, you know, like as soon as

1004
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 3: I as soon as I got there, that's what's up.

1005
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you see Jannis.

1006
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: And it seemed like y'all got similar personality and pedigree

1007
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: when it comes to this basketball thing. You know, it's like,

1008
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: y'all look against the league, you know something.

1009
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 2: Teams don't have that chip on their shoulder like that.

1010
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: But to see that, you think about the greats you

1011
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 1: had Oscar and Kareem is the history of the Bucks.

1012
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 2: To now have, y'all, how was that?

1013
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 1: To have somebody another person, like we were just saying

1014
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 1: with CJ with similar mentality.

1015
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: Of like, yeah, we shouldna get out here and we

1016
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 2: find to kill something.

1017
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 3: Man, it's a blessing to have that because it's one

1018
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 3: thing me and c J. We both guards, yea, to

1019
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 3: have it with a for like somebody that's a forward

1020
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 3: that can pass and handle and that's like a dominant

1021
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 3: player versus me being a guard more you know, finesse

1022
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 3: and skill.

1023
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 2: And on a perimeter.

1024
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 3: Like I think that's more complimentary to the other, you know,

1025
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 3: Like when you think about a lot of other duos,

1026
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 3: it's like a big and a small that goes better together,

1027
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 3: better because they're not on top of each other. So

1028
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 3: like to not only have that, but also to have

1029
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 3: like people that are like minded, Like when I hear

1030
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 3: him talk and I see how he acts, like I

1031
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 3: already know it because I act that way feel you

1032
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like I can see his behaviors

1033
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 3: and already know what he owned.

1034
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 2: Because did y'all know each other at all before?

1035
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 4: I mean obviously playing against you that you see, Like,

1036
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 4: was it any other type of relationship like y'all cool

1037
00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 4: talking all off the court.

1038
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 3: Cool, not like we wasn't best friends all or nothing

1039
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 3: like that. But I had his phone number, you know,

1040
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 3: like we at text sometimes. Like it was a stretch

1041
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 3: where like before they won, where he was trying to

1042
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 3: get me to go to Milwaukee and I was trying to.

1043
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 2: Tell him, no, you come to Portland.

1044
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 3: And then Pat Connington who's on our team now, was

1045
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 3: my rook in Portland, and he was in Portland for

1046
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 3: like two or three years, I think three years, and

1047
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 3: then he ended up signing with Milwaukee. So when he

1048
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 3: was here, he was like the middle man. So we

1049
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 3: was in the group chat all three of us, like Pat,

1050
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 3: tell him to come here. He liked, Pat, No, tell Dame,

1051
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 3: he need to come to Milwaukee. So like it was

1052
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 3: like ongoing like that, and then I see him at

1053
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 3: All Star games and you know, shit like that, But

1054
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 3: that was really it. I'm not when you say we're similar,

1055
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 3: It's like he wasn't about to over extend hisself to

1056
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 3: tell me to do something, and I wasn't about to

1057
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 3: over extend myself to tell him like that was that?

1058
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 2: So? I mean, it just kind of it happened this.

1059
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: Way that Pick and roll y'all got this still developed

1060
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: if you bless and it's definitely still development, but it's

1061
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: gonna be a scary thing it's doing to come. Let

1062
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: me ask you this, how did the process of you

1063
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:16,280
Speaker 1: being a feature on Rick Ross and Mixed Mill first single?

1064
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 1: Like the verses is fine on the verse, you definitely

1065
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: posed to be there, but I didn't watch your rap

1066
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: career and to now have the what you want to say,

1067
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,919
Speaker 1: so called professionals, guys that really this is what they do,

1068
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 1: come to you to get the feature and want to

1069
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: put it on their single. Tell us about the process

1070
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: of that happening and how people been reacting to your verse.

1071
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 3: I mean the reaction being crazy. You know, I think

1072
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 3: when you get that type of stage and that type

1073
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 3: of platform to like really showcase what you can do

1074
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 3: in anything, even in hoop football whatever, like, but in music,

1075
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 3: I knew it was going to be a platform for

1076
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 3: me to like gain some fans, people to see like

1077
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 3: he really wrapped for real, Like I'm not gonna get

1078
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 3: on here and stand out like I couldn't hang on

1079
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 3: his record, you know. So like that was my thought

1080
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 3: process when he reached out to me. But I ran

1081
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 3: in the ross. I've known him for a while, but

1082
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 3: I ran into him in Miami, like a little bit

1083
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 3: over a year ago at my brother's a bachelor party,

1084
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 3: like his little situation. We was out in Miami. I

1085
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 3: ran into him. We was chopping it up. I was like, man,

1086
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 3: I gotta get you on my project. He was like, say,

1087
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 3: let's let's do it, you know. So we start working

1088
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 3: on the joint. He actually is on my album. So

1089
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 3: I got a verse from him on my album and

1090
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 3: basically we just did a verse for a verse, like

1091
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,439
Speaker 3: we just swapped it out like that. So he came

1092
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 3: back with the Shaq and Kobe joint and he sent

1093
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 3: it to me like, man, like this the one that

1094
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 3: I want you to, just the one I want you on.

1095
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 3: So like they sent it, I did it, and shit, now.

1096
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 2: Hit it beat because that's a hard, hard, hard beat.

1097
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 3: This real production, right, yeah, saying so like when I

1098
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 3: heard it. I just I was in the studio. I

1099
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 3: was like, usually when I'm doing my stuff, I just

1100
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 3: kind of like I just come off with it, you know,

1101
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 3: and just be writing whatever I want to write. But

1102
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 3: with that one, I was like, I'm gonna take my time,

1103
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 3: like the opportunity, I'm gonna come correct, you know what

1104
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,760
Speaker 3: I'm saying. So like that was that was cool.

1105
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 2: That's what's up. That's what's up. What's your thoughts on

1106
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 2: the end season tournament? Bro? Like, this is the.

1107
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 4: Whole new big deal the league is. The NBA is

1108
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 4: pumping it. I mean, it's a chance to get a

1109
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 4: new title in the middle of the season, like you know,

1110
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 4: I mean my thoughts on it. We all grew up,

1111
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,240
Speaker 4: you included, we all played holiday terms in high school.

1112
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 4: You play conference tournaments in college before the you know,

1113
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 4: Big Dance and all of that. So it's not that

1114
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,720
Speaker 4: far and they just never did it really in the NBA.

1115
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 4: So what's your thoughts on it?

1116
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 3: I Mean, honestly, I've still been trying to figure out

1117
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 3: exactly how it works. But I like the opportunity that

1118
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 3: it presents. You know, you're going to Vegas and men

1119
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 3: season as it provides some excitement to the NBA season

1120
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 3: and give you something else to play for. I think

1121
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 3: the highlight of it for me is I'm always looking

1122
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 3: at the type of opportunity it might present for the

1123
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 3: guys in the league that aren't max players or not

1124
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 3: you know, able to make the kind of money that

1125
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 3: we're making. So just knowing, like, man, you got two

1126
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 3: eight players, now that if you go win this tournament

1127
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 3: and you take this tournament series, these dudes get five

1128
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 3: hundred thousand. It's crazy like they get a share of that.

1129
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 3: So like that's kind of my thought process with it.

1130
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 2: But it's like.

1131
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 3: It gives you something to play for and they give

1132
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 3: some new excitement. It's kind of like the play in

1133
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 3: you know, I'm sure the ratings on the play because

1134
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 3: it's like High State.

1135
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 2: Like it's High State.

1136
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 3: You could be in there as a seventh seed and

1137
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 3: end up not in the playoffs like people want to see,

1138
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 3: like a Cinderella. It's like the NCAA tournament. It's one

1139
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 3: of those things. It's going to provide some excitement. They

1140
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 3: got a little rink on there. You're going to you're

1141
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 3: going to Vegas, and it's opportunity to you know, let

1142
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 3: guys make them make a little bit of extra money.

1143
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 2: So add another credential to your resume and it's an accomplishment.

1144
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 3: It's on the list now, like it ain't like it

1145
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 3: ain't the Larry O'Brien, but.

1146
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 2: It's an accomplishment now. I feel like now.

1147
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: They're gonna be like when you see your resume, and

1148
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: they're gonna be like playing m V.

1149
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, season tournament, I mean miss tournament or mid season MV.

1150
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 3: I mean they have to because it's a thing now.

1151
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's this.

1152
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: How do you like them changing the courts up and

1153
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: having the teams where the city jerseys and all that stuff.

1154
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 3: I mean, I like it because you can field it.

1155
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 3: It's a situation difference. Yeah, it feels it don't feel

1156
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 3: like just another night in the NBA, Like I felt

1157
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 3: that when we played our first game. I just think

1158
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 3: the designs of the courts gotta be better. Like I

1159
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 3: ain't like I think ours was cool, But some of

1160
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 3: the ones I've seen on TV, I'm like, man, some

1161
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 3: of these courts is crazy.

1162
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 4: The boy one of them was like, I was like.

1163
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 2: How you even see that the bounds line on some

1164
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 2: of these courts, Like, hey, tell me this, you the

1165
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 2: O G nine in the league. You know what I'm saying.

1166
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 2: I know it's my twelfth season. That's what I'm saying.

1167
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 4: When you're ten years in holler back then you ten

1168
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 4: plus og you got twelve years. Man, what some of

1169
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 4: these young boys you like to get you excited watching

1170
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 4: them out there because it's some young talent coming through,

1171
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 4: not like some of the young boys you like looking at.

1172
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,240
Speaker 3: Man, you know who I really like that's not a star.

1173
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 3: But like my league camp, we do like a pro

1174
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 3: camp too, with like young pros that's trying to like

1175
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 3: turn the corner. Trey Man in Oklahoma City, Oh god,

1176
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 3: he man, I don't know if it's gonna be in

1177
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:39,399
Speaker 3: Oklahoma City, But where is that Trey Man is nice?

1178
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he put on like when he get

1179
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 2: an opportunity somewhere, you get busy because they deep over.

1180
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna have to move when he get

1181
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 2: an opportunity somewhere. I'm telling you, like, dump that thing

1182
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 2: on you.

1183
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 3: He reminds me like how he do stuff and like

1184
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 3: what he's capable of. It reminds me how Annie is

1185
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 3: Like the same thing I saw in is how I

1186
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 3: saw him. You know, So I think he gonna I

1187
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 3: like Trey Man, all the young players, man, I like

1188
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 3: Key and Murray second, Yeah like you Ratchet. Yeah he

1189
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 3: got game too. Yeah he can do something.

1190
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 2: The coach trying to get him to shoot more. He should.

1191
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, he don't miss straight up.

1192
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 2: It looks nice.

1193
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously check win be like them dudes. Is

1194
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 3: for real, Like you can see it already, Shae like

1195
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 3: sha he he. It's a lot of young talent, man,

1196
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 3: like the league is full of talent. It's full of talent.

1197
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 2: Man. Let me ask you this.

1198
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 1: I seen Jannist and gave his whole team some of them.

1199
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: Know you Adidas got Where is them nikes.

1200
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 2: In your house? That? I ain't gonna lie? Man, They're

1201
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 2: still in my locker right now.

1202
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 3: I ain't took them home yet, but I just got them.

1203
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get them signed. Man, I'm gonna hang them up.

1204
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:05,240
Speaker 3: But I ain't.

1205
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I'm three stripes crossovers. Hey, man,

1206
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 2: everybody talking about them Olympics next year.

1207
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 4: Who's gonna go? And who interested? You got any interest

1208
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 4: in playing and participating in it?

1209
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1210
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 3: I got some interest in it. I mean, but you

1211
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 3: know how that stuff is you don't know who? Yeah,

1212
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 3: you know how that's gonna go. If you're gonna get

1213
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,760
Speaker 3: chosen or not. I mean, I gotta gold medal already,

1214
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 3: so I ain't sweating it too much if they call.

1215
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 3: It's definitely something I consider, But especially being away from

1216
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 3: our kids right now and being in a long season.

1217
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 3: The Olympics is time consuming. Yeah, I practices, you traveling,

1218
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 3: you're doing all that stuff. Then you go to the Olympics,

1219
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 3: like that'll just be more time away, you know, And

1220
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 3: I could bring them with me. But you know what

1221
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 3: I'm saying, I just ain't sure if that's how I

1222
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 3: want to spend my summer right now at.

1223
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 2: Least, you know what I mean. So we'll see. But

1224
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 2: it's definitely something that right now I'm open to see

1225
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 2: how this year ago. Yeah, see how I go. Man,

1226
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 2: if you go how we wanted to go, to go

1227
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 2: ahead and enjoy my supper.

1228
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 1: Who is the dream feature? Who is the feature that

1229
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: you dream of? That small opportunity to get that?

1230
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 2: Man, I gotta get it a J Cole feature. You

1231
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.

1232
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 3: I've been on cold. I've been on cold since eight

1233
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:23,479
Speaker 3: oh nine. You know what I'm saying, I was telling

1234
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 3: my college roommates about Ja Cole so like and this

1235
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 3: before this, the warm up. This is before Friday Night Lights,

1236
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 3: before all that, like before he this when he was

1237
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 3: barely featured on on a blueprint when he got on

1238
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 3: the Stars Born. So like, I gotta get the Cold feature,

1239
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 3: and I gotta get it. I gotta get a Drake

1240
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 3: joint too.

1241
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. Cold is killing every verse he touching right now.

1242
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 3: You know, I gotta get I gotta get Cold, I

1243
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 3: gotta get Drake Man, and I gotta get I gotta

1244
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 3: get Kendrick at some point too.

1245
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 2: That's just for the West Coast, man.

1246
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 3: I think I feel like where I am like listening

1247
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 3: to Kendrick, I feel like I'm I'm in that type

1248
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 3: of space that he you know what I'm saying personally,

1249
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 3: So I gotta get those Yeah.

1250
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 2: Y'all hear that, man? Yeah, we gotta here on the boards.

1251
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 4: How Like, you know, athletes in general, you know what

1252
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 4: I'm saying, they struggle to get to kind of like

1253
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 4: respect when they try to do music, whether it's rapping

1254
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 4: or whatever. I feel like you get that respect, you

1255
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Clearly, you getting features and the

1256
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 4: rap artists are asking you to be on the album.

1257
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 4: So how do that feel for you to you know

1258
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, to get that respect and not be

1259
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 4: looked at it like man, he going he just you

1260
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, doing it because he got money,

1261
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 4: or he like you really like get down and you

1262
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 4: get busy and like you really get that respect.

1263
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 2: How that feel?

1264
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 3: No, it's a good feeling because you a lot of

1265
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 3: times in music when you're an athlete, they don't respect

1266
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:45,280
Speaker 3: it because sometimes the facts is it do be corny,

1267
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 3: Like a lot of stuff just be corny, and it'd

1268
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 3: be weak sometimes not everybody obviously, but it be weak.

1269
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 3: Like I've heard a lot of weak stuff. But I

1270
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:55,919
Speaker 3: think what it comes down to is like the same

1271
00:56:55,960 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 3: way we play AAU and go to college and do

1272
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 3: all this stuff, and we put a lot into us

1273
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 3: having what we have as NBA players, so we gotta

1274
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 3: respect it as artists. They like, you got to put

1275
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 3: in what we put it for us to respect it.

1276
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 3: So I think it's also respected because I kind of

1277
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:15,879
Speaker 3: I approached it like any other artists. I ain't say

1278
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,919
Speaker 3: I'm dam Lillard, I'm dropping something like I started off

1279
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 3: four bar Friday on Instagram. I did that for a

1280
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 3: couple of years. I start dropping freestyles every Monday. This

1281
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 3: is like twenty fifteen. I'm dropping freestyles every week SoundCloud.

1282
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 3: Then I went to SoundCloud. Then I put an album out,

1283
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 3: Then I put another album out, Like I just put

1284
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 3: my fifth album out.

1285
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1286
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 3: I'm doing shows, I'm doing all this stuff. I'm in

1287
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 3: studios with people. So like all these producers, I kind

1288
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 3: of took the steps the same way I took the

1289
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 3: steps as a as an athlete. Like I got mixtapes

1290
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 3: brouh from eight Like after college. When I get out

1291
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 3: of school, I'm going home doing mixtapes, like putting them out.

1292
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 3: Like in high school when we came out and did

1293
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 3: lay up lines. We came out to our own music,

1294
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 3: like we warmed up to our own music. So it's

1295
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 3: like this ain't I put time into it, and I

1296
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 3: think they can hear it. You know what I'm saying,

1297
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 3: They can tell the same way. I'm a student of

1298
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 3: the game and hoop. I'm a student of the game

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00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 3: in hip hop. I respect the game, you know what

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00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 3: I mean.

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00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 1: How does it feel to have like us as basketball

1302
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 1: players a lot of these gms or coaches or whatever.

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00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: They won't accept the other thing that you do, Like

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00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: you're doing music, but.

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00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 2: Now like you're known, it'd be like nah, nah, not.

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00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 1: Only you a hooper and you all start top seventy five,

1307
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: but like you really are a rapper too, that's part

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00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: of your makeup, and they accept it and they're not

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00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: like frowning on it.

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00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 2: Like I think it's man.

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00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 3: I respect that stance, you know, from them, Like we're

1312
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 3: giving these dudes more money than we ever giving players now,

1313
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 3: like we need y'all to keep this first.

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00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 2: And I think.

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Speaker 3: It's never gotten a way of me performing, you know,

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00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 3: as a basketball player. So I think I've always kept

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00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 3: the first thing first, Like I don't not train, I

1318
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 3: don't not show up, I don't skip no steps when

1319
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 3: it comes to who Like I'm always there, you know,

1320
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 3: I come correct, you know when I come to work

1321
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 3: every day in games in a practice facility, how I

1322
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,919
Speaker 3: deal with people like I do it how you would

1323
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 3: want somebody to do it that you're paying two hundred

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00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 3: million dollars from a performing standpoint and a character standpoint,

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00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 3: So like as long as I'm doing that, you know,

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00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 3: then what I'm doing with my music is not a distraction.

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00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 3: And I also didn't just come in the league and

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00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,919
Speaker 3: just start dropping shit. Yeah, like I was. I didn't

1329
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 3: put no music out until I was a two time

1330
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 3: All Star already, Like I was all NBA already, I

1331
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 3: was twenty four, but I had already came in and established.

1332
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 2: Myself and show you know what I'm saying.

1333
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 3: And I didn't stop after that, even when I started

1334
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 3: putting music up.

1335
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: So what is something you and Gianni's have to do

1336
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 1: to get that ultimate goal of a championship?

1337
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 2: What is something this early season that.

1338
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: You seeing that like, yeah, this is something that I

1339
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: gotta do or me and Janna's gotta do to kind

1340
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 1: of just get towards their goal of winning it all.

1341
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 3: We both like He's always had to put his foot

1342
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 3: down in Milwaukee and kind of lead the charge and

1343
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 3: be kind of like the man to push it forward.

1344
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 3: And I've always been that way in Portland. And I

1345
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 3: think now that we together, we both got to look

1346
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 3: over and say, this is a top seventy five player too,

1347
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 3: and I gotta trust him to carry this with me,

1348
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 3: you know. I think we both got to do that,

1349
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 3: and we both got to be able to do, like

1350
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 3: how it's saying.

1351
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 2: With me and CJ.

1352
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 3: We had looked at each other and be like, I

1353
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 3: ain't gonna take nothing you say to me personal, right,

1354
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 3: and don't take nothing I say to you personal. Just

1355
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 3: know that I'm I'm your biggest cheerleader, bro, and I'm

1356
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 3: I'm a champion you at all times like all, I'm

1357
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 3: gonna be behind you. Like and when he said that

1358
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 3: to me, I believed him. So it was times where

1359
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 3: she it be like.

1360
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 2: Dep what the fuck you doing? Blah blah blah.

1361
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 3: I didn't care if it was in front of fans.

1362
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 3: I didn't care if it was in front of the

1363
01:00:56,840 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 3: team nothing. Because he might give me a right back

1364
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 3: home after practice. We're gonna be in the car like

1365
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 3: it's regular. So like me and him got to be

1366
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 3: able to hold each other accountable. And that don't mean

1367
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 3: yelling at each other all the time, just me and like,

1368
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 3: I gotta be able to say something to you and

1369
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 3: you gotta be able to say something to me at

1370
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 3: all times, you know what I'm saying.

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01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 2: So I think we got to have those two things.

1372
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 3: On a high level, and after that we gotta shot them.

1373
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: We got a shot so far in your career, you

1374
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 1: had a bunch of teammates. If you can pick four

1375
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 1: other teammates to build a whole all time team, who

1376
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 1: would be the other four teammates? You will roll with

1377
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 1: my four teammates, So me plus four people plus four

1378
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 1: people you didn't play in my whole whole career you

1379
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 1: didn't play with.

1380
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 2: That's been your teammate.

1381
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go me Mellow, Jannis CJ.

1382
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 2: And LaMarcus Ardrige.

1383
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 4: Damn, that's one right that See, it's gonna be an

1384
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 4: We're gonna have me, CJ, Mello, Jannis, l A, all

1385
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 4: they in the bracket.

1386
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 2: That's gonna be something that's crazy. That's a five yea.

1387
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 1: How was it to remake Space Jam and do it

1388
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 1: with Lebron with the players that he chose to do it,

1389
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 1: and and your character in it and too?

1390
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 2: How was it for you know? They was tripping.

1391
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 3: My son was tripping, Like when we filmed it, he

1392
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 3: was too young to even know. But by the time

1393
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 3: they came out and I sat there and watched it

1394
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 3: with him, he was like wait, like he was trying

1395
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 3: to He was like, that's you like in the movie.

1396
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 2: I was like, that's me. I did that, like I'm

1397
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 2: a too.

1398
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 3: It was just funny because I was talking about the

1399
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 3: music thing too, like I had a chance to be

1400
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 3: in the movie. And I'm also on the soundtrack too,

1401
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 3: like they put me on the soundtrack, like my character

1402
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 3: had a whole spin on Dame time, Like I had

1403
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 3: a real moment in the movie. So it was cool,

1404
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 3: and it was just cool to kick it with everybody,

1405
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, like Dianna Tarassi, Boomercas Clay,

1406
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:08,919
Speaker 3: like everybody was there.

1407
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 2: It was cool, Brian, it was cool.

1408
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 3: Like we had a moment at like a little All

1409
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 3: Star game scene where they didn't really give us a script.

1410
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 2: It was just like y'all, it was like, all right,

1411
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 2: let's do this.

1412
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 3: And I was like, y'all gonna laugh, but I'm gonna

1413
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 3: have my moment like in this scene, like I'm saying

1414
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 3: something and everybody was kind of being quiet. I was like, man,

1415
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 3: I'm fineling. I'm finna get me some camera time.

1416
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 1: So we grew up watching I'm Gonna Get You on

1417
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 1: Space Jam with Michael Jordan to be able to push

1418
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 1: the legacy of that verd Or like your kids gonna

1419
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 1: watch that all the time for.

1420
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 2: Years and years and years. Sure.

1421
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 3: I mean I'm a person that I always think is

1422
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 3: hard to match, like the original of anything, because it

1423
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 3: just you can look back at some original things and

1424
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 3: be like, man, that was kind of trash, but the

1425
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 3: impact of it when it was, when it was new,

1426
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 3: it just can't be surpassed. So like, you know, I

1427
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 3: thought about that a little it but for me it

1428
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 3: was just like I'm in the new Space Jam movie,

1429
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 3: like this is gonna be everywhere. You gotta do it,

1430
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 3: bron Like, you gotta do it. It's a great opportunity.

1431
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 3: I love it for myself, I love it for everybody

1432
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 3: in it. And my kids gonna like they gonna be

1433
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:16,439
Speaker 3: glued to the screen when they watch this and even

1434
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 3: when they figure out that this is me is gonna

1435
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 3: be even even better.

1436
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 1: So it's not the original, but it's a great They

1437
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 1: did a great Yeah, they did. Like I didn't watch

1438
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 1: that movie more than one time, and it's it's today's

1439
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 1: you know, the erring change is more technology different, Like

1440
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 1: I actually I loved that movie.

1441
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 2: So you did a great jobs. Apreciated on that.

1442
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 4: Appreciate it, man, We appreciate you pulling up man. You

1443
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 4: a two time offender that man. You know what I'm

1444
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 4: saying back.

1445
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying time back with the Knuckleheads man,

1446
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:47,080
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1447
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:53,320
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