1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to stuff you should know 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: from how stuff works dot Com. The future of our 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: planet depends on the forward thinkers among us. Green technology, 5 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: the power of community, and the future of our planet 6 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: are things we can change together. Visit how stuff works 7 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: dot com and search Forward Thinking to join the movement. Hi, 8 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Chuck Bryant. Chuck, 9 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: are you falling sleep? Buddy? Meditating? It's the morning. This 10 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: is not our usual time to record, so I'm very 11 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: curious to see just how much worse than usual this 12 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: one through. But it is Friday morning, is it? You 13 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: know me? I'm big on the Friday recording. It's Friday 14 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: short stay again. I know Chuck looks like a straight 15 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: up summer babe, ye call them, but his legs look 16 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: like milk bottles. A good thing. Pretty white Okay, Yeah 17 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: I thought you meant the curvature. Okay, the white notes. 18 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, no, they look at it. It only slathers 19 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: me with some block because I'm not allowed to beatan anymore. 20 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: Do you have to wear like one of those big 21 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: sun hats when you go out. I do. My dad 22 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: dresses like that. He dresses like he's afraid of stars 23 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: or something. He puts on a big old hat and 24 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: a little surgical mask the lawn and oh yeah, it's awesome. 25 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: He gets very androgynous when he's mowing the lawn. Okay, 26 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: it's weird, Chuck. We got a package recently that I 27 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: would like you to describe, Josh. This is Dare I say, 28 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: one of the cooler promotional items I've ever seen from 29 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: a company. Agreed, Yeah, this is from our parent company, Discovery. 30 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: And what they did was they sent out to promote 31 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: their Shark Week, which, as everyone knows, is huge. It is. 32 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: Have you ever seen the shark gun the building at 33 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: a Discovery HQ and describing, Well, it's a pretty standard 34 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: looking building normally, but around Shark Week time they have 35 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: a giant shark head coming on the building on one 36 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: side and a giant shark tail coming out on the 37 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: other and I suspect a giant shark fin coming out 38 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: of the top and on the sides. It looks awesome. 39 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: It's pretty cool. Actually, you can google that if you're 40 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: interested in looking at that. I think if you like 41 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: to look up Discovery headquarters Shark weeken shore, you can 42 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: find pictures and talking. I know a little bit about sharks. 43 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: We've written tons of articles on him around Shark Week, 44 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: many many, And so what they sent out was it's 45 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: a jar art directed to look like an old beat 46 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: up jar short that may have washed up on shore. 47 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: And inside we were surprised to first find a pair 48 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: of chewed up beat shorts, bloody, blood stained beat shorts. 49 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: And we've been warned that they were gonna smell. They 50 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: didn't in fact smell right, They did not smell like 51 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: death or gore. We got this cool giant shark tooth 52 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: with a on a little key chain. We got another 53 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: little another little floaty keychain with is an O bit 54 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: in there the obituaries, an obituary type as if it 55 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: was from an old newspaper of Chief Martin Brody from 56 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: Jaws Fame. And one of our marketing people, sam A Dorno, 57 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: found that her O bit turned up in one of 58 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: the marketing packages to scanning her own death notice on 59 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: the date of her funeral. Interesting, yeah, he's lovely in fetching, 60 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: sam A Dorna, and uh so, yeah, they sent out 61 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: all this stuff and basically it's they sent him to 62 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: just different companies and media outlets around the country. They 63 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: did it anonymously, right it was. That's yeah, that's the 64 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: trick is you don't really know what it is. You 65 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: just get this suspicious package that I never would have 66 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: opened had I not known where it was from, to 67 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: be honest, it would have frightened me. It is pretty cool, 68 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: but yeah, it is really cool, good idea, but it 69 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: directs you to go to frenzied waters dot com, right, yeah, 70 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: and the cool stuff on that thanks in part to 71 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: our own Mr Chuck Bryant, who helped come up with 72 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: some aspects of this marketing campaign. Didn't you. I mean, 73 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: what don't you do, Chuck? I do it all due, 74 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: Yeah you do. You wear many hats and each one 75 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: is more fetching than the last. Yeah. I did the 76 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: the fake diary thing from the shark attacks of nineteen sixteen, 77 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: and I'm really excited. It's it's an awesome, cool thing 78 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: to work on. And our our sisters in arms over 79 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: at us Stuffy missed in history class. I think they 80 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: just recorded one, right, um, the shark attacks of nineteen sixteen, 81 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: which really happened. Yeah, it was a great story. I 82 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: was a little jealous I got to do that one. 83 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: But is that why you haven't been talking to either 84 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: of them? I know I've boycotted them. Yeah. Well we 85 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: happen to do something pretty cool recently, So back to us. Yeah, 86 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: it's always about us, um and uh, that is that 87 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: we swam with whale sharks, among many other types of 88 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: fish and sharks and skates and rays. Yeah, that manor 89 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: ray was huge. We we swam with the manaray that 90 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: was at least the size of me yr Chuck. Yeah, 91 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: I mean it looked the wingspan had to be, uh 92 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 1: six or eight feet across. It was a big, big boy. 93 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: Very cool. The big attraction this is at the Georgia Aquium, 94 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: the bigger track and those definitely the whale sharks, which 95 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: were I think sixteen two I think was the female was. Yeah, 96 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: and you know what that was. It was a noticeable 97 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 1: difference when that female came by. That's the coolest thing 98 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: I've ever had the opportunity to do. Yeah, so let's 99 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: let's talk about whale sharks. We'll talk about swimming with 100 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 1: them a little more in a little more detail. But 101 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: Chuck tell me about whales sharks. And this is based 102 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 1: on an article on how stuff works dot com that 103 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: you wrote. Indeed, you are the whale shark expert. You 104 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: spank me whenever we get into whale shark trivia and 105 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: I stalk off crime, which is all the time. Yeah. 106 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, let's talk about the whale shark. Everyone knows 107 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: that it is the largest fish in the sea. I 108 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: didn't know that, which also makes it the largest shark 109 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: h in the sea. And some of these can reportedly 110 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: grow to over sixty feet dude, which is like twenty 111 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 1: ft longer than a full size school bus. Can you 112 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: imagine seeing one the largest one we saw the other day? 113 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: Can you imagine one three times that size? Yeah? I 114 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: can't either. No, I mean it's just mammoth. One of 115 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: the other things that I noticed when we were swimming 116 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: with them that I just found amazing. You remember the 117 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: one right before we got out of the tank. Yes, 118 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: I think it was the female. She was swimming right 119 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: towards me and then dipped right below me and came 120 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: within centimeters touching me, But at no point did she 121 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: touch me, So they apparently have some really great sense 122 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: of kinetics. Yeah, knowing exactly where every part of their 123 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: body is in relation to other things, because I don't 124 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: understand how it didn't brush against me. Yeah, we have 125 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: a couple of times we had him swim kind of 126 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: right under us. We were we didn't do a scuba dive, 127 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: which just so people know we're up up top, but 128 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: with a scuba tank and mask, and they would they 129 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: swam right under us, and I turned around to look 130 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: and I would see that big tail coming at me, 131 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: the big dorsal fin, and I just knew it was 132 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: gonna smack me on the way by, but it just 133 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: it never did went right on. So they're huge, and 134 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: they do appear kind of lumbering, but really they're super graceful. Yeah, 135 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: they're very cool. And they're cool looking too. And there 136 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 1: were hammer heads in there too, There were I was 137 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: a little nervous hammer heads were kind of eyeing us. Yeah, 138 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 1: they kind of stayed download that, which is good. But 139 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: it turned out to be the grouper who is the 140 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 1: big threat, right. Yeah, the grouper was cool looking because 141 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: it was I mean, a grouper just looks like fish. 142 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: If you look up fish, it just looks like a fish. 143 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: Like you had seen a little small tank, but it 144 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: was three hundred pounds. It looked like some land of 145 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: the Lost giant fish, and it was undergoing a sexual 146 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: transformation like Headwig and the angry inch right. Um. Apparently 147 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: when they turned about twenty five or so, they go 148 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: all hermaphrodite and um change sex, and apparently it's not 149 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: a pleasant process. So we had a grumpy grouper in 150 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: there who was in a tank with different kinds of 151 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: sharks rays. It was actually the biggest threat to us 152 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: in that tank. Hard to believe. They said, it's the 153 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: jaw could break your arm down. Pounds of anything can 154 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: break your arm. So back to the whale shark. Um. 155 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: The whale shark lives in warm ocean waters pretty much 156 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: everywhere where it's warm, except the Mediterranean exactly, which I 157 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: thought was a little It is a little odd. I'd 158 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: want to hang out in the Mediterranean if I was 159 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: a whale shark. And they're starting to migrate in in 160 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: new and surprising places, like they anytime they pop up. 161 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: I was reading an article they popped up um off 162 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: the coast of Mississippi, Louisiana. Actually I'm sorry, UM. And 163 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: some guy who spotted him was a commercial fisherman and 164 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: they were hanging around. Uh and within like several hours 165 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: or a day, his commercial fishing vessel was suddenly a 166 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: research vessel. All these scientists flew down and chartered his 167 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: boat and went out there. He took him out there 168 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: to to study them because we know so little about him, right, Yeah, 169 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: for the most part, they're starting to learn though, since 170 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: we may able to keep them in captivity, they're learning 171 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: a lot more. As Chris Coco are are host and 172 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: shark expert at the aquarium. Yeah, and Chuck and I 173 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: aren't um immune to the arguments about zoology and keeping 174 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: animals in captivity or the whole concept of a zoo. Um. 175 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: You know, I definitely see both sides of the argument. 176 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: But Chris Coco was able to produce um some evidence 177 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: that this exhibit at the Georgia Aquarium. And I think 178 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: they're the only whale sharks in the Western Hemisphere in captivity, right, Yeah, 179 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: you can find them in Japan and then fifteen minutes 180 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: down the road from where we are. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Right. 181 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 1: So Chris said that they had gotten their whale sharks 182 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: from Taiwan, which is like the whale shark fishing capital 183 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: of the world. I think they consume the most whale 184 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: shark meat of any country in the world as well. UM. 185 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: But since that exhibit opened UH and they formed a 186 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: relationship with Taiwan, Taiwan's kill quota went from I think 187 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: a couple hundred a year for each individual to zero. 188 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: And one of the reasons why is um they were 189 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: able to show that if you if you allow a 190 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 1: whale shark to live, if you kill a whale shark 191 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: in Taiwan, I read that fishermen would get about ten 192 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: kilograms a pound or ten cents of kilogram. That was 193 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 1: the non conversion ten cents of kilogram for a whale 194 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: shark me, which is kind of substantial, but really not 195 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: so much. In India they get something like four thousand 196 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: dollars a whale shark. UM A lot of money, it is, 197 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: but that's it. That's all you made off of that 198 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 1: whale shark, regardless of the size, right, Okay, but at 199 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 1: the same time you've killed it, you can only make 200 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: money off of it. It's sale once. Thanks to the 201 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: burgeoning UM I guess sector of eco tourism, people are 202 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: starting to figure out that you can make money over 203 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: and over and over again off of a single whale 204 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: shark through eco tourism, right because you know we what 205 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: we did when we swam at the Georgia Aquarium. Anybody 206 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: can do for like I think two bucks or whatever 207 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: and for full scuba diving um and Georgia Aquarium is 208 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: not the only place to do it. I mean you 209 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: can do it out in the wild and people are 210 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 1: realizing that you can make a ton of money off 211 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 1: of it. I think the Australia Conservation Union as demated 212 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: that the value, the annual value of each whale shark 213 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: is somewhere in the neighborhood of hundred and eighty two 214 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: or two two thousand dollars, and we're talking. You know, 215 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: some of the economies where whale sharks hang out are 216 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: not the richest in the world, so you know, they 217 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: can generate serious income if these these local economies can 218 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: figure out how to really most efficiently shift from whale 219 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: shark fishing to eco tourism and finning, which is gross. Yeah, 220 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: shark finning for those who don't know, shark fin soup 221 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: is a delicacy in certain parts of the world, and 222 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: shark finning literally means you pull the shark up on 223 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: your boat. Sometimes not even sometimes they do it from 224 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: the water, dude, and cut the fins off and throw 225 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: it back in the water, or just keep it in 226 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: the water where the shark dies and that's it. That's 227 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: the only part they use is to fin well. They 228 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: bleed to death, yes, awful. And they also without their 229 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: their fin they lose any um way of navigation, so 230 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: they're just kind of drifting about bleeding to death. It's 231 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: not a not a nice death. And we should also 232 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: say to that um. The whale shark doesn't reach reproductive 233 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: age until they think about twenty five or thirty years, 234 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: So the problem is, like a lot of animals who 235 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: have a late reproductive cycle, you kill them before that time, 236 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: and what's gonna happen. They're not gonna have shark pups. 237 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 1: It has a huge, huge impact done on the species 238 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 1: big time, because they have up to like two and 239 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: three hundred pups at a time. So you're every shark 240 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: you kill before that age, you're shorting two or three 241 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: hundred potential sharks. And its biggest predator obviously is the human. Yeah, absolutely, 242 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: it's the biggest fishing to see, there's not a lot 243 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: of comers to take on, you know, a whale shark, 244 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: which is funny because they're so peaceful and gentle. They 245 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: really are um and their diet is actually really really light. Yeah, 246 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 1: let's talk about that. That's cool. Okay. So they are 247 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: filter feeders, right. Uh. They generally just eat plankton, which 248 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: is really tiny, nearly microscopic um plant an animal life 249 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: just kind of is suspended in the ocean. They're also 250 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: surface dwellers, which is where the plankton is, and krill too, 251 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: which are like teeny little shrimps and actual little shrimp 252 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 1: as well. Uh. And in captivity, they also love dog food. 253 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: It looked like remember those little brown cubes of nastiness 254 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: they're feeding it. Yeah, that was a gelatine mixture that 255 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: they made their dequarian. But for their size, you know, 256 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: they actually don't eat a lot right at once, but 257 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: they eat constantly out in the wild, right, It's all 258 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: they do. So they're they're drifting along with their mouth 259 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: open pretty much, and the plankton goes in right like 260 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: a little vacuum. Huh. And then whatever can't get out 261 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: of the gills get stuck there. And what do they 262 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: do chuck. Well, they the gills actually as like a 263 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: like a strainer, so the water goes out and then 264 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: they're the algae and the krill and everything or in 265 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: the mouth. And don't they cough? And they cough it 266 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 1: like they howk up a bunch of planktons. Oh yeah, 267 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: if they if it's too big, if I think two centimeters, 268 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: anything over two centimeters, they'll hack back up and spit out. 269 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: And I did ask, actually Gus ask Chris at the aquarium, like, 270 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: when you're feeding these guys, do they did one of 271 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: these other fish because the other fish kind of hang 272 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,599 Speaker 1: out to try and get little leftovers. Yeah. Remember, And 273 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: I was like, do you ever see one of the 274 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: bigger fish accidentally get sucked in this huge mouth? He said, yeah, 275 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: that's happened a couple of times, and they pretty much 276 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: cough it peck out really quickly. And he said that 277 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: swims out of the fish is expelled it about twice 278 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: the speed it was originally going in. I really wanted 279 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: to see that. I didn't, Yeah, because you know, fish 280 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: make funny faces when they're scared. So we have figured 281 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: out some stuff about whale sharks um just from the 282 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: few studies that have been able to be conducted. I 283 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: read an estimate Chuck that there was like five hundred 284 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: thousand and estimated five hundred thousand in the wild, which 285 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: is really really low. Yeah, especially considering that millions of 286 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: sharks are killed each year recreationally. Millions, dude, millions. The 287 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: highest estimate I saw was a hundred million. The in 288 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: the media and I think was about thirty million. Sad, 289 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: but yeah, if there's five hundred thousand of you and 290 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: people are indiscriminately killing sharks and you're in trouble, yeah, 291 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: well their listed is vulnerable by the World Conservation Union, 292 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: so that's no good. But what we have figured out 293 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: for a long time, they thought that whale sharks actually 294 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: laid eggs, right, yeah, which is not the case. Now 295 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: they have pups they do um. I think in female 296 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: whale shark was killed and they cut her open and 297 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: found three hundred well shark pups sixteen. I bet that 298 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: is one of the cutest things you've ever seen, dead 299 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: whale shark pups. No, well, it's it's funny. Yeah, I 300 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: forgot the fact that the fact that they were dead, 301 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: that's under pretty insensitive. I would just say, like a 302 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: two ft whale shark pup would be really cute alive, 303 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure, because they're pretty cute. Twenty ft they are. Yeah, 304 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: they they have their mouths are at the front of 305 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: their face, not under the unusual flash shark yeah usually, 306 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: and it's just this big, wide, narrow, gaping mall. Yeah, 307 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: a big square head really, and their eyes are real 308 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: tiny and kind of on the side, and they're just 309 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: they're cute, they're big. You just want to cuddle with them. 310 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: I know, I really wanted to touch one and kind 311 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: of give it a hug, but they said, uh, and 312 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: we'll actually talk about this when you're swimming with the 313 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: fish in the wild. It's called a soft encounter. Yeah, 314 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: So basically, you want to be a you want to watch, 315 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: you don't want to be a participant. Well, anytime they 316 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: got nearest, we had to like lay flat and still 317 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: and just let them pass by and let him check 318 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: us out. Pretty cool, yeah, but they're they're whale sharks. 319 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: Aren't the only things that you can have a soft 320 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: encounter with, right, We can have a soft encounter with you, 321 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: big boy. It would be super soft encounter. Even our 322 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: producer Jerry got in on that, Yes, you can also 323 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: swim with humpback whales. It's pretty popular. Um in the 324 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: Dominican Republic and the South Pacific island of Ponga, you 325 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: can swim with humpback whales, another docile creature and chuck. Actually, 326 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: there's a there's a place in the Philippines that has 327 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 1: become kind of a hot spot for um soft encounters, 328 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: soft in water encounters. Right, soft encounter cracks me up 329 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: so much, it is kind of funny. Um. And that's 330 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: a doncile Philippines right right. They were really the kind 331 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: of the first to get on board with the soft 332 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: encounter eco tourism thing. Um, and they've kind of provided 333 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: a model for everybody else. Absolutely. You know another creature 334 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: that people like swimming with, but it doesn't usually work out. Dolphins. 335 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: People love dolphins. Well, yeah, you said in another article 336 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: that you wrote, um, what was the name of it? 337 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: What sea creatures can you swim with? Yeah? That that 338 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: you would think that, you know, you just hang onto 339 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: the dolphins fin and go for a ride and maybe 340 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: it would let you, But all of a sudden you'd 341 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 1: find that you were going really fast and if the 342 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: dolphin wanted to dive really deep and you would be 343 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: in some serious trouble. Yeah, dolphins are fun, but there's 344 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 1: no way you're gonna do the flipper thing and hang 345 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 1: on and take a little ride. Plus also they're deadly 346 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 1: deadly creatures. Are they hate humans? Dolphins? Now? I thought 347 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: they like people. You're josh and they're all about the 348 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: soft encounter. Um, there is another side of the coin here. 349 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: You can also swim with sea lions by the way, 350 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: and sting rays, ah and seals here and there, Like 351 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: in the UK you can swim with seals. But there 352 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: is another side to this which a lot of wildlife 353 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: experts kind of decry this whole practice, and they say 354 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: you shouldn't be able to do this at sea world. 355 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: You shouldn't do this in the wild because when you 356 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: swim with sharks like um, the small reef sharks and 357 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: things will chum the water. They say that disrupts their 358 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: feeding cycle and just being humans being around them basically 359 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: says disrupts their whole uh underwater system they got going there? 360 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, definitely. I mean think about we're we're all 361 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: pretty much lousy with swine flu these days. You don't 362 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: need to that into their environment. It's terrible, So there 363 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: are two sides to the coin. I mean, it's good 364 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: for a lot of these places. It's a big part 365 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: of their uh, their income as a country. You know 366 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 1: a lot of these places are poor. You know, they're 367 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: not like swimming off the coast of Abitha or anything 368 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: like that. No, like Philippines not necessarily the wealthiest country 369 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: in the world. Yeah, so they could use the money. Um, 370 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: where do you fall What do you think of eco 371 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: tourism versus the butchering of sharks? Well, no, no, no no, 372 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: I mean I mean just period, like should they be 373 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: completely left alone or should this stuff be allowed? I'm 374 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: curious because I still don't know what to think. I 375 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: think you can learn a lot, but who knows if 376 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: there's any damage being done. Well. Yeah, Also in the 377 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 1: other problems you posted about, um, the French tourism board 378 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: asking Parisians to smile at the tourist swine recently, right, 379 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: I mean, there are a lot of yokels out there 380 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: who would love to just maybe get in a slap 381 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: fight with the seal or something like that. Um, so 382 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: there's always that danger. But again, I think if it's 383 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 1: the if it's the choice between making money, you have 384 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: to make money. Humans have to make money, and if 385 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: you're a coastal economy, you're gonna make money off of 386 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: the sea. So you're gonna make money off of the 387 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: seat through conservation that eco tourism can provide, or you're 388 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: gonna do it by catching and killing whale sharks for 389 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: their fits. Right, That's clearly the choice is obvious, and 390 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: there's but there's also more sustainable ways that you can 391 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: carry out ecotourism as well. And I think that since 392 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: it's such a new embudding economic sector, we don't really 393 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 1: fully know how to do that yet, but I think 394 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: it's good that that's the direction we're moving it. Yeah, 395 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: that's that's my final judgment. What I want to do 396 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: now is uh, and I now I kept you because 397 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: you're scuba certified. Apologize again, don't worry about it. I 398 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: kept you from scuba diving because I could not scuba 399 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: dive and we both had to stay together. Uh, that's 400 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 1: my next goal. I want to get down there because 401 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: we got some of the we got the big the 402 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: whale shark, and we got some of the smaller fish 403 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: checking us out. But I wanted to get down there 404 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: with the sharks. The hammer head and the reef shark 405 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: What did you think about breathing underwater? Though? How cool? 406 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: Is that? Pretty cool? When you're actually completely submerged and 407 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 1: you're pretty cool underwater. It's it's the most amazing thing ever. Yeah, 408 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: but it wore me out. We talked about that. I 409 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: was exhausted, were totally wiped for the rest of the 410 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 1: And it wasn't just the bacon cheeseburger and chicken fingers 411 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: we each had for lunch afterward. It was definitely the 412 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: compressed air has an effect. But it's still pretty cool hobby, 413 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: albeit probably the most expensive one around aside from maybe 414 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: private private piloting. Yeah, I would say that's expensive to 415 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 1: I got one more thing for the whale sharks for you. 416 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: What you got? So? India is a huge um whale 417 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: shark fishing capital. And uh, there was a holy man 418 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: named um Murari Bapu who a couple of years back 419 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: was visiting Vera Belle, India, which is a coastal town. 420 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: And Um he waded out into the water and saw 421 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: a whale shark caught in a net and he blessed 422 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: it and said that he would like to see this 423 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: whale shark freed and left alone. And this really bustling 424 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 1: whale shark capital suddenly its whale shark fishing dropped off completely, 425 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: and the local government had been trying to prevent whale 426 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: shark fishing for years to no avail. This guy goes 427 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: out there blesses a whale shark, and all of a sudden, 428 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 1: they don't whale shark out there anymore. Huh. Yeah, so 429 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: maybe we could get al gore in a robe or something. 430 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: And yeah, I don't know how much credit he would 431 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: get and say Louisiana, but he's he's working his magic 432 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 1: in India sportsman's paradise. So go bapoo, thank you. I 433 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: had a soft encounter with him. That's it for whale sharks. 434 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: And uh, we would like to go ahead and tell 435 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: you to head on over to Frenzied waters dot com 436 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 1: that has Mr Chuck Bryant and some of our other 437 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 1: staffers from how Stuff Works dot COM's work um on 438 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: that site. You can also check out shark week dot 439 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 1: com for a bunch of stuff on the internet for 440 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: Shark Week, and if you're too lazy to type, you 441 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 1: can just watch Shark Week on Discovery Channel from August 442 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: second to eight yeah, and watch Blood in the Water. 443 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: That's the show they did about the UH nineteen sixteen 444 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: and tax in New Jersey. It's really cool. I watched it. 445 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, good. And if you want to see the 446 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 1: picture of Josher's and I with the whale sharks, I 447 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: put one up in the blog. Yeah. What was the 448 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: name of the post. I believe it was Josh and 449 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: Chuck swim with Sharks appropriately enough, Yes, I should have 450 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: been Josh and Chuck has soft Encounter, but that would 451 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: have been a different picture altogether. You can find that 452 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 1: and actually you can also find some really nice articles 453 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: that Chuck Bryant wrote on sharks in general on how 454 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: stuff Works dot com. And Molly Edmonds she wrote a 455 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: lot of them. Sure so did Toothman. Yeah. Um, you 456 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 1: can find those on how stuff Works dot com. And 457 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: since I just said that word together, that means it's 458 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: time for a listener man, right, Okay, Josh, I'm just 459 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: gonna call this one uh toxo listener mail. And I knew, 460 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: dude that when we did the taxo plasmosis, that we 461 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: would have one person that says, I've got it and 462 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: here's what it's like. Well, technically, of the people who 463 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 1: write and should say that they have it. Yeah, but 464 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: this guy like, all right, just let me read it 465 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: to you. This is from Josh. Is this my life 466 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: as a taxo fetus? Just listen to your toxoplasmosis podcast 467 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: and blew my mind, Or maybe my mind was broken 468 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: already since I was born with the parasite. My mother 469 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 1: grew up on a farm that was lousy with barn 470 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: cats and often had the duty of changing the household 471 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 1: litter box. When she was pregnant and I was an 472 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: early term fetus, her doctor told her that she had 473 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 1: high levels of toxoplasmosis and the test suggested that her 474 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: baby ME would likely have severe birth defects, including I 475 00:24:55,880 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 1: am not making this up, the failure to develop a head. Awesome. Obviously, 476 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: such a fetus would be still born, and the doctor 477 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: recommended that my mother consider her options, including an early 478 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: term abortion. My mom stuck it out until her first 479 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 1: ultrasound and a number of subsequent tests suggested that I 480 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: did indeed have a head, so ye haw h. The 481 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 1: doctor still warned of the possible mental handicaps, including mental retardation, 482 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: but my eventual birth and years of elementary school test 483 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: proved him wrong once again. So I supposed to take 484 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: away from your listener is if you're a pregnant woman 485 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: with toxoplasmos toxoplasmosis, don't give up hope because your baby 486 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 1: just might pull through and have a head after all. 487 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: Listening to your podcast, I found that many of the 488 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 1: associated behaviors of toxoplasmosis hosts fit our situation. My mother 489 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: is indeed warm and open hearted, and I am kind 490 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 1: of a stubborn and dogmatic jerk. I don't have any 491 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: fondness for cats. However, I wouldn't diagn diagnose myself as schizophrenic. 492 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: The two of my other personalities would disagree. Josh is 493 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: a funny guy. Um a very us enjoyed the podcast 494 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 1: and hope you're both enjoying the Georgian summer heat. We 495 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: are not, in fact, Josh, Yeah, that was from John 496 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: asked it here, who was a PhD candidate at the 497 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: Department of Natural Resource Science at the University of Rhode Island. 498 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 1: Thanks Josh, and good luck to you on your doctoral candidacy. Also, 499 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 1: we got a bunch of emails Chuck from people who 500 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: wanted to know how they could be diagnosed or not 501 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: diagnosed with toxoplasmosis and um. From what I understand, it's 502 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: just a simple blood test to check for anybodies that 503 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: that developed a ward off the taxoplasmatic systems at your 504 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: local CDs under the taxo plasmosis island right not true 505 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: or Jimmy's bait shop and blood test galore right, he 506 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 1: serves up live bait, toxoplasmosa tests and express up. Have 507 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: you seen that place indicator that's that It says live 508 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: bait pets taxes really yea interesting they sell live bait 509 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 1: and do taxes? Didn't make you an expressive? Sure? If 510 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 1: you want to talk to Chuck and I about any 511 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: possible developmental diseases that you're in danger of having as 512 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: a fetus, you can send us an email to stuff 513 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: podcast at how stuff works dot com For more on 514 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: this and thousands of other topics. Is it how stuff 515 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 1: works dot com. Want more how stuff works, check out 516 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 1: our blogs on the house stuff works dot com home page. 517 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 1: Because you listen to this podcast, you're probably a forward 518 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: thinker interested in topics like green technology, community, renewable resources, 519 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 1: and the future of the world as we know it? 520 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: Are we right? If so? Go to how stuff works 521 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: dot com and search forward thinking to find out more. 522 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 523 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: It's ready, are you