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Speaker 2: Isaiah Callier played all forty eight minutes last night, had

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Speaker 2: seventeen points in twenty two assists, and Utah ended up winning.

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Speaker 2: Caller went to USC for one year. Marvin Raight, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he was on. He played the same year as Bronnie James. Okay,

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Speaker 2: you could tell which one was the NBA player, So

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Speaker 2: Bronni played with him? Not he played with Bronnie correct, Yes,

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Speaker 2: but we thought there was a big difference when you

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Speaker 2: watch those two plays, like, well, that guy's an NBA player,

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Speaker 2: that guy has a dad who plays in the NBA. Sure.

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Speaker 1: Getting a text from you at eleven thirty eight at night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're watching the USC game. Was like, who's that texting?

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Speaker 2: It's Dan twenty two assists, most in the NBA this season,

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Speaker 2: most by a jazz player since John Stockton had twenty

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Speaker 2: two in nineteen ninety two. Got you by Panini America,

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Speaker 2: the official trading cards of The Dan Patrick Show. Did

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Speaker 2: we come up with an answer, Paul, of most NBA

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Speaker 2: teams by a Hall of Famer?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and these are guys either in or going in.

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Speaker 3: So there's a bunch of sixers uh six times. Tracy

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Speaker 3: McGrady had six, Shack six, Wu Tumbo six, Carmelo Anthony six.

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Speaker 3: Now the sevens, Moses Malone, Dwight Howard, Chauncey Billups still

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Speaker 3: in the hall, Bob McAdoo, Adrian Dantley's seven teams, Dan

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Speaker 3: and one guy had eight. Here's the hint. One of us,

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Speaker 3: I think everybody loves this guy. Well, one of us

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Speaker 3: on the staff really loves this guy. Okay, that's the hint.

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Speaker 3: Probably his favorite basketball player. It's not me Marvin or Seaton,

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Speaker 3: all right, his Seaton. Oh there's a hint.

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Speaker 2: The hint is it's me your favorite basketball player.

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Speaker 4: I think so.

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Speaker 2: One of the guys that I talk about a lot, Marvin,

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Speaker 2: Vince Carter Okay, Vin fan half amazing.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Vincent Lamark Harter Junior eighteams.

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Speaker 2: The third Cooper flag at thirty six, nine and six.

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Speaker 2: They lost. MAVs lost to the Celtics and the Warriors

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Speaker 2: had just two free throws in the loss to the

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Speaker 2: seventy six ers. We talked to Steve Kerr prior to

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Speaker 2: the game yesterday and my first question was are you

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Speaker 2: a football fan?

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Speaker 5: I do, yeah, yeah, big fan. I watch everything and

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Speaker 5: who do you root for? Well, I root for the Niners.

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Speaker 5: I was a Rams fan growing up, and then when

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Speaker 5: they moved to Saint Louis, I discarded them, And so

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Speaker 5: I've become a Niners fan living up here in the

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Speaker 5: last twelve years.

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Speaker 2: But then when the Rams came back, you didn't go back.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's too late.

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Speaker 5: It's like you know, your ex girlfriend, you know, runs

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Speaker 5: off with someone and then comes back.

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Speaker 6: It's not the same thing.

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Speaker 2: So how much blame do you take for the proliferation

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Speaker 2: of the three point shot?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I take I take zero responsibility for that, just

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Speaker 5: so you know.

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Speaker 2: Well, so it's all on Steph.

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Speaker 6: I blame Steph for all of it, every bit of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But when did you come to the grips of

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Speaker 2: I'm going to let him shoot wherever whenever.

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Speaker 5: Mid midway through my first season coaching him, there's there's

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Speaker 5: actually a clip that's probably right when it happened. It's

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Speaker 5: a famous clip where he dribbles around his back, through

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Speaker 5: his legs around four different guys on the Clippers with

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Speaker 5: a light blue short sleeve jerseys on. Yeah, and he

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Speaker 5: shoots like a fade away twenty six footer and they

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Speaker 5: show me on the sidelines.

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Speaker 6: I'm holding it. So I don't know if.

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Speaker 5: It was that moment, but there there definitely was a

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Speaker 5: moment that season, my first year coaching him, where everything

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Speaker 5: I'd ever been taught, all of my coaches and pretty

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Speaker 5: much all of whom were in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 5: And by the way, everything I was ever taught was,

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Speaker 5: you know, these are terrible shots.

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Speaker 6: You can't shoot that. You can always get a better

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Speaker 5: And then about halfway through my first year coaching staff,

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Speaker 5: I realized that's part of his power, and you just

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Speaker 5: but in the end he's going to shoot over forty percent,

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Speaker 5: and there's something about his swashbuckling approach that is really

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Speaker 2: Can you teach it?

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Speaker 6: I don't think so.

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Speaker 5: I don't think you can teach it. I think players

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Speaker 6: You can get you.

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Speaker 5: Can get players who have it, but they shouldn't have it,

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Like the opposite can be

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Speaker 5: true too, Like a guy who has that attitude which

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Speaker 2: Could you imagine, though, Larry Bird with today's philosophy or

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Speaker 2: you know, throw out whoever, like, what kind of numbers

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Speaker 2: are they putting up shooting from the three point range?

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Speaker 5: Well, I think I think we're going to see it

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Speaker 5: with Konk Nipple doing what he's doing in his rookie year.

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Speaker 5: You know, this is you know, probably the first generation

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Speaker 5: you know, watching Steph Curry and watching the style of

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Speaker 5: and you know, for most most of the young players

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Speaker 5: over the past half decade or so, it's it's felt

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Speaker 5: more like, all right, this is kind of where it's

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Speaker 5: all heading. And with with Canipple, it's more like this

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Speaker 5: see what a great shooter is the volume.

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Speaker 6: I think you're going to start seeing more and more players.

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Speaker 5: Who come in with that approach because analytically and stylistically

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Speaker 5: the game has really evolved over the last decade.

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Speaker 2: Tour it is now and Caitlyn Clark doesn't happen without

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Speaker 2: Steph Curry, right.

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Speaker 6: Totally agree, totally agree, and it really.

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Speaker 5: Is remarkable when you think about how Steph has impacted

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Speaker 5: the game beyond just the records and the championships and

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Speaker 5: everything else. It's it really is an art form with him,

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Speaker 5: and there's there's only you know, certain athletes who can

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Speaker 6: But this this you know.

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Speaker 5: In terms of the fluidity and the movement and the grace,

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Speaker 5: but stylistically, analytically, everything has kind of led to this

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Speaker 6: Obviously.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Steve Kerr, the Warriors head coach, I'm curious

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Speaker 2: that you played for Pop, you played for Phil, you

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Speaker 6: It's a great question.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I've definitely taken a lot from all of them.

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Speaker 5: I played for Lenny Wilkins in Cleveland for three years,

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Speaker 5: brilliant Hall of Fame coach. I think what I would

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Speaker 5: say ties them all together is their authenticity just to

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Speaker 5: I think you have to have conviction as head coach.

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Speaker 5: You can believe in anything. You can come from any

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Speaker 5: that authenticity, that compassion for what your players are going through,

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Speaker 5: what they're dealing with day after day. All of those things,

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Speaker 5: you know, I felt from all four of those Hall

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Speaker 2: But do you believe that everybody is individual? Used to

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Speaker 2: be the old school style is you're all the same,

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Speaker 2: it's a team, but there's so many personalities and demands

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Speaker 2: so do you subscribe more to what Phil Jackson was

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Speaker 6: Think Phil was ahead of his time.

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Speaker 5: He was probably at the forefront of what you're seeing

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Speaker 5: being in tune on the emotional side with your players.

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Speaker 5: I thought Phil came around right at the end of

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Speaker 5: the my ware of the Highway type, you know style coaching,

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Speaker 5: and he helped us. You're in this modern era that

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Speaker 5: we're in where yes, there's there's more empowerment for the players,

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Speaker 5: but it's also just society. How different we are, you know,

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Speaker 5: so I think coaches today are much more like like

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Speaker 5: Phil than they would have been, you know during Phil's time,

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Speaker 5: just being really aware of everything that's happening.

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Speaker 6: But what made.

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Speaker 5: Phil really unique was his background and his interest in

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Speaker 5: his love for Native American spirituality. And you know a

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Speaker 5: lot of people made fun of all that stuff, calling

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Speaker 6: Whatever, but it was real.

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Speaker 5: You know, he was so brilliant and so authentic, and

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Speaker 5: You know, he would say that and we've felt it,

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Speaker 5: and that was what made him so great.

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Speaker 2: Are you and Steph a package deal? Is this? Are

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Speaker 2: you going to coach until Steph leaves?

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Speaker 6: Well? I would never leave him. I can tell you

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Speaker 6: that I love Steph.

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Speaker 5: I'm so incredibly lucky to have coached him for twelve years.

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Speaker 5: I think every coach kind of dreams of, you know,

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Speaker 5: coaching somebody like Steph, who is arguably the greatest faith

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Speaker 6: And I will never leave him.

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Speaker 5: I can tell you I'm not going to become a

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Speaker 5: But it all has to play out, you know, with

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Speaker 6: But you never know.

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Speaker 2: Trade deadline comes and goes. You were traded five times, yes,

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Speaker 2: five times. How tough is that? You go home and

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Speaker 2: you tell your wife and I don't know if you

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Speaker 5: Really hard, really hard. It's a lot easier if you

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Speaker 5: get traded in the off season.

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Speaker 2: Was there a city where you said to your wife, Hey,

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Speaker 5: There was only one time when I lived away from

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Speaker 6: But it wasn't because of the city.

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Speaker 5: It was because I was traded during the school year

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Speaker 5: and it was just before camp.

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Speaker 6: It would have been probably mid to late September.

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Speaker 5: Kids are already in school and we just decided, you know,

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Speaker 5: to leave them there and I went up to Portland

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Speaker 5: on my own. And that's a really difficult thing to do,

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Speaker 5: but something that a lot of a lot of NBA

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Speaker 2: You talked about Steph. I maintained that he has changed

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Speaker 2: the game, probably more than any other basketball player. From

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Speaker 2: this standpoint of you know, be like Mike. Nobody could

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Speaker 2: be like Mike, but you feel like you can be

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Speaker 2: like Steph. And I don't know if we're getting into

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Speaker 2: Victor wimben Yama. Is he going to change the game.

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Speaker 2: Are we going to look back and you know, fifteen

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Speaker 2: years and say, oh my gosh, he started this. But then,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. Steph's so unique that we've

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Speaker 2: seen big men who are athletic, and you know, Dirk

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Speaker 2: that he is so good at both ends of the floor.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he reminds you of anybody else.

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Speaker 2: I think you had thirty career starts. That sound about right.

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Speaker 2: I think one year you had you know, like twenty starts. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm very proud of that.

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Speaker 2: Fair enough, Uh, that you've never run him? You you

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Speaker 2: But you and Draymond are going to be friends for life, right.

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Speaker 5: He is the best I I You know, he's so

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Speaker 6: And he's the.

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Speaker 5: First to tell you he's flawed, uh and uh he

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Speaker 2: Thanks for taking time. I know you're busy, and good luck.

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Speaker 6: Always good to see it. Dan Steve.

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Speaker 4: Way this guy should be making more money than me.

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Speaker 2: But also, if you look at eighteen games, people are

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Speaker 8: But when you look at Drake May, there's an opportunity

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Speaker 8: Our running game is good enough. I don't think that

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Speaker 2: I think his legs have to win this game. I

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Speaker 8: He has to use his legs. It's just it's the

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Speaker 8: I think he's got nine scrambles, you know, in the postseason.

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Speaker 8: I think only person that's run for more yards and

442
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Speaker 8: in recent postseasons has been Patrick Mahomes. So I just

443
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Speaker 8: want to see him instead of having I'd like to

444
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,439
Speaker 8: see him have nine scrambles in this game. Yeah, the

445
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 8: Seahawks are not great at stopping quarterbacks who scramble, giving

446
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Speaker 8: up over five yards per scramble, but they're great at

447
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 8: stopping traditional running backs. So, for from Drake May's standpoint,

448
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 8: get out in the open field when they when they

449
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 8: pressure you, because they are going to pressure you, make

450
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Speaker 8: them pay with your feet so that they can kind

451
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 8: of sit back a little bit and now you can

452
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Speaker 8: go pick him apart, even if your shoulders hurting a

453
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Speaker 8: little bit.

454
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Speaker 2: Like you, Okay, you seem cold. I'm not cold. I'm

455
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Speaker 2: not cold at all. You're just acting cold. I'm not

456
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Speaker 2: I'm acting cold cold. Yeah, you're kind of squirming around.

457
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Speaker 2: You want a heater over there?

458
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Speaker 8: No, No, I'm just trying to make sure I look

459
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Speaker 8: at everybody in the eyes and.

460
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Speaker 2: Oh, you're going to your like fourth and fifth read here?

461
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Speaker 5: Is that?

462
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Speaker 2: What it's good is Sam Donald? Has he removed that

463
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Speaker 2: bust guy like he got to the Super Bowl? Does

464
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Speaker 2: he still have to win the Super Bowl? You know

465
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Speaker 2: for you to you know, co sign on this for me? Yeah?

466
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Speaker 8: No, no, I'm I'm all in. I'm all in on

467
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Speaker 8: Sam Donald. I think for the public. Yeah, he has to.

468
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Speaker 8: This could really be a Jared Goff situation if if

469
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Speaker 8: he does not play well in the super Bowl. Hell,

470
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Speaker 8: I forgot Jared Goff played in the Super Bowl a

471
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Speaker 8: couple of weeks ago when I was tweeting about this

472
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Speaker 8: because he played so Yeah, he played so bad that

473
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Speaker 8: the fans kind of and the coach kind of, yeah,

474
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Speaker 8: kicked him to Detroit.

475
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Speaker 2: Right.

476
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Speaker 8: So when I look at if.

477
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Speaker 2: They win that Super Bowl, do they make that trade

478
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Speaker 2: for Matthew Stafford? No, not even close. Yeah they don't.

479
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Speaker 2: But Stafford's an upgrade anyway, Oh he is. But would

480
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Speaker 2: it be the loyalty if you won a Super Bowl

481
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Speaker 2: for us?

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Speaker 8: Has anyone anyone ever traded the quarterback that they won

483
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Speaker 8: a Super Bowl with the next year?

484
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Speaker 2: I don't know. Paul check what Marvin the Ravens got

485
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Speaker 2: rid of Trent Dilfer after they won the Super Bowl.

486
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Speaker 8: Okay, but is Sam Donald Trent Dilfer? No respect to

487
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Speaker 8: Trent dilferd No, you won a super Bowl. I did

488
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Speaker 8: not want to Super all respect my guy.

489
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Speaker 5: Does anybody get dragged more for winning a Super Bowl

490
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Speaker 5: than Trent Delt No one does.

491
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Speaker 2: But you won a super Bowl? No, you can't. Can't

492
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Speaker 2: get mad that.

493
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Speaker 8: So I think Sam Donald to answer your question, I

494
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Speaker 8: think it's one of the greatest comeback stories in NFL

495
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Speaker 8: history because he was drafted so high, went from seeing

496
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Speaker 8: ghosts to now.

497
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Speaker 2: What does it mean? Did you see ghosts in the pocket?

498
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Speaker 2: You just never admitted it. No, I never saw ghosts

499
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Speaker 2: in the pocket.

500
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Speaker 8: But I think he He's a super honest dude, and

501
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Speaker 8: the one thing I've been really fond of Sam for Actually,

502
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Speaker 8: I coached Sam at the All American Game when he's

503
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Speaker 8: in high school.

504
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Speaker 2: So I've got a picture of me and him.

505
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Speaker 8: Maybe I'll post it after they won Super Bowl, but

506
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Speaker 8: I coached him at that point, and he's always been

507
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Speaker 8: a humble young man.

508
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Speaker 2: He doesn't win the Super Bowl, you're not gonna post.

509
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Speaker 2: I'll definitely post. I'm rooting for you still, I got

510
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Speaker 2: your back.

511
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Speaker 8: But he's never taken a shot at the Jets.

512
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Speaker 2: He never had him and he just said, hey, I learned, Yeah,

513
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Speaker 2: I learned, And.

514
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Speaker 8: That's what that's what that's what I saw. That's a

515
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Speaker 8: clip that I saw from your show with him. You

516
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Speaker 8: are done a great job. But I just think he's

517
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Speaker 8: playing so well these last two games, protecting the football.

518
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Speaker 8: You talked about the interception like the prop bet. Yeah, yeah,

519
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 8: he's more likely to do that. But he's protected the

520
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 8: football so far in the playoffs, and he's got all

521
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Speaker 8: the fixings at the dinner table right now, starting with

522
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Speaker 8: Jackson Smith and Gibba at Gibba, and then you got

523
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Speaker 8: you know, Rashid Shaheed, Cooper Cup, they got Kenneth Walker

524
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Speaker 8: in there in the backfield. I just the Seahawks team

525
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 8: seems like they're ready to go get their bike back

526
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 8: from this Patriots can.

527
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,719
Speaker 2: He used a RG three football and I get your

528
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 2: bike back is to get your bike back game baby

529
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 2: out of pocket with RG three.

530
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Speaker 6: You like that one.

531
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Speaker 2: I haven't heard the getting your bike from the movie

532
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Speaker 2: Friday Friday. Let me say you got to reach your

533
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 2: bike back. I'll give you another one.

534
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Speaker 6: Uh.

535
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 8: Bruce Lee Roy is Shownough's the Master?

536
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 2: Who's the Master?

537
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Speaker 8: So right now it feels like the Patriots are show enough.

538
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 2: Wait is that the name of the movie, The Last

539
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 2: Last Dragon?

540
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 8: You ever seen The Last Dragon?

541
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Speaker 2: It's the Black Bruce Lee story. Basically his name is

542
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Speaker 2: Bruce Lee Roy.

543
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 8: Bruce Lee Roy showing up, Yes, basically showing up, Basically

544
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 8: showing up as the Patriots. They've been bullying the Seahawks

545
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 8: for a while, and now Bruce Lee Roy is coming

546
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 8: up and he's like, you know what, I got the glow?

547
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 2: Now you know what I'm saying?

548
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 4: Yes, t was that with kissing my Converse and de

549
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 4: Barge I don't remember, Fitty more Converse.

550
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 2: My man got the Cultured.

551
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 4: And must see your baby.

552
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 10: The Morning Light.

553
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 4: Forget about the words on your mind.

554
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 2: You can leave them all behind.

555
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: To the beat.

556
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 2: We are a musical.

557
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Speaker 6: Now, this is notable.

558
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Speaker 2: You probably didn't think you were going to be doing this.

559
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 4: And it's always an adventure on the show.

560
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Speaker 2: It's still painful for me to watch the play at

561
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Speaker 2: the goal line with Seattle against New England, with Marshawn

562
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Speaker 2: and with RG three if if you were in that situation,

563
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and Darryl Bebbell calls the play? Is there

564
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 2: a check down? I mean, can you change the play?

565
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Speaker 2: Do you think if you're r G three in that moment? Yeah,

566
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Speaker 2: you can.

567
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Speaker 8: You know what you really do is you listen to

568
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 8: the play and then you act like your headset went out.

569
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Speaker 6: What I can't hear you huh?

570
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 8: And you hand the ball off to Marshaun Lynch and listen.

571
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Speaker 8: I've done it before in my career when I heard

572
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Speaker 8: a play come in and I didn't love the play

573
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Speaker 8: call in that moment, in that situation, and I changed it.

574
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Speaker 2: But not with the super Bowl on the line.

575
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 4: You have to you have to.

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Speaker 8: There's some truth to what Marshawn Richard Sherman, Cam Chancellor

577
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 8: have alluded to that that was a glory moment.

578
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Speaker 2: That makes sense. They wanted Rush to be the MVP.

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Speaker 8: I thought, I don't didn't necessarily disagree with that because

580
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Speaker 8: I know coaches in my own career when we've gotten

581
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Speaker 8: into the red zone, they have made calls because they

582
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 8: want a guy to get the numbers, they want a

583
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Speaker 8: guy to have more rushing touchdowns or whatever it may be.

584
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Speaker 8: So I think it was a glory moment and they

585
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Speaker 8: gave him the option to throw that slant, and if

586
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Speaker 8: you're the quarterback in that moment, you have to say

587
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 8: to yourself, what's the smartest play I can make? Here

588
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 8: we're dominating them on the ground. I'm handing the ball

589
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 8: off to Marshawn Lynch.

590
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Speaker 2: I bet if he gets stopped now the clock time out.

591
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 2: And then because Belichick knew that, Yeah, but just the

592
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 2: fact that the most unsung part of that is Browner

593
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Speaker 2: jams the receiver right so he can't have a pick,

594
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Speaker 2: and the fact that they practice that on Wednesday. You know,

595
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Speaker 2: mccordy told us, he said, you know that's the key.

596
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 2: You jam the guy who's gonna pick, and Malcolm has

597
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 2: free reign. You gotta go straight ahead. And I mean,

598
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 2: it's the greatest play in Super Bowl history. And he's

599
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Speaker 2: coming from depth.

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Speaker 8: So if they don't run this land they turn it

601
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Speaker 8: into a corner out or something. He's just in a

602
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Speaker 8: collision the receiver and then kind of go with him.

603
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Speaker 2: I thought a run pass option. I don't allowed you

604
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Speaker 2: to Russ could run or if you're gonna throw it,

605
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Speaker 2: nobody's around it, you can throw it away.

606
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Speaker 8: I don't blame Russell Wilson for making the throw I

607
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 8: blame the coaches for making it an option that that

608
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 8: to me is the is the key there, because you

609
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 8: are asking what a second year quarterback to say, you know,

610
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 8: screw the coach, I'm gonna do.

611
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do what I want to do.

612
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 8: I'm gonna hand the ball off to Marshawn because that's

613
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 8: what the right thing to do is. I don't blame

614
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 8: the quarterback in that moment, but if you you.

615
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Speaker 2: See Pete Carroll and there's an ISO camera on him

616
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Speaker 2: and he is he's brought to his knees like he

617
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 2: is devastated. And you see Marshawn Lynch walking over to

618
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Speaker 2: the sidelines and Pete Carroll's standing there and he knows

619
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Speaker 2: Marshaun's not even make an eye contact though.

620
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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's the kind of play that makes the player

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Speaker 8: hate you forever. And I think we've we've we've heard

622
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Speaker 8: over the years that there's there's some of those defensive

623
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 8: guys and including marsha On that that hate that staff

624
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Speaker 8: despite the fact that they want a Super Bowl together.

625
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Speaker 2: But did they turn on Russ after that?

626
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 6: Oh?

627
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 2: Yeah? But why?

628
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Speaker 8: Because when you when when losing happens, especially at the

629
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Speaker 8: highest level, they're all looking for someone to point the

630
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 8: finger at. Now, say they handed off to Marshawn and

631
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Speaker 8: Marshan doesn't get in. Do you think Marshaan's is hated

632
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 8: as as Russell has become over the years. No, not

633
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 8: at all, because that was the obvious play to make.

634
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 8: And of course Marshawn's like, you know, he's like soup dog.

635
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 8: He can he can smoke weed and do what ever

636
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 8: he wants to do. And they're like, yeah, yeah, but

637
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 8: Russell can go to you know, children's hospitals and give

638
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Speaker 8: back to the community.

639
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 2: And they're like, yeah, screw that guy.

640
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Speaker 8: I don't I don't agree with that. But at the

641
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 8: same time, when you lose at that level and everyone's

642
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 8: like this is the obvious decision to make, they're gonna

643
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 8: point that finger. And I think they continually pointed at

644
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 8: Russ more than they pointed at Pete or or anyone

645
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 8: else in the side.

646
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Speaker 2: And he was the best player on the field that night.

647
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Speaker 2: In my opinion, I thought Russ was better than Tom.

648
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Speaker 2: He was and man, you just have that one, that

649
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 2: one play, and what that does you know? Pete would

650
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Speaker 2: have two Super Bowls. Russ would have tuaranteed Hall of

651
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Speaker 2: Famer and he's still be in Seattle. You think so

652
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Speaker 2: one hundred percent.

653
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Speaker 8: I think that single moment deteriorated the entire dynasty that

654
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 8: was building in Seattle because it pitted them against each

655
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Speaker 8: other at that point.

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Speaker 2: It's always great to see you. We love when you

657
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Speaker 2: come on and thank you for all the contributions during

658
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Speaker 2: the season. No, I appreciate you, guys. Maney the best

659
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Speaker 2: he is. RG three is out of pocket with RG

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Speaker 2: three podcast. We'll take a break, We're back after this

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Speaker 2: on the Dan Patrick Show.

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Speaker 2: It's official. This crowd is the best crowd we've had

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Speaker 2: this week. Beautiful weather, Sun's coming up here with the

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Speaker 2: ballpark and this is going to be a Although I said,

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Speaker 2: check the weather, Paul, do we have rain in the

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Speaker 2: four cast on Super Bowl Sunday.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't look like it it's gonna be.

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Speaker 3: I would say high fifties and overcast with only a

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Speaker 3: fifteen percent chance of humidity and rain.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Dan Or Lomsky of the Mothership, you

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Speaker 2: can see him on NFL Live every weekday at four

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00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 2: Eastern and a former NFL and of course a legend

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Speaker 2: at the University of Connecticut, where he lied about his

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00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,280
Speaker 2: forty yard dash time when he was in high school

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Speaker 2: and he ran like a thirty eight yard forty yard

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Speaker 2: dash and had a better time. But I love the

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Speaker 2: ingenuity here. Let's make way for dan or Lomsky. Go hi, buddy,

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Speaker 2: how you doing. He's and I liked to calling the

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Speaker 2: standing the standing.

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Speaker 9: Oh yeah, I'm never gonna I'm never gonna like let

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Speaker 9: some of the things of my past go huh.

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Speaker 6: That's that story.

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Speaker 4: The end zone.

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Speaker 2: No, that's that one's great. I don't like bringing up

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Speaker 2: the end zone because that's easy to make fun.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, But if you want to re tell that story,

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Speaker 2: you can.

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Speaker 4: Dam This is the forty story, the forty yard dash story.

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Speaker 2: No, no, the end zone one. I'm kidding.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that's not sure serious.

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Speaker 2: I was like, there, ever, go no, because the forty

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Speaker 2: yard dash showed ingenuity.

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Speaker 4: I had no other choice.

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Speaker 9: I realized I was such an unathletic person that if

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Speaker 9: I wanted to go to college, I was going to

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00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 9: have to Because that was back in the day, if

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Speaker 9: you didn't cross a barrier in the forty yard or

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00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 9: they were like just.

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Speaker 4: Going to push you aside.

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Speaker 9: And so I knew that if I didn't get the

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00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 9: forty yard number, at least in their eye, to the

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Speaker 9: bare minimum, that I wasn't going to go to at

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Speaker 9: least the college that I certainly like wanted to are

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Speaker 9: the level. So I just kicked a cone forward and

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Speaker 9: went from there and somehow I stumbled into college football.

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Speaker 4: And what was your time when I ran the forty

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Speaker 4: that day? It was four to eight. Realistically, it was

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Speaker 4: like five eight.

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Speaker 9: I was telling I was telling Marcus so Marcus Spears,

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Speaker 9: we were, we were yesterday, just I don't know what

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Speaker 9: the story was, the genesis of it.

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Speaker 4: We were talking about.

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Speaker 9: It was me, Marcus, Ryan Clark, Kelsey were sitting there

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Speaker 9: and we were talking about just how being on the

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Speaker 9: field for the Pro Bowl, everybody's like six', four two

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Speaker 9: hundred and ten plus and a freakazoid. Athlete and we

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Speaker 9: were telling the stories back in the day Of Walter. Camp,

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00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 9: obviously you know The Walter Camp All American. Team there's

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Speaker 9: An All american team and Then Walter. Camp since it

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Speaker 9: originated In connecticut always picks a player of The year From,

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Speaker 9: connecticut and So marcus AND i came out of school

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Speaker 9: the same. Year So marcus is telling the story of,

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Speaker 9: Man i'm In connecticut And i'm at This Walter Camp

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Speaker 9: award And i'm there with like, Me Larry, Johnson Larry,

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Speaker 9: fitzgerald all these stars back in the. Day And he's,

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Speaker 9: LIKE i watched this dude walk. In AND i go

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00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 9: To Larry. Johnson i'm, like who is? That And Larry johnson's,

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Speaker 9: LIKE i don't.

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Speaker 4: Know and someone leans. Over he's, like That's dan R

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Speaker 4: lovski And Larry larry, GOES i have never heard of that.

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Speaker 9: Person And marcus looks at me and it looks At

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Speaker 9: larry and he, Goes i'm a play in THE nfl

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Speaker 9: for twenty.

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Speaker 4: Years and So.

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Speaker 9: Marcus was like telling the story of my, speech and

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Speaker 9: in my, SPEECH i was, like, Listen i'm a kid From, Shelton.

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Speaker 9: CONNECTICUT i ran sixty two in the forty my junior

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Speaker 9: year of high. SCHOOL i was one hundred and sixty

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Speaker 9: five pounds twenty one inch. Vertical And marcus spits out

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Speaker 9: in his drink and he was, like your vertical was

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Speaker 9: twenty one INCHES i, said, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah so damn, it you fooled. Him.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, now my kids are, fourteen and one of them

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Speaker 9: is just like, me And i'm just sitting there and

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Speaker 9: he looks at. Me he's like five foot, five maybe ninety,

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Speaker 9: pounds he's got no muscle on. Him he can, throw

752
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 9: and he looks And i'm, like, DUDE i don't know

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Speaker 9: what to tell.

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Speaker 2: You, Man, sorry do you want your kids to play?

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Speaker 9: Quarterback the only one of my kids THAT i truly

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Speaker 9: in my gut think could play quarterback is my.

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Speaker 2: Daughter my daughter is.

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Speaker 4: The one who's like the crazy gifted.

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00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 9: Athlete she's and she's got the right, mentality and she

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00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 9: can throw it from here to the baseball. Park my,

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00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 9: boys one boy can, throw BUT i don't think he's

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Speaker 9: got the right. Mentality but they both they both play.

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Speaker 9: Football BUT i KNOW i.

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Speaker 4: Have no desire for right now for them to be the.

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Speaker 2: Quarterback it's kind of crushing correct THAT i would go

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Speaker 2: and watch my son play. Baseball he, tried BUT i

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Speaker 2: would stand in the outfield because you, know they, think, oh,

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Speaker 2: man you know your son must be really good at.

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Speaker 2: Baseball he. Wasn't and it's and it's you can't help.

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Speaker 2: Him there's only so much you can.

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Speaker 4: DO i mean at the end of the.

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Speaker 2: Day but it's crushing and you'd be out there and

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Speaker 2: it'd be last, inning winning run at third and my

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Speaker 2: son would come to the.

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Speaker 10: Plate please, Walk just hit, him get hit by a,

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Speaker 10: head anything To, God yeah You're. God, Okay So Dan

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Speaker 10: orlovski joining us on loan for The. Mothership when you

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Speaker 10: see Ghost we just HAD rg three on and he

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Speaker 10: said he never saw. GHOSTS i don't know if quarterbacks

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Speaker 10: everybody is going to say they never saw. Them But

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Speaker 10: Sam darnold did admit that he saw Ghost what does

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Speaker 10: that mean to? You and why would he admit to.

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Speaker 9: THAT i think the admission is just his. REALITY i

784
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 9: think he's comfortable and who he is and. Whatnot so

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Speaker 9: even back, THEN i still believe That sam had a

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00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 9: great comfort in his. SKIN i think seeing ghosts is

787
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 9: when you start to chase things that aren't. There you,

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Speaker 9: know from you, start when you're a quarterback and you

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Speaker 9: get the, play the play call in your. Helmet the

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00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 9: things that come into your, mind the thoughts that happened

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00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 9: are in the. Hundreds what's the, play where's this person?

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00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 4: Aligned what? Motion what?

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00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 9: Shift what's the down and, distance how much time is

794
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 9: on the, clock what's the? Situation who are they? Defensively

795
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Speaker 9: what are they? In is this a blitz? Situation is

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00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 9: that person the? Blitzer what's their? Coverage you have this

797
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 9: trail of thoughts that start to go into your mind

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Speaker 9: and you can start to chase things that aren't necessarily.

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Speaker 9: There you have to Imagine, dan like you spend six

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00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 9: days getting ready for a, game, right so you're just

801
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 9: ingesting this information of game, plan your game, plan their game,

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00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 9: plan your tape, study their tape, study and so you

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Speaker 9: have This it's not one or two things that go

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00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 9: into the, thoughts it's it's this run on sentence of

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00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 9: hundreds of nuggets of. Information and then you can see

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00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 9: one snap and the defense does one, thing and then

807
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 9: you can see a snap or about to be a,

808
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 9: snap and it looks the. Same but then you might

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00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 9: think that another thing is going to happen when it,

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Speaker 9: doesn't and so then it's just this rat.

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Speaker 4: Race this if you imagine the rat on.

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Speaker 9: The, wheel it's just this wheel of information that starts

813
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 9: going through your head and you start to chase things

814
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 9: that aren't necessarily. THERE i remember doing the breakdown, honestly

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Speaker 9: after that. Morning it was one of my first times

816
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 9: on get up AND i still to this day am

817
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 9: adamant that.

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Speaker 4: That wasn't a same darnold.

819
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Speaker 9: THING i think a lot of quarterbacks would have done

820
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 9: that Because New england showed the same thing all the

821
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 9: time and brought something, different and so a lot of.

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Speaker 4: QUARTERBACKS i think we're gonna struggle with. That certainly young.

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Speaker 9: Kids the first time you're ever, experiencing you're, LIKE i

824
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Speaker 9: have no idea what's going?

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00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 4: On and SO i think once.

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Speaker 2: The but Here's Drake may in his second.

827
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Speaker 9: Year But drake hasn't really seen stuff like that on

828
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Speaker 9: a consistent. Basis and, also you have to Remember josh

829
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 9: McDaniel's twenty four postseason. GAMES i think he's been in

830
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 9: THE nfl for twenty plus. Years the way That josh

831
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Speaker 9: cuts out the fat on plays for him By, Okay

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00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 9: i'll take a running back and motion them out. There, Hey,

833
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Speaker 9: drake if there's a linebacker out, there you know it's.

834
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Speaker 9: Man if there's not a linebacker out, there you know its.

835
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Speaker 4: Zone all.

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Speaker 9: Right i've just taken out fifty percent of the THINGS

837
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Speaker 9: i have to think about motion the running back In,

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00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 9: hey if the guy comes with, them you know it's

839
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 9: probably not a. Blitz if the guy doesn't go back with,

840
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 9: him you know that it's probably going to be a. Blitz,

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00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 9: OKAY i again cut off all the information that you

842
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 9: have to think about Where sam didn't have that.

843
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 2: Experience but if you look at offensive, minds IF i

844
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 2: said you could learn Under josh, McDaniels, McVeigh shanahan McVay

845
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 2: Or shannan, oh not even.

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Speaker 9: CLOSE i mean, This josh McDaniels is one of the,

847
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 9: best no. Question but McVeigh And SHANAHAN i think HAVE

848
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 9: i ever told you the golf story the first day

849
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Speaker 9: THAT i was With sean And jared so One i've

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00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 9: played Under. KYLE i was With kyle in like twenty

851
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 9: ten and maybe two thousand and nine twenty ten In

852
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 9: houston when he was quarterback. Coach offensive Coordinator Gary kubak

853
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 9: was the head coach and Just kyle and his ability

854
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 9: to install in the way that he talked about.

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00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 4: Football kyle was his install. Meetings it was like speed.

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00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 9: DATING i mean he would take ten seconds thence all

857
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 9: play throw the paper on the, ground, install, play throw

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00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 9: the paper on the, ground install play. THRILL i mean

859
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 9: the way that he forced you to pay attention with

860
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 9: his urgency was, different and just you could see the

861
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 9: way that he talked about football from a defensive.

862
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 4: Perspective he understood.

863
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 9: It But sean McVeigh in two thousand and, seventeen it's

864
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 9: the spring of twenty. SEVENTEEN i had just gotten done In.

865
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Speaker 9: DETROIT i was In philly with my. Wife we were

866
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 9: down in the city with our, family AND i had

867
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 9: known McVeigh a little bit just in post. Games sean

868
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 9: called me and he, Said, HEY i got this young, Kid,

869
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 9: Jared jared go was going into a second. Season he's,

870
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Speaker 9: LIKE i need you to come out.

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00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 4: Here just be a. Coach you'll be our third.

872
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 9: Quarterback you're not going to take a single snap in

873
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 9: the post or the. Preseason you'll be our third QUARTER

874
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 9: i just need you to teach him. Football he doesn't

875
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 9: have a great understanding of. Football so all, Right SO

876
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 9: i go out there for training camp AND i remember

877
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 9: it's the very first. Meeting we're sitting in the front.

878
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 9: Row it's the situation see in between me And. Jared

879
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 9: it's the first team meeting of training.

880
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 4: Camp hand To.

881
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 9: God three minutes into the, MEETING i lean OVER i

882
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 9: Tapped garrett on the knees AND i, Said you're gonna be, fine.

883
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 9: Dude you could just Tell sean had a great understanding

884
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 9: the way he could, communicate he understood, football his leadership,

885
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 9: skills the way that he could control the room with his.

886
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 4: Voice so just being.

887
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 9: Around those two, guys not only their football, perspective but

888
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 9: just their ability to. Communicate one of those two guys

889
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 9: would be my clear.

890
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 2: Favorite Tom, brady who has had a rapid rise in

891
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 2: improving as an. ANALYST i think he got rid of the.

892
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 2: CLUTTER i think he's doing what he did as a,

893
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 2: quarterback get rid of the clutter and just talk. Football

894
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 2: but he said something ABOUT jsn where he set his

895
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 2: shoulder pads never like they don't, change, Correct so what's, that?

896
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 2: Dude to what defensive bat.

897
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 4: Everything looks the.

898
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 9: Same it's Very Tory holt back in the day was

899
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 9: the great at. This Marvin harrison is, well where you

900
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 9: know when defensive backs study, receivers there's. Tails there's always

901
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 9: tails in, football no matter if it's a big picture

902
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 9: scheme thing or an individual scheme.

903
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 4: Thing remember the Movie, invincible.

904
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 9: When he's, like, hey white knuckles the, rusher there's always those.

905
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 9: Tails there's always those individual tells as, players and so

906
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 9: as a receiver your, alignment are you closer to the

907
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 9: offensive tackle or the tight? End why are you moving

908
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 9: down because you're trying to create space or are you

909
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 9: further away because you're trying to go attack the middle

910
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 9: of the.

911
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 4: Field and then there's route tells where, hey if this.

912
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 9: Guy comes off the line of scrimmage and he's standing,

913
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 9: up he's probably going to be stopping on his route sometime.

914
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 9: Soon if he's got his shoulders, down that he's probably

915
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 9: trying to accelerate vertical and maybe going. Deeper and so

916
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 9: these GUYS i have all these. Tails and WHEN jsn

917
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 9: has everything looked the. SAME i mean we're across the

918
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 9: street from the baseball, park, right and so when these

919
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 9: pictures everything looks the same from a where's my, glove

920
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 9: where's my wind? Up where's the ball coming out of

921
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 9: the every so now you have such a smaller time

922
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 9: frame to figure out.

923
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 4: What the pitch.

924
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 9: Is it's like that WITH jsn when he comes off

925
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 9: the line and everything looks the same from his, stride his,

926
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 9: tempo his. Shoulders as a defensive, back now you're guessing

927
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 9: the four or five different routes that he could run

928
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 9: six different routes he could run rather than.

929
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 4: He could only do one of two.

930
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 9: Things and as a great defensive, back then you could

931
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 9: take away one of those.

932
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 4: Things So, roddy that's his.

933
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 2: Strength Rodney harrison was kind of auditioning to be On

934
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 2: Football night In america and he was talking about because

935
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 2: we wanted to, know, like what do you? See what

936
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 2: are you looking? For he, said all, right, well look

937
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,439
Speaker 2: at this play With Tony. Gonzalez he, said you see

938
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 2: where he's lined. Up and then he, said look at

939
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 2: this other. Play you see where he's lined. Up, now

940
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 2: it looked like the same exact. Formation he, says he's

941
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 2: about three inches, wider he's going out for a. Pass.

942
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 9: Correct just little things like there's always a tell, yeah

943
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 9: if you put in the time to study. It and

944
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 9: that's where we talk about the conversation of watching film

945
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 9: versus studying. Film and that's why you see a lot

946
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 9: of young quarterbacks it just takes time to. Develop is

947
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 9: as a young, quarterback you more often than not you watch.

948
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 9: Film they're playing cover.

949
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 2: Three.

950
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 9: Okay, now then you as you develop and evolve and

951
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 9: be around and repetition your studying. Tape all, right they're

952
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 9: in cover, Three but where's the weakness of the cover?

953
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 4: Three or who is the weakness of the cover? Three

954
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:36,720
Speaker 4: or how DO i know.

955
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 9: That they're not going to be In cover three and

956
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 9: they're gonna go to A cover two or A cover.

957
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 9: One that guy's outside, shoulder he's inside, shoulder his inside

958
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 9: foot is up rather than his outside foot is. Up

959
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 9: it's there's always. Tails the more you, study how did

960
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 9: The patriots? Win great? QUESTION i think number, one they

961
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 9: have to be phenomenal on early down on the interior

962
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 9: of their offensive. Line every someone talks About seattle's defense

963
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 9: and talks about their, front their defensive, front and they

964
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 9: only correlate it to third.

965
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 4: Down and it's great on third.

966
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 9: Down but if you don't Handle murphy And Leonard williams early,

967
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 9: downs you you can't have success against this. Defense and

968
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 9: it's not just in the pass game you got. You

969
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 9: you have to hit him on some quick hitting runs

970
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 9: early downs to try.

971
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 4: To get those two to play.

972
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 9: SLOWER i think the second thing is you gotta handle

973
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 9: the edges of their pass rush on third.

974
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 4: Downs that's gonna be.

975
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 9: HUGE i Think STEP's gotta have the biggest game of

976
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 9: the postseason for, him not even. Close if you were

977
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 9: gonna ask me the one person on their offense In

978
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 9: New england that has to have a big, game It's

979
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 9: STEPH nicki min worry is gonna Play. Nickel who's that

980
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 9: interior pass game defender For.

981
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 4: Seattle he's.

982
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 9: Phenomenal he's gonna be defensive ricidier in my. Opinion he's

983
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 9: six foot, three two hundred and thirty. Pounds, wait they

984
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 9: already gave it to the guy In. Cleveland that's already been.

985
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 9: ANNOUNCED i thought they. DID i thought it's Tomorrow Night. Honors, no,

986
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 9: oh maybe he's a. Finalist he's a final. Sweassenger, yeah

987
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 9: he's he should be a. Finalist, okay, okay BUT i

988
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 9: believe it's announced to mon oh, okay all. Right for a,

989
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 9: SECOND i was, like Oh, god that's gonna go.

990
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 2: Viral, No, no you only go viral when you fawn

991
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 2: all over these.

992
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 9: QUARTERBACKS i don't understand What why do people want everybody

993
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 9: to just say quarterbacks?

994
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 4: Suck you know this quarterback. Sucks it's, like oh my,

995
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 4: god do you.

996
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 2: Have do you fall in love a little too soon with?

997
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 11: QUARTERBACKS i always GO i always think THAT i go

998
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 11: from the mindset of understanding how hard it is to

999
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 11: play that, position and there's so many good players that Aren't.

1000
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 2: Patrick but if you were sending Out Valentine's day, CARDS

1001
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:47,959
Speaker 2: i probably give.

1002
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 4: Him to eighteen to twenty.

1003
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 5: At a.

1004
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 4: Minimum, okay atam. Minimum all.

1005
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 9: RIGHT i don't, Know LIKE i always, Say, DANIEL i

1006
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 9: Think i've said, this And i'm, like this is just my.

1007
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 9: REALITY i think it would be so dumb and disrespectful

1008
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 9: and ignorant of, me who is a backup ninety nine

1009
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 9: percent of my career to just go on the probably

1010
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 9: the BIGGEST i guess on a day to day basis

1011
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 9: network and she's, like this quarterback. Sucks you wouldn't have any,

1012
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 9: respect you. Know that would Be how COULD i then

1013
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 9: go into A monday night football meeting and sit with

1014
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 9: that quarterback and be, like, so what's your game?

1015
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 4: Plan he'd be, Like you're an. IDIOT i don't have

1016
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 4: any respect for.

1017
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 9: You, so, yes there's a part of me that probably

1018
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 9: has a little bit of a find the positive, Perspective

1019
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 9: BUT i do think it comes from a level of

1020
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 9: just appreciation.

1021
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 2: Respect good to see, you great to see, You thank

1022
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 2: you for stopping. By thank you once, again he cheated

1023
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:46,879
Speaker 2: on his forty yard.

1024
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 9: Dash the only TIME i ever have a big desire

1025
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 9: to cheat is in competitive, Moments so golf course is

1026
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 9: very dangerous for.

1027
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 4: ME i, wait you can't. CHEAT i always have an

1028
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 4: internal desire. To BUT i Have i've.

1029
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 2: Learned over, there you want to admit.

1030
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 4: Something, no, no, No I'VE i, Have I've i've. Learned the

1031
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 4: competitive environments are.

1032
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 2: Tough of the mother. Shoe you're you're squirming over. There

1033
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 2: it feels like maybe you cheated a little VENT.

1034
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 4: I have in the many years, ago many years, ago

1035
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 4: many years.

1036
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 2: Ago you can see him ON Nfl live every weekday

1037
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 2: at For eastern ON espn