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Speaker 3: We had a rule that you guys weren't allowed to dunk.

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Speaker 4: Okay, First Weeks, First Guys, Show Me Something Podcasts Episode

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Speaker 2: We are joined by a dear friend of mine, Carl Radkey.

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Speaker 4: He's now also a podcast host himself Summer House Og

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Speaker 4: and I've got it in real time?

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Speaker 2: Are you calling you calling yourself an author?

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Speaker 1: Carl, No, I'm not.

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Speaker 2: This is awesome.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like I have to, but I'm

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Speaker 2: That's why people love you though.

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Speaker 4: But Carl did publish a book. It is called Cake Eater.

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Speaker 4: You've kind of got a lot of awesome stuff going

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Speaker 2: I didn't even do it.

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Speaker 4: No, you're okay, Sophy, Carl, Carl, Sophie and before I

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Speaker 2: Oh you want to know where this is going?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Did you do it? Coach coach Quentin Richardson was like, Yo,

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Speaker 2: Dude. Really, they weren't allowed.

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Speaker 3: We had a rule that you guys weren't allowed to dunk.

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Speaker 3: It's so funny though, because it didn't take you a

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I mean I was. I obviously I was excited

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Speaker 3: So ever realized everyone says that everyone because I heard

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Speaker 1: But I will say that the no dunking policy is

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Speaker 2: Carl, just like fuck you females exactly.

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Speaker 4: Just because it's not a part of like I don't,

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Speaker 1: So they just like.

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Speaker 2: There's just no way.

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Speaker 1: And so I would wear this a like different colored jersey. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Basically I just ran around like a maniac, like screens

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Speaker 3: A like that is in saying Carl that you know

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Speaker 1: I remember her vividly because she was yeah, like we

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Speaker 1: it was like the women I felt like were like

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Speaker 1: they do it, they did it better than us, and

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Speaker 1: we got away.

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Speaker 3: We have to like we have to we have to

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Speaker 3: pay to do the small details because you guys are

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Speaker 3: just too athletic that you'd pick us apart if you

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Speaker 3: don't have the right angle, if you don't have the

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Speaker 3: right I don't know, defensive scheme.

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Speaker 4: Like Ultimately, that's the that's the whole purpose of having

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Speaker 4: the men's squad is to just kind of like really

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Speaker 4: and make everything a little bit different.

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Speaker 1: I'll have to send you, guys the screenshot. There's it's

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Speaker 1: called it's called The Daily the Daily Orange, which is

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Speaker 1: our new student newspaper, And it was like men's bast

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Speaker 1: or men's team cast offs practicing with the women or something.

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Speaker 2: I love it. I love it.

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Speaker 3: I love the w b A still has practice squads,

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Speaker 3: so you need to get on the practice squad of

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Speaker 3: the Liberty.

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Speaker 1: Hey, if you need an extra. Well, it's funny. I

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Speaker 1: live at green Point, Brooklyn, and the Liberty are building

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Speaker 1: their brand new practice facility right right outside where I live.

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Speaker 4: Dude, what's written in the stars, Carl.

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Speaker 3: I'm already What if I got traded up there and

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Speaker 3: then actually me and carlill become like best friends.

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Speaker 1: I thought you're gonna say it like we get married.

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Speaker 2: Or something, I mean, and then I love it.

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Speaker 4: One part of your Summer House, lor Carl, that I

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Speaker 4: still haven't watched, like everything from the beginning, but it's

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Speaker 4: that you were like mister Sales, like just love, just

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Speaker 4: love sales.

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Speaker 1: I like, so you graduated from ser your cues with

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Speaker 1: what degree? Television radio, television, radio and film? And what's

501
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Speaker 1: funny is in my eighth grade like yearbook, we had

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Speaker 1: like like superlins, like most likely to be an NFL player,

503
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Speaker 1: most likely to be on TV? It was it was

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Speaker 1: me because I always liked I liked the mic in

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Speaker 1: the camera and like a lot of my friends from

506
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Speaker 1: my hometown and growing up aren't surprised that I'm in

507
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Speaker 1: the TV world. They're surprised that the way it is,

508
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Speaker 1: like yeah, Prova. They thought it might be me like

509
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Speaker 1: hosting something or being an anchor or doing that. It's

510
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Speaker 1: it's a little different.

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Speaker 4: I think if the three of us can all agree,

512
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Speaker 4: we have always liked holding a microphone.

513
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Speaker 1: I think we all have a knack for say.

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Speaker 2: It just comes natural. We have the face and the

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Speaker 2: voice for it.

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Speaker 1: I thought I was on a face for radio.

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Speaker 4: But you know, no, so you graduated and then ju

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Speaker 4: were you in NYC right after you graduated, like came

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Speaker 4: straight here?

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Speaker 1: No? No, So it's funny like when you're a junior

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Speaker 1: senior at Syracuse, a lot of the alumni, you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe either like in the TV film program, alumni will

523
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Speaker 1: go to LA or go to New York and there's

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Speaker 1: like a at the time, it feels like it feels

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Speaker 1: like what like Reddit is. It's like a forum, but

526
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Speaker 1: just for Syracuse University. And kids would be like, hey,

527
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Speaker 1: I live in LA. I just graduated last year. I

528
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Speaker 1: have an open couch if anybody wants to, you know,

529
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Speaker 1: crash my couch for two months, no problem. Like alumni

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Speaker 1: helped each other out. So when I graduated from Syracuse,

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Speaker 1: I moved to LA like a week and a half

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Speaker 1: after graduation, one bag. I brought an acoustic guitar, like

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Speaker 1: a total loser car.

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Speaker 3: Like, dude, carl out of everything that you might need

535
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Speaker 3: to go across the damn world, you brought a fucking guitar.

536
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Speaker 1: Acoustic guitar that I like could barely play, like you know, Oasis, Wonderwall.

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Speaker 1: You know, I had a dream and I wanted to

538
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Speaker 1: I wanted to work in the TV, the TV world.

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Speaker 3: That's actually hilarious. Wait, when what year did you start Summerhouse?

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Speaker 1: First season of Summerhouse started filming June twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 2: This is ten years.

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Speaker 1: Ago, dude, two years.

543
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Speaker 2: I was a sophomore in college.

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Speaker 1: I was I had just gotten back from a visa

545
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Speaker 1: on a six day bachelor party, barely slept, and Kyle

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Speaker 1: and I drove out to the Hampton. So we had

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Speaker 1: no idea what the hell was happening. I know, we

548
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Speaker 1: were already we were already doing this kind of thing

549
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Speaker 1: with friends.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I'll never forget when I first moved to New

552
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Speaker 1: York in twenty thirty. So I'd been in LA for

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Speaker 1: quite a while and then I came to New York

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Speaker 1: and I went to dinner with some friends and they're like, hey,

555
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Speaker 1: what are you doing this summer. I'm like, I don't know,

556
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 1: you know, hanging out in New York City And they're like, no,

557
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Speaker 1: come out to the Hamptons. And what I had learned,

558
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: you know, that's twenty somethings, thirty somethings, finance, fashion, tech,

559
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Speaker 1: whatever it is. They were like renting a house on

560
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Speaker 1: the weekend with like a big group of friends. So

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Speaker 1: I joined a house in twenty fourteen and twenty fifteen. Wow,

562
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Speaker 1: and I did what we kind of do. I met Kyle.

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Speaker 1: I'll never forget the first time met Kyle last. I

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Speaker 1: don't know I've ever told you this. Oh lord, it's

565
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: a true story. I was at surf Lodge. Now, I

566
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 1: was the guy back in the day. I'd get the

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Speaker 1: massive bottle of rose like yeah, like it was always

568
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Speaker 1: taller than like a five foot person.

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Speaker 2: Oh god.

570
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Speaker 1: And I had this bottle at the table and it

571
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Speaker 1: was like my like chumming the water fishing. It was

572
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Speaker 1: like a luring in all the cute girls and whatever.

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Speaker 1: Of course it was embarrassing. I'm not saying this is cool.

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Speaker 2: No, it's cool, it's fine. No one literally, no one's

575
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Speaker 2: judging you. No one is judging.

576
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Speaker 1: So have this big bottle and it was one of

577
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Speaker 1: those things it reminded me of, like it was just

578
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 1: like I was like trying to hold cork and overwalks

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Speaker 1: Kyle Cook and he's like, I think he this is

580
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Speaker 1: what he said, but this is kind of my memory.

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Speaker 1: And he's like, sick bottle dude, Okay, I get some,

582
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: and I'm like what I said. I had this thing

583
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: where the bottle was so big and heavy that like

584
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: I could pick it up with one hand and like

585
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: pour it. It wasn't easy, but it was like a

586
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: douchebag move, like can you like pour it with one hand?

587
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: So I got a Kyle, I go, you can have

588
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Speaker 1: something if you can pour it with one hand. He

589
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 1: grabs it and he like couldn't do it. So how

590
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 1: it's done. And then I we partied, we hung out,

591
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 1: and then I swear like a couple of days later,

592
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Speaker 1: I was at Equinox in Soho where I lived in

593
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Speaker 1: New York, and I was at the gym at like

594
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Speaker 1: seven thirty in the morning and I look over and

595
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,880
Speaker 1: here's this blonde kid that looked like the dude from

596
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Speaker 1: Surflage and he's at the bench press, like ripping weights

597
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: and getting after one. It's two plates, bro, two plates,

598
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 1: And I literally was yo, what's up, dude, and he

599
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: was like yo, And we got each other's numbers and

600
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: just became friends from there. But the honest to god truth,

601
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: I was at my dentist's office a year later. I

602
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: didn't know anything about a TV show. Nothing I was getting.

603
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: I worked in sales, the west sales guy thing. I

604
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 1: was like a really good sales rep. I worked for

605
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 1: a medical dental company. I'd sold braces and wires and orthonics.

606
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: I lived here in New York City. I worked New

607
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 1: Jersey and all that. So one of our one of

608
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: my dentists, who was a friend of Kyle's also, he

609
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 1: would give me cleanings and I'd go in and pitch

610
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: him new products. I went into his office in May

611
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: of twenty sixteen. I get in the chair, I lay back,

612
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: and he's like, Yo, your boys are going to be

613
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: on some Bravo show. And I go what And he's like, yeah,

614
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: Kyle and Everett are going to be on some Hampton's

615
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 1: reality show. And in the chair, I stall the email.

616
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 1: I lay back and I wrote Kyle and Everett an email,

617
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Speaker 1: Hey boys, I'm a Lane. Lane was a dentist and

618
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: at Lane's office. What's this show about? Yeah, Kyle emailed

619
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: right back and said, it's funny you asked we're looking

620
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: for another guy, say less. I called Kyle after that

621
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: and he's like, yeah, me and him knew each other,

622
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: we were friends, but it wasn't like, you know, I

623
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: didn't know what was going on. And he's like, yeah,

624
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: we're we look, we had some guy back out. We're

625
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: looking for one more dude to complete our house. I

626
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,439
Speaker 1: know you're a lot of fun and seem like a

627
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: good guy. Like what do you think? And I'm like, okay,

628
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: fuck it.

629
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Speaker 2: I love it.

630
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Speaker 4: Isn't it crazy the chain of events that just like

631
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 4: because you went to surflage that one day and Kyle

632
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 4: came up to you that one day and then you

633
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 4: were eating out like it all leads to like, I mean,

634
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 4: same with when I met fucking Lindsay, Like it's just

635
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 4: like so random.

636
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Speaker 1: I'll never forget She came home from the bar that night,

637
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: I'll never forget it. She was like I met the

638
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: coolest guy ever, and like you we're going to do

639
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: a podcast together. And she had like this napkin of

640
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: like a contract. Hey, you guys had drawn up some

641
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: like arrangement on a piece of paper.

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Speaker 4: We laughed about this the other day, Sophie, I don't

643
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Speaker 4: know if you know this. The night I met Lindsay,

644
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 4: I like told her because I was a Bleacher Report

645
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 4: or whatever, and then it's just the most Lindsy thing ever.

646
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 4: She was like, you know what would be like a

647
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 4: good podcast, like a girl and a guy talking about sports,

648
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 4: be like inclusive bla blah blah blah blah. And I

649
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 4: was like, honestly, yeah, good idea whatever. And then we

650
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 4: kept drinking and she was like, you can't steal my

651
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 4: fucking idea and take it.

652
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 2: To Bleacher Report tomorrow. And I was like, I was like, no,

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Speaker 2: I would never.

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Speaker 4: So she got a bar napkin, pulled it out and

655
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Speaker 4: like sharp eat a contract on a bar napkin, and

656
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Speaker 4: then made me sign it.

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Speaker 2: So funny and then we joke.

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Speaker 4: We talked about it again the other day and she

659
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Speaker 4: was like, boy, I guess you broke your fucking contract.

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Speaker 2: You have a podcast girl up out here we are Michael,

661
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Speaker 2: I know my bad. All right, y'all sign for a

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Speaker 2: new segment powered by Captain Morgan.

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664
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 3: I or shouldn't I dilemmas, your hot takes, your unpopular opinions.

665
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 2: The messy ones, the bold ones that I might regret

666
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667
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Speaker 3: If you need some advice or how to get it right,

668
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,840
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669
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 4: So if you've got a life decision, a risky text,

670
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Speaker 4: a group chat, controversy, she or take your scared to post.

671
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 2: Send it in baby. Let the captains decide what you

672
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 2: talked about it.

673
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Speaker 3: And I want to I want to know because I

674
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 3: didn't realize how in depth your relationship with Kyle really

675
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 3: was or is is it like so weird to look

676
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 3: back on the last like two years because I think

677
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 3: a lot of people because I'm not in the reality

678
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 3: TV world, and so I've asked Wes this multiple times.

679
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Speaker 2: It's like, are these relationships like real relationships?

680
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 3: Like when you are on a show, is like, oh,

681
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 3: you have to be because you're part of the show,

682
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 3: or like do you genuinely kind of start liking your castmates?

683
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 3: And I feel like Kyle's one that you guys have

684
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 3: been through so much with and so like just like

685
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 3: the first three episodes of this season, I just feel

686
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 3: like you have just grown and matured so much, like

687
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 3: every aspect of your life, and like now I feel

688
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,959
Speaker 3: like you're looking at Kyle like, hey, like you can

689
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 3: get out of this and you can have you can

690
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 3: blossom too. But I feel like you're in a tough

691
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 3: spot of like him needing to realize it himself, but

692
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Speaker 3: also you kind of being his mentor because you've been

693
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Speaker 3: through it.

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Speaker 1: Very solid perspective. I yeah, I mean it's interesting that

695
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: Kyle's been through a lot with me on the other side.

696
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: You know, before I was getting sober, Kyle had to

697
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: deal with a lot of eye ups and downs. You know,

698
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: I'd show up the work pretty screwed up from the

699
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: night before. I infamously showed up the work forgetting my laptop.

700
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: So you can put up with a lot over the

701
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: years with me, and you know, we're best friends. I

702
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: love the guy to death, but I definitely you know,

703
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: it's been hard seeing, you know, some of these challenges

704
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: that he's gone through. But I will say, like we

705
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: both like when I'm having a tough time, he's there

706
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: for me. When you have a tough time on there

707
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: for him. But I try not to be you know,

708
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: just stand back and like be a helpful person. But

709
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: I've tried to voice some things that I feel like

710
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: are important. But we're very different people. And what's the

711
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: psycho fitness guy that I love to death? Like it's

712
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: it's gotten less of that, and I'm trying to push

713
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: him back into more yeahness and wellness because I think

714
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: that will unlock some things for him as well.

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Speaker 4: Yep, do you obviously you're like I think you're a

716
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 4: hyper self aware person, especially now that.

717
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: Just too much to my own phone, probably I know.

718
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 2: But do you like how much do you tiptoe?

719
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 4: Because I feel like you would worry about having kind

720
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 4: of like the god complex now of being the sober

721
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 4: person dealing with you know, like our dumb drunk cry

722
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 4: baby moments and stuff. I think you do a great

723
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 4: job of like sharing your story without being condescending towards

724
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 4: other people. But kind of what Sophie brought up about now,

725
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 4: it's kind of like your time to give Kyle that

726
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 4: like brotherly advice. How do you navigate like not coming

727
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 4: off pretentious in the like sobriety like lens.

728
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Speaker 1: You know, it's amazing. I'm glad you asked that, West

729
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: because I think that's something I'm very conscious of. I

730
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: think when I first got sober, I mean even you

731
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: could ask Lendsey probably like I would look at people

732
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: early on when I got sober, like, oh, you're just strong.

733
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: Like I had to tie in mighty, like I was

734
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: better than you kind of a little bit. And it's

735
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: it's not a great thing to be in early sobriety,

736
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: like you don't have it all figured out. I had

737
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: to muffle myself a little bit and kind of step

738
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: back and go, listen, whatever is it, Like whatever works

739
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: best for them, that's okay. You know, not everybody's an alcoholic,

740
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: not everybody's a drug addict. You don't need to insert

741
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: your own story into every little thing. So I've just

742
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: tried to step back. You know. I have some friends that,

743
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: of course, like, deep down in my body, am I

744
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: like should I say something?

745
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

746
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: But I don't. I try to step back and just

747
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: be a support, be a friend, and I try not

748
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: to make a lot of our conversation all about sobriety.

749
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: And it's one of the most important things in my life.

750
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: But I want to be just a regular guy too,

751
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: And sometimes I love my sober community. Sometimes when you're

752
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: newly sober. It's like all you talk about.

753
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Speaker 3: But yeah, I also want to say, though, I don't

754
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 3: think that I think the amount of people that I

755
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,719
Speaker 3: know because they know I do this with Wes, that

756
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 3: they bring you up and they're like, you know, it's

757
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 3: really cool to see someone who is sober on the show. Like,

758
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 3: I think you're not giving yourself enough credit because I

759
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 3: think that you've given a lot of people inspiration who

760
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,720
Speaker 3: are in their late twenties early thirties, well like whatever

761
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 3: it is to like be sober and totally be like

762
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 3: so okay with that and like stand in full confidence

763
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 3: to do that. So I think you need to give

764
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 3: yourself more credit about the amount of people that you're

765
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 3: seriously like inspiring to do that, because I know there's

766
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 3: a lot of people who want to but they're like,

767
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 3: oh I might not fit in, or like how am

768
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 3: I going to go socializer? And it's like no, Carl

769
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 3: is like the prime example, and like, I think you

770
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 3: give a lot of people hope.

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00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 2: So I think you need to give yourself a little

772
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 2: bit more credit now.

773
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. It's something I'm working on, is receiving

774
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: of compliments and praise.

775
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 2: I think we're all bad at that in some.

776
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: Way, you know what I mean. Well, I think, you know,

777
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: I'm very I feel it's not lost on me the

778
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: impact that having you know me and this experience and

779
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: kind of being honest about my ups and downs. Yeah,

780
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,439
Speaker 1: and I think it's more relatable to have a group

781
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: of friends that, Okay, one of the people in the

782
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: group doesn't drink anymore, doesn't party like that, but he's

783
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 1: still is social, still like to have fun. Ye. And

784
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: I'm proud that I get to kind of showcase a

785
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 1: little bit of that experience to the audience for sure,

786
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: you know. And I think also I will I'm not

787
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: going to speak for Kyle or Lindsay or Amanda who

788
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: did spend a lot of time with me under the influence.

789
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: I was a nightmare. It was a fucking pain in

790
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: the ass. I was an asshole. I was rude, I

791
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: was a dick. I was I was just like I

792
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: was chaoic.

793
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

794
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: So I think if anything, the way, it's well's I

795
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: told my close friends, they were like, thank god, yeah

796
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: kind of thing.

797
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think people love you.

798
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 3: You don't need that stuff, you know what I mean,

799
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 3: Some people, actually, I don't know if anyone needs it.

800
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 2: But like some people feel like that's the whole identity.

801
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: I thought it gave me this kind of like confidence

802
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: and yeah who I thought I wanted to be. But

803
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: as a result, it actually was the opposite. And I've

804
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: learned it. I've learned to kind of fall back into like, no,

805
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 1: this is just me. If you don't like me for this,

806
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: then okay, no worries.

807
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 2: You don't like me, then fuck you. It's your problem,

808
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 2: not mine.

809
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 5: Story. Yeah, we've talked about it. One story Carl that

810
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 5: really like it didn't like change how I kind of

811
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 5: thought about everything. But two summers ago and Sophie, this didn't.

812
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 5: I don't think it made the show. But basically, the

813
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 5: girls stole.

814
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 4: Our costumes for like a costume party and do you

815
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 4: say costume?

816
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 2: Weird costume? Cost costume?

817
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 4: Well anyway, costume, no age And okay, so they steal

818
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 4: our costumes, we can't find them anywhere, and Carl is

819
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 4: like tweaking out, like like he's where the fuck is

820
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 4: my fucking costume?

821
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 2: Fuck, everyone like losing it. And I was kind of

822
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 2: like Carl, Carl, you good, Like we'll find them later.

823
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 4: And Carl, to your credit, you took a breath, and

824
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 4: you're like, as someone who is no longer drinking a

825
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 4: part of these parties, I feel included with my outfits,

826
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 4: with planning the party, with all of this, and that

827
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 4: was such a big moment for me to click. Like,

828
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 4: even without necessarily like drinking, there's still a zillion different

829
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 4: other ways to like feel included and being be a

830
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 4: part of things that are drinking centric, but they're not

831
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 4: specifically like drinking activities. And when you when you told

832
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 4: me that, you're like, this is what I this is

833
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 4: how I like have fun and feel a part of

834
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,919
Speaker 4: everything and feel a part of the group. I kind

835
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 4: of in that moment switched being like, yeah, fuck you girls,

836
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 4: give them. Then you crashed out.

837
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: Now you nailed it. I think I was just gonna

838
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: say I wish they showed that moment because I I

839
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 1: melted down, Sophie. I bought five four costumes thatching I'll explain.

840
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: I bought four costumes for Kyle, Jesse West and myself.

841
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: They were kind of douicy, fun American flag July fourth

842
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: already outfits. I put them in the room, I go

843
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: run samarants and setting up I come back. They're gone

844
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: now I have nothing else to wear other than a

845
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: hot dump, and I don't want to wear the hot dog,

846
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: but I like tore up the house. Everybody lied to

847
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: my face. Sierra specifically was like I don't have the

848
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 1: and I was like, I know you're lying to me.

849
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 1: I don't like you anymore. Because long story short to

850
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: west point, there is something like some of my sober friends.

851
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: I have a friend who says this very well. He's

852
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 1: like Carl, just because I'm sober, it doesn't mean I

853
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: don't want to go out or stop getting dressed up. Yeah,

854
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: and getting dressed up is another element of like that

855
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 1: feeling of you're a part of it, you're participating, you're social,

856
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: you're having fun. And for me, dressing up also like

857
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: I can act and play it, like acting almost as

858
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 1: like a character and being sillier, goofy or whatever it

859
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: is to dressing up, especially our theme parties. I love

860
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: it because it gives me like another of just something

861
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: fun to do and yeah, out of participant.

862
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 3: So dude, you guys go balls to the walls with

863
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 3: your outfits like.

864
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: Miracle Well Wes is also gone balls ball with themes.

865
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: You've got a great theme to start the summer at

866
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: the country fair. You know he's he love his missourius

867
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 1: to the to the table.

868
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 2: What do you love? Guys?

869
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 3: Now that we're talking about this, I have got to

870
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 3: know everyone wants to know how you made out with Bailey?

871
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: How or what not?

872
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 2: How? But like how did it come about? Like that

873
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 2: is so good? We can't ask that question, Sophie, Yes

874
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 2: I can.

875
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 3: I can ask whatever the hell I want to ask it,

876
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 3: so if he wants to answer or not. And here's

877
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 3: my thing is, like we have just known you, Carl

878
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 3: for like just being like the data of the house.

879
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 3: You're always the one who's like up running a million

880
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,439
Speaker 3: miles in the morning, getting everyone in bagels, like doing it, yeah,

881
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 3: the bagels. But then we also know you as of

882
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 3: course you and Lindsay had your little thing, so you've

883
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 3: always like kind of been in some type of relationship.

884
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 2: But like this is like fun, Carl.

885
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 3: The summer is like so far fun Carl, Like you

886
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 3: just give two fucks and I love to see it.

887
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 3: Like so far you and Amanda this year are like

888
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,760
Speaker 3: fuck it, this is who we are and I absolutely

889
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 3: love it.

890
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,720
Speaker 2: But like I want to know more about the Bailey sitch.

891
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 2: That's so fun.

892
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: No, we I mean it's funny watching back the first

893
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,240
Speaker 1: few episodes where she, you know, she's kind of crushing

894
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: out Ben the Australian, which I think we're all crushing

895
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: on Ben same, I mean west than I am. Ben.

896
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: Ben's Ben's a fucking stunt and he he's like he's

897
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,240
Speaker 1: a great addition to the group and such good energy.

898
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 1: But how did the girls kind of crush on him?

899
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 1: Was actually kind of new new experience where like there's

900
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 1: this other guy in the house. Everybody's like, oh wait.

901
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 2: Jell us, were you guys like wait a second, be honest, No,

902
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 2: I'm dealing.

903
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 4: I've just in my I've been in my own head

904
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 4: for two years. He's he can't have fun.

905
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ben, I think was the perfect person for that.

906
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: He's he wasn't like I don't know, He's just a

907
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 1: good dude. And the way he handled a lot of

908
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: that attention I thought was a very He's like shoy,

909
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: he's like very shot, Like he gets uncomfortable when girls

910
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: are like you're so hot, he like gets red and.

911
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 3: Well he said that he grew up like in a

912
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 3: very religious, religious, religious family, so they never really talked about.

913
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 2: Any of that type of stuff.

914
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 3: So I think that that helps a little bit of

915
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 3: like not speaking of not being able to take a compliment.

916
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 2: Ben, I can't compliment getting fat.

917
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: But yeah, Bailey and I, you know, you'll see how

918
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 1: the season plays out. I think it was a slower

919
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: burn to get to that point. But I think Bailey's

920
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:36,919
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. I mean, I love her over

921
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 1: sharing and like all the information I'm talking about, it's

922
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: like it's sweet, Like she's been through some brutal dating stuff,

923
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: and I give her that first dinner where she opened

924
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: up about sweet green.

925
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 2: She got a fucking did you see you got a

926
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 2: sweet green? I saw it. But at least Carl's more

927
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 2: like has empathetic what is that word? Empathy?

928
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: Empathy?

929
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you're over there going back to Jess,

930
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 2: like two girls crying on the first dinner losers.

931
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: Well, I was like, I was just like, oh, yeah,

932
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 1: I'm with West though, like that was you know, it's

933
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: unusual at the first dinner for someone to kind of

934
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 1: go to that level of emotion, and I think, yeah,

935
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 1: it was funny as hell. Looking back, I think I

936
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: did tell Bailey though, I go, you're gonna get a speaker.

937
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, the shot of Carl is him doing the fake

938
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 4: puppy dog poutlet where he's.

939
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 3: Like, guys, I want to start house and I'm just

940
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 3: gonna have complete crash out, crying the whole time, emptying

941
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 3: my whole story, and see how you guys handle it.

942
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: I will, Oh, guys, that is so not like me.

943
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 2: All.

944
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 5: I remember if you if when you guys play the

945
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 5: Liberty if Carl, I can get court side.

946
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 2: Courtside Liberty Fever tickets in You're you got a room

947
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 2: at the house? Hey, what else are we supposed to

948
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 2: be talking about here?

949
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, reality, Bailey Bailey, the maakeout was definitely hot. Then

950
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 1: I will say it was a great It was good.

951
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 1: It was hot.

952
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 3: I can co sign that it make it would as something.

953
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 3: Is it weird like being in the house, like when

954
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 3: everyone's there and you guys just do stuff like that?

955
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: Is it just like like I mean, we're real friends,

956
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 1: like we we I think we just loved having a

957
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: good time. And I think the more we realize like

958
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: the silly like we almost kind of egg each other

959
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 1: on with like silly vibes or joking or being kind

960
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: of ridiculous. And I think the more we spend a

961
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 1: lot of time on camera that are off camera that

962
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 1: you guys don't see. So we do bond. I mean

963
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: even Kyle and I and lindsay like the car rides,

964
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: like you don't see all the car rides, but we

965
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: really hang out three hours in the car, So like

966
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: there's just a lot we feel like, I know, we're

967
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: kind of oh, we're all we're all here to make

968
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: a great show. Like let's be ridiculous and weird and

969
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: put it all out there.

970
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 4: The other thing, though, that I've always said, is like

971
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 4: unlike other reality TV shows where the film scenes where

972
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 4: it's like here's dinner, make stuff happen, and then you

973
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 4: won't see each other and you won't film until like

974
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 4: two days lunch, like we are the second we walk

975
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 4: in the house. It's full like fifty hours of filming NonStop.

976
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 4: And after you've done it once and you realize, like

977
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 4: everything I said here, like this funny moment or whatever,

978
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 4: also don't make it. You're not like trying to be

979
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 4: performative because nothing you want to, like nothing you plan,

980
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 4: will be on the show, and everything you don't plan

981
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 4: will be on it. So like it's just a very uh,

982
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 4: you have to just kind of let your guard down

983
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,760
Speaker 4: and just hang out, because otherwise you'd be exhausted.

984
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 2: Wait.

985
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 3: I do have a question though, and this is kind

986
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 3: of for both of you, Carl, this is off the

987
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 3: walls to just hang tight.

988
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 2: Okay, you guys, do you guys kind of miss like

989
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 2: Lindsay being on the show. I mean she jumps back

990
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,439
Speaker 2: the episode this week?

991
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 3: Well, I know because I know she like last week,

992
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 3: they're like, oh, she doesn't have what's the baby's name, Jema? Yeah, Jimmy,

993
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 3: she didn't have jim us, so she's gonna come and

994
00:44:58,200 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 3: hang out. But like, do you kind of miss her

995
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 3: like energy and just like being friends with her? Yeah?

996
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: Girl, absolutely, and you'll see on this season. I think

997
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 1: I kind of have to face that feeling a lot

998
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: more than I think I realized. You know, we were

999
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: very close friends, best friends for four years before we

1000
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: started dating, and once we you know, we've been in

1001
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 1: a relationship for less than two years all in all,

1002
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 1: and not try to minimize that, but like since we've

1003
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 1: been broken up and been kind of living our own lives. Like,

1004
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 1: of course, like I miss my friendship with her, I

1005
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: miss some of the inside jokes. I love seeing her

1006
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: get along with the others, and like her friendships with

1007
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 1: the girls have been strong. She bonds really well with

1008
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 1: West and Kyle, and of course I like see those

1009
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: and kind of wish I had more of that. But

1010
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: I think you'll see on this season the inside of me.

1011
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, I wish I want I want to be

1012
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 1: closer to her in some way and be friendly, but

1013
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 1: don't want to be disrespectful. And there's still some closure.

1014
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: I think that needed to happen. Yep, and you'll see

1015
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: kind of at the end of the summer hurt Lindsay

1016
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: and I do talk, which I think was really powerful.

1017
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, tell us about when she brought you your mail.

1018
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: So this has been going on for several years now.

1019
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 1: I'll tell you the beginning of it. Obviously, we were

1020
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: in a relationship, we broke up. I attended a Christmas

1021
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: party maybe five months after we broke up for our

1022
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: company that you know, the production company. We're a party.

1023
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: I showed it to the Christmas party. Everybody writes their

1024
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: name on like hello, my name is, puts it on

1025
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 1: your sweater or your jacket. I put my name on

1026
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: my shirt. I'm hanging out and overwalks one of our

1027
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: producers with a bag and it says, hello, my name

1028
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: is Carl's mail and she's like, this is for you

1029
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: from Lindsay and I'm like okay. And then the next

1030
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: event we went to, I think I might have been

1031
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: the reunion. She came into the green room and the

1032
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: reunion and gave me a little stack of mail. Then

1033
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: again last fall we were somewhere else, but it's been something.

1034
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 1: We had an apartment together, so she it actually has

1035
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: been really funny because I.

1036
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 2: Think, but the most recent one was like really cute.

1037
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 1: On my birthday, we were all together for a press

1038
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: thing for Serious Radio and I walked into our kind

1039
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: of dressing room and she was there. Everybody was singing

1040
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: me Happy birthday. It was really sweet. She even you know, participated,

1041
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: and then like a thick like here you go, bail.

1042
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Wait, Carl, what if this like brings

1043
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 3: you guys back to like you guys are both thriving.

1044
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 3: I'm just talking shit, and like the male is what

1045
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 3: brings you guys back to like getting married?

1046
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 1: That would be an unbelievable Hollywood ending to all of this.

1047
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I will say, she looks amazing. She's

1048
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 1: she looks hot, dude, she looks hot. She looks great.

1049
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 1: And I Kyle and I think even wester n Jesse

1050
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 1: might have caught me looking at her this past summer,

1051
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: maybe once or twice.

1052
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 3: But I mean that, but both of you guys really

1053
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 3: are I feel like you guys are just like really

1054
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 3: healthy in every aspect or trying to be healthy, and

1055
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 3: just like mentally, physically, emotionally, you guys are just really thriving.

1056
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 2: And that's like good to see. I know that she

1057
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 2: probably loves seeing you like that too, so like it

1058
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 2: looks really good on Lindsay for sure.

1059
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. She I mean, I I know her very very

1060
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 1: well and to see her she's just lighter and happier,

1061
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: and you know, just seeing her thrive, it just makes

1062
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: me happy deep down. But for me, like you know,

1063
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: I we'll see how the friendship can unfold more. I mean,

1064
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 1: we're cordial at Bravo Con and she, you know, was

1065
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: very sweet. We had a really fun The group of

1066
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: Bravo Con was awesome, Like we had a really good group.

1067
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: We were laughing at some of the same inside jokes.

1068
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: She even had some things to say to me personally.

1069
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: We just talked for a few minutes. So you know,

1070
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: my goal is at the reunion she unblocks me from Instagram.

1071
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 7: You're you're still blocked speaking into existence, manifest block.

1072
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: Which I understand totally. It's up to her. But I

1073
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: was just a manifesting maybe at the reunion and you'll

1074
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: take his finger and Lindsay's finger and go on.

1075
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 2: I love that.

1076
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: I'm just an idea, But now I I wish I

1077
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: don't think people fully understand the bond, like the core

1078
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 1: group of us really have, and those inside jokes and

1079
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: those and this summer that you're watching in like the

1080
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: episode tonight, like there's little moments of like me and

1081
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: Lindsay laughing at the same thing, or Kyle me and

1082
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: Lindsay laughing at the same thing. That makes me so happy.

1083
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 2: Because it felt like that close to kissing it all.

1084
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 1: Now. But you'll, I mean, there was a pretty large

1085
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: fight that occurred and she Lindsay came in to actually

1086
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: calm me down, and it kind of worked.

1087
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 4: For some reason, I figured actually that that would be

1088
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 4: the best a voice of reason for you and like

1089
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 4: a super hot moment. Honestly, I just think there's so

1090
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 4: so many full circle things that happened when you do

1091
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 4: something like this and like that's one of them, I know.

1092
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 3: But the reason I asked those because like you and Sierra,

1093
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 3: there's like some dirty, little like cute moments that you

1094
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 3: guys both talk about, So I want to ask him

1095
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 3: with lindsay you and I want to engage though or

1096
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 3: together for that long.

1097
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. True. Now I know some people deep down and

1098
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 1: are speculating like, oh, you guys are in much better

1099
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: place than that. Yeah, one step at a time. I'm

1100
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: just trying to get back from unblocked. And I will say, yeah,

1101
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,280
Speaker 1: it's been really like the friendliness of it all is amazing.

1102
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: We have so many mutual friends really could like we

1103
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: have a core group of people that there was some

1104
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: awkwardness obviously for a period of time, and I tried

1105
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: my best to be respectful and kind of allow just

1106
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: some space and some healing to it. But it for me,

1107
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: it feels good to kind of feel like I'm maybe

1108
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: welcome back in the group a little bit with some

1109
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: of the friends. But that took some time, so I'm

1110
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: just glad to be where we are now. For a

1111
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 1: while it wasn't so great, but well, even like Wes,

1112
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: we did that panel for ninety two and hy and

1113
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: Lina I were making cracks back and forth between each

1114
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: other that night, which felt so it was like the

1115
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: highlight of the night for me, like and kind of

1116
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: like when Sierra's nice the West West.

1117
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 2: It's like I was going to say, get it. I

1118
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 2: don't know exactly what I mean. Yeah, so, oh good stuff.

1119
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: I was gonna say. Well, I was saying that to

1120
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: Sophie being sober in the house, just like something that

1121
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: I think is important for maybe or listeners to know,

1122
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: you know, Like I feel very lucky that I get

1123
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: to still do the show. There's certainly moments where I

1124
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: get it, Like looking outside, you're like, wait, this guy

1125
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: doesn't drink. How can he do that? But I was

1126
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: such a terror and a pain in the ass, Like

1127
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: the only way I can be a part of the

1128
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 1: show is by not drinking. Yeah, and I'm present, I'm balanced,

1129
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: But of course, like I think the show itself, we

1130
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: have stupid shit that happens. People get in the fights

1131
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 1: because of alcohol. But I can still be a pick

1132
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: and still be a jerk or still be human without alcohol.

1133
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: And I think people will see those moments too where

1134
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: it's like yeah, like you'll get drama out of me.

1135
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: But it's just much healthier.

1136
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 4: I would like to say, though, Carl, your sobriety is

1137
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 4: much bigger than just summer House.

1138
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally significantly bigger, much cooler, and yeah.

1139
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:19,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I just I take a lot of pride

1140
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: in being a part of this awesome show. And like

1141
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,760
Speaker 1: I mean, Wes, you've been in a massive, massive addition

1142
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 1: to what we get to do, and I feel like

1143
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 1: you've brought a new energy to what we get to

1144
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: do and for me to still be a part of

1145
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 1: the season ten the way it is now, like it's

1146
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 1: unreal that we've made it this far. I mean, my

1147
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:39,240
Speaker 1: dad jokes around, we've been on TV longer than Friends

1148
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:43,879
Speaker 1: and Signs, which is saying crazy, that's most shows don't

1149
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: Most reality shows don't make it past one season. Ninety

1150
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: nine percent of the reality shows don't make it to

1151
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: a second season. And we're still kicking around. So I

1152
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: just feel so lucky to be able to get to

1153
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 1: do it. Sure, and I a little bit more boring And.

1154
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 3: Dude, you're literally not boring like saying you saying that,

1155
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 3: like I'm still add You're dude, You're human, like everyone

1156
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 3: is that way, Like you're still human.

1157
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 2: You're no one's perfect, so who cares?

1158
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: Well? I read too many comments and I've been absorbing

1159
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: all of the nonsense. I'm the guy that I could

1160
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 1: make a hundred people smile and be the happiest. Ever,

1161
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: it's the one guy goes it wasn't that great, And

1162
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 1: I would just lose sleep all night for the one guy,

1163
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: for the one girl.

1164
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 2: You know you need to learn how to not care

1165
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 2: so much.

1166
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 3: I'm you tricks Vie, I I just don't get I

1167
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 3: work with the sports side guy, and that has.

1168
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 2: Been literally a night and day difference for me.

1169
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 3: And I promise you that I've always had like a

1170
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 3: confidence about me that like I'm going to beat my

1171
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 3: own drum, like I know my end goal, I know

1172
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 3: who I want to be and so.

1173
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 2: But I think that a lot of people can.

1174
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 3: Get in their heads, like you can question if you're

1175
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 3: doing things the right way, what your character is all that.

1176
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 3: But I've truly mastered I think the past, not mastered,

1177
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,399
Speaker 3: but pretty damn close the past, like two or three

1178
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 3: years of like this is my word, and forgive me

1179
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 3: for not for I mean, little kids can't say this,

1180
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 3: but like fuck it, like who gives fuck? Like I

1181
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 3: literally do not care, like people are gonna love me

1182
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 3: or hate me regardless of what I do. So why

1183
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 3: would I not just do not do what I want?

1184
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 3: Like I don't want it to sound like this, but

1185
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 3: I just don't care what other people think of me.

1186
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 2: And I just it's so freeing is so fatul or

1187
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 2: is it a learned? Is that a learned?

1188
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 3: I think I think there's a little bit of natural,

1189
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,399
Speaker 3: but like I had to relearn how to not care

1190
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 3: so much because I'm someone who is a very like passionate,

1191
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 3: fiery I love people, I care about people, but I

1192
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 3: have just really mastered the art of like I really

1193
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 3: I don't give a fuck, and like when I am

1194
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 3: that way, I am my best self.

1195
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 2: And so I don't know, it's there's so much I

1196
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 2: just like.

1197
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: I have like a thirty second message that plays in

1198
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: the morning from Sophie, Hey, I don't give a fuck.

1199
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't give a fuck. I promise you. It is

1200
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 2: so bring and you just you see, just it just

1201
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 2: is so much lighter.

1202
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 3: Things just open up when you literally don't care because honestly,

1203
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 3: these people don't know you, the people commenting, the people

1204
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 3: who are praising you, and like shitting on you.

1205
00:54:58,280 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 2: They don't know really anything about you.

1206
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 3: They know you guys as like Summerhouse, Carl, summer House West,

1207
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:03,800
Speaker 3: like they don't truly know you.

1208
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: So like I totally and I part of I think

1209
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 1: what it's it's had me or it's allowed me to

1210
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: like I had to be honest, like I'm a people pleaser,

1211
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 1: which is why I feel this way. And yeah, you know,

1212
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 1: I've had to do a lot of therapy and work

1213
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,919
Speaker 1: on that. I'm getting better, but you know, I've after

1214
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 1: like going through a pretty public, difficult breakup, there was

1215
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 1: something that kind of within me, like I felt like

1216
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: for a long like literally everybody hated me. Yeah, and

1217
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: you know there was I've had to do a lot

1218
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: of healing and work on that, but you know, I

1219
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: had a it was a pretty rough public thing that

1220
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: went on and it took me probably a good year

1221
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: to like finally heal and feel like myself, which is

1222
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 1: what you're watching on the current season, like in the

1223
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: mix and like I finally felt like myself. I get Yeah,

1224
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: but yeah, I need to bottle up some of that.

1225
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: Sophie Cunningham, h fuck you energy, because I.

1226
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 3: Think you also, like both of you guys, and like

1227
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 3: everyone who is in reality or just like in a

1228
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 3: platform in the public eye in general, do you have

1229
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,399
Speaker 3: to remember like that life is not normal, like other

1230
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 3: people go through everything that we go through, but it's

1231
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 3: just not highlighted. And like every little thing, Like if

1232
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 3: everyone's life was highlighted, everyone would be getting so much shit, you.

1233
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 2: Know what I mean? So like who cares?

1234
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:16,399
Speaker 3: Like people love you guys, but you know you're gonna

1235
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 3: get shipped for it too, So just man, who cares it?

1236
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:21,919
Speaker 3: We need Sophie on summer else, No, you don't.

1237
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: I love that season season five we had a basketball

1238
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 1: hoop and I we crushed Pig and Horse. I played.

1239
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 1: We had a good time out there.

1240
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 2: I love that I had a cool basketball hoop This year,

1241
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 2: I'm waiting for.

1242
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: That that episode. Oh, we had an epic.

1243
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 3: I'm I'm hoping to get make it one weekend when

1244
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 3: we play in New Yorker if I haven't off to like,

1245
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:44,879
Speaker 3: come up and hang out.

1246
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 2: It'd be so fun.

1247
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: I think you gotta come. Yeah, we would love love

1248
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: to see you.

1249
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be good. Hey, Carl, I love you so much.

1250
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 2: Thanks for having for the audio difficulties in the beginning.

1251
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,919
Speaker 1: Now, thanks for putting on to me. I'm a huge

1252
00:56:57,960 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: fan of you guys. I Wes told me you guys

1253
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: doing that. I've been a big support. I hope you

1254
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 1: guys see I like a lot of your show me

1255
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: posts and things. I'm a big fan of what you

1256
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: guys are doing. Thanks. I think Wess is incredibly talented

1257
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 1: and he is a shining a shining light.

1258
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 2: And oh guys, you are too. Sometimes sometimes no, I

1259
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 2: think you're You're awesome.

1260
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan, so I appreciate your support.

1261
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 2: I appreciate it.

1262
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: I can't wait to be in real life and I'll

1263
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 1: show you my yeah skilled, there you go. I love it.

1264
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 2: I love it.

1265
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 4: U show me something. Podcasts Episode thirty four with Karl

1266
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 4: Radkey the best.

1267
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 2: Guy to ever live. Carl, We're so thankful, love you,

1268
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 2: Thank you guys.

1269
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 1: I love you guys.

1270
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 2: Go Carl. Oh and brought to you by Arby's.

1271
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we love If you are hungry, hungry right now,

1272
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 3: this one's for you. Rby's just drop something new and

1273
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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie. It's kind of wild.

1274
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1275
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 7: The Meet and three Bucks is going for seven ninety nine,

1276
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 7: So tell them what they're working with. All right, So

1277
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 7: you start by picking your sandwich. You either get a

1278
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 7: classic gross beef, a Chris chicken or the new Crispy fish. Honestly,

1279
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 7: no bad choice here.

1280
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 2: And then they keep it coming.

1281
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 4: You've got the curly fries, the mozzirella sticks, and the

1282
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 4: peach cobbler role.

1283
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that those are Mike quietly steal the

1284
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 2: whole show.

1285
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 4: And yeah there's a drink in there too, it's called

1286
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 4: the Meat and three. But you're really getting an all

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Speaker 4: star starting five.

1288
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 3: Five things for seven ninety nine, and it's all the

1289
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 3: Arby's classics you already love.

1290
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,680
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1291
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 4: you just need something solid that actually satisfies, they'll Meat.

1292
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 2: And three bops is an easy bold baby.

1293
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 4: Well, my hog ger all the week was I think

1294
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 4: you just missed her so but and keV correct me

1295
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 4: if I'm wrong. It was Miranda, the waitress at Cooks

1296
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 4: and Soldiers. It's called she was poorning big old pores

1297
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 4: knew the menu new geography was so nice.

1298
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 2: I like the whole dinner.

1299
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 1: It was me, keV.

1300
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 4: Some of the Arby's teams, some of the Volume team

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00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 4: Hampton and the whole time we couldn't stop talking about

1302
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 4: how incredible the service was. And I know my tone

1303
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 4: sounds satirical, but I'm like fully not. It was like

1304
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 4: such a lovely, lovely dinner. And she she was phenomenal.

1305
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 2: Did you get her number? No, I wasn't even I

1306
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 2: wasn't even trying to. I wasn't even trying to go

1307
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 2: for that.

1308
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:21,919
Speaker 1: Really.

1309
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 2: Oh hey, did she part with one hand?

1310
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 4: One hand like a Marianda deserves howker leak because she's

1311
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 4: incredible and she was so nice.

1312
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 2: Oh and she brought us a little we took. She

1313
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 2: brought us a little complimentary shot.

1314
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, Queen, I like that.

1315
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, my hot girl the week is actually an

1316
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 3: animal for the first time ever.

1317
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 2: Are you gonna say who I think an animal? Well?

1318
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 2: I thought you were gonna say the monkey who hugged punched. No,

1319
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 2: I should have, but I'm it's my dead horse. Oh

1320
00:59:55,880 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 2: fucking guys, I know that's curious. It is serious, So

1321
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 2: I know guys are the worst.

1322
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 3: It's funny because she was a funny, good, lighthearted, beautiful horse.

1323
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 3: But my my very first horse. Her name was be

1324
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 3: She was almost thirty six years old. She actually passed

1325
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 3: away this morning.

1326
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is going on? Oh for one out work?

1327
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 3: No, she was seriously, I'll send you a picture of

1328
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 3: her because she was beautiful and I'm not kidding. She

1329
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 3: was like the best horse you could throw anyone on her.

1330
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 3: All of our friends and family met her. I've had

1331
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 3: her since I was like born, like I'm twenty nine.

1332
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 3: We've had her since I mean she was thirty six

1333
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 3: years old. So I want to shout out our beautiful baby.

1334
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 2: So well, love yeah, sinning love to Paula.

1335
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, mom is really you know, kind of been

1336
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 3: out of shape, out of it, but she she lived

1337
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 3: a great life.

1338
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 2: You know, she was a happy horse. So yeah, yeah

1339
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 2: it was her time.

1340
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, putting a horse down sad man, because they're like, well,

1341
01:00:58,680 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 4: I don't mean, I don't want to get into that.

1342
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 4: I was just gonna say they're big, they're standing up.

1343
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 4: It's just it's really sad, and they're so pretty. It's

1344
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 4: like it's like putting down like a supermodel.

1345
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 2: It's just weird.

1346
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 3: But honestly, on a real note, a lot of things

1347
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 3: that you don't think about. It's like horses are massive

1348
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 3: and like you have to dig some big assholes. Like

1349
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 3: and then you have to lift forecasta or forklifts.

1350
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 2: My dad uses a forklift.

1351
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, a forklift to like grab him or grab her

1352
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 3: and then like carry like it's just a whole process.

1353
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 2: So it is actually like kind of sad, you know,

1354
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 2: No it is. Yeah, yeah, she was good. We love her. No,

1355
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 2: not to end on that, no, guys, but uh, you

1356
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 2: know what, while I'm here, shout out Nascar.

1357
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 4: Also RB's in Nascar, and our boys, Carson Garson, turn

1358
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 4: me up, Carson Messia.

1359
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 2: Miss Yea, See you next time

1360
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 1: Time