WEBVTT - Ep. 308: The Crawfish Pond 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:13.320 This is me eat podcast coming at you shirtless, severely, 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:18.320 bug bitten, and in my case, underwear listening podcast. You 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:24.080 can't predict anything presented by first, like creating proven versatile 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:28.040 hunting apparel from Marino bass layers to technical outerwear for 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:35.879 every hunt. First like go farther, stay longer. All right, everybody, 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:39.800 this is a special Louisiana edition. In fact, Rannie Collins 0:00:39.840 --> 0:00:43.120 explain what we're on right now. Uh, we're sitting on 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:47.000 a hundred and two foot house boat in the middle 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:51.360 of Bay Lafouche. That's right, man, it's like a cruise ship. 0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:55.360 It is. How how do you how did you guys 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:58.120 wind up with this thing? So my grandpa actually built 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:01.680 it from scratch. Yeah, he um, he got a good 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:04.679 deal and some steel. Uh. Took about a year. He 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:07.480 built the barge. He made it from the barge up. 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:10.360 I was talking from the barge up. So anytime we 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:12.280 had like it was kind of slow at work, he 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:15.280 would take our to keep our welder's busy, he would 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:17.840 send them work on the houseboat. So he built the 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:20.720 barge first, which took about a year, and then he 0:01:20.760 --> 0:01:24.600 built the first story in the second story, and then 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:27.679 my mom lined up some carpenters to do the inside, 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:30.520 and you guys can move this thing around depending on 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:33.240 where you want to hang out. Correct. We Uh we 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:36.760 have uh four or five tug boats and uh whenever 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:38.480 we want to move it, whenever one of them not 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:41.440 on a job, we'll move it. Uh. You better explain 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:45.880 your family business. So my family business is oil field construction, 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:51.320 marine construction. We actually uh build oil platforms out in 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:56.080 the marsh and then the bayous, and we have a 0:01:56.160 --> 0:02:01.600 handful of tugs, um probably another eight arges and then 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:04.440 we have our our work crews. Do you guys pull 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:07.120 this around to job sites to and stay on it? No, 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:10.640 this is strictly just the family houseboat. We don't, dude, 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:12.200 this house boat. I want to set the scene. This 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:17.880 house boat has a Christmas tree in it, It has plates, 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:22.120 a full kitchen, decorations, multiple bathrooms. How many bathrooms? Three 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:27.440 uh to appear and then three upstairs, so five by 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:32.200 by full bathrooms. This house would be a sweet house 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:35.760 if it wasn't even on a boat. Yeah exactly, Yeah, 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:38.880 you put it on a boat. Next level you can 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:41.359 fish off the porch. Dude, I'm gonna steal this thing 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:44.640 some night on the hot wire. One of them tugboats 0:02:44.960 --> 0:02:47.480 dragged this thing the southeast Alaska. They got they got 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:50.079 one right there and they can push it. Oh, it's 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:53.240 two stories, yeah, two stories, right, yea, two stories. Uh. 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:55.959 I'll probably leave the Christmas tree out on the deck there, 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:57.440 but on the dock because I don't want to really 0:02:57.480 --> 0:03:00.160 like add insult to injury. I'm taking a whole old 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:02.240 damn deal. The top and the top of it all 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:04.320 off a kind of rocky to sleep at night. When 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:07.000 those little when those shrimp boats or whatever boat passes, 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:10.760 you get a little rocking motion and that's nice. Man. Oh, 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:14.200 we have been like immersed in the culture also so 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:20.080 that that that's a Ronnie Collins, not a junior, right, 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:25.120 not a junior. And uh gean Paul to give the 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:30.680 proper bouge Jean Paul, bourgeois, sir, good French name. Yep, yep. 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:34.920 You're learning also from the state correct. Give a little background. Yeah. 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:37.520 So I'm from Thiboda, Louisiana, which is a little north 0:03:37.640 --> 0:03:40.000 of where we're at right now in Galliano, and I 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:46.440 grew up um An Assumption and Lafouche Parish um and 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:50.120 uh I was kind of raised cooking. My mom and 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:52.600 dad were great cooks. I kind of followed suit by 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:55.080 their hip the whole time. And when I when I 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:57.840 had to decide what to do with my life, the 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:00.360 only thing that I kind of kept thinking about, I'm 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:02.680 pretty good at cooking. So I went to culinary school, 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:05.480 did culinary school, and I've been in and ever since, 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:07.680 I've never had a job outside of the kitchen. Tell 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:10.800 him what your first job was. First job was boiling crawfish, 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:13.960 crab and shrimp that expressed seafood in Toboda, Louisiana. That 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:16.920 was my first job. I was fifteen years old. And 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:19.000 the thing I remember the most, of course, we borrowed 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:21.560 a whole bunch of seafood. But you go home, um 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:24.400 after that shift, and your pores would be on fire 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:28.040 with just with some of that powdered seasoning, because when 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:29.760 you put that in the water, it steams up and 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:32.680 that gets all on your skin. But it's a good memory. 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:34.160 That's a good memory. It's like one of those things 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:36.400 that only happens if you do that job. And then 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:38.000 you went up and chef. You went up to the 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:39.719 big city and chef in New York for a long time. 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:41.600 I did. Yeah, I was in New York from two 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:46.640 thousand and nine to two thousand that uh one. Actually 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:48.120 was it kind of like if you can make it there, 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:50.680 you can make it anywhere kind of thing. Yeah, I 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:53.279 mean I think so, I I was. I'm kind of 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:55.560 a chameleon in the sense of that I like. I 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:58.240 like the adaptability of being in new places. And New 0:04:58.320 --> 0:04:59.960 York was one of those places that I've never been. 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:02.440 And I didn't have a job. I didn't I didn't 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:06.960 I went without a job, and um yea. In my head, 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:08.400 I was like, well, let me put myself in the 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:12.080 most uncomfortable situation I can, and that's how I know 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:14.320 I'm gonna learn to learn the most and evolve the 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:17.120 most and just change. And So, did you boil any 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:22.000 crayfish up there? We did? Yeah? I probably, oh man. 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:25.559 I used to ball about five hundred pounds a year 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:28.080 for a certain event every year while I was up there. 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:31.560 H L s U has um L s U actually 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:34.440 has an alumni kind of gathering there that I've done 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:35.960 a couple of times. Even though I'm not an L. 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:39.040 S U alum, I'm a Louisiana in and boiled crawfish 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:41.320 for them. And different things. I mean, people love crawfish 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:44.360 no matter where you're at in the country, and especially 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:48.000 love it if you have somebody authentically from Louisiana doing 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:51.320 it for him. And then, uh, but I don't even 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:59.400 know your name. Man, say it again. Okay, Gri, you 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:04.840 know why you're here, Budding? Not really. We only just 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:10.719 met Budd yesterday because Buds, Yeah, probably my favorite person 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:13.360 on the planet. He passed up half a finger he 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:18.839 passed up during blew way past Seth and Chester. We 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:21.880 met Budd yesterday because Bud's gonna give a dispatch about this. 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:24.480 We met Buddy yesterday because we went this. I didn't 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:28.200 know this existed until yesterday. We went to Bud's private 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:33.359 personal crawl fish pond. Crawfish pond. Like you know how 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:35.480 some people have a garden that they take care of 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:39.839 and everything. He has a crawfish pond that puts off 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:43.880 how many pounds three pounds a year to waker to 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:48.080 waker pald Okay, puts off three thousand pounds of crawfish. 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:50.400 I went over there thinking that he was in the 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:55.039 commercial crawfish business. No, he just eats him and gives 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:59.440 him to his friends. Yeah, that's like a zucchini gardener. Yeah, 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:02.920 and it's just like the greatest thing on the plants. 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:04.599 We're gonna hear all about how to have how to 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:07.240 have your on crawfish pond. It's a it's a hobby. 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:14.440 It's just uh, we enjoy eating it and it's something 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:18.400 for me to do. I was a commercial shrimp all 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:21.040 my life or you were, Yeah, that's what I did 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:24.480 all my life, a big trawl of working their golf 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:28.920 and when I got out of that, I had to 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:33.160 find something to do. So you started carbon ducks, carving 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:40.880 decoys starring an Alex harmon flies and raising crowfish. It's 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:43.160 a renaissance man, I've ever heard. Yeah, and you you 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:48.160 uh won some competitions for decoy carbon then just quit. Yeah, 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:54.840 it got boring. It's just I didn't. It wouldn't stimulate 0:07:54.880 --> 0:08:00.760 my mind enough. It was always the same routine carve painting, 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:07.880 and uh, I've been in art all my life that 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:12.240 it didn't do it for me. I had to find 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:16.720 a different form of art to keep my mind stimulated. 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:22.480 What do you want too right now? The flies? Yeah, 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:28.200 tying an alex salmond flies for display. Yes, everything is 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:30.520 for display that I tie every flying tie is one 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:34.360 of her coin it's framed. It's collect as that buy 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:38.400 my work and I tie on hundred year old hooks. 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:45.360 The tensils and chilks I used date from around nineteen. Yeah, 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:49.959 it's uh, I'm gonna have to show you. Just uh, 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:52.920 pull up my name on Google. Tell everybody how to 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:54.520 because people at home can do it on their phone. 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:58.640 Right now, go to Google and type been bud gidry 0:08:58.679 --> 0:09:01.000 and no one's gonna know how to st g g 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:05.719 u y d r y b b u d. There 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:12.240 is bud images. If you get a sense of what 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:13.640 he's getting for one of these, let me know. I 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:21.040 don't want to make him feel awkward. Two hundred Yeah. 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:24.480 Like an art, it depends on the crawfish farming. Like 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:27.359 if I have a fly I've done and it's been published, 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:32.000 process a lot of higher Um, I'll have work on 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:37.280 display at the Smithsonian Institute, No at all, four National Zoos. 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:41.200 When you're walk in front the Corey Bustard exhibit. That 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:45.080 fly that's in that big acrylic deals, that's mine. I 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:48.600 did work for the Smithsonian. Yeah, who are you man? 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:53.600 When I steal this boat tied up in it? Take 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:58.720 this guy out and take this guy. Yeah, rant ransom 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:06.520 off draw the flying Uh because every piece I dues unique. Yeah, 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:10.040 it's it's not the same routine. So it stimulates. My 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:13.319 mom keeps me on it. So I want to I 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:15.000 want to cover off on this too, because I feel 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:17.520 this is very like this is kind of like a 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:23.320 test of the culture here where we're at um. Ronnie 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:25.760 talking about how you and Bud, like you've known Bud 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:27.720 your whole life. Yeah, I've known Bud my whole life. 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:29.719 I mean does everybody around here, You guys are all 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:34.000 sort of or been here long. Yeah, we're family and 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:39.160 like unrelated. Budd's close cousins Mr Chris and his son Kade. 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:42.240 Me and Kate were best friends growing up. So when 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:43.600 I first thing I did when I got home from 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:45.920 school was id topping my full wheel cut across the 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:48.319 pasture the Cade's house. And then we go find Bud, 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:50.640 and Bud would bring us do all kind of cool stuff. 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:55.840 We go, we go, frog in, we go fishing, crawl, fishing, whatever, 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:58.200 depending of what was going on that time. We're chomping 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:00.679 up the world right here, he's right here, are you're 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:05.640 sitting next door? You're the frog champion in the world. 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:11.640 Oh my god, butting frogs. But that would put me 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:15.600 in All right, Okay, we're gonna get back to the crops. 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:17.040 We gotta do a couple of things. We're gonna get 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:18.880 back to the crawfish pond. We gotta cover off on 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:21.560 a little. You just gotta hang tight. But comment if 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:23.719 you feel like you need to comment. We had a 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:27.200 couple of news items. You gotta go through, uh, two 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:30.320 little things. I don't like hacking on vegans man at all. 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:33.559 It's not my thing to hack on vegans. God bless him. 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:36.080 But this guy rolled in with an interesting picture where 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:40.280 he's in Honolulu and he sees a restaurant called Vegan City. 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:48.720 It's called Vegan City, plant based comfort food. But above 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:52.680 the bar is a big TV and they're all watching 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:58.959 Meat Eater. So I thought it was cute. I love 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:03.880 I love to just as Here's another one. This is good. 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:06.920 This is like this guy is talking about the coolest 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:12.600 vegan he knew. Um. When this guy was in school. 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:16.920 They were at the University of Iowa. There's a class 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:19.040 you can take at the University of Iowa. I would 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:20.520 have taken the ship out of this class called the 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:25.719 history and culture of hunting in America. The instructor had 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:33.000 a friend who was had been vegan, but made it 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:38.440 their thing that they eight road kill because it's like 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:42.560 it's dead, it's dead by human cause, would otherwise go 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:48.559 to waste. And they would eat a possum, squirrel, raccoon, coyote, deer, 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:52.680 didn't matter. Huh. Lived down road kill back in college 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:54.360 of eating a little bit of real kill. Oh yeah, 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:57.560 it's not a vegan. You guys date road kill because 0:12:57.559 --> 0:13:00.920 that you need anything that moves pretty much. My favorite 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:12.600 was that my favorite vegetable is boiled crops. I'm with you. Uh, 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:14.720 it's kind of a weird deal out of Pennsylvania right now. 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:16.960 That's that's from Pennsylvania. So he's gonna talk about this. 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:19.360 Do you want me to lay the groundwork? Lay the 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:23.120 ground man? Okay, as people know, as people know, I 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:24.520 don't know if you know if this or not, but 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:28.080 it's interesting to know everybody's familiar with police have to 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:34.520 do warrants. Yeah, okay, Like for instance, right now, for 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:38.760 policeman's driving by. He can't just decide to come in 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:41.360 here and see if we're in here doing illicit drugs, 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:44.400 right He can't be like, yeah, I don't know, there's 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:46.720 people in there. Maybe I'm gonna barge in and see 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:50.840 what they're doing. And he can't sneak in here and 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:53.640 hide behind the Christmas tree over there to see if 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:57.160 someone does something bad, because he did, he probably cause 0:13:57.200 --> 0:14:00.880 and all this. Game wardens and any states have long 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:05.920 held like a special privilege where a game warden can 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:12.839 go on to private property and do investigations, do steakouts, 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:16.720 sneak around, go to your tree stand, check your license 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:22.560 without probable cause, without any kind of warrant. Some fellers 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:25.040 in Pennsylvania are bent out of shape. They got a 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:28.080 hunting club and they had some wardens come on to 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:33.000 their hunting club and give them some citations. They're not 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:37.320 challenging what the citations were about. They're challenging that that 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:44.360 person they got some libertarian attorney, and they're challenging that 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:49.680 it's unconstitutional for a warden to have the ability to 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:53.680 go onto private property without without do it, to do 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:59.160 warrantless search. Yeah, lay out some of the cultural implications here, Seth. 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:05.000 Seth sounds that thinks they sound whiny. Well, I I 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:08.360 almost like, I don't know, there's there's a whole. There's 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:13.040 like one very much one side of the story here, Um, 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:15.520 the side of the people who are not happy because 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:19.240 they got tickets. Yeah, like, it doesn't. It doesn't say 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:25.600 what they got tickets for. It does. You're wrong on well, 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:30.400 it goes down, it goes they got it. There's two citations, honey, 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:34.440 without a license, having a loaded gun in your vehicle. Okay, 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:42.000 I missed that part. The Horneck went on acense. So 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:44.640 they're saying that dude had no right to come on 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:49.480 our land anyway. Well, I guess, well he did, because 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:52.760 it's long that he's well, okay, they're they're challenging his 0:15:52.880 --> 0:16:00.200 right to do this. I don't know. I like growing 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:04.000 up in Pennsylvania. There's so many people that were anti 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:09.800 game commission right, oh buddy. And typically I won't say everyone, 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:13.880 but I'd say those people were anti game commission because 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:19.120 they were doing a legal ship. Mhm hm hm yeah, 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:22.200 strong words, Seth. Most of the time awarding the only 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:25.080 anti game commissioned person I know in Pennsylvania has related 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:30.720 to you closely the oddly enough for this oddly enough 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:34.000 what you just said. Most people that don't like warrings here, 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:37.760 it's because they were caught you're doing something illegal or 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:41.040 aren't they breaking the law? Yeah, well that might be 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:46.280 the same reason. People may be the same, Yeah, I think, 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:49.120 I think. Yeah, yeah, we're kids driving around. If you 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:51.200 saw a policeman you turned to the radio down and 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:53.480 everything and everybody sat up real straight and stuff. You 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:55.680 just felt like you were doing something bad. But let 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:58.240 me let me give a cup more details. What it's 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:04.280 called is open fields doctrine um the game ward's ability 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:07.320 to like like for instance, if a game ward. We're 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:08.879 talking to a game ward one time and he was, 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:12.800 I'll bring this up. This is an interesting story. He 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:18.720 was explaining why he was leery about suppressors because he 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:23.880 was saying, I rely on the sound of gunshots. Then 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:26.199 he went on to say it's hard for him to 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:28.680 finish a night of bowl hunting on a day off. 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:32.600 He said, every time I'm in my tree stand, I'm 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:40.959 sitting there and around dark, I hear and He's like, since, 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:44.480 depending on the timing and everything, I'm down out of 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:48.600 my tree and I'm heading that way. Now, a gunshot 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:51.000 would not like you should have gone off for all 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:55.360 manner of reasons, but he would you. He would hear 0:17:55.400 --> 0:18:00.879 that and head off onto the neighbor's place. Right, open 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:06.720 fields doctrine, but high courts in New York, Montana, Oregon, Vermont, 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:11.919 Washington state appeals courts have begun to strip wildlife agencies 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:19.639 of these special powers, arguing that the state constitutions grant 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:25.119 greater protections to citizens. We've got an email from a guy, 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:30.480 a civil engineer in Pennsylvania who just unrelated to this, 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:34.639 a big long, like a big long, very well articulated 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:39.040 email about what he feels has become a very aggressive 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:44.720 in his tape, in his mind, a very aggressive approach 0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:51.919 to um game wardening in his state. But again, he 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:57.440 had some violations. Yeah, it's just his side of the story. Yeah, 0:18:57.480 --> 0:19:00.640 the the officer, I'm hesitant to read a letter because 0:19:01.200 --> 0:19:03.439 I'd have to go and get a letter from the 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:06.600 officer about what happened. So it's it's it's kind of 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:09.960 like a moot point. But he points to that there's 0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:13.760 a lot of tension he feels as an increasing amount 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:19.560 of tension in Pennsylvania around enforcement approaching tactics. Yeah, and 0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:22.199 he went on to say on how he feels that 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:25.400 hunting is gonna go away in the state because of that. 0:19:26.200 --> 0:19:28.080 I don't think that that's probably true. I don't think 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:31.440 that's true either. I think that's a far stretch. Um, 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:35.359 but if a game warden wants to come on my 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:39.040 property and he's like, if he's suspicious that something's going 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:43.159 on for me, I'd be like, by all means, go 0:19:43.320 --> 0:19:44.720 do what you have to do. I mean, you're not 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:46.960 gonna like, you're not gonna find anything. All I'm gonna 0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:49.320 do is prove to you that there's like nothing for 0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:54.399 you to worry about here. Yeah, you know. And the 0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:56.720 game wardan that they're talking about the I don't know. 0:19:56.880 --> 0:19:58.360 I don't know if we want to mention his name, 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:02.280 but I've guy's checked me two different times in Turkey season, 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:07.280 had great encounters with him. That we had someone poaching 0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:10.439 turkeys on our property, called the game commission. He showed up. 0:20:11.240 --> 0:20:14.040 He sat in our camp at the table that we'd 0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:18.760 all sat around. Um, tell the big Elk story. Yeah, 0:20:18.760 --> 0:20:22.720 this guy is speaking of gunshots. This same guy, there's 0:20:22.760 --> 0:20:25.480 a bull elk. He ended up scoring like four or 0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:28.399 sixty right around four sixty something that doesn't even make sense. 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:32.960 SI grows massive elk. Anyway, this guy I had, we 0:20:33.000 --> 0:20:37.040 had trail camp pictures of that bowl on our property. 0:20:37.440 --> 0:20:40.000 Um he one night there. I think he was like 0:20:40.040 --> 0:20:47.000 suspicious of some elk poaching going on anyway. Um one 0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:50.560 night he went up close to our property just at 0:20:50.680 --> 0:20:55.119 night in September, UM and just sat up there in 0:20:55.119 --> 0:21:00.879 the dark, listen listening, had listening post, and all of 0:21:00.920 --> 0:21:04.840 a sudden just heard a gunshot and went over there 0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:09.680 and found that it's actually a kid that went to 0:21:09.760 --> 0:21:13.080 my high school, graduated I think a year or two 0:21:13.080 --> 0:21:17.440 ahead of me. Um had killed this bowl and was 0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:19.480 cutting the antlers off of it when he showed up. 0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:27.440 Yeah yeah on private property. Uh yeah, most likely because 0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:33.160 all it's all private around there. Called him red handed. Yeah. 0:21:33.840 --> 0:21:36.960 So you've had a lot of adjacency and interactions to 0:21:37.000 --> 0:21:39.199 this individual and it has not been you're finding that 0:21:39.240 --> 0:21:42.480 he's coming around busting your balls unnecessary. He's been nothing 0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:48.800 but helped us. M hmmm. Plot dickens. So plot thickens. 0:21:49.720 --> 0:21:52.119 I feel like, and I know, like I don't know 0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:55.040 this guy real well. I just I've talked to him, 0:21:55.040 --> 0:21:58.280 you know, a handful of times, and all my interactions 0:21:58.280 --> 0:22:00.440 with him have been great. I feel like he's not 0:22:00.800 --> 0:22:04.480 going around and harassing people for no reason. I feel 0:22:04.480 --> 0:22:08.080 like if he has probable cause or you know whatever, 0:22:08.080 --> 0:22:11.080 you think something's going on, he's gonna do something about it. 0:22:12.040 --> 0:22:16.440 So I don't know, I think I think you're you're 0:22:16.480 --> 0:22:18.439 taking these guys got a little chap ass because they 0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:22.399 got some tickets. Yeah, they're obviously doing illegal ship and 0:22:22.440 --> 0:22:25.639 they got caught doing it. So they're bitter about the 0:22:25.640 --> 0:22:31.520 game commission sounds like it thanks with reports. I don't think. Yeah, 0:22:31.720 --> 0:22:33.640 I don't have a problem with the game warden coming 0:22:33.680 --> 0:22:37.240 on my on our like our family's property, you know. 0:22:37.240 --> 0:22:38.920 I always that's That's one of the things I always 0:22:38.960 --> 0:22:42.120 asked laid On man, is remember when when they had 0:22:42.160 --> 0:22:45.760 those uh they had some domestic terrorists and they wanted 0:22:45.760 --> 0:22:48.760 to get into their phone real bad. Yeah, and uh, 0:22:48.960 --> 0:22:51.040 they couldn't get it. Took him forever. Apple wouldn't let 0:22:51.080 --> 0:22:56.520 him into the guy's phone, the guy's wife's phone. Part 0:22:56.560 --> 0:22:58.160 of my mind's like, I don't know, man, have someone 0:22:58.320 --> 0:22:59.680 to take a look at my phone. I'd just belay 0:22:59.720 --> 0:23:07.080 here could be board ship. Yeah, I just I don't, 0:23:07.080 --> 0:23:09.600 I don't, I don't know. I guess I'm just playing 0:23:09.640 --> 0:23:11.720 Devil's advocate a little bit. I have no problems with you, 0:23:11.920 --> 0:23:14.320 I see, but like you know, I see the civil Yeah, 0:23:14.520 --> 0:23:18.560 I definitely see the civility, the sorry, the civil liberties 0:23:18.880 --> 0:23:24.359 end of it. But I also see that uh that, Um, 0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:29.000 I don't know, man, I guess I'm comfortable with the 0:23:29.000 --> 0:23:35.280 distinction between between of someone's like a wardens, right to 0:23:35.359 --> 0:23:37.800 roam across the landscape. I don't think they're coming into 0:23:37.800 --> 0:23:41.360 houses and busting down doors like their right to roam 0:23:41.400 --> 0:23:46.399 across the landscape. UM. Doing that sort of work feels 0:23:46.440 --> 0:23:49.160 different to me than then saying okay, So then if 0:23:49.200 --> 0:23:51.800 that's true, police can just enter your home when they 0:23:51.840 --> 0:23:54.240 want for no reason. Like I just don't. I don't 0:23:54.240 --> 0:23:57.560 feel that there's the probability of a ton of confusion there. 0:23:58.040 --> 0:24:00.640 I'm curious about what the optics would be if they 0:24:00.640 --> 0:24:04.240 didn't have any citations drawing on like they did have 0:24:04.280 --> 0:24:05.960 a license, they didn't have the gun, would they still 0:24:06.000 --> 0:24:08.280 have the same opinion about the game warden coming on 0:24:08.320 --> 0:24:11.760 their property. They probably forgot about it very quickly. I 0:24:12.920 --> 0:24:17.040 can see if a game warden was like had a 0:24:17.119 --> 0:24:21.920 strong feeling that. For instance, I'll put myself in this situation. 0:24:21.960 --> 0:24:24.240 If if a game warden thought I was doing something 0:24:24.240 --> 0:24:29.240 wrong on on my property, and it was constantly harassing me, 0:24:29.880 --> 0:24:33.760 but constantly not not finding anything, but still like constantly 0:24:33.800 --> 0:24:35.960 harassing me. Like first day, opening day of deer season. 0:24:36.000 --> 0:24:40.119 He like at first light, he shows up my tree stand. Like, 0:24:40.440 --> 0:24:44.000 I could see getting pretty irritated about that. Yeah, that's 0:24:44.040 --> 0:24:46.960 a good point. Nothing's turning up, but it was making 0:24:46.960 --> 0:24:50.880 your life hell because of some unfounded suspicion. I could 0:24:50.880 --> 0:24:56.440 see that being very frustrating. But I just I've never 0:24:56.480 --> 0:25:00.959 experienced anything like that. I have a hard time, a 0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:04.080 hard time, like believing that a lot of that goes on. 0:25:05.320 --> 0:25:07.639 If they're not finding anything and they you know, I 0:25:07.960 --> 0:25:11.639 feel like they're just gonna move on to other ship. Yeah, 0:25:12.280 --> 0:25:15.000 try to go right, some tickets somewhere. Yeah. I feel 0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:16.560 like if if that would go through and they would 0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:19.800 not allow the game warrants to go without a warrant, 0:25:20.160 --> 0:25:22.080 I feel like that'd be a huge loss for wildlife 0:25:22.080 --> 0:25:24.399 because I feel like a lot of people with private 0:25:24.480 --> 0:25:27.160 land would just take advantage figure that, Oh, I can 0:25:27.160 --> 0:25:29.720 make my own rules now, Game Warran ain't coming over 0:25:29.960 --> 0:25:32.200 unless I guess, I guess they get reported. But or 0:25:32.280 --> 0:25:34.119 dudes that hunt public land and start getting help with 0:25:34.280 --> 0:25:42.119 more tickets. Be like, dude, all the pressures on us now? Uh, okay, 0:25:42.119 --> 0:25:45.360 we got a couple of chetakot are you I will? I? 0:25:45.400 --> 0:25:48.679 Can you quickly tackle all three of these? Chester I 0:25:48.840 --> 0:25:51.440 was actually coming up with a plan how to tackle 0:25:51.480 --> 0:25:54.480 them real quick. Okay. Um, so chett, well, let me 0:25:54.480 --> 0:25:58.320 team him up. Okay. So this is the chettackot section 0:25:59.000 --> 0:26:00.919 and we find out whether they are chetical or not. 0:26:01.200 --> 0:26:02.879 Do you like a new one? I don't know who 0:26:02.960 --> 0:26:07.800 came up with that? Yeah, um the first one. There's 0:26:07.840 --> 0:26:11.000 three of them here. First one's about your your honeyholes, 0:26:11.080 --> 0:26:16.119 or you're hunting fishing spots. One guy um was hunting 0:26:16.119 --> 0:26:19.480 with his ex wife and his father in law. Um 0:26:19.600 --> 0:26:22.600 or he was hunting with his wife and his then 0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:25.680 wife and his father and then father in law. UM 0:26:26.000 --> 0:26:28.600 took him out to his spot and his wife shot 0:26:28.640 --> 0:26:32.240 a buck of a lifetime. And uh, he must not 0:26:32.320 --> 0:26:34.760 have liked his ex father in law because he had 0:26:34.800 --> 0:26:40.400 to throw in there. My ex father in law wounded. Um. 0:26:40.520 --> 0:26:45.520 I noticed that. Yeah, and that was um. I learned 0:26:45.520 --> 0:26:47.320 a new word with my wife the r D. I 0:26:47.359 --> 0:26:51.240 think that that's called a microaggression. Yeah, just the he's 0:26:51.240 --> 0:26:53.720 like what what what? He wounded one? I'm just telling 0:26:53.720 --> 0:26:55.720 you he wouldn't, you know. But it's like it's like 0:26:56.080 --> 0:27:01.320 a little it's a little jam. Yea. So the ex 0:27:01.400 --> 0:27:04.320 father in law wounded one. Um, but it must have 0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:07.320 been a pretty good spot because that four years later 0:27:08.000 --> 0:27:10.280 the guy goes in this spot and there he sees 0:27:10.320 --> 0:27:12.239 his ex father in law. We left out that they 0:27:12.240 --> 0:27:15.960 had a divorce, yes, well ex father in all okay, 0:27:16.040 --> 0:27:20.560 yeah yeah, so this this guy is in there hunting 0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:24.159 this hunt this spot. And I know we've covered this before. 0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:28.320 Spots and my take on this, and it's real simple. 0:27:28.800 --> 0:27:34.840 If some dude shows you a spot, um, especially like 0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:39.239 a smaller spot, well, just in regards to anything like 0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:43.200 any spot situation, like, it's always good to ask if 0:27:43.200 --> 0:27:45.520 you're going to go in there. That's like a very 0:27:45.560 --> 0:27:49.800 simple way. Here's the thing. Go on, don't don't go 0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:51.120 on to number two. But I got something to say 0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:53.160 about number one. All of these things have a bunch 0:27:53.160 --> 0:27:55.480 of gray area there too. Like I don't know how 0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:58.119 big this spot is. It could be a giant public 0:27:58.200 --> 0:28:03.239 land spot. Um. I got to you can go off, 0:28:03.359 --> 0:28:07.520 go fight, You're right, I agree with you in general. Yeah, 0:28:08.160 --> 0:28:10.880 if you have a spot and you take your father 0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:15.199 in law out, and then you get a divorce and 0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:17.240 he stops being your father in law. I feel the 0:28:17.240 --> 0:28:18.840 father in law needs to move on and find a 0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:23.679 new spot because the divorce ended that relationship. But I 0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:27.680 don't know the details of the divorce. If this guy 0:28:27.680 --> 0:28:33.520 that wrote in was a flanderer and that behavior led 0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:36.720 to the divorce, and there was some other ugly factors 0:28:36.760 --> 0:28:39.880 involved in the divorce, this father in law might not 0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:43.080 even like hunting. He's just doing anything. You can you 0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:47.120 ever say a movie in the bedroom, he's just doing everything. 0:28:47.440 --> 0:28:52.440 Lobster Fisher, Huh, But I wouldn't guess that by the title. Well, 0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:54.640 it's it's a part of a lobster trap, got you 0:28:55.480 --> 0:28:58.360 in the bedroom part of lobster Anyways, this father in 0:28:58.440 --> 0:29:02.880 law kills his wife's ex husband. I kind of ruined 0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:07.680 the movie. It's in the end, but spoiler. So it 0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:09.480 might be that he was sticking it to the guy, 0:29:10.720 --> 0:29:16.400 sticking it to him over something that we don't know about. Yeah, 0:29:16.560 --> 0:29:18.720 but you do. But here's the thing. In your position 0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:24.000 as the check at man, you can't be bogged down 0:29:24.080 --> 0:29:28.000 by all the unknowns. Yes, and here's another lesson on that. 0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:32.280 For this guy who took the father in law, it 0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:34.680 sounds like he didn't quite really like him. If you're 0:29:34.680 --> 0:29:38.000 gonna take someone out to your good hunting spot, make 0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:41.080 sure you really like him. Make sure they like good buddy, 0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:45.440 you know, which can you know, things can change, things 0:29:45.440 --> 0:29:48.320 can change down the road, But just do your do 0:29:48.400 --> 0:29:50.960 your best to you know, have a good good buddy. 0:29:51.480 --> 0:29:54.600 You know, I don't. You're a married Manchester. Yeah, I've 0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:59.120 been married a hell but longer than you, uh in 0:29:59.200 --> 0:30:01.720 that situation, and it might not be that he could. 0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:07.040 It might not be that he could. Uh, you know, 0:30:07.200 --> 0:30:10.280 you gotta be like, there's about there's some politics involved 0:30:10.280 --> 0:30:12.760 and being married man. Yeah, she's like, well, how come 0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:17.200 we don't take my dad hunting? Look, let me come on. Oh, 0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:19.479 I know what you're saying big time. It might be 0:30:19.520 --> 0:30:21.320 like if someone you know, your wife asked you to 0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:23.880 do something, you just do it. Yeah. So that's why 0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:27.080 you have B and C spots. Yeah, there you go. 0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:30.640 I got just a spot for you. It's not right hunt. 0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:36.239 Put him in the car, put him in the bring him, 0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:39.600 bring him to the muck. Okay, another one here next, 0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:42.480 whether or not the next cheddicker question, So this is 0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:46.800 a property thing. This guy bought forty acres of land, 0:30:47.200 --> 0:30:50.200 wanted to have his own little chunk to hunt. Oh no, 0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:56.040 thirty acres of land um and the back thirty um. 0:30:56.120 --> 0:31:02.640 And he is got a little confrontation maybe or not confrontation, 0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:05.880 but his neighbors have uh deer stands set up right 0:31:05.920 --> 0:31:09.000 on the property line in an old ground blind set 0:31:09.080 --> 0:31:12.080 up right on the property line. Even mentions that it's 0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:17.040 potentially on their property just a little bit, but he's 0:31:17.080 --> 0:31:21.280 not quite sure. And anyways, uh, and he's like, should 0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:25.200 I confront these guys? Is that wrong? Am I being wrong? 0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:30.000 Since they were there first? What should I do? We 0:31:30.080 --> 0:31:33.520 grew up on our property in Wisconsin that is pretty 0:31:33.520 --> 0:31:38.959 good hunting. Um a lot of deer, especially during big 0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:45.080 box um running all over the place. Anyways, our neighbors 0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:49.800 definitely know that, and they set up right around the 0:31:49.840 --> 0:31:55.160 outside of our property and there's not on our property. 0:31:55.200 --> 0:31:59.480 But it definitely is kind of like, I don't know, 0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:02.440 it's a little annoying, you know, because it's like if 0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:06.040 that guy saw that big back walking on our property 0:32:06.120 --> 0:32:10.920 line just inside, would that guy be able to hold 0:32:10.920 --> 0:32:14.160 out and not shoot that deer. You know, it just 0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:17.640 depends on the person. But there's really nothing you can 0:32:17.680 --> 0:32:22.120 do there there If they're on their property, Um, you know, 0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:24.880 they have every right to set that blind up. I 0:32:24.880 --> 0:32:28.280 would recommend if you have that situation, we don't have 0:32:28.320 --> 0:32:31.840 any any tree stands set up right on our property lines, 0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:36.960 just to avoid that conflict. But you know, potentially so. 0:32:37.320 --> 0:32:40.080 But help this guy out with this question. I know 0:32:40.160 --> 0:32:42.200 that he doesn't He probably knows that he doesn't have 0:32:42.240 --> 0:32:44.480 any authority to make them move, but he's trying to 0:32:44.520 --> 0:32:49.640 figure out how should I feel about them? Sure? Yeah, 0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:52.520 I mean that's like depends on what kind of people 0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:54.840 they are, too, Like if he gets to knows his 0:32:54.920 --> 0:32:57.720 neighbors and they're kind of shysty like if they could 0:32:57.720 --> 0:32:59.960 shoot a dear, then I would feel a little worried. 0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:05.440 And you know, I think you should go talk to him. 0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:08.320 Does it like to say that he knows him? Well, 0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:11.480 it's his neighbors. He he says, Should I confront them 0:33:11.480 --> 0:33:14.520 about it? Should I suck it up and avoid it 0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:16.600 or bring it up to them? And I think if 0:33:16.600 --> 0:33:18.560 they're your neighbors, you might as well go over there 0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:20.320 and have a chat with them, because you're living right 0:33:20.320 --> 0:33:22.719 next time, regardless, I would go over and be like, listen, 0:33:22.760 --> 0:33:25.720 I see you have a stand close to the property line. 0:33:25.760 --> 0:33:29.320 Does he have a stand closer there too, No, he's 0:33:29.320 --> 0:33:33.000 It sounds like he's staying off the property lines. I 0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:34.600 was gonna say, I'd go over there and be like, listen, 0:33:34.640 --> 0:33:37.560 if you like, if we communicate a little bit, you 0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:39.960 let me know when you're hunting that stand. I know 0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:43.680 it's close to the property line. If you know, let 0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:46.360 me know when you're hunting that, I'll haunt a different spot, 0:33:46.520 --> 0:33:50.320 or vice versa. I'll tell you what I think. Maybe 0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:52.240 I don't know. I'd have to know a little more 0:33:52.240 --> 0:33:53.960 about the neighbors. You could also go over there and 0:33:54.000 --> 0:34:00.000 propose a solution. You could say, you know what, really, 0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:02.040 I could put a stand up and we could sit 0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:05.080 back to back. Right, you're looking into your place, me 0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:09.600 looking at my place. No one really wants that. Would 0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:14.800 you want to agree to a little gentleman's agreement that, uh, 0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:17.040 we don't put stands within a hundred yards of that 0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:24.319 Border'll honor that. Yeah, you want a little co op? Yeah, now, 0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:25.840 I know. Here's I don't want to tell you. I 0:34:25.880 --> 0:34:27.399 don't want to say where This is because I don't 0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:30.719 want to embarrass anybody. But I know some folks with 0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:35.000 the with the property in Texas low fence, this is 0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:38.040 not a high fence property, and they have a very 0:34:38.080 --> 0:34:41.319 tightly managed deer program on their property and they've had 0:34:41.320 --> 0:34:43.840 a lot of problems with these neighbors. Have a parcel 0:34:43.880 --> 0:34:47.720 that borders there's and they don't have a tightly managed 0:34:47.760 --> 0:34:53.080 deer program, and that all their stands we're on the edge. 0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:55.040 Because they knew that they had they were that they 0:34:55.040 --> 0:35:01.839 had big box um, they Avenge Sleep made a They 0:35:01.840 --> 0:35:07.000 eventually put a deer fence on one edge of their property, 0:35:09.280 --> 0:35:10.920 had a buddy do the same thing, put it do 0:35:11.040 --> 0:35:16.240 their fence just on one They got so tense between 0:35:16.280 --> 0:35:18.719 them and the neighbors. And I know, and I know 0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:21.480 from just from hearing from the people. I know his 0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:26.960 perspective that they did share with the neighbors here like 0:35:27.040 --> 0:35:29.279 here's what we're trying to accomplish here with like a 0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:35.000 deer management program. Um, you know, let's try to work 0:35:35.000 --> 0:35:38.560 together on it. Um. But they just felt they're being 0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:41.800 a little bit taken advantage of and that was their solution. 0:35:43.000 --> 0:35:46.279 M Interesting. I had a buddy and they have a 0:35:46.360 --> 0:35:48.520 ranch over in the King's Ranch in Texas, and they 0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:52.480 have the same issue that their neighbor on the bordering side. 0:35:52.760 --> 0:35:56.520 It was putting up stands and um guiding hunts to 0:35:56.560 --> 0:36:01.600 shoot the bucks coming off of the bow only ranch. 0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:04.440 So they were real strict on their management, you know, 0:36:04.800 --> 0:36:08.840 certain only certain hundred fifty plus inch deer being shot 0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:11.560 with a bow. And that guy was putting a hunter, 0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:14.760 a different hunter every day in that stand on the border. 0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:16.200 And they did the same thing. They put up a 0:36:16.239 --> 0:36:20.480 deer fence and cut them off with the just just 0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:23.440 a high game fence on one side the border, just 0:36:23.520 --> 0:36:25.880 to keep those deer from going to that dude that 0:36:25.920 --> 0:36:29.799 guy at him just killing them all, Okay. Chadic at 0:36:29.840 --> 0:36:32.839 number three, Jack at number three. This guy lives in 0:36:33.160 --> 0:36:37.640 California's Sacramento Valley between two mountain ranges. He says, it's 0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:41.000 let's just say it's not San Francisco. Bear hunting was 0:36:41.239 --> 0:36:45.400 outlawed ten years ago with dogs. You can't run bears 0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:50.440 with dogs out there anymore. Um. And this guy was 0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:52.360 out bear hunting one day and he ran across a 0:36:52.400 --> 0:36:58.359 couple of pickup trucks with some guys with dogs, and uh, 0:36:58.520 --> 0:37:01.040 the guy said, they made it clear that they weren't hunting, 0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:04.160 they weren't after bears with these dogs, But sounds like 0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:08.759 they're probably clearly houndsmen training dogs, training dogs, which I 0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:11.520 would have to do some research on this, Like I 0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:14.839 don't know what the laws are for running dogs, you know, 0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:20.600 for training purposes during bear season in California. It sounds 0:37:20.640 --> 0:37:24.080 like there could be some illegal activity going on there. 0:37:24.160 --> 0:37:29.120 I already, but I'm not a percent sure on that. Anyways, 0:37:29.160 --> 0:37:32.000 these guys are, you know, let their hounds out, and 0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:36.839 this other guys trying to bear hunt legally. Um, and 0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:40.919 you know, dog it's kind of obviously blowing his hunt 0:37:40.960 --> 0:37:45.680 because the dogs are barking three ridges over. Um. He 0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:50.320 just feels, you know, that it's not not right or 0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:53.719 not ethical to be doing that during bear season. Um. 0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:57.200 He says he hates to report people, but laws are lodged. 0:37:57.680 --> 0:38:02.160 Laws are laws, and I don't by bus. Um. So 0:38:02.400 --> 0:38:05.880 it sounds like this guy thought these guys were running bears, 0:38:06.640 --> 0:38:11.680 is what what I gather from this, which obviously is illegal. 0:38:12.000 --> 0:38:15.000 So I mean, I'd have to just research this one 0:38:15.040 --> 0:38:17.920 more because I don't know, can you run do you 0:38:17.920 --> 0:38:20.279 think you could run dogs? During bear season just for 0:38:20.360 --> 0:38:26.640 training purposes. Uh. I don't know the answer to that. Yeah, Uh, 0:38:26.760 --> 0:38:29.120 if it is that you can. It brings up this 0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:31.560 question that we've had people right in about before. Remember 0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:35.719 when Kevin Murphy got harassed by archery deer hunters for 0:38:35.800 --> 0:38:39.560 hunting squirrels because they felt that their activity, they felt 0:38:39.600 --> 0:38:45.160 that archery hunting deer, their archery hunting of deer, was 0:38:45.200 --> 0:38:47.240 more important than his hunting of squirrels. He was actually 0:38:47.280 --> 0:38:52.719 in Michigan, so he got harassed by bow hunters who 0:38:52.719 --> 0:38:55.560 were mad that he had the audacity to be out 0:38:55.680 --> 0:39:00.680 hunting squirrels during the white tail rut. Yeah, and he 0:39:00.760 --> 0:39:03.600 thought that was some bullshit. Yeah. I mean, every everybody 0:39:03.640 --> 0:39:08.880 has right right to do to use the landscape, like 0:39:08.920 --> 0:39:11.799 if they're if they are filling the law. Do you 0:39:12.000 --> 0:39:15.600 not go do certain things because other people are doing 0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:20.120 certain things. I'll point out that, Um, just recently, when 0:39:20.160 --> 0:39:22.440 I was home visiting my mom, I was taking the 0:39:22.520 --> 0:39:26.040 kids out squirrel hunting, and I was aware and cognizant 0:39:26.040 --> 0:39:30.440 of the fact that it was firearm deer and I 0:39:30.560 --> 0:39:33.920 didn't wanna like go into places where a truck was 0:39:33.960 --> 0:39:39.200 parked because some guy was hunting deer and I felt 0:39:39.200 --> 0:39:43.000 like me coming through with all my kids hunting squirrels 0:39:43.000 --> 0:39:44.439 would have been a little I don't know, it felt 0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:47.799 a little rude to me, So I would I kind 0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:50.359 of like stuck to stuff real close to the road 0:39:50.440 --> 0:39:52.120 and whatnot because I don't want to blow something. Dudes, 0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:55.920 deer hunt. Was I allowed to do it? Sure? Yeah? 0:39:56.000 --> 0:39:59.400 I think communication Like if these guys are legal and 0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:04.160 able to run dogs during during bear season, I think, um, 0:40:04.320 --> 0:40:08.400 communication would be huge there. So these bear these you know, 0:40:08.440 --> 0:40:11.879 houndsmen aren't ruining this guy's bear hunt. Try and send 0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:15.640 him another way, and the actual bear hunter had the 0:40:15.640 --> 0:40:19.640 other way. But yeah, I gotta note a little more 0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:31.799 about what's going on a couple more things on hound hunting, 0:40:31.800 --> 0:40:33.400 because you know, the whole Vermont thing, right, Like we 0:40:33.480 --> 0:40:36.719 covered that dude in Vermont. I think it's gonna come 0:40:36.760 --> 0:40:38.200 on the show. I think we're working on the gold 0:40:38.200 --> 0:40:41.200 Shaw farm dude. And he made a very good YouTube 0:40:41.320 --> 0:40:45.080 video like a rebuttal. We came after him pretty hard. 0:40:46.080 --> 0:40:48.719 He made a whole YouTube rebuttal. The guy's driving this 0:40:48.760 --> 0:40:51.840 petition to end hound hunting or a change hound hunting. 0:40:52.280 --> 0:40:54.800 Someone rolled into like a little bit of the story 0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:56.960 that that I didn't know about, because there was this 0:40:57.400 --> 0:41:01.120 very publicized case from two thousand eight teen in Vermont 0:41:01.680 --> 0:41:06.800 about the tension between hound hunters and the non hunting public. 0:41:08.200 --> 0:41:10.880 A there there this thing got a ton of attention 0:41:11.920 --> 0:41:17.719 where a pack of hound hunters dogs apparently attacked this 0:41:17.920 --> 0:41:21.560 couple of walking in the woods and attack their dog 0:41:21.640 --> 0:41:25.120 pretty good, and it went out a long time. The 0:41:25.200 --> 0:41:28.240 people got bit, their dog got bit, and that caused 0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:31.879 a lot of uh consternation about to what degree are 0:41:31.920 --> 0:41:37.200 these hounds under control? Because these people it sounds like 0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:40.200 I don't fully understand it. It sounds like this attack 0:41:40.280 --> 0:41:44.480 on them and their dogs went on for like ninety minutes. Jeez. 0:41:46.440 --> 0:41:50.080 In the end, the hound hunter walked away with five points. 0:41:50.280 --> 0:41:53.839 I don't know how the point system works, walked away 0:41:53.840 --> 0:41:58.560 with five points on his license and a couple hundred 0:41:58.600 --> 0:42:01.600 bucks in the fine. And people are pointing out that 0:42:01.600 --> 0:42:03.200 if you were in a county park, if you were 0:42:03.200 --> 0:42:05.520 in a city park and your dog came up and 0:42:05.560 --> 0:42:07.880 bit some people and attacked the dog for ninety minutes, 0:42:07.960 --> 0:42:12.040 your dog be euthanized. But people felt that this dude 0:42:12.080 --> 0:42:16.799 walked with a slap on the wrist and certainly did 0:42:16.840 --> 0:42:19.319 not have his dogs under any kind of control for 0:42:19.360 --> 0:42:21.080 them to be able to chase these people around for 0:42:21.160 --> 0:42:26.680 ninety minutes. That is bizarre. Again, Man, two sides of 0:42:26.680 --> 0:42:30.400 the story, I think. Man, I love hound hunting, absolutely 0:42:30.400 --> 0:42:34.760 love it. I want hounds of my own someday. Um, 0:42:34.920 --> 0:42:38.360 there's always conflicts with hound hunters and the general public. 0:42:38.440 --> 0:42:40.960 I just need to be like very responsible about it. 0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:43.799 I think it would end a lot of problems. Here's 0:42:43.840 --> 0:42:47.319 nothing to just happened in Vermont, kind of the rus 0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:50.160 oude of the coin. You know, we always talk about 0:42:50.200 --> 0:42:53.680 the right to hunt laws and whatever happens. Well, some 0:42:53.800 --> 0:43:02.839 hound hunters we're out uh Groton State Forest. Okay, they're 0:43:02.920 --> 0:43:07.800 they're tracking a black bear and the bear goes on 0:43:07.920 --> 0:43:12.960 to private property. Okay. The hunters legally enter the woods 0:43:13.760 --> 0:43:17.560 from Buzzy's Road it's called, and they retrieve their hounds. 0:43:17.600 --> 0:43:20.120 So they're in there within law because they go to 0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:22.080 get their dogs, but don't kill a bear out of 0:43:22.120 --> 0:43:25.000 the tree. Leave the bear in the tree, get their hearts, 0:43:25.120 --> 0:43:29.160 their dogs, get back to their truck, and there's two ladies. 0:43:29.200 --> 0:43:32.440 They're letting all the air out of their tires. Then 0:43:32.480 --> 0:43:37.839 one of these ladies releases a German shepherd hurt. Let's 0:43:37.880 --> 0:43:40.399 hurt German shepherd out, which then gets into a fight 0:43:40.480 --> 0:43:44.359 with the bear hunters hound and beats the hound dog 0:43:44.480 --> 0:43:48.680 up bad enough where it needed veterinarian care. The women 0:43:48.719 --> 0:43:52.440 got fined, found guilty in court. The bear hunters were 0:43:52.480 --> 0:43:56.799 acting awfully. She was acting unlawfully. Sons, legit to me, 0:43:57.440 --> 0:44:00.200 she's shotting that turned those dogs loose. That chap right, 0:44:00.880 --> 0:44:03.319 you shouldn't let their other tires. Well, no, I mean, 0:44:04.719 --> 0:44:09.640 if if the hunters were following the law, she had 0:44:09.760 --> 0:44:12.960 no right to do what she did. I could see 0:44:12.960 --> 0:44:16.360 when the courts. I mean, we're all sitting here and 0:44:16.400 --> 0:44:19.600 probably we'll all agree she was wrong. I think so. Yeah. 0:44:19.600 --> 0:44:21.520 I don't know about that state, but in some states 0:44:21.800 --> 0:44:24.560 they the houndsman probably could have legally killed her dog. 0:44:25.480 --> 0:44:28.680 Mm hmm. Yeah. There's gotta be some kind of formal 0:44:28.719 --> 0:44:31.520 animal cruelty to to make your dog attack somebody else's dog. 0:44:31.920 --> 0:44:35.120 I mean, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I 0:44:35.360 --> 0:44:38.280 have my property in Mississippi and where we did hunt. 0:44:38.320 --> 0:44:43.760 We still hunt only but we have neighbors that hand hunt. 0:44:44.800 --> 0:44:48.360 It's a constant problem. You guys get a lot of disputes. 0:44:49.760 --> 0:44:53.759 I tried to avoid it, but the others around us 0:44:53.880 --> 0:45:04.719 that it's gotten serious. Lord, really serious. Grant Uh. I 0:45:04.760 --> 0:45:08.960 can be sitting at camp and at midnight you hear 0:45:09.000 --> 0:45:12.759 a bunch of hounds chasing the deer on my property. 0:45:13.719 --> 0:45:17.840 They'll run their dogs in the evening and the dogs 0:45:17.840 --> 0:45:22.160 will run off, and the hunters don't retrieve their their hounds. 0:45:22.880 --> 0:45:25.160 So the dogs are staying in the woods all their lawn, 0:45:26.000 --> 0:45:30.640 chasing deer all around my property. It's it's a hard 0:45:30.719 --> 0:45:35.040 thing to swallow when you know you're dedicated to still hunting. 0:45:35.280 --> 0:45:38.800 You you're trying to manage your property for still hunting, 0:45:39.560 --> 0:45:42.480 and you got and look at hounds. We see them 0:45:42.480 --> 0:45:45.680 in the morning with their collars, they come to the 0:45:46.200 --> 0:45:49.440 we feed them. You can tell some of them are starving. 0:45:50.160 --> 0:45:55.040 They all have callers with the owners names on them. Um, 0:45:55.480 --> 0:46:00.759 it's a constant, it doesn't stop. It's cons that if 0:46:00.800 --> 0:46:03.279 I was a hound hunter, I'd take a two pronged approach. Man. 0:46:04.239 --> 0:46:09.000 I would be fighting like like, fighting like hell to 0:46:09.080 --> 0:46:12.600 protect my rights as a hound hunter. And I would 0:46:12.600 --> 0:46:16.480 be fighting like hell to like to have a buttoned 0:46:16.560 --> 0:46:20.759 up program and avoid conflict with other hunters. You know what, 0:46:20.800 --> 0:46:24.520 you have to understand a dog. He doesn't know what 0:46:24.560 --> 0:46:28.360 a fence line is. He can't read it, keep out saying, 0:46:29.760 --> 0:46:33.840 I mean it's in his nachere to run. He'll cross 0:46:33.920 --> 0:46:39.560 property lines. And and I can understand a dog running 0:46:39.719 --> 0:46:43.520 five ten miles. It's hard for mental and foot to 0:46:43.600 --> 0:46:49.560 keep up with a dog running through hilly territory. So 0:46:49.760 --> 0:46:54.960 I can. I can deal with the occasional hound running 0:46:54.960 --> 0:47:00.000 around my place at night, but it's constant. It doesn't 0:47:00.040 --> 0:47:06.839 top there was a problem. What's the benefit of of 0:47:07.280 --> 0:47:12.799 running hounds aside from actually like what what do they 0:47:12.840 --> 0:47:15.720 get out of it? Besides the exhilaration of actually owning 0:47:15.840 --> 0:47:18.360 hounds and hearing that and chasing a lot of areas. 0:47:18.360 --> 0:47:24.320 That's the only way to effectively hunt bears, beder hounds, lions. 0:47:25.600 --> 0:47:28.360 I mean it's like a traditional youth practice, man. You go, 0:47:28.480 --> 0:47:31.279 I mean people were, people were you know, like this 0:47:31.360 --> 0:47:35.520 is a little known thing. You go back like Daniel Boone, Okay, 0:47:36.760 --> 0:47:40.600 that's how they hunted bears. Yeah there there if you 0:47:40.600 --> 0:47:45.840 go reader even up into the hundreds, like the Cherokee Choctaw. 0:47:46.160 --> 0:47:50.640 I mean they hunted bears with dogs, going back it's 0:47:50.920 --> 0:47:53.320 a traditional youth practice. And I'm asking the question to 0:47:53.400 --> 0:47:58.759 somebody who has very little insight into hound hunting, like 0:47:58.760 --> 0:48:00.719 this is all very new information. And so it's been 0:48:00.800 --> 0:48:04.560 kind of really interesting to hear this conversation go on 0:48:04.640 --> 0:48:11.799 because we used to hunt rabbits with beagles. Yeah, and 0:48:11.840 --> 0:48:16.520 it's always like it's always you know, so you got 0:48:18.880 --> 0:48:21.480 people to do one thing. I feel like I've told 0:48:21.480 --> 0:48:23.160 the story hunter times. I'm not gonna tell it again. 0:48:25.280 --> 0:48:27.520 People tend to think that what they've always done is 0:48:27.560 --> 0:48:30.560 dead on balls, right, and that what everybody else does 0:48:30.640 --> 0:48:34.840 is bad. So you've got guys that hunt birds with dogs, 0:48:35.440 --> 0:48:38.560 and that's that's the kind of stuff you make paintings 0:48:38.600 --> 0:48:41.239 about and hanging your house. But the guy that hunts 0:48:41.320 --> 0:48:45.480 something else with the dog, that's the savage. You know. 0:48:45.680 --> 0:48:49.239 It's like you shouldn't be able to trap because what 0:48:49.360 --> 0:48:52.319 if something happens to the dog that I use to 0:48:52.440 --> 0:48:56.560 kill stuff that I like to kill. Mhm. It's just 0:48:57.680 --> 0:49:04.600 you know, people are there's a ton of tribalism. There's 0:49:04.600 --> 0:49:09.040 a ton of tribalism. And before, like before I had 0:49:09.080 --> 0:49:12.279 such a before I had the luxury of being around, 0:49:12.880 --> 0:49:16.640 traveling around throughout the country so much and being exposed 0:49:16.680 --> 0:49:20.480 to all the different hunting cultures that exists in the country, 0:49:20.640 --> 0:49:22.799 I was guilty the same stuff. I was like, what 0:49:23.160 --> 0:49:29.319 I do is very right. I you know, I we 0:49:29.560 --> 0:49:32.880 hunt dear the right way and everyone else does it 0:49:32.960 --> 0:49:36.759 the wrong way. It's just this very like provincial attitude. 0:49:38.440 --> 0:49:40.040 I think it's got a lot to do it what 0:49:40.160 --> 0:49:44.719 you were raised in too, sure to generations. You know, 0:49:44.960 --> 0:49:52.000 the grandparents brought their kids. I'm runting a certain particular way. 0:49:52.480 --> 0:49:56.160 The grandkids learned how to find out where, and it's 0:49:56.200 --> 0:49:58.440 a mind said that this is the way to do it. 0:49:59.280 --> 0:50:02.480 I think the only like when when weighing all these 0:50:02.520 --> 0:50:06.200 things out, I have found and this is after this 0:50:06.239 --> 0:50:10.200 is what where I've arrived after spending um many many 0:50:10.280 --> 0:50:13.120 many days and hours like sort of like looking at 0:50:13.120 --> 0:50:20.120 these controversies, um, I feel that there's two things that 0:50:20.160 --> 0:50:23.120 there's like two sort of aspects of all the stuff 0:50:23.120 --> 0:50:25.520 they need to be considered. I put an enormous amount 0:50:25.560 --> 0:50:30.480 of weight on traditional youth practices, and I put a 0:50:30.480 --> 0:50:35.080 lot of weight on resource allocation, meaning if you could 0:50:35.080 --> 0:50:38.120 come and say that a certain activity like hound hunting 0:50:38.120 --> 0:50:43.319 for bears is as conducted is detrimental to black bear 0:50:43.440 --> 0:50:49.399 populations in the long term, Like you're on an unsustainable path. Uh, 0:50:49.480 --> 0:50:51.279 then that's a conversation that needs to be had. How 0:50:51.280 --> 0:50:53.080 are you gonna how are you gonna rectify that? So 0:50:53.080 --> 0:50:55.440 you have a traditional youth practice like hound hunting with bears, 0:50:55.640 --> 0:50:58.840 it's something that people have always done. So we're gonna 0:50:58.880 --> 0:51:02.040 honor that traditional use up to the point where someone 0:51:02.080 --> 0:51:07.200 can look and say, you're on a bad path from sustainability. 0:51:07.680 --> 0:51:11.360 And the way that's usually the way that's usually handled 0:51:11.520 --> 0:51:15.799 is through resource allocations, like what what what part of 0:51:15.800 --> 0:51:17.839 the pool of black bear tags are going to go 0:51:17.920 --> 0:51:22.800 to that user group? Um? With the emerging technologies that 0:51:22.880 --> 0:51:27.240 have a different attitude about it, because emerging technologies haven't 0:51:27.760 --> 0:51:31.319 haven't yet entered traditional use practice. So someone's gonna come 0:51:31.320 --> 0:51:34.440 and make the case that, like like using thermal night 0:51:34.520 --> 0:51:39.239 vision stuff, Um, what are the implications for game management? 0:51:39.440 --> 0:51:41.480 I think that that's a much more fair question to 0:51:41.520 --> 0:51:44.759 ask because it's an emerging technology without a culture built 0:51:44.800 --> 0:51:47.919 around it. It's not a traditional youth practice. Let's weigh 0:51:48.000 --> 0:51:51.760 it on its merits as it emerges, rather than going 0:51:51.840 --> 0:51:54.520 back and telling people that have been involved in some 0:51:54.560 --> 0:51:58.279 activity for three hundred years that we've now decided that 0:51:58.320 --> 0:52:01.960 what they've been doing for three years sustainably is no 0:52:02.040 --> 0:52:05.839 good anymore. I agreed. You know. Let me just say 0:52:05.920 --> 0:52:07.880 it's like one approach of many, but it's kind of 0:52:07.880 --> 0:52:09.440 how I tend to look at the stuff. I want 0:52:09.480 --> 0:52:13.960 to talk about this damn crayfish pond though, I want 0:52:14.000 --> 0:52:20.640 to talk about it too, because you said it was yours. Okay, 0:52:20.800 --> 0:52:25.160 layout like like uh layout for me? Um? How one 0:52:26.040 --> 0:52:28.799 like the process of making a personal crawfish pond. I'm 0:52:28.800 --> 0:52:31.440 gonna try to say crawfish out of difference bulldogs and 0:52:31.520 --> 0:52:36.520 an escavena and five days I was pumping water into it. 0:52:36.800 --> 0:52:40.080 So you dug that hole was a needy. What we 0:52:40.160 --> 0:52:42.680 did We brought in an asked cavena and dug a 0:52:42.760 --> 0:52:50.960 keys set about six ft down. What's that word? Um? 0:52:51.080 --> 0:52:55.120 We dug about six ft down a bucket wide to 0:52:55.320 --> 0:53:02.080 create to break the soil. Turn cut any avenues that 0:53:02.160 --> 0:53:05.839 the water could see through, because here we have a 0:53:05.840 --> 0:53:08.360 lot of the top of soil we have you have 0:53:08.560 --> 0:53:11.160 you're you're running into a lot of veins of water 0:53:12.280 --> 0:53:15.400 running just a few feet deep. So we gotta break that. 0:53:15.719 --> 0:53:18.239 We have to cut that. So we cut a key 0:53:18.280 --> 0:53:24.720 way six eight feet deep, bucket wide. The dimensions of 0:53:24.800 --> 0:53:30.120 the pond. You're gonna build the perimeter all in yards. 0:53:30.200 --> 0:53:32.640 Tell people what the dimensions of this crawfish pond. It's 0:53:32.680 --> 0:53:38.760 too weir because it's five five ft long, a hundred 0:53:39.120 --> 0:53:45.120 fifty foot wall. Um, so we build a key way. 0:53:45.320 --> 0:53:48.480 You're just digging and you and you swinging the bucket 0:53:48.520 --> 0:53:51.360 around and dumping it right back. You're dump in the 0:53:51.400 --> 0:53:54.359 dirt right back into the key way. You just want 0:53:54.360 --> 0:53:58.360 to break that if there's any channels that water is running, 0:53:58.760 --> 0:54:01.719 because you're gonna lose water. Then a bulldozer comes in 0:54:02.680 --> 0:54:07.640 removes about a foot of top soil where all the 0:54:07.760 --> 0:54:12.040 grass is growing. You gotta get that out of the way. 0:54:12.560 --> 0:54:15.360 Then you just keep pushing dirt to build your levees. 0:54:16.160 --> 0:54:20.680 You can't have any grass. That's why you remove that 0:54:20.760 --> 0:54:23.920 top soil. You can't put that grass in your level 0:54:24.200 --> 0:54:27.200 because then the grass the cares and it will form 0:54:27.320 --> 0:54:31.799 little channels that the water could start seeping through and 0:54:31.840 --> 0:54:33.799 it will lead the way you leve it. So you 0:54:33.840 --> 0:54:36.080 get rid of the grass and you start pushing dirt 0:54:36.600 --> 0:54:41.560 with the bulldozer. Bill you leave it and crank cup 0:54:41.600 --> 0:54:46.359 your pump and fill it. And uh, I built upon 0:54:46.520 --> 0:54:50.920 and five days I filled it. Uh, wait in a 0:54:51.040 --> 0:54:54.759 week and then I dumped the crawfish planting in it. 0:54:55.680 --> 0:54:57.959 One week after I filled it with water. But how'd 0:54:57.960 --> 0:55:00.239 you get the rice going in there? Ah? Have to 0:55:00.280 --> 0:55:03.560 wait the following spring. So you put crawfish in before 0:55:03.600 --> 0:55:06.359 you start even growing right there? Yes, because I had 0:55:06.400 --> 0:55:10.360 to get crawfish into the drill into the ground. That 0:55:10.560 --> 0:55:16.080 was my crop for the Uh what we do? How 0:55:16.120 --> 0:55:19.320 their life cycle works? And me, I drained my pond 0:55:19.360 --> 0:55:24.040 in me and I forced a force him. I pulled 0:55:24.040 --> 0:55:27.800 the plug in twelve hours, drained all the water of 0:55:27.880 --> 0:55:32.799 the pond. Well, the crawfish is instinct to survive is 0:55:32.840 --> 0:55:35.879 to drill into the ground. So when I when they 0:55:35.920 --> 0:55:42.240 feel that water dropping, they start drilling and they drill 0:55:42.360 --> 0:55:45.040 all on the inside the lever. They're drilling into the ground. 0:55:45.800 --> 0:55:48.440 And then I leaved upon dry all summer, cut the 0:55:48.520 --> 0:55:56.040 grass around mid September, planting the rice seed. So the pond. Yeah, 0:55:56.280 --> 0:56:01.239 I'm confused, now, why do you why do you need 0:56:01.280 --> 0:56:04.960 the crawfish to drill into the ground, Because they're going 0:56:05.040 --> 0:56:08.759 to the ground and they've they've been bread, they have 0:56:08.880 --> 0:56:12.920 eggsam them. They're going to the ground and they span 0:56:13.600 --> 0:56:17.440 two three months in the ground. Then when the females 0:56:17.520 --> 0:56:22.399 come out, they're carrying babies under their tail. And when 0:56:22.440 --> 0:56:26.280 I'll filled the pond, they start coming out the field. 0:56:26.840 --> 0:56:31.560 Let's let's build a timeline. So like Ronnie's he's raising 0:56:31.600 --> 0:56:33.719 his hand, go ahead running. So so what the whole 0:56:33.760 --> 0:56:35.719 point of the crawfish, point of the flooding and the 0:56:35.800 --> 0:56:40.920 draining is to is to assimilate the river. So naturally occurring, 0:56:40.960 --> 0:56:45.400 the river would flood in the spring and the crawfish 0:56:45.440 --> 0:56:47.839 would come out their holes, and then when the river 0:56:47.920 --> 0:56:50.879 would go back low again, the crawfish would would drill. 0:56:51.760 --> 0:56:55.040 So you got imitating their life cycle and sort of 0:56:55.120 --> 0:56:58.200 life history is to deal with this flood, the flooding 0:56:58.200 --> 0:57:02.200 and water, yeah, drying periods and and then we can 0:57:02.840 --> 0:57:08.120 we can artificially control. So you're mimicking the natural cycle 0:57:08.239 --> 0:57:12.279 of the flood. Soa what what month do you drain? 0:57:13.080 --> 0:57:15.960 I drained upon in May in May, so they breed 0:57:16.080 --> 0:57:19.200 prior to that. They're breeding all some I got crow 0:57:19.280 --> 0:57:22.680 fits that are drilling right now. And the reason they're drilling, 0:57:23.680 --> 0:57:26.560 it's because they came out of their holes two months ago, 0:57:27.240 --> 0:57:31.280 released their babies, their bread, and it's tom to go 0:57:31.360 --> 0:57:34.920 back in the ground to go through the life cycle 0:57:34.960 --> 0:57:39.840 of having there's their bread in the all right, so 0:57:40.200 --> 0:57:44.160 you drain in May. Yeah, they start to drill and 0:57:44.200 --> 0:57:48.320 their bread already, they're they're drilled before I drink the pond. 0:57:48.760 --> 0:57:51.040 All the pond is full of water, you'll see there. 0:57:51.480 --> 0:57:54.440 So they're drilling prior to May. Yeah, you start seeing 0:57:54.480 --> 0:57:58.920 chimneys all then you drained and it's all spring, and 0:57:59.320 --> 0:58:01.640 like when do you start to fill the pond again. 0:58:01.800 --> 0:58:07.840 September September, So all summer when they're just down in 0:58:07.880 --> 0:58:13.480 the mud. They're down in the ground. Yeah, okay, And 0:58:13.480 --> 0:58:16.640 then in that time period, that's when you plant your rice. Yeah, 0:58:16.680 --> 0:58:21.240 well it's dry. Plant while my punds dry. I plant 0:58:21.240 --> 0:58:24.840 my rice. When the rice gets about eight ten inches high, 0:58:25.000 --> 0:58:28.240 I'll start flooding. But you said they breed all summer long. 0:58:29.080 --> 0:58:35.680 So while I'm fishing, the crunfish breeding underground, underground, and 0:58:35.760 --> 0:58:39.720 the ponds got in the water in it. Yeah, during 0:58:39.760 --> 0:58:43.120 the summer and up up until they're not breeding. They're 0:58:43.120 --> 0:58:44.680 not breeding in the hole and the hole they're actually 0:58:44.680 --> 0:58:48.320 almost like hibernating. But how are they breeding all summer 0:58:48.560 --> 0:58:53.520 if there's no water. There's water up until me. So more, 0:58:53.520 --> 0:58:57.000 what do you call the summer march? I think, I think, 0:58:57.040 --> 0:58:59.360 but I just had had a tongue tied. You may 0:58:59.520 --> 0:59:02.800 say they breed when when there's water, and once you 0:59:02.880 --> 0:59:05.160 drain the pond, they're gonna hibernate and they're gonna just 0:59:05.200 --> 0:59:09.560 incubate those eggs and hibernate in the mud and the 0:59:10.280 --> 0:59:13.360 ground with the babies. Once they fail, once the water 0:59:13.400 --> 0:59:15.320 table comes back up, the crows say, oh it's time 0:59:15.360 --> 0:59:17.760 to get out. They come out, and then they release 0:59:17.800 --> 0:59:21.240 their eggs. So, yeah, they breed in the spring, and 0:59:21.240 --> 0:59:25.720 then once the water table drops, they drill incubate those babies, 0:59:26.080 --> 0:59:28.480 staying in their whole water comes back up, they come 0:59:28.480 --> 0:59:31.000 out and they spill there In the dry time, the 0:59:31.400 --> 0:59:36.600 rice gets gets planted. Yeah, September, it starts to grow 0:59:37.560 --> 0:59:40.600 right September. You float again when it gets somebody, it 0:59:40.680 --> 0:59:43.640 just high. I start flooding and I follow the rice 0:59:44.320 --> 0:59:47.720 and then and then they come out release their eggs 0:59:48.400 --> 0:59:54.520 correct and then that's when the life cycle. Then days 0:59:54.560 --> 0:59:57.040 from the time they come out and they release their 0:59:57.080 --> 1:00:03.640 babies Uh, biologists, they're figured about naughty days for baby 1:00:03.640 --> 1:00:07.440 crawfish to reach maturity to be able to harvest it. 1:00:07.640 --> 1:00:11.480 And then all winter long they're in there feeding on 1:00:11.520 --> 1:00:15.440 the rice. Well, the baby is actually feed on the 1:00:15.480 --> 1:00:19.920 microorganisms that grow the algae that grow on the rice stalks, 1:00:20.800 --> 1:00:23.280 and they will feed on that as long as possible. 1:00:24.120 --> 1:00:28.600 When that food sources depleted, then they'll start eating vegetation 1:00:29.080 --> 1:00:32.680 like rice and whatever the grass is growing in there. 1:00:34.120 --> 1:00:40.400 Vegetation is not a crawfish's main diet. They they'll feed 1:00:40.440 --> 1:00:45.040 on tiny organisms or whatever. If you pull one of 1:00:45.040 --> 1:00:48.960 those rice stalks out, you'll see it's, uh, it's all 1:00:49.000 --> 1:00:53.080 full of algae and that's what they're feeding on. This 1:00:53.280 --> 1:00:56.200 dominy here and being in the ponds are so shallow. 1:00:56.240 --> 1:00:59.440 If you, I mean you theoretically could keep it flooded longer, 1:00:59.800 --> 1:01:03.320 but the water just gets so hot you'll start killing, 1:01:03.320 --> 1:01:06.720 your started losing. But in a test one time we 1:01:06.800 --> 1:01:08.960 ran in my pond, we had what kept the water 1:01:09.040 --> 1:01:11.440 to what mid June? They June, And when Bud went 1:01:11.480 --> 1:01:14.000 to pull the plug, he said that one is hot. Yeah, 1:01:16.000 --> 1:01:18.200 listen at this timent of year. I don't I don't 1:01:18.240 --> 1:01:21.800 even I don't hardly have a run my pump. You 1:01:21.920 --> 1:01:26.160 gotta have a lot of oxygen. I'm tests oxygen levels. 1:01:27.120 --> 1:01:31.800 Um the water is cool, sweat holes oxygen in the 1:01:31.880 --> 1:01:34.880 spring when that water is gonna start warming up, I 1:01:34.920 --> 1:01:41.480 gotta pump every day to keep my oxygen levels about 1:01:41.480 --> 1:01:45.160 four or five. It's are you crawfits? You're gonna die? 1:01:45.640 --> 1:01:49.560 Are You'll see them crawling out trying to slip. You're 1:01:49.600 --> 1:01:51.840 go ahead night right off the dark and they'll be 1:01:51.920 --> 1:01:54.280 all along the one is the edge crawling out. That'll 1:01:54.280 --> 1:01:55.800 be bailing out to the to the to the water 1:01:55.840 --> 1:01:59.200 source that you pump into the pond. Ure's things are 1:01:59.200 --> 1:02:02.440 getting hard. There's a large drainage canal that runs in 1:02:02.480 --> 1:02:04.600 the back of our property. We call it the forty 1:02:04.640 --> 1:02:07.920 acre canal. And then uh, like bud in myself, we 1:02:07.920 --> 1:02:11.960 we on our properties. You dig a large ditch going 1:02:12.000 --> 1:02:13.960 all the way to the front, and then that's what 1:02:14.000 --> 1:02:17.640 you used to get your water into your pond. Okay, 1:02:17.640 --> 1:02:19.720 I got I got more questions, but too, I haven't 1:02:19.720 --> 1:02:23.360 to do do with this whole drain cycle deal. Do you 1:02:23.400 --> 1:02:26.960 have to drain it to plant rice? You can't plant, 1:02:27.160 --> 1:02:30.000 so you can't sell rice in a in in eighteen 1:02:30.040 --> 1:02:32.320 inches of water. No, but I have a friend across 1:02:32.360 --> 1:02:34.120 the bay. And then how's a pond. He told me. 1:02:34.160 --> 1:02:37.480 He throws his dry seed and three or four inches 1:02:37.680 --> 1:02:42.480 of water. It wouldn't work an eighteen inches of water. Okay, 1:02:42.600 --> 1:02:47.480 So there's that. And then let's say you never drained 1:02:47.520 --> 1:02:50.520 your pond, but you kept it at a stable eighteen 1:02:50.560 --> 1:02:55.640 inches year round, it go to hell, right, most likely 1:02:56.240 --> 1:02:59.280 like the crayfish production would go to hell. Yeah, we 1:02:59.440 --> 1:03:01.600 I used to. So the pond, one of the ponds 1:03:01.640 --> 1:03:03.320 I had was a hundred acre one and it was 1:03:03.320 --> 1:03:05.240 actually more of a swampy or style pond. It was 1:03:05.280 --> 1:03:08.480 pond that was not well taken care of. It was 1:03:08.520 --> 1:03:11.640 just left to be full and flooded. They did have 1:03:11.680 --> 1:03:13.600 crawfish in it, but it was Yeah, it was not 1:03:13.760 --> 1:03:18.440 nearly as productive as they say Bud's pond because the 1:03:18.840 --> 1:03:21.360 fish getting it to it and once to fit the 1:03:21.400 --> 1:03:29.840 small goggles and the batasas the perch, they the baby crawfish. 1:03:30.280 --> 1:03:33.320 And in that case also we the bullfrogs took in 1:03:33.600 --> 1:03:36.000 and the bullfrogs were eating out a crawfish. You could 1:03:36.040 --> 1:03:39.000 ask Bud in that pond that pond hadn't had no 1:03:39.080 --> 1:03:41.080 one had done any kind of anything to it in 1:03:41.120 --> 1:03:44.120 about five years when we took it over, and there 1:03:44.120 --> 1:03:47.040 were so many bullfrogs in there that we couldn't literally 1:03:47.040 --> 1:03:49.520 could not make crawfish. And when I say bullfrogs, I'm 1:03:49.560 --> 1:03:56.040 talking in plus no. The first time we decided to 1:03:56.040 --> 1:03:58.720 go frog in this pond, bud Bud got there first 1:03:58.800 --> 1:04:02.120 and he was texting me. He says, man, the frogs 1:04:02.160 --> 1:04:03.960 are so big at here, they're not gonna fit in 1:04:04.000 --> 1:04:10.640 the kiss of my truck. Seventy frogs. You couldn't catch them. 1:04:12.360 --> 1:04:15.760 You couldn't. You couldn't grab him. They couldn't wrap your 1:04:15.760 --> 1:04:17.400 hand around him to catch them. We don't have to 1:04:17.400 --> 1:04:20.360 whack them with a paddle. Yeah, you couldn't go and 1:04:20.400 --> 1:04:22.439 grab one of those frogs. And the cool thing about 1:04:22.480 --> 1:04:23.920 frogs though, when you hit him with a paddle and 1:04:24.000 --> 1:04:27.120 knock them out, they have a mechanism that they inflate 1:04:27.200 --> 1:04:33.120 their their lungs or something some kind of they roll 1:04:33.240 --> 1:04:35.400 over and they just floating there. Just grab throw them 1:04:35.440 --> 1:04:39.200 over your shoulder. Watch this my pawn. I flood and 1:04:39.280 --> 1:04:43.880 chep mbo And I dreamed in me that chart amount 1:04:43.880 --> 1:04:47.400 of time when I dreamed that pawd. You would not 1:04:47.640 --> 1:04:53.400 believe the stuff that's that's living and growing in there. 1:04:54.120 --> 1:05:03.320 Fish I'm talking about brim big enough to eat, blue gill, eels, garfish. 1:05:03.480 --> 1:05:06.200 And I don't plant any of that in there, just 1:05:06.280 --> 1:05:08.520 finds its way in there. Yeah, it's always it's always 1:05:08.520 --> 1:05:10.240 exhilarating when you pick up a trap and they've got 1:05:10.280 --> 1:05:11.960 a big cone in there, which is which is what 1:05:12.080 --> 1:05:13.440 it's like a It's like a eel, but it's got 1:05:13.480 --> 1:05:15.720 little legs. It's it's like actually, let's say a giant 1:05:15.720 --> 1:05:21.360 salaman there about like lasagni sides like a hellbender. You 1:05:21.400 --> 1:05:27.120 know what the hell bender is? I'm not sure. So 1:05:27.160 --> 1:05:30.240 how does that stuff get in there? I have no 1:05:30.320 --> 1:05:33.800 idea that every year when I dreamed that pond, you 1:05:33.840 --> 1:05:36.560 would not be to leave what's in there? The fish 1:05:36.600 --> 1:05:39.640 I think coming through the pumps, like the bram and 1:05:39.720 --> 1:05:43.440 bull frogs. We catch them in the trap. Well you 1:05:43.520 --> 1:05:47.040 pick up the trips in there. Um, oh, go ahead, 1:05:47.040 --> 1:05:48.880 because you got I want you to explain the harvest 1:05:48.920 --> 1:05:51.280 process now, because you're talking about the trap. So it's 1:05:51.280 --> 1:05:56.880 a good segue into the harvest process. Well, we real sample, 1:05:56.920 --> 1:05:59.920 we harvest them and need him. No, but talking you 1:06:00.240 --> 1:06:02.560 just used you trap them out of the pond. Yeah, 1:06:02.600 --> 1:06:06.040 I got pyramid traps that we use. We use uh, 1:06:06.960 --> 1:06:13.480 artificial bait palets fabaite, because we we're not big on that. 1:06:13.760 --> 1:06:18.360 A lot of a lot of crawfish fishermen use fish 1:06:18.640 --> 1:06:22.440 um and hayden or pole is fabit. One of the 1:06:22.480 --> 1:06:26.800 reasons I built my pond. My wife wouldn't need crawfish 1:06:26.880 --> 1:06:30.840 that and you can smell it. You can tell crawfish 1:06:30.960 --> 1:06:35.440 that's there's been. Fish use fabait, and we didn't like that. 1:06:35.680 --> 1:06:39.480 So one of the reasons I built my pond. We 1:06:39.640 --> 1:06:47.560 use a pallet form fabaite. Crawfish are clean, Uh, your 1:06:47.600 --> 1:06:52.160 crawfish are bass. We enjoy more about that first month 1:06:52.960 --> 1:06:56.720 the meat this has a sweetness to it. Later on 1:06:57.120 --> 1:07:04.280 when the water starts warming up, the flesh changes, Uh, 1:07:04.600 --> 1:07:09.000 it even tastes different. It the texture and as your 1:07:09.000 --> 1:07:12.560 crawfish get older. When the crowfish are really young, that's 1:07:12.560 --> 1:07:16.880 when they're the best. So a run the traps every 1:07:16.880 --> 1:07:21.360 every day, and my wife and I eat what we 1:07:21.440 --> 1:07:24.200 can and we give the rest away. That so you 1:07:24.280 --> 1:07:26.440 give them away all bagged up. You don't make your 1:07:26.480 --> 1:07:29.080 neighbors and friends come and pull their own traps, A 1:07:29.160 --> 1:07:31.640 lot of them, A lot some of them, like Ronni 1:07:33.240 --> 1:07:36.880 likes to bring his son. So I'll tell Ronni, yeah, 1:07:36.960 --> 1:07:41.960 y'all come, it's more of a stiff having an outing 1:07:42.040 --> 1:07:45.560 with friends. You know, jump in the board, let's go 1:07:45.680 --> 1:07:48.840 and we go run the traps, and whatever crowfish we 1:07:48.920 --> 1:07:52.000 pick up, I give it to them. It's like the 1:07:52.160 --> 1:07:55.080 kids to bring kids. Man, you wouldn't believe. I mean 1:07:55.120 --> 1:07:59.480 the kids, I'm having that pond and they I mean, 1:07:59.560 --> 1:08:02.800 you made their mutt, you know, you bringing two or 1:08:02.840 --> 1:08:06.920 three up four or five year olds in there, and 1:08:06.960 --> 1:08:10.240 it's all new to them. And I mean to see 1:08:10.240 --> 1:08:13.240 the small on their faces. And there are is a 1:08:13.320 --> 1:08:18.559 little up watching picking up all the crawfish. That's my thing. 1:08:18.880 --> 1:08:22.200 I mean, I love doing that. So can I play 1:08:22.200 --> 1:08:25.000 a little just a little bit of antagonists and kind 1:08:25.000 --> 1:08:29.120 of in this conversation? No, can I come on? You 1:08:29.120 --> 1:08:31.800 can say something bad having a crawfish pond. So what 1:08:31.840 --> 1:08:35.040 Bud does in this small in this small town community, 1:08:35.040 --> 1:08:37.880 and this is what we're at. This is a community 1:08:37.920 --> 1:08:41.200 gathering place that allows people to get this wonderful resource 1:08:41.240 --> 1:08:45.040 of Louisiana. And I love that about this pond. But 1:08:45.120 --> 1:08:47.519 what I want to actually ask Bud about in the 1:08:47.560 --> 1:08:51.360 crew here is about commercial rice field fishermen out west 1:08:51.960 --> 1:08:55.160 who have hundreds and thousands of acres of crawfish ponds, right, 1:08:55.240 --> 1:08:57.599 you know that for a fact, and they make they 1:08:57.600 --> 1:09:00.519 make a make a great living. In fact, Ronnie said 1:09:00.920 --> 1:09:03.280 the other day, is that maybe the main source of 1:09:03.320 --> 1:09:05.800 their income is off that commercial fishing and rice just 1:09:05.880 --> 1:09:09.840 pays the bills. Right. Then you take the old school 1:09:09.920 --> 1:09:12.960 fishermen and the chaff flai basin and the spillways that 1:09:13.040 --> 1:09:16.880 are that are fishing for crawfish wild chaff flay basin 1:09:17.560 --> 1:09:22.240 crawfish that yeah, that go through the natural life cycle 1:09:22.439 --> 1:09:25.519 of the swamp and its feet and has no pumps 1:09:25.560 --> 1:09:28.680 going in and out of it. They're using bait and 1:09:28.720 --> 1:09:32.519 they're big ripe. Is that the rice field farm and 1:09:32.520 --> 1:09:36.840 crawf is just killing there, killing their business because the 1:09:36.880 --> 1:09:39.759 majority of people buy from the rice fields now because 1:09:39.760 --> 1:09:44.400 of what a lot of what budg just said taste different, 1:09:44.439 --> 1:09:47.160 the cleanliness from the thing. Now, a lot of people 1:09:47.200 --> 1:09:52.320 will say, what's the difference between farm and duck and 1:09:52.400 --> 1:09:56.599 wild duck. You get a different, cleaner, more mild, mellow 1:09:56.640 --> 1:09:59.640 taste out of farm raised u than wild duck. And 1:09:59.680 --> 1:10:01.600 then in the same sense stuff, so like, what do 1:10:01.720 --> 1:10:07.519 you make its own grave? He don't. Did you go 1:10:07.640 --> 1:10:11.200 walking in my pond? Yeah, it's hard, like it's hard 1:10:11.320 --> 1:10:14.200 the floor. So I guess, I guess. My whole thing 1:10:14.320 --> 1:10:17.439 is is that his his pond is a different beast 1:10:17.560 --> 1:10:20.040 because it's it's something that he does a hobby. It's 1:10:20.080 --> 1:10:22.400 not a commercial thing, doesn't make money. It's a confusion. Yeah, 1:10:22.400 --> 1:10:26.880 it's a difference between a garden yea and an industrialized 1:10:27.040 --> 1:10:30.120 farm landscape. And I'm not condemning that. I'm saying there's 1:10:30.120 --> 1:10:34.000 a big difference between a garden and an industrialized So 1:10:34.280 --> 1:10:38.400 you talk to these um basin crawfis the spillway crawfishermen 1:10:38.439 --> 1:10:42.200 who are wild by the wild crawfish guy, Yeah, you're 1:10:42.200 --> 1:10:45.400 good and wild crawfish guys, and they're saying, what about us, 1:10:45.720 --> 1:10:48.320 because these guys out west have thousands of acres of 1:10:48.360 --> 1:10:51.360 controlled farmland that they're pumping water in an out planting 1:10:51.439 --> 1:10:55.680 natural seed and then n of Louisianans and all over 1:10:55.720 --> 1:10:58.240 the country. Now where you can get you can get 1:10:58.320 --> 1:11:01.400 crawfish express shipped to you and then to day or 1:11:01.400 --> 1:11:05.240 a cross or rice field crawfish and the spillway guys 1:11:05.240 --> 1:11:08.280 are like, oh shit, our commercial fisheries are going down 1:11:08.280 --> 1:11:11.040 the drain because no, we can't harvest near as much 1:11:11.120 --> 1:11:13.040 as the is the rice fields. Yeah, you know what 1:11:13.320 --> 1:11:17.240 it's all about this because you made you made the 1:11:17.280 --> 1:11:21.960 little money symbol where the rice fields start producing. Because 1:11:22.200 --> 1:11:26.599 it's it's it's like it's gonna search for about a month. 1:11:27.960 --> 1:11:31.479 The price started dropping, and the price drops right now 1:11:31.920 --> 1:11:34.719 every year. The crawfish started at about six dollars a pound. 1:11:35.280 --> 1:11:40.240 Here gonna break up in the spring. This is gonna 1:11:40.320 --> 1:11:43.920 drop to the dollar when the rice fields are gonna 1:11:43.920 --> 1:11:47.280 start putting it all. But they're putting out so much 1:11:47.560 --> 1:11:50.840 volume that they can sell it from the dollars they're 1:11:50.880 --> 1:11:57.320 still bringing in. And I think the chuff goes, the 1:11:57.400 --> 1:12:01.719 Chuffali goes killing themselves working trying to catch the wild 1:12:01.760 --> 1:12:07.200 ones and get and a lot of people. And you're 1:12:07.200 --> 1:12:10.240 gonna hear people say, no doubt is that there's a 1:12:10.320 --> 1:12:15.320 difference in flavor size consistency between and they're they're trains 1:12:15.320 --> 1:12:18.920 of thoughts. I say, wild crawfish now to buds point 1:12:19.320 --> 1:12:23.280 using that pellet, you're not using decaying fish matter and pokey. 1:12:23.600 --> 1:12:27.680 That's gonna change the dynamic of what that crawfish tastes like. 1:12:27.800 --> 1:12:32.879 But I wouldn't say it. It's like buying. Buying spillway 1:12:32.920 --> 1:12:35.519 crawfish is a bad thing, and they're gonna taste bad. 1:12:35.640 --> 1:12:37.439 You just have to do a little bit more work 1:12:37.520 --> 1:12:40.040 to purge them, to clean them, to make sure they're 1:12:40.120 --> 1:12:42.360 nice and rents so that they do taste good. Because 1:12:42.400 --> 1:12:46.599 there is something about that wildness personally that does make 1:12:46.680 --> 1:12:50.120 that crawfish its own thing. I'm not gonna say more 1:12:50.160 --> 1:12:55.439 special less, it's a different They have a different flavor. 1:12:56.200 --> 1:13:01.759 Uniqueness personally come from I love fish from the chal 1:13:01.960 --> 1:13:05.960 It tastes different the crawfish in my pond. I personally 1:13:05.960 --> 1:13:08.680 love spillway crawfish like I like. I like the change up, 1:13:08.720 --> 1:13:10.120 you know, because a lot of times you're gonna get 1:13:10.120 --> 1:13:12.720 your your rice pond crawfish first because you know the 1:13:12.800 --> 1:13:15.519 river hasn't done this thing yet. The spillway crawfish aren't 1:13:15.600 --> 1:13:17.960 aren't out there because your rice crawfish pond is gonna 1:13:17.960 --> 1:13:20.000 come out first. That's just six dollar pound crawfish that 1:13:20.080 --> 1:13:22.160 you're getting right now in the wintertime. You're not gonna 1:13:22.160 --> 1:13:24.880 get spillway crawfish in the wintertime. And I find that 1:13:24.920 --> 1:13:27.960 when the spillway kicks up, the spillway it's where the 1:13:27.960 --> 1:13:32.120 Mississippi comes or the chap when when when the river 1:13:32.200 --> 1:13:40.640 comes up, there's some overflows over and far from it. Yeah, 1:13:40.640 --> 1:13:46.960 it floods the swamps swamp crawfish. Yeah. So when the 1:13:46.960 --> 1:13:50.120 spillway crawfish spillway, I think of the uh in the 1:13:50.120 --> 1:13:54.240 middle of a beaver dam. They make a spillway, you know, 1:13:54.360 --> 1:13:56.360 they believe they don't make it, They leave it there, 1:13:56.400 --> 1:14:00.679 they unbuilt on. So h So I find like, actually 1:14:00.720 --> 1:14:03.320 when the spillway crawfish kick in, that's actually actually does 1:14:03.360 --> 1:14:05.719 bring the price down, which which it kind of sucks 1:14:05.720 --> 1:14:07.519 for the spillway guys because yeah, they don't get that 1:14:07.760 --> 1:14:10.120 six dollar pound crawfish to sell. They are selling at 1:14:10.960 --> 1:14:12.960 three dollars a pound when they when when the spillway 1:14:13.040 --> 1:14:15.519 comes in, that price is gonna dropped about three dollars 1:14:15.560 --> 1:14:19.120 because then the original dudes are kicking in there. They're 1:14:19.400 --> 1:14:24.160 so much crawfish coming on farms, the rice farmers crawfish, 1:14:24.200 --> 1:14:26.920 and just it's more and more and the warmer it gets, 1:14:26.960 --> 1:14:30.719 the more they catch. People search out spillway crawfish because 1:14:30.760 --> 1:14:33.479 they know they can always get rice field crawfish. They 1:14:33.520 --> 1:14:38.920 search out the spillway like the spillway crawfish. Here buzz 1:14:39.000 --> 1:14:43.479 kill man. Listen if jump Paul, if he buzz killed 1:14:43.479 --> 1:14:46.680 me yesterday and he buzz killed me with the same thing. 1:14:46.840 --> 1:14:50.360 I'm just trying to drop a list, like you know, 1:14:50.439 --> 1:14:52.880 it's great knowledge. My favorite thing on the plane right 1:14:52.880 --> 1:14:57.280 now is boot in. Ronnie turns me on to like 1:14:57.680 --> 1:15:00.559 gas station boot in where he going to the gas 1:15:00.600 --> 1:15:03.200 station and get boot and wrapped up boot and is 1:15:03.200 --> 1:15:09.120 like a rice. Here we go. This is all information. 1:15:09.920 --> 1:15:14.479 This is all next level cultural information people need. Give 1:15:14.520 --> 1:15:19.720 me an unbiased what boot and is boodas rice sausage 1:15:20.040 --> 1:15:25.320 traditionally made with pork rice and pork livers. Period, Ronnie. 1:15:26.160 --> 1:15:28.599 These guys are always walking around in the morning. When 1:15:28.600 --> 1:15:30.719 I met Ronnie last summer, we're down here spear fishing, 1:15:30.800 --> 1:15:32.760 and everyone's walking around in the morning where you might 1:15:32.760 --> 1:15:36.200 be eating the breakfast burrito or or a bacon sausage 1:15:36.200 --> 1:15:40.599 and egg thing you staid you walk around the sausage 1:15:41.280 --> 1:15:47.160 tinfoil like a of soft sausage wrapped in tinfoil made 1:15:47.160 --> 1:15:49.120 out of like meat and rice, and that's what you 1:15:49.120 --> 1:15:52.920 eat in the morning. Did you put some hot sauce 1:15:52.960 --> 1:15:54.400 on it? And I'm gonna rig up a thing when 1:15:54.439 --> 1:15:56.439 I moved down here and start my restaurant called I'm 1:15:56.439 --> 1:16:01.080 gonna start a restaurant called the Real Cajun, and I'm 1:16:01.080 --> 1:16:04.200 gonna have a thing that sits. I was explaining this yesterday. 1:16:04.360 --> 1:16:06.759 It's gonna be a reservoir of hot sauce that bolts 1:16:06.760 --> 1:16:10.360 to the top of the truck with a drip line 1:16:10.360 --> 1:16:13.439 that comes down and it hangs right by your steering wheel, 1:16:13.960 --> 1:16:16.000 and it's got a little squeeze bowlb on it, like 1:16:16.040 --> 1:16:18.000 the thing you use the prime gas in your boat. 1:16:19.000 --> 1:16:21.880 And as you're eating your boot and driving around, you 1:16:21.920 --> 1:16:26.360 can just because you only need each drop. You only 1:16:26.360 --> 1:16:29.599 get a bite because it's so you gotta, like, see, 1:16:29.640 --> 1:16:31.639 you can't season the whole damn thing. You gotta season 1:16:31.720 --> 1:16:35.120 each bite. So with that hose coming down full of 1:16:35.120 --> 1:16:41.439 hot sauce, take a bite with that reservoir and then 1:16:41.479 --> 1:16:45.679 you just set for life a syringe with the long 1:16:45.720 --> 1:16:48.080 needle and you jam it in long ways, oh, and 1:16:48.120 --> 1:16:50.639 fill it up and squeeze it. As you're pulling out 1:16:52.400 --> 1:16:57.360 everybody from right now. Then they tried everybody from what 1:16:57.479 --> 1:17:00.000 the hell are these guys doing putting hot sauce on boot? 1:17:01.280 --> 1:17:08.360 If you don't do it, they had some good that 1:17:08.520 --> 1:17:11.839 that's where the story gets good. So Ronnie last Summer 1:17:11.880 --> 1:17:13.800 turns me out and he's like, go, what's that town? 1:17:14.280 --> 1:17:16.719 Golden Meadow? Go to Golden Meadow, Go to tea Pops. 1:17:17.439 --> 1:17:19.760 When you walk in Teapops, they sell like basically three 1:17:19.800 --> 1:17:27.240 things gas, red Bull, and so we're going there and 1:17:27.240 --> 1:17:30.439 they got two kinds. They got pork crawfish. Now we 1:17:30.560 --> 1:17:34.600 see me and Seth patronized the last summer, ate the 1:17:34.960 --> 1:17:37.439 dickens out of it, and this trip all I've been tom, 1:17:37.520 --> 1:17:39.200 I was wanting to go back to that damn place 1:17:39.520 --> 1:17:41.760 and get more of the Boodhan. So we're going to 1:17:41.760 --> 1:17:44.920 get the boot, and we got there ahead of Gan Paul. 1:17:45.240 --> 1:17:47.840 We go in, get some eat that, go back in 1:17:47.920 --> 1:17:50.960 to get more. Some guy comes to get another bottle 1:17:51.000 --> 1:17:53.400 of hot sauce. Some guy comes in waware in her 1:17:53.479 --> 1:17:56.520 second run and walks in there and goes, y'all seriously 1:17:56.560 --> 1:18:00.679 out of red Bull right now. That's want to talk 1:18:00.760 --> 1:18:02.599 to you. A couple of days are going to your 1:18:02.640 --> 1:18:06.280 torment we had teep offs right now, that's where y'all are. 1:18:07.080 --> 1:18:12.720 So then so yesterday we go in buy it. We 1:18:12.800 --> 1:18:15.960 buy the boot, and Lauren had a bottle of hot 1:18:15.960 --> 1:18:19.040 sauce with him. Ate that one. I don't know what 1:18:19.080 --> 1:18:22.639 happened to his bottle of hot sauce. Chester went back 1:18:22.680 --> 1:18:25.160 in to get more and to get a new bottle 1:18:25.200 --> 1:18:29.280 of hot sauce. Jean Paul pulls up. He goes in 1:18:29.840 --> 1:18:32.080 and he's like going in there and he's shooting the 1:18:32.080 --> 1:18:34.280 ship with the people in there. And he comes out 1:18:34.400 --> 1:18:37.200 and says, I don't mean to be the antagonist like 1:18:37.240 --> 1:18:39.599 we just heard him say a second ago. And he said, 1:18:40.439 --> 1:18:47.360 that's not boot. Is in my turn to comment here 1:18:48.840 --> 1:18:52.000 to take it away. You can defend yourself. I don't know. 1:18:52.520 --> 1:18:54.599 I don't need to defend myself. I'm eating Buddha all 1:18:54.600 --> 1:18:56.519 over this state. I make it a point to go 1:18:56.600 --> 1:19:00.720 to eat bud and real quick. He pointed out that 1:19:00.920 --> 1:19:04.080 he said, and I bought two of them too, and 1:19:04.120 --> 1:19:07.320 I ate two of them too, and I it is 1:19:07.520 --> 1:19:11.720 delicious that boot and Quota air quotes is delicious. But 1:19:11.880 --> 1:19:14.760 even the people working there would say, it's more like 1:19:14.840 --> 1:19:17.120 they actually told me this The people there when you 1:19:17.200 --> 1:19:19.240 derogated them. I was at because I want to know 1:19:19.240 --> 1:19:21.439 where it was from, which is from Texas, which explains 1:19:21.479 --> 1:19:26.280 a lot. Yeah, it's from Texas. And they said it's 1:19:26.320 --> 1:19:29.200 more like a rice dressing than a traditional boudant, and 1:19:29.240 --> 1:19:33.720 I said, oh, it's all putting. Now. It is a 1:19:33.760 --> 1:19:38.200 delicious link of sausage, because that's what it is. I 1:19:38.240 --> 1:19:40.200 mean boot as a sausage if you put the hot 1:19:40.200 --> 1:19:44.599 sauce on there, especially so I have never ever seen 1:19:45.080 --> 1:19:47.479 anybody put hot sauce on Buda. So a bunch of 1:19:47.560 --> 1:19:50.840 Yankees sending a rent old suburban with a bottle of 1:19:50.840 --> 1:19:59.360 hot the real Cajun over here with his reservoir idea, 1:20:00.000 --> 1:20:03.559 and I will promise you that the any Louisiana and 1:20:03.600 --> 1:20:07.040 that's listened to this podcast right now saying them some 1:20:07.160 --> 1:20:11.679 bitches there's never been out west, um and out south 1:20:11.800 --> 1:20:16.920 west southwest Louisiana, and um, you know, there's all kinds 1:20:16.920 --> 1:20:19.960 of different side. So I like, look, I like tpops 1:20:19.960 --> 1:20:21.880 Buddha and I'll call the Buddha because that's what they 1:20:21.920 --> 1:20:25.040 call it. And I'm just I'm just personally saying for 1:20:25.400 --> 1:20:28.479 the fact, literally a thousands of different brands and types 1:20:28.520 --> 1:20:31.320 of Buddha and that I've eaten that is the most 1:20:31.400 --> 1:20:35.160 unlike a Buddha that I've ever had. It is because 1:20:35.200 --> 1:20:37.519 it doesn't when I go home and say, when I 1:20:37.560 --> 1:20:41.160 go home and tell people that I've developed a real 1:20:41.240 --> 1:20:45.519 love for rice dressing done, that doesn't sound like anything, 1:20:46.640 --> 1:20:50.559 doesn't really pop off that I'm not like a real 1:20:50.560 --> 1:20:55.240 boot and man and you are. That's not stopping you 1:20:55.280 --> 1:20:57.400 say so if it doesn't have livers, not Buddha. But 1:20:57.439 --> 1:20:59.639 what about crawfish Buddha? Is it that not Buddha? Either? 1:21:00.200 --> 1:21:04.639 I don't like crawford bud or I don't like any 1:21:04.720 --> 1:21:06.640 of that. I mean, I like it, but it's like, 1:21:06.760 --> 1:21:09.320 but is it not Buddha? Now at some point is not? Okay? 1:21:09.400 --> 1:21:12.479 Let me ask you. They make they make cauliflower bud. 1:21:12.840 --> 1:21:18.240 They replace the rice with cauliflowers that bud. No, why 1:21:18.360 --> 1:21:20.800 isn't that bood? I guess I call it because he 1:21:20.880 --> 1:21:23.240 doesn't have rice in it? All look like a vegan. 1:21:23.960 --> 1:21:28.240 Well they still they still put pork in it. They're 1:21:28.280 --> 1:21:33.760 doing it because they don't want It's not a vegetarian thing. 1:21:33.800 --> 1:21:35.840 It's a keto thing, now you know what I mean 1:21:36.520 --> 1:21:42.280 couliflower in there, cauliflower rice. So I think, so there's 1:21:43.200 --> 1:21:47.400 I'm gonna go back home. This is your boot here, 1:21:47.760 --> 1:21:49.960 this is y'allays, this is yallas bud And I'm sure 1:21:49.960 --> 1:21:51.479 you could win across the street and it maybe have 1:21:51.520 --> 1:21:54.479 been the more traditional liver Buddha. But I mean to me, 1:21:54.960 --> 1:21:59.919 in my in my opinion of Buddha is so me, sausage, sausages, 1:22:00.080 --> 1:22:06.040 just no no cauliflower, no, no rice, just meet in 1:22:06.800 --> 1:22:12.160 intestine like encasing, yeah, boot and then and then to me, 1:22:12.280 --> 1:22:16.719 budd is just meet and rice. If there's rice in encasing, 1:22:17.080 --> 1:22:23.479 that's boodh. In my open rice is what makes rice 1:22:23.800 --> 1:22:26.400 rice are If you want to use cauliflower, it makes 1:22:26.439 --> 1:22:28.600 the boodant. To me, what makes it boot and too me, 1:22:29.160 --> 1:22:31.040 I appreciate that. I'm ready to move on. I know 1:22:31.680 --> 1:22:33.720 I can go to Tea Pops and get that their 1:22:33.800 --> 1:22:37.800 boodan and sleep easy calling it boodan. I'm gonna have 1:22:37.920 --> 1:22:40.000 a very hard time going home and saying that I 1:22:40.080 --> 1:22:44.200 was eating. But this, this is what I'm gonna do. 1:22:44.960 --> 1:22:50.439 Three being deceived. Yeah, all three of y'all, y'all gonna 1:22:50.479 --> 1:22:56.120 send me and I'm gonna send you three different boodants 1:22:56.120 --> 1:22:59.160 from three different places in three different distinct sections of 1:22:59.200 --> 1:23:01.760 southwest Louisian Anna, and I don't want to hear if 1:23:01.800 --> 1:23:04.000 it's better or worse. I just want you to try it. 1:23:04.040 --> 1:23:06.320 You don't have to give me feedback. I like teapops better, 1:23:06.400 --> 1:23:08.400 I like this better. I don't care about that. What 1:23:08.520 --> 1:23:11.000 you like is what you like. I don't give it. 1:23:11.320 --> 1:23:15.120 I don't even damn you know like. But I'm just saying, listen, man, 1:23:15.200 --> 1:23:19.639 I'm interested. I'm only I'm hacking on. But I'm Steve 1:23:20.960 --> 1:23:24.680 very interested in knowing. I'm very interested in all this. 1:23:25.400 --> 1:23:31.640 But from an outsider perspective. Okay, you go down to 1:23:31.760 --> 1:23:33.680 you know, this whole thing like you because you're you're 1:23:33.720 --> 1:23:36.880 you're pretty familiar with like all the cuisines in the country, right, 1:23:37.000 --> 1:23:40.240 I am. They do all the same garbage about chili 1:23:40.360 --> 1:23:45.000 in the southwest now southwest southwestern US. This whole like 1:23:46.000 --> 1:23:49.040 outrage if it's got this in it, outrage if it's 1:23:49.080 --> 1:23:52.560 got that in it. Right, So, when you live in 1:23:52.640 --> 1:23:57.679 an area, you get you get like invested in that stuff, 1:23:58.880 --> 1:24:02.439 but you're not. It seems a little it starts to 1:24:02.479 --> 1:24:05.960 feel a little academic like I would be like my 1:24:06.040 --> 1:24:07.920 mom used to make chili and she put kiddy beans 1:24:07.960 --> 1:24:10.040 in it. And then some guy wherever the hell what 1:24:10.160 --> 1:24:11.760 part of the country do you then go like, if 1:24:11.840 --> 1:24:14.880 it's got beans in it, it's not Well, you just 1:24:14.960 --> 1:24:17.200 said it about hunting. It's where you grow up. And 1:24:17.520 --> 1:24:19.880 some people think because where you grew up, you think 1:24:20.000 --> 1:24:23.200 this is the right way, right. But as you grow 1:24:23.280 --> 1:24:27.560 out and expand your world of hunting or Buddha or 1:24:27.720 --> 1:24:31.080 of any other thing, it becomes to evolve and say, 1:24:31.120 --> 1:24:34.320 oh wait, my way is not only the right way. 1:24:34.800 --> 1:24:37.599 There's other right ways and nobody is right or wrong. 1:24:37.680 --> 1:24:43.960 In this conversation was brought over to Venice with us 1:24:44.560 --> 1:24:50.080 rabbit os. That was great. See what in my favorite? 1:24:50.720 --> 1:24:55.000 I think there's better boots, but it's not my favorite. 1:24:55.000 --> 1:24:56.599 I want to move on from boot as I want 1:24:56.600 --> 1:24:58.479 to get into cooking the crawfish, because we left the 1:24:58.479 --> 1:25:00.559 cooking and I want you to tackle cooking John Paul, 1:25:00.640 --> 1:25:06.920 But just just out of fairness, I'm endorsing tea Pops. 1:25:08.040 --> 1:25:10.680 What would you like to endorse if you if if 1:25:10.760 --> 1:25:13.920 you want, let's say, let's say a listener out there 1:25:14.080 --> 1:25:17.639 wants to experience sort of like what you would regard 1:25:17.760 --> 1:25:24.320 as sort of like the baseline definition of boodan, you 1:25:24.400 --> 1:25:28.280 would suggest that they buy some from who. If you 1:25:28.400 --> 1:25:33.440 are traveling I TN West and you're going through uh Scott, Louisiana, 1:25:34.120 --> 1:25:37.320 are anywhere in those parishes out west on I TN 1:25:37.680 --> 1:25:44.360 stop at Billy's are stopped at? No buddy knew what 1:25:44.520 --> 1:25:48.640 he was going to stand. Best Stop is great, but 1:25:48.720 --> 1:25:55.200 there are literally on a cooking program on TV. Best 1:25:56.760 --> 1:26:00.599 there's literally hundreds of places. I tend you get west 1:26:00.640 --> 1:26:03.120 of laughing that way you can pick up bootan and 1:26:03.400 --> 1:26:06.960 every gas station and every little meat shop, and so 1:26:07.439 --> 1:26:10.040 Billie's is one of my favorites. Best Stop is different, 1:26:10.120 --> 1:26:12.559 but also good Dons is good, Rabbit is good, New 1:26:12.600 --> 1:26:15.479 news is good, long as is good g and M 1:26:15.560 --> 1:26:18.960 meat market. It goes on and on and on um. 1:26:19.080 --> 1:26:21.960 But I would say this, I love your Teapops endorsement. 1:26:22.000 --> 1:26:23.680 I'll tell you why, because if you were coming to 1:26:23.760 --> 1:26:26.360 southeast Louisiana and you're traveling down by La Fush and 1:26:26.360 --> 1:26:28.840 you're going fishing and poor fouch on a grand ol 1:26:29.439 --> 1:26:33.360 stop at Teapops at that shell station, stress get you 1:26:33.439 --> 1:26:38.000 some boot like, because this is bootan here. I wish 1:26:38.040 --> 1:26:39.479 I was knowing on a tea with that right now, 1:26:40.000 --> 1:26:44.479 it sounds so good, sounds good, so good. Right in 1:26:44.560 --> 1:26:47.840 the bottom right they got a chest like a thing 1:26:48.120 --> 1:26:53.120 door opens from the outside. You serve yourself. Bottom right corner, Yep, 1:26:53.560 --> 1:26:57.439 the top stupid stuff. Bottom left is bottom left is 1:26:57.479 --> 1:27:00.599 crayfish boot and which is good? Bot him writes sport 1:27:00.600 --> 1:27:04.720 bood You tried the crayfish one? Yeah, that's that one's main, 1:27:04.840 --> 1:27:08.280 Homer asked, crosses boodans main Homa the port Boudins madeen 1:27:08.280 --> 1:27:22.200 in Texas. Layout for me? Now, how to do a 1:27:22.240 --> 1:27:25.200 crawfish boil? As we ate last night? That's the one 1:27:25.240 --> 1:27:27.120 I'm interested in because that was the best I've ever had. 1:27:28.200 --> 1:27:30.360 And I'm not saying there's not eighty ways of doing it, 1:27:30.400 --> 1:27:32.559 but I'm talking about, like last night, you did one. Yeah, 1:27:32.720 --> 1:27:34.720 So I took a little bit of how I grew 1:27:34.800 --> 1:27:36.960 up doing it and a little bit how how Bud 1:27:37.320 --> 1:27:39.920 how Bud, and I spent fifteen minutes talking about doing 1:27:39.960 --> 1:27:42.439 it outside the craw fish ponds yesterday. And so what 1:27:42.600 --> 1:27:46.920 I did is I basically filled up my pot with 1:27:47.000 --> 1:27:52.679 water and made a vegetable stock with a lot of onions, salary, garlic, 1:27:53.080 --> 1:27:56.719 mushrooms and a lot of citrus and oranges, like twenty 1:27:56.800 --> 1:27:59.559 four lemons cut in half, and like ten oranges cutting 1:27:59.600 --> 1:28:00.920 half school ease in my hand and put them in 1:28:00.920 --> 1:28:04.320 the thing. Rolled that to a boil, and um, I 1:28:04.400 --> 1:28:07.160 added just a little bit of seasoning dry seasoning in 1:28:07.280 --> 1:28:10.400 the in the water and some liquid. Craball brand. What's 1:28:10.400 --> 1:28:13.479 your what's your preferred brand? Man, there's a there's a 1:28:13.680 --> 1:28:16.799 couple of different ones that are really good. Um Loco 1:28:17.000 --> 1:28:20.960 makes a good um crab boil Chack bass season it 1:28:21.040 --> 1:28:23.320 makes a good crab ball. Slappy Mom makes a good one. 1:28:23.439 --> 1:28:25.439 Zataran's is what I grew up with and is what 1:28:25.560 --> 1:28:29.000 we used last night, because that's what we had. And Um, 1:28:29.160 --> 1:28:31.240 I used a little bit of the powder, a little 1:28:31.280 --> 1:28:34.000 bit of the liquid, and I started rolling that to 1:28:34.080 --> 1:28:36.519 a boil, adding my potatoes and sausage. And I like 1:28:36.600 --> 1:28:39.040 to get my potatoes about three quarters the way there 1:28:39.320 --> 1:28:41.920 before I add my crawfish. And what was that sat there? 1:28:42.160 --> 1:28:46.600 That was smoked richards smoke sausage, and um, then my 1:28:46.680 --> 1:28:50.080 crawfish go in. Now like these are early in the season. 1:28:50.120 --> 1:28:52.559 The crawfish hadn't gotten to their full maturity, so they're 1:28:52.560 --> 1:28:54.439 on the smaller side, so you got to boil them 1:28:54.439 --> 1:28:57.000 for a little less time we did. Once you drunk 1:28:57.120 --> 1:29:00.160 dump your crawfish in, it knocks that water down too, 1:29:00.400 --> 1:29:05.439 you know, down the heating down down below the boil. Yeah, 1:29:07.640 --> 1:29:09.880 and that and that pot will And that's why you 1:29:09.920 --> 1:29:13.760 gotta have it that high, that high burning you know, 1:29:14.240 --> 1:29:18.479 propane burner to really keep that that recovery short, because 1:29:18.560 --> 1:29:21.479 once that crawfish goes in, it lowers the temperature. It's 1:29:21.479 --> 1:29:23.920 got to come back up to a boil. Like I said, 1:29:23.960 --> 1:29:27.200 we balled for three minutes. After that three minutes, I 1:29:27.240 --> 1:29:29.439 dump a little small bowl of ice in it and 1:29:29.520 --> 1:29:32.320 I just let it soak for I was soaked for 1:29:32.400 --> 1:29:34.559 thirty minutes. And that's where this is like the part 1:29:34.640 --> 1:29:37.559 that this is the part that gets controversial. Yeah, well 1:29:37.600 --> 1:29:40.760 the soak is a little controversial. And also what I 1:29:40.880 --> 1:29:42.840 did once I put it in the cooler, I took 1:29:42.880 --> 1:29:44.680 a and this is kind of where a bud came 1:29:44.720 --> 1:29:47.400 in because I wanted Sometimes those crawfish seasons can be 1:29:47.479 --> 1:29:51.200 overly salty. A lot of times they can um so 1:29:51.640 --> 1:29:55.479 I'll use less powdered seasoning, more liquid boiled than I 1:29:55.600 --> 1:29:58.360 usually use because liquid doesn't have any salt. Then once 1:29:58.400 --> 1:30:02.000 the crawfish went into the cooler or ice chest, I 1:30:02.240 --> 1:30:05.320 sprinkled them with extra salt and a little bit of 1:30:05.400 --> 1:30:08.200 extra powdered crawfish seasoning, and Lennon let them sit and 1:30:08.320 --> 1:30:10.479 steam and kind of do their own thing. It's not 1:30:10.720 --> 1:30:13.280 enough to get all over your hands like a lot 1:30:13.320 --> 1:30:16.600 of places do in West Louisiana, you know, But but 1:30:17.240 --> 1:30:20.920 it it lets that crawfish really speak for itself without 1:30:21.120 --> 1:30:23.679 overpowering it with a whole bunch of seasoning and spice. 1:30:24.800 --> 1:30:29.439 And when we talked about that, yester uh, for people 1:30:29.560 --> 1:30:34.280 that love the flavor of crawfish, I just never understood 1:30:34.360 --> 1:30:39.600 why so much seasoning that it masque the flavor of 1:30:39.720 --> 1:30:43.400 your crawfish. If you know, I can't see myself heeding 1:30:43.439 --> 1:30:49.240 crawfish in my eyes are crowing because it's just yeah, 1:30:49.560 --> 1:30:54.320 I mean, you understand what I'm saying. And maybe it's that, 1:30:54.640 --> 1:30:57.240 maybe maybe we got used to adding so much seasoning 1:30:57.320 --> 1:31:00.360 because at some point we were used to maybe spillway 1:31:00.400 --> 1:31:03.280 crawfish a lot of fishiness on it where people didn't 1:31:03.280 --> 1:31:05.920 purge it really good. Because that's when you get in 1:31:05.960 --> 1:31:07.680 those wild crow fish. You have to purge, and so 1:31:07.800 --> 1:31:11.200 maybe purge wild crawfish because we used to pull the 1:31:11.280 --> 1:31:15.519 mud veins on them, so you don't find saltwater kills them. 1:31:15.560 --> 1:31:17.960 I like to just so this is my my purging method. 1:31:18.200 --> 1:31:20.760 I take ice chest or or a big bucket and 1:31:20.920 --> 1:31:23.400 I'll put them in a champaine or a basket. Put 1:31:23.439 --> 1:31:24.920 the crawfish in a basket in the water, and I 1:31:24.960 --> 1:31:27.520 put a hose pipe in there running and just circulate 1:31:27.640 --> 1:31:31.080 that water until that water becomes clear. How many how 1:31:31.120 --> 1:31:34.880 many hours? That take? Minutes? I mean with rice with 1:31:34.960 --> 1:31:37.639 those crawfish doesn't take and it takes I mean probably 1:31:37.720 --> 1:31:39.439 one or two fill ups and it it's it makes 1:31:39.520 --> 1:31:41.400 like I'll fill it up the first time, letter over 1:31:41.400 --> 1:31:43.880 for a little bit, pull the crawfish out, dump the water, 1:31:43.960 --> 1:31:46.639 and that water is gonna be dirty, dump it, put 1:31:46.680 --> 1:31:48.519 them back in, fill it back up. At that point 1:31:48.560 --> 1:31:50.600 water is gonna be a little bit clear, starting to 1:31:50.640 --> 1:31:53.840 get clear. And then one more time and that water 1:31:53.920 --> 1:31:56.320 is crystal clear you can drink it. It's at that 1:31:56.400 --> 1:31:58.200 point that's when I feel my crawfish are ready to 1:31:58.240 --> 1:31:59.920 go in the pot. And that's for the wild crow 1:32:00.000 --> 1:32:03.040 of fish, rice rice praw fish too, don't get me wrong, 1:32:03.040 --> 1:32:07.280 I've gotten fishy rice pinn crawfish because it's not a spillway. 1:32:07.280 --> 1:32:10.160 Crawfish aren't fishing because they're in a spillway. They're fishy 1:32:10.160 --> 1:32:13.000 because they're using fish for bait. I mean, ways, I 1:32:13.000 --> 1:32:14.920 don't spell away guys. They use pellets for bait, and 1:32:16.040 --> 1:32:18.120 there's no fishing as to them. I mean, that's more 1:32:18.160 --> 1:32:20.280 about what you're using for bait. A lot of people 1:32:20.360 --> 1:32:22.679 use fish early in the year because those those pellets 1:32:22.720 --> 1:32:25.240 take in the cold water take a lot longer to dissolve. 1:32:25.800 --> 1:32:29.120 So fish brings those crawfish in fast, like come Good Friday. 1:32:29.200 --> 1:32:32.160 When I used to sell crawfish, I would use I'd 1:32:32.240 --> 1:32:35.720 use fish or or beef malk with the pellet. To 1:32:35.800 --> 1:32:38.200 get that fast, I could run my traps twice a day. 1:32:38.280 --> 1:32:41.679 Verse you sell a lot of a lot of crawfish 1:32:41.760 --> 1:32:45.439 on Good Friday. Good Friday is the like the pinnacle 1:32:45.920 --> 1:32:51.519 of crawfish. Everybody everyone around here is Catholic, or for 1:32:51.600 --> 1:32:54.559 most part are Catholic. It's very, very predominant religion around here. 1:32:54.600 --> 1:32:58.960 So the thing is you don't eat metal. It's kind 1:32:58.960 --> 1:33:00.880 of like it because on part of a tradition to 1:33:00.960 --> 1:33:03.439 have be that death and then like like Good Friday 1:33:03.520 --> 1:33:05.479 is like the day that everybody gets together with their 1:33:05.479 --> 1:33:08.960 families and boils seafood and eats seafood, and and at 1:33:09.000 --> 1:33:10.760 that time of year, a crawfish are in the height 1:33:10.880 --> 1:33:13.479 of their season. Like that is like the the pinnacle 1:33:13.479 --> 1:33:16.200 of crawfish season. They're not they're still that they're not 1:33:16.360 --> 1:33:19.479 fully mature where they're red hard and hard to eat 1:33:19.520 --> 1:33:22.439 and you know, but they're not that little baby crawfish. 1:33:22.439 --> 1:33:24.240 They're just right perfect in the middle is just that 1:33:24.320 --> 1:33:27.679 perfect crawfish. That's and you've got spillway, you got rice 1:33:27.760 --> 1:33:31.920 and look spillway crawfish. I've seen dirty rice pine crawfish. 1:33:31.960 --> 1:33:34.800 I've seen clean spillway crawfish. Spillway crawfish tend to be 1:33:34.800 --> 1:33:36.880 a little more muddy or sometimes just because they've they've 1:33:36.920 --> 1:33:39.000 been in that swampy mud, so you may have to 1:33:39.000 --> 1:33:41.120 give them one additional rents down. But I like the 1:33:41.160 --> 1:33:43.760 perjursa built crawfish more for what it's what they're eating, 1:33:43.760 --> 1:33:46.120 because the crawfish has been eating fish. When you go 1:33:46.200 --> 1:33:49.320 to suck the head fat out, you get that yeah, 1:33:49.439 --> 1:33:55.080 got that fishy, you'll smell it. Kick uh Jehan Paul 1:33:55.160 --> 1:34:00.080 quick hit the the soak. What's happening during this so 1:34:01.320 --> 1:34:05.080 the soak, it's the crawfish are gonna float when they boil, 1:34:05.160 --> 1:34:07.280 when they're done, they they're they're gonna be sitting at 1:34:07.280 --> 1:34:09.080 the top of the water. And the soak is when 1:34:09.120 --> 1:34:11.400 you add that ice and let them sit, they start 1:34:11.479 --> 1:34:14.880 to absorb all that liquid and become you know, they're 1:34:14.880 --> 1:34:17.400 not boiling anymore. That water goes into the head cavity, 1:34:17.439 --> 1:34:20.559 into the tail cavity and they sink um and how 1:34:20.640 --> 1:34:24.600 to hit like an equilibrium with and I like, I 1:34:24.720 --> 1:34:27.200 like juicy crawfish. When I suck the head, I want 1:34:27.240 --> 1:34:29.400 to get all that interior fat and the juice from 1:34:29.400 --> 1:34:32.040 the broth. Which makes purging the crawfish that much more 1:34:32.080 --> 1:34:35.280 important because they're sitting in all the water they've been 1:34:35.320 --> 1:34:38.080 boiled in for thirty minutes, just soaking all that in. 1:34:38.240 --> 1:34:40.519 So if you don't purge it, you're gonna be soaking 1:34:40.560 --> 1:34:46.400 in dirty, nasty, seasoned and salty water but not clean. Fine, 1:34:46.439 --> 1:34:48.560 you get a grittiness to them too, like if you 1:34:48.600 --> 1:34:50.640 don't like, if you don't purge them, sometimes that'll be 1:34:50.800 --> 1:34:55.000 will be the soak will make them juicier will also 1:34:55.160 --> 1:34:59.160 make them more seasoned because they're taking in that liquid, 1:35:00.080 --> 1:35:02.640 you know, from that silk. Another thing too, with the 1:35:02.760 --> 1:35:04.519 with the shock. I find the shock helps with the 1:35:04.600 --> 1:35:06.519 peeling and when you hit them with that, it makes 1:35:06.560 --> 1:35:09.479 that that that the tail meat separate from the shell. 1:35:09.840 --> 1:35:12.280 Got it. And the soak, I think soak does the 1:35:12.320 --> 1:35:15.559 same thing as well. To put salt in the water 1:35:16.080 --> 1:35:18.080 that you're baled him in, I put a little bit. 1:35:18.640 --> 1:35:21.360 You see, I don't put salt at all, because I 1:35:21.479 --> 1:35:23.360 find if I had salt at the water, they don't 1:35:23.400 --> 1:35:26.360 peel as good. I just put a little bit of 1:35:26.439 --> 1:35:30.960 the the powdered boil, not any And I'll ball crow 1:35:31.080 --> 1:35:36.280 fish three minutes and you don't do a soak. Yeah, 1:35:36.720 --> 1:35:40.519 but fun about turn a seconds to man it and 1:35:40.640 --> 1:35:44.400 I take I just take all the basket. Wait about 1:35:44.400 --> 1:35:49.240 a minute, just that slide cool down. I'll take that 1:35:49.360 --> 1:35:52.200 basket and put it back in the same pot. And 1:35:52.360 --> 1:35:55.840 they all sank that every one of them will sink 1:35:57.040 --> 1:35:59.200 when they do that. It's because they're sucked up. They 1:35:59.280 --> 1:36:03.120 got it, was shocked, and they suck up the seasonings 1:36:03.200 --> 1:36:05.800 that are in your water. I'll leave them in about 1:36:06.880 --> 1:36:09.560 that second deep turn the seconds a minute and I 1:36:09.680 --> 1:36:12.280 pull them out and that see it, And we don't. 1:36:14.520 --> 1:36:20.479 We cook a lot with crawfish meat, so we don't 1:36:20.680 --> 1:36:25.519 over salty or overseason them. Because when I make an example, 1:36:26.360 --> 1:36:31.840 my wife makes a crawfish freakacy m hm uh. I 1:36:31.880 --> 1:36:34.519 don't want to sit there and need and it it 1:36:34.680 --> 1:36:37.519 tastes like I'm eating saut of ran scrab ball. I 1:36:37.640 --> 1:36:39.840 want to I want to point. I want to eat 1:36:40.479 --> 1:36:44.920 the crawfish. Can taste the flavor of those crawfish. Crawfish 1:36:45.200 --> 1:36:49.639 to fear another and look, any fancy restaurant in the city, 1:36:50.040 --> 1:36:52.320 you can walk into an auto crawfish had to fear. 1:36:52.640 --> 1:36:55.439 Do you know that you're you're not gonna walk in 1:36:55.560 --> 1:36:59.559 one of them and eat and it tastes zataran scrap 1:36:59.600 --> 1:37:03.479 ball or whatever. When you walk into a grocery store 1:37:03.560 --> 1:37:08.439 and buy a pack one pound pack of crawfish tails, 1:37:09.680 --> 1:37:13.160 and you can buy Louisiana crawfish tails, but you can 1:37:13.200 --> 1:37:18.160 also buy Chinese. You buy the Louisiana crawfish tails. When 1:37:18.479 --> 1:37:23.920 you open it and taste them, no salt, there's no seasoning, 1:37:24.920 --> 1:37:28.640 it's just a natural crawfish and you use that to 1:37:28.800 --> 1:37:32.160 cook to get that you understand. So when I when 1:37:32.200 --> 1:37:35.479 I cook crawfish, we're only cooking for me in my wife. 1:37:35.560 --> 1:37:37.760 You could you're cooking for a secondary use, not just 1:37:37.880 --> 1:37:40.799 the boil. Yeah, I'm heeding them for me and my wife. 1:37:41.240 --> 1:37:43.360 But then I got twenty pounds, I got a peel, 1:37:44.080 --> 1:37:46.920 and I have a commercial vacing packing machine. How long 1:37:46.960 --> 1:37:50.479 you been married? A hundred twenty three years? Next year 1:37:53.560 --> 1:37:57.280 reincarnated what's y'all? What's you'all pay you on? Freezing? With 1:37:57.360 --> 1:38:02.160 the fat? I do because I'm fat tail fat, the 1:38:02.240 --> 1:38:04.640 fat though, the yellow fat. Oh yeah, as much as 1:38:04.680 --> 1:38:11.320 I can, I'd keep you where. Yeah, you can't leave it. 1:38:11.520 --> 1:38:14.880 You gotta lose it within three or four months. I'm 1:38:14.960 --> 1:38:18.320 not gonna leave crawfish and my freezer for a year. 1:38:19.080 --> 1:38:23.120 We eat, we eat it twelve months off here we're cooking. 1:38:23.200 --> 1:38:27.360 We crawfit. So it doesn't it doesn't stay long enough 1:38:27.439 --> 1:38:30.479 in my freeze that I get Ran said, Okay, do 1:38:30.600 --> 1:38:33.200 you know what it? Just you gotta if you're if 1:38:33.240 --> 1:38:37.559 you're planning on keeping some longer. You pulled the gut line. 1:38:38.040 --> 1:38:41.000 That's what we do a lot. Ran ranch them good 1:38:41.080 --> 1:38:43.880 with fresh water and then pack them and you can 1:38:44.040 --> 1:38:47.920 keep on a wall. Okay, Ronny you ready, Yeah, what 1:38:48.040 --> 1:38:50.400 you got, We're gonna move on. The last thing we're 1:38:50.400 --> 1:38:53.920 in the cover today is potentially my new favorite way 1:38:53.920 --> 1:39:03.040 to eat ducks. Walks through it the routie teed, but 1:39:03.240 --> 1:39:06.479 you down on it. That's the way we were. We 1:39:06.640 --> 1:39:11.400 were raised on that. My grand my grandmother. Listen, this 1:39:11.640 --> 1:39:16.840 is gonna blow your morning. No listen, I'm listening. Recently, 1:39:18.640 --> 1:39:20.880 the building got knocked down. I can go short to you, 1:39:21.240 --> 1:39:29.160 Hurricane Ida. That was my grandmother's building. She would clean 1:39:29.320 --> 1:39:32.960 duck in and up until ot of knocked it down. 1:39:33.640 --> 1:39:37.160 She died in nineteen seventy six. You walked through the 1:39:37.240 --> 1:39:39.960 door and there was still duck fellers and the spotty 1:39:40.000 --> 1:39:45.640 webs in the ceiling. It was not a lot of 1:39:45.760 --> 1:39:52.240 people taught that. It's why we knew so much about 1:39:52.280 --> 1:39:54.360 duck hunting in my family. A lot of people thought 1:39:54.520 --> 1:39:59.439 market hunting in that in the thirties. My grandmother was 1:39:59.520 --> 1:40:05.160 still cleaning ducks in the seventies from three or four 1:40:05.280 --> 1:40:11.439 or five ducks are there in front of God. What 1:40:11.560 --> 1:40:14.360 I'm telling you, and all the game wars knew about it, 1:40:14.920 --> 1:40:18.800 and not once when she have a bonded they never 1:40:18.920 --> 1:40:22.759 came and they could have came there and not once. 1:40:23.000 --> 1:40:26.360 Then added her. She did that all her life. She 1:40:26.479 --> 1:40:30.320 would she'd save all the brass feathers and in the 1:40:30.400 --> 1:40:34.600 summertime my grandfather would put it in some long tubes 1:40:35.320 --> 1:40:38.519 and draw it into yard. And then in the fall 1:40:38.680 --> 1:40:42.160 my grandma would make pillows down. I still got a 1:40:42.240 --> 1:40:46.800 down pillow from my grandmother. There's a spoonbill head in 1:40:46.880 --> 1:40:54.200 the pillow. Have it? You're kidding me? I guess a 1:40:54.400 --> 1:40:57.320 dug head fell in the pillow and they never found it. 1:40:57.880 --> 1:41:01.040 And you can feel it. It's a spoon bill. I've 1:41:01.080 --> 1:41:05.280 been sleeping on it since Tom six, seven years old. 1:41:06.120 --> 1:41:12.800 That's that's my grandmother. And she liked to cook the 1:41:12.960 --> 1:41:15.920 root heat what's that word to get? That's the way 1:41:16.240 --> 1:41:20.479 the height. What's the dish called. It's a French word. 1:41:21.040 --> 1:41:27.439 It's it's a French word for roasting. It's just slow cooking. 1:41:28.439 --> 1:41:33.600 You're brown it out. A little water comes back that 1:41:33.760 --> 1:41:36.920 it's just grease out a little water and you just 1:41:37.120 --> 1:41:41.799 cooked for hours. Out a little water, bring it brown 1:41:42.160 --> 1:41:46.080 out a little water. In a black pot correct mostly 1:41:46.720 --> 1:41:49.360 black potter magnetite pots, you can really scrape the bottom 1:41:49.680 --> 1:41:53.320 we call that. We'll do that with Doug with our 1:41:53.520 --> 1:41:59.160 deer rules. Be frolls when a pork rolls rooted anything 1:41:59.240 --> 1:42:02.760 real negative? Stay about this, John Paul, Why am I 1:42:02.880 --> 1:42:09.920 being portrayed person? So I'm just giving some perspectives. He's like, yeah, 1:42:10.080 --> 1:42:14.280 let me know. I love that routine. I love that. 1:42:15.320 --> 1:42:18.720 So the routine duck traditionally, like budd said, you're gonna 1:42:18.800 --> 1:42:20.640 you're gonna brown it, I like to I like the 1:42:21.120 --> 1:42:24.840 you gotta back up, okay, because here's this, it's very 1:42:24.880 --> 1:42:28.360 important for people to know. Okay, I got a dead 1:42:28.439 --> 1:42:32.960 duck land there, all right, you getta getta walk the 1:42:33.080 --> 1:42:37.360 three your three stage fucking method. Just shot it. It's okay, 1:42:37.520 --> 1:42:40.679 it's still flopping, all right, just stop flopping. Just finished 1:42:40.720 --> 1:42:44.120 ringing his neck ring. Sorry, So I got you the 1:42:45.080 --> 1:42:47.240 fresh killed duck. Get back to the to the camp. 1:42:48.080 --> 1:42:49.600 What I'm gonna do. First thing, I'm gonna cut the 1:42:49.640 --> 1:42:51.920 wings off at the joint, because I don't like, you know, 1:42:52.000 --> 1:42:54.040 if you don't first joint, don't have the first joint, 1:42:54.080 --> 1:42:56.360 you're not cutting it off with the body, but the 1:42:56.400 --> 1:42:59.360 first yeah, the first joint out. You still got that elbow. Yeah, 1:42:59.560 --> 1:43:01.479 at a sailboy, you cut them at the eilboat. I 1:43:01.600 --> 1:43:03.479 like to cut them at the joint because I can't 1:43:03.479 --> 1:43:05.320 stand when I got those sharp bones poking into the 1:43:06.000 --> 1:43:09.040 small pellets, you know. So I cut him at the 1:43:09.080 --> 1:43:10.920 wing joints, and I'm gonna give them a rough pluck. 1:43:11.520 --> 1:43:13.040 You know, I'm not gonna focus a lot on those 1:43:13.040 --> 1:43:15.160 wing feathers because they're really hard to get. I'm gonna 1:43:15.160 --> 1:43:17.320 get all the breast feathers off, back feathers off but 1:43:17.439 --> 1:43:20.720 falls off, most of the leg feathers off, and then 1:43:21.240 --> 1:43:27.120 once he's pluck, when yeah, plucked, and then I'm gonna 1:43:27.160 --> 1:43:30.360 get get my water to a rolling boil. I'm gonna 1:43:30.360 --> 1:43:32.920 get a small, small crawfish spot and I'm gonna boil 1:43:33.040 --> 1:43:35.840 the water. Once I got that water boiling, i'm gonna 1:43:35.880 --> 1:43:37.639 take that duck and i'm gonna dip them for ten 1:43:37.760 --> 1:43:41.920 to fifteen seconds. And once once I'm done dipping, pull 1:43:42.000 --> 1:43:43.880 them out and I'm gonna dry them with an old towel, 1:43:44.120 --> 1:43:46.479 get them nice and dry, and then I'm gonna then 1:43:46.760 --> 1:43:55.080 remove the rest of those big feathers, which they'll come off. Yeah. 1:43:55.120 --> 1:43:57.800 The boiling is gonna open up those pores and and 1:43:58.040 --> 1:44:02.320 allow those, especially like in particularly wing feathers comes off 1:44:02.479 --> 1:44:04.160 real easy, and everything that would have been a pain 1:44:04.240 --> 1:44:07.720 in the everything there in the painting ask comes off 1:44:09.680 --> 1:44:14.479 the plug a chicken, yea factory hot water. Yeah, let's 1:44:14.600 --> 1:44:17.280 rub it off. So and then once once we do that, 1:44:17.560 --> 1:44:21.280 I'm gonna so if if I'm at my house and 1:44:21.360 --> 1:44:23.040 I don't have to keep a head or a head 1:44:23.080 --> 1:44:24.920 on the head on, I'm gonna go straight to the 1:44:25.000 --> 1:44:29.360 d bowing process before you burn it. Oh you got me? 1:44:31.720 --> 1:44:36.080 And what's your after the boiling process, Once you got 1:44:36.120 --> 1:44:38.280 your ducks all nice and pretty, you're gonna gree am. 1:44:38.360 --> 1:44:40.080 I'm gonna take the hot water off, and I'm gonna 1:44:40.160 --> 1:44:42.040 use that burner and I'm gonna hold the bill and 1:44:42.120 --> 1:44:44.760 the leg and I'm gonna pass that that duck through 1:44:44.760 --> 1:44:47.720 the fire just for a few seconds each burn all 1:44:47.840 --> 1:44:50.240 those little hairs off. Any other rain maybe feather I 1:44:50.320 --> 1:44:51.800 missed or something. I don't know what the hell those 1:44:51.800 --> 1:44:54.240 little hairs on a duck or called. I don't know, 1:44:54.800 --> 1:44:59.400 but you have a I know like so I know 1:44:59.640 --> 1:45:01.880 like of the pin feather, the pin feather. That's another 1:45:01.960 --> 1:45:04.360 thing that that's really good about boiling is the pin 1:45:04.439 --> 1:45:07.000 feather comes out really easy. And I like to take 1:45:07.000 --> 1:45:09.280 a knife in my thumb and that's a good trick 1:45:10.560 --> 1:45:14.960 and feather between your knife blade and your thumb. We 1:45:15.040 --> 1:45:17.360 call we call it the pin feather. A pouss on, 1:45:18.840 --> 1:45:20.960 didn't It wasn't Kid's grandma. They used to hearn. Her 1:45:21.000 --> 1:45:22.559 nickname was pouss On because she used to pull all 1:45:22.560 --> 1:45:27.360 the pouss on out. Pew. Okay, Kid's grandmother's nickname was 1:45:27.479 --> 1:45:29.519 pew because she used to shoot her good was to 1:45:29.560 --> 1:45:33.120 pull all the pin feathers out. Um. So yeah, so 1:45:33.160 --> 1:45:34.920 once you got the pin fails out, going to create 1:45:35.000 --> 1:45:37.559 that duck. And then once once you create them, you're 1:45:37.560 --> 1:45:39.720 just gonna give him a little slap, slap around, pat 1:45:39.800 --> 1:45:44.960 off those those that that burnt hair off then like so, 1:45:45.280 --> 1:45:48.479 and at this point it looks like a beauty, beautiful 1:45:48.720 --> 1:45:51.200 you you ain't You're not ever going to see a 1:45:51.280 --> 1:45:53.839 more beautiful duck that's been just been boiled and create. 1:45:53.960 --> 1:45:55.880 I mean that's just yeah. You put that shot on 1:45:55.960 --> 1:45:58.000 the front of Better Homes and Gardens man one of them. 1:45:59.760 --> 1:46:01.960 So so if like I said, I, if I'm at 1:46:02.000 --> 1:46:04.360 my house, I'm gonna go straight to the de boning process, 1:46:04.520 --> 1:46:06.040 because that way I gotta stick my hand up in 1:46:06.080 --> 1:46:08.439 the cavity to pull the guts out. So what I 1:46:08.520 --> 1:46:10.720 do is, I'm gonna take the duck like I showed you, 1:46:10.800 --> 1:46:13.080 and I'm gonna split right down the breasts. I'm gonna 1:46:13.120 --> 1:46:15.280 come around the wing joint, around the back of the 1:46:15.400 --> 1:46:17.880 duck to the leg joint, and then you get those 1:46:17.880 --> 1:46:20.240 halves of ducks like we had. And then once I've 1:46:20.280 --> 1:46:22.000 got the two house, you've got that that body core, 1:46:22.200 --> 1:46:27.320 the boneless breast, full wing, full leg correct every edible 1:46:27.360 --> 1:46:29.320 thing is off that duck. Everything. There is not a 1:46:29.360 --> 1:46:32.120 piece of meat left on that duck. So now i 1:46:32.200 --> 1:46:34.040 haven't gutted them yet. So what I'm gonna do now 1:46:34.160 --> 1:46:36.439 is I'm gonna make a slit under the breastplate and 1:46:36.479 --> 1:46:40.000 I'm gonna pull that breastplate up, opening the hatch. Opening 1:46:40.080 --> 1:46:42.880 the hatch, the heart, the liver, and the gigs thats 1:46:42.880 --> 1:46:46.320 gonna be sitting right there and you just pull them out, 1:46:46.439 --> 1:46:48.240 put them to the side, and I'm gonna do all 1:46:48.280 --> 1:46:50.120 my ducks like that, and then I'm gonna come back 1:46:50.120 --> 1:46:52.080 to the to the gizzer, which we call it a 1:46:53.439 --> 1:46:56.360 and um, I'm gonna cut on each side of that 1:46:56.720 --> 1:46:59.040 silt sack. And I'm gonna have two pieces, two little 1:46:59.080 --> 1:47:01.720 nut gives a nugget. That's nur trick I learned from you. Yeah, 1:47:01.840 --> 1:47:03.400 because I had to go through all the hassle open 1:47:03.439 --> 1:47:05.960 the sun's bitches up and scraping them and scraping them. 1:47:05.960 --> 1:47:07.639 But then I wind up with exactly what you wind 1:47:07.760 --> 1:47:10.839 up with. Just cut it off, just like a stupid 1:47:11.200 --> 1:47:14.600 I had no idea. I wasted so much time. Same here, man, like, 1:47:14.720 --> 1:47:18.280 I wind up with exactly the same thing. Yeah, maybe 1:47:18.320 --> 1:47:20.120 you lose no meat, and then no, you want up 1:47:20.160 --> 1:47:22.280 with with I don't know what I was doing, Yeah, 1:47:22.320 --> 1:47:25.760 And then it makes much I like. I like. I 1:47:25.920 --> 1:47:28.519 like to reward my dog after a good hunt of 1:47:28.960 --> 1:47:31.080 you know, she's she's she does more work than any 1:47:31.160 --> 1:47:33.080 of us out there, so I like to give her. 1:47:33.520 --> 1:47:35.280 I'm not a big liver fan. I'll feed her the 1:47:35.360 --> 1:47:39.120 livers and uh, I give her the gizzard corpse and 1:47:39.400 --> 1:47:45.840 uh and the and the trips and how many ducks 1:47:45.880 --> 1:47:51.320 have you and I cleaned together? So we shot some 1:47:51.680 --> 1:47:54.360 shot some gallan new. Would you do the same thing 1:47:54.439 --> 1:47:57.559 with gallan New? What you mean I mean that same process? 1:47:57.720 --> 1:48:00.800 Or is it so the Gallanu. I like to start 1:48:00.840 --> 1:48:03.160 by cutting the wings off, and then I'm gonna slit 1:48:03.200 --> 1:48:07.280 their throat and put there's a where their crops at. 1:48:07.320 --> 1:48:09.080 You got a lot of skin. I gave it a 1:48:09.160 --> 1:48:11.799 little slit. Peel that skin a little bit off the breast, 1:48:11.880 --> 1:48:15.880 and I'm gonna stick my finger down the I guess 1:48:15.880 --> 1:48:18.519 where the wishbone is. I'm gonna pull the head and 1:48:18.560 --> 1:48:20.920 pull the wishbone, and that breast is gonna come out 1:48:21.000 --> 1:48:22.240 nice and pretty. And like I said, if I'm in 1:48:22.320 --> 1:48:24.120 my house, I don't need to leave a wing. So 1:48:24.680 --> 1:48:26.720 by cutting those wings off, the skin just peels right 1:48:26.760 --> 1:48:29.280 off and you get a perfect breast, no feather's no 1:48:29.400 --> 1:48:31.679 clean up. Let toss that in a bucket of water 1:48:31.800 --> 1:48:34.120 and then just like with then handed to Chester the 1:48:34.200 --> 1:48:38.720 d braster dude, I will say about those gallon new 1:48:38.960 --> 1:48:46.320 wholely cow. Yeah, it's a good bird I'd rather eat. Yeah. 1:48:46.640 --> 1:48:49.639 And the thing too bout that Argalls does from y'all 1:48:49.680 --> 1:49:02.160 tarking American. Oh Yeah, very similar. So and another thing 1:49:02.360 --> 1:49:04.040 back to like when gonna pull the breasts out that way, 1:49:04.160 --> 1:49:06.120 just like the duck, It's like when you open that hatch, 1:49:06.240 --> 1:49:08.040 there's the gizzard the heart and the liver just sitting 1:49:08.080 --> 1:49:10.080 right on top, you know, having the dig through the trips. 1:49:10.160 --> 1:49:16.040 None of that flips. So so then there you are. 1:49:16.240 --> 1:49:19.719 You got your duck. Go on, keep keep making the dish. 1:49:21.040 --> 1:49:23.120 Got your halfs now. Now I've got my two halves 1:49:23.160 --> 1:49:25.320 in my duck. I'm gonna go and get a magnelite 1:49:25.360 --> 1:49:28.000 pot or black pot, and I'm gonna put a little 1:49:28.040 --> 1:49:30.120 bit of olive oil, a little bit of grease, just 1:49:30.280 --> 1:49:32.439 enough to wet the bottom that way, I don't get 1:49:32.479 --> 1:49:34.680 a hard stick when I throw it in. And I'm 1:49:34.680 --> 1:49:36.600 gonna take those I'm gonna take those duck hives, and 1:49:36.600 --> 1:49:40.040 I'm ana laying fat down on a medium heat, and 1:49:40.120 --> 1:49:42.439 I'm gonna start to cook that skin down and get 1:49:42.479 --> 1:49:45.479 as much fat out of that skin to make my grease. 1:49:45.720 --> 1:49:47.479 I hope people are listening to what you're saying right now, 1:49:48.240 --> 1:49:51.280 So yeah, I get that, get that that duck. Like listen, 1:49:51.320 --> 1:49:53.600 I don't I want people understand something you got like 1:49:53.720 --> 1:49:57.800 your ten Commandments, okay, get like the Constitution, you got 1:49:57.880 --> 1:50:01.479 like the Declaration Independence, and then you got this recipe. 1:50:02.640 --> 1:50:04.559 Ship is all sort of like you know what I mean, 1:50:05.400 --> 1:50:09.960 So listen, so I get those ducks half down, fat down, 1:50:10.040 --> 1:50:13.040 and I'm gonna brown them down till the just the 1:50:13.120 --> 1:50:16.080 tops of them start to cook. And the big thing 1:50:16.200 --> 1:50:18.559 is you do not want to over brown them, because 1:50:18.600 --> 1:50:20.400 then those ducks arena get real not in hard, and 1:50:20.439 --> 1:50:23.599 they're not gonna get tender. So as as they get 1:50:23.680 --> 1:50:25.280 to where I like them brown, I'm gonna pull them 1:50:25.320 --> 1:50:27.120 out and put them in a metal a metal bowl 1:50:27.600 --> 1:50:29.920 and get them all that. Once I've browned all my ducks, 1:50:30.280 --> 1:50:33.160 I'm gonna take my my trinity, my my, my, my onions, 1:50:33.640 --> 1:50:36.240 my bell peppers, and my salary diced belt. Okay, so 1:50:36.360 --> 1:50:40.320 it's diced diced bell peppers and Jehan Paul give them 1:50:40.439 --> 1:50:44.439 give the official ratio. Yeah, I mean I always used 1:50:44.520 --> 1:50:52.680 like I go one one so more onion to two 1:50:52.720 --> 1:50:55.040 parts onion, one part bell pepper, one part cellery, and 1:50:55.120 --> 1:51:00.240 I don't really tell are completely avoid I see a lot. Yeah, 1:51:00.800 --> 1:51:03.400 but I asked you a quick question. One word answer 1:51:03.479 --> 1:51:08.559 is fine to three word answer. What ratio do you cook? Rice? 1:51:09.200 --> 1:51:18.920 M hmm, first joint, first joint. That's how I've done. Yeah, 1:51:19.360 --> 1:51:27.400 you can cook you apot of rise. It's my dad 1:51:27.600 --> 1:51:32.240 working off shore. I learned I can cook anything. My dad, 1:51:32.760 --> 1:51:34.840 I saw my doubt what you're doing. I'm cooking ross 1:51:34.920 --> 1:51:37.439 or what you? Why you? Why are you sticking your finger? 1:51:37.880 --> 1:51:39.920 He said, doesn't matter how much trust you put in there. 1:51:39.960 --> 1:51:42.960 You imagine the water up to that first joint where 1:51:42.960 --> 1:51:45.920 you touching the ros is gonna come out perfect. Every 1:51:46.000 --> 1:51:51.559 time I've been doing it for sixty for fifty five years, 1:51:52.560 --> 1:51:56.120 it comes out perfect. Every time. There's your three word answer. 1:52:04.040 --> 1:52:08.519 So back to the back to the your trinity. Onions belt, 1:52:09.000 --> 1:52:12.639 two onions, one part bell pepper, one part cellery, diced 1:52:12.680 --> 1:52:15.599 up and throwing the Pope's hat, which is a little 1:52:15.600 --> 1:52:18.320 bit of garlic, a little chop garlic. So I'm gonna 1:52:18.320 --> 1:52:22.240 throw that into my duck fat grease that I've just 1:52:22.360 --> 1:52:26.160 made by browning down those ducks. And also with my trinity, 1:52:26.160 --> 1:52:30.120 I'm gonna throw in my gizzards in my hearts. I'm 1:52:30.120 --> 1:52:32.799 gonna brown that down, get them, get them onion sweating, 1:52:33.280 --> 1:52:35.800 and I'm gonna brown down to the consistency I like, 1:52:36.000 --> 1:52:39.439 which you know, with any anything, you just get it 1:52:39.479 --> 1:52:42.360 browned down and thickens. And then once I'm to the 1:52:42.400 --> 1:52:44.680 browning process, I like, I'm gonna take those ducks I'm 1:52:44.720 --> 1:52:47.680 gonna dump them back in to the onions and give 1:52:47.720 --> 1:52:50.040 them a little more of a browning down in there. 1:52:50.560 --> 1:52:52.280 And I'm gonna take that bowl, and the ducks are 1:52:52.320 --> 1:52:54.040 sitting in a lot of a lot more grease and 1:52:54.120 --> 1:52:55.920 blood's gonna have to licked out those ducks. And I'm 1:52:55.920 --> 1:52:59.280 gonna put some water in there, throw that around, dump 1:52:59.320 --> 1:53:02.000 it in, and then gonna fill the pot up just 1:53:02.240 --> 1:53:05.600 above where everything's sitting in in some chicken stock and 1:53:05.680 --> 1:53:07.720 some chicken broth with a little bit of water, and 1:53:07.720 --> 1:53:09.360 I'm gonna bring it just to where it's above that 1:53:10.960 --> 1:53:12.880 um there. And so I'm and then I'm gonna bring 1:53:13.320 --> 1:53:16.960 get that boiling now this so most people would just 1:53:17.080 --> 1:53:19.680 continue to add as the water would drop or the 1:53:19.680 --> 1:53:21.560 stock would drop, they'd add a little water out, a 1:53:21.600 --> 1:53:23.760 little water out of the water. I have three ways 1:53:23.840 --> 1:53:25.600 that I like to do it. I do it that 1:53:25.680 --> 1:53:27.800 way where you just add water every time it drops down. 1:53:28.600 --> 1:53:33.040 Or I'll put it in the I'm adding water when 1:53:33.040 --> 1:53:36.040 it's on the burner. Um Or I'll put it in 1:53:36.120 --> 1:53:39.160 the oven for a couple of hours is my second 1:53:39.200 --> 1:53:40.600 way I do it. And then my third way I 1:53:40.680 --> 1:53:43.160 do it like if sometimes I'll just sit there. I'll 1:53:43.200 --> 1:53:44.600 throw it if I if I don't really have a 1:53:44.640 --> 1:53:45.680 lot of time to cook it, or if I want 1:53:45.680 --> 1:53:47.439 to eat the next day, I'm gonna take those ducks. 1:53:47.439 --> 1:53:50.439 I'm gonna throw them in a slow cooker overnight and 1:53:50.520 --> 1:53:54.160 then then then So the next step is once you 1:53:54.280 --> 1:53:55.920 either way you do it, you're gonna so you can 1:53:55.960 --> 1:53:57.960 do the ball down process where you just bail it down, 1:53:58.000 --> 1:53:59.920 added water, ball down to the ducks are tender and 1:54:00.000 --> 1:54:02.800 and it's ready. So Ronnie, really, yesterday when we made 1:54:02.840 --> 1:54:05.240 the recipe for this, we had a we had an 1:54:05.280 --> 1:54:08.080 extra ingredient that we got from the bodies. Oh yeah, 1:54:08.160 --> 1:54:10.120 so yeah we didn't. But you don't always have that. 1:54:10.360 --> 1:54:12.760 You don't always have a lot of times, I'll add 1:54:12.840 --> 1:54:15.280 mushrooms whenever I don't have gizzards and hearts, just just 1:54:15.439 --> 1:54:18.519 to kind of imitate that that feeling. But we we 1:54:18.560 --> 1:54:21.280 actually went out and got those uh those oyster mushrooms 1:54:23.000 --> 1:54:26.920 champions will the while champions, and we we did add 1:54:27.000 --> 1:54:30.200 that in there too, So um, that came out really good. 1:54:30.720 --> 1:54:34.120 Um yesterday I used the oven method because we went 1:54:34.160 --> 1:54:36.840 out crawl fishing, so it was easy. I just I 1:54:36.920 --> 1:54:39.520 got it. I got the water hot, took it off 1:54:39.600 --> 1:54:42.920 the stove, stuck in the oven for two hours while 1:54:42.960 --> 1:54:46.520 we were crawl fishing. Came back. So with the ball 1:54:46.600 --> 1:54:49.800 down process, once you're done, once you've got it the 1:54:50.080 --> 1:54:52.960 ducks tender and the gravy to the consistency, you like, 1:54:53.520 --> 1:54:56.600 it's done, it's ready to put it over some rice. Um. 1:54:56.920 --> 1:55:00.280 Now with the slow cooker and the oven method. Once 1:55:00.320 --> 1:55:02.400 I've got the ducks to the tenderness I want, I'm 1:55:02.400 --> 1:55:04.240 gonna put it back on the stove and I'm gonna 1:55:04.640 --> 1:55:07.200 finish off with the ball down method to ball down 1:55:07.280 --> 1:55:10.800 and get that gravy just to the consistency in the 1:55:10.880 --> 1:55:12.480 darkness that all light. So then you just let it 1:55:12.640 --> 1:55:14.960 rip and boil that water off, cook it down, brown 1:55:15.040 --> 1:55:16.440 it a little bit, get it, you know, get that 1:55:16.680 --> 1:55:18.000 if it's not if it's because a lot of times 1:55:18.040 --> 1:55:19.720 when you when you use a slow cooker in the oven, 1:55:20.200 --> 1:55:22.240 your gravy is gonna be a little lighter. Like last night, 1:55:22.280 --> 1:55:24.960 the gravy was a little a little lighter than I 1:55:25.520 --> 1:55:28.160 So you just just roll boil it off there, yeah, 1:55:28.480 --> 1:55:30.520 roll roll boil, But you don't want to start too heavy, 1:55:30.640 --> 1:55:33.160 especially because then the ducks will fall apart. So you 1:55:33.240 --> 1:55:34.680 just want to kind of have brown. Just make sure 1:55:34.720 --> 1:55:41.320 nothing sticking down that the word routed. We cook everything 1:55:41.480 --> 1:55:44.680 like that just if your days or go up. While 1:55:44.760 --> 1:55:46.560 we were at the pond, I mentioned to you we 1:55:46.680 --> 1:55:50.440 had a campside where we go do two trinadas and 1:55:50.800 --> 1:55:55.760 coyotas annoyed. We cooked a rabbit the same way, but 1:55:55.880 --> 1:56:00.760 with all the trinity just brown died, kept out of 1:56:00.800 --> 1:56:04.200 it over account farm in a black pot, little water, 1:56:04.320 --> 1:56:07.880 salt and papa. And when the rabbit got timned it 1:56:08.160 --> 1:56:11.440 we haved out over rice. Me and my friend Jameson 1:56:11.560 --> 1:56:15.680 that was there. We cooked died a couple of times. 1:56:15.760 --> 1:56:20.520 So far. We've done a rabbit, swamp rabbits, no raised 1:56:21.240 --> 1:56:28.480 farm rabbit, Jason raises rabbits California, something in a New 1:56:28.640 --> 1:56:34.080 Zealand the huge drabbit. It's pretty good that that cleaning 1:56:34.120 --> 1:56:36.760 method I was telling about both the ra pudos and 1:56:36.920 --> 1:56:40.600 the ducks actually came from. But but in their family, 1:56:41.000 --> 1:56:43.720 that was a trick that they showed me. I used 1:56:43.720 --> 1:56:45.440 to my dad, No, I just used to just give 1:56:45.520 --> 1:56:48.320 him a real good plug and then we create him 1:56:48.360 --> 1:56:51.560 that boiling action. Actually like that boiling action, that's something. 1:56:53.440 --> 1:56:54.960 And the thing with the with the ra pudos that 1:56:55.040 --> 1:56:56.680 that that process. A lot of times like we go 1:56:56.840 --> 1:56:58.520 do these coot shoots and where we go out there. 1:56:58.560 --> 1:57:00.400 We'll go out there with a whole bunch of us 1:57:00.400 --> 1:57:02.880 and we'll shoot. But it was a coot shoot. Man. 1:57:03.040 --> 1:57:04.760 He was the one who showed us the coot shoot too. 1:57:05.120 --> 1:57:06.640 And we used to go camp out there in high 1:57:06.640 --> 1:57:09.400 school in the blind just I got a T shirt, 1:57:09.720 --> 1:57:11.320 I got I got them all. I don't know, I 1:57:12.000 --> 1:57:19.200 got one shot poor, I got them all some T shirts, 1:57:20.160 --> 1:57:25.440 uh like Buff. But yeah, there was many times we 1:57:25.520 --> 1:57:27.600 had enough people we came back with over a hundred 1:57:27.600 --> 1:57:30.160 poudos because a lot of fifteen a day, fifteen per 1:57:30.240 --> 1:57:32.000 person per day. We would go out there with a 1:57:32.120 --> 1:57:35.880 big group. When he told you how to pull the brass, 1:57:35.960 --> 1:57:38.920 the whole brass off, we'd sit there, three or four 1:57:38.960 --> 1:57:44.840 of us. Yeah, we we sit there. We make an 1:57:44.880 --> 1:57:47.800 assembly line. Like one guy was cutting wings, one guy 1:57:47.960 --> 1:57:49.720 one or two guys pulling brass, the next guy was 1:57:49.760 --> 1:57:52.440 pulling gizzards and hearts, and it was an assembly line. 1:57:52.480 --> 1:57:54.520 And like you said, we would we clean a hundred 1:57:54.560 --> 1:58:00.160 poutos and we wouldn't hunt like Buff. We had to 1:58:00.240 --> 1:58:05.920 have some type of assembly line. Yeah, frogs you, Yeah, 1:58:05.960 --> 1:58:08.600 we had to have an assembly line. We go, we 1:58:08.680 --> 1:58:12.879 go to launch hed lawnch Hed was the cleaning factory. 1:58:13.040 --> 1:58:15.560 Was the cleaning fact same thing with ducks. It was 1:58:15.600 --> 1:58:18.160 like an assembly line. We had some people plucking, a 1:58:18.200 --> 1:58:22.200 guy cutting wings, everybody plucking, someone boiling, someone rubbing, and 1:58:22.280 --> 1:58:26.240 that the process would be Remember the episode in Mississippi 1:58:26.320 --> 1:58:30.360 when the snow hut. That was an assembling line. Yeah, 1:58:30.920 --> 1:58:32.800 I mean there were fathers. When we got through, it 1:58:32.920 --> 1:58:37.920 looked like it had snowed and that it was windy. 1:58:38.360 --> 1:58:41.000 We were plugging, we were we were cutting them feathers 1:58:41.080 --> 1:58:43.360 over the snow geese and we're skinning the snows and 1:58:43.400 --> 1:58:46.240 plucking the specks. Yeah, it looked like it had snow. 1:58:46.440 --> 1:58:49.920 In that whole field behind the camp. There was all 1:58:50.000 --> 1:58:53.880 the feathers from the s and the ducks. We shot 1:58:54.040 --> 1:58:56.160 what we had. We don't know we had ten of us. 1:58:56.240 --> 1:58:58.840 We mean we shot we shot like sixty ducks and 1:58:59.000 --> 1:59:03.320 like ninety geese. I wanna, um, we're gonna close out, 1:59:03.320 --> 1:59:04.720 But I want to share with you guys a recipe 1:59:04.720 --> 1:59:07.360 I think you'll be interested in. Already told John paul 1:59:08.080 --> 1:59:09.720 I wrote it down. The reason you like it is 1:59:09.720 --> 1:59:14.160 because it involves ducks, involves rice. But this is from 1:59:14.200 --> 1:59:17.480 a northern and our first joint. I didn't know about 1:59:17.520 --> 1:59:20.360 any of that. Man, My right sucks compared to you guys. Rice. 1:59:20.960 --> 1:59:22.880 The back of my rice bag has been lying to 1:59:22.960 --> 1:59:24.720 me my whole life. They tell you in the back 1:59:24.760 --> 1:59:27.120 of the bag what I told you. I'm not joking trying. 1:59:27.320 --> 1:59:31.000 Oh listen, man, I'm tip of your finger touches the rice. 1:59:31.120 --> 1:59:33.960 If the waters that this first joint, it's gonna come 1:59:34.000 --> 1:59:37.960 out perfect. This man's paused now every single time that 1:59:38.080 --> 1:59:45.680 knuckles high, got a high knuckle high. Us should do it. 1:59:45.840 --> 1:59:48.800 It's gonna be perfect. Every time I have been when 1:59:48.840 --> 1:59:50.280 you I don't know if you've ever read the back 1:59:50.320 --> 1:59:51.920 of a rice bag. What they tell you to do 1:59:52.480 --> 1:59:55.200 is they tell you to do two to one. Yeah, 1:59:56.000 --> 1:59:58.320 So you put the parage cup. Yeah, you put the 1:59:58.400 --> 1:59:59.680 rice in there. You put the water there and bring 1:59:59.760 --> 2:00:01.880 it to boil, and then I cook it till the 2:00:01.960 --> 2:00:04.840 water is gone. I cook it till the water is gone. 2:00:05.880 --> 2:00:07.600 It just kind of looks right now, let it sit. 2:00:07.720 --> 2:00:09.640 Then I fluff it. But my rice sucks compare to 2:00:09.680 --> 2:00:11.480 you guys. Right, you kind of you kind of fluff it. 2:00:12.520 --> 2:00:14.600 I cook it in a pot too. When we're camping 2:00:14.680 --> 2:00:20.960 them all rice cook on a pot, the fingers and 2:00:21.920 --> 2:00:25.960 when the water is gone, don't fluff your ice. You 2:00:26.120 --> 2:00:30.720 just put the cover on and turn the fire just barely. 2:00:32.040 --> 2:00:35.760 Like you, you try to mimic what the rice cooker 2:00:35.840 --> 2:00:41.040 is doing. He knows what I'm talking about. You. Yeah, 2:00:41.120 --> 2:00:43.520 you just turn it down, lo lo lo. I leave 2:00:43.560 --> 2:00:46.320 it a few minutes, and when you open that rice pot, 2:00:46.360 --> 2:00:49.280 it's gonna be perfect. Let me tell you real quick, though, 2:00:49.440 --> 2:00:50.760 what I what I made the other day that I 2:00:50.800 --> 2:00:55.240 thought was good, like phenomenally good? Is I cook? I 2:00:55.320 --> 2:00:57.120 cook my ducks in a what you guys call a 2:00:57.160 --> 2:01:01.320 black pot like cathline scale. So I got my halves. 2:01:01.760 --> 2:01:03.600 I sear hum skin side down. This is the way 2:01:03.640 --> 2:01:07.520 I eat the ducks. I e. I sear the half 2:01:07.600 --> 2:01:09.680 just like Ryan described. I steer the half skin side 2:01:09.720 --> 2:01:13.440 down on the on the stove top. I flip it 2:01:14.400 --> 2:01:17.200 skin side up and put in a four degree of 2:01:17.360 --> 2:01:19.400 and for a few minutes I eat him very rare. 2:01:20.560 --> 2:01:22.520 When you pull them out, you got all that duck 2:01:22.600 --> 2:01:27.200 fat that rendered out in that skillet. Then I took 2:01:27.280 --> 2:01:30.280 old rice that I had cooked the day before and 2:01:30.440 --> 2:01:36.200 make like a fried rice, duck fat fried rice. That 2:01:36.280 --> 2:01:44.000 sounds good. Man, Come on talking to a real Cajun 2:01:44.080 --> 2:01:47.280 restaurant near you. When I come down and get my restaurant, 2:01:47.320 --> 2:01:52.760 the real Cajun, I had that rice dressing, and we're 2:01:52.760 --> 2:01:57.920 gonna have that fried rice, and every table's gonna have 2:01:58.040 --> 2:02:02.440 a tank with sauce coumbing up. You know, there's not 2:02:02.440 --> 2:02:04.000 even gonna be a sign. You'll know it's the right 2:02:04.040 --> 2:02:07.320 restaurant when you see a reservoir of hot sauce bolted 2:02:07.360 --> 2:02:09.280 to the roof. It's like the water the Gallean of 2:02:09.360 --> 2:02:16.200 water Towns eighteen wheeler coming from every all and every 2:02:16.280 --> 2:02:20.880 week bringing a hot sauce. Alright, guys, this has been 2:02:20.920 --> 2:02:22.960 a great trip. Man. I learned so much about cooking 2:02:23.040 --> 2:02:27.400 down here, a lot about cooking. I really appreciate it. 2:02:27.520 --> 2:02:30.880 And but I appreciate your generosity yesterday letting us go 2:02:30.960 --> 2:02:33.040 over and pull the harvest off your pond. Actually, it 2:02:33.200 --> 2:02:38.040 wasn't honor for me to have y'all hears on your faces, 2:02:38.160 --> 2:02:40.520 and y'all look like y'all had a good time, So 2:02:41.400 --> 2:02:43.600 I mean, that's all that matters. It was a great time. 2:02:44.000 --> 2:02:46.920 And Ronnie Collins, thank you for everything showing us all 2:02:46.960 --> 2:02:50.360 around Johan Paul, all the great cooking stuff, all the 2:02:50.440 --> 2:02:53.800 hanging out, all the corrections. I was waiting for some 2:02:54.040 --> 2:02:59.320 sorry listen man. It made it uh having the uh 2:03:01.520 --> 2:03:06.880 you know, all the context, the culinary context was very helpful. 2:03:07.080 --> 2:03:14.160 I'm only teasing about the like, yeah, uh, everything I 2:03:14.240 --> 2:03:16.760 learned about Buddin and what isn't it isn't. I appreciate 2:03:16.800 --> 2:03:20.040 all that stuff. Thank you, do you do until next episode? 2:03:20.160 --> 2:03:20.879 Thanks everybody,