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Speaker 1: this is a special Louisiana edition. In fact, Rannie Collins

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Speaker 1: explain what we're on right now. Uh, we're sitting on

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Speaker 1: of Bay Lafouche. That's right, man, it's like a cruise ship.

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Speaker 1: It is. How how do you how did you guys

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Speaker 1: wind up with this thing? So my grandpa actually built

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Speaker 1: send them work on the houseboat. So he built the

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Speaker 1: barge first, which took about a year, and then he

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Speaker 1: my mom lined up some carpenters to do the inside,

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Speaker 1: and you guys can move this thing around depending on

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Speaker 1: where you want to hang out. Correct. We Uh we

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Speaker 1: your family business. So my family business is oil field construction,

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Speaker 1: marine construction. We actually uh build oil platforms out in

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Speaker 1: handful of tugs, um probably another eight arges and then

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Speaker 1: this is strictly just the family houseboat. We don't, dude,

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Speaker 1: house boat has a Christmas tree in it, It has plates,

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Speaker 1: a full kitchen, decorations, multiple bathrooms. How many bathrooms? Three

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Speaker 1: uh to appear and then three upstairs, so five by

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Speaker 1: if it wasn't even on a boat. Yeah exactly, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you put it on a boat. Next level you can

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Speaker 1: some night on the hot wire. One of them tugboats

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Speaker 1: dragged this thing the southeast Alaska. They got they got

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Speaker 1: one right there and they can push it. Oh, it's

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Speaker 1: we have been like immersed in the culture also so

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Speaker 1: proper bouge Jean Paul, bourgeois, sir, good French name. Yep, yep.

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Speaker 1: So I'm from Thiboda, Louisiana, which is a little north

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Speaker 1: know why you're here, Budding? Not really. We only just

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Speaker 1: We met Buddy yesterday because we went this. I didn't

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Speaker 1: some people have a garden that they take care of

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Speaker 1: What do you want too right now? The flies? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: The tensils and chilks I used date from around nineteen. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's uh, I'm gonna have to show you. Just uh,

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Speaker 1: little things. I don't like hacking on vegans man at all.

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Speaker 1: have liked his ex father in law because he had

423
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 1: to throw in there. My ex father in law wounded. Um.

424
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: I noticed that. Yeah, and that was um. I learned

425
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 1: a new word with my wife the r D. I

426
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: think that that's called a microaggression. Yeah, just the he's

427
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 1: like what what what? He wounded one? I'm just telling

428
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: you he wouldn't, you know. But it's like it's like

429
00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: a little it's a little jam. Yea. So the ex

430
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: father in law wounded one. Um, but it must have

431
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: been a pretty good spot because that four years later

432
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: the guy goes in this spot and there he sees

433
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,239
Speaker 1: his ex father in law. We left out that they

434
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: had a divorce, yes, well ex father in all okay,

435
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, so this this guy is in there hunting

436
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 1: this hunt this spot. And I know we've covered this before.

437
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: Spots and my take on this, and it's real simple.

438
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: If some dude shows you a spot, um, especially like

439
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,239
Speaker 1: a smaller spot, well, just in regards to anything like

440
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 1: any spot situation, like, it's always good to ask if

441
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: you're going to go in there. That's like a very

442
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: simple way. Here's the thing. Go on, don't don't go

443
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 1: on to number two. But I got something to say

444
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 1: about number one. All of these things have a bunch

445
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: of gray area there too. Like I don't know how

446
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 1: big this spot is. It could be a giant public

447
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:03,239
Speaker 1: land spot. Um. I got to you can go off,

448
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: go fight, You're right, I agree with you in general. Yeah,

449
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 1: if you have a spot and you take your father

450
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 1: in law out, and then you get a divorce and

451
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: he stops being your father in law. I feel the

452
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: father in law needs to move on and find a

453
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 1: new spot because the divorce ended that relationship. But I

454
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 1: don't know the details of the divorce. If this guy

455
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: that wrote in was a flanderer and that behavior led

456
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: to the divorce, and there was some other ugly factors

457
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: involved in the divorce, this father in law might not

458
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: even like hunting. He's just doing anything. You can you

459
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: ever say a movie in the bedroom, he's just doing everything.

460
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: Lobster Fisher, Huh, But I wouldn't guess that by the title. Well,

461
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: it's it's a part of a lobster trap, got you

462
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: in the bedroom part of lobster Anyways, this father in

463
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: law kills his wife's ex husband. I kind of ruined

464
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: the movie. It's in the end, but spoiler. So it

465
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: might be that he was sticking it to the guy,

466
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: sticking it to him over something that we don't know about. Yeah,

467
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: but you do. But here's the thing. In your position

468
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: as the check at man, you can't be bogged down

469
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: by all the unknowns. Yes, and here's another lesson on that.

470
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: For this guy who took the father in law, it

471
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: sounds like he didn't quite really like him. If you're

472
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: gonna take someone out to your good hunting spot, make

473
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: sure you really like him. Make sure they like good buddy,

474
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: you know, which can you know, things can change, things

475
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: can change down the road, But just do your do

476
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: your best to you know, have a good good buddy.

477
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: You know, I don't. You're a married Manchester. Yeah, I've

478
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: been married a hell but longer than you, uh in

479
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: that situation, and it might not be that he could.

480
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: It might not be that he could. Uh, you know,

481
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: you gotta be like, there's about there's some politics involved

482
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: and being married man. Yeah, she's like, well, how come

483
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: we don't take my dad hunting? Look, let me come on. Oh,

484
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,479
Speaker 1: I know what you're saying big time. It might be

485
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: like if someone you know, your wife asked you to

486
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: do something, you just do it. Yeah. So that's why

487
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: you have B and C spots. Yeah, there you go.

488
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: I got just a spot for you. It's not right hunt.

489
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:36,239
Speaker 1: Put him in the car, put him in the bring him,

490
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: bring him to the muck. Okay, another one here next,

491
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: whether or not the next cheddicker question, So this is

492
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: a property thing. This guy bought forty acres of land,

493
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: wanted to have his own little chunk to hunt. Oh no,

494
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: thirty acres of land um and the back thirty um.

495
00:30:56,120 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: And he is got a little confrontation maybe or not confrontation,

496
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: but his neighbors have uh deer stands set up right

497
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: on the property line in an old ground blind set

498
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: up right on the property line. Even mentions that it's

499
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: potentially on their property just a little bit, but he's

500
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: not quite sure. And anyways, uh, and he's like, should

501
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: I confront these guys? Is that wrong? Am I being wrong?

502
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: Since they were there first? What should I do? We

503
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: grew up on our property in Wisconsin that is pretty

504
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:38,959
Speaker 1: good hunting. Um a lot of deer, especially during big

505
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: box um running all over the place. Anyways, our neighbors

506
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: definitely know that, and they set up right around the

507
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: outside of our property and there's not on our property.

508
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: But it definitely is kind of like, I don't know,

509
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: it's a little annoying, you know, because it's like if

510
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: that guy saw that big back walking on our property

511
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: line just inside, would that guy be able to hold

512
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: out and not shoot that deer. You know, it just

513
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: depends on the person. But there's really nothing you can

514
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: do there there If they're on their property, Um, you know,

515
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: they have every right to set that blind up. I

516
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: would recommend if you have that situation, we don't have

517
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: any any tree stands set up right on our property lines,

518
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: just to avoid that conflict. But you know, potentially so.

519
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: But help this guy out with this question. I know

520
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: that he doesn't He probably knows that he doesn't have

521
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: any authority to make them move, but he's trying to

522
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: figure out how should I feel about them? Sure? Yeah,

523
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: I mean that's like depends on what kind of people

524
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: they are, too, Like if he gets to knows his

525
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: neighbors and they're kind of shysty like if they could

526
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: shoot a dear, then I would feel a little worried.

527
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: And you know, I think you should go talk to him.

528
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: Does it like to say that he knows him? Well,

529
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: it's his neighbors. He he says, Should I confront them

530
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: about it? Should I suck it up and avoid it

531
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: or bring it up to them? And I think if

532
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: they're your neighbors, you might as well go over there

533
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: and have a chat with them, because you're living right

534
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,719
Speaker 1: next time, regardless, I would go over and be like, listen,

535
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: I see you have a stand close to the property line.

536
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: Does he have a stand closer there too, No, he's

537
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: It sounds like he's staying off the property lines. I

538
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: was gonna say, I'd go over there and be like, listen,

539
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: if you like, if we communicate a little bit, you

540
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: let me know when you're hunting that stand. I know

541
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: it's close to the property line. If you know, let

542
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: me know when you're hunting that, I'll haunt a different spot,

543
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: or vice versa. I'll tell you what I think. Maybe

544
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'd have to know a little more

545
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: about the neighbors. You could also go over there and

546
00:33:54,000 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: propose a solution. You could say, you know what, really,

547
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: I could put a stand up and we could sit

548
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: back to back. Right, you're looking into your place, me

549
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: looking at my place. No one really wants that. Would

550
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 1: you want to agree to a little gentleman's agreement that, uh,

551
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: we don't put stands within a hundred yards of that

552
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 1: Border'll honor that. Yeah, you want a little co op? Yeah, now,

553
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 1: I know. Here's I don't want to tell you. I

554
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 1: don't want to say where This is because I don't

555
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: want to embarrass anybody. But I know some folks with

556
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: the with the property in Texas low fence, this is

557
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: not a high fence property, and they have a very

558
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: tightly managed deer program on their property and they've had

559
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: a lot of problems with these neighbors. Have a parcel

560
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 1: that borders there's and they don't have a tightly managed

561
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: deer program, and that all their stands we're on the edge.

562
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: Because they knew that they had they were that they

563
00:34:55,040 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 1: had big box um, they Avenge Sleep made a They

564
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: eventually put a deer fence on one edge of their property,

565
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: had a buddy do the same thing, put it do

566
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 1: their fence just on one They got so tense between

567
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: them and the neighbors. And I know, and I know

568
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: from just from hearing from the people. I know his

569
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: perspective that they did share with the neighbors here like

570
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: here's what we're trying to accomplish here with like a

571
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: deer management program. Um, you know, let's try to work

572
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: together on it. Um. But they just felt they're being

573
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 1: a little bit taken advantage of and that was their solution.

574
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: M Interesting. I had a buddy and they have a

575
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: ranch over in the King's Ranch in Texas, and they

576
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: have the same issue that their neighbor on the bordering side.

577
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: It was putting up stands and um guiding hunts to

578
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: shoot the bucks coming off of the bow only ranch.

579
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: So they were real strict on their management, you know,

580
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: certain only certain hundred fifty plus inch deer being shot

581
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: with a bow. And that guy was putting a hunter,

582
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 1: a different hunter every day in that stand on the border.

583
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: And they did the same thing. They put up a

584
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: deer fence and cut them off with the just just

585
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: a high game fence on one side the border, just

586
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: to keep those deer from going to that dude that

587
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: guy at him just killing them all, Okay. Chadic at

588
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 1: number three, Jack at number three. This guy lives in

589
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: California's Sacramento Valley between two mountain ranges. He says, it's

590
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: let's just say it's not San Francisco. Bear hunting was

591
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 1: outlawed ten years ago with dogs. You can't run bears

592
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: with dogs out there anymore. Um. And this guy was

593
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: out bear hunting one day and he ran across a

594
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 1: couple of pickup trucks with some guys with dogs, and uh,

595
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: the guy said, they made it clear that they weren't hunting,

596
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: they weren't after bears with these dogs, But sounds like

597
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: they're probably clearly houndsmen training dogs, training dogs, which I

598
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: would have to do some research on this, Like I

599
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 1: don't know what the laws are for running dogs, you know,

600
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: for training purposes during bear season in California. It sounds

601
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: like there could be some illegal activity going on there.

602
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: I already, but I'm not a percent sure on that. Anyways,

603
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: these guys are, you know, let their hounds out, and

604
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 1: this other guys trying to bear hunt legally. Um, and

605
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,919
Speaker 1: you know, dog it's kind of obviously blowing his hunt

606
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: because the dogs are barking three ridges over. Um. He

607
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 1: just feels, you know, that it's not not right or

608
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: not ethical to be doing that during bear season. Um.

609
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: He says he hates to report people, but laws are lodged.

610
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: Laws are laws, and I don't by bus. Um. So

611
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: it sounds like this guy thought these guys were running bears,

612
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: is what what I gather from this, which obviously is illegal.

613
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: So I mean, I'd have to just research this one

614
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: more because I don't know, can you run do you

615
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: think you could run dogs? During bear season just for

616
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: training purposes. Uh. I don't know the answer to that. Yeah, Uh,

617
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: if it is that you can. It brings up this

618
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: question that we've had people right in about before. Remember

619
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: when Kevin Murphy got harassed by archery deer hunters for

620
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: hunting squirrels because they felt that their activity, they felt

621
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: that archery hunting deer, their archery hunting of deer, was

622
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 1: more important than his hunting of squirrels. He was actually

623
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: in Michigan, so he got harassed by bow hunters who

624
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: were mad that he had the audacity to be out

625
00:38:55,680 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: hunting squirrels during the white tail rut. Yeah, and he

626
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: thought that was some bullshit. Yeah. I mean, every everybody

627
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: has right right to do to use the landscape, like

628
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 1: if they're if they are filling the law. Do you

629
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: not go do certain things because other people are doing

630
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: certain things. I'll point out that, Um, just recently, when

631
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: I was home visiting my mom, I was taking the

632
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: kids out squirrel hunting, and I was aware and cognizant

633
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: of the fact that it was firearm deer and I

634
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: didn't wanna like go into places where a truck was

635
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: parked because some guy was hunting deer and I felt

636
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: like me coming through with all my kids hunting squirrels

637
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,439
Speaker 1: would have been a little I don't know, it felt

638
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: a little rude to me, So I would I kind

639
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 1: of like stuck to stuff real close to the road

640
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: and whatnot because I don't want to blow something. Dudes,

641
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: deer hunt. Was I allowed to do it? Sure? Yeah?

642
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: I think communication Like if these guys are legal and

643
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: able to run dogs during during bear season, I think, um,

644
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: communication would be huge there. So these bear these you know,

645
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 1: houndsmen aren't ruining this guy's bear hunt. Try and send

646
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: him another way, and the actual bear hunter had the

647
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: other way. But yeah, I gotta note a little more

648
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 1: about what's going on a couple more things on hound hunting,

649
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: because you know, the whole Vermont thing, right, Like we

650
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: covered that dude in Vermont. I think it's gonna come

651
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: on the show. I think we're working on the gold

652
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: Shaw farm dude. And he made a very good YouTube

653
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: video like a rebuttal. We came after him pretty hard.

654
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: He made a whole YouTube rebuttal. The guy's driving this

655
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: petition to end hound hunting or a change hound hunting.

656
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 1: Someone rolled into like a little bit of the story

657
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: that that I didn't know about, because there was this

658
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: very publicized case from two thousand eight teen in Vermont

659
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 1: about the tension between hound hunters and the non hunting public.

660
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: A there there this thing got a ton of attention

661
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: where a pack of hound hunters dogs apparently attacked this

662
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: couple of walking in the woods and attack their dog

663
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: pretty good, and it went out a long time. The

664
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,240
Speaker 1: people got bit, their dog got bit, and that caused

665
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 1: a lot of uh consternation about to what degree are

666
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: these hounds under control? Because these people it sounds like

667
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: I don't fully understand it. It sounds like this attack

668
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: on them and their dogs went on for like ninety minutes. Jeez.

669
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: In the end, the hound hunter walked away with five points.

670
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 1: I don't know how the point system works, walked away

671
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: with five points on his license and a couple hundred

672
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: bucks in the fine. And people are pointing out that

673
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: if you were in a county park, if you were

674
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: in a city park and your dog came up and

675
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: bit some people and attacked the dog for ninety minutes,

676
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: your dog be euthanized. But people felt that this dude

677
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: walked with a slap on the wrist and certainly did

678
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: not have his dogs under any kind of control for

679
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: them to be able to chase these people around for

680
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: ninety minutes. That is bizarre. Again, Man, two sides of

681
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 1: the story, I think. Man, I love hound hunting, absolutely

682
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,760
Speaker 1: love it. I want hounds of my own someday. Um,

683
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 1: there's always conflicts with hound hunters and the general public.

684
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: I just need to be like very responsible about it.

685
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: I think it would end a lot of problems. Here's

686
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: nothing to just happened in Vermont, kind of the rus

687
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: oude of the coin. You know, we always talk about

688
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: the right to hunt laws and whatever happens. Well, some

689
00:42:53,800 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 1: hound hunters we're out uh Groton State Forest. Okay, they're

690
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 1: they're tracking a black bear and the bear goes on

691
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: to private property. Okay. The hunters legally enter the woods

692
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: from Buzzy's Road it's called, and they retrieve their hounds.

693
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: So they're in there within law because they go to

694
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: get their dogs, but don't kill a bear out of

695
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: the tree. Leave the bear in the tree, get their hearts,

696
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: their dogs, get back to their truck, and there's two ladies.

697
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: They're letting all the air out of their tires. Then

698
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 1: one of these ladies releases a German shepherd hurt. Let's

699
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 1: hurt German shepherd out, which then gets into a fight

700
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 1: with the bear hunters hound and beats the hound dog

701
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: up bad enough where it needed veterinarian care. The women

702
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: got fined, found guilty in court. The bear hunters were

703
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 1: acting awfully. She was acting unlawfully. Sons, legit to me,

704
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: she's shotting that turned those dogs loose. That chap right,

705
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: you shouldn't let their other tires. Well, no, I mean,

706
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: if if the hunters were following the law, she had

707
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: no right to do what she did. I could see

708
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 1: when the courts. I mean, we're all sitting here and

709
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: probably we'll all agree she was wrong. I think so. Yeah.

710
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: I don't know about that state, but in some states

711
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: they the houndsman probably could have legally killed her dog.

712
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah. There's gotta be some kind of formal

713
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: animal cruelty to to make your dog attack somebody else's dog.

714
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I

715
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 1: have my property in Mississippi and where we did hunt.

716
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 1: We still hunt only but we have neighbors that hand hunt.

717
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: It's a constant problem. You guys get a lot of disputes.

718
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: I tried to avoid it, but the others around us

719
00:44:53,880 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: that it's gotten serious. Lord, really serious. Grant Uh. I

720
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: can be sitting at camp and at midnight you hear

721
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 1: a bunch of hounds chasing the deer on my property.

722
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 1: They'll run their dogs in the evening and the dogs

723
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: will run off, and the hunters don't retrieve their their hounds.

724
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: So the dogs are staying in the woods all their lawn,

725
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: chasing deer all around my property. It's it's a hard

726
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: thing to swallow when you know you're dedicated to still hunting.

727
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 1: You you're trying to manage your property for still hunting,

728
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: and you got and look at hounds. We see them

729
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: in the morning with their collars, they come to the

730
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: we feed them. You can tell some of them are starving.

731
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: They all have callers with the owners names on them. Um,

732
00:45:55,480 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: it's a constant, it doesn't stop. It's cons that if

733
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: I was a hound hunter, I'd take a two pronged approach. Man.

734
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: I would be fighting like like, fighting like hell to

735
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: protect my rights as a hound hunter. And I would

736
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: be fighting like hell to like to have a buttoned

737
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: up program and avoid conflict with other hunters. You know what,

738
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: you have to understand a dog. He doesn't know what

739
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 1: a fence line is. He can't read it, keep out saying,

740
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 1: I mean it's in his nachere to run. He'll cross

741
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: property lines. And and I can understand a dog running

742
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: five ten miles. It's hard for mental and foot to

743
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: keep up with a dog running through hilly territory. So

744
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: I can. I can deal with the occasional hound running

745
00:46:54,960 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: around my place at night, but it's constant. It doesn't

746
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 1: top there was a problem. What's the benefit of of

747
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: running hounds aside from actually like what what do they

748
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,720
Speaker 1: get out of it? Besides the exhilaration of actually owning

749
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: hounds and hearing that and chasing a lot of areas.

750
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 1: That's the only way to effectively hunt bears, beder hounds, lions.

751
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 1: I mean it's like a traditional youth practice, man. You go,

752
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: I mean people were, people were you know, like this

753
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: is a little known thing. You go back like Daniel Boone, Okay,

754
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: that's how they hunted bears. Yeah there there if you

755
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: go reader even up into the hundreds, like the Cherokee Choctaw.

756
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: I mean they hunted bears with dogs, going back it's

757
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 1: a traditional youth practice. And I'm asking the question to

758
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: somebody who has very little insight into hound hunting, like

759
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: this is all very new information. And so it's been

760
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: kind of really interesting to hear this conversation go on

761
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: because we used to hunt rabbits with beagles. Yeah, and

762
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: it's always like it's always you know, so you got

763
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: people to do one thing. I feel like I've told

764
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: the story hunter times. I'm not gonna tell it again.

765
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: People tend to think that what they've always done is

766
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: dead on balls, right, and that what everybody else does

767
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 1: is bad. So you've got guys that hunt birds with dogs,

768
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: and that's that's the kind of stuff you make paintings

769
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: about and hanging your house. But the guy that hunts

770
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: something else with the dog, that's the savage. You know.

771
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: It's like you shouldn't be able to trap because what

772
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 1: if something happens to the dog that I use to

773
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: kill stuff that I like to kill. Mhm. It's just

774
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: you know, people are there's a ton of tribalism. There's

775
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: a ton of tribalism. And before, like before I had

776
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 1: such a before I had the luxury of being around,

777
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: traveling around throughout the country so much and being exposed

778
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: to all the different hunting cultures that exists in the country,

779
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 1: I was guilty the same stuff. I was like, what

780
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 1: I do is very right. I you know, I we

781
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 1: hunt dear the right way and everyone else does it

782
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: the wrong way. It's just this very like provincial attitude.

783
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: I think it's got a lot to do it what

784
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: you were raised in too, sure to generations. You know,

785
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: the grandparents brought their kids. I'm runting a certain particular way.

786
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: The grandkids learned how to find out where, and it's

787
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: a mind said that this is the way to do it.

788
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: I think the only like when when weighing all these

789
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: things out, I have found and this is after this

790
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: is what where I've arrived after spending um many many

791
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: many days and hours like sort of like looking at

792
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: these controversies, um, I feel that there's two things that

793
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: there's like two sort of aspects of all the stuff

794
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: they need to be considered. I put an enormous amount

795
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: of weight on traditional youth practices, and I put a

796
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: lot of weight on resource allocation, meaning if you could

797
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: come and say that a certain activity like hound hunting

798
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 1: for bears is as conducted is detrimental to black bear

799
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:49,399
Speaker 1: populations in the long term, Like you're on an unsustainable path. Uh,

800
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: then that's a conversation that needs to be had. How

801
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: are you gonna how are you gonna rectify that? So

802
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: you have a traditional youth practice like hound hunting with bears,

803
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 1: it's something that people have always done. So we're gonna

804
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: honor that traditional use up to the point where someone

805
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: can look and say, you're on a bad path from sustainability.

806
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: And the way that's usually the way that's usually handled

807
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 1: is through resource allocations, like what what what part of

808
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 1: the pool of black bear tags are going to go

809
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 1: to that user group? Um? With the emerging technologies that

810
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:27,240
Speaker 1: have a different attitude about it, because emerging technologies haven't

811
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 1: haven't yet entered traditional use practice. So someone's gonna come

812
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 1: and make the case that, like like using thermal night

813
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 1: vision stuff, Um, what are the implications for game management?

814
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 1: I think that that's a much more fair question to

815
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 1: ask because it's an emerging technology without a culture built

816
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,919
Speaker 1: around it. It's not a traditional youth practice. Let's weigh

817
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 1: it on its merits as it emerges, rather than going

818
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: back and telling people that have been involved in some

819
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: activity for three hundred years that we've now decided that

820
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 1: what they've been doing for three years sustainably is no

821
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 1: good anymore. I agreed. You know. Let me just say

822
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: it's like one approach of many, but it's kind of

823
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: how I tend to look at the stuff. I want

824
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: to talk about this damn crayfish pond though, I want

825
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: to talk about it too, because you said it was yours. Okay,

826
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: layout like like uh layout for me? Um? How one

827
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 1: like the process of making a personal crawfish pond. I'm

828
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: gonna try to say crawfish out of difference bulldogs and

829
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: an escavena and five days I was pumping water into it.

830
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: So you dug that hole was a needy. What we

831
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: did We brought in an asked cavena and dug a

832
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: keys set about six ft down. What's that word? Um?

833
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: We dug about six ft down a bucket wide to

834
00:52:55,320 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: create to break the soil. Turn cut any avenues that

835
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 1: the water could see through, because here we have a

836
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 1: lot of the top of soil we have you have

837
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: you're you're running into a lot of veins of water

838
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 1: running just a few feet deep. So we gotta break that.

839
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: We have to cut that. So we cut a key

840
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:24,720
Speaker 1: way six eight feet deep, bucket wide. The dimensions of

841
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: the pond. You're gonna build the perimeter all in yards.

842
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: Tell people what the dimensions of this crawfish pond. It's

843
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:38,760
Speaker 1: too weir because it's five five ft long, a hundred

844
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: fifty foot wall. Um, so we build a key way.

845
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: You're just digging and you and you swinging the bucket

846
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 1: around and dumping it right back. You're dump in the

847
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 1: dirt right back into the key way. You just want

848
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 1: to break that if there's any channels that water is running,

849
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: because you're gonna lose water. Then a bulldozer comes in

850
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: removes about a foot of top soil where all the

851
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: grass is growing. You gotta get that out of the way.

852
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 1: Then you just keep pushing dirt to build your levees.

853
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: You can't have any grass. That's why you remove that

854
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 1: top soil. You can't put that grass in your level

855
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: because then the grass the cares and it will form

856
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 1: little channels that the water could start seeping through and

857
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 1: it will lead the way you leve it. So you

858
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: get rid of the grass and you start pushing dirt

859
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: with the bulldozer. Bill you leave it and crank cup

860
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 1: your pump and fill it. And uh, I built upon

861
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: and five days I filled it. Uh, wait in a

862
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: week and then I dumped the crawfish planting in it.

863
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,959
Speaker 1: One week after I filled it with water. But how'd

864
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: you get the rice going in there? Ah? Have to

865
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: wait the following spring. So you put crawfish in before

866
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 1: you start even growing right there? Yes, because I had

867
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 1: to get crawfish into the drill into the ground. That

868
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: was my crop for the Uh what we do? How

869
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 1: their life cycle works? And me, I drained my pond

870
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: in me and I forced a force him. I pulled

871
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:27,800
Speaker 1: the plug in twelve hours, drained all the water of

872
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 1: the pond. Well, the crawfish is instinct to survive is

873
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,879
Speaker 1: to drill into the ground. So when I when they

874
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:42,240
Speaker 1: feel that water dropping, they start drilling and they drill

875
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: all on the inside the lever. They're drilling into the ground.

876
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 1: And then I leaved upon dry all summer, cut the

877
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: grass around mid September, planting the rice seed. So the pond. Yeah,

878
00:55:56,280 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 1: I'm confused, now, why do you why do you need

879
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 1: the crawfish to drill into the ground, Because they're going

880
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: to the ground and they've they've been bread, they have

881
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 1: eggsam them. They're going to the ground and they span

882
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: two three months in the ground. Then when the females

883
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 1: come out, they're carrying babies under their tail. And when

884
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:26,280
Speaker 1: I'll filled the pond, they start coming out the field.

885
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: Let's let's build a timeline. So like Ronnie's he's raising

886
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 1: his hand, go ahead running. So so what the whole

887
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: point of the crawfish, point of the flooding and the

888
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: draining is to is to assimilate the river. So naturally occurring,

889
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 1: the river would flood in the spring and the crawfish

890
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,839
Speaker 1: would come out their holes, and then when the river

891
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 1: would go back low again, the crawfish would would drill.

892
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 1: So you got imitating their life cycle and sort of

893
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: life history is to deal with this flood, the flooding

894
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: and water, yeah, drying periods and and then we can

895
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: we can artificially control. So you're mimicking the natural cycle

896
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 1: of the flood. Soa what what month do you drain?

897
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: I drained upon in May in May, so they breed

898
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: prior to that. They're breeding all some I got crow

899
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 1: fits that are drilling right now. And the reason they're drilling,

900
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: it's because they came out of their holes two months ago,

901
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: released their babies, their bread, and it's tom to go

902
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 1: back in the ground to go through the life cycle

903
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 1: of having there's their bread in the all right, so

904
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: you drain in May. Yeah, they start to drill and

905
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: their bread already, they're they're drilled before I drink the pond.

906
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: All the pond is full of water, you'll see there.

907
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 1: So they're drilling prior to May. Yeah, you start seeing

908
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 1: chimneys all then you drained and it's all spring, and

909
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 1: like when do you start to fill the pond again.

910
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: September September, So all summer when they're just down in

911
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: the mud. They're down in the ground. Yeah, okay, And

912
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 1: then in that time period, that's when you plant your rice. Yeah,

913
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 1: well it's dry. Plant while my punds dry. I plant

914
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: my rice. When the rice gets about eight ten inches high,

915
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 1: I'll start flooding. But you said they breed all summer long.

916
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: So while I'm fishing, the crunfish breeding underground, underground, and

917
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 1: the ponds got in the water in it. Yeah, during

918
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 1: the summer and up up until they're not breeding. They're

919
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 1: not breeding in the hole and the hole they're actually

920
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 1: almost like hibernating. But how are they breeding all summer

921
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 1: if there's no water. There's water up until me. So more,

922
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 1: what do you call the summer march? I think, I think,

923
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 1: but I just had had a tongue tied. You may

924
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: say they breed when when there's water, and once you

925
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 1: drain the pond, they're gonna hibernate and they're gonna just

926
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: incubate those eggs and hibernate in the mud and the

927
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: ground with the babies. Once they fail, once the water

928
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: table comes back up, the crows say, oh it's time

929
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: to get out. They come out, and then they release

930
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: their eggs. So, yeah, they breed in the spring, and

931
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: then once the water table drops, they drill incubate those babies,

932
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 1: staying in their whole water comes back up, they come

933
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: out and they spill there In the dry time, the

934
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: rice gets gets planted. Yeah, September, it starts to grow

935
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 1: right September. You float again when it gets somebody, it

936
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: just high. I start flooding and I follow the rice

937
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 1: and then and then they come out release their eggs

938
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 1: correct and then that's when the life cycle. Then days

939
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: from the time they come out and they release their

940
00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 1: babies Uh, biologists, they're figured about naughty days for baby

941
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 1: crawfish to reach maturity to be able to harvest it.

942
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 1: And then all winter long they're in there feeding on

943
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 1: the rice. Well, the baby is actually feed on the

944
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 1: microorganisms that grow the algae that grow on the rice stalks,

945
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 1: and they will feed on that as long as possible.

946
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: When that food sources depleted, then they'll start eating vegetation

947
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 1: like rice and whatever the grass is growing in there.

948
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: Vegetation is not a crawfish's main diet. They they'll feed

949
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 1: on tiny organisms or whatever. If you pull one of

950
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 1: those rice stalks out, you'll see it's, uh, it's all

951
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 1: full of algae and that's what they're feeding on. This

952
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 1: dominy here and being in the ponds are so shallow.

953
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 1: If you, I mean you theoretically could keep it flooded longer,

954
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: but the water just gets so hot you'll start killing,

955
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 1: your started losing. But in a test one time we

956
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 1: ran in my pond, we had what kept the water

957
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 1: to what mid June? They June, And when Bud went

958
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 1: to pull the plug, he said that one is hot. Yeah,

959
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: listen at this timent of year. I don't I don't

960
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 1: even I don't hardly have a run my pump. You

961
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 1: gotta have a lot of oxygen. I'm tests oxygen levels.

962
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 1: Um the water is cool, sweat holes oxygen in the

963
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 1: spring when that water is gonna start warming up, I

964
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 1: gotta pump every day to keep my oxygen levels about

965
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 1: four or five. It's are you crawfits? You're gonna die?

966
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 1: Are You'll see them crawling out trying to slip. You're

967
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 1: go ahead night right off the dark and they'll be

968
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 1: all along the one is the edge crawling out. That'll

969
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 1: be bailing out to the to the to the water

970
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 1: source that you pump into the pond. Ure's things are

971
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 1: getting hard. There's a large drainage canal that runs in

972
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 1: the back of our property. We call it the forty

973
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 1: acre canal. And then uh, like bud in myself, we

974
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 1: we on our properties. You dig a large ditch going

975
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 1: all the way to the front, and then that's what

976
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 1: you used to get your water into your pond. Okay,

977
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 1: I got I got more questions, but too, I haven't

978
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 1: to do do with this whole drain cycle deal. Do you

979
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 1: have to drain it to plant rice? You can't plant,

980
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 1: so you can't sell rice in a in in eighteen

981
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 1: inches of water. No, but I have a friend across

982
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 1: the bay. And then how's a pond. He told me.

983
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 1: He throws his dry seed and three or four inches

984
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 1: of water. It wouldn't work an eighteen inches of water. Okay,

985
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 1: So there's that. And then let's say you never drained

986
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 1: your pond, but you kept it at a stable eighteen

987
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 1: inches year round, it go to hell, right, most likely

988
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 1: like the crayfish production would go to hell. Yeah, we

989
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 1: I used to. So the pond, one of the ponds

990
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 1: I had was a hundred acre one and it was

991
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 1: actually more of a swampy or style pond. It was

992
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 1: pond that was not well taken care of. It was

993
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: just left to be full and flooded. They did have

994
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 1: crawfish in it, but it was Yeah, it was not

995
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 1: nearly as productive as they say Bud's pond because the

996
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 1: fish getting it to it and once to fit the

997
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 1: small goggles and the batasas the perch, they the baby crawfish.

998
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 1: And in that case also we the bullfrogs took in

999
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 1: and the bullfrogs were eating out a crawfish. You could

1000
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 1: ask Bud in that pond that pond hadn't had no

1001
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 1: one had done any kind of anything to it in

1002
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 1: about five years when we took it over, and there

1003
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 1: were so many bullfrogs in there that we couldn't literally

1004
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 1: could not make crawfish. And when I say bullfrogs, I'm

1005
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 1: talking in plus no. The first time we decided to

1006
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 1: go frog in this pond, bud Bud got there first

1007
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 1: and he was texting me. He says, man, the frogs

1008
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 1: are so big at here, they're not gonna fit in

1009
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 1: the kiss of my truck. Seventy frogs. You couldn't catch them.

1010
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 1: You couldn't. You couldn't grab him. They couldn't wrap your

1011
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 1: hand around him to catch them. We don't have to

1012
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 1: whack them with a paddle. Yeah, you couldn't go and

1013
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,439
Speaker 1: grab one of those frogs. And the cool thing about

1014
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 1: frogs though, when you hit him with a paddle and

1015
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 1: knock them out, they have a mechanism that they inflate

1016
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 1: their their lungs or something some kind of they roll

1017
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 1: over and they just floating there. Just grab throw them

1018
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 1: over your shoulder. Watch this my pawn. I flood and

1019
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 1: chep mbo And I dreamed in me that chart amount

1020
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 1: of time when I dreamed that pawd. You would not

1021
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 1: believe the stuff that's that's living and growing in there.

1022
01:04:54,120 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 1: Fish I'm talking about brim big enough to eat, blue gill, eels, garfish.

1023
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 1: And I don't plant any of that in there, just

1024
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 1: finds its way in there. Yeah, it's always it's always

1025
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 1: exhilarating when you pick up a trap and they've got

1026
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 1: a big cone in there, which is which is what

1027
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 1: it's like a It's like a eel, but it's got

1028
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 1: little legs. It's it's like actually, let's say a giant

1029
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 1: salaman there about like lasagni sides like a hellbender. You

1030
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 1: know what the hell bender is? I'm not sure. So

1031
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 1: how does that stuff get in there? I have no

1032
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 1: idea that every year when I dreamed that pond, you

1033
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 1: would not be to leave what's in there? The fish

1034
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 1: I think coming through the pumps, like the bram and

1035
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 1: bull frogs. We catch them in the trap. Well you

1036
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 1: pick up the trips in there. Um, oh, go ahead,

1037
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 1: because you got I want you to explain the harvest

1038
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 1: process now, because you're talking about the trap. So it's

1039
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 1: a good segue into the harvest process. Well, we real sample,

1040
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 1: we harvest them and need him. No, but talking you

1041
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 1: just used you trap them out of the pond. Yeah,

1042
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 1: I got pyramid traps that we use. We use uh,

1043
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 1: artificial bait palets fabaite, because we we're not big on that.

1044
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 1: A lot of a lot of crawfish fishermen use fish

1045
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 1: um and hayden or pole is fabit. One of the

1046
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 1: reasons I built my pond. My wife wouldn't need crawfish

1047
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 1: that and you can smell it. You can tell crawfish

1048
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 1: that's there's been. Fish use fabait, and we didn't like that.

1049
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 1: So one of the reasons I built my pond. We

1050
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 1: use a pallet form fabaite. Crawfish are clean, Uh, your

1051
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 1: crawfish are bass. We enjoy more about that first month

1052
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 1: the meat this has a sweetness to it. Later on

1053
01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 1: when the water starts warming up, the flesh changes, Uh,

1054
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 1: it even tastes different. It the texture and as your

1055
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 1: crawfish get older. When the crowfish are really young, that's

1056
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 1: when they're the best. So a run the traps every

1057
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 1: every day, and my wife and I eat what we

1058
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 1: can and we give the rest away. That so you

1059
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 1: give them away all bagged up. You don't make your

1060
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 1: neighbors and friends come and pull their own traps, A

1061
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 1: lot of them, A lot some of them, like Ronni

1062
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 1: likes to bring his son. So I'll tell Ronni, yeah,

1063
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 1: y'all come, it's more of a stiff having an outing

1064
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 1: with friends. You know, jump in the board, let's go

1065
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 1: and we go run the traps, and whatever crowfish we

1066
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 1: pick up, I give it to them. It's like the

1067
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 1: kids to bring kids. Man, you wouldn't believe. I mean

1068
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 1: the kids, I'm having that pond and they I mean,

1069
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 1: you made their mutt, you know, you bringing two or

1070
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:06,920
Speaker 1: three up four or five year olds in there, and

1071
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 1: it's all new to them. And I mean to see

1072
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 1: the small on their faces. And there are is a

1073
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 1: little up watching picking up all the crawfish. That's my thing.

1074
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I love doing that. So can I play

1075
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 1: a little just a little bit of antagonists and kind

1076
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 1: of in this conversation? No, can I come on? You

1077
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 1: can say something bad having a crawfish pond. So what

1078
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 1: Bud does in this small in this small town community,

1079
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 1: and this is what we're at. This is a community

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01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 1: gathering place that allows people to get this wonderful resource

1081
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 1: of Louisiana. And I love that about this pond. But

1082
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 1: what I want to actually ask Bud about in the

1083
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 1: crew here is about commercial rice field fishermen out west

1084
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 1: who have hundreds and thousands of acres of crawfish ponds, right,

1085
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:57,599
Speaker 1: you know that for a fact, and they make they

1086
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 1: make a make a great living. In fact, Ronnie said

1087
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 1: the other day, is that maybe the main source of

1088
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 1: their income is off that commercial fishing and rice just

1089
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 1: pays the bills. Right. Then you take the old school

1090
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 1: fishermen and the chaff flai basin and the spillways that

1091
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 1: are that are fishing for crawfish wild chaff flay basin

1092
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 1: crawfish that yeah, that go through the natural life cycle

1093
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 1: of the swamp and its feet and has no pumps

1094
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:28,680
Speaker 1: going in and out of it. They're using bait and

1095
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 1: they're big ripe. Is that the rice field farm and

1096
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 1: crawf is just killing there, killing their business because the

1097
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,759
Speaker 1: majority of people buy from the rice fields now because

1098
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 1: of what a lot of what budg just said taste different,

1099
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 1: the cleanliness from the thing. Now, a lot of people

1100
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 1: will say, what's the difference between farm and duck and

1101
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:56,599
Speaker 1: wild duck. You get a different, cleaner, more mild, mellow

1102
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:59,640
Speaker 1: taste out of farm raised u than wild duck. And

1103
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:01,600
Speaker 1: then in the same sense stuff, so like, what do

1104
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 1: you make its own grave? He don't. Did you go

1105
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 1: walking in my pond? Yeah, it's hard, like it's hard

1106
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 1: the floor. So I guess, I guess. My whole thing

1107
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 1: is is that his his pond is a different beast

1108
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 1: because it's it's something that he does a hobby. It's

1109
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 1: not a commercial thing, doesn't make money. It's a confusion. Yeah,

1110
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 1: it's a difference between a garden yea and an industrialized

1111
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 1: farm landscape. And I'm not condemning that. I'm saying there's

1112
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 1: a big difference between a garden and an industrialized So

1113
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 1: you talk to these um basin crawfis the spillway crawfishermen

1114
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 1: who are wild by the wild crawfish guy, Yeah, you're

1115
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 1: good and wild crawfish guys, and they're saying, what about us,

1116
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 1: because these guys out west have thousands of acres of

1117
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 1: controlled farmland that they're pumping water in an out planting

1118
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:55,680
Speaker 1: natural seed and then n of Louisianans and all over

1119
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 1: the country. Now where you can get you can get

1120
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 1: crawfish express shipped to you and then to day or

1121
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 1: a cross or rice field crawfish and the spillway guys

1122
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 1: are like, oh shit, our commercial fisheries are going down

1123
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 1: the drain because no, we can't harvest near as much

1124
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 1: as the is the rice fields. Yeah, you know what

1125
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 1: it's all about this because you made you made the

1126
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 1: little money symbol where the rice fields start producing. Because

1127
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:26,599
Speaker 1: it's it's it's like it's gonna search for about a month.

1128
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 1: The price started dropping, and the price drops right now

1129
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,719
Speaker 1: every year. The crawfish started at about six dollars a pound.

1130
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 1: Here gonna break up in the spring. This is gonna

1131
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 1: drop to the dollar when the rice fields are gonna

1132
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 1: start putting it all. But they're putting out so much

1133
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 1: volume that they can sell it from the dollars they're

1134
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 1: still bringing in. And I think the chuff goes, the

1135
01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:01,719
Speaker 1: Chuffali goes killing themselves working trying to catch the wild

1136
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 1: ones and get and a lot of people. And you're

1137
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 1: gonna hear people say, no doubt is that there's a

1138
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 1: difference in flavor size consistency between and they're they're trains

1139
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 1: of thoughts. I say, wild crawfish now to buds point

1140
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 1: using that pellet, you're not using decaying fish matter and pokey.

1141
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:27,680
Speaker 1: That's gonna change the dynamic of what that crawfish tastes like.

1142
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:32,879
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't say it. It's like buying. Buying spillway

1143
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 1: crawfish is a bad thing, and they're gonna taste bad.

1144
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 1: You just have to do a little bit more work

1145
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 1: to purge them, to clean them, to make sure they're

1146
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 1: nice and rents so that they do taste good. Because

1147
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:46,599
Speaker 1: there is something about that wildness personally that does make

1148
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 1: that crawfish its own thing. I'm not gonna say more

1149
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 1: special less, it's a different They have a different flavor.

1150
01:12:56,200 --> 01:13:01,759
Speaker 1: Uniqueness personally come from I love fish from the chal

1151
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 1: It tastes different the crawfish in my pond. I personally

1152
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:08,680
Speaker 1: love spillway crawfish like I like. I like the change up,

1153
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 1: you know, because a lot of times you're gonna get

1154
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 1: your your rice pond crawfish first because you know the

1155
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 1: river hasn't done this thing yet. The spillway crawfish aren't

1156
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 1: aren't out there because your rice crawfish pond is gonna

1157
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 1: come out first. That's just six dollar pound crawfish that

1158
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 1: you're getting right now in the wintertime. You're not gonna

1159
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 1: get spillway crawfish in the wintertime. And I find that

1160
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 1: when the spillway kicks up, the spillway it's where the

1161
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 1: Mississippi comes or the chap when when when the river

1162
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:40,640
Speaker 1: comes up, there's some overflows over and far from it. Yeah,

1163
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 1: it floods the swamps swamp crawfish. Yeah. So when the

1164
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 1: spillway crawfish spillway, I think of the uh in the

1165
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 1: middle of a beaver dam. They make a spillway, you know,

1166
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 1: they believe they don't make it, They leave it there,

1167
01:13:56,400 --> 01:14:00,679
Speaker 1: they unbuilt on. So h So I find like, actually

1168
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 1: when the spillway crawfish kick in, that's actually actually does

1169
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:05,719
Speaker 1: bring the price down, which which it kind of sucks

1170
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 1: for the spillway guys because yeah, they don't get that

1171
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 1: six dollar pound crawfish to sell. They are selling at

1172
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 1: three dollars a pound when they when when the spillway

1173
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 1: comes in, that price is gonna dropped about three dollars

1174
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 1: because then the original dudes are kicking in there. They're

1175
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:24,160
Speaker 1: so much crawfish coming on farms, the rice farmers crawfish,

1176
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 1: and just it's more and more and the warmer it gets,

1177
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:30,719
Speaker 1: the more they catch. People search out spillway crawfish because

1178
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 1: they know they can always get rice field crawfish. They

1179
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 1: search out the spillway like the spillway crawfish. Here buzz

1180
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 1: kill man. Listen if jump Paul, if he buzz killed

1181
01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:46,680
Speaker 1: me yesterday and he buzz killed me with the same thing.

1182
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to drop a list, like you know,

1183
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 1: it's great knowledge. My favorite thing on the plane right

1184
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 1: now is boot in. Ronnie turns me on to like

1185
01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 1: gas station boot in where he going to the gas

1186
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 1: station and get boot and wrapped up boot and is

1187
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 1: like a rice. Here we go. This is all information.

1188
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 1: This is all next level cultural information people need. Give

1189
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:19,720
Speaker 1: me an unbiased what boot and is boodas rice sausage

1190
01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 1: traditionally made with pork rice and pork livers. Period, Ronnie.

1191
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:28,599
Speaker 1: These guys are always walking around in the morning. When

1192
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:30,719
Speaker 1: I met Ronnie last summer, we're down here spear fishing,

1193
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:32,760
Speaker 1: and everyone's walking around in the morning where you might

1194
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 1: be eating the breakfast burrito or or a bacon sausage

1195
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 1: and egg thing you staid you walk around the sausage

1196
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 1: tinfoil like a of soft sausage wrapped in tinfoil made

1197
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 1: out of like meat and rice, and that's what you

1198
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 1: eat in the morning. Did you put some hot sauce

1199
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 1: on it? And I'm gonna rig up a thing when

1200
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 1: I moved down here and start my restaurant called I'm

1201
01:15:56,439 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 1: gonna start a restaurant called the Real Cajun, and I'm

1202
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 1: gonna have a thing that sits. I was explaining this yesterday.

1203
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:06,759
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a reservoir of hot sauce that bolts

1204
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 1: to the top of the truck with a drip line

1205
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 1: that comes down and it hangs right by your steering wheel,

1206
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 1: and it's got a little squeeze bowlb on it, like

1207
01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 1: the thing you use the prime gas in your boat.

1208
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 1: And as you're eating your boot and driving around, you

1209
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 1: can just because you only need each drop. You only

1210
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:29,599
Speaker 1: get a bite because it's so you gotta, like, see,

1211
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:31,639
Speaker 1: you can't season the whole damn thing. You gotta season

1212
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 1: each bite. So with that hose coming down full of

1213
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 1: hot sauce, take a bite with that reservoir and then

1214
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:45,679
Speaker 1: you just set for life a syringe with the long

1215
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 1: needle and you jam it in long ways, oh, and

1216
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:50,639
Speaker 1: fill it up and squeeze it. As you're pulling out

1217
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 1: everybody from right now. Then they tried everybody from what

1218
01:16:57,479 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 1: the hell are these guys doing putting hot sauce on boot?

1219
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:08,360
Speaker 1: If you don't do it, they had some good that

1220
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:11,839
Speaker 1: that's where the story gets good. So Ronnie last Summer

1221
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:13,800
Speaker 1: turns me out and he's like, go, what's that town?

1222
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:16,719
Speaker 1: Golden Meadow? Go to Golden Meadow, Go to tea Pops.

1223
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 1: When you walk in Teapops, they sell like basically three

1224
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 1: things gas, red Bull, and so we're going there and

1225
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:30,439
Speaker 1: they got two kinds. They got pork crawfish. Now we

1226
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:34,600
Speaker 1: see me and Seth patronized the last summer, ate the

1227
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:37,439
Speaker 1: dickens out of it, and this trip all I've been tom,

1228
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 1: I was wanting to go back to that damn place

1229
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:41,760
Speaker 1: and get more of the Boodhan. So we're going to

1230
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 1: get the boot, and we got there ahead of Gan Paul.

1231
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:47,840
Speaker 1: We go in, get some eat that, go back in

1232
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 1: to get more. Some guy comes to get another bottle

1233
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 1: of hot sauce. Some guy comes in waware in her

1234
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:56,520
Speaker 1: second run and walks in there and goes, y'all seriously

1235
01:17:56,560 --> 01:18:00,679
Speaker 1: out of red Bull right now. That's want to talk

1236
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:02,599
Speaker 1: to you. A couple of days are going to your

1237
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 1: torment we had teep offs right now, that's where y'all are.

1238
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:12,720
Speaker 1: So then so yesterday we go in buy it. We

1239
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 1: buy the boot, and Lauren had a bottle of hot

1240
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 1: sauce with him. Ate that one. I don't know what

1241
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:22,639
Speaker 1: happened to his bottle of hot sauce. Chester went back

1242
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 1: in to get more and to get a new bottle

1243
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 1: of hot sauce. Jean Paul pulls up. He goes in

1244
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 1: and he's like going in there and he's shooting the

1245
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 1: ship with the people in there. And he comes out

1246
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 1: and says, I don't mean to be the antagonist like

1247
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:39,599
Speaker 1: we just heard him say a second ago. And he said,

1248
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 1: that's not boot. Is in my turn to comment here

1249
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 1: to take it away. You can defend yourself. I don't know.

1250
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:54,599
Speaker 1: I don't need to defend myself. I'm eating Buddha all

1251
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:56,519
Speaker 1: over this state. I make it a point to go

1252
01:18:56,600 --> 01:19:00,720
Speaker 1: to eat bud and real quick. He pointed out that

1253
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 1: he said, and I bought two of them too, and

1254
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 1: I ate two of them too, and I it is

1255
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:11,720
Speaker 1: delicious that boot and Quota air quotes is delicious. But

1256
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:14,760
Speaker 1: even the people working there would say, it's more like

1257
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:17,120
Speaker 1: they actually told me this The people there when you

1258
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 1: derogated them. I was at because I want to know

1259
01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:21,439
Speaker 1: where it was from, which is from Texas, which explains

1260
01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, it's from Texas. And they said it's

1261
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 1: more like a rice dressing than a traditional boudant, and

1262
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:33,720
Speaker 1: I said, oh, it's all putting. Now. It is a

1263
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:38,200
Speaker 1: delicious link of sausage, because that's what it is. I

1264
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 1: mean boot as a sausage if you put the hot

1265
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:44,599
Speaker 1: sauce on there, especially so I have never ever seen

1266
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:47,479
Speaker 1: anybody put hot sauce on Buda. So a bunch of

1267
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 1: Yankees sending a rent old suburban with a bottle of

1268
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 1: hot the real Cajun over here with his reservoir idea,

1269
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,559
Speaker 1: and I will promise you that the any Louisiana and

1270
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 1: that's listened to this podcast right now saying them some

1271
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:11,679
Speaker 1: bitches there's never been out west, um and out south

1272
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 1: west southwest Louisiana, and um, you know, there's all kinds

1273
01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 1: of different side. So I like, look, I like tpops

1274
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:21,880
Speaker 1: Buddha and I'll call the Buddha because that's what they

1275
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 1: call it. And I'm just I'm just personally saying for

1276
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:28,479
Speaker 1: the fact, literally a thousands of different brands and types

1277
01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 1: of Buddha and that I've eaten that is the most

1278
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 1: unlike a Buddha that I've ever had. It is because

1279
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:37,519
Speaker 1: it doesn't when I go home and say, when I

1280
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:41,160
Speaker 1: go home and tell people that I've developed a real

1281
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 1: love for rice dressing done, that doesn't sound like anything,

1282
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:50,559
Speaker 1: doesn't really pop off that I'm not like a real

1283
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:55,240
Speaker 1: boot and man and you are. That's not stopping you

1284
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 1: say so if it doesn't have livers, not Buddha. But

1285
01:20:57,439 --> 01:20:59,639
Speaker 1: what about crawfish Buddha? Is it that not Buddha? Either?

1286
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:04,639
Speaker 1: I don't like crawford bud or I don't like any

1287
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:06,640
Speaker 1: of that. I mean, I like it, but it's like,

1288
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 1: but is it not Buddha? Now at some point is not? Okay?

1289
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 1: Let me ask you. They make they make cauliflower bud.

1290
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 1: They replace the rice with cauliflowers that bud. No, why

1291
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:20,800
Speaker 1: isn't that bood? I guess I call it because he

1292
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 1: doesn't have rice in it? All look like a vegan.

1293
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:28,240
Speaker 1: Well they still they still put pork in it. They're

1294
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:33,760
Speaker 1: doing it because they don't want It's not a vegetarian thing.

1295
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:35,840
Speaker 1: It's a keto thing, now you know what I mean

1296
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 1: couliflower in there, cauliflower rice. So I think, so there's

1297
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:47,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back home. This is your boot here,

1298
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:49,960
Speaker 1: this is y'allays, this is yallas bud And I'm sure

1299
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 1: you could win across the street and it maybe have

1300
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 1: been the more traditional liver Buddha. But I mean to me,

1301
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:59,919
Speaker 1: in my in my opinion of Buddha is so me, sausage, sausages,

1302
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:06,040
Speaker 1: just no no cauliflower, no, no rice, just meet in

1303
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:12,160
Speaker 1: intestine like encasing, yeah, boot and then and then to me,

1304
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:16,719
Speaker 1: budd is just meet and rice. If there's rice in encasing,

1305
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 1: that's boodh. In my open rice is what makes rice

1306
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:26,400
Speaker 1: rice are If you want to use cauliflower, it makes

1307
01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:28,600
Speaker 1: the boodant. To me, what makes it boot and too me,

1308
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I'm ready to move on. I know

1309
01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:33,720
Speaker 1: I can go to Tea Pops and get that their

1310
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:37,800
Speaker 1: boodan and sleep easy calling it boodan. I'm gonna have

1311
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:40,000
Speaker 1: a very hard time going home and saying that I

1312
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:44,200
Speaker 1: was eating. But this, this is what I'm gonna do.

1313
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:50,439
Speaker 1: Three being deceived. Yeah, all three of y'all, y'all gonna

1314
01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:56,120
Speaker 1: send me and I'm gonna send you three different boodants

1315
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 1: from three different places in three different distinct sections of

1316
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:01,760
Speaker 1: southwest Louisian Anna, and I don't want to hear if

1317
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 1: it's better or worse. I just want you to try it.

1318
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 1: You don't have to give me feedback. I like teapops better,

1319
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 1: I like this better. I don't care about that. What

1320
01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 1: you like is what you like. I don't give it.

1321
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 1: I don't even damn you know like. But I'm just saying, listen, man,

1322
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:19,639
Speaker 1: I'm interested. I'm only I'm hacking on. But I'm Steve

1323
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:24,680
Speaker 1: very interested in knowing. I'm very interested in all this.

1324
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:31,640
Speaker 1: But from an outsider perspective. Okay, you go down to

1325
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:33,680
Speaker 1: you know, this whole thing like you because you're you're

1326
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 1: you're pretty familiar with like all the cuisines in the country, right,

1327
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 1: I am. They do all the same garbage about chili

1328
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 1: in the southwest now southwest southwestern US. This whole like

1329
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 1: outrage if it's got this in it, outrage if it's

1330
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:52,560
Speaker 1: got that in it. Right, So, when you live in

1331
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:57,679
Speaker 1: an area, you get you get like invested in that stuff,

1332
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:02,439
Speaker 1: but you're not. It seems a little it starts to

1333
01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 1: feel a little academic like I would be like my

1334
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 1: mom used to make chili and she put kiddy beans

1335
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 1: in it. And then some guy wherever the hell what

1336
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 1: part of the country do you then go like, if

1337
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 1: it's got beans in it, it's not Well, you just

1338
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 1: said it about hunting. It's where you grow up. And

1339
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:19,880
Speaker 1: some people think because where you grew up, you think

1340
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:23,200
Speaker 1: this is the right way, right. But as you grow

1341
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:27,560
Speaker 1: out and expand your world of hunting or Buddha or

1342
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 1: of any other thing, it becomes to evolve and say,

1343
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:34,320
Speaker 1: oh wait, my way is not only the right way.

1344
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:37,599
Speaker 1: There's other right ways and nobody is right or wrong.

1345
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 1: In this conversation was brought over to Venice with us

1346
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:50,080
Speaker 1: rabbit os. That was great. See what in my favorite?

1347
01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 1: I think there's better boots, but it's not my favorite.

1348
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:56,599
Speaker 1: I want to move on from boot as I want

1349
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 1: to get into cooking the crawfish, because we left the

1350
01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:00,559
Speaker 1: cooking and I want you to tackle cooking John Paul,

1351
01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 1: But just just out of fairness, I'm endorsing tea Pops.

1352
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:10,680
Speaker 1: What would you like to endorse if you if if

1353
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:13,920
Speaker 1: you want, let's say, let's say a listener out there

1354
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:17,639
Speaker 1: wants to experience sort of like what you would regard

1355
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:24,320
Speaker 1: as sort of like the baseline definition of boodan, you

1356
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 1: would suggest that they buy some from who. If you

1357
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:33,440
Speaker 1: are traveling I TN West and you're going through uh Scott, Louisiana,

1358
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 1: are anywhere in those parishes out west on I TN

1359
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:44,360
Speaker 1: stop at Billy's are stopped at? No buddy knew what

1360
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:48,640
Speaker 1: he was going to stand. Best Stop is great, but

1361
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 1: there are literally on a cooking program on TV. Best

1362
01:25:56,760 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 1: there's literally hundreds of places. I tend you get west

1363
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 1: of laughing that way you can pick up bootan and

1364
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 1: every gas station and every little meat shop, and so

1365
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 1: Billie's is one of my favorites. Best Stop is different,

1366
01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:12,559
Speaker 1: but also good Dons is good, Rabbit is good, New

1367
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:15,479
Speaker 1: news is good, long as is good g and M

1368
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 1: meat market. It goes on and on and on um.

1369
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:21,960
Speaker 1: But I would say this, I love your Teapops endorsement.

1370
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:23,680
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why, because if you were coming to

1371
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:26,360
Speaker 1: southeast Louisiana and you're traveling down by La Fush and

1372
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:28,840
Speaker 1: you're going fishing and poor fouch on a grand ol

1373
01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:33,360
Speaker 1: stop at Teapops at that shell station, stress get you

1374
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:38,000
Speaker 1: some boot like, because this is bootan here. I wish

1375
01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:39,479
Speaker 1: I was knowing on a tea with that right now,

1376
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:44,479
Speaker 1: it sounds so good, sounds good, so good. Right in

1377
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:47,840
Speaker 1: the bottom right they got a chest like a thing

1378
01:26:48,120 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 1: door opens from the outside. You serve yourself. Bottom right corner, Yep,

1379
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 1: the top stupid stuff. Bottom left is bottom left is

1380
01:26:57,479 --> 01:27:00,599
Speaker 1: crayfish boot and which is good? Bot him writes sport

1381
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:04,720
Speaker 1: bood You tried the crayfish one? Yeah, that's that one's main,

1382
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 1: Homer asked, crosses boodans main Homa the port Boudins madeen

1383
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 1: in Texas. Layout for me? Now, how to do a

1384
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 1: crawfish boil? As we ate last night? That's the one

1385
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 1: I'm interested in because that was the best I've ever had.

1386
01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying there's not eighty ways of doing it,

1387
01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:32,559
Speaker 1: but I'm talking about, like last night, you did one. Yeah,

1388
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:34,720
Speaker 1: So I took a little bit of how I grew

1389
01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 1: up doing it and a little bit how how Bud

1390
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:39,920
Speaker 1: how Bud, and I spent fifteen minutes talking about doing

1391
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 1: it outside the craw fish ponds yesterday. And so what

1392
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:46,920
Speaker 1: I did is I basically filled up my pot with

1393
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:52,679
Speaker 1: water and made a vegetable stock with a lot of onions, salary, garlic,

1394
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:56,719
Speaker 1: mushrooms and a lot of citrus and oranges, like twenty

1395
01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:59,559
Speaker 1: four lemons cut in half, and like ten oranges cutting

1396
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:00,920
Speaker 1: half school ease in my hand and put them in

1397
01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 1: the thing. Rolled that to a boil, and um, I

1398
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:07,160
Speaker 1: added just a little bit of seasoning dry seasoning in

1399
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:10,400
Speaker 1: the in the water and some liquid. Craball brand. What's

1400
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 1: your what's your preferred brand? Man, there's a there's a

1401
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:16,799
Speaker 1: couple of different ones that are really good. Um Loco

1402
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:20,960
Speaker 1: makes a good um crab boil Chack bass season it

1403
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:23,320
Speaker 1: makes a good crab ball. Slappy Mom makes a good one.

1404
01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:25,439
Speaker 1: Zataran's is what I grew up with and is what

1405
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:29,000
Speaker 1: we used last night, because that's what we had. And Um,

1406
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 1: I used a little bit of the powder, a little

1407
01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 1: bit of the liquid, and I started rolling that to

1408
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:36,519
Speaker 1: a boil, adding my potatoes and sausage. And I like

1409
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 1: to get my potatoes about three quarters the way there

1410
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 1: before I add my crawfish. And what was that sat there?

1411
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:46,600
Speaker 1: That was smoked richards smoke sausage, and um, then my

1412
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:50,080
Speaker 1: crawfish go in. Now like these are early in the season.

1413
01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:52,559
Speaker 1: The crawfish hadn't gotten to their full maturity, so they're

1414
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:54,439
Speaker 1: on the smaller side, so you got to boil them

1415
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 1: for a little less time we did. Once you drunk

1416
01:28:57,120 --> 01:29:00,160
Speaker 1: dump your crawfish in, it knocks that water down too,

1417
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 1: you know, down the heating down down below the boil. Yeah,

1418
01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:09,880
Speaker 1: and that and that pot will And that's why you

1419
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:13,760
Speaker 1: gotta have it that high, that high burning you know,

1420
01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:18,479
Speaker 1: propane burner to really keep that that recovery short, because

1421
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 1: once that crawfish goes in, it lowers the temperature. It's

1422
01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 1: got to come back up to a boil. Like I said,

1423
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 1: we balled for three minutes. After that three minutes, I

1424
01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:29,439
Speaker 1: dump a little small bowl of ice in it and

1425
01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:32,320
Speaker 1: I just let it soak for I was soaked for

1426
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:34,559
Speaker 1: thirty minutes. And that's where this is like the part

1427
01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:37,559
Speaker 1: that this is the part that gets controversial. Yeah, well

1428
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:40,760
Speaker 1: the soak is a little controversial. And also what I

1429
01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:42,840
Speaker 1: did once I put it in the cooler, I took

1430
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:44,680
Speaker 1: a and this is kind of where a bud came

1431
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:47,400
Speaker 1: in because I wanted Sometimes those crawfish seasons can be

1432
01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:51,200
Speaker 1: overly salty. A lot of times they can um so

1433
01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:55,479
Speaker 1: I'll use less powdered seasoning, more liquid boiled than I

1434
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:58,360
Speaker 1: usually use because liquid doesn't have any salt. Then once

1435
01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:02,000
Speaker 1: the crawfish went into the cooler or ice chest, I

1436
01:30:02,240 --> 01:30:05,320
Speaker 1: sprinkled them with extra salt and a little bit of

1437
01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:08,200
Speaker 1: extra powdered crawfish seasoning, and Lennon let them sit and

1438
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:10,479
Speaker 1: steam and kind of do their own thing. It's not

1439
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:13,280
Speaker 1: enough to get all over your hands like a lot

1440
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:16,600
Speaker 1: of places do in West Louisiana, you know, But but

1441
01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:20,920
Speaker 1: it it lets that crawfish really speak for itself without

1442
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:23,679
Speaker 1: overpowering it with a whole bunch of seasoning and spice.

1443
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:29,439
Speaker 1: And when we talked about that, yester uh, for people

1444
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:34,280
Speaker 1: that love the flavor of crawfish, I just never understood

1445
01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:39,600
Speaker 1: why so much seasoning that it masque the flavor of

1446
01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:43,400
Speaker 1: your crawfish. If you know, I can't see myself heeding

1447
01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:49,240
Speaker 1: crawfish in my eyes are crowing because it's just yeah,

1448
01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:54,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you understand what I'm saying. And maybe it's that,

1449
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:57,240
Speaker 1: maybe maybe we got used to adding so much seasoning

1450
01:30:57,320 --> 01:31:00,360
Speaker 1: because at some point we were used to maybe spillway

1451
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:03,280
Speaker 1: crawfish a lot of fishiness on it where people didn't

1452
01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:05,920
Speaker 1: purge it really good. Because that's when you get in

1453
01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:07,680
Speaker 1: those wild crow fish. You have to purge, and so

1454
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:11,200
Speaker 1: maybe purge wild crawfish because we used to pull the

1455
01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:15,519
Speaker 1: mud veins on them, so you don't find saltwater kills them.

1456
01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:17,960
Speaker 1: I like to just so this is my my purging method.

1457
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:20,760
Speaker 1: I take ice chest or or a big bucket and

1458
01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:23,400
Speaker 1: I'll put them in a champaine or a basket. Put

1459
01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:24,920
Speaker 1: the crawfish in a basket in the water, and I

1460
01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:27,520
Speaker 1: put a hose pipe in there running and just circulate

1461
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:31,080
Speaker 1: that water until that water becomes clear. How many how

1462
01:31:31,120 --> 01:31:34,880
Speaker 1: many hours? That take? Minutes? I mean with rice with

1463
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:37,639
Speaker 1: those crawfish doesn't take and it takes I mean probably

1464
01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:39,439
Speaker 1: one or two fill ups and it it's it makes

1465
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 1: like I'll fill it up the first time, letter over

1466
01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:43,880
Speaker 1: for a little bit, pull the crawfish out, dump the water,

1467
01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:46,639
Speaker 1: and that water is gonna be dirty, dump it, put

1468
01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:48,519
Speaker 1: them back in, fill it back up. At that point

1469
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:50,600
Speaker 1: water is gonna be a little bit clear, starting to

1470
01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:53,840
Speaker 1: get clear. And then one more time and that water

1471
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:56,320
Speaker 1: is crystal clear you can drink it. It's at that

1472
01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:58,200
Speaker 1: point that's when I feel my crawfish are ready to

1473
01:31:58,240 --> 01:31:59,920
Speaker 1: go in the pot. And that's for the wild crow

1474
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:03,040
Speaker 1: of fish, rice rice praw fish too, don't get me wrong,

1475
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:07,280
Speaker 1: I've gotten fishy rice pinn crawfish because it's not a spillway.

1476
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:10,160
Speaker 1: Crawfish aren't fishing because they're in a spillway. They're fishy

1477
01:32:10,160 --> 01:32:13,000
Speaker 1: because they're using fish for bait. I mean, ways, I

1478
01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:14,920
Speaker 1: don't spell away guys. They use pellets for bait, and

1479
01:32:16,040 --> 01:32:18,120
Speaker 1: there's no fishing as to them. I mean, that's more

1480
01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:20,280
Speaker 1: about what you're using for bait. A lot of people

1481
01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:22,679
Speaker 1: use fish early in the year because those those pellets

1482
01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:25,240
Speaker 1: take in the cold water take a lot longer to dissolve.

1483
01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:29,120
Speaker 1: So fish brings those crawfish in fast, like come Good Friday.

1484
01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:32,160
Speaker 1: When I used to sell crawfish, I would use I'd

1485
01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:35,720
Speaker 1: use fish or or beef malk with the pellet. To

1486
01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:38,200
Speaker 1: get that fast, I could run my traps twice a day.

1487
01:32:38,280 --> 01:32:41,679
Speaker 1: Verse you sell a lot of a lot of crawfish

1488
01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:45,439
Speaker 1: on Good Friday. Good Friday is the like the pinnacle

1489
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:51,519
Speaker 1: of crawfish. Everybody everyone around here is Catholic, or for

1490
01:32:51,600 --> 01:32:54,559
Speaker 1: most part are Catholic. It's very, very predominant religion around here.

1491
01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:58,960
Speaker 1: So the thing is you don't eat metal. It's kind

1492
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:00,880
Speaker 1: of like it because on part of a tradition to

1493
01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:03,439
Speaker 1: have be that death and then like like Good Friday

1494
01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:05,479
Speaker 1: is like the day that everybody gets together with their

1495
01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:08,960
Speaker 1: families and boils seafood and eats seafood, and and at

1496
01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:10,760
Speaker 1: that time of year, a crawfish are in the height

1497
01:33:10,880 --> 01:33:13,479
Speaker 1: of their season. Like that is like the the pinnacle

1498
01:33:13,479 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 1: of crawfish season. They're not they're still that they're not

1499
01:33:16,360 --> 01:33:19,479
Speaker 1: fully mature where they're red hard and hard to eat

1500
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:22,439
Speaker 1: and you know, but they're not that little baby crawfish.

1501
01:33:22,439 --> 01:33:24,240
Speaker 1: They're just right perfect in the middle is just that

1502
01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:27,679
Speaker 1: perfect crawfish. That's and you've got spillway, you got rice

1503
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:31,920
Speaker 1: and look spillway crawfish. I've seen dirty rice pine crawfish.

1504
01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:34,800
Speaker 1: I've seen clean spillway crawfish. Spillway crawfish tend to be

1505
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:36,880
Speaker 1: a little more muddy or sometimes just because they've they've

1506
01:33:36,920 --> 01:33:39,000
Speaker 1: been in that swampy mud, so you may have to

1507
01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:41,120
Speaker 1: give them one additional rents down. But I like the

1508
01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:43,760
Speaker 1: perjursa built crawfish more for what it's what they're eating,

1509
01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:46,120
Speaker 1: because the crawfish has been eating fish. When you go

1510
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:49,320
Speaker 1: to suck the head fat out, you get that yeah,

1511
01:33:49,439 --> 01:33:55,080
Speaker 1: got that fishy, you'll smell it. Kick uh Jehan Paul

1512
01:33:55,160 --> 01:34:00,080
Speaker 1: quick hit the the soak. What's happening during this so

1513
01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:05,080
Speaker 1: the soak, it's the crawfish are gonna float when they boil,

1514
01:34:05,160 --> 01:34:07,280
Speaker 1: when they're done, they they're they're gonna be sitting at

1515
01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:09,080
Speaker 1: the top of the water. And the soak is when

1516
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:11,400
Speaker 1: you add that ice and let them sit, they start

1517
01:34:11,479 --> 01:34:14,880
Speaker 1: to absorb all that liquid and become you know, they're

1518
01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:17,400
Speaker 1: not boiling anymore. That water goes into the head cavity,

1519
01:34:17,439 --> 01:34:20,559
Speaker 1: into the tail cavity and they sink um and how

1520
01:34:20,640 --> 01:34:24,600
Speaker 1: to hit like an equilibrium with and I like, I

1521
01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:27,200
Speaker 1: like juicy crawfish. When I suck the head, I want

1522
01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:29,400
Speaker 1: to get all that interior fat and the juice from

1523
01:34:29,400 --> 01:34:32,040
Speaker 1: the broth. Which makes purging the crawfish that much more

1524
01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:35,280
Speaker 1: important because they're sitting in all the water they've been

1525
01:34:35,320 --> 01:34:38,080
Speaker 1: boiled in for thirty minutes, just soaking all that in.

1526
01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:40,519
Speaker 1: So if you don't purge it, you're gonna be soaking

1527
01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:46,400
Speaker 1: in dirty, nasty, seasoned and salty water but not clean. Fine,

1528
01:34:46,439 --> 01:34:48,560
Speaker 1: you get a grittiness to them too, like if you

1529
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:50,640
Speaker 1: don't like, if you don't purge them, sometimes that'll be

1530
01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:55,000
Speaker 1: will be the soak will make them juicier will also

1531
01:34:55,160 --> 01:34:59,160
Speaker 1: make them more seasoned because they're taking in that liquid,

1532
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:02,640
Speaker 1: you know, from that silk. Another thing too, with the

1533
01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:04,519
Speaker 1: with the shock. I find the shock helps with the

1534
01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:06,519
Speaker 1: peeling and when you hit them with that, it makes

1535
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:09,479
Speaker 1: that that that the tail meat separate from the shell.

1536
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:12,280
Speaker 1: Got it. And the soak, I think soak does the

1537
01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:15,559
Speaker 1: same thing as well. To put salt in the water

1538
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:18,080
Speaker 1: that you're baled him in, I put a little bit.

1539
01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:21,360
Speaker 1: You see, I don't put salt at all, because I

1540
01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:23,360
Speaker 1: find if I had salt at the water, they don't

1541
01:35:23,400 --> 01:35:26,360
Speaker 1: peel as good. I just put a little bit of

1542
01:35:26,439 --> 01:35:30,960
Speaker 1: the the powdered boil, not any And I'll ball crow

1543
01:35:31,080 --> 01:35:36,280
Speaker 1: fish three minutes and you don't do a soak. Yeah,

1544
01:35:36,720 --> 01:35:40,519
Speaker 1: but fun about turn a seconds to man it and

1545
01:35:40,640 --> 01:35:44,400
Speaker 1: I take I just take all the basket. Wait about

1546
01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:49,240
Speaker 1: a minute, just that slide cool down. I'll take that

1547
01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:52,200
Speaker 1: basket and put it back in the same pot. And

1548
01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:55,840
Speaker 1: they all sank that every one of them will sink

1549
01:35:57,040 --> 01:35:59,200
Speaker 1: when they do that. It's because they're sucked up. They

1550
01:35:59,280 --> 01:36:03,120
Speaker 1: got it, was shocked, and they suck up the seasonings

1551
01:36:03,200 --> 01:36:05,800
Speaker 1: that are in your water. I'll leave them in about

1552
01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:09,560
Speaker 1: that second deep turn the seconds a minute and I

1553
01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:12,280
Speaker 1: pull them out and that see it, And we don't.

1554
01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:20,479
Speaker 1: We cook a lot with crawfish meat, so we don't

1555
01:36:20,680 --> 01:36:25,519
Speaker 1: over salty or overseason them. Because when I make an example,

1556
01:36:26,360 --> 01:36:31,840
Speaker 1: my wife makes a crawfish freakacy m hm uh. I

1557
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:34,519
Speaker 1: don't want to sit there and need and it it

1558
01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:37,519
Speaker 1: tastes like I'm eating saut of ran scrab ball. I

1559
01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:39,840
Speaker 1: want to I want to point. I want to eat

1560
01:36:40,479 --> 01:36:44,920
Speaker 1: the crawfish. Can taste the flavor of those crawfish. Crawfish

1561
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:49,639
Speaker 1: to fear another and look, any fancy restaurant in the city,

1562
01:36:50,040 --> 01:36:52,320
Speaker 1: you can walk into an auto crawfish had to fear.

1563
01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:55,439
Speaker 1: Do you know that you're you're not gonna walk in

1564
01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:59,559
Speaker 1: one of them and eat and it tastes zataran scrap

1565
01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:03,479
Speaker 1: ball or whatever. When you walk into a grocery store

1566
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:08,439
Speaker 1: and buy a pack one pound pack of crawfish tails,

1567
01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:13,160
Speaker 1: and you can buy Louisiana crawfish tails, but you can

1568
01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:18,160
Speaker 1: also buy Chinese. You buy the Louisiana crawfish tails. When

1569
01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:23,920
Speaker 1: you open it and taste them, no salt, there's no seasoning,

1570
01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:28,640
Speaker 1: it's just a natural crawfish and you use that to

1571
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:32,160
Speaker 1: cook to get that you understand. So when I when

1572
01:37:32,200 --> 01:37:35,479
Speaker 1: I cook crawfish, we're only cooking for me in my wife.

1573
01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:37,760
Speaker 1: You could you're cooking for a secondary use, not just

1574
01:37:37,880 --> 01:37:40,799
Speaker 1: the boil. Yeah, I'm heeding them for me and my wife.

1575
01:37:41,240 --> 01:37:43,360
Speaker 1: But then I got twenty pounds, I got a peel,

1576
01:37:44,080 --> 01:37:46,920
Speaker 1: and I have a commercial vacing packing machine. How long

1577
01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:50,479
Speaker 1: you been married? A hundred twenty three years? Next year

1578
01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:57,280
Speaker 1: reincarnated what's y'all? What's you'all pay you on? Freezing? With

1579
01:37:57,360 --> 01:38:02,160
Speaker 1: the fat? I do because I'm fat tail fat, the

1580
01:38:02,240 --> 01:38:04,640
Speaker 1: fat though, the yellow fat. Oh yeah, as much as

1581
01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:11,320
Speaker 1: I can, I'd keep you where. Yeah, you can't leave it.

1582
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:14,880
Speaker 1: You gotta lose it within three or four months. I'm

1583
01:38:14,960 --> 01:38:18,320
Speaker 1: not gonna leave crawfish and my freezer for a year.

1584
01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:23,120
Speaker 1: We eat, we eat it twelve months off here we're cooking.

1585
01:38:23,200 --> 01:38:27,360
Speaker 1: We crawfit. So it doesn't it doesn't stay long enough

1586
01:38:27,439 --> 01:38:30,479
Speaker 1: in my freeze that I get Ran said, Okay, do

1587
01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:33,200
Speaker 1: you know what it? Just you gotta if you're if

1588
01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:37,559
Speaker 1: you're planning on keeping some longer. You pulled the gut line.

1589
01:38:38,040 --> 01:38:41,000
Speaker 1: That's what we do a lot. Ran ranch them good

1590
01:38:41,080 --> 01:38:43,880
Speaker 1: with fresh water and then pack them and you can

1591
01:38:44,040 --> 01:38:47,920
Speaker 1: keep on a wall. Okay, Ronny you ready, Yeah, what

1592
01:38:48,040 --> 01:38:50,400
Speaker 1: you got, We're gonna move on. The last thing we're

1593
01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:53,920
Speaker 1: in the cover today is potentially my new favorite way

1594
01:38:53,920 --> 01:39:03,040
Speaker 1: to eat ducks. Walks through it the routie teed, but

1595
01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:06,479
Speaker 1: you down on it. That's the way we were. We

1596
01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:11,400
Speaker 1: were raised on that. My grand my grandmother. Listen, this

1597
01:39:11,640 --> 01:39:16,840
Speaker 1: is gonna blow your morning. No listen, I'm listening. Recently,

1598
01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:20,880
Speaker 1: the building got knocked down. I can go short to you,

1599
01:39:21,240 --> 01:39:29,160
Speaker 1: Hurricane Ida. That was my grandmother's building. She would clean

1600
01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:32,960
Speaker 1: duck in and up until ot of knocked it down.

1601
01:39:33,640 --> 01:39:37,160
Speaker 1: She died in nineteen seventy six. You walked through the

1602
01:39:37,240 --> 01:39:39,960
Speaker 1: door and there was still duck fellers and the spotty

1603
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:45,640
Speaker 1: webs in the ceiling. It was not a lot of

1604
01:39:45,760 --> 01:39:52,240
Speaker 1: people taught that. It's why we knew so much about

1605
01:39:52,280 --> 01:39:54,360
Speaker 1: duck hunting in my family. A lot of people thought

1606
01:39:54,520 --> 01:39:59,439
Speaker 1: market hunting in that in the thirties. My grandmother was

1607
01:39:59,520 --> 01:40:05,160
Speaker 1: still cleaning ducks in the seventies from three or four

1608
01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:11,439
Speaker 1: or five ducks are there in front of God. What

1609
01:40:11,560 --> 01:40:14,360
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, and all the game wars knew about it,

1610
01:40:14,920 --> 01:40:18,800
Speaker 1: and not once when she have a bonded they never

1611
01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:22,759
Speaker 1: came and they could have came there and not once.

1612
01:40:23,000 --> 01:40:26,360
Speaker 1: Then added her. She did that all her life. She

1613
01:40:26,479 --> 01:40:30,320
Speaker 1: would she'd save all the brass feathers and in the

1614
01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:34,600
Speaker 1: summertime my grandfather would put it in some long tubes

1615
01:40:35,320 --> 01:40:38,519
Speaker 1: and draw it into yard. And then in the fall

1616
01:40:38,680 --> 01:40:42,160
Speaker 1: my grandma would make pillows down. I still got a

1617
01:40:42,240 --> 01:40:46,800
Speaker 1: down pillow from my grandmother. There's a spoonbill head in

1618
01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:54,200
Speaker 1: the pillow. Have it? You're kidding me? I guess a

1619
01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:57,320
Speaker 1: dug head fell in the pillow and they never found it.

1620
01:40:57,880 --> 01:41:01,040
Speaker 1: And you can feel it. It's a spoon bill. I've

1621
01:41:01,080 --> 01:41:05,280
Speaker 1: been sleeping on it since Tom six, seven years old.

1622
01:41:06,120 --> 01:41:12,800
Speaker 1: That's that's my grandmother. And she liked to cook the

1623
01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:15,920
Speaker 1: root heat what's that word to get? That's the way

1624
01:41:16,240 --> 01:41:20,479
Speaker 1: the height. What's the dish called. It's a French word.

1625
01:41:21,040 --> 01:41:27,439
Speaker 1: It's it's a French word for roasting. It's just slow cooking.

1626
01:41:28,439 --> 01:41:33,600
Speaker 1: You're brown it out. A little water comes back that

1627
01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:36,920
Speaker 1: it's just grease out a little water and you just

1628
01:41:37,120 --> 01:41:41,799
Speaker 1: cooked for hours. Out a little water, bring it brown

1629
01:41:42,160 --> 01:41:46,080
Speaker 1: out a little water. In a black pot correct mostly

1630
01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:49,360
Speaker 1: black potter magnetite pots, you can really scrape the bottom

1631
01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:53,320
Speaker 1: we call that. We'll do that with Doug with our

1632
01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:59,160
Speaker 1: deer rules. Be frolls when a pork rolls rooted anything

1633
01:41:59,240 --> 01:42:02,760
Speaker 1: real negative? Stay about this, John Paul, Why am I

1634
01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:09,920
Speaker 1: being portrayed person? So I'm just giving some perspectives. He's like, yeah,

1635
01:42:10,080 --> 01:42:14,280
Speaker 1: let me know. I love that routine. I love that.

1636
01:42:15,320 --> 01:42:18,720
Speaker 1: So the routine duck traditionally, like budd said, you're gonna

1637
01:42:18,800 --> 01:42:20,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna brown it, I like to I like the

1638
01:42:21,120 --> 01:42:24,840
Speaker 1: you gotta back up, okay, because here's this, it's very

1639
01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:28,360
Speaker 1: important for people to know. Okay, I got a dead

1640
01:42:28,439 --> 01:42:32,960
Speaker 1: duck land there, all right, you getta getta walk the

1641
01:42:33,080 --> 01:42:37,360
Speaker 1: three your three stage fucking method. Just shot it. It's okay,

1642
01:42:37,520 --> 01:42:40,679
Speaker 1: it's still flopping, all right, just stop flopping. Just finished

1643
01:42:40,720 --> 01:42:44,120
Speaker 1: ringing his neck ring. Sorry, So I got you the

1644
01:42:45,080 --> 01:42:47,240
Speaker 1: fresh killed duck. Get back to the to the camp.

1645
01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:49,600
Speaker 1: What I'm gonna do. First thing, I'm gonna cut the

1646
01:42:49,640 --> 01:42:51,920
Speaker 1: wings off at the joint, because I don't like, you know,

1647
01:42:52,000 --> 01:42:54,040
Speaker 1: if you don't first joint, don't have the first joint,

1648
01:42:54,080 --> 01:42:56,360
Speaker 1: you're not cutting it off with the body, but the

1649
01:42:56,400 --> 01:42:59,360
Speaker 1: first yeah, the first joint out. You still got that elbow. Yeah,

1650
01:42:59,560 --> 01:43:01,479
Speaker 1: at a sailboy, you cut them at the eilboat. I

1651
01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:03,479
Speaker 1: like to cut them at the joint because I can't

1652
01:43:03,479 --> 01:43:05,320
Speaker 1: stand when I got those sharp bones poking into the

1653
01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:09,040
Speaker 1: small pellets, you know. So I cut him at the

1654
01:43:09,080 --> 01:43:10,920
Speaker 1: wing joints, and I'm gonna give them a rough pluck.

1655
01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:13,040
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not gonna focus a lot on those

1656
01:43:13,040 --> 01:43:15,160
Speaker 1: wing feathers because they're really hard to get. I'm gonna

1657
01:43:15,160 --> 01:43:17,320
Speaker 1: get all the breast feathers off, back feathers off but

1658
01:43:17,439 --> 01:43:20,720
Speaker 1: falls off, most of the leg feathers off, and then

1659
01:43:21,240 --> 01:43:27,120
Speaker 1: once he's pluck, when yeah, plucked, and then I'm gonna

1660
01:43:27,160 --> 01:43:30,360
Speaker 1: get get my water to a rolling boil. I'm gonna

1661
01:43:30,360 --> 01:43:32,920
Speaker 1: get a small, small crawfish spot and I'm gonna boil

1662
01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:35,840
Speaker 1: the water. Once I got that water boiling, i'm gonna

1663
01:43:35,880 --> 01:43:37,639
Speaker 1: take that duck and i'm gonna dip them for ten

1664
01:43:37,760 --> 01:43:41,920
Speaker 1: to fifteen seconds. And once once I'm done dipping, pull

1665
01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:43,880
Speaker 1: them out and I'm gonna dry them with an old towel,

1666
01:43:44,120 --> 01:43:46,479
Speaker 1: get them nice and dry, and then I'm gonna then

1667
01:43:46,760 --> 01:43:55,080
Speaker 1: remove the rest of those big feathers, which they'll come off. Yeah.

1668
01:43:55,120 --> 01:43:57,800
Speaker 1: The boiling is gonna open up those pores and and

1669
01:43:58,040 --> 01:44:02,320
Speaker 1: allow those, especially like in particularly wing feathers comes off

1670
01:44:02,479 --> 01:44:04,160
Speaker 1: real easy, and everything that would have been a pain

1671
01:44:04,240 --> 01:44:07,720
Speaker 1: in the everything there in the painting ask comes off

1672
01:44:09,680 --> 01:44:14,479
Speaker 1: the plug a chicken, yea factory hot water. Yeah, let's

1673
01:44:14,600 --> 01:44:17,280
Speaker 1: rub it off. So and then once once we do that,

1674
01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:21,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna so if if I'm at my house and

1675
01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:23,040
Speaker 1: I don't have to keep a head or a head

1676
01:44:23,080 --> 01:44:24,920
Speaker 1: on the head on, I'm gonna go straight to the

1677
01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:29,360
Speaker 1: d bowing process before you burn it. Oh you got me?

1678
01:44:31,720 --> 01:44:36,080
Speaker 1: And what's your after the boiling process, Once you got

1679
01:44:36,120 --> 01:44:38,280
Speaker 1: your ducks all nice and pretty, you're gonna gree am.

1680
01:44:38,360 --> 01:44:40,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the hot water off, and I'm gonna

1681
01:44:40,160 --> 01:44:42,040
Speaker 1: use that burner and I'm gonna hold the bill and

1682
01:44:42,120 --> 01:44:44,760
Speaker 1: the leg and I'm gonna pass that that duck through

1683
01:44:44,760 --> 01:44:47,720
Speaker 1: the fire just for a few seconds each burn all

1684
01:44:47,840 --> 01:44:50,240
Speaker 1: those little hairs off. Any other rain maybe feather I

1685
01:44:50,320 --> 01:44:51,800
Speaker 1: missed or something. I don't know what the hell those

1686
01:44:51,800 --> 01:44:54,240
Speaker 1: little hairs on a duck or called. I don't know,

1687
01:44:54,800 --> 01:44:59,400
Speaker 1: but you have a I know like so I know

1688
01:44:59,640 --> 01:45:01,880
Speaker 1: like of the pin feather, the pin feather. That's another

1689
01:45:01,960 --> 01:45:04,360
Speaker 1: thing that that's really good about boiling is the pin

1690
01:45:04,439 --> 01:45:07,000
Speaker 1: feather comes out really easy. And I like to take

1691
01:45:07,000 --> 01:45:09,280
Speaker 1: a knife in my thumb and that's a good trick

1692
01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:14,960
Speaker 1: and feather between your knife blade and your thumb. We

1693
01:45:15,040 --> 01:45:17,360
Speaker 1: call we call it the pin feather. A pouss on,

1694
01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:20,960
Speaker 1: didn't It wasn't Kid's grandma. They used to hearn. Her

1695
01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:22,559
Speaker 1: nickname was pouss On because she used to pull all

1696
01:45:22,560 --> 01:45:27,360
Speaker 1: the pouss on out. Pew. Okay, Kid's grandmother's nickname was

1697
01:45:27,479 --> 01:45:29,519
Speaker 1: pew because she used to shoot her good was to

1698
01:45:29,560 --> 01:45:33,120
Speaker 1: pull all the pin feathers out. Um. So yeah, so

1699
01:45:33,160 --> 01:45:34,920
Speaker 1: once you got the pin fails out, going to create

1700
01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:37,559
Speaker 1: that duck. And then once once you create them, you're

1701
01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:39,720
Speaker 1: just gonna give him a little slap, slap around, pat

1702
01:45:39,800 --> 01:45:44,960
Speaker 1: off those those that that burnt hair off then like so,

1703
01:45:45,280 --> 01:45:48,479
Speaker 1: and at this point it looks like a beauty, beautiful

1704
01:45:48,720 --> 01:45:51,200
Speaker 1: you you ain't You're not ever going to see a

1705
01:45:51,280 --> 01:45:53,839
Speaker 1: more beautiful duck that's been just been boiled and create.

1706
01:45:53,960 --> 01:45:55,880
Speaker 1: I mean that's just yeah. You put that shot on

1707
01:45:55,960 --> 01:45:58,000
Speaker 1: the front of Better Homes and Gardens man one of them.

1708
01:45:59,760 --> 01:46:01,960
Speaker 1: So so if like I said, I, if I'm at

1709
01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:04,360
Speaker 1: my house, I'm gonna go straight to the de boning process,

1710
01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:06,040
Speaker 1: because that way I gotta stick my hand up in

1711
01:46:06,080 --> 01:46:08,439
Speaker 1: the cavity to pull the guts out. So what I

1712
01:46:08,520 --> 01:46:10,720
Speaker 1: do is, I'm gonna take the duck like I showed you,

1713
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:13,080
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna split right down the breasts. I'm gonna

1714
01:46:13,120 --> 01:46:15,280
Speaker 1: come around the wing joint, around the back of the

1715
01:46:15,400 --> 01:46:17,880
Speaker 1: duck to the leg joint, and then you get those

1716
01:46:17,880 --> 01:46:20,240
Speaker 1: halves of ducks like we had. And then once I've

1717
01:46:20,280 --> 01:46:22,000
Speaker 1: got the two house, you've got that that body core,

1718
01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:27,320
Speaker 1: the boneless breast, full wing, full leg correct every edible

1719
01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:29,320
Speaker 1: thing is off that duck. Everything. There is not a

1720
01:46:29,360 --> 01:46:32,120
Speaker 1: piece of meat left on that duck. So now i

1721
01:46:32,200 --> 01:46:34,040
Speaker 1: haven't gutted them yet. So what I'm gonna do now

1722
01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:36,439
Speaker 1: is I'm gonna make a slit under the breastplate and

1723
01:46:36,479 --> 01:46:40,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pull that breastplate up, opening the hatch. Opening

1724
01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:42,880
Speaker 1: the hatch, the heart, the liver, and the gigs thats

1725
01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:46,320
Speaker 1: gonna be sitting right there and you just pull them out,

1726
01:46:46,439 --> 01:46:48,240
Speaker 1: put them to the side, and I'm gonna do all

1727
01:46:48,280 --> 01:46:50,120
Speaker 1: my ducks like that, and then I'm gonna come back

1728
01:46:50,120 --> 01:46:52,080
Speaker 1: to the to the gizzer, which we call it a

1729
01:46:53,439 --> 01:46:56,360
Speaker 1: and um, I'm gonna cut on each side of that

1730
01:46:56,720 --> 01:46:59,040
Speaker 1: silt sack. And I'm gonna have two pieces, two little

1731
01:46:59,080 --> 01:47:01,720
Speaker 1: nut gives a nugget. That's nur trick I learned from you. Yeah,

1732
01:47:01,840 --> 01:47:03,400
Speaker 1: because I had to go through all the hassle open

1733
01:47:03,439 --> 01:47:05,960
Speaker 1: the sun's bitches up and scraping them and scraping them.

1734
01:47:05,960 --> 01:47:07,639
Speaker 1: But then I wind up with exactly what you wind

1735
01:47:07,760 --> 01:47:10,839
Speaker 1: up with. Just cut it off, just like a stupid

1736
01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:14,600
Speaker 1: I had no idea. I wasted so much time. Same here, man, like,

1737
01:47:14,720 --> 01:47:18,280
Speaker 1: I wind up with exactly the same thing. Yeah, maybe

1738
01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:20,120
Speaker 1: you lose no meat, and then no, you want up

1739
01:47:20,160 --> 01:47:22,280
Speaker 1: with with I don't know what I was doing, Yeah,

1740
01:47:22,320 --> 01:47:25,760
Speaker 1: And then it makes much I like. I like. I

1741
01:47:25,920 --> 01:47:28,519
Speaker 1: like to reward my dog after a good hunt of

1742
01:47:28,960 --> 01:47:31,080
Speaker 1: you know, she's she's she does more work than any

1743
01:47:31,160 --> 01:47:33,080
Speaker 1: of us out there, so I like to give her.

1744
01:47:33,520 --> 01:47:35,280
Speaker 1: I'm not a big liver fan. I'll feed her the

1745
01:47:35,360 --> 01:47:39,120
Speaker 1: livers and uh, I give her the gizzard corpse and

1746
01:47:39,400 --> 01:47:45,840
Speaker 1: uh and the and the trips and how many ducks

1747
01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:51,320
Speaker 1: have you and I cleaned together? So we shot some

1748
01:47:51,680 --> 01:47:54,360
Speaker 1: shot some gallan new. Would you do the same thing

1749
01:47:54,439 --> 01:47:57,559
Speaker 1: with gallan New? What you mean I mean that same process?

1750
01:47:57,720 --> 01:48:00,800
Speaker 1: Or is it so the Gallanu. I like to start

1751
01:48:00,840 --> 01:48:03,160
Speaker 1: by cutting the wings off, and then I'm gonna slit

1752
01:48:03,200 --> 01:48:07,280
Speaker 1: their throat and put there's a where their crops at.

1753
01:48:07,320 --> 01:48:09,080
Speaker 1: You got a lot of skin. I gave it a

1754
01:48:09,160 --> 01:48:11,799
Speaker 1: little slit. Peel that skin a little bit off the breast,

1755
01:48:11,880 --> 01:48:15,880
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna stick my finger down the I guess

1756
01:48:15,880 --> 01:48:18,519
Speaker 1: where the wishbone is. I'm gonna pull the head and

1757
01:48:18,560 --> 01:48:20,920
Speaker 1: pull the wishbone, and that breast is gonna come out

1758
01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:22,240
Speaker 1: nice and pretty. And like I said, if I'm in

1759
01:48:22,320 --> 01:48:24,120
Speaker 1: my house, I don't need to leave a wing. So

1760
01:48:24,680 --> 01:48:26,720
Speaker 1: by cutting those wings off, the skin just peels right

1761
01:48:26,760 --> 01:48:29,280
Speaker 1: off and you get a perfect breast, no feather's no

1762
01:48:29,400 --> 01:48:31,679
Speaker 1: clean up. Let toss that in a bucket of water

1763
01:48:31,800 --> 01:48:34,120
Speaker 1: and then just like with then handed to Chester the

1764
01:48:34,200 --> 01:48:38,720
Speaker 1: d braster dude, I will say about those gallon new

1765
01:48:38,960 --> 01:48:46,320
Speaker 1: wholely cow. Yeah, it's a good bird I'd rather eat. Yeah.

1766
01:48:46,640 --> 01:48:49,639
Speaker 1: And the thing too bout that Argalls does from y'all

1767
01:48:49,680 --> 01:49:02,160
Speaker 1: tarking American. Oh Yeah, very similar. So and another thing

1768
01:49:02,360 --> 01:49:04,040
Speaker 1: back to like when gonna pull the breasts out that way,

1769
01:49:04,160 --> 01:49:06,120
Speaker 1: just like the duck, It's like when you open that hatch,

1770
01:49:06,240 --> 01:49:08,040
Speaker 1: there's the gizzard the heart and the liver just sitting

1771
01:49:08,080 --> 01:49:10,080
Speaker 1: right on top, you know, having the dig through the trips.

1772
01:49:10,160 --> 01:49:16,040
Speaker 1: None of that flips. So so then there you are.

1773
01:49:16,240 --> 01:49:19,719
Speaker 1: You got your duck. Go on, keep keep making the dish.

1774
01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:23,120
Speaker 1: Got your halfs now. Now I've got my two halves

1775
01:49:23,160 --> 01:49:25,320
Speaker 1: in my duck. I'm gonna go and get a magnelite

1776
01:49:25,360 --> 01:49:28,000
Speaker 1: pot or black pot, and I'm gonna put a little

1777
01:49:28,040 --> 01:49:30,120
Speaker 1: bit of olive oil, a little bit of grease, just

1778
01:49:30,280 --> 01:49:32,439
Speaker 1: enough to wet the bottom that way, I don't get

1779
01:49:32,479 --> 01:49:34,680
Speaker 1: a hard stick when I throw it in. And I'm

1780
01:49:34,680 --> 01:49:36,600
Speaker 1: gonna take those I'm gonna take those duck hives, and

1781
01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:40,040
Speaker 1: I'm ana laying fat down on a medium heat, and

1782
01:49:40,120 --> 01:49:42,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start to cook that skin down and get

1783
01:49:42,479 --> 01:49:45,479
Speaker 1: as much fat out of that skin to make my grease.

1784
01:49:45,720 --> 01:49:47,479
Speaker 1: I hope people are listening to what you're saying right now,

1785
01:49:48,240 --> 01:49:51,280
Speaker 1: So yeah, I get that, get that that duck. Like listen,

1786
01:49:51,320 --> 01:49:53,600
Speaker 1: I don't I want people understand something you got like

1787
01:49:53,720 --> 01:49:57,800
Speaker 1: your ten Commandments, okay, get like the Constitution, you got

1788
01:49:57,880 --> 01:50:01,479
Speaker 1: like the Declaration Independence, and then you got this recipe.

1789
01:50:02,640 --> 01:50:04,559
Speaker 1: Ship is all sort of like you know what I mean,

1790
01:50:05,400 --> 01:50:09,960
Speaker 1: So listen, so I get those ducks half down, fat down,

1791
01:50:10,040 --> 01:50:13,040
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna brown them down till the just the

1792
01:50:13,120 --> 01:50:16,080
Speaker 1: tops of them start to cook. And the big thing

1793
01:50:16,200 --> 01:50:18,559
Speaker 1: is you do not want to over brown them, because

1794
01:50:18,600 --> 01:50:20,400
Speaker 1: then those ducks arena get real not in hard, and

1795
01:50:20,439 --> 01:50:23,599
Speaker 1: they're not gonna get tender. So as as they get

1796
01:50:23,680 --> 01:50:25,280
Speaker 1: to where I like them brown, I'm gonna pull them

1797
01:50:25,320 --> 01:50:27,120
Speaker 1: out and put them in a metal a metal bowl

1798
01:50:27,600 --> 01:50:29,920
Speaker 1: and get them all that. Once I've browned all my ducks,

1799
01:50:30,280 --> 01:50:33,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take my my trinity, my my, my, my onions,

1800
01:50:33,640 --> 01:50:36,240
Speaker 1: my bell peppers, and my salary diced belt. Okay, so

1801
01:50:36,360 --> 01:50:40,320
Speaker 1: it's diced diced bell peppers and Jehan Paul give them

1802
01:50:40,439 --> 01:50:44,439
Speaker 1: give the official ratio. Yeah, I mean I always used

1803
01:50:44,520 --> 01:50:52,680
Speaker 1: like I go one one so more onion to two

1804
01:50:52,720 --> 01:50:55,040
Speaker 1: parts onion, one part bell pepper, one part cellery, and

1805
01:50:55,120 --> 01:51:00,240
Speaker 1: I don't really tell are completely avoid I see a lot. Yeah,

1806
01:51:00,800 --> 01:51:03,400
Speaker 1: but I asked you a quick question. One word answer

1807
01:51:03,479 --> 01:51:08,559
Speaker 1: is fine to three word answer. What ratio do you cook? Rice?

1808
01:51:09,200 --> 01:51:18,920
Speaker 1: M hmm, first joint, first joint. That's how I've done. Yeah,

1809
01:51:19,360 --> 01:51:27,400
Speaker 1: you can cook you apot of rise. It's my dad

1810
01:51:27,600 --> 01:51:32,240
Speaker 1: working off shore. I learned I can cook anything. My dad,

1811
01:51:32,760 --> 01:51:34,840
Speaker 1: I saw my doubt what you're doing. I'm cooking ross

1812
01:51:34,920 --> 01:51:37,439
Speaker 1: or what you? Why you? Why are you sticking your finger?

1813
01:51:37,880 --> 01:51:39,920
Speaker 1: He said, doesn't matter how much trust you put in there.

1814
01:51:39,960 --> 01:51:42,960
Speaker 1: You imagine the water up to that first joint where

1815
01:51:42,960 --> 01:51:45,920
Speaker 1: you touching the ros is gonna come out perfect. Every

1816
01:51:46,000 --> 01:51:51,559
Speaker 1: time I've been doing it for sixty for fifty five years,

1817
01:51:52,560 --> 01:51:56,120
Speaker 1: it comes out perfect. Every time. There's your three word answer.

1818
01:52:04,040 --> 01:52:08,519
Speaker 1: So back to the back to the your trinity. Onions belt,

1819
01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:12,639
Speaker 1: two onions, one part bell pepper, one part cellery, diced

1820
01:52:12,680 --> 01:52:15,599
Speaker 1: up and throwing the Pope's hat, which is a little

1821
01:52:15,600 --> 01:52:18,320
Speaker 1: bit of garlic, a little chop garlic. So I'm gonna

1822
01:52:18,320 --> 01:52:22,240
Speaker 1: throw that into my duck fat grease that I've just

1823
01:52:22,360 --> 01:52:26,160
Speaker 1: made by browning down those ducks. And also with my trinity,

1824
01:52:26,160 --> 01:52:30,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw in my gizzards in my hearts. I'm

1825
01:52:30,120 --> 01:52:32,799
Speaker 1: gonna brown that down, get them, get them onion sweating,

1826
01:52:33,280 --> 01:52:35,800
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna brown down to the consistency I like,

1827
01:52:36,000 --> 01:52:39,439
Speaker 1: which you know, with any anything, you just get it

1828
01:52:39,479 --> 01:52:42,360
Speaker 1: browned down and thickens. And then once I'm to the

1829
01:52:42,400 --> 01:52:44,680
Speaker 1: browning process, I like, I'm gonna take those ducks I'm

1830
01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:47,680
Speaker 1: gonna dump them back in to the onions and give

1831
01:52:47,720 --> 01:52:50,040
Speaker 1: them a little more of a browning down in there.

1832
01:52:50,560 --> 01:52:52,280
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna take that bowl, and the ducks are

1833
01:52:52,320 --> 01:52:54,040
Speaker 1: sitting in a lot of a lot more grease and

1834
01:52:54,120 --> 01:52:55,920
Speaker 1: blood's gonna have to licked out those ducks. And I'm

1835
01:52:55,920 --> 01:52:59,280
Speaker 1: gonna put some water in there, throw that around, dump

1836
01:52:59,320 --> 01:53:02,000
Speaker 1: it in, and then gonna fill the pot up just

1837
01:53:02,240 --> 01:53:05,600
Speaker 1: above where everything's sitting in in some chicken stock and

1838
01:53:05,680 --> 01:53:07,720
Speaker 1: some chicken broth with a little bit of water, and

1839
01:53:07,720 --> 01:53:09,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring it just to where it's above that

1840
01:53:10,960 --> 01:53:12,880
Speaker 1: um there. And so I'm and then I'm gonna bring

1841
01:53:13,320 --> 01:53:16,960
Speaker 1: get that boiling now this so most people would just

1842
01:53:17,080 --> 01:53:19,680
Speaker 1: continue to add as the water would drop or the

1843
01:53:19,680 --> 01:53:21,560
Speaker 1: stock would drop, they'd add a little water out, a

1844
01:53:21,600 --> 01:53:23,760
Speaker 1: little water out of the water. I have three ways

1845
01:53:23,840 --> 01:53:25,600
Speaker 1: that I like to do it. I do it that

1846
01:53:25,680 --> 01:53:27,800
Speaker 1: way where you just add water every time it drops down.

1847
01:53:28,600 --> 01:53:33,040
Speaker 1: Or I'll put it in the I'm adding water when

1848
01:53:33,040 --> 01:53:36,040
Speaker 1: it's on the burner. Um Or I'll put it in

1849
01:53:36,120 --> 01:53:39,160
Speaker 1: the oven for a couple of hours is my second

1850
01:53:39,200 --> 01:53:40,600
Speaker 1: way I do it. And then my third way I

1851
01:53:40,680 --> 01:53:43,160
Speaker 1: do it like if sometimes I'll just sit there. I'll

1852
01:53:43,200 --> 01:53:44,600
Speaker 1: throw it if I if I don't really have a

1853
01:53:44,640 --> 01:53:45,680
Speaker 1: lot of time to cook it, or if I want

1854
01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:47,439
Speaker 1: to eat the next day, I'm gonna take those ducks.

1855
01:53:47,439 --> 01:53:50,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw them in a slow cooker overnight and

1856
01:53:50,520 --> 01:53:54,160
Speaker 1: then then then So the next step is once you

1857
01:53:54,280 --> 01:53:55,920
Speaker 1: either way you do it, you're gonna so you can

1858
01:53:55,960 --> 01:53:57,960
Speaker 1: do the ball down process where you just bail it down,

1859
01:53:58,000 --> 01:53:59,920
Speaker 1: added water, ball down to the ducks are tender and

1860
01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:02,800
Speaker 1: and it's ready. So Ronnie, really, yesterday when we made

1861
01:54:02,840 --> 01:54:05,240
Speaker 1: the recipe for this, we had a we had an

1862
01:54:05,280 --> 01:54:08,080
Speaker 1: extra ingredient that we got from the bodies. Oh yeah,

1863
01:54:08,160 --> 01:54:10,120
Speaker 1: so yeah we didn't. But you don't always have that.

1864
01:54:10,360 --> 01:54:12,760
Speaker 1: You don't always have a lot of times, I'll add

1865
01:54:12,840 --> 01:54:15,280
Speaker 1: mushrooms whenever I don't have gizzards and hearts, just just

1866
01:54:15,439 --> 01:54:18,519
Speaker 1: to kind of imitate that that feeling. But we we

1867
01:54:18,560 --> 01:54:21,280
Speaker 1: actually went out and got those uh those oyster mushrooms

1868
01:54:23,000 --> 01:54:26,920
Speaker 1: champions will the while champions, and we we did add

1869
01:54:27,000 --> 01:54:30,200
Speaker 1: that in there too, So um, that came out really good.

1870
01:54:30,720 --> 01:54:34,120
Speaker 1: Um yesterday I used the oven method because we went

1871
01:54:34,160 --> 01:54:36,840
Speaker 1: out crawl fishing, so it was easy. I just I

1872
01:54:36,920 --> 01:54:39,520
Speaker 1: got it. I got the water hot, took it off

1873
01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:42,920
Speaker 1: the stove, stuck in the oven for two hours while

1874
01:54:42,960 --> 01:54:46,520
Speaker 1: we were crawl fishing. Came back. So with the ball

1875
01:54:46,600 --> 01:54:49,800
Speaker 1: down process, once you're done, once you've got it the

1876
01:54:50,080 --> 01:54:52,960
Speaker 1: ducks tender and the gravy to the consistency, you like,

1877
01:54:53,520 --> 01:54:56,600
Speaker 1: it's done, it's ready to put it over some rice. Um.

1878
01:54:56,920 --> 01:55:00,280
Speaker 1: Now with the slow cooker and the oven method. Once

1879
01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:02,400
Speaker 1: I've got the ducks to the tenderness I want, I'm

1880
01:55:02,400 --> 01:55:04,240
Speaker 1: gonna put it back on the stove and I'm gonna

1881
01:55:04,640 --> 01:55:07,200
Speaker 1: finish off with the ball down method to ball down

1882
01:55:07,280 --> 01:55:10,800
Speaker 1: and get that gravy just to the consistency in the

1883
01:55:10,880 --> 01:55:12,480
Speaker 1: darkness that all light. So then you just let it

1884
01:55:12,640 --> 01:55:14,960
Speaker 1: rip and boil that water off, cook it down, brown

1885
01:55:15,040 --> 01:55:16,440
Speaker 1: it a little bit, get it, you know, get that

1886
01:55:16,680 --> 01:55:18,000
Speaker 1: if it's not if it's because a lot of times

1887
01:55:18,040 --> 01:55:19,720
Speaker 1: when you when you use a slow cooker in the oven,

1888
01:55:20,200 --> 01:55:22,240
Speaker 1: your gravy is gonna be a little lighter. Like last night,

1889
01:55:22,280 --> 01:55:24,960
Speaker 1: the gravy was a little a little lighter than I

1890
01:55:25,520 --> 01:55:28,160
Speaker 1: So you just just roll boil it off there, yeah,

1891
01:55:28,480 --> 01:55:30,520
Speaker 1: roll roll boil, But you don't want to start too heavy,

1892
01:55:30,640 --> 01:55:33,160
Speaker 1: especially because then the ducks will fall apart. So you

1893
01:55:33,240 --> 01:55:34,680
Speaker 1: just want to kind of have brown. Just make sure

1894
01:55:34,720 --> 01:55:41,320
Speaker 1: nothing sticking down that the word routed. We cook everything

1895
01:55:41,480 --> 01:55:44,680
Speaker 1: like that just if your days or go up. While

1896
01:55:44,760 --> 01:55:46,560
Speaker 1: we were at the pond, I mentioned to you we

1897
01:55:46,680 --> 01:55:50,440
Speaker 1: had a campside where we go do two trinadas and

1898
01:55:50,800 --> 01:55:55,760
Speaker 1: coyotas annoyed. We cooked a rabbit the same way, but

1899
01:55:55,880 --> 01:56:00,760
Speaker 1: with all the trinity just brown died, kept out of

1900
01:56:00,800 --> 01:56:04,200
Speaker 1: it over account farm in a black pot, little water,

1901
01:56:04,320 --> 01:56:07,880
Speaker 1: salt and papa. And when the rabbit got timned it

1902
01:56:08,160 --> 01:56:11,440
Speaker 1: we haved out over rice. Me and my friend Jameson

1903
01:56:11,560 --> 01:56:15,680
Speaker 1: that was there. We cooked died a couple of times.

1904
01:56:15,760 --> 01:56:20,520
Speaker 1: So far. We've done a rabbit, swamp rabbits, no raised

1905
01:56:21,240 --> 01:56:28,480
Speaker 1: farm rabbit, Jason raises rabbits California, something in a New

1906
01:56:28,640 --> 01:56:34,080
Speaker 1: Zealand the huge drabbit. It's pretty good that that cleaning

1907
01:56:34,120 --> 01:56:36,760
Speaker 1: method I was telling about both the ra pudos and

1908
01:56:36,920 --> 01:56:40,600
Speaker 1: the ducks actually came from. But but in their family,

1909
01:56:41,000 --> 01:56:43,720
Speaker 1: that was a trick that they showed me. I used

1910
01:56:43,720 --> 01:56:45,440
Speaker 1: to my dad, No, I just used to just give

1911
01:56:45,520 --> 01:56:48,320
Speaker 1: him a real good plug and then we create him

1912
01:56:48,360 --> 01:56:51,560
Speaker 1: that boiling action. Actually like that boiling action, that's something.

1913
01:56:53,440 --> 01:56:54,960
Speaker 1: And the thing with the with the ra pudos that

1914
01:56:55,040 --> 01:56:56,680
Speaker 1: that that process. A lot of times like we go

1915
01:56:56,840 --> 01:56:58,520
Speaker 1: do these coot shoots and where we go out there.

1916
01:56:58,560 --> 01:57:00,400
Speaker 1: We'll go out there with a whole bunch of us

1917
01:57:00,400 --> 01:57:02,880
Speaker 1: and we'll shoot. But it was a coot shoot. Man.

1918
01:57:03,040 --> 01:57:04,760
Speaker 1: He was the one who showed us the coot shoot too.

1919
01:57:05,120 --> 01:57:06,640
Speaker 1: And we used to go camp out there in high

1920
01:57:06,640 --> 01:57:09,400
Speaker 1: school in the blind just I got a T shirt,

1921
01:57:09,720 --> 01:57:11,320
Speaker 1: I got I got them all. I don't know, I

1922
01:57:12,000 --> 01:57:19,200
Speaker 1: got one shot poor, I got them all some T shirts,

1923
01:57:20,160 --> 01:57:25,440
Speaker 1: uh like Buff. But yeah, there was many times we

1924
01:57:25,520 --> 01:57:27,600
Speaker 1: had enough people we came back with over a hundred

1925
01:57:27,600 --> 01:57:30,160
Speaker 1: poudos because a lot of fifteen a day, fifteen per

1926
01:57:30,240 --> 01:57:32,000
Speaker 1: person per day. We would go out there with a

1927
01:57:32,120 --> 01:57:35,880
Speaker 1: big group. When he told you how to pull the brass,

1928
01:57:35,960 --> 01:57:38,920
Speaker 1: the whole brass off, we'd sit there, three or four

1929
01:57:38,960 --> 01:57:44,840
Speaker 1: of us. Yeah, we we sit there. We make an

1930
01:57:44,880 --> 01:57:47,800
Speaker 1: assembly line. Like one guy was cutting wings, one guy

1931
01:57:47,960 --> 01:57:49,720
Speaker 1: one or two guys pulling brass, the next guy was

1932
01:57:49,760 --> 01:57:52,440
Speaker 1: pulling gizzards and hearts, and it was an assembly line.

1933
01:57:52,480 --> 01:57:54,520
Speaker 1: And like you said, we would we clean a hundred

1934
01:57:54,560 --> 01:58:00,160
Speaker 1: poutos and we wouldn't hunt like Buff. We had to

1935
01:58:00,240 --> 01:58:05,920
Speaker 1: have some type of assembly line. Yeah, frogs you, Yeah,

1936
01:58:05,960 --> 01:58:08,600
Speaker 1: we had to have an assembly line. We go, we

1937
01:58:08,680 --> 01:58:12,879
Speaker 1: go to launch hed lawnch Hed was the cleaning factory.

1938
01:58:13,040 --> 01:58:15,560
Speaker 1: Was the cleaning fact same thing with ducks. It was

1939
01:58:15,600 --> 01:58:18,160
Speaker 1: like an assembly line. We had some people plucking, a

1940
01:58:18,200 --> 01:58:22,200
Speaker 1: guy cutting wings, everybody plucking, someone boiling, someone rubbing, and

1941
01:58:22,280 --> 01:58:26,240
Speaker 1: that the process would be Remember the episode in Mississippi

1942
01:58:26,320 --> 01:58:30,360
Speaker 1: when the snow hut. That was an assembling line. Yeah,

1943
01:58:30,920 --> 01:58:32,800
Speaker 1: I mean there were fathers. When we got through, it

1944
01:58:32,920 --> 01:58:37,920
Speaker 1: looked like it had snowed and that it was windy.

1945
01:58:38,360 --> 01:58:41,000
Speaker 1: We were plugging, we were we were cutting them feathers

1946
01:58:41,080 --> 01:58:43,360
Speaker 1: over the snow geese and we're skinning the snows and

1947
01:58:43,400 --> 01:58:46,240
Speaker 1: plucking the specks. Yeah, it looked like it had snow.

1948
01:58:46,440 --> 01:58:49,920
Speaker 1: In that whole field behind the camp. There was all

1949
01:58:50,000 --> 01:58:53,880
Speaker 1: the feathers from the s and the ducks. We shot

1950
01:58:54,040 --> 01:58:56,160
Speaker 1: what we had. We don't know we had ten of us.

1951
01:58:56,240 --> 01:58:58,840
Speaker 1: We mean we shot we shot like sixty ducks and

1952
01:58:59,000 --> 01:59:03,320
Speaker 1: like ninety geese. I wanna, um, we're gonna close out,

1953
01:59:03,320 --> 01:59:04,720
Speaker 1: But I want to share with you guys a recipe

1954
01:59:04,720 --> 01:59:07,360
Speaker 1: I think you'll be interested in. Already told John paul

1955
01:59:08,080 --> 01:59:09,720
Speaker 1: I wrote it down. The reason you like it is

1956
01:59:09,720 --> 01:59:14,160
Speaker 1: because it involves ducks, involves rice. But this is from

1957
01:59:14,200 --> 01:59:17,480
Speaker 1: a northern and our first joint. I didn't know about

1958
01:59:17,520 --> 01:59:20,360
Speaker 1: any of that. Man, My right sucks compared to you guys. Rice.

1959
01:59:20,960 --> 01:59:22,880
Speaker 1: The back of my rice bag has been lying to

1960
01:59:22,960 --> 01:59:24,720
Speaker 1: me my whole life. They tell you in the back

1961
01:59:24,760 --> 01:59:27,120
Speaker 1: of the bag what I told you. I'm not joking trying.

1962
01:59:27,320 --> 01:59:31,000
Speaker 1: Oh listen, man, I'm tip of your finger touches the rice.

1963
01:59:31,120 --> 01:59:33,960
Speaker 1: If the waters that this first joint, it's gonna come

1964
01:59:34,000 --> 01:59:37,960
Speaker 1: out perfect. This man's paused now every single time that

1965
01:59:38,080 --> 01:59:45,680
Speaker 1: knuckles high, got a high knuckle high. Us should do it.

1966
01:59:45,840 --> 01:59:48,800
Speaker 1: It's gonna be perfect. Every time I have been when

1967
01:59:48,840 --> 01:59:50,280
Speaker 1: you I don't know if you've ever read the back

1968
01:59:50,320 --> 01:59:51,920
Speaker 1: of a rice bag. What they tell you to do

1969
01:59:52,480 --> 01:59:55,200
Speaker 1: is they tell you to do two to one. Yeah,

1970
01:59:56,000 --> 01:59:58,320
Speaker 1: So you put the parage cup. Yeah, you put the

1971
01:59:58,400 --> 01:59:59,680
Speaker 1: rice in there. You put the water there and bring

1972
01:59:59,760 --> 02:00:01,880
Speaker 1: it to boil, and then I cook it till the

1973
02:00:01,960 --> 02:00:04,840
Speaker 1: water is gone. I cook it till the water is gone.

1974
02:00:05,880 --> 02:00:07,600
Speaker 1: It just kind of looks right now, let it sit.

1975
02:00:07,720 --> 02:00:09,640
Speaker 1: Then I fluff it. But my rice sucks compare to

1976
02:00:09,680 --> 02:00:11,480
Speaker 1: you guys. Right, you kind of you kind of fluff it.

1977
02:00:12,520 --> 02:00:14,600
Speaker 1: I cook it in a pot too. When we're camping

1978
02:00:14,680 --> 02:00:20,960
Speaker 1: them all rice cook on a pot, the fingers and

1979
02:00:21,920 --> 02:00:25,960
Speaker 1: when the water is gone, don't fluff your ice. You

1980
02:00:26,120 --> 02:00:30,720
Speaker 1: just put the cover on and turn the fire just barely.

1981
02:00:32,040 --> 02:00:35,760
Speaker 1: Like you, you try to mimic what the rice cooker

1982
02:00:35,840 --> 02:00:41,040
Speaker 1: is doing. He knows what I'm talking about. You. Yeah,

1983
02:00:41,120 --> 02:00:43,520
Speaker 1: you just turn it down, lo lo lo. I leave

1984
02:00:43,560 --> 02:00:46,320
Speaker 1: it a few minutes, and when you open that rice pot,

1985
02:00:46,360 --> 02:00:49,280
Speaker 1: it's gonna be perfect. Let me tell you real quick, though,

1986
02:00:49,440 --> 02:00:50,760
Speaker 1: what I what I made the other day that I

1987
02:00:50,800 --> 02:00:55,240
Speaker 1: thought was good, like phenomenally good? Is I cook? I

1988
02:00:55,320 --> 02:00:57,120
Speaker 1: cook my ducks in a what you guys call a

1989
02:00:57,160 --> 02:01:01,320
Speaker 1: black pot like cathline scale. So I got my halves.

1990
02:01:01,760 --> 02:01:03,600
Speaker 1: I sear hum skin side down. This is the way

1991
02:01:03,640 --> 02:01:07,520
Speaker 1: I eat the ducks. I e. I sear the half

1992
02:01:07,600 --> 02:01:09,680
Speaker 1: just like Ryan described. I steer the half skin side

1993
02:01:09,720 --> 02:01:13,440
Speaker 1: down on the on the stove top. I flip it

1994
02:01:14,400 --> 02:01:17,200
Speaker 1: skin side up and put in a four degree of

1995
02:01:17,360 --> 02:01:19,400
Speaker 1: and for a few minutes I eat him very rare.

1996
02:01:20,560 --> 02:01:22,520
Speaker 1: When you pull them out, you got all that duck

1997
02:01:22,600 --> 02:01:27,200
Speaker 1: fat that rendered out in that skillet. Then I took

1998
02:01:27,280 --> 02:01:30,280
Speaker 1: old rice that I had cooked the day before and

1999
02:01:30,440 --> 02:01:36,200
Speaker 1: make like a fried rice, duck fat fried rice. That

2000
02:01:36,280 --> 02:01:44,000
Speaker 1: sounds good. Man, Come on talking to a real Cajun

2001
02:01:44,080 --> 02:01:47,280
Speaker 1: restaurant near you. When I come down and get my restaurant,

2002
02:01:47,320 --> 02:01:52,760
Speaker 1: the real Cajun, I had that rice dressing, and we're

2003
02:01:52,760 --> 02:01:57,920
Speaker 1: gonna have that fried rice, and every table's gonna have

2004
02:01:58,040 --> 02:02:02,440
Speaker 1: a tank with sauce coumbing up. You know, there's not

2005
02:02:02,440 --> 02:02:04,000
Speaker 1: even gonna be a sign. You'll know it's the right

2006
02:02:04,040 --> 02:02:07,320
Speaker 1: restaurant when you see a reservoir of hot sauce bolted

2007
02:02:07,360 --> 02:02:09,280
Speaker 1: to the roof. It's like the water the Gallean of

2008
02:02:09,360 --> 02:02:16,200
Speaker 1: water Towns eighteen wheeler coming from every all and every

2009
02:02:16,280 --> 02:02:20,880
Speaker 1: week bringing a hot sauce. Alright, guys, this has been

2010
02:02:20,920 --> 02:02:22,960
Speaker 1: a great trip. Man. I learned so much about cooking

2011
02:02:23,040 --> 02:02:27,400
Speaker 1: down here, a lot about cooking. I really appreciate it.

2012
02:02:27,520 --> 02:02:30,880
Speaker 1: And but I appreciate your generosity yesterday letting us go

2013
02:02:30,960 --> 02:02:33,040
Speaker 1: over and pull the harvest off your pond. Actually, it

2014
02:02:33,200 --> 02:02:38,040
Speaker 1: wasn't honor for me to have y'all hears on your faces,

2015
02:02:38,160 --> 02:02:40,520
Speaker 1: and y'all look like y'all had a good time, So

2016
02:02:41,400 --> 02:02:43,600
Speaker 1: I mean, that's all that matters. It was a great time.

2017
02:02:44,000 --> 02:02:46,920
Speaker 1: And Ronnie Collins, thank you for everything showing us all

2018
02:02:46,960 --> 02:02:50,360
Speaker 1: around Johan Paul, all the great cooking stuff, all the

2019
02:02:50,440 --> 02:02:53,800
Speaker 1: hanging out, all the corrections. I was waiting for some

2020
02:02:54,040 --> 02:02:59,320
Speaker 1: sorry listen man. It made it uh having the uh

2021
02:03:01,520 --> 02:03:06,880
Speaker 1: you know, all the context, the culinary context was very helpful.

2022
02:03:07,080 --> 02:03:14,160
Speaker 1: I'm only teasing about the like, yeah, uh, everything I

2023
02:03:14,240 --> 02:03:16,760
Speaker 1: learned about Buddin and what isn't it isn't. I appreciate

2024
02:03:16,800 --> 02:03:20,040
Speaker 1: all that stuff. Thank you, do you do until next episode?

2025
02:03:20,160 --> 02:03:20,879
Speaker 1: Thanks everybody,