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Speaker 2: every single time. It's exactly what happened to the Celtics

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Speaker 3: Did not work no, I know. I mean, the Celtics

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what about the blame on Gordon Hayward in this game.

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Speaker 3: Lee. Was this a disappointing Celtics season? You know, they

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Speaker 3: I mean they were the favorite in this conference finals for.

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Speaker 4: The first time, Yes they were, and so going into

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Speaker 3: So you're sort of looking at them, like we talked

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Speaker 2: I think it's a bit of a disappointing ending, especially

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Speaker 2: end up happening with the Sixers, but they're still a

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00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,320
Speaker 2: competitive team, and obviously the Heat still going to be

432
00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,679
Speaker 2: in the Eastern Conference. Things were set up perfectly for

433
00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,960
Speaker 2: the Celtics to get to the finals yere, especially considering

434
00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,359
Speaker 2: they have been to the conference finals. The next step

435
00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,600
Speaker 2: is going to the finals. They should have made it there,

436
00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,560
Speaker 2: and I think that the only place you're really looking

437
00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,679
Speaker 2: at upgrading is in the interior. We saw Bam running

438
00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,840
Speaker 2: wild in the games that the Heat won, and that

439
00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,400
Speaker 2: was a criticism of the Celtics coming into the year.

440
00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,480
Speaker 2: They're a little weak inside. They lost Baines, they lost Horford.

441
00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,639
Speaker 2: Those were two big pieces for them in the past,

442
00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,199
Speaker 2: and without those guys there, it was kind of a

443
00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,720
Speaker 2: matter of Steven's doing a good job getting performances from

444
00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:45,040
Speaker 2: Tyson even Enis Canter. In this series. You know, Robert

445
00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,240
Speaker 2: Williams had some moments against the Raptors. He had some

446
00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,720
Speaker 2: decent moments against the heat as well. There are talented players,

447
00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,760
Speaker 2: but not a reliable guy. You're going to stick out

448
00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,600
Speaker 2: there as your fifth guy every single time. They spend

449
00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,440
Speaker 2: a lot of money on the perimeter, all of their

450
00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,359
Speaker 2: big contracts or guys on the perimeter. But you're not

451
00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,679
Speaker 2: giving up tATu, You're not giving up Brown. Gordon Hayward

452
00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,679
Speaker 2: and Brad Stevens are obviously buddies. Marcus Smart doesn't make

453
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,080
Speaker 2: a ton of money and he's kind of the heart

454
00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,240
Speaker 2: and soul of your team. So how do you improve

455
00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,880
Speaker 2: You got to hope for internal development or a little

456
00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,200
Speaker 2: bit of a shakeup. Maybe you trade Kyrie Irving again.

457
00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,359
Speaker 2: He was the problem last year, right, don't think so

458
00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,439
Speaker 2: this year? Don't think so? This year? Would have been

459
00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,560
Speaker 2: nice to have a fourth quarter guy, I don't know,

460
00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,919
Speaker 2: could have been Tatum, but it wasn't. You have to

461
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,919
Speaker 2: think this is a stepping stone, but Celtics keep stepping

462
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:27,680
Speaker 2: to the same stone. You gotta go to the next

463
00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:28,320
Speaker 2: one eventually.

464
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Speaker 1: What do you think, Tess, Well, it's kind of on Tatum.

465
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Speaker 1: I think to be just a little bit better of

466
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Speaker 1: a player. I think that's what it comes down to.

467
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Speaker 3: If which is fine, and it's probably gonna happen, right,

468
00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:41,919
Speaker 3: you just assume.

469
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Speaker 1: So he's still really young, even though he's been around

470
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,960
Speaker 1: and been to another conference finals. This was his first

471
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Speaker 1: conference finals as a number one guy, as a star,

472
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Speaker 1: and so at twenty two years of age, you know,

473
00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:59,359
Speaker 1: it's hard to really judge him, like like put this

474
00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 1: this series as his as the series that makes or

475
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 1: breaks him, as the series that creates his his aura

476
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 1: or who he is. He's just he's super young. And

477
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,480
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler on the other side, as the quote unquote star,

478
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,280
Speaker 1: wasn't anything close to what Jason Tatum was even scoring

479
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,639
Speaker 1: the ball, but he got everybody else involved, and so

480
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 1: it's it's up to Tatum to just elevate his team

481
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 1: a little bit more. You know. He he elevated to

482
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Speaker 1: a different level in January and February and everybody was

483
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:34,679
Speaker 1: discussing whether or not he could be, yeah, a superstar player.

484
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 1: And so this is his first playoffs and he did

485
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,399
Speaker 1: not excel. Let's be honest, he absolutely didn't live up

486
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 1: to that potential. But there's time. Yeah, I think, sure,

487
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,639
Speaker 1: it would be nice to have another five. It'd be

488
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 1: nice to have a Like I said earlier in the series,

489
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Speaker 1: it'd be nice to have a bam at Abayou in

490
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 1: the middle for them to create. But at the same time,

491
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Speaker 1: it can't just be on you know this, this was

492
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Speaker 1: our whole that we had. I think the guys on

493
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 1: the perimeter could have been better as well. They it

494
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 1: was disappointing for them. I'm sure when they look back

495
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 1: at it, they'll they'll be disappointed.

496
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And the truth is, when Bam plays like that,

497
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 3: I'm hard pressed to think of many teams, many centers,

498
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,880
Speaker 3: you know, many interiors that are gonna really slow down

499
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,360
Speaker 3: a guy like this. This guy is, this guy is special.

500
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 3: It's cool to see him have that bounce back game

501
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 3: from game five. We're tice. We talked about it. He

502
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 3: did oh play him and that's why it was shocking.

503
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 3: It was like, wow, he actually maybe had a better

504
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,679
Speaker 3: game than Bam. And of course he had the injuries

505
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,160
Speaker 3: with his arm and it was hanging off his body

506
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 3: and stuff like that, but what a performance. The guy's

507
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 3: like I don't even know how to describe him. He

508
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 3: has like he's like a young serge of Baka, but

509
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 3: with like Draymond Green like sort of skills.

510
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,359
Speaker 2: Like play better than a Bacca ever was Yeah, I know, no,

511
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 2: I know, but he's.

512
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Speaker 4: Got the power of a young Amari in some ways,

513
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 4: but he's got way more court vision thought, because that's

514
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 4: the thing again, as I mentioned earlier, off the top

515
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,399
Speaker 4: day when he had scored and the pressure came on

516
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,399
Speaker 4: him defensively, he made incredible past to Jimmy Butler in

517
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 4: the pint and then hint Duncan Romson a couple of times.

518
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 4: So you know, he's got that awareness and that vision

519
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 4: and his playmaking ability is incredible. So you know, I mean,

520
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 4: now he goes up against the Lakers in the series.

521
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 4: I know we're going to get to it, but you

522
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 4: look at that front line of who the Lakers can

523
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 4: throw at him, two big, big bodies, so it's going

524
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 4: to be certainly tough for him. But yeah, he's also

525
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 4: going to be a tough match up for them on

526
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 4: the defensive end. So I'm very, very excited for that.

527
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 4: But you know, this is the thing with the heat

528
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 4: as well. When you look at these players, you know,

529
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 4: like Robinson and Tyler, Hero and bam Adda Bayer.

530
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Speaker 3: Not a lot of fanfare about.

531
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Speaker 4: Any of these guys really, but then they get to

532
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 4: the playoffs and they're just ready and they're prepared, and

533
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,679
Speaker 4: that development that you go through in Miami is just

534
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 4: you know, we always talk about the Spurs developing players,

535
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 4: but the Miami Heat as well.

536
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 3: You want to talk about Heat culture, is that you want.

537
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 4: To I just I mean, like, you know, they have

538
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,640
Speaker 4: that reputation for not wanting to tank. I'm not sure

539
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 4: that's entirely true. There's been a few times where they've

540
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 4: probably thrown a game or two. But listen, pat Riley,

541
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 4: it sort of starts at the top and that leadership

542
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 4: and they what they expect from me, and they will

543
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 4: give you a chance and not everything out because look

544
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 4: at Dion Wader's it didn't work out there and they've

545
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 4: moved on from him, but they gave him the opportunity.

546
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 4: They gave him a big contract when Dan Waders was

547
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 4: basically out of the league and it didn't work, so

548
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 4: they move on. And then you know guys like Justice Winslow,

549
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 4: who was a high draft pick and he's gone as well.

550
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 4: Now he's a good player, and they had to facilitate

551
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 4: the Iguidala trade to get him in there. But so

552
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 4: not everything works for Miami, but if you do work out,

553
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 4: the results are out there to be seen for everyone.

554
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 4: And I mean Tyler Hero, like again last night, hit

555
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 4: that big three to bring him back into it, and

556
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 4: then hit another pull up two pointer in the paint

557
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 4: there when he had I think it was Marcus Smarter.

558
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 4: He blew by Marcus Smart and that's Marcus Smart is

559
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 4: an incredible defender and Brown was on him a couple

560
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,719
Speaker 4: of times as well, and Tyler Hero just didn't get phazed.

561
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 3: That.

562
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 4: That to me is just remarkable. Now, that's not just

563
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 4: all the culture that, Like, Tyler Hero has only been

564
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 4: there for a year, not even a year, so how

565
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 4: much impact could they really have. He's just a great player.

566
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 4: But still, Eric Bolster trust you if you're out on

567
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 4: the court, he trusts you and uh and he expects

568
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 4: you to deliver, and I mean everyone doesn't. And again,

569
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 4: you guys mentioned there with Goran Dragic like no ego

570
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 4: at all, you know what, nine minutes to go in

571
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 4: a close that game, he's on the bench, he's cheering

572
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 4: on his teammates, he's doing everything. That to me is

573
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 4: also a sign of just how solid that locker room is.

574
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 4: That they're there to win. No one cares who does

575
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 4: it or how they get it done. As long as

576
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 4: they advance.

577
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, they got that collective unit. Like even like Derek

578
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 3: Jones Junior was playing a lot, you know, in this

579
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 3: bubble and series. Even then he's gone. Kendrick Gunn of course,

580
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,719
Speaker 3: you know, was starting for the mole season and now

581
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 3: there was some injury instances in COVID and a guy

582
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 3: get all that and he's out of the string and

583
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 3: he don't even play. Solomon Hill's out of nowhere and

584
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 3: looking like it came from the future somehow, and he'd

585
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 3: been seen some things like, yeah, you're right. It is

586
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 3: such like they've bought into to that identity of this team.

587
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 3: The Heat culture gets joked about a lot, but it's

588
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,199
Speaker 3: true and I do like it. It's I mean, it's

589
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 3: almost a perfect storm for a team built like the Heat,

590
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 3: with that identity to be in a bubble situation. Has

591
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 3: them talked about it like we were built for this. Oh,

592
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 3: you're gonna hold us up in a hotel for five

593
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 3: months together and then go to war every second night.

594
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 3: Oh we could do that. We would actually enjoy that.

595
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 3: And we talked about like the clutch scoring. I sort

596
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 3: of like that as well, because all we talk about

597
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 3: the Heat is like they're better conditioned than every team.

598
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 3: They obviously have the zone defense that you have to

599
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 3: have to have a ton of energy and trust in

600
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 3: each other, and as the game went on a lot

601
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 3: of times in this series, they got better while other

602
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 3: teams started to falter. And you know, you could say

603
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 3: a little bit maybe it's conditioning is helping in that

604
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 3: instance where they're and then all the bodies they can

605
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 3: throw out there too that they're a little fresher and

606
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:24,959
Speaker 3: a little more locked in. So I just like how

607
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 3: that all sort of lined up perfectly. I'm also very

608
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 3: excited for this finals. Look, Celtics Lakers would have been great,

609
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 3: you know, the two storied franchises. We've seen it before

610
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 3: a decade ago. But this is exciting in a weird

611
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 3: in a weird way. I know there are storylines and

612
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,439
Speaker 3: we're gonna do our finals preview tomorrow, but it's just

613
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 3: like it's sort of cool that it's like an odd pairing.

614
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 3: I guess for some reason, Lakers heat, even though those

615
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 3: two teams have been to a good chunk of finals.

616
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 2: Right, That's what I was gonna say, is that, yeah,

617
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 2: expected to see Lakers heat all the time.

618
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 3: The Heat's a fifth seed in a weird bubble environment,

619
00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 3: and I guess a lot of us didn't have them

620
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 3: go into the finals, and here they are, and then

621
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 3: they look like they're gonna be the best team the

622
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 3: Lakers will have played throughout their entire bubble run here

623
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,719
Speaker 3: playoff run. I think that adds up to some element

624
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 3: of it as well. Excuse me, I can't.

625
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 2: Talk, no doubt. And there's so much history obviously with

626
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 2: Lebron and the Heat, Lebron versus Jimmy Butler, it's going

627
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 2: to be super exciting, but it is still the Lakers

628
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 2: in the Heat. I feel like we've seen these two

629
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 2: teams in the finals since we've been watching basketball. I

630
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 2: know that the Lakers and Heat fans like to make

631
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 2: it out like they've had a really tough time lately.

632
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 3: You know.

633
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 2: The Lakers were like, it's been a rough decade. Yeah,

634
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 2: it must suck for you. Even worse, the Heat were like,

635
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 2: it's been a rough six years. Six years, you haven't

636
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 2: been to the finals? Are you kidding me?

637
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: Yeah? When I see all the headlines of the Miami

638
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 1: Heat haven't been in the final since twenty fourteen. Oh,

639
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: it's a long time, really long time. Yeah, for like

640
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: one team. I mean, it's like, how many teams have

641
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: been to the finals more recently than that, I mean,

642
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, okay, so the Reps, Warriors, the Calves,

643
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 1: the Spurs were there in twenty fourteen, anybody else.

644
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 3: It's like it, you got it, that's it, that's it. Okay.

645
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Speaker 3: But here's what's nice about this. I do feel like

646
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 3: I've already seen because people have started up the predictions,

647
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 3: the preview podcasts, all the articles already. It doesn't take long.

648
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 3: It's like ten minutes, you know, the Eastern Conference Finals

649
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 3: wraps up and people are onto the next series. Respect

650
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 3: the hustle. I'm seeing a lot of like Lakers in

651
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 3: six or seven, you know, Heat in six or seven.

652
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 3: So it's a nice like a lot of the times,

653
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 3: let's be honest, mainly because of the Warriors were in

654
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,199
Speaker 3: the mix, there a lot. There was a lot of

655
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 3: similar predictions. It was like Warriors in x X games

656
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 3: or whatever, and like not a lot of other team

657
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 3: people picking the other team. This it feels a little

658
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 3: more evenly balanced herely. And maybe a part of that

659
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 3: is the weird bubble setting too.

660
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 4: I think absolutely that plies into it, because you know,

661
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 4: the home quote advantage isn't there. And I think the

662
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 4: hate with the Jimmy Butlers story about you know, like

663
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna because of all the other teams that

664
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 4: have given up on him, and now he's got to

665
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 4: this team to the situation, which is what he kind

666
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 4: of always promised those other teams, and now he's actually

667
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 4: delivering for the Miami Heat. So I think the Neutrals

668
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 4: are probably going to go towards the Heat too for

669
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 4: this one, I think because it's the Lakers, so sure,

670
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 4: you know, I think, I mean, and that's what would

671
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 4: have made it fascinating if it was Lakers Celtics, Like

672
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 4: where do the Neutrals go there? Because you know, they

673
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 4: tend to either be the most annoying fans in the

674
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 4: world if you don't like them. But Miami Heat have

675
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 4: got that kind of like, well, we can't have the

676
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 4: Lakers win, you know, the Heat have got to go

677
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 4: out there and win it.

678
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 3: So it's fascinating.

679
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 4: I'm really not sure exactly which way I'm going to

680
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 4: go yet, which is great. We're going to have our

681
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 4: podcast tomorrow, our preview and think about it. But it's

682
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 4: certainly Jimmy Butler is certainly earning that or living up

683
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 4: to that reputation of like being a bit of a

684
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 4: bit of a dick, but he delivers on the results.

685
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 4: And I mean, honestly, is he a dick anymore?

686
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 2: Because to me, it seems like the heat said Jimmy

687
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: has been saying for his entire year or his entire career,

688
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 2: I want to work hard and be the man. The

689
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 2: first franchise that said all right, you're the man, He's like, great,

690
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 2: I'll be the best teammate in the league, and lots is.

691
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he's been a fun dick anyway down there.

692
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 4: Whereas you know, the reputation when he left Chicago was

693
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 4: basically like you know, he was he was a malcontent, you.

694
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 2: Know, like Chicago left Chicago, they traded him away two

695
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 2: years before his contract was up there.

696
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 4: A little bitter, and then in Minnesota was basically like

697
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 4: I'm just not playing for you anymore, so trade me.

698
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 4: And he goes to Philadelphia and it's like he hit

699
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 4: I think he hit two games when he was in

700
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 4: his first three games or something in Philadelphia there and

701
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 4: it was like Okay, this is what they need and

702
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 4: they're like, no, we'll take Tobias Harris instead. So you

703
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 4: know Jimmy. Jimmy's a fun guy to root for though

704
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 4: right now, because he's got the Big Face coffee, he's

705
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 4: in love with his teammates, and he's really just shutting

706
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 4: up any of the haters out there. So it's a

707
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,239
Speaker 4: great story. But will they be able to go all

708
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 4: the way?

709
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Speaker 3: I mean, wow, what a.

710
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 4: Story that would be if they were to pulled this off.

711
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 4: We'll see.

712
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 3: It's been a I'm sure you read the article that

713
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 3: there's now a competition with Big Face Coffee. There's Little

714
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 3: Face Coffee. It's a heat athletic trainer has started up

715
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 3: his own business five dollars a cup. So I mean

716
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 3: I help tensions boil over. Yeah, well it's to see

717
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 3: when I get taken out of something. I mean trying

718
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 3: to want to cut Jimmy Butler. He's an opening in

719
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 3: the market.

720
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 2: Lead.

721
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 3: Not everybody wants to pay twenty dollars for a cup

722
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 3: of coffee, but there's a lot of employees on the

723
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 3: Heat who are not multi millionaires.

724
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 2: They're going to Little Face Coffee. Seems like there's also

725
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 2: an opportunity for a medium face coffee.

726
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 3: There charge ten to twelve bucks a cup.

727
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 4: But doesn't Jimmy sell small medium logic just sells it

728
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 4: all for twenty bucks.

729
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 3: Then matter correct? So then bam did say that two

730
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 3: smalls cost you fifty dollars, So I don't know how

731
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 3: that works. Racket?

732
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 2: What a racket?

733
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 3: Yeah? Hey, look good bubble too. For Mikeelobultra. With all

734
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 3: these Jimmy Butler commercials, right, I mean, he's sort of

735
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 3: their brand guy. There's like three or four of them

736
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 3: you see every game, different ones, or there was at

737
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 3: the beginning him packing. Now there's this one where that

738
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 3: guy just you know, is in his hotel room tidying

739
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 3: up his cowboy boots and then watching him on the street. Hey,

740
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 3: they're laughing. Mikeelobultra attaching their their brand, their beer to

741
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler and here he is in the finals. What

742
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 3: a call that one was? Who were called that one?

743
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 3: Unbelievable work there again. We'll do our NBA Finals Premium

744
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 3: predictions on tomorrow show. We'll talk about, you know, keys

745
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 3: to watching this series. Obviously make our picks X factors,

746
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 3: you know, maybe some silly predictions as well. That tips

747
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 3: off Wednesday night, Game one of the NBA Finals Lakers heat,

748
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 3: but we'll have that up on Tuesday. Anything to add

749
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 3: from this game here in the Eastern Conference Finals or

750
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 3: the Celtics.

751
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 4: What you got we sort of brushed over a little bit,

752
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 4: but Andre Gudalla's performance last year was just unbelievable. He

753
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 4: was two for ten from three going into that game

754
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 4: last night, and I think I said on the last

755
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 4: series like he's been awful for them even though he's

756
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 4: out there for his veteran presence, and last night he

757
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 4: shut me up. I mean, just incredible that three point

758
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 4: shooting four for four, it got another one late as well,

759
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 4: hit some free throws. I mean that is why they

760
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 4: got him, for that sort of a performance.

761
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 3: And again and to play Lebron James. If they got finals, well.

762
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 4: That's its six straight finals appearances for Andregdala, which is

763
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 4: an incredible performance. But you know the thing again coming

764
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 4: back to I think Eric Spolster is like, even though

765
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 4: he could see Iggy wasn't shooting the ball well was performing.

766
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 4: He's there because of his experience and he trusts him

767
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 4: to go out there and deliver and because I mean,

768
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 4: we talk about the Celtics three point shooting and they

769
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 4: were missing a lot, and then a guy like Iggy,

770
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 4: who's been as cold as anybody, just goes out there

771
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 4: and hits huge ones, timely ones, and also didn't sort

772
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 4: of get the hot hand going at any point where

773
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 4: he's like, we get a heat check going where he's

774
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,719
Speaker 4: just gonna start firing away. He took them when they

775
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 4: needed the heat to take them, and just a remarkable

776
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 4: performance performance.

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00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 3: That's when the Celtics were sort of screwed because they're like, hey,

778
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 3: there's one guy out here we can finally leave. Yeah,

779
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 3: like leave him, don't worry about him, you know. And

780
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 3: then he's the guy, yeah knocking down four or five.

781
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,479
Speaker 3: You're you're in You're in trouble when because he got

782
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 3: all these other shooters and Hero and Robinson even Butler

783
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 3: of course, and dragons when he plays you know, BAM's

784
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 3: not shooting the three. But we talked about him being

785
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 3: a terror inside and setting up all these guys like, oh, yeah,

786
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 3: we can leave Iguadolla and yeah you could it in

787
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 3: game six and he was he was special and you're right,

788
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 3: we will get into all that. You know, his sixth

789
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:00,959
Speaker 3: final is going to take on Lebron again. How many

790
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 3: times will this be him playing Lebron in the finals

791
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 3: at least the fifth time. Yeah, cheez, I was gonna

792
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 3: say fourth, Yeah, the fifth time. Crazy crazy stuff. All right,

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Speaker 2: win the Basketball's Championship.

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Speaker 3: Nobody got in the Basketball's Championship. We haven't done this

822
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 3: in a long time, guys. But I got some rumors

823
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:55,239
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824
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 3: This is what they're talking about, guys. According to Keith

825
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 3: Pompeii of the Philadelphia Inquirer, the seventy six Ers ownership

826
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Speaker 3: group reportedly wants to hire Mike D'Antoni as the franchise's

827
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 3: next head coach. D'Antoni has met with the Sixers for

828
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 3: a first round of interviews, and he would reportedly have

829
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 3: to bomb his second round to not be offered the job.

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Speaker 3: That's a fun visual, just pretending to picture D'Antoni somehow

831
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 3: bombing his second interview, Like I don't know where to

832
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 3: start there, but playing wise, Josey and we're going all quorkmas.

833
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 2: I guess he building the round corkmas or he's like.

834
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, somehow I forgot to put on pants in the

835
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 3: Zoom meeting or something like that. I don't know. Playing wise,

836
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 3: Joel Embiid has given his blessing again according to reports here,

837
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 3: Yes you have, so drey get Us started with this

838
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,919
Speaker 3: NBA rumor. What do you think about D'Antoni, I guess

839
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 3: as the front runner here.

840
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 2: On the surface, definitely seems like an odd fit to

841
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: bring Mike D'Antoni in to coach a team that's built

842
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 2: around a couple of guys who are not great three

843
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 2: point shooters in Simmons and Embiid. Also feels weird to

844
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 2: bring in a coach whose team continually flames out in

845
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 2: the playoffs to a team who continually flames out in

846
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 2: the playoffs.

847
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 3: But I still like it.

848
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 2: He's got history with the team. He was an assistant

849
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 2: head coach there for a season. He is the best

850
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 2: coach available, I would say, and he tends to get

851
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 2: the most out of at least role players. And I

852
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 2: think d'antoni's a little more flexible than he was in

853
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 2: the past, specifically when he was coaching the Lakers and

854
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 2: was trying to play a speed up style with Pyle

855
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,919
Speaker 2: Gasol and it wasn't working. You know, the Rockets still

856
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 2: played a fast pace, but they were pretty slow on

857
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 2: offense when they would get into the half court. And

858
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 2: I just think that he's such a good does such

859
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 2: a good job at creating space in general. He's one

860
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 2: of the architects of space and pace in the league.

861
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 2: Just on a hole that that will help both Simmons

862
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 2: and Embiid if he's able to figure out a way

863
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 2: to generate space for those players, because both of them

864
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 2: need a little more room there inside at the rim.

865
00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 2: Seventy six Ers aren't a huge pick and roll team,

866
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 2: Mike D'Antoni. Teams generally are, so maybe that's just the change.

867
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 2: Put Simmons in and beat in the pick and roll

868
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,479
Speaker 2: and let teams figure out how they're going to play.

869
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 2: But the thing that's super worrying to me, Skeets you

870
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 2: mentioned it is that ownership is saying we want Mike D'Antoni,

871
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 2: which is because the seventy six Ers have an absolutely

872
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 2: brutal front office now that the Kings and the Bulls

873
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: have been remaking theirs the Knicks as well. We'll see

874
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 2: how it turns out. The Sixers are up there for

875
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 2: one of the worst front offices in the league. They

876
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 2: would have been better off if Elton Brand had done

877
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 2: nothing since he took over. But basically, the owners are

878
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 2: coming in saying we want Mike D'Antoni, So we're probably

879
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 2: gonna have Mike D'Antoni. When the ownership's making the calls,

880
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 2: it's usually pretty bad.

881
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a little confusion over who is calling the

882
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 3: shots here because it looked like Tylou is the front

883
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 3: runner there when Brett Brown was let go in late August,

884
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 3: and now you know he's had interviews, but maybe he's

885
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 3: only talked to Brand, And yeah, the rest of the

886
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 3: ownership is obviously hell bent on getting D'Antoni. By reports,

887
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 3: it is a little weird here, Lee, What do you

888
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 3: think about this rumor?

889
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 4: The biggest the problem for the Sixers this year was

890
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 4: their offense was just ugly to watch, and Mike D'Antoni

891
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 4: should be able to smooth things out a little bit.

892
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 4: And exactly how he does that, I'm not sure, but

893
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 4: he has a reputation and a record of doing that

894
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 4: with teams, so you know, they'll probably find some shooters

895
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 4: off the scrap heap as well. They'll throw out there

896
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 4: will have career seasons.

897
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 3: Obviously.

898
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 4: The two big, two big players are Embiid and Simmons,

899
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 4: and can he get those guys to click on offense,

900
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 4: because if he can, then I think the Sixers are

901
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 4: a very very dangerous team because defensively, I think they're

902
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 4: going to be fine no matter what. D'Antoni doesn't really

903
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 4: care about defense anyway, So he's got two players who

904
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 4: can play dems. They've got a good defensive team. But

905
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 4: if he can just figure out a way to get

906
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 4: that offense flowing, then then the sky's the limit really

907
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 4: for Philadelphi because they've got great young players. If they

908
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 4: can stay healthy and stay on the floor, they're going

909
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 4: to be good. So yeah, I'd be happy if I

910
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 4: was a Sixers fan. If you get D'Antoni, I think

911
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 4: it's a good move and I think I think he

912
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 4: will at least make things a little bit better for

913
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 4: them on the offensive end, because that's his specialty and

914
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 4: you've got players who've got the talent. Now, now, what

915
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 4: is going to happen with Ben Simmons? Is he going

916
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 4: to become a three point shooter under Mike d'ante And

917
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 4: if he could do that, then like D'Antoni give him

918
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 4: Coach of the Year for exactly Yeah. But I mean

919
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 4: I expect d'antoni's gonna say to him, like, listen, in

920
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 4: my offense, you're gonna what you're gonna get three, so

921
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 4: you may as well start shooting him and uh and

922
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 4: try to get better at them if you can. So yeah,

923
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 4: I like it. I think if you're Philadelphia, it's like, yep,

924
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 4: we gotta we've gotta get our offense figured out because

925
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 4: this is a team with a lot of talent. They've

926
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 4: come up short now the last couple of seasons, and

927
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 4: we get into that point, you know, will they move

928
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 4: on from Simmons and embat if things don't work out.

929
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 4: I mean that that's gonna be there.

930
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 3: I think we've we're at that sort of now, but

931
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 3: we've talked about I guess a new coach gets a chance,

932
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 3: get a crash, and maybe it's D'Antoni. Here you go,

933
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 3: here's Embat and Simmons, here's the rest of your roster,

934
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 3: and you might have some input and the new players

935
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 3: coming in and like the guy's talked about, try and

936
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 3: get you some shooting, uh, you know, pick him up

937
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 3: buff overseas or wherever and have your go at it.

938
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 3: And if it doesn't work, then we might have to

939
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 3: move on from one of them. But what do you

940
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 3: think about D'Antoni as a potential Sixers coach.

941
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: Listen from our perspective, it's exciting to have D'Antoni in

942
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 1: there because, yeah, he should chance the offense. And I

943
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: don't think he's going to make Ben Simmons into anything

944
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: close to a three point shooter. We saw Russell Westbrook

945
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: in Houston. A guy's job was to create and get

946
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: into the paint. That's going to be Ben Simmons' job.

947
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: I think Joelanbiad's gonna love it because he's gonna be

948
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: able to shoot threes as much as he wants.

949
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a little worrisome to me.

950
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: Yeah it is, It definitely is. But at the same time,

951
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: if he gets role players to play to their potential.

952
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 1: Around those guys, it should be a good offense. And

953
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: even though he doesn't quote unquote like defense or he

954
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: doesn't give a crap about defense, his team in the

955
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 1: bubble was playing some hard defense and they were getting by.

956
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: But now they've got a Joel Embiid in the middle

957
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: to suck up rebounds and to be a a rim presence.

958
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 1: So hey, this is it's Yeah, they definitely have underachieved,

959
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: and it's not the most I don't know, even if

960
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: it's Mike D'Antoni. I guess it's not the most sexy

961
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: signing right now. I guess just because everybody's sort of

962
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 1: down on the Sixers. But Elton brand was on the

963
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: roster when Mike D'Antoni was an assistant coach there four

964
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 1: years ago, and so maybe they love each other when

965
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: they were ten and seventy two back in the process days.

966
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: So hey, I don't know. Maybe maybe Mike D'Antoni can

967
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: turn it around. It's D'Antoni, I believe, we should believe.

968
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 3: Keith Pompei in that article said d'antoni's plan would be

969
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 3: to move Tobias Harris back to power forward. That would

970
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 3: be one little thing that he would, I guess, implement,

971
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 3: and the Sixers would also make trades if d'antoni's hired,

972
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 3: according to reports, and then the expectation is that D'Antoni

973
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 3: would have a say in picking some of those players

974
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 3: for his style of play. It's interesting. I wonder, you know,

975
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 3: this whole dwell and bed thing, we didn't talk about

976
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 3: it a ton him like cheering on Jimmy Butler here

977
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 3: throughout the playoff run, you know, really leaning into that now.

978
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 3: Was he doing that as part of some Mountain Dew

979
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 3: viral marketing? I don't know, But I'm just fascinated with

980
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 3: his relationship with the Sixers, Joel Embiid specifically, and whether

981
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 3: he what they think of him still and what he

982
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 3: thinks of them, and if they were to make a move.

983
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 3: I do think it's Embiid that that gets traded before

984
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 3: Ben Simmons my personal opinion.

985
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, I're asking him for his blessing about the car,

986
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 2: That's right, That's right.

987
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 3: Well yeah, again, this worries me though, this whole Embiid

988
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 3: gives it a blessing because he's like, oh sweet, I

989
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 3: can just jack three's in d'antoni's system. I don't want

990
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 3: to post up anymore. It's like, again, maybe that works that.

991
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 2: I don't know.

992
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 3: I'm a little concerned about that. Final little bonus rumor

993
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 3: to add to this, John Clark of NBC Sports he

994
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 3: reported that D'Antoni could be able to lure James Harden

995
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 3: to Philadelphia as either a free agent in two years

996
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 3: or as part of a trade too. So hey, maybe

997
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 3: there's an embiid for hardened trade in the hooks. Yeah,

998
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 3: just says no? Who says no? Alright, one more rumor here.

999
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,919
Speaker 3: You know it's a team, I'll be honest, A team.

1000
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 3: I've forgotten about it. I forgot this team was in

1001
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 3: the NBA. But I got a little couple of piece

1002
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 3: of info here. For with the Calves. The Calves big

1003
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 3: man Andre Drummond is likely to exercise his player option

1004
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 3: for next season, worth about twenty nine million dollars. This

1005
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 3: is according to Chris Fador of Cleveland dot Com. The

1006
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 3: big Penguin is not currently attending the Calves voluntary workouts,

1007
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 3: although he guess he's remained engaged with the team. He's

1008
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 3: checking in on Zoom Calves GM. Kobe Altman also said

1009
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 3: there's mutual interest in Cleveland re signing Tristan Thompson. There's

1010
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 3: a guy I'd forgotten about too. He's an unrestricted free agent.

1011
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 3: So a couple of Calves rumors there, Drummond, Tristan Thompson.

1012
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 3: He's laughing, So I'm gonna skip him and go right

1013
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 3: to you, Trey. What do you think of this Cleveland Cavaliers.

1014
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 3: I haven't heard that. What Andre Drummond? Yes, I remember him.

1015
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 2: He was traded for a bag of beans way back

1016
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,959
Speaker 2: in February, and that's the last time I thought about

1017
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 2: the Calves. Of course, he's gonna pick up his twenty

1018
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 2: nine million dollar option.

1019
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 3: Everybody knew that. The only other Caves I didn't think so.

1020
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 3: I all season, long before we had the ending of

1021
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,439
Speaker 3: a pandemic, I didn't think that was going to happen.

1022
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 3: I could. I thought he was going to be the

1023
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 3: biggest name available in free agency, and if he was

1024
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 3: gonna be able to walk in like a you know,

1025
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 3: a four for ninety or a four for us, that

1026
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 3: he might do that. But I was wrong.

1027
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 2: You're right y now, it's like four for ninety that's

1028
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 2: less than twenty nine per year, So I don't know

1029
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 2: he should take it. He's not that good. He can rebound,

1030
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 2: he can be big out there, but Andre Drummond isn't

1031
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 2: helping anybody win basketball games.

1032
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 3: I don't think.

1033
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 2: The only other Calves takes I have are Colin Sexton

1034
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 2: is apparently putting on a whole bunch of muscle. They

1035
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 2: keep showing these pictures of him. People are telling me

1036
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 2: this guy is jacked, and I let him like, I

1037
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 2: don't know. He looks like he's got some new shoulders

1038
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 2: a little bit, but he doesn't look humong us. The

1039
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: other one was Tristan Thompson. You mentioned it's a rumor

1040
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 2: they want to bring him back a little connection to

1041
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 2: the Calves championship. We had that question on Beach step

1042
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 2: in last week. Who's a role player you believe in

1043
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 2: that could have another moment in the playoffs? And Tristan

1044
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 2: Thompson is that guy for me. He's still pretty young, right, he's.

1045
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 3: Twenty nine years old. He's not even it.

1046
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 2: I can he was. He was a game changer in

1047
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 2: the playoffs. I mean four years ago scenes recently, but

1048
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 2: in the NBA four years can be a long time.

1049
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 2: I imagine he could have like a quarter where he

1050
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 2: gets four rebounds in the playoffs and really turns the tide.

1051
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 2: Somebody give Tristan Thompson a chance. He doesn't need a

1052
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 2: big contract, but whatever. Yeah, I agree with that. I

1053
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 2: could see a Dwight Howard moment where he grabs four

1054
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 2: rebounds put backs right there in the corner, changes the tide. Yeah.

1055
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 3: I couldn't believe he was twenty nine. That's crazy. I

1056
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 3: thought he was thirty six years old. But what is

1057
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 3: that possible? But uh, a task, anything to add to

1058
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 3: the calves juicy Cavs rumors.

1059
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: Joe's were juicy, Well, uh yeah, I'm a Tristan Thompson fan.

1060
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 1: Get him now before he turns thirty and isn't able

1061
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: to do the offensive rebounding and play in space. But

1062
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: in an era where it's all about shooting, sometimes that's

1063
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: all you ask for, you know. All we're asking at

1064
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: Dwight Howard is to rim, run and play d and

1065
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: Tristan Thompson's done that for an NBA championship team, So

1066
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: who knows. And the Big Penguin is still a nickname

1067
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: from Andre Drummond. I'm done with that, absolutely done with that.

1068
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Speaker 1: It's not a good nickname in the first place, and

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00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: a guy that we barely talk about. Unfortunately, if Andre

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00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 1: Drummond comes back and has a big year, then we

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00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: can nickname him. But at this point, sorry, Nick nameless

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00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 1: at this point except if we're talking hair, we're talking

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00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: oh yeah, their hair, Yeah yeah, right right right.

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00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 3: Hair off the shoulders as we always talk about Drummond.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: Ah, yeah, tough. Tough to be a Cavs fan right now.

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00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 3: But hey, they went to a lot of finals over

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00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 3: the last little while, right, so they sure did. Can't

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00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 3: complain at all. You have nothing to complain about. And Lee,

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00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 3: I mean you laughed when I brought it up. I

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00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 3: guess you have nothing to add.

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Speaker 4: Well, look, contre Drummond and Tristan Thompson, it's not like

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00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 4: it's a front court of big dudes who can grab

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00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 4: a lot of rebounds. But I mean, it's just the

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00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,479
Speaker 4: way the game is played now. It's like, you don't

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00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 4: you just kind of have those two guys out they're

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00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 4: playing really together, can you?

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00:47:58,800 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 2: So you know they have.

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00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, hey, Lee, who coaches Lee who coaches

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00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 3: the Cats.

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00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 4: Bline? Who does coach them?

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00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 3: Sorry it Bernie, bigger stuff, that's bigger stuff.

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00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, you didn't really know JB. Beaker stuff.

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00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 3: That's yeah, Like I'll be honest. I'll be honest.

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Speaker 4: You know, we've covered this league now for a lot

1096
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 4: of years, and a couple of teams you slip under

1097
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 4: the radar and out again, and I'm not tuning into

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00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 4: what a lot of calves game.

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00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 3: Well, you might be tuning in to see this new

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00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 3: body on sext and I guess you loving arms and

1101
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 3: his shoulders and so if this guy's Jack, you gotta

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00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 3: tune in.

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00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,479
Speaker 4: I will for that, I mean for immediate day. That'll

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00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 4: be great to see what it's really like.

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00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 3: Hashtrag muscle watch. Yeah, sure, all right, we call it there.

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00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,879
Speaker 3: Nice to have rumors back in our lives. Okay, task

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00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 3: time for tweet of the night.

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Speaker 1: Tweet over the night.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: This tweet of the night comes from former Ohio basketball

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00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 1: player Mark Titus and current Ringer writer and podcaster. Now,

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00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 1: he was commenting on Duncan Robinson, the Miami heat Guard.

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00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: This comment, this text came from Duncan Robinson when he

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00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: was a senior as a Michigan Wolverine. So listen to

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00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: what Mark Titus relayed from that text. Got this text

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00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: out of the blue three years ago, hopped on the

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00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: phone a couple days later and talked for an hour

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00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: about getting into sports media because Duncan thought his basketball

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00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: career was winding down. Three years later, he's about to

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Speaker 1: start in the NBA Finals. What a world, and the

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00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: text from Duncan Robinson reads like this, Hey, Mark, my

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00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 1: name is Duncan Robinson and I'm a senior on the

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00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: men's basketball team at Michigan. I'm reaching out to you

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00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: because for one of my classes, we're asked to connect

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00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: with somebody in the industry that we're interested in. I'm

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00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: a big fan of The Ringer and specifically your work.

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00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: Was wondering if you would have some time to connect

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00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 1: so I could potentially learn more about your role as

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00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: a staff writer and the Ringer in general. Hope all

1130
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 1: is well with you. Wild a senior at Michigan. Three

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00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 1: years later, now he's Ballard. Now my question is is

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00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: it It's obviously great content. People are very excited. But

1133
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: Duncan Robinson's on top of the world right now, so

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00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: it's not a big deal sharing a text, a private text.

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00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,439
Speaker 1: But the Duncan Robinson approved the sharing of this text

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00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: because we recently had a scenario where Dana White and

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00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: Connor McGregor had a private text chain. Connor McGregor revealed

1138
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: that text chain. Dana White said, you broke the man code,

1139
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 1: as Dana White said, relaxed Dana White. But it's regardless

1140
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: of the dumb name that he assigned to it. They

1141
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: are private messages and maybe Mark Titis revealed something that

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00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: Duncan Rominson didn't want. Duncan Romson probably didn't care if

1143
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: he's a jillionaire, but as a as a matter of principle, yeah,

1144
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 1: just you don't just throw that around.

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00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 3: So well, we don't know. We don't know. Titus didn't

1146
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 3: tweet Duncan back or text scuse me Duncan back and say, hey,

1147
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,919
Speaker 3: I'm going to share this. Probably unlikely, but we don't

1148
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 3: know that for sure, right, yeah, probably not.

1149
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: I mean, he shared it as soon as the fourth

1150
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: quarter expired of Game six of the Eastern Conference Finals.

1151
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:24,760
Speaker 1: I don't think that they exchanged messages earlier this series.

1152
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:29,240
Speaker 1: But anyways, it's a cool moment for Duncan Robinson obviously

1153
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: to go undrafted out of Michigan and now he is.

1154
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 1: He is one of the best three point shooters, if

1155
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: not the best three point shooter in the league right

1156
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: now when it comes down to it, which is bonkers

1157
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:42,879
Speaker 1: in a league with a bunch of great, great three

1158
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: point shooters.

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00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 2: Pretty good comment from mellow Tron in the YouTube chat,

1160
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 2: who says this move by Mark Titus kind of a

1161
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:55,320
Speaker 2: fun dick move there feeling somebody's private text message, but

1162
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 2: it's for a fun reason. Yeah, you gotta wonder what

1163
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 2: Duncan Robinson like it being out there that he started

1164
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,919
Speaker 2: a text message with oh high mark dropping the room

1165
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 2: in a text message, and he's also reaching out to

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00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 2: an Ohio State basketball University of Michigan guy. Honestly shameful

1167
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 2: but impressive stuff from Duncan Robinson. That guy didn't even

1168
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 2: start for Michigan when he played in the championship game.

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00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 2: He was the sixth man of the year. And now

1170
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 2: he's out here doing warm ups, getting on the exercise

1171
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 2: ball and doing interviews with Rachel Nichols starting in the finals.

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00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 3: Wild stuff. Hey Ley, I got a question. When your

1173
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 3: dad would buy you guys ice cream and take you

1174
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 3: to the amusement park, or maybe when he was playing

1175
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 3: ball and going around his back, did you call him

1176
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 3: fun dick?

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00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 4: But yeah, he introduced himself as Dick ellis.

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00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it was just normal for us.

1179
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,439
Speaker 3: You know, your dad's being a real dick.

1180
00:52:58,920 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 2: I know.

1181
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 3: Let's go out there. Let's go in there, as we

1182
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 3: said a couple of times.

1183
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: Now.

1184
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:09,240
Speaker 3: NBA Finals preview and predictions tomorrow Tuesday at Tenny Amy

1185
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,399
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1187
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1188
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 3: after that, talking X factors, keys to the series, and

1189
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,800
Speaker 3: ultimately our predictions for the Lakers Heat, which tips on

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Speaker 3: Wednesday night. So that'll be up tomorrow. On Wednesday, I

1191
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1198
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Speaker 3: school looking. It looks like it's not felt just so

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Speaker 2: think he's got that shirt that sounds like who farted

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Speaker 2: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up,

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Speaker 2: love you guys awesome.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. And remember in the Eastern Conference Finals,

1220
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: the heat we're playing like a team, while the Celtics

1221
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: played a little more like a bunch of solo mon hills.

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Speaker 3: Embrace the day, people, you could.

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Speaker 2: Stay every day.

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Speaker 1: That happy e.

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Speaker 3: It's been so long that you're the one I've waiting for.

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Speaker 1: It's happened already. It's going to be gravy.