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Speaker 1: And That's what You Really Missed with Jenna.

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Speaker 2: And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to and That's what You Really miss podcast. This

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Speaker 3: is a special podcast because we have Samuel Larson.

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Speaker 2: That's right, one of the two winners of season one,

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Speaker 2: of the Glee Projects and duel dual winners. He supremely talented,

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Speaker 2: supremely kind.

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Speaker 3: I always knew he was gonna win. I gotta say

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Speaker 3: I knew he was going to win.

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Speaker 2: I I'm very foggy from that time.

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Speaker 3: I knew he was gonna win.

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Speaker 2: We were ushered in and out of the Glee projects

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Speaker 2: so quickly, that's so true.

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Speaker 3: But I just knew. I knew.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited for everyone to hear his sort of take

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Speaker 2: on coming into the Glee project because I think it

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Speaker 2: was fascinating. Yes, not his first rodeo, you know. I

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Speaker 2: want to interview everyone from the Glee Project because I'm

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Speaker 2: fascinated by this because we knew nothing about it.

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Speaker 4: Really.

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Speaker 1: No, we're only getting the inner working through Damien and

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Speaker 1: Samuel and maybe next one day.

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Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, Okay, without further ado, here is Samuel Larson.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 3: It was good to see at the strike for a second. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: the picket lines.

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Speaker 4: Yes, we had to do our duty, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was really nice. That was like such a

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Speaker 2: good to start off morbid for a second. A lot

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Speaker 2: of times you've gotten together recently, it's not for like

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Speaker 2: good news, and so like to get together for the

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Speaker 2: strike was like a really nice.

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Speaker 3: Positive, corrective experience every part.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, everyone was there. It was cool.

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Speaker 1: Yeause yeah, like give me jobs, let's go back remember us.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's really good to have you.

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Speaker 1: We're so excited to talk to you about all things Glee.

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Speaker 3: How are you.

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Speaker 5: I'm great, I'm fantastic, I'm doing awesome. I'm loving where

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Speaker 5: I'm at in life. How about you guys?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Same, to get to see Jenna every week, which

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Speaker 2: is really nice.

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Speaker 3: Just force with me so we can hang out. Let's

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Speaker 3: get into this.

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Speaker 2: All of this because so we started season three recently

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Speaker 2: rewatching season three, and so you come up and so

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Speaker 2: does Damien, and it was just so lovely seeing both

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Speaker 2: of you come on. And we've talked about it with

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Speaker 2: any new person that comes into the show of how

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Speaker 2: daunting and crazy that must have been. But you were

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Speaker 2: so good and have such a great storyline that first episode.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about before that, how the hell the Glee

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Speaker 2: project happened? What was that journey like?

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Speaker 5: Well, for me, I don't know if you guys remember

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Speaker 5: I had gone up for Chord's role.

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Speaker 2: Yes, did you make a Chord during that? Did you

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Speaker 2: see him at all during that process?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Yeah absolutely? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: There was a they had done some sort of like MySpace,

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Speaker 5: was like, I told my mom about it, and I

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Speaker 5: And she was literally like, here's my camera. You're not

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Speaker 5: allowed to go out until you make this video.

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Speaker 5: Good mom, and she I made the video and there

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Speaker 5: was like some sort of deadline you would hear by

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Speaker 5: and I didn't hear anything, and I was like, see,

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Speaker 2: Fox showing up in the DMS.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like, what are you talking about? I'm right here.

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Speaker 5: So I called the number and I was just like, hey,

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Speaker 4: I'm like Samuel Larson, like, oh my god. They start

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Speaker 4: Sam's a quarterback.

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Speaker 5: And I came in with like dreadlots and like twelve

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Speaker 5: necklaces on and I remember Robert was like, please button

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Speaker 4: Because I was always had that open.

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Speaker 4: I was like, this is not I'm not going to

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Speaker 5: But he didn't call me afterwards and was like there's

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Speaker 5: it was so pissed. I was pissed off. I was like,

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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yes, like I already got that. I already

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Speaker 4: I was like I was this close, and now you

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Speaker 4: I was like really mad and I had like the contract.

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Speaker 5: I was like, I'm not going to do it, and

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Speaker 5: do it, And like the deadline to mail it in

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Speaker 4: So I signed it all and I walked it over.

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Speaker 3: And now did you watch Glee?

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Speaker 1: Like did you watch it consistently or had you just

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Speaker 5: That it was my favorite show I watched it every

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Speaker 5: It blew my mind because it was so camp and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you understood it better than we probably did at

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my comic book is a really great way to

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Speaker 3: Yes, very good, very very Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I knew. I was like I want to get there,

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Speaker 1: Wow, Well, okay, so you did. You did the Glee project.

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Speaker 1: Now what was.

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Speaker 2: What was that?

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Speaker 1: That like, because we talked to Damien about it and

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Speaker 3: Us more about that experience for you.

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Speaker 2: Also, the thing is like Damien beforehand had sort of

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Speaker 5: I don't like acting stuff as a kid, and I

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Speaker 5: I had just done season nine of American Idol, like

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Speaker 2: And I imagine that having that experience or American Idol

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Speaker 4: To just hyper focus. I appreciate that. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I remember we had like the weekends off and we

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Speaker 5: We looked like YouTube interviews with Brian about Glee Project

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Speaker 4: We're like we're getting and right right. It was great.

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Speaker 1: So you enjoyed the experience that because I you know

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Speaker 1: that there were some words that Damien used about, you know,

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Speaker 1: feeling like kind of like a pressure Croockert there. It

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Speaker 1: was very competitive. Everybody really wanted it, Like what was

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Speaker 1: your kind of mindset in it? Because you obviously wanted

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I definitely had a different mentality than everyone else,

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Speaker 5: and it was because of America. American Now really crushed me.

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Speaker 5: M and I went in like this is not for fun.

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Speaker 5: We're not making friends, We're getting a job. And like

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Speaker 4: I'm fine with things, and.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was like I just went through this, They'll

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Speaker 2: I love this game play. I know you didn't want

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Speaker 4: Well thank you, that's cool.

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Speaker 5: I felt amazing because because Damian and I like, I

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Speaker 4: I remember.

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Speaker 5: But then we win, and he joined so much quicker

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Speaker 5: I thought they changed their mind. Yeah, I would didn't

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, and then I show up and Damien's already

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure. Well you did. You joined,

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Speaker 5: And I think there was there was always this I'm

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Speaker 5: It was something real that like people needed to talk about,

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Speaker 5: I'm like it was just so scary, and like you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it took me. It definitely took me a minute

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Speaker 2: I'm sure. I mean were we nice? Oh yeah, I

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I was intimidated by your coolness. You were

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Speaker 5: And I it was It's cool to have an opportunity

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Speaker 3: Yes, you played it very cool. You're a really good actor.

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Speaker 1: Like it was terrifying, And thank god I knew like

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Speaker 5: at some point You're like, I'm so pissed because I

450
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,720
Speaker 5: really want to do that Michael. Episode was like and

451
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,200
Speaker 5: we needed you. You would have been great, you know,

452
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 5: that would have been cool. But so it makes sense.

453
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:07,879
Speaker 5: I mean, how were they going to introduce me in

454
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 5: that episode?

455
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:09,440
Speaker 4: That's hard, right.

456
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,560
Speaker 1: There was barely enough time for any of the music,

457
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 1: so it's true they'd be like, who, who's this guy?

458
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 2: He sounds like.

459
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,200
Speaker 4: It was so exciting and so humbling and like, yeah,

460
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,000
Speaker 4: for took a long time. It was.

461
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 5: There were so many like polarizing feelings going on at

462
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,600
Speaker 5: the same time, you know, like I'm on this big

463
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,639
Speaker 5: like production, but I still have like remnants of my

464
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 5: of my old life, like my beat up car I

465
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 5: would show up in and I'm just like, I have

466
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,120
Speaker 5: these ties to like, this is news, this is where

467
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:39,640
Speaker 5: I was.

468
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 4: And yeah, that was just a whirlwind for sure.

469
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 2: I think that's a really important thing to mention. I

470
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 2: think now a days, because of the strike, people outside

471
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,639
Speaker 2: of in him of business are starting to learn about

472
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 2: the disparity between some of those things where you see

473
00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,160
Speaker 2: people on a show and you're like, oh, they must

474
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 2: be immediately rich and famous and their life meet must

475
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 2: be completely different. But for all of us, like we

476
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 2: all came, Like I was driving around a total car

477
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 2: for most of the first season while we were filming Glee,

478
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 2: And I think that's an important thing to remind people of.

479
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 2: Like you people normally it takes so long to get anything,

480
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 2: and then when you do, you've usually amassed some sort

481
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:30,159
Speaker 2: of debt and it takes time to get these checks

482
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 2: and pay back all the debts you owe and all

483
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 2: of that. But you're on TV already, and during Glee,

484
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,160
Speaker 2: it's like you're in front of ten million people, six

485
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 2: million people, whatever it is, every single week all of

486
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,239
Speaker 2: a sudden, and so like you go out and are

487
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 2: viewed by the outside world one way, but like you said, like,

488
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 2: then you get into your like old beat up car

489
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 2: and go home to this apartment you just got. Could

490
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:57,120
Speaker 2: you just move to La right? And it's a really weird,

491
00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 2: like complete mindfuck.

492
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, like no middle ground is complete nou side

493
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 4: of the spectrum.

494
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,159
Speaker 2: And I was talking to it. I have a friend

495
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 2: who's on a Netflix show currently, a really big Netflix show,

496
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 2: and I did that thing where I was like projecting.

497
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, well, he's on like one of

498
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 2: the biggest Netflix shows, he must be. And then he

499
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 2: was like talking about all that stuff, the life stuff.

500
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 2: I was like, right, right, you do ten episodes the

501
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 2: season or twelve episodes, like whatever it is. That's like, okay, yeah,

502
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 2: because you see these people like flying around the world

503
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,640
Speaker 2: to like go to fashion shows and do these things.

504
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 2: You're like, oh, but you're still we're here struggling.

505
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, Yeah, exactly.

506
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 2: But I think it's important to talk about too, especially

507
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 2: you had to go through the first thing of auditions

508
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 2: final six didn't get it. After doing a reality show,

509
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 2: then you can put on another reality.

510
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 4: Show like here he is, And I'm like, you have

511
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 4: no idea, You've.

512
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,400
Speaker 2: Already been on TV for at a minute. Yeah, exactly.

513
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 5: Maybe that was good though. I prepared that definitely. There

514
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 5: was definitely a lot of preparation in that to that.

515
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 2: I think if you can take away, yeah, if you

516
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 2: can take away those positive things, which sounds like you

517
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 2: did then and you have like a level head which

518
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 2: you've always had, then I think it is a benefit

519
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,880
Speaker 2: to be able to go through those things and withstand

520
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 2: them and come out on the other end of them

521
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 2: better for it, because not everybody. I think most people

522
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:33,880
Speaker 2: probably don't because reality shows can break you, I think,

523
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 2: and you seem to be come out of me like

524
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 2: I got a strategy.

525
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

526
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 5: Man, I remember like it was like the last week

527
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 5: of the first week on Glee Project and just seeing

528
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 5: everyone go so freaking hard and I'm like they're they're

529
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,679
Speaker 5: they're messing up, that they're done like that that you

530
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 5: can you can't do that for two months.

531
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 3: You know.

532
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: How do you feel like looking back on the show

533
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 1: on Joe's arc of the season that you were on,

534
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: sorry two seasons, how do you feel about the arc

535
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 1: of the character? Do you feel like you were utilized

536
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: in all the ways you could have been? Were you

537
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 1: just still kind of like happy to be there? By

538
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 1: season four? Like, what was that for you? In hindsight now.

539
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 5: I mean season three, I was just yes, so happy

540
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 5: to be there, really liked that I had a very

541
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 5: important message with my storyline. I was like, that is

542
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 5: so cool. I get to be a part of such

543
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 5: a great message and open open some eyes to do

544
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 5: how things should be, how things ought to be. And

545
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 5: but I always I don't know if you I was.

546
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 5: I didn't get any solo, Like I never had a

547
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 5: song is just mine.

548
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 1: So.

549
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 4: I don't know how make you feel.

550
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: Well.

551
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 4: I'm always going to frame it and in the most

552
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 4: empowering way I can.

553
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe that's why I'm supposed to make and put

554
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 5: out music now, because now you can if you want

555
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 5: to hear me do a solo, you can hear my music.

556
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 4: That's right, I'll be for interesting. It's interest in not

557
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 4: ever having a solo.

558
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 5: I just had so many ideas of what I wanted

559
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 5: to do, and I remember when season four came around,

560
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 5: I had so many ideas of how what I can

561
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 5: what I wanted the character to be, and like I

562
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 5: would pitch it to like Brad and stuff, and I'd

563
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 5: just be like, yeah, okay, to do it. And by

564
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 5: then I was just kind of there. And now I'm

565
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 5: kind of like I'm seeing everyone doing solos and I'm like, oh,

566
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 5: I can do this. I want give me a chance

567
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 5: to do this, and yes, I know I can, Like

568
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 5: I just knew I was made to do this, and

569
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 5: and then I get you know you, I didn't know

570
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 5: how good I have at it for sure, because there's

571
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 5: there was definitely a time there where I was like, man,

572
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 5: I'm just kind of here, but I'm not really that important.

573
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 5: I'm just kind of rounding out the classroom, and now

574
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 5: looking back at it, I'd be like, dude, shut up,

575
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 5: just be in the classroom.

576
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 4: Being quiet.

577
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 5: It was frustrated because I just wanted to perform so bad.

578
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 5: I wanted it to be an upward trajector, and it

579
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 5: kind of went like my storyline became less, which has

580
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 5: happened with other characters too, of course.

581
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, most of us.

582
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, we felt similarly.

583
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: We got to do more than you did, but we

584
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: felt some relarly in that way where like you're like,

585
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 1: you get hired for this job to do your job,

586
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: and then you don't really get to do it to

587
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 1: your full potential.

588
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,360
Speaker 3: You just don't feel like you're being used.

589
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,719
Speaker 1: And that is it's frustrating as an artist because it's

590
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: so hard to get a job in.

591
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 3: The first place, and then you're there and then you're like,

592
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 3: well let me show you, you know, So it can

593
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 3: be really frustrating.

594
00:27:54,359 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 4: But again comfortable. I'm like, god, I'm not anymore. It's okay.

595
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just it's just awesome that it happened.

596
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 5: I was supposed to do seven episodes and I did

597
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,360
Speaker 5: like episode so it's like, yeah.

598
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 3: Did you know it was going to keep going like that?

599
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 3: Or did you find out from episode to episode that

600
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 3: you were just still hanging?

601
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 4: It was episode to episode.

602
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 5: It was like we'd wrap an episode, I'd be like, oh,

603
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 5: don't know what's going to happen, and then I get

604
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 5: the phone, I get a script delivered my house and be.

605
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 4: Like, okay, we're still here.

606
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 3: Wow, oh my gosh.

607
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 5: They might kick me out of an episode. Like the

608
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 5: next episode, I wouldn't be in it. I'd be like,

609
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 5: oh god, is that it was?

610
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 4: That it?

611
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: And then well you did disappear with no real explanation,

612
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: Like what does that disappoint you? Yeah?

613
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 5: I mean not at the time, because at the time

614
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 5: I just felt like hot ship and I was like,

615
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 5: I am of comodity.

616
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 4: Now everyone's gonna want me in their thing.

617
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 5: And it was definitely cool for like a second, but

618
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 5: then you realize you're like, oh, like I'm I'm sure

619
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 5: you noticed. Like being on Glee helped me mostly, but

620
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 5: there's times it hurt me as well. There's been There's

621
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 5: definitely been times where people people wanted me for a

622
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 5: movie or something and they're like, yeah, but you're on

623
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 5: Glee and I'm like.

624
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, okay, ship got it. Yeah, it's a weird.

625
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: It's a weird thing.

626
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 3: It's a weird thing.

627
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 5: But I was so ready to be myself, like I

628
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 5: didn't I didn't feel like that teen Jesus guy in

629
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 5: my real life anymore. And I remember telling Brad. I

630
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 5: was like, hey, we're about to go on Hiatus. I

631
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 5: was like, it's it cool if I cut my hair

632
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 5: and He's like, yeah, go for it. And then I

633
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 5: realized I'm like, oh did I just like did I

634
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 5: just yeah? But again I was like, oh, this is

635
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 5: it's going to be so sick from here. And it's

636
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 5: had I've had my ups and downs, but it's been

637
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 5: it's been a great ride.

638
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's really, I'm not surprised, but it is

639
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 2: really fascinating to hear like everybody, all of us had

640
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 2: our own version of like that experience of am I

641
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 2: going to get fired? Or like you and like Damien

642
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 2: and all people knew people coming in and going episode

643
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 2: to episode wondering like are you going to be here

644
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 2: the next eight days again? To do this episode? Like

645
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 2: what a wild and stressful. Luckily we were all so

646
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 2: young and didn't really know any better. I think it

647
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 2: was probably the saving grace of all of it, Yes,

648
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: because if it was now, I would be like, ask

649
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 2: them when they need me, like, am I going to

650
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 2: be here? I don't want to wait around, like just wonder.

651
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thinks are higher now yeah.

652
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 2: Go now you know we know too much now, you know? Yeah?

653
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a scary time.

654
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 5: I bet it was just again just so many mixed

655
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 5: feelings about everything, you know, right, because by the end,

656
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 5: I was like, they don't even need me here. I'm

657
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 5: gonna go do big things.

658
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 3: Strike when and we're like you're hot shit, like let's go.

659
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 4: And I'm trying to go.

660
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 5: For all these TV shows dreadlocks and they're like this

661
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 5: show takes place in the eighties, and I'm like, you knows,

662
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 5: sometimes have no imagination zero.

663
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 2: I think that was the other thing too. I think

664
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 2: as hard as all of it was, there was a

665
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 2: magic with brad Ian and Ryan and Robert oric of

666
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 2: seeing something in all of us that in ways that

667
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 2: like we weren't getting jobs outside of that, you know,

668
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 2: beforehand and during it, where they saw some sort of

669
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 2: uniqueness and specialness within all of us when other people weren't,

670
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 2: which was also I think they're like, well, now we've

671
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 2: been seen, so surely everybody else sees it too, right.

672
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 2: I know it's just Ryan.

673
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 4: Totally, You're right. We were really lucky.

674
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, I look back at it now and I'm like,

675
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 5: what the hell else was I going to get the

676
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 5: way that I was like, wereated that?

677
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 4: You know?

678
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 2: Yeah?

679
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

680
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 2: I think Ryan like seeing Chris Colfer in the initial

681
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 2: audition and creating that role of Kirk for him was

682
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 2: like the biggest indicator of how he was going to

683
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 2: go about doing the show, because I mean, just how

684
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 2: Robert had you come back again because he knew that.

685
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: You there was there was a word for you somewhere

686
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: to fit into this group.

687
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 2: Like Glee needed Samuel Larson on the track right sort

688
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 2: of thing, like it was thanks to mom for Yeah,

689
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 2: what did I wanted to ask you that? How did

690
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 2: you call Mommy?

691
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: Like?

692
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 2: Thanks? You're right. If he didn't make me do this

693
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 2: tape does my Space audition, I wouldn't.

694
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 5: Oh, definitely. I was like, Wow, how different things would be?

695
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 5: Like I was really about to go out with some

696
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 5: friends and she's like, you're not allowed to go out

697
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 5: and here's my camera to make this and and and

698
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 5: good honor, like she just believes so hard. Like my

699
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 5: mom's the one that like when I was in high

700
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 5: school and I found out like the guitar player from

701
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 5: Chili from John for Sure they quit the redout Chili Peppers,

702
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 5: She's like, what's the singer's phone number?

703
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 4: You need to call him?

704
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 5: Like you should be the guitar player. I'm like, what

705
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 5: do you think is gonna happen? Like I love I

706
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 5: love it too, and I need to. I really learned

707
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 5: to like try to carry that possibility around with me

708
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 5: because look, you know here we.

709
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 2: Are, Yeah, exactly, nothing is impossible. Do you have a.

710
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 3: Favorite memory from your time of life?

711
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yes, or a not favorite memory show.

712
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 5: Favorite memory? I really enjoyed doing Night Fear. That was

713
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 5: such a fun day. That was a really fun number.

714
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,479
Speaker 5: Of course doing Stereo Hearts, it was like, yeah, I'm

715
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 5: sure you know, like when there's silence in the room

716
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 5: and it's time to do like some acting, it could

717
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 5: be really daunting your your first everyone there's music and

718
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 5: everyone's dancing, you can like hide behind the music. It

719
00:33:55,720 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 5: was that really set me free, Like that was such

720
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:01,959
Speaker 5: a fun moment because I was like, this is what

721
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 5: I do.

722
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 4: Like here we go.

723
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 2: What were some of the ideas you had for songs

724
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 2: that you wanted Joe to do? If you remember.

725
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 3: Any well, I know that.

726
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 4: I mean.

727
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,919
Speaker 5: I know that Ryan knows how it's like, I don't

728
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 5: know what's the best way to put this. You know,

729
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 5: there's lot of ROUGHI your feathers a little bit, like

730
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 5: I remember saying in like an interview that I wanted

731
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 5: to do Human Nature by Michael Jackson, and I think

732
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 5: he had known there was like a weird thing between

733
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 5: me and me and Cord were always like either best

734
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 5: friends or there were something weird. And I love that guy,

735
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,919
Speaker 5: but that was always the thing with us. I don't

736
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 5: even know why, but I remember when he gave human

737
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 5: nature to him, and I was like, I know what

738
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 5: you're doing or maybe I'm completely wrong, but like in

739
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 5: my head, I was like my song. I really wanted

740
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 5: to sing that song because also like what Michael Jackson

741
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 5: songs are in your rage and like that one, it's

742
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 5: like truly you you know and you killed, you killed

743
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 5: Michael Jackson.

744
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 2: I was also like I couldn't complain because I got

745
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 2: Michael songs, but I was like, damn, I wanted you

746
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 2: in nature.

747
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I really wanted to do that one. Yeah, just

748
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 4: to mention it.

749
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 5: Like I think for every new guy that came in,

750
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 5: Corey was just the best. Corey would just completely take

751
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 5: you under his wing. I remember just always coming up

752
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 5: to me. He's like, what's up, TV star, how you doing,

753
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 5: And would take me out to lunch and just really

754
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 5: it was really easy to feel welcome with him, specifically

755
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 5: because I could tell he was paying extra attention to

756
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 5: me to make sure I felt welcomed and that was

757
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 5: huge for me. And I saw him do it with

758
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 5: others as well, Like I saw him do it when

759
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 5: when Blake joined as well, and I was like, I

760
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 5: know what he's doing, Like that's his thing, and I

761
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 5: think that's great, and it's and it brought up the

762
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 5: best of me.

763
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 4: Like I see certain scenes.

764
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 5: And I'm like, we filmed this like right after me

765
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 5: and Corey just had lunch, And I think that's why

766
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 5: I'm doing better because I was more comfortable having just

767
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 5: hung out with him.

768
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 4: So Yeah, the.

769
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: Board, I think every guest that we've had, every crew

770
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: member we've had, has always mentioned the kindness that Corey

771
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: personally brought to them. I mean there's very few interviews

772
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: that I think people don't mention that.

773
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was a very quiet. He was quiet

774
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 2: about it because you wouldn't showy.

775
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: It was just a genuine, genuine feeling of like inclusivity

776
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: for him.

777
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 2: He was a real leader on set in that way.

778
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 2: And I don't think like I didn't necessarily realize it

779
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 2: to the extent that he was doing that. So we

780
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 2: started interviewing people.

781
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 5: Right And also him and I were, I mean, him

782
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 5: and I were the most consistent cigarette smokers.

783
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 4: We smoked every day, so we were always.

784
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 5: Outside, just us to a lot of the time, smoking

785
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 5: and bonding and up. It was like our thing. We were,

786
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 5: you know, let's go have one. And I think that

787
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 5: helped a lot too. Yeah, for the best reason, but.

788
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 2: No, but it's definitely a he's probably very thankful to

789
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 2: have go. There's a guy and.

790
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 5: He's like, you know, we can get crafty to get

791
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 5: a cigarette, and I'm like, oh, way, that's awesome.

792
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 3: Wow, that's so sweet. Though.

793
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 1: We have a few fa well, there's quite a few.

794
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: We posted to ask some questions because you were coming

795
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: on the show, and some people wrote in, so we

796
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: have some fan questions for you.

797
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 4: Awesome.

798
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: Somebody Tonic said, what was it like to film without

799
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: shoes on?

800
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 4: Oh? I mean that was just very inspired by me.

801
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 5: When I was seventeen, I pretty much I went with

802
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 5: the whole year without wearing shoes.

803
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 2: Shut out, that is zero.

804
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 5: I was living in a suburb at the time, so

805
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 5: it wasn't as Dirney like.

806
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 4: When I moved to La I was like, we're not

807
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 4: doing that at all, you know. I was in this.

808
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 5: Weird I was playing in a band, and I was

809
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 5: very inspired by like Lenny Kravitz and Bow and I

810
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 5: remember just thinking like I didn't feel like I was

811
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 5: old enough for masculine enough for boots yet, but I

812
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 5: didn't like the old the old shoes I was wearing,

813
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 5: and I was like, the only way I'm gonna pull

814
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 5: off is I'm just not gonna wear shoes. And I

815
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 5: remember when I did my when I made it to

816
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 5: the bottom three on Glee Project for the first time,

817
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 5: I came out barefoot and Ryan was like, he gave

818
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 5: me a second And they didn't hear this, but he

819
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 5: gave me a second chance afterwards, and you know what

820
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 5: he told me. He was like, He's like, you did

821
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 5: the same thing you did in the audition. He's like

822
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 5: you you're awesome, You're whatever other adjectivity use he's like,

823
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 5: but he's like, you are are not vulnerable enough.

824
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 4: And I was like, oh, that's what you want to

825
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 4: see from me.

826
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 5: I thought you wanted me to be a rock star

827
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 5: and he's like, no, I want to see you be vulnerable.

828
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 5: So he said, go backstage, get your guitar, put some

829
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,959
Speaker 5: shoes on, and come back out and do something else.

830
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 3: Put some shoes on.

831
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

832
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 5: So but then they wrote my character with no shoes,

833
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 5: so that's I.

834
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 3: Think Ryan just had a thing about no shoes.

835
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 2: Then he did, didn't he I think.

836
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 3: I think he did. I think it was a personal.

837
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the opposite of Quentin Tarantina.

838
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 4: Oh my god. It was great. It was nice filming

839
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 4: without shoes on. It was I was used to it.

840
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 3: I hear that. I hear that.

841
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 2: I was like, how clean was the set floor? I

842
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 2: don't know that's true.

843
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: Ka Bell Zoo said, what was it like to play

844
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 1: two drastically different characters, Joe and Glee and Zed Evans

845
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: in after?

846
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 4: Well, Uh, Joe was they're both me.

847
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 5: Joe was just me, like in high school, that's exactly

848
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 5: who I was, very much me. And then Zed was

849
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 5: who I got who I am more of who I

850
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 5: am now, who I got to be when I didn't

851
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 5: have to like make sure my parents were not mad

852
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 5: at me, and I was trying to do the people

853
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 5: pleasing thing.

854
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 4: Like I knew in the back of my head.

855
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 5: I was like, when I'm out of here, I'm going

856
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 5: to loose and I'm going to be who I really

857
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 5: want to be.

858
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 4: So Ed was real who I really am now. Yeah,

859
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 4: both me. It was nice to.

860
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 5: Play Zed because I was like, it was very much

861
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 5: who I was now. They even like, let me wear

862
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 5: my own clothes.

863
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 4: Wow wow. Yeah.

864
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 5: See if we're talking about clothes, that's what was really

865
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 5: funny too, about like Joe's wardrobe was like, even though

866
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 5: it was very bohemian, it was like the nicest clothes ever.

867
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 4: Like everything was so expensive. I was just like, he looks.

868
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 5: So like bohemian and and yeah, but everything was like

869
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 5: those cardigans were like a thousand dollars.

870
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 2: Always this is ridiculous, Like I'll always be pissed I

871
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 2: had the cheapest wardrobe on that show. Everyone you had some.

872
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:12,280
Speaker 3: Stuff from Barney's Kevin don't scarf scarf, That's what about

873
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:13,240
Speaker 3: that dinosaur belt?

874
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 2: Okay, the belts maybe, but like I was wearing use

875
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 2: larges from like J. C. Penny, my button ups and

876
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 2: a lot of it was like Goodwill and with my orthopedic.

877
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 3: Some of your sweaters did smell.

878
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, well I'm happy Samuel had whatever. I'll get

879
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 2: over it one day. Amy Aby wants to know. Did

880
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 2: you enjoy the Quinn Joe relationship?

881
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 4: Of course, there was always the thing.

882
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 5: There's always the thing of like we knew we were

883
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 5: going to have more camera time if there was some

884
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,720
Speaker 5: sort of love interest going on, so I was like, yes,

885
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 5: there's gonna be camera time as well. It was it

886
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 5: was really fun becoming friends at as well, and that

887
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 5: was I guess saving all My love for you was

888
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 5: maybe the closest that I ever got to like a

889
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 5: solo our duet, which was I love how they arranged

890
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 5: that as well, because we switched from like who was

891
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 5: doing the high harmony.

892
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,240
Speaker 4: I just thought that was such a cool arrangement.

893
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 2: Your voices are so pretty together too.

894
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks, Yeah, I was. I'm very proud of that

895
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 5: specific track. But yeah, of course it was such a

896
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 5: fun time. It was fun to really like that's when

897
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 5: I really felt like I was doing some acting because

898
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 5: it was one on one and it was deeper. You know,

899
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 5: if any scene in anything, like when it's one on

900
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 5: one gets deeper than if it's a classroom environment or

901
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 5: there's five people there. So it was nice to really

902
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 5: dive in and yeah and yeah, and she helped me

903
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 5: feel more welcome as well, Like, yeah.

904
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 4: It was awesome.

905
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: Wind Dreamer Entertainment wants to know when we'll see an

906
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: album or some new music from you.

907
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 3: They it's your voice.

908
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 4: Oh, that's that's really sweet. You know.

909
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 5: I feel like it's taken me this long to find

910
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 5: myself as an artist, to be honest, I think I've

911
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 5: gone through some things in life and I finally have

912
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 5: like a lot that I want to say, and I've always.

913
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 4: Had qualms with my voice.

914
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 5: I think that's what's humbled me a lot in my

915
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 5: journey is that you know, we're talking Michael Jackson and

916
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 5: Prince and Bow. It's like the greatest of all time.

917
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 5: And just knowing that I'm not them almost me a lot. Knowing,

918
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 5: you know, as a singer, like knowing your limits almost

919
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 5: you a lot.

920
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 4: But I don't know.

921
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 5: I think I have an EP that's coming out. I'm

922
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,479
Speaker 5: actually gonna start campaigning the first single here really soon,

923
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 5: and I think it's like the most me it's ever sounded,

924
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 5: and it doesn't sound like anything else I've put out.

925
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 5: It's just like I found where I like to sing

926
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 5: that I that I like my voice, and it's probably

927
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 5: the music you walk away from not going like, oh,

928
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 5: that guy is such a good singer. It's like it's

929
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 5: it's not about singing good as is. It's using my

930
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 5: voice as a tool for like the heart that I

931
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 5: want to make and I'm just really excited about it.

932
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 5: I have an EP that'll be out probably in a

933
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 5: few months. I'm going to drop singles until the EP

934
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 5: comes out. It's gonna be called When Love kills you

935
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 5: and then by the end of the year, I want

936
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 5: to have an album out. I think I saw their

937
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 5: friend the other day is like, just have your just

938
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 5: do your first album, like whatever you think it is

939
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 5: supposed to be, just let that go, especially if you're

940
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 5: in that head space maturity. Yeah, it's happening. I mean,

941
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 5: they're just it's I don't know, and I produced it myself.

942
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 5: It's the first thing I've produced everything myself, and I

943
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 5: don't know. I just think I found myself and it

944
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,720
Speaker 5: happened later than I thought, and that's okay.

945
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 3: That is okay.

946
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the journey, there's something about I love one artists,

947
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 2: so you know, can like really sing, like you can

948
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 2: really sing like showing restraint or that like sweet spot

949
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 2: that you're talking about. I love that when it's like

950
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 2: I know what you can do. But it's like even

951
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 2: I think for what the.

952
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 3: Intent is or the motivation is behind it, or.

953
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 2: It's harder I think to have that restraint and to

954
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 2: like play within the part that you feel most comfortable.

955
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 2: And I think it's harder to do that. Like you

956
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 2: were talking about Glee project, when people came in the

957
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 2: first week doing the most you're like, no, I'm not

958
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 2: doing that. I do think like Beyonce did on Renaissance.

959
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 2: You know, you're just like Beyonce. That's what I'm saying. Yes, finally,

960
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 2: I know that's what you want to hear.

961
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:43,439
Speaker 3: Wow, what is the feeling that Glee leaves you with?

962
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 5: Like like as a viewer, as as a part of it,

963
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 5: a part of it, or felt very seen like you

964
00:45:54,640 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 5: were saying, like felt very understood, really felt like you

965
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 5: they understan. Yeah, like they just understood who I was

966
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 5: and what my strengths were and where my vulnerabilities were.

967
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 5: And as much as I wanted to like be myself

968
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,760
Speaker 5: currently at that time of my life as a nineteen

969
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 5: twenty year old, I was looking back on it. It's like,

970
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 5: it's so cool that I got to represent who I

971
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 5: really was in high school and like there's a lot

972
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 5: of parallels there, and they didn't even know who I

973
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 5: was in high school, but somehow they got my energy

974
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 5: and wrote me as a teenager and now it's immortalized forever,

975
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 5: and like those messages that they gave Joe as like

976
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,879
Speaker 5: immortalized forever, which is really cool. I want to mention

977
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 5: this just because I said Joe, I don't know if

978
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 5: you guys know this, but my character's name was Apollo

979
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 5: until five minutes before my first scene.

980
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 2: That's right.

981
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 3: We Yeah, I don't think I knew that, And why did?

982
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 3: Do you know why they changed it?

983
00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 5: Because it's because it's not biblical, probably why they chose Joe.

984
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 5: There's a lot of really cool biblical names there are.

985
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 5: But yeah, it was like literally I was in the trailer,

986
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 5: make up done, ready to go, and they're like, oh,

987
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 5: we have one.

988
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 4: More change your whole character's name.

989
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 2: That is a huge thing. That's a huge difference thing.

990
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, Paulo, I thought was so cool. But then I'm like,

991
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 5: all right, let's go shoot it. And I'm just like,

992
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 5: who am I? Hey whatever, I'm here, you know.

993
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, welcome in a nutshell guess what.

994
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, we were so grateful that you you said

995
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: yes and you know, popped on this week. We're so

996
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 1: it was so nice to speak with you. You brought

997
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:47,439
Speaker 1: such a nice, fresh kind cool energy and vibe and

998
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: like confident vibe to our group, and I'm so glad

999
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: we were nice to you in the beginning.

1000
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 4: You were you were.

1001
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 1: But yeah, we had such a we had so many

1002
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 1: good memories on on those crazy days and those crazy times,

1003
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: and we're just so happy for you and where you're

1004
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: at now.

1005
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 3: So everybody make sure you check out Samuel singles and

1006
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 3: his EP and his album at the end of the

1007
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 3: year that hopefully will be out and hold you to it.

1008
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, now I'm accountable, Yes exactly, But honestly, you guys, like,

1009
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 5: thank you so much for having me. Those memories I

1010
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 5: look back on are like some of the best times

1011
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 5: of my life, some of the best feelings I've ever had,

1012
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 5: and you guys are so instrumental to that and just

1013
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 5: being able to even be fly on the wall watching

1014
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 5: what you guys do. You guys are so talented and

1015
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,280
Speaker 5: inspiring and just yeah, really really cool.

1016
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 4: Thank you.

1017
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 2: Likewise, you haven't changed. That's wonderful, like you've al I

1018
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 2: hope people take away from this like how just nice

1019
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 2: you are and talented, because it was really nice to

1020
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 2: be around someone and be like, damn, we got ste

1021
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 2: of our game. Yeah yeah, yes, yes, absolutely, and you

1022
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 2: made us better and it was You were such a

1023
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,240
Speaker 2: great addition. So thank you again for spending the time

1024
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 2: to talk about this with us.

1025
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, pleasure, Thanks for having me.

1026
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 2: You're the best good luck.

1027
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 4: Yes, thank you.

1028
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 3: Hope to see you in person again soon.

1029
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, please, thanks, thank you, Thanks guys.

1030
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: I don't think that we've we we got to talk

1031
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: to Samuel all that much towards the end because he

1032
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 1: left before the show ended. To hear his whole experience

1033
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: is so uplifting to me. I think it's really nice

1034
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:42,280
Speaker 1: to hear his appreciation for just where he was despite

1035
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 1: some of the challenges and you know, being a little

1036
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: bit underused, Like we all felt that way because there

1037
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: were fifty of us at the time, like when he

1038
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: was on, but like really just it's really refreshing to hear.

1039
00:49:55,200 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 2: I also feel sort of bad because it was a disparity,

1040
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 2: but because I'm a broken record, but because we were

1041
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 2: sort of losing our minds by the time he came in,

1042
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 2: like or we had lost our minds by the time

1043
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 2: he came in.

1044
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 1: It's why I keep saying I was so grateful we

1045
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: were nice to him, because like my memory is just

1046
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: so yeah.

1047
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 2: I don't like John had. There was a little window

1048
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,399
Speaker 2: when Damien came in, and we had like a couple

1049
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 2: of brain cells.

1050
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 1: Left, yes, and then by the time Samuel came in,

1051
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 1: they were gone.

1052
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so I'm glad he had a great experience.

1053
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 2: I do feel bad like that there was like he

1054
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 2: probably came into such a shit show on our part, but.

1055
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 3: He was also such a big fan, which I also love.

1056
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 2: Like a lot.

1057
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 3: It's very sweet. Well, he did a good job covering

1058
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 3: it up.

1059
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. I just have this like distinct memory of being

1060
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 2: at Chord's apartment and Cord always had like a little

1061
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 2: like get together, not huge parties, but he'd have like

1062
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 2: you know, with then and everywhere, like we just have

1063
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 2: these little parties. And I remember it might have been

1064
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 2: like Samuel's first party with us or something like that,

1065
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 2: and I could see him sort of like being the

1066
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:10,240
Speaker 2: new kid, like, but you're awesome, You're great, Like, don't worry,

1067
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:11,760
Speaker 2: we're all here together.

1068
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 3: There's none of that, right, right, So you're not a

1069
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 3: new kid, You're just with us.

1070
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,439
Speaker 2: Yeah. But I just think it was probably so hard

1071
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 2: for people to like come into that because I get

1072
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,919
Speaker 2: like that now, going into like a bunch of.

1073
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 3: People you admire, respect or whatever it is.

1074
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like especially with us, we were absolutely clique.

1075
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 2: And he was just so nice through all of it,

1076
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 2: like so.

1077
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, just.

1078
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 1: Like did his job so yeah, well, we were so

1079
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:41,879
Speaker 1: grateful for Samuel to come out and coming on. It's

1080
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: so fun to have like be able to talk to

1081
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: all of our our castmates again on the show and

1082
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 1: hear their experiences again.

1083
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,479
Speaker 3: So thank you Samuel, Thanks for joining us.

1084
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 2: For another episode and that's what you really missed. Thanks

1085
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 2: for listening and follow us on Instagram and that's what

1086
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 2: you really miss pod. Make sure to write us a

1087
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 2: review and leave us five stars. See you next time.