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Speaker 1: names you need to know before the frenzy begins. The

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six NFL Draft is fast approaching as well,

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Speaker 1: and we got a couple stars from last week's combine

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Speaker 1: on the show tonight. Dion Burk's and Jacob Rodriguez stop

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Speaker 1: by to discuss their journeys.

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Speaker 2: And where they go from here.

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Speaker 1: Welcome inside with the Insiders alongside Jennie Battista, I am

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Speaker 1: Tom Pellicero. Free agency frenzy just around the quarter, kicking

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Speaker 1: off on Monday, but guess what, The trade frenzy has

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Speaker 1: the Bills and Bears agreeing to a deal that sends

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Speaker 1: the Bears, dj Moore had had career low with fifty

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Speaker 3: This is what they're getting in Dj Moore. He has

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Speaker 1: Is so the first time Brandon Bean has taken a

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Speaker 3: The Falcons are releasing receiver Darnell Mooney. His performance dropped

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Speaker 1: Not many players had a better showing at the Combine

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Speaker 5: Marked up Keihan, the four to three is impressive and

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Speaker 4: Honestly, think it comes to my father. My father is

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Speaker 5: You know, it's one thing, Dion to run a blistering

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Speaker 2: All that stuff.

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Speaker 5: But you always ask yourself as an analyst, does it

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Speaker 4: Dion definitely does transfer to the field when that play,

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Speaker 4: I believe. Right. But this this Illinois State right here,

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Speaker 6: Man. That's that word speed right there there is.

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Speaker 2: I can see that.

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Speaker 2: Here's why this worked, right was death man?

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Speaker 6: You got to know the plays that she was in on.

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Speaker 6: Definitely at the combine.

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Speaker 4: Man, anytime somebody say my name, I picture her, I

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I have a lot of friends that played football

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Speaker 4: Yes, Marvin Mims is somebody I definitely keep in contact with.

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Speaker 6: Man. He's a great dude, great players, but.

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Speaker 4: I meanly like he's better off the field man and

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Speaker 4: And the little things that could just help me be

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Speaker 4: with me with my game is definitely a great thing

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Speaker 4: to see. Man, he's more than just a football player.

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Speaker 1: And it's not uncommon these days for guys to play

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Speaker 4: Yes, I played every position in college.

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Speaker 6: I played the X, I played the Z, I played

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Speaker 4: I've been in the backfield, but i Purdue, I may

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Speaker 1: So last thing for you, real quick before you let

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Speaker 2: Here, what's your pitch to teams who.

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Speaker 6: Yes, my heart is honestly bigger than my height.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if you watch the fam turn on the film,

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Speaker 4: you definitely see that I play with a chip on

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Speaker 6: Every single play.

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Speaker 4: I'm willing to put my nose and any play block

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Speaker 4: I'm definitely that type of dude. And I'm not go

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Speaker 4: So I'm definitely dependable and I'm players from players, players

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Speaker 6: I connect well with guys and definitely I said that I.

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Speaker 2: Know the name Dion Burks.

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Speaker 1: For fifty days out from the draft, you will hear

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Speaker 1: thanks a ton for the time, man, We appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Hey a lot of talent, a lot of big names

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Speaker 1: Steve White. Just talk about some of these backs. Steve

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's Kenneth Walker the Seattle Seahawks. He's probably the

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Speaker 7: I should say on Kenneth Walker, so explosive player. We'll

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Speaker 7: etn We know the dual threat that he is.

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Speaker 2: He you know, he's got three.

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Speaker 7: One thousand plus yard rushing seasons, including last year. We

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Speaker 7: But he's someone who could add some spice to that jumbalaya.

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Speaker 7: And the opposite now of Etna is Tyler Aljier. Now

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 1: All right, how about some of those old deer running backs?

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Speaker 7: But Aaron Jones, of course, we know what he did

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Speaker 7: That is Kenneth Gainwell, a combined twenty three yards seventy

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Speaker 7: He did a lot, got off to that blazing start,

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Speaker 2: With the explosive ability.

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Speaker 7: With more and more teams having those wanting more speed

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Speaker 2: So a little bit older than.

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Speaker 1: Steve great stuff. We will see you on free agency Frenzy.

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Speaker 1: We'll see Judy Patissa there too.

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Speaker 3: your home for all the signings starting Monday through Wednesday,

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Speaker 3: ten am to six pm Eastern. Every deal, every trade,

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Speaker 3: every surprise, Walt to Wall coverage on all thirty two teams,

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Speaker 3: don't miss a move. It all kicks off March ninth.

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Speaker 3: You know who's going to be a part of free

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Speaker 3: agency Frenzy.

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Speaker 6: Mark Ross.

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Speaker 3: But first he is part of the Insiders.

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Speaker 6: Mark.

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Speaker 3: We are going to talk about perfect fits for some

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Speaker 3: of these big time free agents. Let's start with running back.

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Speaker 3: We were just talking about Kenneth Walker.

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Speaker 9: Kenneth Walker and Judy I think will be in high demand,

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Speaker 9: but I think the most the perfect fit for him

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Speaker 9: will be in Washington, and that's what Jayden Daniels. Of course,

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Speaker 9: we know played it at an MVP levels rookie year

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Speaker 9: with the injuries last season, so you bringing a guy

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Speaker 9: like Kenneth Walker takes some of that pressure off of

457
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Speaker 9: Jadon Daniels coming in there. You know got some runbacks

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Speaker 9: like Bill Jacory Krossky Merritt there and Chris Rodriguez, but

459
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Speaker 9: really need that guy that can just he with all

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Speaker 9: else fails. Let's hand it off to him to compliment

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Speaker 9: Terry McLaurin. See if Deebo Samuels is back there as well.

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Speaker 9: New offensive coordinator too, Judy, So he'll breathe a little

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Speaker 9: bit easier knowing he has somebody like Kenneth Walker there

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Speaker 9: in the backfield.

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Speaker 3: All Right, we have been following the travails of Trey

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Speaker 3: Hendrickson for a few years now. He is finally going

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Speaker 3: to be a free agent. What is the best fit

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Speaker 3: for him?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be a shame.

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Speaker 9: Traill gets settled and we don't have anything to talk

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Speaker 9: about in the offseason. Now, you know, a little bit

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Speaker 9: up there in age thirty one, coming off the injury.

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Speaker 9: But I think another hot guy being high demand. Let's

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Speaker 9: get him the Baltimore the division rival there in Baltimore

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Speaker 9: with the disappointing pass rush last season and new head

476
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Speaker 9: coach Jesse Minter who came from the Chargers and found

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Speaker 9: that the fountain of youth there with Khalil Mack with.

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Speaker 2: The production there.

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Speaker 9: So let's see run it back there again with Trey

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Speaker 9: Hendrickson who also can provide impact. But also you know,

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Speaker 9: teach that young Mike Green, the second year pass rusher

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Speaker 9: there out of Marshall, to help him out, help him develop,

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Speaker 9: to provide a little dual punch there they found the Ravens.

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Speaker 9: Also talking about older guys, they found a little bit

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Speaker 9: success with Kyle van Noy. So you know, the Ravens

486
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Speaker 9: have been down this road signing high profile, big time

487
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Speaker 9: free agents later on in their careers. So let's see

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Speaker 9: if Trey Henderson can provide that impact my.

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Speaker 3: Quarterback, Malik will If that is Greg Rosenthal's number one

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Speaker 3: free agent, what's the best spit for him?

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Speaker 9: Well, Malik Willis, of course, of course, completely resurrected his

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Speaker 9: career in Green Bay after the disappointment in Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: So let's get him to Miami and Judy.

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Speaker 9: A lot of times it's not about the free agent

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Speaker 9: and how good they are, but it's coaches like to

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Speaker 9: feel comfortable. And with the new brain trust down there

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Speaker 9: Jeff haf Lead a head coach and the new GM

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Speaker 9: John Eric Sullivan coming from Green Bay, that gives them

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Speaker 9: a little bit of comfort level knowing they've been around

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Speaker 9: Malik Willis and knows what he will provide on and

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Speaker 9: off the field as a leader, as a worker, and

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Speaker 9: then hopefully get another jump getting down there in Miami,

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Speaker 9: much like he had going from Tennessee to Green Bay.

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Speaker 9: Another jump in the production and playmaking in the consistency.

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Speaker 9: So because of the brain trust being familiar and the playmaking,

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Speaker 9: Let's get Malik to Miami.

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Speaker 3: Judy all right, Rashi Chi heat was a real difference

508
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Speaker 3: maker for the Seahawks during their push to the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: He's going to be a free agent, Toyo, where should

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Speaker 3: he land?

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Speaker 9: Well, much like I talked about Malik Miami familiar, Well,

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Speaker 9: let's get Shaheed to Las Vegas with new head coach

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Speaker 9: Clint Kubiak, who saw firsthand the explosive impact that he

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Speaker 9: had as a receiver and as a return specialist. And

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Speaker 9: for Shaheed, he really steps in and would be the

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Speaker 9: number one receiving threat outside of course brock Bauers the

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Speaker 9: tight end to pair with also Ashton Genti and the

518
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Speaker 9: new number one pick there for Nando Mendoza if he

519
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Speaker 9: is the guy there. So here it is you provide

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Speaker 9: an instant impact player to go it an offense with

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Speaker 9: some established pieces and your rookie quarterback, and the head

522
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Speaker 9: coach knows exactly how to scheme up Rashid Shaheed because

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Speaker 9: he's done it, so there's really no thinking in it.

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Speaker 9: Like Lake, he can come here and do this in

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Speaker 9: my offense, Judy.

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Speaker 3: All right, we expect Kyler Murray to be released. He

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Speaker 3: is a quarterback, of course, and we know there are

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Speaker 3: a lot of teams looking for quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: What is the best fit for Kyler, Well, a bunch

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Speaker 2: of fits.

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Speaker 9: And let's talk about the one team that's always looking

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Speaker 9: for the quarterback, the beloved New York Jets. There, so

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Speaker 9: I think, you know, with justin Fields, you know, kind

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Speaker 9: of not disappointing last season, Kyler could step in there.

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Speaker 9: The Pittsburgh Steelers I think should be an option after

536
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Speaker 9: of course Adam Rodgers played admirably, but you really can't

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Speaker 9: think going into next season Aaron Rodgers could be your guy.

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Speaker 9: I think the perfect fit for him, Judy is Atlanta,

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Speaker 9: where who's had their own trials and tribulations at quarterback,

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Speaker 9: paying Kirk Cousins and then drafting Michael Pennix, who's injured

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Speaker 9: once again. You know, five seasons that he's had season

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Speaker 9: ending injury. So you really can't go in the next

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Speaker 9: season and say that you can count on Michael Penni's

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Speaker 9: and I think Kyler Murray, he's still only twenty eight

545
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Speaker 9: years old. Get down there in Georgia kind of reminisced

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Speaker 9: that the ghost of Michael Vick with that playmaking there.

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Speaker 9: Bjohn Robinson is there, he doesn't have to be the

548
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Speaker 9: number one focal point. Drake London, Kyle Pitts. That could

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Speaker 9: be scary down there, Atlanta, Judy.

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Speaker 6: I like the sound of that.

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Speaker 3: That is certainly going to be one of the most

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Speaker 3: interesting ones to watch.

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Speaker 2: Mark Ross, thank you.

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Speaker 3: We know we're going to be talking to you a

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Speaker 3: lot more during free agency frenzy. But when we return

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Speaker 3: on the Insiders, we're going to turn our attention back

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Speaker 3: to the draft. We have buck Us Award winning linebacker

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Speaker 3: Jacob Rodriguez joining the show. That's coming up when we

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Speaker 3: return on the Insiders.

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Speaker 1: All Star Games, check Combine check on the Pro Days,

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Speaker 1: we go some of the notable ones right here, including

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Speaker 1: Texas Tech on March twenty six.

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Speaker 2: That is where NFL teams are going to.

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Speaker 1: Get a look at the Buttkus Award winner linebacker Jacob Rodriguez,

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Speaker 1: who caught up with our Brian Baldinger just a short

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Speaker 1: time ago.

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Speaker 5: In the picture right here is Jacob Rodriguez and he

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Speaker 5: wasn't just the Butkus Award winner, he was the Lombardi

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Speaker 5: Award winner, He was the Concrete Charlie Beneric Award winner.

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Speaker 5: He won every single award, First Team All American, whole thing. Jacob,

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Speaker 5: it's been a whirl win for you coming off a

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Speaker 5: phenomenal season. How you feeling you just got back from

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Speaker 5: the combine? You feeling good about where you're at right now,

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Speaker 5: getting ready for the next chapter in your life.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, feel good.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, happy to be back here in love it right now,

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Speaker 10: training and just getting ready for what's coming next. Yeah,

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Speaker 10: I've been it's been fun talking to all the teams

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Speaker 10: and yeah, you know, creating good relationships and so, yeah,

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Speaker 10: it's been fun. Happy with where I'm at and happy

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Speaker 10: with things are turning the right way.

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Speaker 3: Jacob.

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Speaker 5: I got to ask you because I really did my research.

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Speaker 5: You know, that's what I do. I do research, Jacob.

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Speaker 5: So I went back and watched it at Virginia twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty one. You're catching passes, you're in the slot, You're

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Speaker 5: you're catching fly sweep from the running game, and then

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Speaker 5: you transfer to Texas Tech. Did you always want to

589
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Speaker 5: be a linebacker? Virginia just didn't figure it out? Like,

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Speaker 5: tell me about the transition to what you've become.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I was actually going there to play quarterback for

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Speaker 10: Bronco Menenhall, and I loved everything that he had to offer.

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Speaker 10: And you know, I when he stepped down from the

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Speaker 10: program after the end of the year, it's time to

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Speaker 10: make a change. And you know, I believed in coach

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Speaker 10: Recquire and you know, he actually knew me out of

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Speaker 10: high school and offered me as a linebacker out of

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Speaker 10: high school, and so it was kind of it was

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Speaker 10: fun to go and join him there and here in Lubbock,

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Speaker 10: And yeah, it's been fun ever since.

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Speaker 5: Jay, You've filled up the stat sheet in every possible

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Speaker 5: category that there is. There's any of the offensive skills

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Speaker 5: that you came to Lubbick with do they transfer to

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Speaker 5: the linebacker position, because we don't see this transition very

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Speaker 5: often in football.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I think there's a lot of skills that can transfer,

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Speaker 10: and a lot of it has to do with your

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Speaker 10: mental game and a lot of the intellectual part about football,

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Speaker 10: and you know, knowing where you know you got to be,

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Speaker 10: whether it be runner pass and you know, just learning

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Speaker 10: where the offense wants to attack, and a lot of

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Speaker 10: stuff can translate to especially preparation throughout the week, and

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Speaker 10: it only gets better and better as you keep going.

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Speaker 5: Check them by walking down the street in Indianapolis and

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Speaker 5: I run into Charles penut Tillman. Right, we have like

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Speaker 5: a little get together whatever. And I know you had

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Speaker 5: a chance to talk to them at the combine. Tell

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Speaker 5: me about your meeting, because nobody's perfected the peanut punch

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Speaker 5: better than you. And I'm just curious, did you learn

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Speaker 5: it from watching Peanut? Did you do it on your own?

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Speaker 5: Because the thirteen force fumbles are ridiculous, just the number

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Speaker 5: it self, But I think that's going to transfer to

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Speaker 5: the NFL.

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Speaker 2: But tell me about the with Peanut.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I actually got to meet him.

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Speaker 10: He was down there in Fort Myers with me training

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Speaker 10: at X three, and you know, he was helping out

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Speaker 10: some guys that he was with and I actually got

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Speaker 10: a chance to talk to him for about a hour,

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Speaker 10: sat down and had a really good conversation with him.

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Speaker 10: Talked about you know, being able to take the football

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Speaker 10: away and and uh, you.

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Speaker 8: Know, everything on the field and off the field.

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Speaker 10: And he's a great guy and a huge intellectual guy

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Speaker 10: and it was great to you know, pick his brain

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Speaker 10: and try to find the easiest way to take the

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Speaker 10: ball away.

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Speaker 8: But yeah, I mean, you got to practice it all

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Speaker 8: the time. You got to work on it.

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Speaker 10: But it helps when you can you watch guys, you know,

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Speaker 10: the best who do it, and it was it was

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Speaker 10: a pleasure to meet him, and you know, I loved

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Speaker 10: every second of it.

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Speaker 5: What part of this whole process, Like it seems like

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Speaker 5: you're like, you just went to the combine. He had

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Speaker 5: a very good combine, Jacob, you ran well, you tested good.

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Speaker 5: I loved the four to one to nine shuttle. Uh,

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Speaker 5: Like I think that. I think that's one of the

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Speaker 5: things that you do with the combine that really shows

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Speaker 5: up on your tape. It's just a change of direction

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Speaker 5: and the quickft that it takes.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it was good. I think it was.

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Speaker 10: It was a lot of fun training for that and

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Speaker 10: it was definitely weird, you know, as a football player

655
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Speaker 10: training the way that we do, you know, for that

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Speaker 10: and and getting ready to go. But yeah, it was

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Speaker 10: good to see, you know that I can perform well

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Speaker 10: exact what they needed me to do. And yeah, I'm

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Speaker 10: just happy to you know, keep it going and have

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Speaker 10: a good pro day here in love it.

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Speaker 2: Jake.

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Speaker 5: You go from the Big twelve championship game to the playoffs,

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Speaker 5: unfortunate ending against Oregon. You go to the Senior Bowl,

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Speaker 5: you nail that, you go to the Combine. I would

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Speaker 5: say this has been a pretty good off season for

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Speaker 5: you so far, and the and the arc that you're

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Speaker 5: on right now to the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, definitely. I think it's been a fun experience. You

669
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Speaker 10: always grew up want and play in the Senior Bowl.

670
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Speaker 10: You always grow up wanting to go to Combine, and

671
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Speaker 10: so to you know, go out there and check boxes

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Speaker 10: and and have a good time doing it and meeting

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Speaker 10: all the people that you can. It was it was

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Speaker 10: a huge pleasure being down there a mobile, especially you know,

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Speaker 10: being down there with my one of my teammates, Lee Hunter,

676
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Speaker 10: who's from there, and uh, you know, getting to know

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Speaker 10: him and a lot of other players from around the

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Speaker 10: country who are you know, really really good in their

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Speaker 10: own right. And Yeah, it's just been a really fun

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Speaker 10: experience and you know, happy and blessed that I was

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Speaker 10: able to be in this position.

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Speaker 5: It's going to be a Texas Tech Draft with Lee Hunter,

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Speaker 5: with David Bailey, with yourself. There's there's a whole bunch

684
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Speaker 5: of guys, was news Key. There's a whole bunch of

685
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Speaker 5: guys that are coming to the NFL. I mean, how

686
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Speaker 5: how well did you bond this year with a lot

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Speaker 5: of new players that just came on board this year?

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Speaker 10: Jake, Yeah, it was a lot of new guys and

689
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Speaker 10: it just kind of worked out for us where we

690
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Speaker 10: ended up moving to a new facility here in Lubbock,

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Speaker 10: and uh, we actually got new offense and defense coordinators

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Speaker 10: this past year, and so being able to you know,

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Speaker 10: bring the guys in and it wasn't just you know,

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Speaker 10: the new guys and old guys, as we were just

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Speaker 10: the guys and so getting to know them on a

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Speaker 10: personal level, get to know about their families, get to

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Speaker 10: know about, you know, what they care about, and really

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Speaker 10: just invested in them as people. And then you kind

699
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Speaker 10: of see how hard they work on the field, and

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Speaker 10: you know, you can only respect how hard they work.

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Speaker 8: And so yeah, it was it was great.

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Speaker 10: It was easy for us to mesh together and we

703
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Speaker 10: had a lot of fun doing it, and you know,

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Speaker 10: I think that produces to you know, help them win

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Speaker 10: football games. And so it definitely helped us a lot

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Speaker 10: this year. And you know, I'm thankful for all the

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Speaker 10: connections that we were able to make here and love it.

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Speaker 2: Jacob.

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Speaker 5: I was in Lubbock for your first game against BYU.

710
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Speaker 5: You had a heck of a day. Herb streets up

711
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Speaker 5: there and he's talking about the mustache and everybody like

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Speaker 5: everybody wants a mustache like Jacob Rodriguez.

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Speaker 2: Like when did you start growing it? Is it gonna

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Speaker 2: get better?

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Speaker 5: If I could have a mustache like that, Jacob, I

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Speaker 5: would wear that proudly every day. What's what's the history

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Speaker 5: and the evolution of this right here?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, so we uh we actually did it in springball,

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Speaker 10: you know, a couple of years ago as a as

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Speaker 10: a position group, just one to try to grow the

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Speaker 10: room and and you know, get closer to something that

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Speaker 10: we could do for fun, and uh kind of be

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Speaker 10: a little fun thing that we did for the spring

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Speaker 10: and end up sticking. And you know, my wife ended

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Speaker 10: up really liking it, and so I couldn't get rid

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Speaker 10: of it, you know after that, and so something I

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Speaker 10: had to keep and it just kind of became part

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Speaker 10: of my identity and uh, yeah, it'll be it'll be

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Speaker 10: with me for a while.

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Speaker 5: Happy wife, happy life, Jacob. I mean, you know that

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Speaker 5: goes together right there. Listen, thanks for joining us here

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Speaker 5: today on the insiders. We can't wait to see where

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Speaker 5: you go in the draft and follow the next chapter

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Speaker 5: of your career. Jacob, thanks a lot, buddy, appreciateure.

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Speaker 8: Thank you. Yeah, it's been a pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Big time training in the NFL. Got together on Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Trent McDuffie, standout cornerback for the Kanca Chiefs, now headed

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Speaker 1: to the La Rams in exchange for four picks, including

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs first rounder in this year's draft. Pooka Nakua

740
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Speaker 1: among others, fired up for this deal. Pooka who's tweeting

741
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Speaker 1: about Trent McDuffie some years ago.

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Speaker 2: Another Washington connection.

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Speaker 1: Now Husky's getting together out there in LA where what

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Speaker 1: do you know? Are Omar Ruiz and Steve Weiss are

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Speaker 1: standing by to break this down from the scene of it.

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Speaker 11: Gentlemen, Hey, Tommy, you talk about the University of Washington

747
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Speaker 11: now on the RAMS staff once again, Jimmy Lake, the

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Speaker 11: former coach there of Trent McDuffie, and talking to people

749
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Speaker 11: in the building, Jimmy Lake telling people that he loves

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Speaker 11: Trent McDuffie. So this is something that when you talk

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Speaker 11: about a RAMS defense. We've been talking for so many

752
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Speaker 11: years now, Steve about this young nucleus that's come along.

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Speaker 11: Three years ago it was a wildcard loss, then two

754
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Speaker 11: years ago it was a Divisional round loss, and last

755
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Speaker 11: year the NFC Championship Game lone. And now they're bringing

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Speaker 11: in a two time Super Bowl champion to help further

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Speaker 11: this RAMS defense. In a way that was described to me,

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Speaker 11: they could become men together, and obviously with Trent duffy

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Speaker 11: the way he plays, he was described to me as

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Speaker 11: a perfect gram somebody who plays tough, somebody who loves

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Speaker 11: to tackle, somebody who loves to play hard, and he's

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Speaker 11: going to love the guys that he's playing with, all

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Speaker 11: that talent up front, all coming back the way they're

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Speaker 11: going to bond together. They're expecting to become dominant. Consistency

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Speaker 11: consistently is what they're looking for in twenty twenty six, Steve,

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Speaker 11: because they've been dominant at times, but sometimes admittedly they've

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Speaker 11: become they had a little holes in them. So they're

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Speaker 11: looking to get that consistency. And when you talk about

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Speaker 11: a scheme fit, where Trent McDuffie seems like he hits

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Speaker 11: there too as well.

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Speaker 7: Well, he's a scheme fit, but he's also going to

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Speaker 7: be a dictator to help the scheme. So let's think

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Speaker 7: about the Seattle Seahawks and what they had in their

774
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Speaker 7: secondary and safety Nick Eamon Warri and cornerback Devin Witherspoon,

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Speaker 7: two queens on the chessboard. This is what McDuffie does

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Speaker 7: for the LA. Spoke to somebody over there today and

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Speaker 7: now the schematics at what.

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Speaker 2: They're able to do.

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Speaker 7: They can go Nickel with three corners, with McDuffie inside

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Speaker 7: or outside Lake. They can go three safeties big Nickel

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Speaker 7: or Lake can play back, and they can have McDuffie

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Speaker 7: at one of the ball at the outside spots or

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Speaker 7: inside spots. So the fact now that they've got these

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Speaker 7: two versatal pieces the secondary omar. This is where they

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Speaker 7: could do a lot of games up front with that

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Speaker 7: young defensive line. So they are super excited, not just

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Speaker 7: because what McDuffie brings, but because to him and the

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Speaker 7: combination with Quinton Lake. Now you again look at the

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Speaker 7: Seattle Seahawks secondary with us By and Eemon Wori, They've

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Speaker 7: got something similar now in LA.

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Speaker 11: When you look at the Rams roster going into the offseason,

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Speaker 11: they had four corners that were unrestricted free agents. So

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Speaker 11: bringing in McDuffie solves one of those equations. They still

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Speaker 11: have Emmanual Forbes on the roster, a former first round pick,

795
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Speaker 11: and they have the number thirteen pick. Yes, they traded

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Speaker 11: the number twenty nine overall pick to the Chiefs, but

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Speaker 11: they still have the Falcons pick that they acquired last year,

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Speaker 11: number thirteen overall. All that in mind, Steve, where they

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Speaker 11: looking for free agency next week, Well.

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Speaker 7: They're still cornerback hunting now, whether it comes to free agency,

801
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Speaker 7: in the draft or oh Les, Steve, we can make

802
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Speaker 7: another trade. They still want to get another corner that's

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Speaker 7: a very solid player in the scheme against They could

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Speaker 7: move McDuffie inside or outside. You've got another corner who

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Speaker 7: could hold stuff down on that boundaryar in the open field.

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Speaker 7: That's whe McDuffie again. I talked to him by being

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Speaker 7: a queen on the chessboard. That's where he could be

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Speaker 7: more of a queen with another corner on that outside.

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Speaker 11: Yes, So a lot of optimism for the Rams heading

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Speaker 11: into free agency next week, and obviously the drafts still

811
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Speaker 11: maintaining one of those first round picks. We mentioned Jimmy

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Speaker 11: Lake a little earlier in this segment. He was part

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Speaker 11: of the third annual Ornell Dirden Coaches Symposium that the

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Speaker 11: Rams hosted. We know RAMS famously don't send their coaches

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Speaker 11: to the combine anymore, but they are giving back to

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Speaker 11: the community. Jimmy Lake running backs coach Ron Gould, inside

817
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Speaker 11: linebackers coach Greg Williams speaking to local high school coaches.

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Speaker 2: There were college coaches there.

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Speaker 11: As well, men unt health advocates all to help the

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Speaker 11: local coaches in the LA community get better and continue

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Speaker 11: to develop kids in the community. So good on them

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Speaker 11: for continuing to better the Los Angeles area around them.

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Speaker 11: That in mind, let's send it back to Tom Pellisero now.

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Speaker 1: Omar Steve, thank you both very much. We also have

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Speaker 1: some sad news to pass along tonight out of Green Bay,

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Speaker 1: where former Packers President and CEO Bob Harland passed away

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Speaker 1: today following a brief illness at the age of eighty nine.

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Speaker 1: Packers President's CEO ED Policy said Bob was a visionary

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Speaker 1: leader whose impact on the franchise was transformational. Mister Roger

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Speaker 1: Goodell also released his statements saying the entire NFL family

831
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Speaker 1: mourns the loss of longtime Green Bay Packers CEO Bob Harlan.

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Speaker 1: I knew Bob personally and my days as a young

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Speaker 1: reporter at the Green Bay Press Gazette. An absolute gem

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Speaker 1: of a man who was kind to me every time

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Speaker 1: that I saw him. In the years to come, he

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Speaker 1: will absolutely be missed. Bob Harlan, who joined the Packers

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Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy one, serves as his principal executive until

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Speaker 1: his retirement January two thousand and eight.

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Speaker 2: Dead today at the age of eighty nine.

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Speaker 1: The only thing better than free agents set to music

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Speaker 1: is finding out where they're going to sign. And you

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Speaker 1: will get those answers right here on The Insiders special

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Speaker 1: editions and times all next week Sunday, seven pm Eastern Time.

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Speaker 1: We will set the table ahead of the launch of

845
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Speaker 1: the negotiating period on Monday, two hour shows starting six

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Speaker 1: pm Eastern Time Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday. That is the crunch,

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Speaker 1: that's the main news thrust of this entire event. No

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Speaker 1: place better to be than right here on NFL Network.

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Speaker 1: Some pre draft news earlier today, the Browns getting to

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Speaker 1: jump start on their so called thirty visits former Alabama

851
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Speaker 1: quarterback Ty Simpson as well as former Ohio state wide

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Speaker 1: receiver Carnel Tait both in the building. Ty Simpson consensus

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Speaker 1: QB two. In this strapt, Browns do have two first

854
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Speaker 1: round picks because they bring in competent petition for Deshaun

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Speaker 1: Watson and Shaduor Sanders tysims who would certainly fit that.

856
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Speaker 1: Bill Carnell Tait didn't run particularly fast in Indianapolis, but

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Speaker 1: certainly has been a top prospect.

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Speaker 2: Moving through the process, we also got some.

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Speaker 1: Teams getting deals done, including the Seahawks extending linebacker Drake

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Speaker 1: Thomas's contract two years, eight million, a chance to make

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Speaker 1: up to nine Drake Thomas Scott is so good Gohawks.

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Speaker 1: You'll hear that many many times. Go Super Bowl Championhawks.

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Speaker 1: Even better, it came at the expense of the forty

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Speaker 1: nine ers. You now have a new defensive staff, Robert

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Speaker 1: Sola and Gus Bradley off to Tennessee Raheem Morrison as

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Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 2: And how about Matt Eberflutes.

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Speaker 1: The former Bears head coach and Cowboys defensive coordinator, coming

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Speaker 1: aboard as the assistant head coach of defense, Which brings

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Speaker 1: us to a very important question, Judy Batista, if you

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Speaker 1: could be the assistant of anything.

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Speaker 3: What would it be, Man, does it have to be football.

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Speaker 3: I don't need it to be football assistant.

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Speaker 1: I'd run everything, assistance of everything that seems like a

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Speaker 1: big that seems like a big job right now, I

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Speaker 1: just think you need a lozenge.

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Speaker 2: Really would probably help. We got a big show tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Edward Cooper's on the show. See you then,