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Speaker 1: of Forgotten Seasons. Today we're going to be doing something

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Speaker 1: a little bit different. If you were following last week,

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Speaker 1: five project. Everybody that's involved at Showtime Basketball just feels

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Speaker 1: seventy five lists that deserve the same shine and recognition,

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Speaker 1: And I think that in general, real basketball fans feel

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Speaker 2: Anytime when you can pick.

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Speaker 1: The brain of Penny heart Away, think you want to

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Speaker 1: listen to Matt and Stack chop it up with Penny

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Speaker 1: on the nineteen nineties Next seventy five. We did the

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighties with John Sally last week. You can check

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Speaker 1: that out on the Showtime Basketball YouTube page. It is

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Speaker 1: in last week's episode of What's Burning. Hope you guys enjoy.

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Speaker 1: you feel about this Next seventy five project. I've had

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to What's Burning Next seventy five list Man Today.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited about this because we grew up watching this era.

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Speaker 3: We're going to talk about nineties basketball. It was a

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Speaker 3: our brother Penny Hardaway. Penny, welcome back to the show

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Speaker 3: Man Man.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me back.

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Speaker 4: Mane listen, Yeah, by giving you great hairs out there,

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Speaker 4: yet they're giving you gray hairs out there yet?

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Speaker 3: Well, Penny, what we're doing here is we're doing the

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Speaker 3: When you first saw the seventy five list, obviously respect

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Speaker 5: Honestly, I was like, I should be on that list.

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Speaker 3: So that was kind of my you know, beef, trying

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Speaker 4: Pennon Hardaway. Vince Carter is not on the list. Burn

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Speaker 6: I know obviously the job keeps you busy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm definitely keeping up with the playoffs right now.

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Speaker 4: Your boy J Kidd use a backcourt made with him.

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Speaker 4: Y'all led the map to as wiping against the Sun.

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Speaker 4: What do you think he's telling Luca for Luca to

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Speaker 5: ask me, I've been there. That's what he's saying to Luca.

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Speaker 6: You surprised that he's becoming a great coach.

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Speaker 5: No, I'm not surprised that Jaki is becoming a great

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Speaker 3: Before we get into the next seventy five talk, paint

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Speaker 3: a picture of what the league was like in ninety three,

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Speaker 3: right now someone who I firmly believe you two. You

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Speaker 2: It was dominant, bro and he was. He was smooth

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Speaker 3: he's someone you would definitely put on this next seventy

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, easily.

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Speaker 5: You know, he's a guy that definitely arguably if you

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Speaker 5: in the top seventy five, I think it's top five years.

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Speaker 5: You know, I like no other like they're second to none. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: Thanks.

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Speaker 4: Next up, we got Glenn Rice, who three year peak

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Speaker 6: Started every game in the Lakers two thousand title run. Eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Man just a dog, a guy that just he was

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Speaker 2: a shooter. But he was tough. You know, most shooters

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Speaker 5: He was gonna play d he was gonna try to fight,

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Speaker 5: have Glenn Rice in there. Glenn Rice is one of

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Speaker 5: the best shooters I've ever seen. Man, that dude could

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Speaker 5: get it done. Definitely, like one of the best shooters

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Speaker 5: I've seen.

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Speaker 4: Three time All Start, two thousand NBA Champ, two time

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Speaker 4: All NBA nineteen eighty nine, ninety All Rookie, nineteen ninety six,

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Speaker 5: I was part of that. Also, MVPG should be giving

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Speaker 5: was giving him all them dimes. Staton was feeding in

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Speaker 5: and she got hot. Got the mvv Next.

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Speaker 3: Up, Alonso Mornings. Zoe fifteen year pro. At his peak

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Speaker 3: three year run, he was twenty points, ten rebounds, three blocks,

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Speaker 3: talk to us about Zoe when because he played in

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Speaker 5: And you said those numbers nineteen and nineteen and nine

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Speaker 5: Come on, bro, plan against dream, playing against pat playing

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Speaker 5: against the Admiral, playing against those matchups, Shack Sabonis, all

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Speaker 2: And to be able to do that, Bro, he was

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 5: That dude just man played injured, played through everything, and

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Speaker 5: competed his butt off every single night. Definitely with somebody

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Speaker 5: And it's not like I'm just kissing everybody's ass for

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Speaker 6: Absolutely era.

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Speaker 4: Not in that era did Kimba Mutombo three year peak

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Speaker 4: two points per game, twelve rebounds per game, four blocks

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Speaker 4: three time block Chap nineteen ninety one, ninety two All

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Speaker 5: Kimba is one of the very few guys. You can

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Speaker 2: And that's priceless. Man.

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Speaker 5: You know, you put him in the same boat with

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Speaker 2: This guy just dominated.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 5: He was not He took pride in what he did.

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Speaker 5: He didn't care if he scored a point, as long

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Speaker 5: as he got five six blocks, fifteen sixteen, seventeen rebounds.

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Speaker 5: And he was gonna bring that every night. That's something

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Speaker 3: That's a fun cut. I mean as a guard, that

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Speaker 3: that's the kind of big you would love, right you.

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Speaker 3: I Mean he's gonna go on the defense and I

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Speaker 6: I mean, there's a guard.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure people love playing with the kim Bay all

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Speaker 6: That's a beautiful thing for guards. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I don't see Robin making and he don't make it,

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Speaker 5: That's what that was a good comparison, I think Robin

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Speaker 5: think I think Deacon's on that on that level man,

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Speaker 3: Next up, someone I really respected in love coming up,

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Speaker 3: Rod Strickland his three year peak seventeen ten. Kyrie ive

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Speaker 3: your average at least seven assists for ten straight years,

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Speaker 3: ninety seven, ninety eight, NBA All Star, eighty eight, eighty

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Speaker 5: Ridiculous man, just so smooth, had all the different finishes

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Speaker 5: he was. Kyrie back in the day, for sure, had

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Speaker 5: the nastiest, hiszy, nastiest headed. He won't even shoot it,

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Speaker 5: but he made you believe this shit that he was.

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Speaker 5: Don't shoot it, that's how nice he was.

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Speaker 2: He'd hiszy you ass and be by you, and he

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Speaker 5: He was nasty dog. He was he was he was

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Speaker 5: like really he was ahead of his time because he

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Speaker 5: this thing back then. But he is nasty, nasty, big

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Speaker 2: The game, nonchalant and just just give you buckets and

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Speaker 6: How tall was he? He's like six three, six four

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Speaker 2: No, about sixty four.

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Speaker 6: Okay, here's what I thought.

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Speaker 4: Next up, Tim Hardaway, three year peak, twenty two points

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Speaker 4: per game, mister Texas two step ten assist for game

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Speaker 4: killed for an entire decade, would run TMC of course,

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Speaker 4: in the nineties and with the heat Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you something about that cat. He had

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Speaker 5: He had fear in the league. That crossover was what

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean That it could. Honestly he had.

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Speaker 2: He was one of the few guards to me that

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Speaker 5: When you knew he was coming to town, you had

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Speaker 5: He was relentless. He wanted to dog you and he

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Speaker 3: One of the better European players to grace the NBA stage.

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Speaker 3: Drazen Petrovich, his two year peak twenty one points a game,

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Speaker 3: they wasn't really shooting threes like that, made all NBA

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Speaker 5: Major major game He made, could shoot threes, He could

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Speaker 5: get by you. He was tough, He took tough shots,

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Speaker 5: made tough shots. It was all about his energy.

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Speaker 2: Though.

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Speaker 5: He was high energy for the entire game. He didn't

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Speaker 5: lit up one time he was in kill Moo. The

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Speaker 5: ready to attack. He could shoot it, he could finish,

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Speaker 5: he could do it all man, he was. He was

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Speaker 5: very nice, very nice player.

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Speaker 4: Next up we got money Mitch Richmond, West Coast Jordan, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: West Coast Johnes. We were just talking about him.

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Speaker 4: Three year peak, twenty four points for game, four sis

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Speaker 4: per game forty one percent from three twenty k Carell points.

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Speaker 4: Made All NBA Team five years straight, Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 4: of course, six time NBA All Star two thousand and two,

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Speaker 4: Our Rookie Team, nineteen ninety four, ninety five All Star,

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Speaker 4: And he not in the top seventy five.

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Speaker 6: This is crazy.

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Speaker 5: Come on, man, West Coast Jordan, Man, that's peaks for itself.

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Speaker 5: When you get that title, you know you're getting buckets.

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Speaker 5: You can go before the before the game start. He

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Speaker 5: twenty five on there.

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Speaker 2: I'm just telling you.

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Speaker 5: He can go to the scores team like put twenty five.

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Speaker 5: He gonna get that no matter what you do. Fundamentals.

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Speaker 5: Triple thread just played out a triple thread. A lot

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Speaker 5: could shoot it, you know, could post you just for

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Speaker 5: smooth man, but he was gonna get his buckets. You

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Speaker 5: wren't stopping him from getting twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: He played defense. I remember Michael Jordier. He was one

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Speaker 3: Mitch used to lock up. I remember coming well, you know,

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Speaker 3: obviously being from Sack, watching him coming up. Just what

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Speaker 3: with not much help.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and get it done nightly.

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Speaker 6: Ye. Next up, someone I really look up to.

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Speaker 3: Obviously didn't have huge numbers, but still did put up

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Speaker 3: or you know stretched.

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Speaker 6: Four three man in Houston hit big.

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Speaker 3: Shots, but seven times NBA champ all rookie ninety two

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Speaker 2: I called him misster. You gotta have him, You got

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Speaker 2: to have him on your team. That's what I call him.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 5: He just I don't give a damn like this dude

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Speaker 5: made so many big shots. He just had an IQ

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Speaker 5: that was out of his world.

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Speaker 2: He knew who he was.

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Speaker 5: He didn't never try to be anybody else outside of

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Speaker 5: who he was. Tough defender, took on a lot guarding

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Speaker 5: the other team's best players, and man spread the floor.

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Speaker 5: top two or three guys that ever spaced the floor.

439
00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,440
Speaker 5: You couldn't leave them, especially when the game is on

440
00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:13,520
Speaker 5: the line. At sixteen. Yeah, think about that. At sixteen

441
00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,359
Speaker 5: perfect teammate. From the point of view of he would

442
00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,119
Speaker 5: get on the star players ass. He wasn't scared to

443
00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,600
Speaker 5: speak up. He was a pure winner. He was a

444
00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:25,680
Speaker 5: total team guy, and he just the IQ understood. He

445
00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,560
Speaker 5: just helped everybody else on the floor while he was

446
00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,640
Speaker 5: out there. You just tell he was just a floor general.

447
00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,600
Speaker 5: From that point of view. He never had to be

448
00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,680
Speaker 5: the best player, but he was always one of the

449
00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:34,320
Speaker 5: most important.

450
00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,600
Speaker 6: This next guy, man was specially not only for me,

451
00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,360
Speaker 6: but for the world. He's from Texas.

452
00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,400
Speaker 4: This three year peak twenty points per game, nine rebounds

453
00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,080
Speaker 4: per game for US six per game. Was a number

454
00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:48,000
Speaker 4: one pick in nineteen ninety big cultural influence with Grandmam

455
00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,119
Speaker 4: two time All Start ninety one, ninety two All Rookie

456
00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,280
Speaker 4: Rookie of the Year ninety two to ninety three All NBA.

457
00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,960
Speaker 4: Larry Johnson, Grandmama, Yeah, did he influence little pin there

458
00:19:58,960 --> 00:19:59,240
Speaker 4: at all?

459
00:19:59,560 --> 00:19:59,720
Speaker 6: Hell?

460
00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because he did it before me. You know

461
00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:03,879
Speaker 2: That's how That's how cold Dew was.

462
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,040
Speaker 5: Man, If you won't a fan of Larry Johnson at UNLV,

463
00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,800
Speaker 5: you just want a fan of basketball, go ripped chiseled

464
00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,600
Speaker 5: constraint to three the gold too with the part.

465
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:14,080
Speaker 2: Down the middle.

466
00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:21,119
Speaker 5: I mean, tough, great teammate, skilled, He just man with

467
00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,360
Speaker 5: his size, the way that he can move, his toughness,

468
00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,120
Speaker 5: his willingness to just be a great teammate. It didn't

469
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,080
Speaker 5: always have to be about him. You have to share

470
00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,200
Speaker 5: the spotlight with you know, Alonzo and those guys. Man,

471
00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,679
Speaker 5: and just to me, was just a perfect teammate. Went

472
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,960
Speaker 5: to New York, did the same thing, stayed around a

473
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,040
Speaker 5: long time because of his professionalism. Just but as a ballplayer, man,

474
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,160
Speaker 5: that dude was a stereotypical basketball player. Guy you want

475
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,119
Speaker 5: riding with you, You wanted a foxhole with you. You

476
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:47,480
Speaker 5: knew he was ready at all times.

477
00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,240
Speaker 2: LJ. His name is not mentioned enough.

478
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,720
Speaker 6: Another guy out from my way.

479
00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 3: His three year peak twenty two and eleven, one of

480
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,720
Speaker 3: six players that ever averaged twenty to ten three or

481
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,120
Speaker 3: more times, along with Maddy Johnson, James hard and Russell Westbrook,

482
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,680
Speaker 3: Isaiah Thomas, and Oscar Robinson. Three time All Star, five

483
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 3: time All NBA Most Improved eighty eight eighty nine season.

484
00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 6: Kevin Johnson kJ.

485
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 2: Had fearing people too.

486
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 5: I'll talk about Tim hardaway, but when you had to

487
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 5: play Kevin Johnson, man kJ was He wasn't a trash talker.

488
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,639
Speaker 2: He just knew he was good. He just like worked

489
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 2: on this game. He just little.

490
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 5: He had a little skip cross or that little skip

491
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,880
Speaker 5: that he went into. Unstoppable. Man, he could shoot the mini.

492
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:29,680
Speaker 5: He wasn't a big three point shooter, but he could

493
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 5: make him. But man, he could finish. He could do everything.

494
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 6: Man.

495
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 5: That was one of my favorite favorite teammates. I got

496
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,919
Speaker 5: a chance to play with him one year, and man,

497
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,680
Speaker 5: he just taught me so much of being about being

498
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,760
Speaker 5: a professional, giving me books all the time just to

499
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 5: you know, to keep my knowledge strong. Obviously becoming the mayor.

500
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 5: True professional was able to do his job and not

501
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:48,959
Speaker 5: have an ego on helping everybody else do theirs at

502
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 5: a high level.

503
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 2: Had fear in the league.

504
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,199
Speaker 6: Next guy, I kind of was like a little bit

505
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 6: for the way I played with passion.

506
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,639
Speaker 4: He had a three year peak of twenty points per

507
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 4: game for assist for game, for a rebounds with game

508
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 4: five seasons with forty players minutes per game. Only four

509
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 4: players in the nineties made first Team All NBA, and

510
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,879
Speaker 4: that rookie and sophomore season Spree where you Sim Duncan

511
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 4: and David Robinson full time Mall Star nineteen ninety two

512
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 4: nine three, Our Rookie Team nineteen nine three, Our Defense

513
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 4: nineteen niney three ninety four Our NBA Latrell Spree.

514
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 6: Will Spree was.

515
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,879
Speaker 2: My dog man. Sree just gonna compete.

516
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 6: Man.

517
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 5: He just kind of kept a chip on the shoulders

518
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 5: because it felt like to him he wouldn't getting it

519
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 5: just due. So every night he went out, Man, he

520
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 5: was on the list. It was like Remy.

521
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 2: He was Remy. He had the list. He had to

522
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 2: hit list.

523
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 5: He's like, dude, if you're supposed to be better than me,

524
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 5: I got you. He's supposed to be better than me,

525
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 5: I got you. A nightly basis, he was showing the league.

526
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:43,880
Speaker 2: I'm that dude.

527
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,360
Speaker 5: I know everybody in my position is gonna be ranked

528
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,719
Speaker 5: ahead of me. Watch my numbers. When I played him,

529
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 5: that was free.

530
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 6: Took that shit personal.

531
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 2: He did. It was personal every single night.

532
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, he played with that passion, like Jack said, like

533
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,400
Speaker 5: Stack said, they they played with that passion like that chip.

534
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,359
Speaker 2: You could tell that played with that chip. He played

535
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:02,120
Speaker 2: with that chip as well.

536
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 3: Next up, Sean kemp three year peak nineteen eleven, two

537
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 3: blocks and a steal and a half, fifteen thousand career points,

538
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 3: six time all start, three times all NBA, The rain Man.

539
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 5: Man, coming out of high school, athletic freak to me,

540
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,400
Speaker 5: went to the Perfect Franchise with Gary Payton. They both

541
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 5: acted the food together. They were Sean Kemp Man. He

542
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 5: couldn't be stopped. They couldn't stop Sean Kemp bro. He

543
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,400
Speaker 5: was a matcho problem for everybody because he was faster

544
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 5: than a big He was bigger than somebody smaller.

545
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 2: He was athletic.

546
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 5: He could finish even stress his jump shot out about

547
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 5: seventeen eighteen hen and shoot threes or whatever. But he

548
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 5: could block your shot and then finish the break with

549
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 5: a dunk guard you ninety four feet up the floor.

550
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 5: He was as fast as a guard. He could jump

551
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 5: higher than you. He's a freaking nature.

552
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 6: He's a freak.

553
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 2: He was kind of like a Lebron without the handles

554
00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 2: man because he was a matcho problem.

555
00:23:59,359 --> 00:23:59,880
Speaker 6: He was fast.

556
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 2: He can get up and down that floor. You could

557
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 2: take off.

558
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 6: You know.

559
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 5: He didn't have to play making ability to bron headle

560
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 5: the ball handling, but as far as the freakish nature

561
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 5: of their size and how fast they were and how

562
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 5: they could dominate the game just from going coast to

563
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 5: coast problem problem, problem, child like Greek freak and GP

564
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 5: used to put that octane in them, no question, the

565
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 5: whole game. That's all he needed GP to talk, talk

566
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 5: crazy and get him locked in.

567
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 6: GP can do that. Next next guy.

568
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:33,640
Speaker 4: Three year peak twenty six points per game, six rebounds,

569
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 4: four assists, just under eighteen k career points. Five straight

570
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 4: seasons with twenty five points per game from May to

571
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 4: the nine to ninety three.

572
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 6: Hall of Famer, five time All Star, four time All NBA.

573
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 6: One of my home boys. He was with the Wars

574
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 6: when we was there. Chris Mullen.

575
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 5: Oh, Molly, come on, man, Molly was not athletic, can

576
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 5: handle it good enough to get space. All he needed

577
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 5: was space and your ass was he was. He was

578
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 5: like my boys said, he was shooting your face off.

579
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,360
Speaker 2: He was so smooth man.

580
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 5: It's just I just remember watching money at Saint John's

581
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 5: just battle against everybody.

582
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 2: He was no punk, he was tough.

583
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 5: So to be able to come out on a nightly

584
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 5: basis in that era to play against all those athletes

585
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 5: and all that toughness and still be able to get

586
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 5: yours at a high level. And you weren't going to

587
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 5: beat anybody off speed, you weren't going to beat anybody

588
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 5: off athleticism.

589
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 2: You just had to get the space man. Molly was

590
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 2: nasty man, very nasty.

591
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 6: Lefty, lucky lefty. Next up.

592
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if you got a chance to play

593
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 3: against him. Reggie Lewis three year peak twenty points five

594
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 3: rebounds a game, average twenty eight points a game in

595
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 3: the ninety two playoffs. We had Muggsy on the show

596
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 3: a few weeks ago. He said he used to really

597
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 3: give MJ problems. Unfortunately passed away in ninety three. One

598
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 3: time all start under his belt. Tell us what you

599
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 3: know about REGGI Lewis.

600
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 5: I didn't play against Reggie, but I know a lot

601
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 5: about Reggie. You know, I follow him from the Baltimore days,

602
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 5: in high school, in the college, and into the NBA.

603
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 5: It was just freakish man like. He was a defender.

604
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 5: He was long, he could score it on three levels.

605
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 5: He could push it, he could post you, he could

606
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 5: get around you. He went to a great franchise, obviously

607
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 5: with the Celtics, that allowed him to showcase his game

608
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 5: with some other great players.

609
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 2: But it was nasty man. He was another guy that

610
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 2: gave the league problems.

611
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 6: Can you compare him to anybody? Penny, off the top

612
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 6: of your head.

613
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 5: Who could I compare Reggie too? Because he was kind

614
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 5: of his own style player. But I think he just

615
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 5: had a style of it. So I can't think of

616
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 5: anybody that was was like Reggie. I'm sure I could

617
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 5: if I just got off this call and was like, okay,

618
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 5: I could have compared it to this person of that person.

619
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 5: But he was long on both fast, he was Atlantic,

620
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:35,719
Speaker 5: he did it on both ends.

621
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 6: Two way play love it next Up.

622
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 4: Three year peak eighteen points per game, seven rebounds per game,

623
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 4: four assists per game, fifteen k career points, two times

624
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 4: six Man of the Year, one of the best six

625
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 4: man ever, three times All Star, ninety ninety four All

626
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:51,959
Speaker 4: NBA Debt Lift Shrimp.

627
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, dead level was a problem man. He just knew

628
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 5: how to play. His IQ took him over the hump.

629
00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 5: Wasn't crazy, athletic, wasn't fast. Basically was the chalk barket

630
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 5: before Charlee. He walking you down, He getting you down

631
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 5: to that. But he making plays out of the post.

632
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 5: You know, he was a guy that he could score

633
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 5: it or he could make plays out of the post.

634
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 2: High IQ.

635
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 5: Knew the game defensively, just was tough enough not to

636
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 5: let you beat him up, you know what I mean.

637
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 2: Just he was just smart.

638
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:15,360
Speaker 3: Man.

639
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 5: He was one of those problems when he came on

640
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 5: the court, his plus minuses, he was always gonna be

641
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 5: on the plus side because he knew how to move

642
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 5: the ball, he knew how to get to his areas

643
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 5: to get the shot, and he was just he was

644
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 5: a good teammate man. He was just one of those

645
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 5: guys that was a problem for the other team. It

646
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 5: was hard to get ready to play against him because

647
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 5: he's sixty eleven, sixteen, sixty eleven and you had to

648
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 5: put a big on him and.

649
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 2: He was like a guard.

650
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 6: Skill that left next up.

651
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 3: Steve Smith three year peak nineteen four and four, had

652
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 3: great runs while I was with the Hawks, Miami and Portland.

653
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 3: One time All Star two thousand and three, NBA Champ

654
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 3: ninety one, ninety two All Rookie Team.

655
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 6: You ever get hit with the Schmidty didn't.

656
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 2: I knew the Smitty was coming because he was one

657
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 2: of my favorite players, so I didn't get.

658
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 6: Hit with it.

659
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 2: He knew when he was about to do it, So

660
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,199
Speaker 2: when he got sideways, I think that was like, you're

661
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 2: gonna have to take that. Get me with that. Smitty

662
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 2: one of my all time favorite players.

663
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 6: Man.

664
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 5: When he was at Michigan State, Hugh Mungus, fan of Smithy.

665
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 5: So when he went into the league, Washington get drafted

666
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 5: by Miami, he got hurt early, which man just really

667
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 5: made me sad. But dude, I got a chance that

668
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 5: he was in Miami when I went to Orlando. Just

669
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 5: nasty man, just very tough, get to his spots, post

670
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 5: you up, was smooth, wasn't crazy athletic, but could fool

671
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 5: you every now and then with some athleticism, smart enough

672
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 5: on defense to not let you, you know, beat him

673
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 5: off the first dribble of second dribble, and just kind

674
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 5: of man. Just was my type of dude. Man just

675
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 5: was a winner. He was tough, He could shoot mini

676
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 5: post up. He was one of the best post up

677
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 5: guards in the league.

678
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 4: Ever ever by far. I always say that that's who.

679
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 4: That's who taught me in two thousand and three. He

680
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 4: was like, you can shoot three is. If you get

681
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 4: your post game, you're gonna last a long time in

682
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 4: this league. And his post game was unbelievable.

683
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 2: Bro, crazy, real crap. He knew how to just use momentum.

684
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 2: Get to that rack.

685
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 6: Next guy.

686
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 4: A three year peak seventeen points per game, five rebounds

687
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 4: per game for assistple game played a huge role in

688
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 4: the Sun's trip to the nineteen ninety three finals, average

689
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 4: fifteen six and four and played forty five minutes per

690
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 4: games in the nineteen three playoffs. Three time All Star,

691
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 4: two time All Defensive Team Dan Marley.

692
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 6: He was tough.

693
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 2: Th Underdamn was tough.

694
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 6: Bro.

695
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 5: He had to take on the assignment of guarding all

696
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 5: the other team's best players. And you already know when

697
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 5: you're in the league. He was athletic enough because when

698
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 5: Dan first came in the league, he was thunder Dan.

699
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 5: He was getting up dunking. Everybody was knocking everything. The

700
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 5: thing that I respect about him is that when this

701
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 5: athleticism left, he still figured out a way to still

702
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 5: guard the other team's best players. He wasn't jumping as high.

703
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 5: He was just tough enough to just fight you, contest

704
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 5: every shot, and would knock down big three's on a

705
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 5: night of the basis, he was definitely somebody that I

706
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 5: enjoyed watching man because he was gonna You didn't have

707
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 5: to worry about him peak and competing.

708
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 2: He was going to compete every single night.

709
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 3: Man next up, one of my favorite players, someone who

710
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 3: did so much for the game, revolutionized the point guard position.

711
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 3: Three year peak, twenty one seven assists for rebounds, four

712
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 3: time All Star, three time All NBA ninety three, ninety

713
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 3: four All Rookie Team, none other than yourself.

714
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, he was all right, man, you know some

715
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 2: night now, But just.

716
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 3: Talk to us about Like I said, you came in

717
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 3: and really changed the point guard position.

718
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 6: You know what I mean.

719
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 3: Obviously Magic came before you, but you came with that size,

720
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 3: that athleticism, mid range, three pointer post, get to the basket.

721
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 6: Like you said, your seven.

722
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 3: Year run, you could put that up against anybody's to

723
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 3: ever play this game. But how much fun were you

724
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 3: having and revolutionizing the game at the same time.

725
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 6: Yeah.

726
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 5: First of all, you know, I got to give a

727
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 5: lot of that credit to Magic because Magic was my guy,

728
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 5: even though I was more athletic than him. I grew

729
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 5: up watching that that style, that Showtime style, So that's

730
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 5: what I took into the league, everything that I watched

731
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 5: him do, everything that I learned about the game about

732
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 5: giving up assists. I wasn't really a hardcore score I

733
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 5: wasn't gonna go at your throat because I had Shaq,

734
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 5: I had other guys around me. I was more of

735
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 5: a guy like bron I was gonna make everybody better.

736
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 5: I didn't have the Kobe mentality to come in and

737
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 5: be like, I'm just gonna try to go for fifty.

738
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 5: I felt like I was gonna get twenty falling off

739
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 5: along just from just my talent and just god giving,

740
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 5: god giving ability. But I knew I had to make

741
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 5: everybody else better. So coming in, man, I was I

742
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 5: was trying to take that Laker style into Orlando Showtime,

743
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 5: make Dennis Scott better, make Nickannis some better, make Cards

744
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 5: Grant better, make Sheck better, but still be able to

745
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 5: take over the games whenever I needed to. And it

746
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 5: was fun, man, because I felt like I had one

747
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 5: of the best teams and never won a ring. And

748
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 5: it's sad to say, because I was part of that

749
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 5: unbelievable group of guys that we never got over the hump.

750
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 5: But I had a ton of fun, man, playing with

751
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 5: those guys.

752
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 4: Hey, I got a quick question. So recently, probably the

753
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 4: last couple of months, it's been a move that you

754
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 4: made in the game. That's all that's all over social media.

755
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 4: Let me ask you this question. Was it a move

756
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 4: you worked on or that just happened out of instick.

757
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 4: I'm talking about the spin step back three. It's all

758
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 4: over social media.

759
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 2: It was instinct. You gotta understand, like I never I

760
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 2: never worked on that move and I never did that

761
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 2: move again. I can't even remember that again. It was

762
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 2: one of one, one and one.

763
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 5: And the only reason why I did it is because

764
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 5: the Miami Heat were unbelievable defensive team and Keith Askins

765
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 5: was one of the better defenders in the NBA. And

766
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 5: I knew Keith Askers was going to go for if

767
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 5: you raise your eyebrows, he was gonna raise up. He

768
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 5: was like intense bro he was intense, so I knew

769
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 5: if I hit him with a half spin, he was

770
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 5: going to go for the spin. And I had already

771
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 5: kind of knew I was going to do the step back.

772
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 5: But that move was one of one never done every again.

773
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 2: In my career.

774
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 5: It was just instantual to lend him to get him

775
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 5: off me, to separate from it, and then shoot it.

776
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 2: So that was just instinct to play that goal.

777
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 6: To show you for your time job, you know what

778
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 6: I'm saying.

779
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 4: They kid kids are actually trying to add these moves

780
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 4: in their game now, like actually doing them in games

781
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 4: used before your time.

782
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 7: Bro thirty years said, that's crazy, though, I'm seeing that

783
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 7: one of one. Yeah game, get the spin, step back the.

784
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 6: Yeah man.

785
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:13,959
Speaker 3: Before we get out of here, we want to talk

786
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 3: a little bit about nineties kicks.

787
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 4: Uh.

788
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 3: Obviously your shoes were iconic, some of the shoes you

789
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 3: wore iconic. What was the basketball sneaker game like back

790
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 3: in the nineties, the.

791
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 5: Sneaker game was strong man, because you know, that's when

792
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 5: Nike was just pouring out everything. There wasn't a limit

793
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,479
Speaker 5: on any money, there wasn't any kind of pandemic, there

794
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 5: wasn't any kind of shortage. It was like shoes everywhere bro.

795
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 5: So for me, the sneaker game was at the high.

796
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 5: It's high now, but it's because of retro sneakers. But

797
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 5: my sneakers the Jay's, I mean even like spree Well

798
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 5: brought his shoes out with the Spinners, Shack had his shoe,

799
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 5: Patrick Young had his shoe, David Robinson had a shoe,

800
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 5: because Weber had a shoe. It was like everybody back

801
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 5: then had sneakers man, and it was crazy. Charles Barkley,

802
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 5: Scottie Pippen came along later. So I think that the

803
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 5: sneaker game was very strong back in the nineties.

804
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 3: What is it like when you see your shoes getting

805
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 3: re released nearly thirty years after you brought them to

806
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 3: the world and instill people go crazy over them.

807
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 5: It's kind of weird, man, to be honest with you,

808
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 5: but it's a blessing because we are all sneakerheads. I

809
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 5: know I'm a sneakerhead. You just wanted to wear sneakers

810
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 5: and then to have your own with your own logo

811
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 5: is a crazy moment.

812
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 6: Man.

813
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 5: I'm thankful for you know, the man up above to

814
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 5: be able to bless me with that and just to

815
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 5: see them being re released and then still selling out.

816
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 5: And I haven't played ball in a long time, and

817
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 5: to have that respect from the sneaking world is unbelievable.

818
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 4: What's the backstory behind the phone Positive? Were they originally

819
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 4: designed for somebody else?

820
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 6: You know?

821
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 5: They talked about that. They originally asked Scottie Pipping if

822
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,280
Speaker 5: he wanted the phone positive. I never heard this story

823
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 5: from the people that brought it to me, but I

824
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 5: do know that they had a phone positive one and

825
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 5: then they had the Phone Positive, the one with the

826
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 5: switch on the side that Tim Duncan was wearing for

827
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 5: a while. But the original phone to me was brought

828
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 5: to me to wearing the game. If it was Scottie's before,

829
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 5: I never heard of I never heard of that. But

830
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 5: they brought that idea to me, and I loved the

831
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 5: phone immediately because I knew it was something that was different.

832
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 5: I didn't know that it was gonna be relevant down

833
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 5: but I wanted it, man, because I knew it was

834
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 5: different from what anybody else had had.

835
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 3: The blue looked like the NERF remember the NERF turbo footballs.

836
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 3: That's yeahs yeah, I could ever afford them, but they

837
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 3: look good on y'all boys.

838
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 6: The Blue Ones was fire cold to this day. That's

839
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 6: saying it's his cold to this day.

840
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 3: Outside of your own line, give us your top five

841
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 3: hoop shoes from the nineties.

842
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 2: Oh wow.

843
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 5: I would say one of the lines definitely was you

844
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 5: know the Jay's the Jordan's for sure. What else was

845
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 5: was the top five? Because I'm in the Nike family.

846
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 5: I mean, I didn't really rock with anything outside of

847
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 5: the Nike family, so.

848
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 6: You good.

849
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 2: It was just basically just my my line, J MJ's line.

850
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 6: I would like it. I liked Barkley's.

851
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 5: The Barkley's line was good. The Force of course was good.

852
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 5: Uh gp when he brought out the glove, that glove

853
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 5: that that glove was tough. I kind of liked wearing

854
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 5: the gloves and I was more of a forced one guy.

855
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 5: So any of the dunks, the Force one and the Dunks, man,

856
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:44,439
Speaker 5: we're nice too.

857
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 6: And they still relevant.

858
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 2: Yeah.

859
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 4: The little penny advertising with Chris Rock, what's the story

860
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 4: behind that? And was what's your favorite there's two questions

861
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 4: and what's your favorite lipenny?

862
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 6: At?

863
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 5: So what happened with the Chris Rock situation? Chris Rock

864
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 5: was like one of the last comedians, not because he

865
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 5: wasn't worthy. It is because they went out to Damon Ways,

866
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 5: They went out to Martin Lawrence, you know, because these

867
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,919
Speaker 5: guys were heavy hitters at that time. Chris Rock wasn't

868
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 5: really Chris Rock at the time that the sneaker came out,

869
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 5: the Little Penny came out, so Chris Rock was like, yeah,

870
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 5: I'll do it. But it was more like they asked

871
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 5: Damon Wayms, they asked Martin Lawrence and those guys, and

872
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 5: they declined, like I don't know how big that would be.

873
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 5: And Chris Rock took on the role and we were

874
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 5: never there together. He did the voiceover, and obviously it

875
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 5: hit big. Chris Rock was definitely a funny comedian, but

876
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 5: when the Little Penny ads happened, you know, it definitely

877
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 5: made both of us more popular. My favorite Little Penny

878
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 5: ad it's probably probably when we were in the Memphis

879
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 5: Pros uniforms and we were doing the I Saved a

880
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 5: Little Penny from the burning building. We were in the

881
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 5: Memphis Ros uniforms. He was playing ball with me and

882
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 5: he was like, the Secret Service couldn't guard me. All

883
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 5: of that stuff that that that commercial was was pretty.

884
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 6: Dope, you know.

885
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 3: And obviously, with all due respect to the other comedians

886
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 3: that that passed on it, I don't think they could

887
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 3: have gave Little Penny the just he needed because it

888
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 3: was his voice that made him dope. Chris Chris Rock's

889
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 3: voice and what made Little Penny's voices what made Little

890
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 3: Penny so dope.

891
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 5: To me, absolutely, Chris Rock took that that Little Penny

892
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 5: to the highest level that it could have gone to,

893
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 5: because obviously we love Martin, we loved Damon Williams, but

894
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 5: his voice did make Little Penny because.

895
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 6: This boy shout out, Chris Rock, What were you that?

896
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 3: What would you think if someone brought one of these

897
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 3: young stars brought their version of Little Penny out, like

898
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 3: a John Moran.

899
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 6: Or something like that.

900
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 3: What would you think if, you know, they kind of

901
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 3: reinvamped Little Penny and made him like little Little Morent

902
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 3: or whatever they want to call.

903
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 6: What would you think of that?

904
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 5: I think that'd be tough, because you know, jah for me,

905
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 5: I was quiet, almost like a side on assassin, and

906
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 5: Little Penny was my mouth.

907
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 2: Here's the alter ego.

908
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 5: He was the guy that was gonna talk shit for me,

909
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 5: and all right, my man gonna get y'all, I'm gonna.

910
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 2: Do all the talking about my man, gonna get y'all right.

911
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 2: And but y'all giants, that guy is gonna talk shit.

912
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 5: So maybe a also ego might be the laid back,

913
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 5: the one that needs to go to the you know,

914
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 5: go to the the interviews and be like and answer

915
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 5: everything on the political side.

916
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 2: J'all gonna be like, now, I ain't say that shit.

917
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 2: He was the hole.

918
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 6: I got it. I gotta go.

919
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 5: I gotta Maybe that'll because y'all gonna tell you how

920
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 5: I feel, right, And maybe also he go do the

921
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 5: opposite of that and be like everything political dope.

922
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Nike's gonna hear this, so we'll see what happens,

923
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 3: no doubt. Well, Penny Man, we appreciate your time helping

924
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 3: us talk through the nineteen nineties. We wish you nothing

925
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 3: but the best of luck continuing over at Memphis and

926
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 3: look forward to catching up with you soon.

927
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 6: Man.

928
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 2: Thanks for you, you know, I appreciate it.

929
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 6: Man.

930
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 5: What I want to say to you and Stack Man,

931
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 5: I appreciate you guys for standing up for the culture.

932
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 5: Y'all do it big man. It takes big balls to

933
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 5: do that because you know, everybody else is gonna think

934
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 5: what they want to think and not say. But I

935
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 5: appreciate what y'all do for the coach bro seriously booking.

936
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 6: Thank you to appreciate it, absolutely

937
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 2: No doubt MHM