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Filthy Tom Lawler is going to 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:54.320 be joining me, and we got a lot to get into. 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:56.400 I don't know if he watched that next to you 0:01:56.440 --> 0:01:58.200 last night. I don't even know if we're going to 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:00.600 get into that next day. You probably not. I believe 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:02.840 that he did. He's given me the thumbs up right now, 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:05.480 and we're gonna get his thoughts on that. But I 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:09.480 want to get his thoughts on Amazon taking Monday Night Raw. 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:13.040 I know he was a proponent of Amazon getting it, 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:16.320 I'm sorry, but Netflix. What he thinks about Netflix getting it? 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:19.080 He was a proponent of Amazon getting it the last 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:21.320 time we talked on the show. We'll get his thoughts 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:24.200 on that. 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But when it comes to the wrestling news, 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:20.880 it's between five and fifteen minutes long, every single day. 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:24.360 No clickbait, no speculation, no rumors, no paywall, just the 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:27.480 Wrestling News. Find it wherever you find your favorite podcast, 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:29.800 or head on over to the Wrestling News dot com 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:36.360 or wrestling at Wrestling newsab on Facebook and Twitter. Filthy 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:38.360 Tom Lawler, how are you, sir? 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:45.360 I am doing good. What a overload of information there, Mike, 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:49.520 much like there is NonStop in the world of professional wrestling. 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:57.080 You mentioned Dynamite tonight. You mentioned NXT last night, which 0:07:57.120 --> 0:08:01.320 I did watch the Hulu version. I snuck it in there. 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:02.840 Uh. 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:09.920 The final match of Kazuchka Okada and Corrican Hall a 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:15.440 very emotional time in front of the fans and backstage 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:19.360 for the New Japan wrestlers. 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:23.840 The It was emotional for me hoping that he would 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:26.400 put Fajeta over on the way out. I'll say that 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:27.600 I knew he wouldn't, but. 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:33.679 Come on, I cannot believe. I cannot believe anyone thought 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:38.400 still that Okada was going to lose to Mikey Nichols, 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:44.840 Shane Haste or Fujiita. Hey, listen, Fujina. Fujina is zero 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:48.880 and two against me. Do you think he's beating Okata. 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:54.120 Look to me, it's the explanation, exclamation point on the 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:57.600 bad year that they had booking Kazuo Okada and how 0:08:57.600 --> 0:09:00.800 he did not put anyone over, whether their name was 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:03.520 Kato Kiemia or whether it was Shooter, or whether it 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:07.000 was Suji or anybody not even in a tag team encounter. 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:10.440 So I knew he wasn't going to put Fajita over, 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:14.680 but it was, you know, the hope and maybe the slight, 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:18.319 you know, possibility that he slips on a banana peel. 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:20.720 But I guess his l is going to have to 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:24.520 come at the hands of Hiroshi Tanahashi, or does it? 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:27.560 Does he lose to ton of Hashi, Does he lose 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:31.480 to Ace President before he departs for North America? 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:36.840 I think he wins? 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:42.360 Really really? Is that not then really getting into some 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:45.320 sort of malpractice if you're the new president of New 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:49.199 Japan and the company itself and Gato the booker who 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:53.040 has got enough going against him, frankly in my opinion, but. 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:56.240 I believe that's not his final match. 0:09:57.120 --> 0:10:03.280 It's still does he lose to Tanahashi? He doesn't lose 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:06.319 to Tanahashi, I. 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:10.240 Don't think so, Oh my god. But I'm quite often wrong. 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:13.280 Well, he is going to show up, but they have 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:16.160 the ceremony dates or they have something going on at 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:19.000 the end of February, right the twenty second, the twenty fourth. 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:22.560 I think he said he's he's going to be making shows. 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:25.520 I believe those days, am I? Am I crazy about that? 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:25.920 Did I? 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:30.520 I believe that's true. There's also been announced a new 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:36.120 girlas of Destiny versus Old Gorillas of Destiny matchup with 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:40.480 LP and Hiccoleo taking on Toma Tonga and Tonga Loa. 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:43.480 It's another interesting match. 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:43.839 There. 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:46.360 Are we going to see Tamatonga as a good brother? 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:53.040 I mean, you know, that's probably the best slot for him, 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:57.040 I would imagine, both for him and for all the 0:10:57.080 --> 0:11:00.160 people involved, you know what I mean. He's still got 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:01.079 plenty left in the. 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:04.920 Tank, absolutely, and it's brand new for people here. I 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:06.880 mean he really is when he gets right down to it, 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:09.240 especially to that fan base. He's brand new. 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:14.320 Yeah. And there was no one that had aj Styles 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:17.440 back despite what the club said, unless we find out 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:19.480 that they were beat up and left laying by the 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:23.800 blood line once again. Backstage, nobody came to aj Styles 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:29.240 aid on SmackDown as two plus million people worldwide. 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:33.640 So he's the Ridge Holland of SmackDown. He's got to 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:38.400 do it all himself. You saw NXT last night, you 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:41.880 know that reference Ridge Holland all alone facing Gallus by himself. 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:45.559 You know what didn't make Earth? What did not make 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:46.439 the Hulu version? 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:47.120 What's that. 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:50.000 Ridge Holland and Gallas. 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:54.600 Well, there was no match or anything like that, but 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:58.320 there was a a promo that he cut backstage with 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:01.760 Kelly Kincaid where he talked about facing Gallas. He had 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:04.040 his cup of coffee in his hand and he talked 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:07.320 about facing Gallas all on his own, and he walks 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:11.160 off and then she sat there shocked. So maybe that 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:13.559 Ridge can hook up with AJ at some point. And 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:15.640 you know, it would be better for AJ if they 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:18.560 were partners, because then the risk of him getting hurt 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:25.560 would go down. But up, Thank you, thank you, filthy, 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:30.360 You're very welcome. All right. Dark Side of the Ring 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:34.920 officially making its return to Vice TV in March. This 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:37.880 story up on the main page of the website. Was 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:40.760 announced today that season five of Dark Side of the 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:44.360 Ring will premiere on Tuesday, March fifth, ten pm Eastern Time. 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:47.480 Ten episodes in the season, The topics that will be 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:55.120 covered Gentleman Chris Adams, sensational Sherry Martell, Bam Bam, Terry Gordy, 0:12:56.240 --> 0:13:00.439 Black Saturday, Vince McMahon's purchase of Georgia Cha being Chip 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:04.520 Wrestling in nineteen eighty four leading to WWF getting the 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:08.960 six ZHO five Saturday night time slot. Chris Colt, which 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:16.800 is something, the Sandman, Earthquake, Harley Race, Buff Bagwell and Brutus, Beefcake, 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:20.920 Filthy and maybe time that we get the third member 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:25.360 of Team Filthy, Greg the Hammer Valentine on to talk 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:27.920 a little bit about Beefcake and he can talk a 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:30.880 little bit about Beefcake's wife, which I've heard they don't 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:33.120 like each other very much, but that bay be a 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:35.880 story for a different time. What do you think about 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:38.680 this line up here? And there are some names that 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:41.480 are from my generation growing up, like Chris Adams and 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:44.679 Black Saturday and you know some things like that, you 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:47.559 know you're a little younger, Do those names stick out 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:51.440 to you? Do those stories about have they traveled through time? 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:53.360 About how crazy Chris Adams was? 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:58.640 Brother? What you read that list off? All I could 0:13:58.640 --> 0:14:01.960 think to myself was we or scrape in the bottom 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:06.400 of the barrel. Here is what we have left for 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:10.679 Dark Side of the Ring. I want to hear some scandals. 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:18.120 I want to hear about some nefarious doings by unscrupulous characters. 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:20.240 I think you're gonna hear that. 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:23.440 I don't think this is at the level of anything 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:25.840 that we've seen in the past seasons. 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:31.520 The Erics, well, yeah, yeah, the Von Erics. I mean 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:33.880 we've had some We've had some heavy stuff. We've had 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:37.400 New Jack, We've had you know, the the bizarreity that 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:41.520 was the life of of Eddie Graham and Matt Bourne. 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:46.440 We had from h Double hockey Sticks. 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:50.240 We had Marty Jannetti, we had you know, we had 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:53.720 we had that one. Look, Chris Adams is a story 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:59.000 that I think, you know, coming off the Von Erics movie. 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:01.360 Now maybe the time I'm to actually lead off with 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:04.360 that one, because he was a world class story and 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:06.920 yes he was in many other territories, but he has 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:12.160 got some of the nastiest stuff, including a prison stint 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:15.880 he had to do for headbutting a co pilot I 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:18.360 believe it was of a plane that ended up getting 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:23.040 him arrested, and a notorious drinker and drugger Chris Adams was, 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:24.960 so I have a feeling that that is going to 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:28.240 be quite the interesting story when it comes to him. 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:32.000 Terry Gordy Again, that's an interesting story I think as 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:34.800 well too. That again, when you look at the name 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:37.760 dark Side of the Ring, there was a dark side 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:38.760 over Terry Gordy. 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:44.520 Where's a story about Ricky Dozan? Well, you know, there's 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:48.320 plenty of things that they could talk about, and instead, 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:52.000 just like just like us, there's scrape at the bottom 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:52.640 of the barrel. 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:56.000 They are, they are, and you are the Chris Cult 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:59.200 of the show. Dothy Don Waller. We'll be back. Rustum's 0:15:59.240 --> 0:15:59.640 over live. 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:23.680 You are listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:29.480 and Mike Semperviv on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network. 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:32.280 Throwing things around over here, Mike semper Viv Filthy Tom 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:35.280 Lawler here with your Wrestling Observer Live. I just look 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:38.200 down at the chat here, the Twitch chat, people talking 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:42.520 about what would be better stories, what are going to 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:45.840 be good stories? DJ Cowboy Chris Adams has a darker 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:48.840 story than you might suspect. Yes, he does. Everybody. That 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:51.480 is going to be a very very dark story. That 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:56.520 is for absolutely sure. You know, Ashley Massaro, you know, 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:59.320 that is probably one that I don't know, you know, 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:03.760 it's if people are willing to talk about that one. 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:06.720 You know, that's one that obviously, with the name Dark 0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:09.640 Side of the Ring did not end very well. Art 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:13.000 Bar would be very interesting as well too. You know, 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:15.840 Art Barr is one of those guys that I'm always surprised, 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:18.160 and I get it because he was such a star 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:21.960 in Mexico and he was Eddie Guerrero's friend. But I'm 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:26.480 surprised he his past and some of his past transgressions 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:29.800 get you know, kind of dusted under and we celebrate 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:32.359 Art Bar a lot more. Hey, look, Dom's wearing his 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:35.080 shirt and all that sort of stuff. I don't know, 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:37.320 I was always kind of shaky with him, but he 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:39.639 probably would make a pretty good one too. Tom. I 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:42.520 don't know, you know, for you what are some ones 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:44.600 that really stick out and you go, you know, they 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:48.879 probably should do this as opposed to Harley Race or 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:50.880 Buff Bagwell or Brutus Beefcake. 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:54.200 You know, we were talking during the break, as we 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:58.760 sometimes do, and I know that they did a history 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:02.200 of FMW, but you know, kind of in the same 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:05.280 vein as one along the lines of Ricky Doz and 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:09.640 I think you could have one about Hayabusa. You could 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:13.399 have one about and this also stems from FMW in 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:17.680 a way. You could have Shinya Hashimoto stealing for Yuki's 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:23.480 wife after his funeral. There's a number of things the 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:29.760 Noah Exodus, of course, which had major ramifications business wise 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:31.919 and personal wise for a lot of wrestlers. 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:37.600 R F running away from Perverted Justice, still running shows 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:41.879 here he is people still uh doing signings for him 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:46.000 and whatnot. Oh, it's just you know, not to say anything, 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:48.679 just pointing that out, but uh, you know, plenty of 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:50.800 things could end up on Dark Side of the Ring. 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:52.720 We should problem. 0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:55.960 You and I could end up on there one day, Mike, 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:58.040 if we play our cards correctly. 0:18:58.280 --> 0:19:00.400 And we get Brian thrown under the bus, I guess 0:19:00.440 --> 0:19:02.800 we possibly could be on there. They could come to 0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:04.760 us and talk about that. Look, you have the right 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:09.959 idea of why have they not done dark Side of MMA? 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:13.679 They did a deal about the UFC, did they not 0:19:13.880 --> 0:19:16.520 about in the nineties? Dark Side Vice of the nineties? 0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:19.280 Dark Side of the nineties? They did something? I mean, 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:22.760 if you think about it, I mean, MMA, there are 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:26.840 so many stories Tom that we just we know because 0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:29.560 we've been around for so long, in fans for so 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:32.320 long and around it. You know, that took place in 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:35.320 the nineties that people today have no idea about. And 0:19:35.359 --> 0:19:38.119 there are just so many stories from the nineties and 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:41.919 before that nobody really knows about. I mean, it sounds 0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:46.160 terrible to say, but much like boxing, I mean, MMA 0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:48.960 is a pretty ripe world to have a dark side 0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:50.119 series about it. 0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:57.160 Yeah, I mean, any sport in which one competitor, Gary Goodrich, 0:19:57.840 --> 0:20:02.439 perhaps as one of by twisting another man's genitals with 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:06.320 his foot back in the nineties, I think any sport 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:10.240 that contains a finish like that deserves to have a 0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:13.080 dark side series about it. 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:15.600 And we said it felt like crunchy peanut butter, do 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:18.200 you remember that? That's what he said. That's what Gary 0:20:18.240 --> 0:20:23.160 Goodrich said. And the thing is, and this is gonna 0:20:23.160 --> 0:20:26.280 sound terrible, I don't know if Gary Goodwich would remember 0:20:26.359 --> 0:20:29.439 saying that, and because he's had so much damage. And 0:20:29.480 --> 0:20:32.439 that's another thing about that series that you could do 0:20:32.560 --> 0:20:35.760 with so many of those guys from that Pride era, 0:20:35.880 --> 0:20:40.480 which in some ways was spectacular, but my god, the 0:20:40.520 --> 0:20:43.040 amount of punishment these men took and how they went 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:46.640 into fights, yeah, when they absolutely should not have. 0:20:47.160 --> 0:20:50.440 And we talked about just names during the break as well, 0:20:50.480 --> 0:20:58.280 like Mark Coleman, Mark Kerr, Phil Baroni, Unfortunately Randman, Kevin Randleman, 0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:02.960 Stephan Bonner. There's a number of guys and there's a 0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:07.200 number of incidents as well. Lee Murray, the most notorious 0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:10.760 perhaps criminal in the history of the world, was a 0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:17.200 UFC fighter. There's a number of incidents, a number of characters. 0:21:17.400 --> 0:21:20.920 Well, the Hickson Gracie Yogi Ajo's story is not you know, 0:21:21.240 --> 0:21:24.920 is only really known for if you've really been following MMA. 0:21:25.040 --> 0:21:26.720 I mean a lot of people may not know that 0:21:26.880 --> 0:21:30.800 story anymore. And really, I mean Hickson Gracie alone as 0:21:30.840 --> 0:21:33.800 a as a figure for a story could be very interesting. 0:21:34.359 --> 0:21:36.080 Yeah, for those of you that don't know what Mike's 0:21:36.119 --> 0:21:40.320 talking about, yog and Joe, who was a UWF wrestler, 0:21:40.880 --> 0:21:44.880 flew over to the US to do a dojo challenge. 0:21:44.920 --> 0:21:49.399 He went to Hickson's dojo and wanted to fight him, 0:21:50.160 --> 0:21:54.959 and they fought behind closed doors and the only photographs 0:21:55.680 --> 0:21:59.720 after the event are of yog and Joe just absolutely 0:22:00.520 --> 0:22:05.200 destroyed beating up looks like a member of the Goonies 0:22:05.960 --> 0:22:07.760 instead of his normal self. 0:22:08.160 --> 0:22:13.680 Baby Ruth. Oh, it's terrible, absolutely terrible. Mister two hundred 0:22:13.880 --> 0:22:17.520 Yogian Joe was never the same again after that, that 0:22:17.640 --> 0:22:20.280 is for sure. I mean, hey, look, Akure ma Ada, 0:22:20.400 --> 0:22:22.840 could you do one show on him? I mean one 0:22:22.880 --> 0:22:25.159 show was enough for the American fan base. I mean 0:22:25.200 --> 0:22:27.760 you gotta ease him in slowly. But I mean, if 0:22:27.760 --> 0:22:30.359 this was a Japanese series, you might be able to 0:22:30.400 --> 0:22:32.159 do six parks on Maida, couldn't you. 0:22:32.720 --> 0:22:34.720 CML versus Deep. 0:22:35.560 --> 0:22:41.159 Well, yeah, Alberto del Rio Das Carras Junior fighting with 0:22:41.240 --> 0:22:44.320 a mask on in Pride against Marco crow Cop. You 0:22:44.359 --> 0:22:47.119 know that's something that again, you know, unless you were 0:22:47.160 --> 0:22:49.760 around in the what was it the two thousand and five, 0:22:49.840 --> 0:22:52.359 two thousand and six, I guess that fight took place. 0:22:52.400 --> 0:22:55.040 I can't even remember anymore, but that seems like it's 0:22:55.040 --> 0:22:55.960 lost in time now. 0:22:56.720 --> 0:23:01.080 Yeah, one of the early Pride bushetos if I remember correctly. 0:23:01.160 --> 0:23:02.880 Hey, super Porky at in Mma fight? 0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:08.840 Sure did El Solar fought Suzuki? Yeah, there were a 0:23:08.920 --> 0:23:12.520 number of Lutradors and we didn't even touch upon the 0:23:12.560 --> 0:23:14.960 Mexican scene. When we were talking about what could be 0:23:14.960 --> 0:23:17.320 on Dark Side of the Ring. So yeah, yeah, I 0:23:17.359 --> 0:23:19.919 don't think that the series it self needs to be 0:23:19.920 --> 0:23:22.000 put to rest, but I think they could have done 0:23:22.040 --> 0:23:24.640 a better job this season or choosing subjects. 0:23:25.440 --> 0:23:27.440 Be interesting to see how all of it plays out, 0:23:27.520 --> 0:23:31.000 and that is going to begin on March fifth, Tuesday, 0:23:31.080 --> 0:23:34.320 March fifth for people who have Vice TV. Unfortunately with 0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:36.960 YouTube TV, of all of the channels that they have, 0:23:37.400 --> 0:23:39.240 Vice is not one of them, So I'll have to 0:23:39.520 --> 0:23:41.560 figure out another way to see those shows. 0:23:42.119 --> 0:23:44.359 Where does Dark Side eventually end up, Mike? Does it 0:23:44.440 --> 0:23:48.040 end up on Peacock? Does it end up on Hulu? 0:23:48.680 --> 0:23:54.240 Does it end up on maybe Netflix? Perhaps maybe somebody 0:23:54.280 --> 0:23:56.640 with all those subscriptions out there can let me know. 0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:00.080 Yeah, you find out where that does end up. I 0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:04.080