WEBVTT - Draft Show: More Scenarios At 4; QB At 1? 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:13.640 This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft show. Cowboys 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:17.880 on your war Room for insider news and draft analysis 0:00:17.920 --> 0:00:21.439 from deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at Valley Rant. 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:25.320 The Dallas Cowboys Selection by Rand Joe and now your 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:30.880 hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us. Well, 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:35.440 it's thirteen days until the NFL Draft takes place. Wow, 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:40.320 it's amazing that we started this journey. Yeah, what was 0:00:40.320 --> 0:00:42.839 the count on day one? The first show? Yeah, like 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:46.000 the matthis one too much for my LSU brain one 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:49.000 twenty or something like that. It was. But we've we've 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:51.800 got to this point where we're two weeks away. Brian 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:54.360 brought us along with Dane Brugler from CBS Sports and 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:58.480 Dallas Cowboys dot Com, David Hellman from Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:02.480 Kit Garrison Executive produce Today, gentlemen, As you know, I'm 0:01:02.480 --> 0:01:05.200 always just going to dive right into things. We got 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:06.840 some things to talk We got about some things to 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:13.280 talk about. First off, we surprised at the way that 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:17.920 the La Rams were able to manipulate to get to 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:21.560 the first overall pick in this draft. We knew if 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:23.880 they were going to go up there, obviously, from fifteen 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:26.960 to one, which we've never seen before. We've never seen 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:29.760 a team go from fifteen up to one. So we 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:31.440 knew if it was going to happen, it's gonna have 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:34.280 to take a lot, and they sure gave up a lot. Yeah, 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:37.360 and what Dane's talking about a lot? They did give up. 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:41.920 They gave up pick overall pick first, their first round 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:45.800 pick number fifteen, number, their second round pick forty three, 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:50.120 second round pick forty five, and third round pick seventy six, 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:53.920 and then next year's one and three for that right 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:58.440 to draft the first overall spot. Tennessee flips the one 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:01.960 overall as we've talked about four, the fourth round pick, 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:05.440 which is one thirteen, and pick in the sixth round, 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:09.480 pick one seventy seven. We all sound very calm and 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:14.679 collected right now because we've had we've had twenty eight 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:18.560 hours to digest this. Uh I yeah, hell yeah, I 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:21.800 was surprised. I was freaking out yesterday. That's how I 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:24.840 woke up. I said, my alarms like seven forty five, 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:26.640 eight o'clock in the morning. I reach over to my 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:29.680 phone and you know, turn the alarm off, and like 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:32.320 that just starts coming across the screen all at once. 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:35.239 You know, I follow every NFL writer there is on Twitter, 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:38.560 so I'm just running. It was like a fire drill. 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:39.720 I was like, what do I do with my hands? 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:42.640 What's going this is? Dane said it, We've never seen 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:45.600 this before? Yeah, well I never. I I mean we've 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:47.880 been talking about the Rams trading up to four. I 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:51.760 was trying to get just two first two second round picks. 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:54.480 First of all, the price was way off. I mean, 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:56.000 I know it's they went they went to one and 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:58.320 not four, but still they gave up so much more. 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:02.120 And on top of that, I just I even thought 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:03.920 fifteen to four was too big of a jump. I mean, 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:05.799 what do you usually see. You know that the Bills 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:09.959 went to four from like nine for Sammy Watkins. That's 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:12.320 the type of stuff you usually see, you know, where 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:16.440 fortune favors the bold, David maybe, yeah, or the desperate 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:19.120 or the desperate and well, there's some people that might 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:21.280 not agree with you on that though. I do agree 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:23.440 with you though, But there's some people will say, well, 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:26.360 maybe the spice fisher in and let's need three more years. 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:28.440 Well that's what we're talking about desperate, because they are 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:31.160 desperate for a quarterback and this is their lifeline. You know, 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:34.000 they don't really care about twenty seventeen draft right now. 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:36.480 They care about the here and now. Yeah, and you 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:39.360 know this gives them a future. Now, what is that future? 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:41.440 Is that Carson Wentz or is that Jared Goff. I 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:43.240 don't think we have an answer yet. Yeah, I don't 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:45.320 think we're gonna hear some people out there. And this 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:48.280 is my theory on this situation. The Rams know who 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:50.360 they're taking at one. Yeah. I don't believe for a 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:53.160 second that they're debating over these last two weeks. They 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:56.080 know exactly who they're taking, but they're leaking it out there. 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:58.480 Some people they're telling they want Jared Goff, some people 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:01.280 they're telling they want Carson. They want there to be 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:05.440 a split opinion because they want Cleveland at two who 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:08.120 they think loves one of these quarterbacks. They don't know 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:10.560 which one. They want Cleveland to try and entice them 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:13.240 to trade up one spot to ensure that quarterback. The 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:15.720 Rams can go back and gained some more draft picks 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:18.600 back and still get their quarterback at two. Now, I 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:20.440 don't think it's going to work. How about that thirty 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:24.320 day gamesmanship? Yeah, I don't buy it with two weeks left. 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:27.919 I mean, I don't know the Rams knew who they're taking. 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:29.840 I don't believe for a second that they don't. So 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:35.120 but I similar to with Dave, I did a seven 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:39.000 round mock I, you know, turned it in, finally got 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:41.960 it loaded up Wednesday night, posted it. I was so 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:43.880 proud of it and never done a seven round mok before. 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:46.120 You just set it on fire on Thursday morning. A 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:48.159 couple hours later, I'm giving my dog a walk in 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:50.200 the morning, I'm getting all these texts. I'm like, oh, 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:51.720 people are messing with me. You know, I did the 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:54.080 seventh round mok. Now they're telling me this huge trade happen. 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:58.360 Yeah right, yeah, that's true, just unbelievable. Tell me why. 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:00.120 I'm sorry. If you look at the if you look 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:01.880 at the numbers, and if you just want to do 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:04.320 the what you think Jeff Fisher and the Rams will do. 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:06.720 He's a seven and nine coach. We kind of understand that, 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:09.720 so he'll probably be the Rams will probably be picking again, 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:14.200 probably fifteen, you know again, And if you look at 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:17.560 what that one and that three might mean, well, the Rams, 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:20.360 if if they pick in the same spot where they 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:23.560 did this year, that one in that three. They're gonna 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:26.640 overpay on this trade by a second round pick. They 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:29.120 absolutely are. But and I think Peter King made this 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:32.240 point yesterday. I think right now, obviously we don't know 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:33.960 if the quarterback is going to work out, but right 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:36.040 now I think it's a trade that makes sense for 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:39.320 both teams. The Rams have a pretty that's a deep roster. 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:41.360 They got the rookie of the year at running back, 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:45.120 kind of thin. At receiver, you got Greg Robinson still 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:48.039 coming into his own attackle. The defense is stacked. I mean, 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:50.240 they had so many guys in their secondary that they 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:54.000 couldn't pay them all. Defensive line solid, you got Brockers, 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:57.200 you got Donald. Honestly, this team is I think it's 0:05:57.240 --> 0:05:59.400 reasonable to say that they're a good quarterback away from 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:02.360 being a play off slash Super Bowl contender. And then 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:05.560 over on the other side, the Titans have quarterback figured out, 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:08.520 and I guess running back Marco Murray's there and nothing 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:10.919 else right, so they want a whole bunch of draft picks. 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:13.680 Let's remember that last year general manager there too. By 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:17.160 the way, last year we had two excellent rookie quarterbacks. 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:19.840 Usually rookie quarterbacks struggle, and we saw James Winston Marcus 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:22.000 Marriot struggle but they had really good See year before, 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:24.080 a couple of quarterbacks played real well too if you 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:29.320 talk about Bridgewater, right and car But both those teams, 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:32.000 the Bucks and Titans, are both picking top ten this year. Yeah, 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:34.599 so you know it's for the Rams. This isn't like 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:37.360 an automatic Okay, you know now we can talk playoffs, right, 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:39.120 you know, this is something I was just thinking what 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:42.279 Jeff Fisher normally is. Yeah, no, and you're you're not wrong. Yeah, 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:44.720 that's what history tells us. Yeah. Let me ask you 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:47.479 this though, and going back to the smoke screens and 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:51.520 the gamesmanship. If you are in the market for a 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:53.920 quarterback and you're picking in a spot where you can 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:55.880 get one of them, and I mean, I know you 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:58.599 like Paxson Lynch, but I'm talking about Winston. Golf, go ahead, Yeah, 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:02.000 that's fine, you got one valued over the other. I mean, 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:05.000 let's say that let's say Cleveland really does they love Winz, 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:08.160 even if it's not true for the purposes of this, 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:12.320 they do, and Wentz goes one. I still think that 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:15.000 they would probably take golf too, though. I mean, there's 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:17.920 easy a trade you think so. I think I think 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:20.640 quarterbacks go one too. I think the bigger question is 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:22.720 is Cleveland number two? I guess in quarterback. I guess 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:25.560 that's more. I agree with what he says. I think 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:28.360 it fits. My point is that I still I don't 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:30.040 think there's that big of a difference between these two 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:31.760 guys that you're going to see one fall that far 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:33.520 down the board, is what I'm trying to say. I 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:36.280 think there's a clear difference between golf and wins. How 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:39.920 I do, no, I well, I agree, just one's a 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:42.920 couple of years older one. You know, one's more physically gifted. 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:45.200 I do. Yeah, there are differences, and I do I 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:47.880 would not be shocked at all if say Cleveland prefers 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:52.000 one over the other strongly. Yeah, But I do think 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:55.320 quarterbacks are going one too. It just the number two 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:57.520 pick could be the Eagles making it. The thing that 0:07:57.560 --> 0:08:00.200 could happen here, though, is the fact that if if, 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:05.600 in fact, though the Rams do take Cleveland's quarterback, then 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:08.720 then they'll just bail to bail that pick, that second 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:13.440 pick might be not as expensive. That goes against what 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:15.480 I think, And I mean, Dane's plugged into the Browns, 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:18.560 so he would know, but I think I don't think that, 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:21.720 and I'll just maybe I don't know if Danes is 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:24.400 that big. Between these two quarterbacks love one and hate 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:27.400 the other, it is to me one, I think that 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:30.560 Golf was a top ten quarterback. I don't think Carson 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:33.559 Wentz is. That's me. I always thought that Wentz was 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:35.480 more of a guy from twenty to twenty eight. I 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:38.920 think the Browns are hoping that Wentz goes one and 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:41.559 then they take off at two. But if it goes 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:44.000 the other, if Golf goes one, I think they have 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:47.520 a good feel that Philadelphia at eight could really like 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:50.760 Wentz and can make a move. And you know, the 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:54.480 Eagles don't have a second rounder. So what would it 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:56.959 take to go from eight up to number two? Is 0:08:56.960 --> 0:08:59.560 it a future one? Yea? Is it? You know? A 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:02.240 three to four? Would that be enough? Or it's Cleveland 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:04.200 that desperate to get out of two? Right? It's going 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:06.160 to be interesting. I think going to eight is not 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:08.720 a bad option for Cleveland if they're if they because 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:12.160 I've heard from Cleveland people that that they like wins, 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:14.880 but maybe not enough to take it too. I think, 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:16.679 I mean, if you're going from too I don't even Yeah, 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:18.000 I don't even care if they don't have a second 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:20.320 round pick. If I mean you're dropping six spots, a 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:22.600 guy that you love will be there, and yeah, you 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:25.080 pick up a first rounder. Yeahs draft. The thing with 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:27.120 the Browns is we don't know for sure yet with 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:30.040 the metrics in analytics, how that's going to play into 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:33.600 their draft strategy. But what I can promise you is 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:36.360 they want to figure out a way to accumulate picks. 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:38.840 They were, they were they wanted the Tennessee deal. They 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:40.880 I mean, they wanted to do They wanted the deal 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:43.560 that the Rams absolutely wouldn't want that deal. That was 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:47.440 the deal. Good point. Yeah, but they But see the 0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:51.040 fact that Cleveland needs a quarterback, or we think Cleveland 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:54.000 needs a quarterback, Well, what the chances of Cleveland takes 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:58.000 tounsil I honestly, I mean, is that a possibility? I 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:02.360 think I think they got duck if they get stuck. Yeah, 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:04.719 I don't think it's a guarantee Cleveland's going to pick 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:08.040 a quarterback. Yeah, well they all kind of think that. 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:10.800 But if we if we like these quarterbacks at the 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:13.280 top of the second round, if they have a guy 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:15.520 in mind, if they like if we're going in terms 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:17.200 of odds of what's going to happen at number two, 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:20.319 I think the best odds that they're gonna take a quarterback, 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:23.200 the next best odds they're gonna trade back, and the 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:25.280 third best odds they're gonna Sakay. Let me segue to 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:29.400 that if you're Dallas, Yeah, and the debt Yeah. And 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:31.439 let me say, Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:34.400 two to play general manager. Guy Sure and Dana and 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:36.200 I did this last night for a Guy's at one 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:38.080 oh five three. We had a nice group out there 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:41.760 for the local radio station and had a little scouting 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:45.640 one oh one, nice turn out, great questions. Ask this question, 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:48.959 would you be willing to give your two and your 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:51.360 three to go up and draft golf at two if 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:55.520 that's if that's your quarterback? No? Or next year's one. No. 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:59.480 The next year's one is fascinating because that's if you're 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:02.520 going up to get golf. You know, you're even if 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:05.320 Ruman doesn't stay healthy, you have golf waiting to you know, 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:07.480 kind of go in there and help you. You're you're 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:09.840 planning on picking in at twenties next year. Yeah, So 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:13.800 if say you're picking just say for the thirties, hypothetically 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:16.640 twenty five. Yeah, you're picking next year. Is that pick 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:20.280 worth guaranteeing you the quarterback of your future? He makes 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:24.760 a great point. Sure, I've stated my beliefs on that 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:28.120 I have. I'm fine if if Jared Goff were to 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:30.240 fall to four, which I don't think he will, especially 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:32.120 now that the Rams are picking number one, I think 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:34.040 he'll be the number one pick if he were to 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:36.719 fall to four. I've looked at this draft enough to 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:39.640 you know what, that's fine if if if he's there, 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:42.400 that's great. I'm not mortgaging the future to take a 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:44.760 quarterback that I'm not in love with. Well, and that's 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:49.200 and then let's play. Let's okay, Well me to play general, 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:52.800 I understand that that's on me. Well what about the Cowboys? 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:55.080 What if golf is there? What if golf is their 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:57.920 their best quarterback? They're going to work him out this weekend, right, 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:00.600 That's that's another thing. Yeah, the Cowboys, you know, they're 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:02.719 they're getting on Jerry's G five and they're all going 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:03.959 out there and they're gonna have a lot of fun 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:06.760 at Berkeley throwing the ball around under two weeks away 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:09.720 and you know you're making that trip. That's tells you something. 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:12.080 That told me something too, that that they worked out 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:15.000 Paxton Lynch too, that Jerry. So this is gonna be 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:16.840 pretty consistent that they're going to look at all these 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:20.400 top quarterbacks that way. I hate giving up draft picks, man, 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:23.880 so so do I and it and the guy that 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:26.679 hates the most is sitting right right to your right 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:28.959 right there now. I do not, especially at a future 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:30.720 number one scares the hell out of man. I mean, 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:32.319 I don't want to give up that pick. And what 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:34.160 do you feel that strong? Do you think the Cowboys 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:37.120 could feel that strongly about Golf to do this? I think, 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:40.560 and I know they brought him in. I know, well, 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:44.320 I feel like I feel like I wouldn't feel terrible 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:46.040 about it. How do you think they feel? I feel 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:47.920 like I would have a better sense that they loved 0:12:47.960 --> 0:12:50.040 him if they really loved him that much. But I mean, 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:51.920 they're going to work him out this weekend. So this 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:55.120 is where this is where like personnel guys are different 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:57.920 from us guys in the media. They don't care what 0:12:58.000 --> 0:12:59.920 we think a well it would be, they're not afraid. 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:03.400 Yeah there, I mean because it is your job. You know, 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:06.200 somebody can lose their job over this stuff. But the 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:08.360 general manager here is not going to lose his job. 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:11.160 But you know that. But but that's the that's the thing, 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:13.480 that's why you would make a move like that. I 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:15.640 will say this, I'm a job if you trade up 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:17.880 to get him. And he's playing Gabbert too. But but 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:20.000 this is the this is the thing about it is though, 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:22.120 but he this general manager, not gonna lose his job. No, 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:24.280 he's not gonna lose. But that's why. That's why to me. 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:26.200 But I've been in this room with this general manager 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:28.959 before when we didn't have a first round pick, and 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:33.120 he's dying. Trust me, I've seen it. He is. The 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:34.600 rest of us are in that room and we're all 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:37.240 just kind of working the draft and pulling tags and 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:39.960 acting like we're busy, and as it comes close to 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:42.760 our pick, we're all looking at the board going who 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:46.040 would we have taken? Who would we have taken it? 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:50.120 And it is and so that's maybe why next year 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:52.640 he would. But but then again, the fact that he 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:55.480 is the general manager and the owner, he can make 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:57.319 that move and we're not talking about going up to 0:13:57.320 --> 0:14:00.360 get Joey Bosa. We're talking about a quarterback. Get a 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:04.760 quarterback next ten exactly if you felt that well way 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:07.760 about golf, you you'd make that move. And every time 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:10.760 that sting you feel that sting about not having that 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:13.440 future one, you just look on your roster and see 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:15.720 Jared Goff there, and that would take a little bit 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:18.840 of his tag off your personnel board in your spot. 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:21.440 Put it right there. You make, You make a compelling argument. 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:24.440 You do, and I know we would all throw up. 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:26.880 I mean, I mean everybody out there would throw up 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:28.960 because they don't want to give up picks. They don't. 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:32.400 We did the study last night in detail. Is it 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:34.200 just the one I'm getting rid of to get him? 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:37.280 What else? No? You that's it just the wor or 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:41.280 a second or third this year and seven the seven 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:43.760 round er I did. I had the Cowboy's first three 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:49.120 picks Jalen Ramsey, Carl Joseph Tyler, boyd so corner, safety, 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:52.320 wide receiver. Who would you rather have those three players 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:57.200 or Jared Goff the quarterback of your future? You make 0:14:57.240 --> 0:15:00.440 a compelling argument, and then and you know, hope, hopefully 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:03.920 your pick next year is somewhere between twenty five and 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:06.840 thirty two. Yeah, hopefully right. We made a trade with 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:09.720 the Buffalo Bills, thinking that when we went away in 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:12.720 that draft from Stephen Jackson and those guys, and then 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:15.520 and Maurice Carthon said, well, those running backs in the 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:18.600 second round are just the same, and Parcels and Jones 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:21.280 listen to Maurice say that, and then all of a sudden, 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:24.600 we're training, they draft JP Lossman, and then you know, 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:26.600 but we're thinking, maybe that's a top ten pick and 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:29.840 ended up to be number twenty. Yeah, our pick was worse, 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:33.600 Our original pick was worse than the Buffalo pick. But 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:35.520 you were thinking, man, we might get a top ten 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:39.720 pick out of this one. You know's it's compelling. You're 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:42.080 going for a quarterback that you it's the number one 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:44.960 guy on your board. You're going for your number one quarterback. 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:47.840 Is what you're doing. And if if, in fact, if 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:51.440 in fact, if you know what the Rams are doing, 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:55.320 if they take if they take wins, to me, I 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:57.680 think you have to talk about that. I'll bet you 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:00.280 ten dollars right now that they don't take wins. I 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:03.240 think it'll be golf. Okay, well, which, yeah, which kind 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:06.040 of makes this a moot. Point. Okay, but we're just 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:09.680 this is a dractional I know, um, I'm just asking 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:10.960 you if you would do it. I feel a lot 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:14.360 better doing it knowing that they didn't do what I 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:16.960 wanted them to do to address the position in free agency. 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:19.760 You know, ask you this Colt McCoy or Chase Daniel 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:22.080 was on this team, I'd say, hell no, but they're not. 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:24.960 You don't you don't feel great and I'm not going 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:26.840 to ask you this question. But you don't feel great 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:30.320 about drafting Joey Bosa. You don't feel great. I don't 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:32.240 feel great, but I'd say I feel better about it 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:35.240 than most. Okay, that's fair. But would you if you said, 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:38.240 I can move up with the thought of getting golf 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:41.760 my best quarterback, but I I'm not gonna take Joey Bosa. 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:44.920 Is there any other player that you would feel that 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:47.200 you would feel different about that. You're trading up. You 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:50.200 know you're trading up, so I'm like, I'm getting golf, 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:52.280 but I'm losing this. Yeah, I mean, well, in light 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:55.000 of this trade, I think it's I really didn't know 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:58.000 how realistic it was. I think it's very realistic possibility 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:02.360 that Jalen Ramsey winds up a cowboy now, and I'm fine, 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:05.000 give me Jalen Ramsey and let me keep all my picks. 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:10.520 Cleveland takes Tonsil, You're you're your trouble. They're absolutely you're Trump. 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:14.399 But Cleveland could trade out, Cleveland could theoretically take a 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:17.720 quarterback right, and then you wind up with I mean, 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:19.320 I feel like it would be hard for San Diego 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:21.720 to pass on Tounsil. Yeah. Man, then you wind up 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:23.560 with Jalen Ramsey, whom a lot of people think is 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:26.240 the best overall player in this draft at four. I'll 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:28.520 take that over getting rid of picks to get Jared Goff. 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:31.720 You secure your future, don't you? I think I do. Yeah, 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:34.280 I make a splash um And like I said, it's 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:38.480 stings giving up draft picks. But I look at Jared 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:41.520 Goff in my building knowing he's He's mine for the 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:44.320 next five years, regardless of what happens with Tony Romo. 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:47.720 I feel pretty good about that. I don't have a 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:51.600 good argument against it. But people get a little queasy 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:55.240 about that, don't It's nerve wracking. It's a it's when 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:57.840 you start, when you're I mean, it's one thing when 0:17:57.880 --> 0:18:00.159 you're twenty seven and you're picking a guy who's to 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:02.359 play dimeback for you as a rookie. You know, but 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:05.120 when you start talking about these franchise altering moves, it's 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:07.919 I don't think I'd have the stomach to do it. 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:10.640 For real. Kudos to them. Yeah, that's what you do. 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:12.640 You sit in there and you make those decisions. Those 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:15.959 are an easy decisions. No, it's not an easy decisions. 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:19.320 I mean, ten years from now, I'm not I won't 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:21.320 be a Cowboys writer. Maybe I won't even be in 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:25.119 the media. Like I'll have kids, be terrifying, and like 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:29.120 Jared Goff will be thirty five and like Brady Yeah, 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:31.320 just kicking ass and winning Super Bowls, And I'm like, 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:33.720 I did not love that guy. Yeah, that's why the 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:35.560 draft I have to live with that real quick before 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:38.480 we take our first break. Any news that you've heard 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:43.960 about Miles Jack in this recheck? No good news? Yeah 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:48.840 put it that way. Yeahs the last two days, it's 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:51.879 just yeah, it's unfortunate. Some teams are gonna look at 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:56.600 these knees differently. But I think we can almost rule 0:18:56.680 --> 0:18:59.000 out Miles Jack for here. Yeah, you know, I just 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:02.040 don't think it's gonna happen. Their teams are worried about that. Nat. Yeah, 0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:04.600 and it's, uh, that's a shame for a guy like me. 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:07.240 Had I had my U c l A palm palms 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:10.000 out for that one. Yeah, heavy sigh of depression. Members 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:12.440 of the Miles Jack fan club and so you hate 0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:15.040 to see that. But you're hearing Miles not a possibility 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:18.280 for here, are well right, and it's he he can 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:20.679 run right now, he can move right now. It's but 0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:22.760 it's the long term that you're worried. They want to 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:25.520 deal with that. Exactly this team. You know, when you're 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:27.720 talking about a top five pick, you don't want to 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:32.399 have the Yeah, exactly so, and they hate it. But 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:34.880