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Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft show. Cowboys

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Speaker 1: on your war Room for insider news and draft analysis

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Speaker 1: from deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at Valley Rant.

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Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys Selection by Rand Joe and now your

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Speaker 1: hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's thirteen days until the NFL Draft takes place. Wow,

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Speaker 1: it's amazing that we started this journey. Yeah, what was

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Speaker 1: the count on day one? The first show? Yeah, like

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Speaker 1: the matthis one too much for my LSU brain one

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Speaker 1: twenty or something like that. It was. But we've we've

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Speaker 1: got to this point where we're two weeks away. Brian

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Speaker 1: brought us along with Dane Brugler from CBS Sports and

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com, David Hellman from Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

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Speaker 1: Kit Garrison Executive produce Today, gentlemen, As you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: always just going to dive right into things. We got

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Speaker 1: some things to talk We got about some things to

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Speaker 1: talk about. First off, we surprised at the way that

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Speaker 1: the La Rams were able to manipulate to get to

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Speaker 1: the first overall pick in this draft. We knew if

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Speaker 1: they were going to go up there, obviously, from fifteen

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Speaker 1: to one, which we've never seen before. We've never seen

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Speaker 1: a team go from fifteen up to one. So we

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Speaker 1: knew if it was going to happen, it's gonna have

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Speaker 1: to take a lot, and they sure gave up a lot. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and what Dane's talking about a lot? They did give up.

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Speaker 1: They gave up pick overall pick first, their first round

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Speaker 1: pick number fifteen, number, their second round pick forty three,

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Speaker 1: second round pick forty five, and third round pick seventy six,

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Speaker 1: and then next year's one and three for that right

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Speaker 1: to draft the first overall spot. Tennessee flips the one

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Speaker 1: overall as we've talked about four, the fourth round pick,

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Speaker 1: which is one thirteen, and pick in the sixth round,

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Speaker 1: pick one seventy seven. We all sound very calm and

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Speaker 1: collected right now because we've had we've had twenty eight

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Speaker 1: hours to digest this. Uh I yeah, hell yeah, I

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Speaker 1: was surprised. I was freaking out yesterday. That's how I

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Speaker 1: woke up. I said, my alarms like seven forty five,

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Speaker 1: that just starts coming across the screen all at once.

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Speaker 1: You know, I follow every NFL writer there is on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: so I'm just running. It was like a fire drill.

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Speaker 1: I was like, what do I do with my hands?

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Speaker 1: What's going this is? Dane said it, We've never seen

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Speaker 1: this before? Yeah, well I never. I I mean we've

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Speaker 1: been talking about the Rams trading up to four. I

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Speaker 1: was trying to get just two first two second round picks.

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Speaker 1: First of all, the price was way off. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know it's they went they went to one and

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Speaker 1: not four, but still they gave up so much more.

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Speaker 1: And on top of that, I just I even thought

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Speaker 1: fifteen to four was too big of a jump. I mean,

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Speaker 1: what do you usually see. You know that the Bills

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Speaker 1: went to four from like nine for Sammy Watkins. That's

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Speaker 1: the type of stuff you usually see, you know, where

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Speaker 1: fortune favors the bold, David maybe, yeah, or the desperate

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Speaker 1: or the desperate and well, there's some people that might

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Speaker 1: not agree with you on that though. I do agree

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Speaker 1: maybe the spice fisher in and let's need three more years.

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Speaker 1: Well that's what we're talking about desperate, because they are

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Speaker 1: desperate for a quarterback and this is their lifeline. You know,

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Speaker 1: they don't really care about twenty seventeen draft right now.

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Speaker 1: They care about the here and now. Yeah, and you

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Speaker 1: know this gives them a future. Now, what is that future?

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Speaker 1: Is that Carson Wentz or is that Jared Goff. I

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Speaker 1: don't think we have an answer yet. Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 1: think we're gonna hear some people out there. And this

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Speaker 1: is my theory on this situation. The Rams know who

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Speaker 1: Some people they're telling they want Jared Goff, some people

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Speaker 1: they're telling they want Carson. They want there to be

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Speaker 1: a split opinion because they want Cleveland at two who

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Speaker 1: don't think it's going to work. How about that thirty

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Speaker 1: but I similar to with Dave, I did a seven

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, that's true, just unbelievable. Tell me why.

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Speaker 1: the what you think Jeff Fisher and the Rams will do.

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Speaker 1: overpay on this trade by a second round pick. They

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Speaker 1: absolutely are. But and I think Peter King made this

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Speaker 1: now I think it's a trade that makes sense for

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Speaker 1: both teams. The Rams have a pretty that's a deep roster.

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Speaker 1: Let's remember that last year general manager there too. By

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Speaker 1: the way, last year we had two excellent rookie quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: talk about Bridgewater, right and car But both those teams,

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Speaker 1: you know, this is something I was just thinking what

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Speaker 1: Jeff Fisher normally is. Yeah, no, and you're you're not wrong. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what history tells us. Yeah. Let me ask you

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Speaker 1: the gamesmanship. If you are in the market for a

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Speaker 1: get one of them, and I mean, I know you

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Speaker 1: like Paxson Lynch, but I'm talking about Winston. Golf, go ahead, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they do, and Wentz goes one. I still think that

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks go one too. I think the bigger question is

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Speaker 1: that's more. I agree with what he says. I think

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Speaker 1: it fits. My point is that I still I don't

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Speaker 1: think there's a clear difference between golf and wins. How

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Speaker 1: would not be shocked at all if say Cleveland prefers

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks are going one too. It just the number two

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Speaker 1: I think, And I mean, Dane's plugged into the Browns,

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Speaker 1: Golf was a top ten quarterback. I don't think Carson

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Speaker 1: I've heard from Cleveland people that that they like wins,

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Speaker 1: the metrics in analytics, how that's going to play into

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Speaker 1: they want to figure out a way to accumulate picks.

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Speaker 1: They were, they were they wanted the Tennessee deal. They

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Speaker 1: I mean, they wanted to do They wanted the deal

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Speaker 1: that the Rams absolutely wouldn't want that deal. That was

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Speaker 1: the deal. Good point. Yeah, but they But see the

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Speaker 1: fact that Cleveland needs a quarterback, or we think Cleveland

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Speaker 1: tounsil I honestly, I mean, is that a possibility? I

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Speaker 1: But if we if we like these quarterbacks at the

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Speaker 1: I think the best odds that they're gonna take a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: Put it right there. You make, You make a compelling argument.

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Speaker 1: just we'll focus a lot on the Cowboys, but we'll

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Speaker 1: talk about everybody else's pick as well. I always think

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Speaker 1: ed k Hill for doing this. We have Twitter, David Hellman,

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Speaker 1: it's your show. As you might guess, Cowboys fans are

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Speaker 1: very curious what this mega trade means for how the

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Speaker 1: landscape kind of looks for the Cowboys. So we'll get

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Speaker 1: right into it. Shout out to Nebbi. Yes, thank you, friend,

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Speaker 1: Silver Springs gut feeling, Jalen Ramsey, is he there at

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Speaker 1: for in light of all of this news, I think

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Speaker 1: so possibility there, Yeah, I'm a strong possibility. I think yeah.

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Speaker 1: If we see quarterbacks go one, two, good chance Laremy

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Speaker 1: Tunsel goes three. And in that case, every defensive players

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Speaker 1: on the board for the Cowboys, whether they want to

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Speaker 1: go Bosa or they want to go Ramsey, either way

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Speaker 1: they can go. I think the two defensive players are

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Speaker 1: holding on would be would be Ramsey and Bosa, and

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Speaker 1: the offensive player is Zeke. If I had to it

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Speaker 1: had to pick. If if it comes down to those

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Speaker 1: three will be, I'll be very interested to see. But

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Speaker 1: it's three really good options. Yeah. Three. More so than anything,

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Speaker 1: I think people kind of lose the plot like they're

522
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Speaker 1: gonna get a really good player on my draft board.

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Speaker 1: Those are three of my top five players in this draft.

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Speaker 1: So very good. But thank you for the question. Again,

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Speaker 1: I mean these and these are the type of questions

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Speaker 1: we're getting, uh, just kind of trying to shuffle that

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Speaker 1: order in the top four. Trey wants to know. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's say Wins goes one, golf goes to Ramsey three.

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Speaker 1: You're sitting there with Tunsel on the board, you draft him.

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Speaker 1: I do, all right, Well, let me ask you this

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Speaker 1: than uh, the phone's not ringing. I feel like the

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Speaker 1: phone would be ringing. People will want Laramie Tunsel if

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Speaker 1: he's at four. But if he's there four and you

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Speaker 1: don't have a trade partner, you're still not taking him.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna take Bosa. I have to take someone else.

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Speaker 1: This This offensive line's already great. I don't need to

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Speaker 1: make it even greater. I have so many their holes

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Speaker 1: on this team that I could address with that pick.

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Speaker 1: I'm a true believer and best player available. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: not in every situation. This is one of those. I

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Speaker 1: think this is one of the times you have to

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Speaker 1: go with the best player on your board. This is

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Speaker 1: state and we talk about what's the risk that you're

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Speaker 1: taking here. You're adding a great player to your roster.

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Speaker 1: You're adding a great player to your team. If you

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Speaker 1: want to play a round, mess around with a second

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Speaker 1: round pick, the third round pick, the fourth round pick,

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Speaker 1: and take take a need there. Okay, fine, but with

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Speaker 1: that with that pick being as important as high as

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Speaker 1: it is, if I get a chance to draft a

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Speaker 1: guy that I think is maybe the number one player

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Speaker 1: not on my board, but on their board. Right, then

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Speaker 1: I think you have to take that. I think you

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Speaker 1: have to. Also, if the phone would ring, I think

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Speaker 1: that's the best shot for your phone to ring. I

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Speaker 1: think if you want to go back, the best shot

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Speaker 1: I think is if one of those quarterbacks still. I

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Speaker 1: think if it's Tonsil, you think so, I do. I do.

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Speaker 1: You've got to make these people think that you'll take Tonsil.

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Speaker 1: But do you think that Tonsil's number one on their board?

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Speaker 1: I don't, that's I don't think so. I think that

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Speaker 1: we those three players we talked about, I think they'd

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Speaker 1: rather have one of those three players than Tunsil. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: even Tunsil to heck, I don't think they expect Tonsila

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Speaker 1: be there. That's that's a great issue. I agree that's

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Speaker 1: the issue there. But I but if you're if they're

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Speaker 1: if their board is their boards the way the boards

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Speaker 1: that we know, he's your number one player, right, he's

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Speaker 1: my number one player. Yeah, but it's it's still weird

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Speaker 1: doing this thing. And do you think about Baltimore, UM Philly,

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Speaker 1: I think even Tampa probably, Yeah, all sitting there. What

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Speaker 1: if you can what if you could get Tennessee to

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Speaker 1: come back up? We actually talked about that in the

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Speaker 1: mail bag today. Yeah, don't And I kind of think

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Speaker 1: the same thing that I thought, which obviously they kind

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Speaker 1: of just proved me wrong. That's a huge jump man.

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Speaker 1: And I know, uh, they've got a better, They've got

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Speaker 1: a better, they've got better second round picks. Now. I

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Speaker 1: know he's got a thirty, he's got a thirty, thirty three.

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Speaker 1: He could play with the guy and Tenant what John

581
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Speaker 1: Robinson's Yeah, he said that that. You know, don't think

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Speaker 1: they're done. I know he's got that. Yeah, but I

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Speaker 1: don't think he's acquiring all this big time draft capital

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Speaker 1: just to get rid of it all. Well, let me

585
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Speaker 1: tell you this. The one player he could flip you.

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Speaker 1: He could flip you. He could go to he could

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Speaker 1: come down. What's he gotta give me to get back?

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Speaker 1: He could if he gives you, If he gives you

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Speaker 1: thirty three and that he's got another way, if he

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Speaker 1: gives you thirty three, forty three, and well, he could

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Speaker 1: give you thirty three, which would make it even sweeter.

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Speaker 1: I'd hold him up on thirty three, to be honest,

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Speaker 1: with you think he's gonna give you because you can.

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Speaker 1: You could ask for the same deal. You could ask

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Speaker 1: for his forty three and forty five, right, but you can.

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Speaker 1: You could also take his You could take his thirty three,

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Speaker 1: and I think he's got it. You could take his

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Speaker 1: thirty three and his seventy six. He'd probably have a

599
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Speaker 1: way easier time getting his hands on like Jack Conklin

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Speaker 1: for less less of a price. In my opinion, that's

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Speaker 1: I just I don't know, I know, I mean, they

602
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Speaker 1: have the capital to do whatever they want after that trade.

603
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Speaker 1: But but why hold him up? I hold him up

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Speaker 1: if if he wants to come and get if he

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Speaker 1: if Tunslan fact is on the board, and my general

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Speaker 1: manager here doesn't want to pick Kim right now, by

607
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Speaker 1: all means field, that call field it if you want

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Speaker 1: to drop to fifteen and you feel good that you're

609
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Speaker 1: still within your range or driving. I just think they've

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Speaker 1: got Luan and they've got there's other tackles that would

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Speaker 1: be easier to get that you don't have to blow

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Speaker 1: those kind of picks on Laramie. What about the giants

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Speaker 1: at ten? They need a tackle? Would you trade within

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Speaker 1: a division for a one and two you move back

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Speaker 1: to ten, so not too far right, but you're also

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Speaker 1: given didn't we say that was five hundred, We said

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Speaker 1: that was five hundred points. It worked perfect It worked

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Speaker 1: perfectly last night because the Cowboys sitting at eighteen hundred,

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Speaker 1: the Giants are sitting at thirteen hundred. The Giants second

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Speaker 1: round pick is five hundred points. So with that being said,

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Speaker 1: that's that's that's what you get from the Giants. You

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Speaker 1: go to ten, you pick up the Giants pick is

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Speaker 1: at forty. So now what you're doing is you're at

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Speaker 1: ten picking the Giants get their tackle. You're picking at ten.

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Speaker 1: That that still kind of puts all of a sudden.

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Speaker 1: The Giants have three first round picks on their line,

627
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Speaker 1: just like the Cowboys. But that's the thing. You're also

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Speaker 1: giving your one of your big Ryan, one of the

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Speaker 1: best players in the draft. It's it sucks because their

630
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Speaker 1: a division rival. But I can't think like that. I mean,

631
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Speaker 1: the Redskins and Cowboys just did a deal. Trade. You

632
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Speaker 1: just make trade. It's now you could lose Zeke. You

633
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Speaker 1: could lose Zeke to Philadelphia and letting now now quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: go one two. We think that Philadelphia, what I would

635
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: really love is if Philly came up to four to

636
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,959
Speaker 1: get Tunsil, because that that way I get out of it.

637
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: I get picks. And I know Philly's not getting Zeke

638
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: because that's nightmare scenario number one for me. Yeah, I

639
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: like that. So you have an opportunity to if you

640
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: want to go to the Giants a ten. That makes

641
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: sense that that that you pick there, you pick up

642
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: number forty, that's your pick. If I think the phone

643
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: will ring if Laramie Tonsil's there at four, but if

644
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: it doesn't, I'll just take him. That's fine. I mean, yeah,

645
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: it's overkill. It is overkill. You're not wrong, but it's

646
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you're that's hard to argue with getting the

647
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: best player in the draft at four and you take

648
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: the Jets spot that we're gonna get Leonard Williams last year. No, no, no,

649
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: And that's what we have. We have to learn from

650
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: the past. And yeah, exactly last year, they're the best player.

651
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: You know what, you know, a lot of people thought

652
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: was the best player fell out of the top five. Yeah,

653
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: and could have happened this year with Tounsil. Yeah, I

654
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: think it's possible. Yeah, because if okay, say that Cowboys

655
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: do not get that trade offer. I don't think they're

656
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: taking Tonsil. Yeah, I think they go one of those

657
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: three players we mentioned, sure, and then five at Jacksonville.

658
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: I don't think they're taking Tounsil. I think Baltimore at

659
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: six would take Baltimore take see Baltimore those teams. He's

660
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: one of those guys that just sits there at players

661
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: fall to him. It's amazing, it is amazing. It's amazing

662
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: how the Ravens get player. Maybe that's because he doesn't

663
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: window dresses board. If you got Tonso number one and

664
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: he's there at four, yeah, is that? We always think

665
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: this team will have tonsol as I remember one time. Okay,

666
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: that changes things? Yeah, where's you been working on a board?

667
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: This team will have Joey Bosa rated over Laramie Tunsil.

668
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: I don't think they're considering Tounsil that if you if

669
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: you're considering Tounsil that highly, you have to do a

670
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: lot of work on him because he's not the cleanest

671
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: prospect off the field, right, and we haven't heard much

672
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: of now, let's be honest, but they've done a lot

673
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: more work on both they have. We know that. Yeah,

674
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: we don't know that they've done a lot of on Tonsil.

675
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean they haven't. They could have done stuff

676
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: behind closed doors, sure, but I don't think they'll have

677
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: to Tonsil rated as high as those other three. I'm

678
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: gonna flip it on your real quick, just to continue

679
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: the conversation, Robert. All right, So Robert wants to know

680
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: quarterback goes number one? Cleveland takes Tonsil, San Diego takes Ramsey.

681
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: You have a quarterback, and then you know the rest

682
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: of the usual suspects sitting there at four. Which quarterback

683
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: He didn't specify which quarterback went to two? He said,

684
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: Tonsil's going to glob will say, golf goes one. You

685
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: got wins, and it's the same. It's the same scenario.

686
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: This is an interest interesting scenario because okay, say this

687
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: team wants golf but they don't want Wentz. Yeah, okay,

688
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: the Eagles call, make you a pretty interesting offer. They

689
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: are going to give up a future one we talked about,

690
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: you know, trading a tackle within a division. Tunsil quarterbacks

691
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: a little different. Are you okay? With the Eagles trading

692
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: up to get their quarterback. You're you're helping the Eagles

693
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: find their quarterback of the future. Are you okay with

694
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: that or your or your help? Are your help them

695
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: take a bus there? Yeah? Yeah, but that's very depending

696
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 1: on how you feel about Wentz, that could be the case.

697
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: It could be the forty nine ers two for that matter. Well,

698
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: and that's why I'm saying the Eagles because they know

699
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: they have to get in front of San Francisco. Yeah, no,

700
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 1: that is true, so that you know, usually inside the division,

701
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: you don't usually see those kind of moves. But well, Dallas,

702
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: Dallas traded with Washington to get but it is Marcus

703
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: Flord're talking about a second round pick, top ten quarterback. Yeah,

704
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: would you do that? I'm not afraid to trade. I

705
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: don't think that I can worry about what I can

706
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 1: become if I can't give me the extra first round pick.

707
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: Well Son, you sound like a scout. I'm not. I'm

708
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: not afraid to trade within the division. If you like

709
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: Wentz that much, you're taking him at four. So if

710
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: you don't, you obviously don't like him enough to take

711
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 1: him at four. Right, So if you're gonna let another

712
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: team come up, I don't think it's as big of

713
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: an issue, but it is just interesting. Yeah, you know

714
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: when we revisionist history, when we look back and say

715
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 1: they was allowed that to happen. If Wentz happens to

716
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: hit you know how, or if he doesn't so fascinating.

717
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: Maurice wants to know if you don't draft Bosa for

718
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,919
Speaker 1: but he basically wants to know who would you feel

719
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: best about drafting defensive lineman thirty four? Can be tackle,

720
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 1: can be an end. If he wants a d lineman

721
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: at thirty four, who do you feel best about? Who

722
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: you got their stud I'm gonna throw my hat in

723
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: the ring for Kevin Dodd, which I don't even know

724
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: if he would be there. I think he would take Bullard.

725
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: I think you like Bullard more, like Bullard a lot

726
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: more and I like God Um. I think that would

727
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: probably be my guy there. Um. In terms of a

728
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: defensive end, Bullard. I love the versatility because he can

729
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,720
Speaker 1: be your left end, put him inside on certain passing downs.

730
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 1: God just doesn't do enough for you, does he. No,

731
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: he's an older prospect. I was encouraged last year. You

732
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: saw as the season went on, as he gained more experience,

733
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: that light bulb started to illuminate more and run and

734
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: that's encouraging, but the testing numbers worry me. He's not

735
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: the most athletic m and I don't know, I just

736
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: don't see an I'm Dodd. I gave him a mid

737
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: second round grade, so I like him in that area.

738
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 1: But he's along, he's with oak Bah and you know

739
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: Shalie Calhoun and you know these guys. Yeah Bill over Joseph? Yes, okay.

740
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 1: So if it comes down to take in the safety,

741
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 1: would you take Bullard over Bill? Yes, I would take

742
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 1: the defensive linement over the safe over the safety player. Okay,

743
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 1: you think bullets first round player? Okay, okay. And well

744
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: in Joseph it wasn't for the knee, Yeah, he'd probably

745
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: be higher for me, But then the knee worries me.

746
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: And so that's another one of those wild cars based

747
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 1: on yeah, what the medical reachecks say. Here's one. He's

748
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 1: right about Bullard, by the way, he's a good player.

749
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 1: He's a good player. Mister Bombay has one that I

750
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: think you'll like because it's something we've talked about extensively. Uh,

751
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 1: Doctor Bombay, Goff and Wentz are both gone. Paxton Lynch

752
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: is your number ten player overall in this draft. Okay,

753
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: do you take him? Considering the position and considering the need,

754
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: you just take him at four might even be a reach.

755
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: It is a reach. But but you're telling me though,

756
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 1: there's there's down to four and there I have sick

757
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 1: other players ahead of him. Yes see, that's that's where

758
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: I have a problem. But it is a quarterback. I mean,

759
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: I feel like Dan and I are kind of on

760
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 1: the same page with it. I mean, if you gotta

761
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,439
Speaker 1: weigh it differently. Yeah, and this is why I think

762
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: you know you almost can't conclude quarterbacks on your overall

763
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: I agree, but they're already They're always the quarterbacks are

764
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: always pushed up higher on the board. I my experience

765
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 1: came in here. They happen. There's so they'll get to

766
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: put a quarterback in a position to draft. In my opinion,

767
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: there's only six players in this draft that you feel

768
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: better about than Paxton Lynch in this scenario, Right, do

769
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: you just take him? I don't know if I jumped

770
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: the board like that, not not with six. I might

771
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: do it with one or two, but I don't think

772
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: i'd do it for six. When you stack the quarterback

773
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: on your board, I think you're already putting in the

774
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: fact that you're moving them up higher than you would

775
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: actually take him. You know, you're looking at who's in

776
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: front of him. Yeah, we take him over the quarterback. Okay,

777
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: but at a certain point you're taking Lynch over. Even

778
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: though you might think that shack Loss is a better player,

779
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: You're going to take the quarterback maybe ahead of him.

780
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: It's they did is on your board. They did it

781
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 1: with Manzel. If you think about Chazer and Martin right

782
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: both over, I mean, you know they considerate Well, hey,

783
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: Johnny's still there. So anyway, one more question, if it

784
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: could Dave, Yeah, Justin wants to know. Let's say Jalen

785
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: Ramsey's the pick at four, Karl Joseph is there at

786
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: thirty four. You see this team double dipping at that question,

787
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: I asked last night. That's what I did in my

788
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: seven round MOK for this team. Yeah, I went Jalen

789
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: Ramsey because I believe they see him as an outside corner, right,

790
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: and then you get your safety and all of a sudden,

791
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 1: your secondary. It looks a lot better than it did yesterday. Um.

792
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: It's an interesting point because maybe Ramsey's best position is safety,

793
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: but maybe I think it's You're absolutely right. But we

794
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: don't know how this team views him. And and that's

795
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: where the question is, do they view Jalen Ramsey as

796
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: a pure outside corner and if they that's where he's

797
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: going to start, right But if they think that, you know,

798
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: that's where he's going to play, that's what we're drafting

799
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: him as, then I think absolutely we could see that happen.

800
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: Now if they look at him maybe like a little

801
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 1: bit like Iroon Jones, where we're gonna start him there,

802
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: but we're also going to use them a little bit.

803
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: We're gonna use them a little bit, uh, you know,

804
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 1: maybe even at safety some some formations. If they're thinking

805
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 1: that way, then I don't think we see her. Carl

806
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: find it's interesting safe teams have William Jackson in the

807
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 1: first round. It is like their best corner some teams.

808
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: If Ramsey's on this team, and I mean if they

809
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: draft him, I really do think he will kind of

810
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: play that buyer and roll at the start. Yeah, it's

811
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: just he's talented to just Pigeonholen. Okay, thank you very much,

812
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 1: Davey Paul, Thanks everybody for sending in Twitter questions. We

813
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: appreciate that. Very good questions today. By the way too,

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00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,720
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Speaker 1: so we have uh meet and greets. It's it's unreal,

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Speaker 1: especially if I know that we're the Draft Show. What

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Speaker 1: was that because the schedule came out like twelve hours

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Speaker 1: ago and we that's the first time we've even mentioned. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well I'll tell you what though, I'll mention again because

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Speaker 1: the road at Pittsburgh. He'd love to say hello, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I want I want to visit the fans with you

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Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, you never take me along on the meeting.

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Speaker 1: We'll go, We'll go. We gotta we got to find

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Speaker 1: a stake place though in Minneapolis. Day that's as speaking

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Speaker 1: for us. Okay, we are back with the Draft Show. Uh,

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Speaker 1: kind of going through a lot of different things, a

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Speaker 1: lot of different scenarios. I feel better about last year

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Speaker 1: who they were going to take as I do right now.

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Speaker 1: I think it's really up in the air, but trying

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Speaker 1: to do this best as we can to draft fund though. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, we're this is truly about investigate and education.

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Speaker 1: I've always said that it is. I have no problem

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Speaker 1: going over thirty two or over thirty one this year

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Speaker 1: on my mock draft. Yeah, no problem with that, because

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Speaker 1: that means the draft was fun. Yeah, undrafted. Well, this

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Speaker 1: trade did put some juice into it, though not only

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Speaker 1: they did put some juice into that draft, maybe like

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Speaker 1: an avalanche effect where I mean, you know we're talking

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Speaker 1: about it, but I mean it's not over like. There's

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Speaker 1: gonna be some more of these absolutely. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: there's a trade before the draft even starts, there's gonna

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Speaker 1: be two or three more. I think. I think you're

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Speaker 1: absolutely right, especially in that top ten. We're thirteen days

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Speaker 1: away from doing that. We're gonna play We're gonna do

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Speaker 1: a little tell me more here, and Dave Hellman's gonna

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Speaker 1: take over the show at the end of the show.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do this for a little bit. I want

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Speaker 1: to I want to take some calls again. Let's line

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Speaker 1: them up as you see on the screen there eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight, five five two two nine seven is our

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Speaker 1: phone number. I will remind you that we're all doing well,

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Speaker 1: happy to be here for the Draft show. So if

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Speaker 1: you get to your question, we'll get to your answer,

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Speaker 1: and then we'll move along that way. So be nice

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Speaker 1: to KNT Garrison when you talk to him on the phone. So, Dave,

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Speaker 1: tell me more. This is easily the biggest name I've

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Speaker 1: featured on Tell Me More. But he was a thirty

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Speaker 1: visit and I want to know more about Jacobe Brissette,

902
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Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl quarterback from North care Line of State.

903
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Speaker 1: What you think of his game? How you like is

904
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Speaker 1: fit for the Cowboys? You like him more than ninety

905
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Speaker 1: broadest I do. Physically has what you want. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's built well, No. Six four two or thirty pounds.

907
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Speaker 1: He's got a strong arm. He's a good person. Um

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Speaker 1: you know, he has a I think enough mobility to

909
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Speaker 1: at least will not be a statue back there. He

910
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Speaker 1: can move around a little bit, and he's tough as heck.

911
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Speaker 1: I mean, you see guys draped all over him. He's

912
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Speaker 1: able to you know, you see a little Roethlisberger in

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Speaker 1: that respect. My biggest concern is I don't see consistent

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Speaker 1: downfield passing. I don't see the confidence. I don't see

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Speaker 1: the vision. I don't see uh you know, he doesn't

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Speaker 1: pull the trigger quick enough and so for me, that's

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Speaker 1: usually not something that you see get better or fix

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Speaker 1: when you go to the NFL level and everything's just faster.

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Speaker 1: So that for me, that's why I'm not as high

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Speaker 1: on Brissette, But I understand those who are because that

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Speaker 1: is really one of the only main questions with him,

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Speaker 1: because he does have a lot he checks a lot

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Speaker 1: of the other boxes. I think he got the player right.

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Speaker 1: But the things I saw, I said, this kid was

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Speaker 1: not afraid to rip it, you know. I mean he'll

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Speaker 1: he will throw it. And you got arm, you know,

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Speaker 1: that's the arm part of it about him. I do

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Speaker 1: agree with with Dane. Though he does miss some open receivers.

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Speaker 1: You'll see some guys at times where guys are clear

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Speaker 1: and he'll miss, and you know, but you could also

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Speaker 1: see him make the make the right hash to left

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Speaker 1: sideline throw. That's a very positive I think I thought

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Speaker 1: he needed to play a little bit more awareness, but

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Speaker 1: I just really liked I liked the arm talent. I

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Speaker 1: like the fact he was hanging in there on blitz

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Speaker 1: Is when I was watching him play, but you know,

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Speaker 1: and the fact that he'll rip it. I think those

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Speaker 1: are all positively. I could see why they brought him

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Speaker 1: in though he's in that range where you got your

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Speaker 1: first three guys. Okay, now, who are the next guys.

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Speaker 1: They brought in Cook, they brought in Hackenburg, they brought

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Speaker 1: in this guy. He might be in that next tier

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Speaker 1: of guys. Maybe he won't be as high as Hackenburg

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Speaker 1: and those guys, but maybe a round lower than them.

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Speaker 1: But I have him, I have him on my board

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Speaker 1: in the fourth round is where I have him. Makes sense.

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Speaker 1: I got him in the and I've got now. I

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Speaker 1: like Alan Moore myself. I had a Hackingburg, Prescott and

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Speaker 1: Alan in my third set, said Field and Cook in

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Speaker 1: the fourth is how I had. I have him in

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Speaker 1: a six. That's where I would feel comfortable taking him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: tell me more about Colorado State linebacker Corey James. Solid player. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He's interesting because Colorado State ran a three to four

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Speaker 1: right and he was an outside rushier primarily, uh, and

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Speaker 1: he put up some some good sack numbers, some good

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Speaker 1: tackle for lost numbers. But then his past year, his

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Speaker 1: senior year, they moved to a four to three and

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Speaker 1: they moved him to the middle. So he's playing a

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Speaker 1: lot of Mike playing a different position. Now you see

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Speaker 1: the athleticism. He's not the biggest guy. He's about six

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Speaker 1: one two or thirty pounds, that's exactly. But you like

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Speaker 1: the competitiveness that you see in him. Plays with some fire.

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Speaker 1: He can move really well. But where do you play him? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I thought that this was a guy that you might

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Speaker 1: even in the time on him, we had probably they

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Speaker 1: probably a better time. I had a four six on

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Speaker 1: the kid. And but Dane's right, this guy is an

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Speaker 1: edge rusher though he mean he's he stays active. What

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Speaker 1: I was saying, uh, you know, wrap up tackler, hasn't

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Speaker 1: knows the ball, can change direction, plays his hands, he

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Speaker 1: can capture edge. He's got some bend. I mean I

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Speaker 1: watched games against Colorado, Boise, Wyoming air Force, played the

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Speaker 1: low block, played with balance, he could get the outside.

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Speaker 1: This is a guy that you might consider the way

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Speaker 1: he moves move him to safety. This might be one

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Speaker 1: of those those guys that you because of the change

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Speaker 1: in direction and the burst and that ability to bend

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Speaker 1: and play with balance, that you might say, Hey, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna look at you as a safety. But he could.

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Speaker 1: But you watch him, he'll he'll put his hand on

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Speaker 1: the ground and he will go and he will dip

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Speaker 1: and he will he will get to the quarterback. I

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Speaker 1: mean he could, he could cause some problems, but he's

984
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Speaker 1: well those guys, it's got a lot of different things.

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Speaker 1: I think Dan's right. Where do you play him? He

986
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Speaker 1: could play a lot of different things. I might even

987
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Speaker 1: consider look him as a safety. These protay numbers are great.

988
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Speaker 1: Four sixty one, sixty three, ten yards split, thirty five verte,

989
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Speaker 1: ten seven broad six six five three cone. It's fantastic

990
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Speaker 1: for a six one two or thirty pounds. That's maybe

991
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Speaker 1: where you think, you know, I just that's the kind

992
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Speaker 1: of the guy. And again he was a visit he

993
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Speaker 1: was a thirty visit guy here, so I brought him up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so why you know they've got obviously they have an

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Speaker 1: idea of what they can they can do with him.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of safeties, we talked a lot about We've talked

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Speaker 1: plenty about Jalen Ramsey, We've talked a lot about Karl

998
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Speaker 1: Joseph Barry. I mean, safety seems important. They Church and

999
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Speaker 1: Wilcox are both on contract years, right So I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at safeties and I want to know more about DeAndre

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Speaker 1: Houston Carson from the College of William and Mary. I

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Speaker 1: saw it, Dan Dane's got a pretty good grade on

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Speaker 1: the guy, so I want to know more. I game

1004
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Speaker 1: a third round grade, which that sounds like the sweet

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Speaker 1: spot for me. And this is a player that he

1006
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Speaker 1: played corner they moved into safety. The versatility is what

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Speaker 1: you really like about him because he can do a lot,

1008
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Speaker 1: not only on defense, but also on special teams. He's

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Speaker 1: reminds me a lot of Justin Bethel when he was

1010
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Speaker 1: coming out, and you know he's gone to the Cardinals,

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Speaker 1: hasn't been the most consistent defensive back, but he just

1012
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Speaker 1: got an extension because he does give you death in

1013
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Speaker 1: the secondary. But it's his value on special teams that

1014
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Speaker 1: makes him so special. So, I mean, you're looking at

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Speaker 1: Houston Houston Carson. First of all, what kind of a

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Speaker 1: When this picks announced, it was like five first names here. Yeah,

1017
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Speaker 1: DeAndre Houston Carson, William Mary. Yeah. Yes, but you know,

1018
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Speaker 1: six one two hundred pounds ran a four or five

1019
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: forty at the combine. I think you can do a

1020
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Speaker 1: lot with this player. Whether he's gonna play free safety four,

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Speaker 1: whether he's gonna play a nickel role, regardless that you're

1022
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Speaker 1: getting a very good specialty. Yeah, he's a physical player too,

1023
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Speaker 1: and that's something. I mean. The thing that the thing

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Speaker 1: I was most impressed with William and Murray was behind

1025
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Speaker 1: in a lot of games. When you're watching the scoreboard

1026
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Speaker 1: and he's still playing hard. You know, that reminds me

1027
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Speaker 1: a little bit about Ron Leary when Ron Leary came

1028
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Speaker 1: out and Ron Larrie when drafted. But you watch him

1029
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Speaker 1: play and Memphis is getting crushed in these games against

1030
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Speaker 1: Mississippi State and those type of opponents, and he's still

1031
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Speaker 1: playing hard. And this kid's the same way. I thought

1032
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Speaker 1: he needed to play with a little bit better body control.

1033
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Speaker 1: You know, I thought there were some things. I thought

1034
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Speaker 1: there was some times where he was poor technique wise

1035
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Speaker 1: as a tackler, But you know, I could see I

1036
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Speaker 1: had him in the fifth round. It is where I

1037
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Speaker 1: had him. But I could understand with the Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: could see it though six foot one ninety seven four

1039
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Speaker 1: five two. You know, I wish he tackled a little

1040
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Speaker 1: bit better, But the fact that he played so hard

1041
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Speaker 1: when his team was always behind, I think this is

1042
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Speaker 1: says a little bit about the kid. Yeah, I'm with you.

1043
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Speaker 1: I mean, very average from a size speech strength standpoint,

1044
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Speaker 1: but I think he's well versed in multiple coverages. He

1045
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Speaker 1: could do a lot of things. Like I mentioned nine

1046
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Speaker 1: block kicks on special teams. That's not an accident. H Yeah,

1047
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Speaker 1: that's a boatload and you look at it. We mentioned

1048
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Speaker 1: this before, but I think Passes defended one of those

1049
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Speaker 1: stats that I think absolutely translates. He had thirty four

1050
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Speaker 1: over his career. For your starter senior captain, I like

1051
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 1: when you guys aren't lockstep with each other. Yeah, it's fun. Um.

1052
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 1: He was in the news this week his inctable appeal

1053
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: just got denied. The late round guy. This is a

1054
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: guy you're gonna have to do because I have not

1055
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,720
Speaker 1: seen at play. Tell me about Drew Att from Iowa.

1056
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: First of all, you hate it for the kid because

1057
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: this he wanted to go back to Iowa and up

1058
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: until two weeks ago or this past week, he thought

1059
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 1: he was there. Yeah, and I'm an agent, you know,

1060
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 1: because he wanted to keep that option open and the

1061
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:33,240
Speaker 1: NCA drugged their feet and um, appeal after appeal after appeal.

1062
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: But Drew will be a part of his draft class.

1063
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: He couldn't work out at the Calm. He wasn't the combine,

1064
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: I remember that, but he couldn't work out because of right,

1065
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: well the injury as well. Yeah, he missed most of

1066
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 1: his senior year because of an ACL or else also

1067
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 1: had an elbow injury, so he was really banged up. Um,

1068
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: this is a guy that, uh, you know, when you

1069
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: would think of an when Iowa pass rusher looks like

1070
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: this is Drew Watt. Uh you know it was all

1071
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:01,720
Speaker 1: over the play so ration or you know, more hustle

1072
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,760
Speaker 1: than skill. Um, you know he's uh, he's technically sounding

1073
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,760
Speaker 1: in in some areas where he can you know, beat blockers.

1074
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 1: So you're getting a competitive hustler. Who was Aaron Campman

1075
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: from Iowa. Do you remember who I'm talking about with

1076
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,879
Speaker 1: the Packers Nebraska? And I'll look him up one day

1077
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: Aaron Campon, I know, I know you're talking about. But

1078
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: for Drew Odd, I mean, he's he's a day three rusher.

1079
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: You know, he's tire to look at you just I

1080
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 1: have to look at him myself. I know now I

1081
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 1: have to do that and then he's on my things

1082
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 1: ahead of you, Brian, he is way ahead of me

1083
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: on on odd he's He's the last guy that I

1084
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: wrote up because for my book, because I was waiting

1085
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 1: to find out he's going to be part of this

1086
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: draft class? Is he not? And I did all the

1087
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: work on him, but I was just waiting, and so

1088
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: I did his report. Co Ago, of course you did

1089
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: all the work on a guy that you didn't know

1090
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: was going to be in the draft. Well, but so

1091
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: you're I mean, is he a draft pick you think

1092
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: or a priority free agent? Sounds banged up? Yeah, he

1093
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: is pretty banged up and that and that's what it

1094
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,240
Speaker 1: could come down to the medicals. If not for the injuries,

1095
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,040
Speaker 1: he is draftable. Aaron Campman. He played ten years in

1096
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: the league. He was at schooled Iowa. Now you go,

1097
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: good memory, Yeah, thank you? Tell me more. Do we

1098
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: have time for one more? Yeah? Go for one more?

1099
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: Well I take that back day. That's fine if we

1100
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: do it quick. I want to take some calls. I

1101
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: really I care more about him as a returner than

1102
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: a corner. Cyrus Jones, Alabama another Senior Bowl guy, could

1103
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: be a top nickel corner for draft. You know, not

1104
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 1: the biggest guy, but he competes. That's the problem. Is though.

1105
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: You see the ball go over the top of him.

1106
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: That's the thing. I mean, there's there's times now he

1107
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: battled those Mississippi. Those Mississippi's got some size at receiver

1108
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: and he battled his rear off to try and stay

1109
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 1: in position. But there are also some games where you

1110
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: see that ball go and he's doing all he can

1111
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 1: to go up the ladder to knock it away. The

1112
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: return part, though, is very very interesting. Yeah, he's quality,

1113
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: one of the best in the nation of doing that's

1114
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: what's his grade. I think there's a shot he could

1115
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: sneak into the top one hundred, but I think probably

1116
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 1: more fourth. Yeah. You know who loved working with him

1117
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,280
Speaker 1: in Mobile was Mike Tomlin. Like he was he wanted

1118
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: to watch that guy more than any of the other

1119
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: guys that were there. Look good for Mike Tomlin's your

1120
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: buddy name, Mike Tomlin. I just love how he's always around.

1121
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: He's always everywhere, He's everywhere. Okay, Well, thank you very

1122
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: much for that day. Appreciate down and tell me more.

1123
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 1: All right, Ken Garrison, we got five minutes left in

1124
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Speaker 1: this show. I'm gonna turn it over to you now.

1125
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: Samon San Antonio you're up. Hey, guys, U one of

1126
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: the first I ask you to tell me more about

1127
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: Sua Cravens. Would you play him at safety or thank you?

1128
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: Or headline backer number one? Number two? Right? I know

1129
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 1: you like guys to think outside of the box. And

1130
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: this is where one thing I was thinking about. Um,

1131
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: if the you know, if the Browns did not go

1132
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 1: and they decided to go with RG three for this

1133
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: year and what have you, would you consider the Cowboys.

1134
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 1: Let's say if they traded Terrence Williams and Ron Leary.

1135
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,399
Speaker 1: I think he fit, they fit both of the needs

1136
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 1: that they Cleveland half and maybe they Cowboys swapped their

1137
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: third round pick four Cleveland's second round pick, and would

1138
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: that be uh? Would it marry up as far as

1139
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,959
Speaker 1: the value? Okay, thank you? So we're moving. Players want picks,

1140
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: So we're sending Leary and Terrence and sixty seven two

1141
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 1: Cleveland four thirty three? Yeah for thirty three. Cleveland won't

1142
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: do it. That doesn't I don't. I don't think so.

1143
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I I appreciate the because he is no

1144
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 1: problem with that, and it might work with another trade partner.

1145
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: But Cleveland they don't want, you know, players, especially guys

1146
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 1: that are in one year deals and they want draft picks.

1147
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: They want guys they can develop in their own system.

1148
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:37,280
Speaker 1: So and to a Craven's real quick. He's tough because

1149
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:38,959
Speaker 1: where do you play him? That's the that's the question.

1150
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 1: He's more of a linebacker, I guess. But you have

1151
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: to have a plan for him. If you're going to

1152
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: draft him, you have to use him in a hybrid role.

1153
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: He's a very good football player. I mean he's always

1154
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 1: around the action. That's not by accident. He knows what

1155
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: he's doing out there. But you have to have a

1156
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 1: plan for how you're going to use him. Right, Okay,

1157
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: Kim Bill and South Dakota go ahead. Hey thinks there's

1158
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 1: Philly call up and offer and Winch was still available,

1159
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 1: would you take next years one? I think they have

1160
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: a three and if they would would cost me too much. Okay,

1161
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 1: say it again. What you're trying to do Phillies offering us?

1162
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,879
Speaker 1: Oh okay, you're saying that Winch is still there, right, yep,

1163
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 1: Winch is on the board, and you want Phillies next

1164
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 1: year's one in their three? Right? Yeah? Okay, thank you

1165
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: very much for the call. Appreciate getting next year's one

1166
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: and their third pick, their third round pick, and they

1167
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: get four. Yeah. Yeah, so you're dropping to eight. You're

1168
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: picking up next year's one. I would get in their third.

1169
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: I would totally do that. Which is the one I

1170
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: was gonna say, I think just one, just the one. Yeah,

1171
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: you're only talking about four spots. Yeah, pick seventy seven

1172
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: is the one he's talking about. Though. This would be

1173
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: kind of similar to so you pick eight thirty four,

1174
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: sixty seven, seventy seven, right, and this, and then you

1175
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: get two first round picks. Next year you get right,

1176
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 1: bring it on. This would be similar to what the

1177
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,240
Speaker 1: Bills did to get Sammy Watkins. They traded a future

1178
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: one plus a three. I believe to get up and

1179
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: do that trade. So if the Eagles want a quarterback

1180
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: that badly you want to get in front of San Francisco.

1181
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: Dallas is telling Philly on the phone, and we got

1182
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,280
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly and Trent Bulky on the phone. They're offering something.

1183
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe Philly would do that, but I would be

1184
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 1: so fascinating. You should be able to do it just

1185
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 1: for the one. You shouldn't be right if if they

1186
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: kicked it, they kicked the third. That would be even better.

1187
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: It would be even more fascinating if Wentz turns out

1188
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 1: to be something. I gotta figure out what we're gonna

1189
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: get at eight, though we do Philly wins the super

1190
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: Bowl because of a trade they made with the Cowboys,

1191
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: That's what he was talking about. Ear that would be

1192
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: can't do that else. You got to hope that you're

1193
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 1: on the beach somewhere and Puerto Rico when that hams?

1194
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: All right, Ken, who do you got Fernando in Vegas?

1195
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Fernando. Hey, guys, Hey guys. Uh So, would

1196
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: you take Ramsey and and Dixon or Elliott? And Okay,

1197
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 1: I'm going with Option B. Whatever scenario gets me Ezekiel

1198
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:56,439
Speaker 1: Elliott is the one that I want. What he said,

1199
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's and a beast. I mean, really, Xavien

1200
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: Howard a lot too. So I mean I'm getting two.

1201
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: I'm getting a really good player at a position that

1202
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: I really need, cornerback, and then my favorite player in

1203
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: this draft. Yeah. Sure, this is tough because I usually

1204
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 1: leaned towards the better player overall, which would in my mind,

1205
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: is right because you don't think Dixon, you don't think that,

1206
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: you don't think Ramsey's high enough to notify Dixon on

1207
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 1: my boards when the sixties or early seventies, something like that.

1208
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 1: It's me. He's an early third round pick. So for me, yeah, absolutely,

1209
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 1: you like Dixon a lot, I'll take number one. There

1210
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: you go, that would be me so good for you, guys.

1211
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: Ramsey and you're taking Ramsey and Dixon. Oh yeah, absolutely,

1212
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: I got a one into two. A deal. Can't go ahead?

1213
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: All right? Last one Matt and Georgia go ahead, Matt. Oh,

1214
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 1: how's it going, guys? Um I saw a tweet to

1215
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: a Tard Archer suggesting that Zeke could potentially help the

1216
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: defense more than any other picket for and he was

1217
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: comparing Murray's twenty fourteen effect by helping the defense South Filton,

1218
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: but Todd Archer replied suggestion that Romo's presidence also help

1219
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: the defense. So when you say that somebody like Zeke

1220
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: would help best Proos career, I think you certainly make

1221
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 1: that argument. Yeah, I think that's h and that is

1222
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 1: the argument for Zeke. I mean you're you're you're looking

1223
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: back two years ago with DeMarco Murray what he did

1224
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 1: for this team, and you think Zeke can come in

1225
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: and provide a similar type of impact. Not only is

1226
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: Zeke helping your quarterback and your entire offense as a whole,

1227
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 1: but uh, that creates a ripple effect, which again helps

1228
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: your quarterback, helps the defense. So I mean that's why

1229
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 1: if this team picks a Zkie Elliott, I don't think

1230
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: they would, but if they do, zero problem with it.

1231
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 1: I'll have no problem being wrong if they take Ezekiel Elliott.

1232
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: This is bombastic and like kind of over there, yam. Somebody,

1233
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: somebody said that it might have been it was Douglas.

1234
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: Douglas said that the other day Zeke is Zeke is

1235
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: too Romo and l god, I can't even say it.

1236
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 1: Zeke is Terrell Davis to Romo's Elway is what I'm

1237
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 1: trying to say. You bring in a young stud and

1238
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: you know, those Denver teams that won those Super bo

1239
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 1: didn't win him because John Elway was the end all

1240
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 1: be all, and if you got Ezekiel Elliott there, Romo

1241
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 1: doesn't need to be the end all be all either.

1242
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 1: It was good comparison, Douglas. I liked it all all right, well,

1243
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 1: very good, all right. Well that's all the time we

1244
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 1: have for the Draft show today. I want to thank

1245
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 1: Dame Burglar, David Hellman, Kent Garrison, Executive produce. I also

1246
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 1: want to thank Scott and Day for putting all the

1247
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 1: little graphics and stuff together for us today and making

1248
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 1: the show what it is. When we come back to

1249
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 1: you next week will be seven days six six day

1250
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 1: Excuse me, I can't do math six days away from

1251
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 1: actually having the NFL Draft going on. So for all

1252
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 1: my guys here, thanks everybody out there for joining us.

1253
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 1: Make sure you check out, try and find your issue

1254
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 1: of Star magazine that will be out, and make sure

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