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Speaker 2: is coming up this weekend. You have Duke, you have Carolina,

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Speaker 2: you have Kansas, you have Villanova, you have storylines, and

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Speaker 2: you know who we have Jay bleepin Phillis. How about that?

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Speaker 2: That's it really is, Mike You are you rooting for

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Speaker 2: Duke or you rooting for Carolina? Like? What do you

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Speaker 2: think the country is rooting for coach K to finish

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Speaker 2: us off win a national championship in his final year,

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Speaker 2: or are they rooting for coach Ka Fails.

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Speaker 4: I think most people are rooting for coach Ka Fail.

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Speaker 5: I personally am a UNC fan when it comes to basketball,

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Speaker 5: so I'm obviously for UNC. But I think most people

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Speaker 5: just want to see the Titan go down. I think

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Speaker 5: every time that happens, you want to see Goliath go down.

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Speaker 2: I would say, We're never gonna see this again. We're

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Speaker 2: never gonna see like this send off, this type of

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Speaker 2: sendoff again in that sport in particular, not gonna be

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Speaker 2: Bill Self. You're not gonna get this or Tom Izzo.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna get it here for coach K and then

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Speaker 2: that's it.

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Speaker 6: It's over. After that.

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Speaker 4: Whoever replaces coach K. John Shire is that the hardest job.

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Speaker 4: Could you think of a harder one?

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Speaker 7: Like?

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Speaker 4: Is it whoever replaces Saban at Alabama?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 4: Where does this rank?

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Speaker 2: Replacing Don Shula down here in Miami was very tough

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Speaker 2: replacing I mean I was gonna say replacing Joe Montana,

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Speaker 2: but Steve Young did it and won a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: From a coaching standpoint, Wow, that's a good question. Is

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Speaker 2: replacing coach K the hardest coach to replace?

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Speaker 4: See the pate while you think about it.

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Speaker 5: The Patriots, I think did it right in You don't

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Speaker 4: You don't want to be the guy after the guy.

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Speaker 4: You want to be the guy after.

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Speaker 2: That guy, right, the guy after the guy that replaced

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Speaker 2: the guy. There you go, I would say in sports,

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Speaker 2: in all of sports, the two most difficult jobs to replace,

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Speaker 2: right if you're the next guy up is what you

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Speaker 2: just said, coach K and that's going to be John

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Speaker 2: Shire or when Trey Wingo had to replace Greenie ster Boniy.

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Speaker 2: Let's get the Jay Villis, Jay, Jay, thank you for

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Speaker 2: doing this. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Sure thing.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, player, Now, if I could hear you. That would

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Speaker 7: Can you not hear me?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 6: That we're getting there?

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Speaker 2: I feel like Golic right now?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. You're acting like Jay.

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Speaker 2: Are you as bad with zoom and technology as I am? Uh?

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Speaker 7: Clearly not.

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Speaker 6: You're an asshole?

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Speaker 2: He doesn't you want to do? Jay?

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Speaker 7: Just saying you, Yeah, we had a lot of zoom

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Speaker 7: After Twitter Spaces. My major was Twitter Spaces you hear me? Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 6: All right, let's do this. Let's get Jay out of here.

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Speaker 6: It's a business.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, all that's going in?

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Speaker 2: Jay Billis is with us. The Final Four is coming

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Speaker 2: Billis loves this time of year. It's his time of year.

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Speaker 2: You dominate this time of year, don't you, j Billis?

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Speaker 7: You know Stu Gott's I like the whole basketball season,

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Speaker 7: so I don't. I don't watch football just when it,

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Speaker 4: I like the whole year.

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Speaker 2: Are you annoyed by fans like me who only start

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Speaker 7: No, I'm not annoyed by any of it, but it

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Speaker 7: what don't we cover sports? I mean, you know, you

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Speaker 7: don't say that. You don't say that the other sports.

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Speaker 7: It's kind of funny.

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Speaker 2: It is kind of funny. What's the what's the march

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Speaker 2: madness catchphrase? You are?

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Speaker 6: You're just tired of fucking saying it is a guard play?

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Speaker 2: What is it?

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Speaker 7: That's a good question. I mean a lot of it.

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Speaker 7: You know when when people say you keep talking about

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Speaker 7: mean I think I could go into football tomorrow without

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Speaker 7: having any football experience, just saying, hey, they got to

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Speaker 7: you gotta really win in the trenches in this one.

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Speaker 2: Mikey, Hey, what are you laughing at? Because I told

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Speaker 2: you before he came on, he's the best at this.

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Speaker 2: You can ask him about anything and he'll get through it.

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Speaker 2: And I had this discussion with Jay before he's been

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Speaker 2: throw me a team, right and I'll give you a

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Speaker 2: solid guard, play senior guard, play tenacious on d They've

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Speaker 6: Great coach, experience, coach.

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Speaker 2: Why are you laughing at Jay because you just throw

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Speaker 2: them a football team, Mikey, Hey, throw them out the Jets.

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Speaker 2: I bet you can break them down right now.

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Speaker 7: Well you threw remember Stu, you threw out tennis players

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Speaker 7: to me and I analyzed tennis players. Would you like

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Speaker 2: What would you like us to throw out today?

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Speaker 7: Like?

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Speaker 6: Whatever you want today?

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Speaker 7: Whatever you want, you idiot, idiot analystes in just about

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's the best. Mikey, Hey, how do

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Speaker 2: you want to do this? Go tell me, tell me

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Speaker 2: what you want to do and how you want to do.

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Speaker 4: I want him, I want him to break down the

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Speaker 4: NHL playoffs right now?

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Speaker 2: Jay, can you break down the entirety of the of

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Speaker 6: Or do you need us to, you know, throw you

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Speaker 7: Well, I don't know anything about hockey other than when

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Speaker 7: Kings games all the time when Marcel Dion and Roggi

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Speaker 7: the day. But heck, you know, the truth is, once

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Speaker 7: you pass the blue line against the Bruins, they're so

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Speaker 2: All right, Mike, I want you to make a list

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Speaker 2: of things that you want Jay Billis to fake his

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Speaker 2: way through, and at the end we'll present them to him.

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Speaker 2: Like it could be a Turkey club, it could be

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Speaker 2: tennis players, it could be golfers, like whatever you want

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Speaker 2: to do it. Jay's a big golfer. Jay. Am I

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Speaker 2: allowed to talk to you about your new project with Gary.

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Speaker 7: Or is that off limits? You can talk about anything?

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Speaker 6: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Good God?

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Speaker 6: I love you.

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Speaker 2: J Billis just rolls the way j Billis wants to roll.

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Speaker 6: You are the best.

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Speaker 2: Let's start here and I'll get to the golf stuff

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Speaker 2: that you're doing with Gary. But if I told you

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Speaker 7: I wouldn't have been shocked nor all that surprised given

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Speaker 7: They weren't playing this well, and their defense wasn't as tight,

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Speaker 7: If you only watched the NCAA tournament, and clearly you

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Speaker 7: They've been the most consistent at the highest level. And heck,

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Speaker 7: that second half they put on against Texas Tech. They

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Speaker 2: We talked to your friend Grant Hill, Dan and I

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Speaker 2: did right after that Duke loss at Cameron into our

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Speaker 2: coach K' final game.

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Speaker 6: There.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna play this sound for you, Jaye and just

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Speaker 2: let you react. Okay, this is me and Dan talking

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Speaker 2: with Grant Hill.

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Speaker 6: It's great stuff.

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Speaker 8: Dan and I were debating here, Grant, do you think

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Speaker 8: that Carolina fans, if given the choice beat coach k

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Speaker 8: final home game at Cameron Indoor or win the national Championship,

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Speaker 8: which one do you think they would choose?

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Speaker 6: They can only have one.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I mean we have the question the

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Speaker 3: you know what, they can have a great Dean Smith's

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Speaker 4: The Dean Dome. We we go for championships, so you know,

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Speaker 9: He's so angry, he's so that this is this passes

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Speaker 7: Be Kansas only only because Justin Moore of Villanova's injured.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and and it kind of goes to show what

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Speaker 2: We were debating this today. I think it's perfect, Like

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Speaker 7: Do no right, not to me, but but people like

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Speaker 7: Because it didn't perform well. It wasn't a good year

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Speaker 7: if you want to hate somebody, go ahead and hate him.

439
00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,160
Speaker 7: But but you know the facts of the matter. Are

440
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,040
Speaker 7: you know these programs have been so good for so long,

441
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 7: Like Hubert Davis is On is one of my closest friends,

442
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 7: and I'd walk through fire for that guy. There's not

443
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,199
Speaker 7: a better person on the planet. And I feel the

444
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 7: same way about Coach k Like, how could you not

445
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,359
Speaker 7: like those guys? It's impossible if you know them or

446
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:20,119
Speaker 7: pay any attention.

447
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,040
Speaker 2: Mikey, I'm going to ask the question that I asked

448
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 2: guests sometimes. Okay, it's a weird game, Jay, that I've created,

449
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 2: but it's a game where if you give the best story, you.

450
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 6: Win ten million dollars.

451
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 2: So it's like you JJ Reddick. I'll throw in Mark Gallery, Okay,

452
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,120
Speaker 2: old school, that's when I was growing up, And I'll

453
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 2: throw in woj Okay and you all have to give

454
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,360
Speaker 2: your best coach k story. The best story wins ten

455
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 2: million dollars. What story is j Bill is going with?

456
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,440
Speaker 7: Probably like the stuff he used to do that he

457
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 7: thought would really motivate us. And we had met his mother,

458
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,920
Speaker 7: Emily Shyzewski, who he would tell us stories about her,

459
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:11,639
Speaker 7: that she only had one dress and she was walking

460
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,160
Speaker 7: through the park one day in Chicago and she got

461
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 7: mugged and she wouldn't let go of her purse. And

462
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 7: these guys tried to steal her purse from her and

463
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 7: she wouldn't let go of it. And then and then

464
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 7: tells us and there was nothing in her purse and

465
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 7: then says that some of you guys have a hard

466
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 7: time holding on to a rebound. And you know, we

467
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 7: got the story, we understood it. But after he left

468
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 7: the room, we were like, going, how much is he

469
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 7: making now? And she's only got one dress? Like I

470
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 7: can't get her another dress, and you know, there's nothing

471
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 7: in the purse, and you know, maybe give her something

472
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 7: put in that purse. But she was she was a

473
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 7: very sweet lady. But and then one of the guys said,

474
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 7: you know, we got a couple of scholarships available, maybe

475
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,439
Speaker 7: she could playgeint some of those rebounds he's talking about it.

476
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 7: We definitely had a good The other one one of

477
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 7: my favorites. And this is really stupid, but Coach K

478
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 7: I like stupid.

479
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 6: It's called stupidity, Jay, that's fine.

480
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 7: Coach K, being from Chicago, says yo all the time,

481
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 7: like Yo, get over here, Yo, do this, yo Yo

482
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,959
Speaker 7: when he tries to get your attention. Yo. And we

483
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,679
Speaker 7: played a team that had a guy on their roster

484
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 7: named Yo. So in the scouting report his name was

485
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 7: y O h. I can't remember his first name. But

486
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,199
Speaker 7: after we went through the scouting report and we're all

487
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:32,880
Speaker 7: look at each other, going, there's a guy named Yo

488
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 7: on this team. So we went out in practice and

489
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 7: throughout the practice, every time the guy that was on

490
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 7: our team that was, you know, supposed to be Yoo,

491
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,360
Speaker 7: we would like, you know, we were supposed to talk

492
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 7: on defense and communicate, and we would always point to

493
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 7: the ball, go yo, yo Yo. And Coach K finally

494
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 7: caught on and he says, hey, I hear you guys

495
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 7: saying yo, Like that's real funny. We'll see how funny

496
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 7: it is when they're kicking your rass tomorrow and so

497
00:23:58,640 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 7: he kind of caught us doing it.

498
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 2: What was the score the next day?

499
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 6: Did you guys we beat that?

500
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 7: We beat the hell but nobody said nobody said yo.

501
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 7: We didn't have the balls to say yo during the game.

502
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,239
Speaker 2: Jay, when you played for him, because he was he

503
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 2: was just getting started when you were playing get too,

504
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 2: did you think he would turn into this to what

505
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 2: it is today?

506
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 7: Well? I couldn't. I couldn't fathom this kind of thing.

507
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 7: You know, you weren't thinking when you were twenty two

508
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 7: years old that your coach was going to be there

509
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 7: for forty years and established this kind of record. I mean,

510
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 7: there are a lot of people that, a lot of

511
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 7: Duke fans that thought when when our group left, that

512
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,120
Speaker 7: that might be the best team Duke would ever have.

513
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 7: You know, we won thirty seven games that last year

514
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 7: and we're number one all that stuff, and who knew

515
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 7: he was going to have better teams from there and

516
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 7: win five titles with a chance for six and all

517
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 7: that stuff. No, the answer is no. But I knew

518
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 7: he was great, and I knew he was the right

519
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 7: one for me, and never hesitated once I made the

520
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 7: decision to play for him. But you know, I mean,

521
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 7: I don't know who thought that way, that that he

522
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 7: could be you know, he would be the equal that

523
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 7: wouldn't when he was done that that didn't cross my mind,

524
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 7: right become the greatest coach in the history of the sport,

525
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 7: maybe the greatest coach in the history of sports.

526
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 2: Jay, I'm wondering here, Dan and I talk about this

527
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 2: often Mount Rushmore of annoying duke players. Who would you

528
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 2: put on the Mount Rushmore of annoying duke players?

529
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 6: You're gonna put yourself there, aren't you?

530
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 2: No?

531
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 7: I was. I was beloved by opponents because they could

532
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 7: They could kick my ass so easily. I would I

533
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 7: would put that's a good question. Reddick could have to

534
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 7: go up there because he was so damn good and so.

535
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 4: Like.

536
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 7: He had a cockiness to him that I really appreciated.

537
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 7: But I can understand why other people got tired of

538
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 7: watching him make shots and smile. Ladner would have to

539
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 7: be up there, just because, you know, if there's ever

540
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 7: been guy that had everything, it was him. Good player,

541
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 7: He's you know, one of People Magazine's fifty most beautiful

542
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 7: when he was in college. I mean, who gets that,

543
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 7: but not.

544
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 2: As good looking as you, j Billis I mean come

545
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 2: up No, I.

546
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 7: Mean let's yeah, let's be we have to stay realistic

547
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 7: that just because he makes fifty most beautiful people I

548
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 7: was in a different category. Who else would be up there?

549
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 2: WOJ Chris Collins, Yeah, Chris Collins, Yeah, Grayson Allen would

550
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 2: go up there.

551
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 7: It sounds like after his interview with you, Grant Hill

552
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 7: would have to go up there.

553
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 2: Yes, I agree, good, I mean.

554
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 7: Grant spewing fire? No, yeah, you'd go with the usual

555
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 7: suspects in that. I never really understood all that stuff.

556
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 2: Sure of the.

557
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 7: Duke hatred, like I understand not wanting to see him

558
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 7: win because they win so much. That's just that's just

559
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 7: what fans do. But and it was always you know,

560
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 7: a certain type of du guy that that that took

561
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 7: the brunt of it. And it started with Latner like

562
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 7: Laterner was the first one. Maybe Danny Ferry a little

563
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 7: bit took some of that heat, but but it really

564
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 7: started with Laner.

565
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 2: Do you worry at all about the pressure that's going

566
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 2: to be on John Shire starting next year? Like? Is that?

567
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,199
Speaker 2: Should should he be worried about it? Should anyone be

568
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 2: worried about it? It seems like an impossible spot for

569
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 2: John Shire.

570
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 7: I mean, it's going to be it's going to be

571
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 7: difficult because you know, coach k is so embedded in

572
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 7: the program, and it's kind of like when you go

573
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 7: to Indiana, it's it's hard to walk into Assembly Hall

574
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 7: without thinking about Bob Knight or walking to the Polly

575
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 7: Pavilion without John wouldn't be in front center. But you know,

576
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 7: he's very well suited to do a great job with this.

577
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 7: But I do think it's going to be the hardest

578
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 7: act to follow in sports, and early on any change

579
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 7: that he makes, he'll be questioned, just like Hubert Davis

580
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 7: this year went to a different offense and you know

581
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 7: Carolina people were like, wait a minute, what is this?

582
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 7: But they seem to be okay with it now. So

583
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 7: if he wins, and I think he will, uh, you know,

584
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 7: it'll it'll he'll establish his own his own way of

585
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 7: doing things and people will respond to it. But it's

586
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 7: it's true of everything, you know, if you if you

587
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,719
Speaker 7: don't win, like whether you follow Bear Bryant or John Wooden,

588
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 7: Like Geene Bartow went to the final four of the

589
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 7: year after Wooden retired, and everybody was pissed. I grew

590
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 7: up out there and you had to listen to it

591
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 7: all the time that nothing, nothing that could be done,

592
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 7: would have would have satisfied people. And that went on

593
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 7: for a long time. So I don't know that it'll

594
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 7: be quite like The problem is for John is Coach

595
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 7: K has been there forty two years, and all of

596
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 7: it's been on television and now social media. So it's

597
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 7: actually harder to follow Coach K than it would have

598
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 7: been to follow Wooden because you know, back then when

599
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 7: you said game of the week that was literal, there

600
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 7: was only one game on a week that was it.

601
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 7: Now now everything's on, so you know, you're Coach K

602
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 7: has been, you know, kind of front and center in

603
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 7: the game for for all these years. It's it's hard

604
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 7: to shut that faucet off and and for people to

605
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 7: just move forward.

606
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 2: We're going to get to you faking your way through

607
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 2: some things. Mikey has sent me a list. We'll do

608
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 2: it in a second. We're going to play a quick

609
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 2: game of Jay or Nay, and then we'll get you

610
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 2: out here because you're busy and you have a lot

611
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 2: of things to do, better things to do than horsing

612
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 2: around with us, But would you be honored? Billy gill

613
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 2: is the name of one of our producers. Now he's

614
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 2: not here, he's an important meeting, He apologizes. We want

615
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 2: to create a new character next year called Jay Gillis.

616
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 6: Would you be honored if we did that? I think

617
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 6: you would, right would?

618
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 7: I would absolutely be honored. Anything anything that makes fun

619
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 7: of me, I'm all in on.

620
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 2: Well. I mean, what we're gonna do is we're gonna

621
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 2: position him as Jay Gillis college basketball expert, and much

622
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 2: like me, he'll fake his way through all these teams

623
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 2: as we get closed in the march.

624
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 7: Good as long as as long as Jay Gillis does

625
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 7: it with the appropriate smugness that I would bring to

626
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 7: the role, I'm good with it.

627
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 2: I promise you we will, ok. I won't let you down,

628
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 2: all right? Quick game of jay or nay?

629
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 6: Okay, jay or nae.

630
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 2: Slapping your hands on the floor when playing defense, jay

631
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 2: or nay.

632
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 7: I mean we started that when I was in college.

633
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 7: We were the first team to slap the floor. But

634
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 7: we did it judiciously, and I think they do it now,

635
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 7: but I would I would probably say say nay to

636
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 7: it because it often fires up the opponent to score

637
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 7: more than if you don't do it right.

638
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 2: That's totally fair. How about slubs like me thinking he

639
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 2: could hit a three in an NBA game, Jay or Nay?

640
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 7: That would be nay too. Now could you hit Could

641
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 7: you hit one if nobody guarded you and it was

642
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 7: at the end of a quarter or something, of course,

643
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 7: but that would be the equivalent of of me hitting

644
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 7: a bunker shot in a in a pro tournament. You know,

645
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 7: Could I do it? Yeah, but I'd probably throw up

646
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 7: art of myself, you know, nine times out of ten.

647
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you this, Jay, like Riley Opelka is

648
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 2: a professional tennis player, and i'd oh, Dad, I could

649
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 2: return at least one of his serves. He gave me

650
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 2: fifteen serves at one hundred and forty miles per hour.

651
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 6: And I returned one. Jay return and I rallied.

652
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 2: I won the point. How I that?

653
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 7: I mean, you know, it just goes to show you

654
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 7: can do anything once. But I would it depends on

655
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 7: who you had guarding you in the NBA game. I

656
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 7: wouldn't you know, if you got enough shots off, you

657
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 7: could hit ones forty eight minute game.

658
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, I think just with the right, you know,

659
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 2: supporting cast like Lebron Wade, Bosh, everyone's focused on them.

660
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,479
Speaker 2: They throw it over to me for three. I think

661
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 2: I get it one Jay, That's all I'm saying.

662
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 7: And with the right opponent, with five guys that don't

663
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 7: give a shit, you could probably score.

664
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 2: Thank you. Yes, you're right, Cinderella in the final four,

665
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 2: Jay or Nay.

666
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 7: I'd go Jay on that. I like seeing it. You know,

667
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 7: we had it with Butler in twenty ten and twenty eleven.

668
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 7: VCU got in there, Loyala, Chicago got in there. I

669
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 7: love it. But but the reason I love it is

670
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 7: because it's not predetermined, so uh, it just it just

671
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 7: happens organically through the way the tournament works. So yeah,

672
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 7: it's great, but it's it's the same thing as seeing, uh,

673
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 7: you know, somebody you haven't heard of contended a golf

674
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 7: tournament or work their way to the Wimbledon final. You know,

675
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 7: you have these one offs that do extraordinarily well, but

676
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 7: you know the ones we talk about are the ones

677
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 7: who do it consistently.

678
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 2: Peeing in the pool, Jay or Nay, I'm.

679
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 7: A huge kna on that, really, Yeah, I'm that Wow.

680
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 6: Okay, Well, don't have me over.

681
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 2: Don't let me swim in your pool?

682
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, will shower anything anything like that. I'm a huge

683
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 7: na Mikey.

684
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 2: You're surprised by that, right, A little.

685
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,719
Speaker 4: Bit, a little. It's all pipes.

686
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 2: I know. It's such an easy spot too. You're in

687
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: the pool, you already there, went in Rome, and you

688
00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 2: just let it go, went in Rome. It's just there.

689
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 2: It's a big toilet for you. Mark Emerate, Yay, this

690
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 2: is bad, Mark Emert Jay or nay.

691
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 7: On what I mean?

692
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 2: In what just in general?

693
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 7: I mean, the answer would be the answer would be nay,

694
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 7: because he's been an ineffective leader. But but you'd have

695
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 7: you have to give him an enormous amount of credit

696
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 7: for surviving this long given what we've seen on a

697
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 7: performance level.

698
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 2: Throwing a golf club in anger, Jay or nay, it

699
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 2: would be nay.

700
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 7: But I've done it, and I actually I actually did

701
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 7: it in a with some friends of mine, playing at

702
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 7: this place called Carolina Golf Club where he used to

703
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 7: be a member. On the ninth toll, which is really long.

704
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 7: Part three, I drilled a three iron and hit it

705
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 7: over the green and and it went across a little

706
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 7: road to the clubhouse. So that's out of bounds, so

707
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 7: I had to retee it, and I flushed it again

708
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 7: and did the exact same thing twice, and so I

709
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 7: got pissed and I hurled that three hundred got stuck

710
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 7: in a tree right next to the T box and

711
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 7: I couldn't get it down, And right across the road

712
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 7: was the clubhouse bar, so all my friends were sitting

713
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,720
Speaker 7: in the bar watching and as soon as we moved

714
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 7: on from the hole, they all ran out of the

715
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 7: bar and tried to retrieve it hold it hostage on me.

716
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 7: So that that was one of the last times I

717
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 7: tossed the club.

718
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 2: People calling in watching TV to report potential rule violations

719
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 2: in golf Jay or Nate. Thank you, let's move on

720
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 2: to the next one. Thank you.

721
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 7: They can shove it because I'm totally with you.

722
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so annoying, right golfer decked out in all

723
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 2: the best gear, but it's terrible at golf jay or.

724
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 7: Nay Nay the parking lot pro I mean, especially especially

725
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 7: the guys who were wearing all orange like Rickey Fowler

726
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 7: or dressed you know, exactly like a pro.

727
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 4: Would you know?

728
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 7: I always want to look presentable, but but don't want

729
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 7: to overdo it. I know, I know who I am,

730
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 7: and I don't wanna, don't want to act like uh

731
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 7: like the parking lot pro.

732
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 2: The golfer who on the fourth hole he's playing terrible

733
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 2: and turns to you and says, I was hitting him

734
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 2: so good on the range.

735
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 7: Jay or Nay, that's Jay.

736
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 2: Okay, you've done it.

737
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 7: I probably have done it. But guys that can hold

738
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 7: it together when they're when they're playing poorly and still

739
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 7: have a pleasant round, those are those are the true heroes.

740
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 2: More than five practice swings before each golf shot, Jay

741
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 2: may even gonna be If you're gonna be bad, be

742
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 2: bad quick, right.

743
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 7: Even one like Mike Breen, who you know is a

744
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 7: is a very good golfer. And we've played several times

745
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 7: and Mike takes a full practice swing before every shot,

746
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 7: just one, but it is identical to his normal swing.

747
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 7: And we're playing one time at my club and one

748
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 7: of the caddies started walking during his practice wing, like

749
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 7: walking forward, and I'm like, you just walk you know,

750
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 7: you just watch sixteen holes of this and it fooled you,

751
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 7: Like how he faked you out? Yeah, one practice wing,

752
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 7: go for it?

753
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 2: Two?

754
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,720
Speaker 7: Three? No, No, I mean, we're not. And the guy

755
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 7: that walks on a twenty five foot putt walks to

756
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 7: the other side of the putt no.

757
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly, trying to get it on the other

758
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 2: side of the right.

759
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 7: If you're gonna do that, you'd better make it right

760
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 7: because we got other things to do. Oh that is

761
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 7: so great? Is bringing good at golf?

762
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 2: Is he good golf?

763
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,919
Speaker 7: Really good? And he's still a pleasant golfer and and

764
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 7: what he does is not in any way a problem.

765
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 7: I'm not suggesting that, but but I thought it was

766
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 7: really funny that that he faked the caddy out. You know,

767
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 7: this is this old grizzled veteran, and I started, I

768
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 7: started giving him all kinds of crap about it. I'm like,

769
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 7: he faked you out on that, like you're supposed to

770
00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 7: pay attention through the whole round.

771
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 6: And that was a good one.

772
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 2: So you were out in Tahoe last year playing at

773
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 2: the tournament. I was out there as well. We had

774
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 2: an awkward moment. I apologized to you for that because

775
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 2: there was a lot going on there. Aaron Rodgers was

776
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 2: hugging me. I thought he was vaccinated. He was. There

777
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 2: was a whole bunch of stuff cut. There was a

778
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 2: he pulled me in really tight. I'm very upset with him.

779
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 2: I said them a text saying I thought you were vaccinated.

780
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 2: But it doesn't matter. Well, how do we get Mike

781
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 2: Breen out to Tahoe this year? Let's do that.

782
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 7: He should play because he's not good enough to contend

783
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 7: in that thing. That's the most nervous I've ever been

784
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 7: at a sporting event?

785
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:34,760
Speaker 2: Is that really?

786
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 4: Yeah?

787
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 7: Last year was the best I've played. I mean, I've

788
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 7: kind of gotten better playing that golf course. I gotten better,

789
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 7: period because I've worked on it. But you know, when

790
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 7: you're standing over a little three footer and you got

791
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 7: cameras on you, or you might have cameras on you

792
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 7: and you got a whole bunch of people watching, it's

793
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 7: a different, different deal because I'm just a you know,

794
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 7: I love to play, but I don't. I'm not fooling

795
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 7: myself into being a tournament and you got to put

796
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 7: everything out. It's a different deal, right.

797
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 2: I was really nervous as well. There's a gallery there

798
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 2: I had. I was playing with Marty Fish the raining

799
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 2: chap Kelsey was screaming shit at me. Like the whole

800
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 2: thing made me nervous, but it's such a fun event.

801
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 6: It's such a great evolve.

802
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 7: It is the best, and the people are so great.

803
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 7: I mean, my goal on the first t shot is

804
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 7: do not kill a spectator. If I don't send a spectator,

805
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:29,240
Speaker 7: because I almost I played in Jim Calhoun's charity tournament

806
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 7: once and you know, I played pretty well and we

807
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 7: got to a par five. It was a scrambled tournament.

808
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 7: So my playing partners I had hit a good drive

809
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 7: on this par five. It's a blind second shot, and

810
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 7: the guy said, hey, we'll lay up and you go

811
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 7: for it. Guy goes to the top of the ridge, says,

812
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 7: green's wide open. I drilled the three wood. It's probably

813
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 7: the best to this day, the best three wood I've

814
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 7: ever hit. And we get up there and there's a

815
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 7: guy lying on the green and I had pegged somebody

816
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 7: on the green with that three wood, and meanwhile, my

817
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 7: playing partner, the guy's down on the you know, as

818
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 7: far as I knew, dead, and my planing partners are going, hey,

819
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:05,919
Speaker 7: can we get a ruling on this? Do we clean

820
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 7: the blood off the ball? You know, we got an

821
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 7: eagle butt here, and and I'm thinking that this damn

822
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 7: thing is going to be a memorial tournament the next year,

823
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,439
Speaker 7: and luckily it turned out he was on the next

824
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 7: tea box. He got a phone call and he didn't

825
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 7: want to bother his playing partner, so he started walking

826
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 7: while he's on the phone. Just walked across the green

827
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 7: and took a titleist in the chest.

828
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 2: I'll tell you a quick funny story. First, t Ray

829
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 2: Romano hit one of our producers, Chris Cody, right in

830
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 2: the leg, and it turns out they were related. We

831
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 2: had Ray on the show that related.

832
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 6: Ray is Chris's uncle.

833
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 7: That is too good.

834
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 2: It's great, isn't it? Jay? How about me and you

835
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 2: around the golf Tahoe this year? Okay, does that all

836
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 2: come in? You're in?

837
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 7: I'm all right.

838
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 2: This is fantastic. Mikey. By the way, speaking up golf,

839
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,320
Speaker 2: you have a new podcast network out with Gary Williams.

840
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 2: I'm going to appear on Gary show I think next

841
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 2: week headed into the Masters. Tell us about that. What

842
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 2: are you guys doing.

843
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 7: It's a new platform called five Clubs and and Gary, uh,

844
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 7: you know, has a podcast. There are others that do,

845
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 7: and I'm one of them, and mine is just uh,

846
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 7: you know, I had Andy roddick On as the first guest,

847
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 7: who's a good friend. I play a lot of golf

848
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 7: with him. And it's just a bunch of guys. You know,

849
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 7: it's just going to be people who love golf and

850
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 7: not necessarily you know, pro golfers, pro golf types, but uh,

851
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 7: you know, hopefully people that others would know that just

852
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,720
Speaker 7: enjoy playing and enjoy talking about it because I I can't.

853
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 7: I can't play enough. If I could play every day,

854
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 7: I would, and uh, every day that the sun's out,

855
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,280
Speaker 7: I go to the club if I've got the opportunity

856
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 7: to do it.

857
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 2: The second we're done here, I'm going to play jet

858
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 2: just so you know.

859
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 7: I'm jealous. I mean, as soon as the buzzer goes

860
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 7: off in New Orleans, I got a tea time the

861
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 7: next day.

862
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 2: How do you think this thing is going to play out?

863
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: How do you you basically want Coach? I know you

864
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 2: got to be you know, neutral here because you're a

865
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 2: media member, but you what to do?

866
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 6: You love, Coach k.

867
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 2: How do you see this thing playing out?

868
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:00,439
Speaker 4: Well?

869
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 7: I mean I don't. I don't go into the games

870
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 7: wanting anything. I've been doing this for too long to

871
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 7: have a rooting interest in these games. Even though you

872
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 7: have relationships with all these different people, The games are

873
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 7: going to play out the way they play out, and

874
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 7: we'll just call it like it like it is. But

875
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 7: you know, it's it's great that he that he's there.

876
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 7: It's great that Hubert Davis is there for his first time,

877
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,479
Speaker 7: and Jay Wright's got a chance for three and Bill

878
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 7: Selts got a chance for his second and all these players.

879
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 7: I think Duke is the best team right now and

880
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 7: playing the best of the most talented, and they're playing

881
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 7: the best. So my sense is that if you go

882
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 7: by how the teams are playing right now, at least

883
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 7: through the tournament, that that Duke's got an edge over

884
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 7: North Carolina. But who knows, They've had five days. You know,

885
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 7: both teams are gonna have five days to prepare, and

886
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 7: because Justin Moore is out, I give an edge to Kansas.

887
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 7: But you know, if you get whoever it is, these

888
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 7: four programs, you're going to have a representative championship game

889
00:41:56,239 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 7: and it'll be it'll be historic and coach k being

890
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 7: in his last go round. Uh, you know that adds

891
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 7: yet another layer to a multi layered event.

892
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 2: Are you going to the games?

893
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 7: Oh, yeah, I'm calling the games. Excuse me, I'm calling

894
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 7: the games for ESPN International. So I've been brushing up

895
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 7: on my different languages and trying to say Manda, man

896
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 7: and lot being to make sure.

897
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 2: That can I hear you do it.

898
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 7: I'm still brushing up, but I uh, you know, my

899
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,919
Speaker 7: NIL deals in Sweden are being being hashed out right now.

900
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 2: So great. By the way, if you need I'll volunteer.

901
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 2: If you need someone to help spot whatever, I'm here

902
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 2: for you, Jay, Like, yeah, I'd love to go to

903
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 2: the games.

904
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 7: Well, the crazy part about doing ESPN International is it's

905
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 7: it's kind of like doing radio. So they take the

906
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 7: CBS feed and then where the where the voices of it,

907
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 7: so you don't ever see us on camera. But they're

908
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 7: going to make me wear a suit to the game anyway,

909
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 7: which I think is a travesty. I should be there

910
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 7: in a T shirt and a pair of flip flops.

911
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 7: But yeah, yes, wants me, wants me to look professional.

912
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 2: So Mikey, go ahead, just throw something out to him. Okay,

913
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 2: let him fake his way through it, and let's see

914
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 2: how good he is that this. And I am telling you,

915
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 2: I promise you there is no one better at it

916
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 2: than j billis a gay.

917
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:13,720
Speaker 4: Go ahead, Mikey.

918
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 7: The perfect Ruben, Well, the perfect Ruben starts with the bread,

919
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 7: and a lot of people would go with Rye. It

920
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 7: has to be buttered and put on a flat top

921
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 7: at the exact right temperature for it to get a

922
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 7: little bit of crunch but not too much. And the

923
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:36,919
Speaker 7: sauer kraut has to be appropriately layered. So that's really

924
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 7: the key. People think it's People think it's the it's

925
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 7: the meat, but it's not. It's really the sour kraut

926
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 7: and the bread that makes the perfect Ruben. And then

927
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 7: you know, look, the Russian dressing is important, and I know,

928
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 7: given geopolitical events right now, Russian dressing might be a problem.

929
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 7: But I think, I think that those are the three things.

930
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 7: The bread, the Russian dressing can't be too much, but

931
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 7: you have to have enough, and so so layering that

932
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 7: the appropriate way with the sour crowd makes the perfect Ruben.

933
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 7: And I always, I always expect there to be a

934
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 7: toothpick to hold it together.

935
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 2: Right, when's the last time you had a ruben.

936
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 7: I've never had a ruben.

937
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 6: I don't like them.

938
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 4: I found myself taking notes seriously.

939
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 7: I don't like sour krout at all.

940
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 2: That makes me eat Two more will get you out

941
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 2: of here, I promise, quickly.

942
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 4: Go ahead, Mike, Fairfield men's lacross defense. My nephew's on

943
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 4: the teeth.

944
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 7: Okay, when when you play with that kind of physicality

945
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,959
Speaker 7: that the Stags play with, especially in the back line,

946
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 7: their defensemen and their long their long stick guys are phenomenal.

947
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 7: But you're going to get your teeth rattled by the

948
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 7: Stags if your midfielders try to take it all the way. Uh,

949
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 7: it's going to be body to body. And they run

950
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 7: great uh, great screening action and they can they can

951
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 7: body that up as well. I think Fairfield's Fairfield's defense

952
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 7: from the midfield all the way to the goalie is

953
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 7: about as good as it gets in men's lacrosse.

954
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 6: So good, last one, Let him go, last one.

955
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 7: The best uber driver, The best uber driver I ever

956
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 7: had was a ninety year old woman who was a

957
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 7: great grandmother and was saving up to pay for one

958
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 7: of her great grandchildren to pay for a baboon heart

959
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 7: surgery event. And uh, and we couldn't. It was really sad.

960
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 7: We couldn't figure out the tip thing on the uber apph.

961
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 7: So I'm not sure what what actually happened with the

962
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 7: baboon heart. It probably couldn't be picked up because she

963
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,399
Speaker 7: couldn't afford it based upon the failure of the app

964
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 7: to leave the appropriate tip. But but I did give

965
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 7: her five stars, so if she lives much long longer

966
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 7: that that's gonna help her pick you getting rides.

967
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 2: J Billis you are the absolute best. I look forward

968
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 2: to seeing you in Tahoe again. We'll play some golf.

969
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to that. Have fun this weekend, man.

970
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 2: I know you're calling it in a different language, but

971
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 2: enjoy it for what it is to see a coach

972
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 2: that you love, a man that you love.

973
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 6: Hopefully get this done in the right way.

974
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I'm looking forward dest playing golf. I haven't

975
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 7: played with somebody with that plays pink golf balls in

976
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 7: a long time, so that'll be fun.

977
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 2: I'm not very good, Jay, you'll have to spot me

978
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 2: like at least a shot a hold.

979
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 7: Again, what did you finish at this year?

980
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 2: I only played that first round, the practice round. This year,

981
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 2: I am invited to play in the entire tournament, so

982
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 2: we'll see that practice round. We were playing best ball

983
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 2: as well, so I didn't really I did play one

984
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 2: full round. I think I played with Robbie Gold. I

985
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 2: played one full round the day before I shot an

986
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 2: eighty four.

987
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, but they played the stable for a thing. So

988
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 7: I think it's one point for a par, zero for

989
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 7: a a bogie, and then minus two for a double,

990
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 7: which is really concerning because you can move backwards in

991
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 7: a hurry, and I think you get three points for

992
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 7: a birdie. I didn't have to mess with. I had

993
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 7: a couple eagle puts, but not very many. It didn't

994
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 7: make them. But that's the that's the problem. You know,

995
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,959
Speaker 7: you're judged by that number, and I did much better

996
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 7: this year. That is the best. That is the most

997
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 7: fun I've ever had playing golf.

998
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 6: In that thing.

999
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 2: It's the absolute best. Romo was taking it a little

1000
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 2: bit too seriously though, wasn't he. I mean, come on,

1001
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 2: we all the top guys.

1002
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 7: Do you know that the talk about parking lot pros.

1003
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,280
Speaker 7: You know they think that that people, you know, people

1004
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 7: really care how we do. They don't.

1005
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 2: Well, but Jay, on that course, what I'm telling you is,

1006
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 2: I think two days before we played the round that

1007
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 2: you were in as well, right before the tournament started

1008
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 2: I did play a full round on that course, and

1009
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 2: I was playing, you know, I was playing normal rules.

1010
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 2: Robbie Gold just happened to be there because we're in

1011
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,399
Speaker 2: top and that's what happens. I did shoot in eighty four,

1012
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 2: So what did you like? What did you shoot eighteen

1013
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 2: holes on that course. I'm trying to gauge if I'm

1014
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 2: a better golfer than you.

1015
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 7: That's what I don't I don't remember. I don't remember

1016
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 7: the exact scores. I shot around eighty each day, Jesus,

1017
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 7: but I don't like, I don't remember, you know, was

1018
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 7: it seventy nine or eighty one or whatever. I wound

1019
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 7: up with twenty I think nineteen or twenty points after doubling.

1020
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 7: H I doubled like the seventh hole and then got

1021
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 7: lucky and birdied the eighth. We were finishing on nine,

1022
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 7: the last round, and then I hit I hit the

1023
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 7: longest drive of my life on nine. That's the one

1024
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 7: that that's on the on the water there part four

1025
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 7: and I had like a sand wedge in and made five.

1026
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 7: Like it was the worst feeling of you know, when

1027
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 7: I when I hold out. I was playing with Brian

1028
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 7: Kelly and Brett Saberhagen and Brett Saberagen. I played high

1029
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 7: school basketball against if you can believe that, and I uh,

1030
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 7: and when I put it in for the five, I

1031
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 7: was like, great drive, though, Wasn't that a great drive?

1032
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 7: Like I could have hit that bounds and made five?

1033
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 2: And uh. If we were played Jay Orny, I'd sayny

1034
00:48:58,800 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 2: On that you can't do that.

1035
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 7: It's definitely a name that was definitely.

1036
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,720
Speaker 2: It was a waste of a drive, though, I understand

1037
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 2: the waste of your best drive, right, you want to

1038
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 2: pour that or that not a bogie.

1039
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 7: Right exactly exactly, exactly wiped away with zero, exactly what

1040
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 7: I deserve.

1041
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 2: Jay. We appreciate it your time during a very busy

1042
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 2: time for you.

1043
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 6: Enjoy the games this weekend.

1044
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 1: Man.

1045
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,760
Speaker 2: I will be in touch and hopefully we'll get around

1046
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 2: you before we go to tahe little practice round me

1047
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 2: and billis how about that?

1048
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 7: Let's do it.

1049
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 2: I'm in Jay, before you leave real quick. Your podcast

1050
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 2: Five Clubs. Tell the people again where.

1051
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 6: They can find it.

1052
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 7: You can find it on all your outlets, whether it's Spotify,

1053
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 7: wherever you get your podcasts, you can you could find

1054
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 7: the Five Clubs platform. And my my podcast doesn't even

1055
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 7: have a name, that's how shitty it is. But yeah,

1056
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 7: it's just called the Five Clubs Podcast.

1057
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 2: Would you like us to come up with a name

1058
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 2: for you?

1059
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, yeah, that'd be great. I don't I

1060
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 7: don't know if we're gonna name it because every all

1061
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 7: the good golf terms are taking you can't you know,

1062
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 7: you can't call it the night Hole or the nineteen

1063
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 7: Hole with Jay Billis or Dormy with Jay Billis, or

1064
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 7: you or for play right? Yeah, another double another at the.

1065
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 2: Name of my podcast. Don't steal it, Jay, Thank you

1066
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 2: so much. Enjoy the games man. We'll talk soon and

1067
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 2: UH and I look forward to uh to see coach

1068
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 2: k get this done.

1069
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 6: I think he's going to get a dune Jay.

1070
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, it could be.

1071
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 7: It would be a great story.