1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Ron Andanian. You're looking for a repair shop, you're looking 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: for a way to Yeah, how much is this going 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: to cost? How much is that going to cost? And 4 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: the mistake is you're putting emphasis on how much, not 5 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,079 Speaker 1: how right and how good of a shop is this? 6 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: Big cars like one that ronvol yards, they don't make 7 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: a lock down no more. Get let's heavy car, Yeah, car, 8 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: the car Doctor. It sounds like it's the antenna in 9 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: the back window from what you're telling me. But doing 10 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: it that way using the alligator clip, the wire and 11 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 1: the cable lead that will help you narrow with them. 12 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of Ron Andanian the Car Doctor, 13 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: since this is where car owners the world overturned to 14 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics 15 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: giving you a B signal, pick up the phone and 16 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: call in. The garage doors are open, but I am 17 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: here to take your calls at and now he running. 18 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 1: Do you ever wonder when fixing a card doesn't require parts, Well, 19 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: it happens quite often. And I've got a story for 20 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: you today that'll just you'll just scratch your head and go, huh. 21 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: Had Volkswagen Jetta in the shop this week, and the 22 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: customer complaint was odd. It was hard to pin down. 23 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: It was described to me as a low power stumble 24 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: or hesitation. The car didn't pick up, is the way 25 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 1: she described it to me. I looked at the car, 26 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: and you know, it was interesting, right. It's a case 27 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: of you have to prove what's bad. And the only 28 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: way I could prove what was bad on this car 29 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: was by looking at what's good. Because there were no 30 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: fault code. There was barely a symptom. If you got 31 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: in this Volkswagen Jetta with a hundred ninety thousand miles 32 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: on it, that's right, a hundred and eighty eight thousand 33 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: fifty two. I call it a buck ninety, all right, 34 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: you'd sit there and they'd say, well, is it bad 35 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: or isn't it? So I went out and I did 36 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: a road test, and you know, I did some preliminary, 37 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: the usual preliminary, you know, no fault diagnosis, looking for codes, 38 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: no codes. You know, things looked okay under the hood, 39 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,839 Speaker 1: nothing obvious. I gotta take a road test. Road test 40 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: is part of this. And I drove it, and I 41 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: drove it the way I drive a car. I tend 42 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: to have a little bit of a heavy foot sometimes 43 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: and I didn't notice anything. And then I said, you know, 44 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: let me go into you know, little old lady mode 45 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: for lack of my way to put it. And you know, 46 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,839 Speaker 1: I noticed that this is a six speed trans there's 47 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 1: a d s G six speed, and it was already 48 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: in fifth gear under mild acceleration at thirty four miles 49 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: an hour. It went boom boom boo boo boo. But 50 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 1: shift shift, shift, shift, shift, shift shift, watching the tech, well, 51 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: that can't be right, I said to myself, I said, 52 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: that's crazy. I said, we're in fifth gear at thirty 53 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: four miles an hour, and then by thirty nine miles 54 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: an hour it was in sixth gear. And then if 55 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: you step on the gas to go, yeah, then I 56 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: got the hesitation rolled it down to twenty miles an hour. 57 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 1: It was it was in fourth I believe at that point, 58 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: and it would be the equivalent of driving a manual transmission. 59 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: And and you know, running it down low and gear. 60 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: Take a manual trans car and don't shift it and 61 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: drive it at twenty miles an hour, what happens when 62 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: you go to accelerate? Wa right, So I said, gee, 63 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: this is a this is a direct shift gear gearbox. 64 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: Let me shift this normally, or let me shift this manually. 65 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: And I took it and I I moved it over 66 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: to the right, and then I manually shifted it and 67 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: I didn't, I didn't, you know, kill it. I rounded 68 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: out to about three thousand rpm and the car shifted great. 69 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: The car had tons of power, and all of a sudden, 70 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: I realized what she was talking about. You know, it's 71 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: funny in your in your mind's eye, you start to 72 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: one of the worst mistakes you can make as a mechanic, 73 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: and I guess as a person, and we start to 74 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: prejudge things. And in my eye, I said, well, it's 75 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: seven eight years old. It's got almost two or thousand 76 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: miles on it. See how I'm dating it. And I 77 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: guess if it runs, that's okay. But that wasn't the case. 78 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: It really had more zip in its hip, It really 79 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 1: had more to go. So I came back, well, what 80 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 1: do I do. I've got a trans that doesn't shift right, 81 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: but I've got no faults. There's no codes engine trans 82 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: anywhere in this car. This car is clean as a wizard, 83 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: which is kind of outstanding for a seven eight year 84 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: old car d ninety miles on it. What's good. What's 85 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: good is always a great way to diagnose any problem. 86 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: Tell me what's working, Tell me what you got, tell 87 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: me what exists. That's okay? Um a lot like Apollo 88 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: thirteen right when they had the when they had the 89 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: disaster on Apollo thirteen fifty years ago, one of the 90 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: of the first things they said was what's working on 91 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: the spacecraft? What's working on the car? Fuel trim was 92 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: absolutely perfect. I love fuel trim. Fuel trim, and I 93 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: won't go into the detailed explanation here unless somebody needs 94 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 1: it and calls up and says so, But I'm glad 95 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 1: to do it. But fuel trim to me is like 96 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: heart rate and blood pressure. It just tells you so much. 97 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: It's the first thing a doctor checks. It's it's become 98 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: the one of the first things we check every time 99 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: at the shop. If blood pressure, I'm sorry to see 100 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: how it relates. If fuel trim is right short term, 101 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 1: long term on a no fault diagnosis, that tells me 102 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: a lot. I looked at map sensor, you know, indicating 103 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: engine manifold vacuum, and that was spot on eighteen to 104 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: sixteen inches of vacuum cruising along when I put my 105 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 1: foot into a drop, just like I would expect it to. 106 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: And in short, every parameter I could think of out 107 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: of the engine calculated load was right, and take air 108 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: temp was right, cooling temp came up right. It was 109 00:05:55,120 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: enclosed loop operation. This car was just the non technical 110 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: parlance would be after you drove it enough, you realized 111 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: this car was a pig. It just wouldn't get out 112 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 1: of its own way. And let's go through basics. I 113 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: started to look for things that codes won't show up. 114 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: I started to look at misfire counts, and I started 115 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: to look at mode six data, which is the behind 116 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: the scenes peak at what's going on with this vehicle. 117 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: It was developing a misfire on cylinder five, not a 118 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: lot four counts, five counts, seven counts, ten counts and 119 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: then reset and not even enough that you were really 120 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 1: feeling it in the way the car rode. If you 121 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,679 Speaker 1: drove this car enough and you wound out the gear, 122 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: you could feel number five starting to break down. Let's 123 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: go look at five pulled the coils out. We'll attempted 124 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: to pull the coils out, and you know, do a 125 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: visual because it looked like somebody had been in there. 126 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: The wiring harness looked like the connector clamshell has were 127 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: pulled apart. And I could see that number five coil 128 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: was an off brand. It was in Volkswagen. It wasn't Bosh, 129 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: It didn't have any part numbers on it. It was 130 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: a generic no name. So I pulled it out. I 131 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: wanted to take a look at it, and the coil 132 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: came out in three pieces. Well, I guess that's bad, 133 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: all right, regardless of why the trans shifts like it is. 134 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: Let's put a coil in this car. And I explain 135 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: that to Genie and she she understood a d percent. 136 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: She said, yeah, go ahead, get a nice, you know, 137 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: Volkswagen piece of BOSH piece and let's do that. We 138 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: did that, and that got rid of the misfire counts. 139 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: But I still had a vehicle that, you know, shifted early. 140 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: It was almost like in the old days when a 141 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: throttle valve cable broke on a GM transmission something from 142 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: the early eighties of the late seventies, and we've all 143 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: been there at some point in the cable stretched out 144 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: and it just it just shifted early. So I did 145 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: some more basics. I looked at the throttle body, thinking 146 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: that throttle body angle can definitely have an effect on 147 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: trans shift point, especially if it's off, and just let's 148 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: let's go through basics, let's cover the obvious stuff. Sure enough, 149 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: the throttle body was really disgustingly dirty and I gave 150 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: it a good scrubbing, and then we had to go 151 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: and do something on Volkswagen. On a lot of cars, 152 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: Volkswagen does it a different way. We have to use 153 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: vaccom the VW factory Uh well, I call it a 154 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: v W factory tool. I don't believe it is actually 155 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: the factory tool. The truth is a lot of dealers 156 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: use vatcom because it works well and it's got a 157 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: lot of information and a lot of functionality in it. 158 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: And we had to do a throttle body adaption, which 159 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: tells the computer, hey, we cleaned everything. The throttle angle 160 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: now sits a little different. Let's let's tell it, hey, 161 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: here's your new starting point. I did that. It passed 162 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: with flying colors, Okay, reset adaptive, learned, move on. I 163 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: started thinking about that throttle body and the way they 164 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: do adapt is there, and I said, you know, I 165 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: wonder what the trans adaptives are like trans learned bad habits. 166 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: I wonder if I wonder if the misfire was enough 167 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: that it would cause this car to go into some 168 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: sort of early shift operation enough to limit performance so 169 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: that it wouldn't hurt the rest of the vehicle. Should 170 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: that misfire get or you wonder if it has that strategy? 171 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: And I don't know that answer, And you know what, 172 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: You're never gonna find out that answer unless you talk 173 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: to an engineer or maybe somebody that's seen this a 174 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: half a dozen times and can relate it to Yeah, 175 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: you know, if it misfires, it changes trans adapters hooked up. 176 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: Vad Com again went into trans adaptives and they do 177 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: it in two steps. You have to go through and 178 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: there's there's there's two sets of adapters on this car, 179 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: which I was glad there was only two because in 180 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: the research for it, some of the DSG transmissions have 181 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: five different adaptive resets. They can do all sorts of 182 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: crazy things and learn all sorts of bad habits, and 183 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: you can do all sorts of resets. Went through and 184 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 1: did the trans adaptive resets. Both of them took the 185 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: car out. Wow. Wow from a from a software learned 186 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: right from changing trans adaptive no parts. This car was fixed. 187 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: Now the question is for how long? And I said 188 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: that to Genie. I said, you know it's fixed. Go 189 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: take it for a ride. She said, wow, the car 190 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: has run like that in a long time. And because 191 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: this was my first time with this vehicle, I said, 192 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: you know, I can't tell you how long this is 193 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 1: gonna last. I can't tell you. Maybe it's related to 194 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 1: the misfire on five, maybe it's not. You know, you're 195 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 1: at a hundred and eighty eight thousand and change on mileage. 196 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: The trans has never been serviced, which, by the way, 197 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: I looked up I did some more research on that. 198 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: Folkswagen says trans never needs to be serviced. The fluid 199 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: is lifetime. There isn't even a check procedure for fluid level. 200 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: If you want to check fluid level, you have to 201 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 1: drain it all out and refill it. That was the procedure. 202 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 1: That's what they said. They didn't even have fluid listed. 203 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: Folks Wagon is saying if you need to change the fluid, 204 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: they really make it that you don't need to do this. 205 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: We want you to use seven speed trans fluid, not 206 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: six speed because but you're never gonna need to do that, okay, 207 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: and maybe you don't. I mean, bottom line, the cars fixed, 208 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 1: the cars running right now will learn bad habits again. 209 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. Well it needed transmission. Maybe I explained 210 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: to her that, you know, in looking up the odds, 211 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: she you typically we see vote swagon trans is in 212 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: the forty range. She's at one nine almost, so she 213 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 1: did very well by it. But just something to think about. 214 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: Also think about maybe we are gonna start fixing cars 215 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: just software, no parts, because yeah, I guess you had 216 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: to put a coil in it. I guess that's a part. 217 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 1: But that part had to be changed because somebody else 218 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: put in a bad part and it didn't hold up. 219 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: But is that what caused the trans to go into 220 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: bad adaptives? That what trans bad habits? Time will tell, 221 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,719 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you one thing. Cars are always a 222 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: learning curve for me, you and everybody included. I am 223 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: Ronandandy in the car doctor zero nine zero. I'll be 224 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: back right after this. We'll kick the garage doors wide open. 225 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: Don't go away, got time. Ride it on the wall 226 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: so you don't forget to call for a car. Advice 227 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: done right? Eight five five five zero zero. Now back 228 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: to Ron. Hey, let's get over and talk to Bill 229 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: and Vermont oh eight Nissan Frontier. Bill, how are you today? 230 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: I'll do bad. Ron. How are you doing? I'm doing great, sir. 231 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: What can I do for you? Well, I've got a 232 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: two thousand eight Nissan Frontier pick up the V six 233 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: standard transmission for a wheel drive sc version and unusual 234 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 1: problem with it. The driver's side door window is intermittent 235 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: and sometimes it'll go out at the wrong time, and 236 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: the I've been on the Frontier chat site on the 237 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: internet and I'm getting a lot of feedback. I'm getting 238 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: a lot of feedback. Can you hear me? Okay, yeah, 239 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: I can hear you. I can hear you. Fine, can 240 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: you hear me? Yes? That's better? Um at any rate? Uh. 241 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: They say that the way that solved the problem is 242 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: to hold the driver's side door electric window switch in 243 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: the up position and slam the door three times, and 244 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: it works every time. And it seems kind of unusual. 245 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 1: I was wondering if you knew anything about it. Um, 246 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: I haven't heard that one. That's probably right up there 247 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: with rub your belly button three times counterclockwise while you're 248 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: driving over the g W bridge and you know Chance 249 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: Satan's name, and maybe the carl work. I let's talk 250 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: about how this system operates, all right. Let's let's let's 251 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: deal in science. So is the problem only with the 252 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: driver's door? Passenger window works fine? Yes, windows works fine? Okay, 253 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: when the when? When it works? Does the auto function work? 254 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: Auto up? Um? You know I never really noticed that 255 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: because you do have auto you do have auto up? Right? Yes, 256 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: you have auto up, auto down? I believe, yeah, okay down, 257 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: But I would never really noticed auto up. Well, maybe 258 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: you don't have I think you do have it. I 259 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: think you do have um auto auto up. Uh. Let 260 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: me head to the truck. I'm right here. I'll take 261 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: a look. Yeah. So while you're doing that, let me 262 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: just tell you what the rest of it. So you 263 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: want to you want to verify do you have auto up, 264 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: bottle down? And is it working as as as prescribed? 265 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: All right? I think everyone of them does. But let's 266 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: assume you're only has auto down and not up. Okay. 267 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: Let's assume it's a base model, all right. So the 268 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: way the Wayne Nissan does that is there's a yellow 269 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: blue wire inside that's a communication wire, all right, and 270 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: you can actually plug a scan tool in and have 271 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: it talk to that driver's switch. That driver's switch is 272 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: actually a module, believe it or not. It's not a 273 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: simple switch anymore. Okay, So you if you could catch 274 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: this in failure mode, and I had my preference, I'd 275 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: plug in with a with a with a scanner and 276 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: go look under body module and can I talk to 277 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: that switch? Is it is it a matter of and 278 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,479 Speaker 1: is it a problem with the switch? Is the switch communicating? 279 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: And then the scan tool would then give me the 280 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: ability to go driver button, passenger button, and so on 281 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: and work my way around the switch which button doesn't 282 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: give me proper response? All right? Okay? Um, that being said, 283 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: my other question to you is, was the vehicle ever 284 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: in an accident? Ever have any body work and he 285 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: repairs on that side of the vehicle to wiring? I 286 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: don't believe so. Um. I haven't owned it since new, 287 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: but I've had every about a year and a half. 288 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: There was some funky wiring done to the passenger side lights, 289 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: which I don't know what caused that. You know, why 290 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: why they get it or whatever? Headlights? You're saying, yes, yeah, okay, 291 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: so you know listen anytime we get into something like this, 292 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: we're always gonna look for the obvious. We're still gonna 293 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: look down where the wiring comes out of the door, 294 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: is the is the loom and the rubber booty, you know, 295 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: intact as it look factory, you know, any signs of 296 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: tampering and someone, especially if you only had it for 297 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: a year and a half, the truck's thirteen years old, 298 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: anything's possible, right uh, you know, and then it's got 299 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: to be a case. I would ask for a repair 300 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: shop to you know, scan it, but pay particular attention 301 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: to do we have any fault codes in the body 302 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: side of this, all right, and then ask them to consider, 303 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: you know, if you can duplicate it and catch it 304 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: in the act. Can they test the switch using a 305 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: scan tool? All right? All right, because you're you're probably 306 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: going to find that you've got a bad driver's door switch. 307 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: I don't want to rule out wiring wiring. You know. 308 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: It's funny. The the one the one yellow blue wire 309 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: is is a thin gauge. It's it's and that's how 310 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: you can tell it's a communication line because they don't 311 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: need much to send a digital signal. But if that 312 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: wire yellow with a blue trace. Correct. Yeah, all right, 313 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: but if that wire was broken, you would be complaining 314 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: about the passenger window too. See see you think you 315 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: push the button and and it sends voltage. It flips 316 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: voltage at the at the motor. Right, the motor goes 317 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 1: this way, the motor goes that way, the window goes 318 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: up and down. No, it sends. It sends a digital 319 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:20,959 Speaker 1: signal to the controller. The controller then authorizes the relay, 320 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 1: which then flips and runs the kind of kind of 321 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: like when you turn your ignition switch and it sends 322 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 1: a small amount to the solenoid. Right, they run. They 323 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: do a lot of things in cars these days with 324 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: digital signals. They do a lot. And why is that? 325 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: Because the three cents? The simple answer is the three 326 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 1: cents they save on wiring too, the power, windows switch 327 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: or the starter where they don't have to have a 328 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: heavy gauge wire. They can have a light gauge wire 329 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: saves them three cents times a million cars do the math. 330 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: So if they can do it digitally, if they can 331 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: do it with less components, that's why you got to 332 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 1: get into a body shop, bill or repair shop. Let 333 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: him look at a VS scanner and they can give 334 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: you some more information. Call me back if you need more. 335 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. Good luck to you. I'm running 336 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 1: any in the Car Doctor. I'll be back right after this. 337 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: Don't go away, Welcome back? Where nay of the Car Doctor? 338 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 1: Eight five five zero zero the Car Doctor phone number. 339 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: Give us a call. If we're not here, leave a message. 340 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: This show is live on the network Saturday afternoons to 341 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,719 Speaker 1: to four pm Eastern time. We'd love to talk to you. 342 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: Let's get over to Gil in Arizona fifteen subar ru 343 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: and some questions about a new vehicle. Gil. Welcome aboard, sir. 344 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: How can I help? Yes, sir, thanks for taking my 345 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: call on You know, I bought my suber U in 346 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: two thousand fifteen. Based on consumer reports. It was the 347 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: highest rated car that's class. I think it still is. However, 348 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: I mean what I liked about it, the visibility, the 349 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: room in the back, the safety record, the resale. However, 350 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,479 Speaker 1: after having this car for five years, ron I wouldn't 351 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: buy another one had I've had a lot of problems 352 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 1: with it, and I've taken it across country and and 353 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 1: I've kept up faithfully with all the with all the 354 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 1: service that they recommend and change the oil faithfully. But 355 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: the Number one in Tucsonic gets warm, it gets hot, 356 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: and the air conditioning right from the get go. I 357 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: I just don't think it's adequate. I mean, I've had 358 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: many other cars. I've never had a car that just 359 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't cool down and the guy says it's working perfectly. Well. Anyway, 360 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: I've had enough for that Subaru, and I'm thinking about 361 00:19:55,880 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: getting an Escape. Now. Your engineer, I think, has a 362 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: couple of them, and I think you said your wife 363 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 1: hasn't explorer ron. You look at consumer reports and you 364 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: really can't even find ratings on those cars because they're 365 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: not I mean, it went down the list. But what 366 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: are your thoughts on on on the Escape number one 367 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: as a new vehicle purchase to replace the the screw 368 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 1: and why in the world doesn't consumer reports give them 369 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: better ratings? Um, I'll answer the last part first. About 370 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: consumer reports, I don't know, and I've got to go back, 371 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: and you know, I'm gonna date myself and show you 372 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: what a dinosaur I am. I haven't looked at consumer 373 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: reports in twenty years. I haven't looked like I haven't 374 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: looked at consumer reports I really don't care what they 375 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: say because I I I find that this is twenty 376 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: years ago, that their road tests and their viewpoints were biased, 377 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: and they would talk about cars that were great that 378 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: you know, I had piles of them broken in the shop. 379 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: But I'm going, yeah, it's great for me. I don't 380 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: know how great this for the guy that owns it. Uh, 381 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: you know, So I just you know, I gotta tell you, Gil, 382 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: there's there. There's some Sometimes I read car reviews and 383 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: I think I live in a different world. I think 384 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 1: I'm on another planet. I just I don't understand how 385 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: they come up with the things that they come up with. 386 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: So you know that being said, I buy cars that 387 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: a My priorities are can I get service information? Is 388 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: the tooling to repair it reasonable? All right? And you 389 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: know what's the reliability factor? All right? And you know 390 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: what's the dealer like? Um, you know everybody loves Honda, 391 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: all right, and and Honda is a good car. Um, 392 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: They've got their issues. I wouldn't I wouldn't. I wouldn't 393 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: own a Honda. I wouldn't own a Honda because they 394 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: make access to service information difficult. Uh. You know, it's 395 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: it's do I have it for customers in the shop, sure, 396 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 1: but on a personal basis, so you know, I come 397 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 1: back to that's like a big priority to me because 398 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: when I buy it, it's gonna break whatever I own. 399 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's gonna break, and somebody's gotta be 400 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: able to fix it, and somebody's gonna be able to 401 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: get parts and all of that comes into play. So 402 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: you know, why Ford is the question. And I anybody 403 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: that knows me, they'll tell you I'm a GM guy 404 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: for fifty years, al right, it's a matter of fact, 405 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: I'm a very specific GM guy. It was always it 406 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 1: was always Chevrolet, and I still think Chevrolet makes a 407 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 1: great product. But why Ford, Because I think in the 408 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: past five six years, Ford has really come a long way. 409 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: That they have their problems. Yep, they're human. They make 410 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: their mistakes, all right. I they just had a rash 411 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: of and it started in and it affected all the 412 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: way up through the model year. On the escapes. The 413 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: two leaders, um, it wasn't it was an odd failure. 414 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,479 Speaker 1: They couldn't really have I never saw the answer to it, 415 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: but they were having engine failures and I experienced it firsthand. Yeah, 416 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: but listen to how it was handled. I experienced it 417 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: firsthand with a customer. Um. She purchased a new Escape 418 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: in ten and within eight thousand miles or nine thousand miles, 419 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,360 Speaker 1: I think it was maybe ten, the head gas get 420 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: failed all right, and Ford he actually came out with 421 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: a bulletin. They talked about it. They said, hey, this 422 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: is a problem. This is what goes on. You know, 423 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 1: you've got to bring the car and if it's doing this, 424 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: this and this, and we'll take a look at it. 425 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: And sometimes the fixes they do a head gasket replacement. 426 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's an engine, sometimes it's a car. They had 427 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: her car. This is going back last summer. I think 428 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: I talked about this on air. They had her car 429 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: last summer. Um they got it, I think mid June. 430 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: They had the car all the way through the end 431 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: of September or early October. And what they ended up 432 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: doing was they said, you know what, we're not going 433 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: to fix this. There's problems getting parts. We're gonna They 434 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 1: had her in a loaner, so she was in another 435 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: car identical to the one she purchased, all right, and 436 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 1: they said, go pick out a car. She picked out 437 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: a car. She picked out something comparable to what she had. 438 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: And then she said, well, you know, I want this option. 439 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 1: I want that option. And I thought this was a 440 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: great way to handle it. And they said, well, the 441 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: car you bought was thirty grand. The car you picked 442 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 1: this thirty grand, but you want, you know, three thousand 443 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,239 Speaker 1: dollars worth of extras. So we're gonna take because she 444 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: was still making lease payment or car payments while they 445 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: had her car on the shop, We're gonna give We're 446 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: gonna give you credit for everything you've paid for up 447 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 1: to this point against that new cars. If you were 448 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 1: making payments on this new car. Wow, and then you're 449 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: gonna get then you're gonna pay us the three thousand 450 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 1: dollars extra for the options. So she and Essence got 451 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: a brand new car for the price of the seventeen 452 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: less its payments plus the options she wanted. And I 453 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: you know, every once in a while, car companies get 454 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: it right. And you know, I saw something like that, 455 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: and I said, how come nobody's talking about that. You know, 456 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: we always talk about the negative. We always talk about 457 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: the bed. And I guarantee you there's there's there's fifty 458 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: people out there that are cursing at me right now, 459 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: saying Ron, but I had a problem with Ford and 460 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: the dealer in this. Yeah, I get it, there's bad 461 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: out there, but you gotta look at the good too. 462 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 1: Why Ford? Okay, why Ford? Because I've seen them stand 463 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: up like that time and again. All right, UM, I 464 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: can get service information. My wife's in an explorer, all right. 465 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: I've got two daughters and escapes, all right. Um, you 466 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: know it's I've got tons of customers and escapes, and 467 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 1: yet Consumer Reports doesn't rate it. You know. My answer 468 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 1: is I'm glad they don't rate it because it's bad 469 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: for business. People buy escapes. They don't break. That's the problem. 470 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: And you know so you know, but but understand now 471 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: that and they've revamped the escape for twenty it's a 472 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: completely different body style. I have serviced a few of them, 473 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: you know, oil changes and stuff. Nothing really more than that. 474 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: I think they made working on it easier. The engine 475 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: compartment is laid out a little bit better. I would 476 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: definitely go for the two leader. Um. Obviously since your 477 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 1: a problem with the sub brew last time was air conditioning. 478 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: I would I would definitely, you know, I would go 479 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: with a lighter color in Arizona. I wouldn't get it. 480 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: I wouldn't get a sun roof. Um. Yeah, I'm not 481 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 1: a sunroof guy. I think it's like a greenhouse effect. Um. 482 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,719 Speaker 1: Also from a security point of view. And you know, 483 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: do dads that break sun roofs break? I don't like that, 484 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: but and leak and you know when they get older. 485 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: But I would, you know, I would go drive one. 486 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: I would go get lost in one for twenty minutes 487 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: and and and see how you like it. But I 488 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: have no problem with the escape with the Explorer, And um, 489 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: I think they're doing away with the edge. UM. I 490 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: don't know that they're continuing to make the edge. But 491 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,239 Speaker 1: I I think Ford and GM are probably top one 492 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: of the top two cars to go and look at today, 493 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: vehicles to look at today. I will, I will do 494 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 1: that and I appreciate that. And I did take your 495 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: a about the time versus time and miles and took 496 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: my two thousand nine f one and had him change 497 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,719 Speaker 1: all uh the fluids in it. And while they were 498 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 1: inspecting that, they found that my back brakes were razor thins. 499 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: I got back brakes, and that that truck runs like 500 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: you and it's got a hundred you know, there's something 501 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: about doing repairs in bunches Gill that we had a vehicle. 502 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: We had an edge in the shop this week with 503 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: a hundred and sixty thousand miles on it. It smoked 504 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: the right rear wheel bearing at one sixty and and 505 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 1: I said to Frank, I said, Frank, the breaks are 506 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: getting close from what I can see. Why don't we 507 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: do breaks? He says, yeah, do breaks, do both wheel 508 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: bearings and so on. You know what, it was a 509 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: good thing we did because when I took the left 510 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: side apart, the inner pad on the left side that 511 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: I couldn't see, I was getting a luck was a 512 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: lot closer than the other two because rust had taken 513 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: it and it's starting to bind it up. So you know, 514 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 1: doing things as systems and as component related in an 515 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: area of repair just makes a lot of sensor it really, 516 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 1: it definitely does. And something that my father in law 517 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: just have to mention. My late father in law who 518 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: absolutely loved Ford, and he just said this about cards 519 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: in general. He'd always say, you save your money because 520 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: if there isn't anything wrong with the car right now, 521 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 1: there will be right well, you know, I think I 522 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: think Henry Ford said it best as long as we're 523 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: talking about Ford, and then I'm gonna go. Henry Ford said, 524 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: you know what, I'll give you the car for free 525 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: because in in in two years, the parts are gonna 526 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: be falling off. It's so fast you need a wheelbarrel 527 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: behind it. So uh, you know, And that was what 528 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: the twenties. So it's it's they've gotten better obviously, but 529 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: you know he understood cars break, parts go bed, and 530 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna need to repair it. That's why I say 531 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: the car gets to be three years old. Put away 532 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: Hunter and a month and your maintenance fund whether you 533 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: need it or not, because sooner or later you will. Gil. 534 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: I enjoyed the call. Good luck to you, and I 535 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: hope you enjoy your new car. Let us know what 536 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: you end up buying ron and ating the car doctor zero. 537 00:28:55,200 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: We're back right after this, but not gonna hey running 538 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: any of the car. Doctor. Let's get over to Marvin 539 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: in Michigan eight six f one fifty. Marvin, how are 540 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: you today? Doing pretty good? So what's going on here? 541 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: I have for one fifty it's got the cylinder in 542 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: it carburetted, right, yes it is? Yeah? Okay, carter Y, 543 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: if think ahead yep, and ask you driver for about 544 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: ten minutes. You know what, it gets warmed up, it 545 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: sits and sputters and dies on you. Okay, and does 546 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: it does it restart or does it stay dead? It'll restart, 547 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: but not very well. But if you let it sit 548 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: for an hour or so and cool off, he'll start 549 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: right start, right up, fine, run great for a bout 550 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: ten minutes. Any any diagnosis done anywhere? Well, what I 551 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: did was, you know, I changed the coil in the 552 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: plug wires. You're trying to getting old anyway. But when 553 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: I pulled the wire off the oil uh you know, 554 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: but your dust came out and with the oil wire 555 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: passing it down to the coil, that point was really 556 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: pitted and worn. I want to head and replace the coil. Okay, 557 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: So let's do some diagnosis. This is this is a 558 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: fairly simple vehicle that diagnosed. It's carburetted. It's carburetted with 559 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: you know, for durs spark ignition. So when it goes 560 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: into this you know when it dies, Um, take the 561 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: air cleaner off, look down the throat of the carburetor, 562 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: crack the throttle, give it a shot, give it like 563 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: wide open throttle. Do you get a good healthy spray 564 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: of fuel. U. Not that I've noticed. No, Okay, so 565 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: you've done this, yes, so so this is out of fuel. 566 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: It appears like it's out of fuel, right, yes, either 567 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: the fuel or since issue problem. Okay, so, but that's 568 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: what we're trying to get to. Listen, it's it's a 569 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: low it's a lawnmower engine. Brother, it's sparker fuel. It's 570 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,959 Speaker 1: not mechanical, right, And this is a real basic you know. 571 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: This is the farmers fixed these out in the middle 572 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: of the cornfields. All right, So this isn't a this 573 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: isn't a big deal engine, all right, And no slight 574 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: to the farmers, right. I hold the highest respect for farmers. 575 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: There the most inventive people in the world. So what 576 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: I want you to do is, do you have a 577 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: Do you have a rally out to parts store local? Uh? Yeah, okay, 578 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: why don't you jump down to one of them, go 579 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: in and tell them you want a spark tester? Do 580 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: you have a spark tester? I should ask you that question. Okay, 581 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: go by a spark tester. All right. You're gonna spend 582 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: somewhere thirty dollars or less, and it's either going to 583 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: be the style that's a it looks like a spark 584 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: plug with an alligator clip attached to it, all right, 585 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: or it's gonna be about two inches long. It's black, 586 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: it's got an alligator clip, it's got graduations on it 587 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: for approximate sparked. Uh, you know a gap and you'll 588 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: see it. You'll understand. The idea is it's it's more 589 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: accurate than taking a screw driver, sticking in the spark 590 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: plug wire and trying to ground it to the head. 591 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: All right. Plus, because you're gonna be doing this alone 592 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 1: when the truck break, probably you can attach it to 593 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: a plug wire. All right. Set your gap to thirty 594 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: thousands or thirty thousand vaults. Lets see if this coil 595 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: will put out thirty thousand vaults when it has When 596 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: it does, does it have spark? If it jumps to 597 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: thirty thousand volt gap, it's got spark. It's not spark related. 598 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: Now we can focus on fuel, all right, and then 599 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: we can talk about do we have a fuel pump failing. 600 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: Do we have a problem in the tank because of 601 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: the age of the truck. Is there dirt somewhere in 602 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: the system, So you do that You can also look 603 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: it up on o'reillyoto dot com. You do those things 604 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: this week, call me back next week, spark or fuel brother. 605 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: Pretend it's a one cylinder, one more engine. How would 606 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: you fix it? And we can talk about it the 607 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: fact that it's broken. You gotta be able to diagnose 608 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: it in fifteen minutes. I don't care. All right, you 609 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: call me back, let me know what happens, Morvin, take 610 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: good care. Iring any of the car doctor. We'll be 611 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: back right after this. Want any of the car doctor. 612 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: You can always tell the gear heads of the car 613 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: people in the room, right you know, you say to somebody, Hey, um, 614 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: you know, what do you remember about your youth or 615 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: what do you recall? What's what was a better time 616 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: to you? And you go around the room and some 617 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: people will talk about when their kids were small, when 618 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: they traveled to the Grand Canyon, or maybe they were, 619 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: you know, living in a different part of the country. 620 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: A car person. I got an email from Fixing All 621 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: twenty three. He says, I was listening to the podcast 622 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: the other day and the words Rochester Quadratete brought a 623 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: big smile and warm feelings over me of a younger 624 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: more innocent day, be well, thank you for the experience. 625 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: That's a car person because you say Rochester Quadraget and 626 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: everybody's ears perk up if you're a car guy or 627 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: a car person, and they go, oh, yeah, I had 628 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: one of those ones. And it just gives you a warm, 629 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: fuzzy feeling, and you start to have memories of you know, 630 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: what a flooded carburetor would do, and when the choke 631 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: pull off went bad, and when the choke got stuck, 632 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 1: and when the riser went bed and melted out the 633 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: bottom of the car buretor and wiped out the two 634 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: center exhaust valves on the side of a small block Chevy, 635 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: and you start to have all these memories come rushing back. 636 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 1: That's a car person, right, simpler, easier times. Danny was 637 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 1: working on a Zy this week, and you know, I'm 638 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,399 Speaker 1: trying to teach him how to make it a little 639 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: bit more bulletproof. He's got a seventy Z with a 640 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: three fifty four barrel factory car, a nice original car, 641 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 1: and he said, what do I need in terms of ignition? 642 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: You need a module, a pickup coil and ignition coil. 643 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: Even though they'll probably never go bad. But by them 644 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: while you still can. You need a Philip screw driver 645 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 1: and a straight blade and if you've got all that, 646 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 1: you can fix anything you want on the side of 647 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: the road and maybe a small ballpeen hammer. You're golden. 648 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,839 Speaker 1: Uh you know at that point, through a fuel pump 649 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: in the trunk, trunk and uh you're good to go. 650 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: So um, you know what Rochester quadratet fixing cars on 651 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 1: the side of the road. I'm roundingading in the car doctor, 652 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: reminding you good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you. 653 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 1: She was to Ta