1 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. You're listening to the 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Intelligence Podcast. Catch us live weekdays at ten am 3 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: Eastern on Affo card playing and broud Otto with the 4 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business App. Listen on demand wherever you get your podcasts, 5 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: or watch us live on YouTube. 6 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 2: Let's go from equities to the bond market. We got 7 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: that revision of CPI. We got a lot of bond 8 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: auctions this week. Everything seemed to be okay. 9 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 3: We are though at you're to date highs with some 10 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 3: of yields across the curve. 11 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 2: So Ira Jersey, Bloomberg Intelligence Chief US interest rate strategist, 12 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: joins us. Now, Okay, Ira, if you were to describe 13 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: this week so far, how would you describe it choppy? 14 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 4: Certainly we see somewhat higher yields, you know, from the 15 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 4: beginning of the week to now. But when you look 16 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 4: at the preponderance of the data that we've received, plus 17 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 4: plus how the auctions went, and you so other things, 18 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 4: we're pretty decent in terms of demand. So these higher 19 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 4: yields are starting to draw in some investors, which leads 20 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 4: us to believe that we're probably trying to find a 21 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 4: range here for a lot of places along the curve, 22 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 4: you know, the ten years somewhere broadly speaking, between three 23 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 4: eighty and four and a quarter. You know, I suspect 24 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 4: that until we get to at least the March FMC meeting, 25 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 4: that we might stay in that range. So you have 26 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 4: another month basically of just choppy trading. 27 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 5: So where are we when you kind of talk to 28 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 5: clients out there in terms of timing of a rate 29 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 5: cut March off the table? It seems like I hear 30 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 5: now there's waffling on May that maybe people are pushing 31 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 5: out to June. 32 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 6: What do you see? 33 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. And then there's but there's another camp 34 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 4: also that that suggests that maybe if the Federal Reserve 35 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 4: doesn't cut in March, which you know, like you said, 36 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 4: is certainly not priced in the market anymore as it 37 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 4: used to be, that maybe the Federal Reserve will need 38 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 4: to cut by fifty in May if they start. So 39 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 4: there's a lot of different camps right now. It doesn't 40 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 4: seem to be a whole lot of consensus, which of 41 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 4: course is what makes markets of course, but a lot 42 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 4: of times there's certainly people leaning one way or the 43 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 4: other as to you know, whether or not they'll be 44 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 4: a cut in May, whether or not, and then the 45 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 4: magnitude of that cut now is a discussion point among investors, 46 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 4: and there's just feeling that the longer the Fed weights, 47 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 4: the more that they may have to cut later, or 48 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 4: that they might cut faster. So the idea being that 49 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 4: if they don't maybe go in cut in either March 50 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 4: or May, that maybe in June they have to cut 51 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,959 Speaker 4: fifty basis points as a starting point. I'm skeptical of that, 52 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 4: and I actually think that the Federal Reserve would do 53 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 4: well to give themselves optionality by cutting in May and 54 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 4: then not maybe cutting in June, and that way thereafter 55 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 4: they can make a decision meeting by meeting. The problem 56 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 4: is is that markets always interpolate and say, okay, well, 57 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 4: if they're cutting in May, that means they're cutting every 58 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 4: single meeting after that, and that's certainly not what the 59 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 4: Federals or would like to be priced into the market 60 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 4: at this point. 61 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 2: So we got choppy yields based on what you've seen 62 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 2: today in the bond market. For the setup, does it 63 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 2: make sense that you have equities at all time highs? 64 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 2: I appreciate your the bond guy, but I bet you 65 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 2: have a view. 66 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 4: On this, well, you know, risk assets. I think you know, 67 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 4: there's evaluation metric and then also a growth metric, right, 68 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 4: so so you have you know, top line, bottom line, 69 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 4: and then what people are willing to pay for their asset. 70 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 4: I think that that there's a lot of people. It 71 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 4: seems like, at least to us, that there's still significant 72 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 4: flows into into into equities, and part of that is 73 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 4: just you know, fear of missing out, just people who 74 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 4: think that they have to be invested. There's still you know, 75 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 4: there's this idea that hey, savings is has been exhausted, 76 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 4: and that that means a consumer is not going to 77 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 4: be spending much as much. But at the same time, 78 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 4: when you look at the savings rate of the country, 79 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 4: we're still saving hundreds of billions of dollars a year, right, 80 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 4: and that money has to go somewhere. Some of that's 81 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 4: going to be invested in stocks, some will go into 82 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 4: savings and money market accounts, and some will go into 83 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 4: bonds obviously, so but so the mix of that savings 84 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 4: and where it goes I think matters, and just you know, 85 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 4: people are return chasers, right, particularly retail investors, so you know, 86 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 4: they open their year end statement and say, hey, stocks 87 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 4: did great last year. I better buy stocks. 88 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: Now. 89 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 4: That's not always the best decision, right, but that nonetheless 90 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 4: that does create these meaningful flows. And then on the 91 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 4: bond side of things, you know, with with the Fed 92 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 4: Reserve maybe not cutting as aggressively, there has certainly been 93 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 4: people rotating out of out of some fixed income assets, 94 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 4: particularly the front end of the yield curve, and you know, 95 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 4: maybe going the other direction now and not necessarily being 96 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 4: short but basically finding other alternatives. And you look at 97 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 4: money market funds. Money market money market funds continue to 98 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 4: have massive inflows, and now their assets under management are 99 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 4: the highest ever once Agallion like. 100 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: You look at the chart, it's so hard to see 101 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 2: all the zeros because you're like, wait a second, what's that? 102 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 3: I mean, that's you and six billion six. 103 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 4: All right, So people keep people keep asking Alex, you know, 104 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 4: how is the government funding all of these deficits? Well 105 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 4: it's right there, because people putting money into money market 106 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 4: funds just means that the government issues T bills and 107 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 4: money market funds buy them. 108 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 6: All right. 109 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 5: Lisa from Upper Manhattan writes in and says, I have 110 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 5: to ask about the auctions this week. 111 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 6: How did they go? What did you learn? 112 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 4: They went very well? Surprisingly well. Actually, what we've seen 113 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 4: the last few months was you'd have one auction that 114 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 4: would do well and then another auction would do poorly. 115 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 4: And you know where people basically pick their spots in 116 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 4: you know where to invest in auctions. But this week's 117 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 4: auction is a three year note, the ten year note, 118 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 4: and the thirty year bond. They all went fine, and 119 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 4: these were also larger auction sizes. The one that I 120 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 4: was really worried about was the three year auction because 121 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 4: that was two billion dollars larger than the month before, 122 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 4: and that was probably the weakest of the three. But 123 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 4: people still wanted to buy duration, and I think part 124 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 4: of that is endemic of the fact that we have 125 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 4: higher yields now than we did a couple of weeks ago, 126 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 4: So it was an easier way for people to start 127 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 4: taking market risk instead of going into the open market 128 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 4: and paying a bid offer. Because at the auctions, you're 129 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 4: basically buying on the bid side. So that's attractive for 130 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 4: some investors, and it does seem like you know what 131 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 4: we call indirect investors, So those are end users, those 132 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:27,239 Speaker 4: are foreign portfolio investors or central banks or domestic investment funds. 133 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 4: They were big participants in this. So this wasn't driven 134 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 4: by primary dealers. This was really driven by end user 135 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 4: investors having pretty good demand. 136 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 3: IIRA next week, you get CPI Tuesday, retail sales Thursday. 137 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 3: Do you think any of this are really going to 138 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 3: move the needle for you? 139 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 4: Well, maybe not in terms of the Federal Reserve, but 140 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 4: I think it will give some new information obviously as 141 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 4: to maybe what the future path is. Again, like you know, 142 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 4: now we're talking about May or June, and we're talking 143 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 4: about you know, twenty five or fifty whenever the federal 144 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 4: Reserve does go. So these are always important numbers. And 145 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 4: CPI is next to payrolls is now the number one. 146 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 4: So it's payrolls and then CPI, then retail sales in 147 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 4: that order that the bond market cares about. And when 148 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 4: you look at the knee jerk reactions after the after 149 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 4: those those news releases, that's when you see tenure yields 150 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 4: move the most one way or the other if you 151 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 4: get a big surprise. So you know, again next to payrolls, 152 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 4: next week's two numbers are really the key for the 153 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 4: market and maybe the market direction and the medium Durm. 154 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 5: All right, Ira, thanks so much, as always appreciate it. 155 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 5: Ira Jersey chief us in straight strategies for Bloomberg Intelligence, 156 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 5: kind of getting a sense your rest some more data 157 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 5: as you mentioned alex Net next week. But I'm just 158 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 5: going to at the WORP function. It's kind of fifty 159 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 5: to fifty for a May price cut, and that you know, 160 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 5: it's been well over one hundred percent chance that there 161 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 5: would be a May cut. You know, back in January, 162 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 5: the market was discounting, Hey, it's going to happen in 163 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 5: May now not a little bit less. 164 00:07:55,400 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: So you're listening to the Bloomberg Intelligence Podcast. Don't catch 165 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: us live weekdays at ten am Eastern on Apple car 166 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: Play and Android Auto with the Bloomberg Business. You can 167 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: also listen live on Amazon Alexa from our flagship New 168 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: York station just say Alexa playing Bloomberg eleven thirty. 169 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 3: Here's my question. Are you guys watching the Super Bowl? 170 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 3: How we confirmed the horse? Yes here, well obviously, Paul, Yeah, yeah, I. 171 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 7: Guess I feel like I have to I have to 172 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 7: go to bed at like six thirty seven. 173 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 6: You're going to get to be here. 174 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 7: I'll just I'll record it on my VCR. 175 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 3: I think I have to watch CR. 176 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 6: Oh wow, he's got his bait it. 177 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, next, that's not even a thing I like. I 178 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 3: have to watch it to be able to have this 179 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 3: conversation with you guys on socially relevant well sure, I 180 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 3: mean socially relevant. 181 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 8: I don't know. 182 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 7: Do you have a do you have a pick? 183 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 4: No? 184 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 7: No, you know who's playing? 185 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 3: Yes, the forty nine ers and the Cheeks. 186 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 6: Very good, thank you. 187 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 3: I think I have to go with the Chiefs because 188 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 3: my daughter likes tailors. 189 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 2: But this leads me into the question and of snacks, 190 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 2: because I'm not going to as we know, I don't 191 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 2: need junk food, so I'm not going to be eating 192 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 2: chicken tail. 193 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 3: This is just not I'm not going to drink beer. 194 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 3: I'm not going to do those things. So maybe if 195 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 3: we had. 196 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 2: We had some prosecco and some hummus, okay, and some 197 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 2: pita and maybe some cucumbers and carrots. 198 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 7: That's the food. That's the that's the food for the 199 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 7: Oscar party, not the super Bowl. 200 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 2: But I bet you I'm not the only one who's 201 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: going to have to be doing this, which leads I 202 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 2: into gembar task okay, senior retail staples and packaged food 203 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 2: analysts Jen Usually this conversation is chicken, wings and beer 204 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 2: and pizza and stuff. 205 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 3: Is the conversation different this year? 206 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 8: Well, it's it's a little bit different. And that snack is. 207 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 8: Snacks are still a huge part of the Super Bowl, 208 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 8: but because the viewership is going to be changing a 209 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 8: little bit for this game, mostly due to that Taylor 210 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 8: Swift impact that we were talking about, we may see 211 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 8: a little bit of edging into slightly healthier snacks like 212 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 8: popcorn or things like that versus just the pizza, you know, 213 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 8: wings and things like that. How big? 214 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 6: I mean, it's just it's this weekend, the two weeks 215 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 6: has become so big. 216 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 5: And if I'm the package goods companies, is it an 217 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 5: important day for them to know, push their product, promote 218 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 5: their products, have people buy their product. 219 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's it's important in two respects. The first is 220 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 8: that the Super Bowl is the second biggest food holiday 221 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 8: in the United States, So in the week up to 222 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 8: the Super Bowl, people will spend, according to our estimates, 223 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 8: nine hundred and six million dollars in one week just 224 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 8: on snacks. When it comes to food and beverage, is 225 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 8: as a whole for the one week before the super 226 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 8: Bowl eight point eight billion dollars, So it is a 227 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 8: meaningful unofficial holiday for beverage and food companies. For sure, 228 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 8: this might be. 229 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 2: Really off, but it's also the Lunar New Year, and 230 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 2: I'm actually going to two parties over the weekend, which 231 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 2: I don't go to parties, So this is actually a 232 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 2: moment for me. 233 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 6: No parties, no beer, no wings. 234 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 2: I'm really not selling myself days of time spend an 235 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 2: Expedia dot com. But Jen, is there like an overlap here. 236 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 2: I mean, I appreciate that the food you might have 237 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 2: for Lunar New Year is going to be different than 238 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:17,719 Speaker 2: the snacking you do for the Super Bowl, but it 239 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,719 Speaker 2: is just like a moment for someone that's more, i 240 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 2: don't know, diversified to really capitalize. 241 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 8: Absolutely. When you look at some of the package food companies, 242 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 8: especially those that play in the confectionery space like Mandali's 243 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 8: or Hershey, they actually tend to see a sales bump 244 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 8: around Lunar New Year, so you've got complimentary things happening. 245 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 8: So between the super Bowl and between the New Year, 246 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 8: it could be a very very nice little period for 247 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 8: the package food companies and the retailers that sell those products. 248 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 8: But just remember, as we're going into earning season, all 249 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 8: of this is going to impact first quarter earnings, not 250 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 8: fourth quarter earnings. 251 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 5: Jen has got inner research. Note here, Jen has got 252 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 5: some data that just blows me away. 253 00:11:59,000 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 6: I had no idea. 254 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 5: The dollar share in the salty snacks category. PepsiCo leads 255 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 5: the way with sixty point eight percent. Number two the 256 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 5: private label group as a whole six. 257 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 6: Point nine percent. Jen, what's good? 258 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 5: I mean, the salty snack business is PepsiCo. 259 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 6: PepsiCo is the salty snack business. 260 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 8: It really is. I mean, and if you have to remember, 261 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 8: PepsiCo owns Freedo lay right, So all of those, you know, 262 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 8: all you know, whether it's your lace, potato chips or Gerrita's, 263 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 8: you know, all of those salty things are all part 264 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 8: of that Pepsi PepsiCo portfolio. Other players in the salty 265 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 8: snacks category can also win. Kelenova owns springles, you know, 266 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 8: that's also a popular kind of game day, pop it 267 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 8: and eat it kind of thing. Hershey has popcorn brands, 268 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 8: so you know, but by far the dominant player is PepsiCo. 269 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 3: What's what's their growth rate, because didn't they disappoint with earnings? 270 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 8: They did, but they disappointed in earnings. On the beverage 271 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 8: side of the business, volumes were down, and you know 272 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 8: part of that was is just elevated and put costs, 273 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 8: especially in sweeteners. 274 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 6: So top to us, let's step back, all right, So 275 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 6: super Bowl is going to be big. People are going 276 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 6: to go crazy. 277 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 5: Talk to us about the you know, the supermarket business. 278 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 5: What's what's going on there in these days? 279 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,599 Speaker 8: Well, you know, with regards to grocery, there's there's a 280 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 8: couple of things that are happening. So first is we've 281 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 8: started to see food inflation come down. So that's actually 282 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 8: good news for the consumer, and that's really being led 283 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 8: by the grocers. And so when the US goes through 284 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 8: an inflationary period, the grocers are one of the first 285 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 8: retailer types that will actually bring prices down for consumers. 286 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 8: And so although there's been a lot of political buzz 287 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 8: about food prices still being too high, you know, the 288 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 8: inflation rate is coming down. We are starting to see 289 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 8: prices come back down. But that's going to present a 290 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 8: unique challenge as the year goes on, because if things 291 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 8: cost less, if you're going to maintain your top line growth, 292 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 8: that means you have to sell more volume, and so 293 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 8: that dynamic between that price and volume is going to 294 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 8: really be exacerbated this year as inflation starts to recede. 295 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 2: Can we go to Super Bowl ads? I know you 296 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 2: went away from it for a second, but let's go 297 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 2: back to the ads. So bud Light, I mean, was 298 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 2: that the was the Super Bowl last year, the one 299 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 2: that had the disastrous ad? 300 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 8: Well, it was, I don't I honestly, I don't know 301 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 8: if it was part of the Super Bowl, but it was. 302 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 3: It was. 303 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 8: It was it, you know where they they kind of 304 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 8: had that. 305 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 5: The transgender transgender influencer. 306 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I just really disrupted sales, had a 307 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 2: meaningful impact. What are we going to expect from like 308 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 2: the retailers and the snack guys with the ads? Like, 309 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 2: how kind of cautious are we going to see? 310 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 8: My guess is, you know they'll probably a little be 311 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 8: a little bit more conservative in terms of broad appeal, right, 312 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 8: And so at the end of the day, you know, 313 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 8: you pay a lot of money for a Super Bowl ad, 314 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 8: and so you wanted to resonate with as many people 315 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 8: as possible and spurs need people to action to buy 316 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 8: your goods and services, and so I think it's a 317 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 8: reasonable assumption that they'll be kind of mainstream type of messages. 318 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 8: But of course, you know, forty four percent of people 319 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 8: who tune into the Super Bowl do it for the ads, 320 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 8: So it's it's it's a form of entertainment, and so 321 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 8: I wouldn't expect anything too serious or too heavy as 322 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 8: we look at the advertisements this year. 323 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, and Bloomberg News had a story out today just 324 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 5: you know, saying how it's you know, it's gonna be 325 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 5: right down. 326 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 6: The middle of the fairway. 327 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 5: Try not to get anybody up set, try to make 328 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 5: people feel good, try to bridge some gaps. Maybe, so 329 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 5: we'll see how that plays out. But again, seven million 330 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 5: dollars for a thirty second spot. 331 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 3: Is what's seven million dollars for thirty second spot? 332 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 7: Yes? 333 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 6: Whow now? Actually it's little to no growth from last year. 334 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 5: And I actually think people are going to get a 335 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 5: great buy for that seven million dollars because it is 336 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 5: going to have a better audience I think, better demographics, 337 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 5: more women than too typical, and that makes it more 338 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 5: valuable in my opinion. I know exactly, I am point 339 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 5: with the case in point right. 340 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 3: Just get me some homicides. 341 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 6: We're good, exactly, Thanks so much for joining us. 342 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 5: Jen Bartashic just covers all the consumer space for Bloomberger Intelligence, 343 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 5: doing a great job taking a look here at some 344 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 5: of the package goods companies and kind of how they play. 345 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 5: How important this Super Bowl Sunday is and it's some big, 346 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 5: big dollars out there. 347 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 9: But again, I was just. 348 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 5: Blown away by the fact that in the salty snacks category, 349 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 5: PepsiCo sixty percent of the market. 350 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 3: Are we all Freedo lovers here? 351 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 8: Like? 352 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 3: Is this an takeaway from you guys? Like straight up? 353 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 6: Like yeah, straight up, fres that's the go to dude. 354 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 7: Can you you can dip Freedo's. 355 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 3: I mean they're already made of garbage, right, so you 356 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 3: can just dip them in anything. 357 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly exactly. 358 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 3: I mean. 359 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 6: Somebody around here likes the cheese its and that's a 360 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 6: solid snack. But I have to go Frito's over Jesus, 361 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 6: what do you watch it down with? Budweiser in cans 362 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 6: really nice. 363 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 3: Red wine. 364 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 7: With freedom. It's a great peering. 365 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 5: No, the house brew in the sweetiest state is Budweiser 366 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 5: in Cans has to be. 367 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Bloomberg Intelligence Podcast. 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It's checking with Joe Blancharchie is the 378 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 5: president of Enterprises Client Solutions. I'm sorry, her title president 379 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 5: of Enterprise Client Solutions and the name of the firm 380 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 5: is Advantage Solutions. Jill, thanks so much for joining us here, 381 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 5: give us a sense of I know, we come to 382 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 5: the Super Bowl week and I guess consumers are buying stuff. 383 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 5: But how's the consumer doing out there generally in terms 384 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 5: of you know, going out there and buying stuff versus 385 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 5: maybe buying experiences. 386 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 10: Yes, So, first of all, hello and thank you for 387 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 10: having me back, and really good question, because we're really 388 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 10: seeing a dichotomy out there. 389 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 11: It's definitely tough for consumers. 390 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 10: I heard Jen say that food inflation has cooled, which 391 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 10: it has, but it's still up twenty five percent since 392 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 10: twenty nineteen, and that's six points higher than the average inflation. 393 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 10: So consumers are both pairing down to spend less and 394 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 10: find things that are more of more value, but at 395 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 10: the same time looking for affordable indulgences. 396 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 11: The Super Bowl is one of those. 397 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,479 Speaker 10: It is akin to the next Thanksgiving, where you've got 398 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 10: herds of people that gather inside the home to do food, 399 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 10: family fun, football. I think that we saw that the 400 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 10: NRF Super Bowl surveys predicting a record number of Super 401 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 10: Bowl sales. About eighty percent of that is food and beverage. 402 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 10: So if you're selling those products, this could be a 403 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 10: really good season. 404 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 3: And just for our audience. 405 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 2: Advantaged solutions you basically talk to retailers and help them understand, 406 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 2: say inventory, if they have the right products on the shelves, 407 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 2: even if they're in store or online, et cetera. 408 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 3: What did you tell people before the Super Bowl to 409 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 3: stop up on? 410 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 11: Oh great question. 411 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 10: So a couple of pieces of advice that we put 412 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 10: out there to Bold our manufacturer as well as our 413 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 10: retail our clients. One is the recent trend that we 414 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 10: saw and talked about last month, sorry, which is the 415 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 10: disproportionate spend that we're seeing in the two to three 416 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 10: days that are leading up to key events. So for 417 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 10: the Super Bowl, think today and tomorrow, so the retailers 418 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 10: have to make sure that they have that inventory. 419 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 11: The second thing is look for consumers to pare down 420 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 11: to find value. 421 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 10: So as it relates to Super Bowl, that's going to 422 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 10: mean different things to different consumers. So that may be 423 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 10: pairing down from like a Wagoo beef to a prime rib. 424 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 10: It could be from a prepared charcoutering player to one 425 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 10: that you make yourself a big brand to a national brand. 426 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 10: And of course always looking for things on sale. And 427 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 10: then let's talk products. Here are what we think are 428 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 10: going to be Two of the surprises for super Bowl. 429 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 10: One is not alcoholic. Beer in my tails are having 430 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 10: a really good day. 431 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 3: For I See You, I See you the lot use 432 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 3: these two guys on this one. 433 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 10: I heard the previous discussion about red wine beer and prosecco, 434 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 10: but a beer in my tails are having a pretty 435 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 10: good day. 436 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 11: So we see those both cannibalizing some of the alcohol. 437 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 10: Sales but also adding to overall beverage sales. And then 438 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 10: another contender, this year's private brand. Ninety two percent of 439 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 10: consumers trust a private brand as much as a national brand, 440 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 10: and it's a great way for consumers to pare down 441 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 10: and get that value. So think snacks, ingredients, appetizers. 442 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 6: That's what I have to admit. 443 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 5: I'm not a big shopper, but I noticed a changing 444 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 5: my shopping habits for groceries during the pandemic when we 445 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 5: were buying more stuff and prices were going up. I 446 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 5: now go store brand, probably way more than half. Now 447 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 5: you know, it's only a few and. 448 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 9: Is it rise? 449 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 6: I just figured it's this cost. I mean it's materurely lower. 450 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 6: It is like thirty forty. 451 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 5: Percent lower on some of these things. So I don't know, 452 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 5: but it's a change in behavior. So I guess the 453 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 5: question here is we're going to get retail sales next 454 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 5: week and we're going to start hearing from some of 455 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 5: the retailers. 456 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 6: But it appears, you know that the consumers. 457 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 5: They have a job, if they want them wages you're 458 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 5: going up. 459 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 7: Is it fair? 460 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 5: To say that the consumer we should we should expect 461 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 5: the consumer to continue to be fairly strong. 462 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 10: Oh boy, I think in the consumer package goods world, 463 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 10: we're probably looking at flat four twenty twenty four. 464 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 11: This is what most of the industry experts are saying. 465 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 10: Manufacturers, though, and the recent survey that we just did 466 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 10: at advantage, eighty percent of manufacturers are predicting growth based 467 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 10: on new products and expanded distribution of current products. 468 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 11: That could be a little too confident. 469 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 10: They were also overconfident in their holiday sales predictions. Retailers 470 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 10: are less confident, with about half of retailers predicting mild 471 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 10: growth both, so we'll see how it plays out. Consumers, 472 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 10: you know, as I said before, are still in a 473 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 10: pretty tough place. The overall confidence in their ability to 474 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 10: afford everyday life has gone down twenty points from sixty 475 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 10: percent of forty percent since such twenty nineteen, So this 476 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 10: will definitely have an effect on twenty four sales and volume. 477 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 2: What are you telling them about inventories? Are we going 478 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 2: to be in a world where I guess I'm talking 479 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 2: more with say, clothing electronics maybe rather than food. 480 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 3: Is it gonna be like a just in time inventory 481 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 3: or what are you telling them? 482 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 10: Inventory is a really tricky proposition right now. You've got 483 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 10: a lot of retailers trying to reduce inventory, which is 484 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 10: a risky game to play. There are benefits to doing that, 485 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 10: but there are also challenges in that if there's i 486 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 10: mean take the recent social media runs. I mean, don't 487 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 10: get me going on the Stanley Cup, but there are 488 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 10: there are runs on products which could be driven by 489 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 10: social media, could be driven by a strong marketing program 490 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 10: and often times, and also don't forget the disproportioned of sales. 491 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 11: The two to three days before the key events. 492 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 10: Many retailers got caught in Thanksgiving and had to adjust 493 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 10: for a Christmas because they didn't have the inventory. 494 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 11: So it's a bit of a it's a bit of 495 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 11: a risk. It's got upside, it's got downside. 496 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 5: Are there enough chickens out there for the chicken wing demand? 497 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 3: Oh no, A good question, did you guys? 498 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 11: Did you see that? 499 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 10: The National Chicken Council last year said that there were 500 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 10: enough chicken wings consumed last year during Super Bowl for 501 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 10: every person in the country to have four. So I'm 502 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 10: not sure who had my four, but somebody is having 503 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 10: a lot of wings. 504 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 5: And I remember, I mean there was a time I 505 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 5: can't remember it was last year the year before where 506 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 5: it was kind of kind of in the pandemic area 507 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 5: that there weren't enough chickens because they had some diseases 508 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 5: and something like that. 509 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 6: So there's the price of chicken wings were higher. 510 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, that flew. It's a real thing. I have to 511 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 3: have a confession. 512 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 7: Hummus wings. 513 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 3: I don't like chicken wing. I like the sauces on 514 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 3: chicken wings. 515 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 7: Okay, just. 516 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 11: Doesn't somebody has. 517 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 10: Somebody's having both our wings because four wings per person 518 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 10: is my modeling. 519 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 6: Very good, all right, Jill, thank you so much for 520 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 6: joining us. Really appreciate it. 521 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 5: Jill Blanchard, president of Enterprise Client Solutions. The name of 522 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 5: the firm is Advantage Solutions. We're learning so much, aren't we, John. 523 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 3: I know, and I'm just like pouring it out. 524 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 7: We know not to go to her house party or 525 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 7: bring our own. I think bake. 526 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 2: I bake with like real fat and stuff, okay, but 527 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 2: no sugar, with real sugar. Like I actually tried to 528 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 2: bake without sugar and do like some big paste instead. 529 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 3: It didn't work out. So I cook with lard and 530 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 3: with you know, I'll bring something in and it'll be 531 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 3: a nice moment for us. 532 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 6: All right, Well, be looking forward to that. 533 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Bloomberg Intelligence podcast. Catch us live 534 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: weekdays at ten am Eastern on Apple car Play and 535 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: Android Auto with the Bloomberg Business. You can also listen 536 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: live on Amazon Alexi from our flagship New York station, 537 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: Just Say Alexa playing Bloomberg eleven thirty. 538 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 6: All right, it is Super Bowl Sunday. 539 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 5: We cover the story from the business perspective. And you 540 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 5: know why we do that because we have a podcast, 541 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 5: Business of Sports, hosted by the Scarlett Foo of Bloomberg News, 542 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 5: Michael Barr and Damien sasas Hower. Damien Sasawa Bloomberg Intelligence. 543 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 5: Michael bar Bloomberg News as well. Michael Barr and Damien 544 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 5: Sashira join us here in the studio. 545 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 3: I mean this, hold on, this is my first moment 546 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 3: with Michael Barr. 547 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 6: Ever, Oh really, yeah real, this is. 548 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 3: Michael Barr talking is my most favorite thing. 549 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 6: There you go, this is. 550 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 3: This feels really exciting for me. 551 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 9: Damien. 552 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 6: How big is the business of the Super Bowl. 553 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 9: It's only as big as Michael Barr's voice will allow 554 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 9: it to be Man. That baritone voice. It draws in 555 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 9: all the greatest guests. We had on our show this week, 556 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 9: the presidents for the San Francisco forty nine ers and 557 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 9: the Kansas City Chiefs, and we had the CEO of 558 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 9: bet MGM. 559 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 8: You know what. 560 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 9: They all said, It's gonna be a huge super Bowl. 561 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 9: I'm talking like the mount bet. The mount being bet 562 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 9: on this super Bowl is going to be something on 563 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 9: the order of twenty four billion dollars. That's a thirty 564 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 9: three percent increase over last year alone, Isn't that right? 565 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 9: Michael Buber? 566 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 12: And they're betting on everything, the color of the gatorade, 567 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 12: the length of the national anthem, how many Yeah, but 568 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 12: you got to see how many times Taylor Swift is 569 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 12: going to be on TV? 570 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 2: I mean, no, you can bet on everything, can't you 571 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 2: bet somewhere about if Taylor's foot will cry like. 572 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 3: It's is that legal or not? 573 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 9: The tear has to drip below the halfway point of 574 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 9: her cheek? And no, I'm kidding. I don't know how 575 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 9: do you say? How can you tell? 576 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 5: But I think there are prop bets like that, yeah, 577 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 5: called prop bets, and the prop bets are on you 578 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 5: can find them in any sports book. 579 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 6: You can find them at the online online gambling. 580 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 9: Absolutely fangual, DraftKings bet, MGM, Caesars, you name it, they're 581 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 9: all carrying it. But I think most of their prop 582 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 9: bets are the ones that you find are related to 583 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 9: the actual outcome of the game. Some of the things 584 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 9: we're talking about are I think you have to bet 585 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 9: through it. Oh yeah, like some Panamanian you know, website 586 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 9: that will take your bet and never pay you out. No, 587 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 9: I'm just kidding, but I mean, look they've got I mean, 588 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 9: the real story this year is going to be the 589 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 9: comeback for advertising, right because you know, we don't have 590 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,719 Speaker 9: cryptocurrencies anymore, you know, you know, apparently the biggest sector 591 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 9: that's going to be kind of you know, advertising during 592 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 9: this Super but at least in terms of an increase, 593 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 9: is going to be candy, sweets and cookies. Oreo, you 594 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 9: know you're very interested in them. 595 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 12: I want to see that I missed the Clydesdale the Budweiser. 596 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 12: They to me, they have always had the most iconic 597 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 12: commercials and I want to see that. By the way, 598 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 12: just a heads up, Uh, they're also a bet if 599 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 12: Travis Kelcey will propose to Taylor Swift. Oh they went. 600 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 12: And then there's a little I think the chapel or 601 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 12: the flowers or whatever it is on the strip says, look, 602 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 12: if they do it, you can come in for free 603 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 12: for the wedding. And then they said, well, you know, 604 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 12: if you pass anybody named Travis and Taylor coming in, 605 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 12: you'll get a free wedding. 606 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,959 Speaker 5: What are the experts saying about the game? I mean, 607 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 5: it's only one and a half point spread, so. 608 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 6: I guess everybody's expecting to be a competitive game. 609 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 9: Well, I mean, I think from that perspective, you know, 610 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 9: it comes down to defense. But you know, both defenses 611 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 9: are overshadowed by their incredible offenses this year, so it's 612 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 9: difficult to tell. I think, you know, it's very difficult. 613 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 9: Even though the Chiefs are getting a point and a 614 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 9: half call to two points. I mean, to bet against 615 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 9: Patrick Mahomes and I mean to actually get points and 616 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 9: do it's pretty unbelievable. I mean, I think, I think, really, 617 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 9: you know, it's about you know, stopping it's going to 618 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 9: be about stopping you know, the San Francisco run game. 619 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 9: I mean, if they can manage to stop that run 620 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 9: game and forced Brock pretty to pass. I think the 621 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 9: forty nine ers have a legitimate chancer, Alex. I'm sorry, Kenny. 622 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 12: I talked to me one day, little Birdie in the 623 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 12: degenerate newsman's ear forty seven and a half, the last 624 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 12: time I had seen the over and under. And we 625 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 12: also had an interview with Amy Transk who is within 626 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 12: the front office with the then Oakland Raiders. And I 627 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 12: thought this was going to be a high scoring, high 628 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 12: faluting game. No, she said, this is going to be 629 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 12: a defense of struggles, so don't be surprised if it 630 00:28:58,520 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 12: goes under. 631 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 2: So, Scarlett fo and I are very similar, Okay, we're 632 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 2: kind of both really anal. 633 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 3: We like prepping. 634 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 2: We have a similar taste in most everything except for 635 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 2: sports because I know nothing about So let's pretend to 636 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 2: go to a Super Bowl party. 637 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 3: Okay, and I have to say smart things. What am 638 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 3: I saying? 639 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:18,719 Speaker 9: You want me to take this one on, Michael Bla. 640 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 9: You want to here's what you want to talk about. 641 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 9: You want to talk about Halo Glow, liquid filter else 642 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 9: and is going to take over during some of the commercials. 643 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 9: I think also this is an important point. You know, 644 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 9: Paul and I were talking about this the female audience, 645 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 9: not just due to Taylor Swift, but just generally speaking. 646 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 9: For the Super Bowl last year alone was forty seven 647 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 9: percent female. Now you've got Taylor's swift. So you have 648 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 9: advertisers me does Yeah, you're talking to you, Alex. They 649 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 9: want I mean they want you to, you know, basically 650 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 9: buy the ice Cript brand, you know, drumstick. 651 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 3: You know. 652 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 9: They want you to shop at Etsy and eat Link chocolates, 653 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 9: you know, like Kelsey's wife does. I don't know, so, 654 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 9: I mean people do that. I mean, that's that's kind 655 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 9: of what they want from you. 656 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 12: I know we're running out of time soon, but I 657 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 12: just to get pump up for this. I had to 658 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 12: watch some old clips of the San Francisco forty nine ers, 659 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 12: and this was on the old Monday Night Football. This 660 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 12: is nineteen seventy six. I don't want to give away 661 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 12: my age that I was twelve years old, man, but 662 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 12: I just did. 663 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 8: And here it is. 664 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 12: Here's Alex Karis in the opening and he's smoking a 665 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 12: cigar as he's talking to Howard Cosell, And I'm like, 666 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 12: oh man, what happened to this era? 667 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 8: Man? 668 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 12: This is great. 669 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: Now. 670 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 5: Sportico dot Com, which is some Bloomberg News alumni. They 671 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 5: have a good story out party, the CE the QB 672 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 5: for San Francisco. 673 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 6: He may be the cheapest yes to ever absolutly. 674 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 3: Now right, but for now, for now, exactly right, wait 675 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 3: tomorrow Monday. 676 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 9: They're not paying well. I mean, I mean, let's I mean, 677 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 9: I mean, that's a great stand. I mean, let's just 678 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 9: think about the numbers. Mahomes makes thirty six million dollars, 679 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 9: He's seventeen percent of Kansas City salary cap. Rock Party 680 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 9: is only zero point three seven percent of the forty 681 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 9: nine er salary cap. 682 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 12: What an investment, mister irrelevant? I mean, that's to me, 683 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 12: that is the biggest story of this one. Pick he 684 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 12: was the last one pick. 685 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 9: Really good. 686 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 12: That's what you go. 687 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 7: You take to the party. 688 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 9: Now, Paul Sweeney, some trivia for you. Who was the 689 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 9: previous cheapest quarterback to play in the Super Bowl and win? Oh, 690 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 9: it's a good one. It's an easy one. It's right 691 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 9: there in front of you. Oh, Tom Brady two thousand 692 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 9: and two, right, Yeah, that of the year zero point 693 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 9: four to six percent of the salary. That was his 694 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 9: first year when the Jets knocked out Bledsoe And. 695 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 6: All right, so you guys are the experts. Michael Barr, 696 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 6: what is your pick here? 697 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 12: I am pick because my wife is listening and is 698 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 12: a die hard forty nine ers fan. Would I think 699 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 12: it's going to be San Francisco twenty one and I 700 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 12: think it's going to be the Chief seventeen? 701 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 9: Caressing Okay, I mean, I look, I'm going to be 702 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 9: rooting for San Francisco. But if I were a betting man, 703 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 9: I would not be betting against Andy Reid and Patrick 704 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 9: Mahomes and the Kansas City Chief. So I'd probably take 705 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 9: the points and probably take the over there, maybe parlayed 706 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 9: a little bit. Maybe you know a player. 707 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 6: Are you going to have a little app on your 708 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 6: phone that will allow you to do just then? 709 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 9: I mean, I don't gamble, Paul. You know, I'm an investor. 710 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 9: I am a risk adjustin investor. You me emerging markets, 711 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 9: fixed incomes. Say, you know, I'm not really a big gambler, 712 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 9: but I'm sure I'll get a box or two at 713 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 9: the Super Bowl party on Sunday. 714 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 12: I have to go to your app if you want 715 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 12: to make this bet. 716 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 6: We got a market here, We got it right in 717 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 6: front of us. 718 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 9: He's still upset because he's still upset because they beat 719 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 9: him in fantasy and he beat the stew out of here. 720 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 5: All right, folks, check out the podcast Business of Sports, 721 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 5: hosted by Scarlett flu Bloomberg Television, Michael Barr Bloomberg News, 722 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 5: and Damon Sasa our Bloomberg Intelligence. 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