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Speaker 1: Welcome to our Draft reaction show presented by Kreshtron, John

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Speaker 1: Schmunk Paul Theatino with you. We don't have a pick

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Speaker 1: to react to yet on this Saturday of the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that shortly.

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Speaker 1: The Giants select here, Paul, at pick number one oh

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Speaker 1: five in round number four, so it's just two selections,

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Speaker 1: much like they pick third overall in the first round.

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Speaker 1: The fourth round mimics round number one. Yes, so they

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Speaker 1: picked third in this round of the draft. We're here

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Speaker 1: in the Hackensack and Meridian Health podcast studio.

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Speaker 2: Keep getting better, Paul.

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Speaker 1: The Giants have walked away with Abdul Carter, the i'll

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Speaker 1: say top edge rusher in this draft class, Jackson Dart

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Speaker 1: one of those quarterbacks in that tier after cam Ward.

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Speaker 1: And then in round number three they get Darius Alexander,

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Speaker 1: a player that a lot of people had going in

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Speaker 1: round number two. We get to the Giants in a

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Speaker 1: round three a good value picked there, a long rangey, athletic,

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Speaker 1: big three technique defensive tackle out of Toledo. So we

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Speaker 1: get here in round number four, and we've talked about

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Speaker 1: the Giants needs. They've certainly addressed the defensive front. I

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Speaker 1: don't think they're going back into that bucket over the

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Speaker 1: course of the rest of this draft. I would by

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Speaker 1: that maybe a plugger at some point if you want,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think you have to. So we're talking

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Speaker 1: now offensive line or some type of weapon on offense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. John. To me, you still have

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Speaker 3: to address the offensive line trenches and get another shot there.

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Speaker 3: But running back has got to be a consideration. I

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Speaker 3: would think right now we're talking about the juice of

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Speaker 3: that running back class right here. I think this is

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Speaker 3: a good spot for it.

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Speaker 1: I'll say this, Paul, I think running backs in the

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Speaker 1: equation just because of how good the players are like

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Speaker 1: to be. The Jacks went the war next year at

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Speaker 1: Singletary and Tracy, they be fine. But the thing is

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Speaker 1: that that's where the strength of the class is right now.

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Speaker 3: No question, it's the heart of the running back course.

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Speaker 3: So I think you're looking at running back, you're probably

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Speaker 3: looking at a consideration of an offensive lineman. And then

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Speaker 3: I think the other consideration may still be cornerback. And

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying that it's a heavy consideration, but I

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Speaker 3: think it's going to be on Joe Shane's mind because

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Speaker 3: the GM just told us a week or so ago

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Speaker 3: that he thought there were, you know, latter day cornerback

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Speaker 3: prospects who could enhance the depth of your team. We

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Speaker 3: know the Giants have had injury trouble at cornerback for years,

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Speaker 3: So are they going to keep an eye on the corners? Yes,

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Speaker 3: they will, sure, But I do agree with you. I

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Speaker 3: think right now, if you still want to get an

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Speaker 3: offensive lineman who can compete for a job, you're running

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Speaker 3: out of time very quickly, right you are. If you're

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Speaker 3: looking for a running back who can be part of

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Speaker 3: a rotation, this is a perfect spot to get one.

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Speaker 3: And again, if you're looking for a corner who's only

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Speaker 3: going to be a depth piece, you could probably even

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Speaker 3: wait around because they're kind of flatlined at this point.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that there's much of a difference between

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Speaker 3: the backup grades of the guys who are still on

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Speaker 3: the board.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, I think you also look at this

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Speaker 1: offseason as a whole, Paul, coming off of a year

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Speaker 1: where the Giants two years, to be quite frank with,

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Speaker 1: the Giants have not just scored enough points, they have

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Speaker 1: not scored points even with the addition of the league neighbors.

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Speaker 1: Last year, they did not score enough points. Really, the

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Speaker 1: only additions besides some depth of offensive tackle that they've

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Speaker 1: They have not added one weapon really at running back,

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Speaker 1: wide receiver, or tight end. So if you're going to

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Speaker 1: try to score more points this year at whichever position

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Speaker 1: you want a pinpoint to try to add a player at,

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Speaker 1: you could always use more speed, explosion, big plays to

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Speaker 1: go after players at those spots to help you at

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Speaker 1: And look, the defense needed help too. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: they did the wrong thing, but giving this offense a

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Speaker 2: Bad thing either.

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Speaker 3: No, not at all. I mean, look, there were still four, four, five, six,

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Speaker 3: Giants do not have a sixth round choice, but they

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Speaker 3: do have two in the seventh. Again, I know that's

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Speaker 3: on the back end, so there's less significance to those,

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Speaker 3: but they've got picks here, and the fourth round and

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Speaker 3: There's a chance given the depth and the depth of

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Speaker 3: the draft and the thin spots on your roster. We

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Speaker 3: just mentioned the three areas of concern where I think

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Speaker 3: they could get guys who may earn snaps as rookies.

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Speaker 3: It's possible lesser at corner than the other two spots,

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Speaker 3: but but it could happen. I mean, heck, we also

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Speaker 3: know the Giants O line constantly gets hurt too, and

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Speaker 3: they're going through those guys like like pancakes at a

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Speaker 3: breakfast See, I'm gonna I'm not gonna use the name

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Speaker 3: at a breakfast place. Very good.

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Speaker 2: We're making progress.

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Speaker 1: And this is when your mind's half shot on day

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Speaker 1: three of the draft and actually pretty impressed. There you go,

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Speaker 1: So you have the Titans, then you have the Browns,

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Speaker 1: then you have the Giants. The Titans. It doesn't look

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Speaker 1: like the pick is in yet, that that is not

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Speaker 1: that goes as we move forward here, as the Giants

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Speaker 1: are getting ready to pick. All right, so let's go

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Speaker 1: through some names here, Paul, Yeah, Zoe, so fans can

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Speaker 1: can talk about exactly who we're looking at here. Okay,

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Speaker 1: at running back, The top running back I've left on

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Speaker 1: my board is camp Scattabow. In fact, he is only

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Speaker 1: one of two players with a second round grade that

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Speaker 1: I have in that next tier Dylan Samson and Damian Martinez.

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Speaker 1: good picks here. If you're looking for more of your

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Speaker 1: you're looking for more of your maller, it would be

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Speaker 1: think any one of those three picks or players would

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I would add Oli Gordon that to that place.

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Speaker 3: The Oklahoma State guy, I know there have been some

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Speaker 2: I have him Moore as a round four guy, but yes,

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Speaker 2: he is a banger.

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Speaker 3: He qualifies as a banger. And you know Trevor at

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Speaker 1: You think so.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know why, because he's low, he's slow. Center

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Speaker 3: He gets low and he's got some MCE to him,

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Speaker 3: so he's kind of in that category. I'm not necessarily there.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, I'm definitely scatter both though I

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know he's I wouldn't consider him a banger,

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Speaker 1: but Devin Neil is a between the packles two hundred

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Speaker 2: He's a good player.

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Speaker 3: He does some of it.

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Speaker 1: Jordan James runs with force even though he's a smaller guy.

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Speaker 1: And then if you're looking again, you're looking I already

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Speaker 1: Those are the guys that you can keep an eye

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Speaker 2: All right, let's jump over to wide.

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Speaker 1: Receiver than Paul. Where we've had let's say one, two, three, four.

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Speaker 1: We've had six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven receivers go

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Speaker 1: But they're both big and super athletics, so they will

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Speaker 1: have an upside. So the receivers I have leftier Paul.

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Speaker 1: If you're looking for more of a speed, stir, quick,

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Speaker 1: all around wide receiver, I think he'd be Jalen Royals.

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Speaker 2: He's the next guy for me.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 1: If you're looking for two bigger wide receivers that I

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Speaker 1: but he's also a pretty good athlete. So those would

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Speaker 3: Did you you mentioned Royals a second ago?

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Speaker 2: He was the first guy I mentioned.

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Speaker 3: Here's here's what I wrote down for him, though I'm

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Speaker 3: not so sure if I wouldn't play him in the slot.

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Speaker 3: And so, you know, the question becomes, are you looking

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Speaker 3: want somebody who you think is strictly a boundary guy? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: You know, and that's that was my only question about Royals.

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Speaker 1: See, I'm trying to think ahead here a little bit.

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Speaker 1: As Wanda Rominson hits the end of his contract. Are

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Speaker 1: you looking for a guy that you can play in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's an interesting thought. That's a very interesting a.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, who knows. Tomorrow the Giants get signed to a

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Speaker 1: contract extension. I look like an idiot. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what their plans are in that regard, but just thinking

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Speaker 1: Neighbors is obviously here for the long term. Hyatt is

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Speaker 1: where they go in that way.

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Speaker 3: Well, I owe my noors six to two okay, And

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Speaker 3: and you know, I wrote down physical instincts and Jukes

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Speaker 3: doesn't have that extra burst though, and and that's you

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Speaker 3: know again, it comes down to what flavor are you

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Speaker 1: He's more of a linear wide receiver to me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so anyway, but I didn't have I that's it.

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Speaker 3: I only did the twelve wide receivers.

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Speaker 1: I really I really like Tory Horton, I think, and

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Speaker 1: and by the way, Isaiah bonds in this mix too.

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Speaker 2: But given the off the field.

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Speaker 1: Stuff down there, yeah, I'm not going to go there.

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Speaker 2: I decided to go there.

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Speaker 1: Oh and a wide receiver goes but not one of

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Speaker 1: the ones we talked about. I think it's a time.

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Speaker 1: I believe Dyke out of Florida, I do not know

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Speaker 1: he was one of these guys that he's six foot,

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Speaker 1: one hundred ninety six pounds. His testing at the NFL

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Speaker 1: Combine it says four to three four off the charts.

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Speaker 3: Well, typically when you see some of these spectacular numbers

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I did not do a full write up on him.

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Speaker 1: Offensive line, real fast, all gonna go fast, all right?

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Speaker 1: Offensive line? Marcus Mbo is really the guy that stands

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Speaker 3: You don't like Miles Frasier, then, oh you know what.

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Speaker 2: Guy for me.

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Speaker 1: I would have him below Mboo on my yea on

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Speaker 3: Flexibility, Fraser strictly your guard. I would not put him

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Speaker 3: a tackle, yes, but he plays very very angry, comes

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Speaker 3: Now you saw him at the Senior Bowl, didn't you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, I think he's he's a stiffer guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but guard, tackle, flexibility and they worked him out

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Speaker 3: at center at the Senior Bowl, which kind of intrigues

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Speaker 1: I think he's more of Yeah, I agree, I would

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Speaker 3: I would think this pick.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: I think you would be in the conversation at this pick.

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Speaker 1: I'm absolutely with you on that. And then finally, tight end,

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Speaker 2: And then I think if you're looking for more of

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Speaker 1: End, Mitchell Evans at a Notre Dame, would would would

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Speaker 1: are not a fan of Luke Luche not this high? Okay,

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Speaker 3: The injury history is a big deal, There's no question

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Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what, pull most of the corners.

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Speaker 3: And Gotchin's the other guy from Q's I would possibly

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Speaker 1: Wanted to talk Quincy Riley at corner would probably be

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Speaker 3: At the spot.

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Speaker 1: A little bit after the pick, I'm gonna have to

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Speaker 4: Well, hey, good good morning, I guess guys, or good

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Speaker 4: afternoon now since we're past nude boy, I was, I

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Speaker 3: There was.

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Speaker 1: It was right right at the end of round two, right.

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Speaker 5: Nine pick I went out for Collins when I was

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Speaker 5: really yeah, I know, I know, but I'm happy, you know,

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Speaker 4: And you know, I think the objective should be having

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Speaker 4: maybe we're four or five right now, so would not

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Speaker 4: And the reason why I say that, I mean, I

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Speaker 4: One thing Dallas has shown is that they will not

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Speaker 4: very quietly, Washington sent a tremendous job of rebuilding their line.

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Speaker 4: I didn't think Sam Cosmy would be a great player,

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Speaker 4: Jeremy Towns the kids, the kid they drafted out of

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Speaker 4: we got the problem that we have three what's looking

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Speaker 4: like three very strong offensive lines, and I'd like the

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Speaker 4: Giants d line to be the type of d line

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Speaker 4: that can play well against really good offensive lines, not

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Speaker 4: just make hay against mediocres of our offensive like it's

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Speaker 4: a requirement of the NFC East.

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Speaker 3: Well, you remember, now, for the last two months, I've

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Speaker 3: been saying to John, I'd have no trouble taking two

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Speaker 1: I was all on board with that.

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Speaker 3: Now here's the problem, right The problem for me right

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Speaker 3: now is that you still need to address I think

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Speaker 3: the power running back and this is the sweet spot

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Speaker 4: I agree with that, So.

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Speaker 3: I'd have to push off the DT behind that priority.

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Speaker 3: I probably again it's getting fit at the offensive line.

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Speaker 3: If you want someone who's really got anything left, you're

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Speaker 3: your point. I just don't know thank you to address it,

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Speaker 3: you know, especially since they lost the draft pick in

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Speaker 1: So Bachelle Tune went to the Jaguars at pick two

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Speaker 1: that was in the Browns trade, and now the Giants

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Speaker 2: Brand is not gonna like Victor talk, is he.

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Speaker 1: I think he's just gonna keep going pretty much?

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Speaker 3: Is that what we're looking at it. We're never gonna

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Speaker 3: get to Brandon's got the.

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Speaker 2: Victor's going now. He's doing this also with a bunch

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Speaker 1: It's great, but the Giants pick is in and Paul,

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Speaker 1: I think you might be happy here the Giants, and

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be happy too, because I think think both

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Speaker 1: is Skev's skataboo. The running back out of Arizona State. Whoa,

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Speaker 1: you have your power running back. Let me give my

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Speaker 1: a minute and then you can come back here. Awesome balance,

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Speaker 1: plays with a low center of gravity, runs with power,

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Speaker 1: has a quick drump cut breaks second best tackle breaker

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Speaker 1: ran in the four sixes, right, whatever, that's fine. He also,

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Speaker 1: He can catch the football too, so to me he

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Speaker 1: is a and look Tyron Tracy is awesome.

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Speaker 2: I love Tyron Tracy. He's still gonna be a big

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Speaker 1: But if they needed Scataboo too, he could be in

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Speaker 1: every legit, every down back in the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: So I think they got a really nice combo now

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Speaker 2: So I think it's great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is such a great fit. And the thing

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Speaker 3: this force of nature. You get him out there against

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Speaker 3: and he gets up some steam, They're not gonna be real,

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Speaker 3: real happy or anxious to take him down. This guy

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Speaker 3: of guy who can electrify your lineup, your bench, your huddle,

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Speaker 3: to bludgeon your opponent into submission. He's also the guy

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Speaker 3: who will light that stick of dynamite under your offense

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Speaker 3: and even your whole roster, much like Brandon Jacobs did.

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Speaker 3: He is an emotionally charged, impact kind of guy who's

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Speaker 3: presence will draw out better things in his teammates. It's

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Speaker 3: he brings as a complete package. So, yes, got to

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Speaker 1: I think you have to be. And he's a good player.

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Speaker 1: I had a second round great on him. I think

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Speaker 1: can do it all. Except again, he doesn't have the

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Speaker 1: and not great jukes. He's not gonna like dancing juke

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Speaker 1: you either, No, I know. But he can make people

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Speaker 3: He can make people miss, but not with the kind

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Speaker 3: of jukes we're talking about. He's not a Scot back

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Speaker 1: So he's not a Scot that he is, But he

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Speaker 1: can make people miss. He'd rather hurt people. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: he he is the second highest. He is the second

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Speaker 1: most broken tackles in college football last year, set to genty.

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Speaker 1: So he is not just a run into people and

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Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no no no. He would run

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Speaker 1: You can't tackle him.

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Speaker 3: You just can't. So, Hey, great pick, great pick. Wow.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get reactions to the fans to one.

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Speaker 6: Hey James, Hey, what's going on? Guys?

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Speaker 7: Thanks for taking my car. Y'all doing a great job.

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Speaker 3: What's up?

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Speaker 7: I really appreciate it. Uh yeah, the Giants stole my

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Speaker 7: thunder with picking camp Scatiboy before y'all could bring me on.

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Speaker 7: And I say, you know what, I think they should

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Speaker 7: choose the scataboo right here. But I know, uh, y'all,

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Speaker 7: I think John, you had him on your board.

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Speaker 6: Now about that about.

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Speaker 7: Sampson because he was uh you know, watching TV broadcast.

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Speaker 7: Daniel Jeremiah still had him on his board. But uh,

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Speaker 7: the Giants are doing a great job. How many picks

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Speaker 7: do we have left?

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Speaker 8: Three?

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Speaker 2: Yes, one in the fifth and the seventh correct?

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Speaker 6: Okay?

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Speaker 7: And uh like I was saying, uh, yesterday's gonna bring

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Speaker 7: it up just because you know, I know, I tweeted

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Speaker 7: y'all in the fifth round or later. There's no risk

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Speaker 7: at choosing to do or saying, get to have another

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Speaker 7: quarterback in the room. And I would keep four quarterbacks

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Speaker 7: and figure out the fifty three man roster because you

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Speaker 7: only have the other two on your on your year

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Speaker 7: for this year, and when Will Winston's gonna be your

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Speaker 7: back up and you can release them after next year

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Speaker 7: if you think you're good to go with the two

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Speaker 7: rookie that you got, and they did kind of just

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Speaker 7: make James.

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Speaker 1: James, James, James James James, stop enough. I'm tired of

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Speaker 1: hearing about your Sanders. I'm done with it. He hasn't

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Speaker 1: gone in the draft. I get it. I feel bad

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Speaker 1: for him. I hope he gets picked in those two

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Speaker 1: good teams.

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Speaker 7: It's not happening, right, But what like you know, how

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Speaker 7: like I was gonna man yesterday when r G three

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Speaker 7: and Kirk Cousin both went. I mean, there's not It's

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Speaker 7: not unheard of that you can pick two quarterbacks in.

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Speaker 6: The same draft.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I understand it's not.

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Speaker 7: You know, it's not like an illegal move here. But

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Speaker 7: the guy that put up four thousand yards had the

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Speaker 7: highest completion percentage, albeit a lot of it screams and stuff.

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Speaker 7: You're not asking them to start tomorrow or next year?

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Speaker 1: Well, real quick, James, and and then and then were

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Speaker 1: and then we're gonna drop this. But real, there's not

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Speaker 1: a real, real question for you if should or Standers

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Speaker 1: comes here? When when the when Washington drafted r G

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Speaker 1: three and Kirk Cousins, was there any question with the

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Speaker 1: fan base who the starting quarterback between those two.

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Speaker 2: Guys, was.

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Speaker 1: No, No, if you do stand and then let me finish.

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Speaker 1: If you do Standers got started, got got drafted by

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Speaker 1: the Giants, would there not be half the fan base

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Speaker 1: that is screaming for one guy and half the fan

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Speaker 1: base that's screaming for the other.

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Speaker 7: So just like, let the best man win, who's gonna win?

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Speaker 9: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: You gotta let it play out.

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Speaker 1: I know, but that does not always play into this.

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Speaker 1: But James, that is not healthy for the quarterback position.

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Speaker 1: You want to have a guy that the team do.

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Speaker 1: You want to split locker room and half the locker

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Speaker 1: room wanting one guy is a starter and half the

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Speaker 1: locker room one the other guy.

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Speaker 3: You're letting your own personal emotions kind of guide your

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Speaker 3: words here, do yourself a favor and just kind of

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Speaker 3: put that to the side and understand that from a

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Speaker 3: football and business perspective, it does not make any sense.

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Speaker 1: James. If he was playing a different position, you'd be right,

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Speaker 1: you pick the best player, but at the quarterback position,

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Speaker 1: it would open up such a can of worms of

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Speaker 1: conflict within the locker room and the team, where I

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Speaker 1: just I think it would be more counterproductive than what

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Speaker 1: you're giving you credit for. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: But I also think that you still have to one,

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Speaker 7: we're going with Russell Wilson this year, that's already been aside,

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Speaker 7: and then we have a quarterback.

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Speaker 10: What's wrong with a quarterback competition?

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Speaker 1: I just explained to you what's wrong with the quarterback competition.

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Speaker 3: It's going to cause unbelievable distraction. You don't want to

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Speaker 3: do that to yourself.

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Speaker 1: And again you're in James. The problem is that you're

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Speaker 1: going to split the locker room. I don't care about

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Speaker 1: the fans. You don't want the locker room to split

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Speaker 1: on who you want to play.

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Speaker 7: You think, well, I think we have veteran leaderships that

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Speaker 7: that will be in place to say.

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Speaker 1: Hey, James, James, I I appreciate your opinion. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: your opinion, and I and there's and and and.

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Speaker 2: There's validity to it.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the call, thank you, but it's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes okay sometimes, and I appreciate again your perspective and

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Speaker 3: and depending upon what angle you're looking at, you can

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Speaker 3: come up with all kinds of reasons to push forth

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Speaker 3: any kind of idea that you choose. Okay, I understand

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Speaker 3: that you're free to have whatever thoughts you want to have.

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Speaker 3: I'm simply telling you from a foundational perspective, it just

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Speaker 3: doesn't make enough sense. And I will see you later.

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Speaker 3: Enjoy the conversation with the scouts.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, two one nine three nin I didn't say

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Speaker 1: why I was going, but okay, okay, well you know

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Speaker 1: one nine four five one three is our number here

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Speaker 1: on the Giants Draft Reaction show, Paul Tatino with you

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Speaker 1: will get John back in here just a little bit.

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Speaker 3: But in the meantime, we are reviewing Camp Scativo from

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Speaker 3: Arizona State, taken with the Giant's fourth round choice. Uh, Pearson,

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Speaker 3: why don't we go to a coach Marvin and he

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Speaker 3: is next on the program. Coach, very glad you had

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Speaker 3: a chance to call in. We haven't heard from you

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Speaker 3: the first couple of days.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I've been kind of How you doing anyway.

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Speaker 3: Paul, very well? Thank you? How you been.

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Speaker 9: I'm doing. Okay, I've been listening. I've been listening. I'm here.

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Speaker 9: When John come back, tell him, I said, all right, okay,

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Speaker 9: I think this was a good pick. I kind of

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Speaker 9: I kind of yelled out a little bit when his

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Speaker 9: name came up. It was Scatabool's name came up. They

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Speaker 9: did an excellent job in this draft, as they did

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Speaker 9: last year. I thought about the offensive guards.

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Speaker 3: But is it Membo Membo Purdue? Correct?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I thought about him. If they could have it,

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Speaker 9: would they want to go down in the trenches like

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Speaker 9: you always say, and I can I agree with you.

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Speaker 9: You know you winning in those trenches if they would.

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Speaker 6: Have went that way.

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Speaker 9: But it was a few guys I did like the

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Speaker 9: receiver side got a boo. There was a few guys

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Speaker 9: still on the board that they can get. So they

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Speaker 9: did a good job. I'm impressed with what they did.

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Speaker 9: As far as the guy that was just calling uh,

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Speaker 9: I just let the encourage him. You're not gonna change

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Speaker 9: his mind. No, your door. I loved your door. He

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Speaker 9: was you wasn't in on last Wednesday, and I was

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Speaker 9: looking for you last month. But I talked to John,

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Speaker 9: and what I thought they were gonna do. They weren't

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Speaker 9: gonna take him at three, but I said that some way, somehow,

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Speaker 9: I feel they're going to go back and get your door.

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Speaker 9: They did go back and get a quarterback, but it

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Speaker 9: wasn't your door. So my heart broken for him. But

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Speaker 9: it's done. As far as the Giants, he's not coming here.

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Speaker 9: And you guys are totally right. I mean, I was

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Speaker 9: on a coaching young kids that's volunteering to come play,

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Speaker 9: they pay to come play, and they think they can

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Speaker 9: play quarterbacks. And what happens if I got two of them?

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Speaker 9: It's just a big problem coaching wise. You got him

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Speaker 9: on the sideline. You may even have another coach that, yeah,

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Speaker 9: you think we should put him in. It's just it's controversial.

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Speaker 9: You're divided no matter how you did it, and you

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Speaker 9: can't play this game divide it.

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Speaker 3: They all got to be won, no doubt, coach, no doubt,

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Speaker 3: because no matter what do you think you can rationalize

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Speaker 3: on paper, in real situations, dynamics are often very different

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Speaker 3: than what's on paper.

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Speaker 9: Yes it is, it's definitely different. Even right now I'm

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Speaker 9: looking at it. We look good right now, but I'm

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Speaker 9: not going to get over enthusiastic about it. They got

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Speaker 9: to go out and perform, and they it looks good

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Speaker 9: on paper, but you don't play this game on paper.

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Speaker 9: It's played on the field. So my thing that him

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Speaker 9: is very it's very difficult to have two of those

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Speaker 9: guys on the field and you definitely not the whole

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Speaker 9: locker room would be divided, the whole fan base to

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Speaker 9: be divided. You may even have we have two owners,

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Speaker 9: and those two owners may be divided and who should

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Speaker 9: be played. It just runs right through the organization and

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Speaker 9: you don't want that. And unfortunate for schedule or hope

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Speaker 9: he does get picked up and you know they're doing.

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Speaker 10: A good job.

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Speaker 9: Oh one thing I want to say, I hope mister

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Speaker 9: Mara kind of listened to these My thing is and

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Speaker 9: I can't tell them anything because they've been an excellent family.

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Speaker 9: Might plead to them. Give these guys another two more

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Speaker 9: years to coach this team, regardless of what the rect

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Speaker 9: I just want them to compete. If they compete, I

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Speaker 9: think they're gonna need time to build this team. To

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Speaker 9: give them one year, it's not gonna do it, and

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Speaker 9: then bring a whole new step in. But from one

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Speaker 9: of the fans that appreciated this team, I asked mister

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Speaker 9: Mara and mister Tish, you gotta think about giving them

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Speaker 9: more than one year. I think they need not just

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Speaker 9: this year, two more years on top of this year

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Speaker 9: and then make that decision. What you're gonna do, well.

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Speaker 3: Coach, I think the offseason acquisitions and thanks for the call,

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Speaker 3: Please get back to us again during the course of

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Speaker 3: the week. I think there's no doubt in my mind

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Speaker 3: that between the free agent acquisitions and now these draft picks,

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Speaker 3: and again there were still a couple more to go,

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Speaker 3: for sure, three more to go. Actually, the Giants are

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Speaker 3: an improved team. It's quite clear on paper they are

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Speaker 3: an improved team from last year. And that's the mandate,

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Speaker 3: right The mandate is feel much better about the team

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Speaker 3: at the end of this seas then they did at

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Speaker 3: the end of last season. Well, the arrow is certainly

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Speaker 3: pointing in that direction, and pretty strongly in that direction.

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Speaker 3: How much still remains to be seen, but the odds

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Speaker 3: are pretty good that that's going to happen based on

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Speaker 3: the roster moves that this team has made to this point.

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Speaker 3: Let's go to Maurice and Montclair. You're next on the

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Speaker 3: Giants Draft Reaction Show.

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Speaker 11: Hello, Hey, what's going on, Paul?

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Speaker 3: How are we doing very well? How are you?

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Speaker 11: I'm doing pretty good, man, pretty good.

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Speaker 8: Listen.

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Speaker 11: I love what the team is doing so far. I've

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Speaker 11: had my own a teens, but I'm not going to

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Speaker 11: go there. Congratulations to everybody, especially the guys that we selected.

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Speaker 11: But Paul, I wanted to talk about something specific. Yeah,

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Speaker 11: explain to me. Now, how do you see the Giants

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Speaker 11: linebacking core sort of the atmosphere around it, the projections,

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Speaker 11: what the hope is, who's projected to do what?

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Speaker 10: Because I like what.

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Speaker 11: The team is doing addressing all the other areas. I

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Speaker 11: feel like we've got stronger cornerback.

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Speaker 6: Safety, et cetera.

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Speaker 11: But like, are we just looking at the linebacker position like, Okay,

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Speaker 11: we're good, sort of like we've did with other positions

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Speaker 11: in the past, you know, or are we still looking

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Speaker 11: to add to that? And is there any player available

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Speaker 11: that you deem, you know, worthy to come in and

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Speaker 11: like sit in somehow and possibly be like the main guy.

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Speaker 11: And then I got one more.

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Speaker 8: But I'll take this one.

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Speaker 3: Okay, First of all, are you considering the edge rushers

657
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 3: part of the linebacking corps or are you just talking

658
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 3: about the inside linebackers.

659
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Speaker 11: Yeah, sorry about that, I want to be more specific. Sorry, Yes,

660
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 11: the inside linebackers. You know a lot of these kids

661
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 11: do profile the linebackers, but they're.

662
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Speaker 3: Just edge I know. The nomenclay sure, and the semantics

663
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 3: have changed so much over the years, you know, technically,

664
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Speaker 3: you know, Burns and Thibineo and Carter, they're edge guys.

665
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Speaker 3: Now they're not outside linebackers anymore because we've changed the wording,

666
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 3: so we're gonna go inside linebackers. I believe the Giants

667
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 3: believe that they will get better production out of o'kara

668
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 3: Kea and out of McFadden. And quite honestly, if Carter

669
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Speaker 3: winds up playing some in the two linebackers set inside

670
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 3: in place of McFadden, I think they think right there, okay,

671
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Speaker 3: that they're going to get a tremendous boost in production

672
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Speaker 3: from those guys because of what they've done to enhance

673
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Speaker 3: their defensive line up front. Keeping the laundry off of

674
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Speaker 3: those guys.

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Speaker 1: I think that's number one.

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Speaker 3: That's point number one. Point Number two to add to

677
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Speaker 3: that question is that I think they like Muissau as

678
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Speaker 3: a guy who can be a competent reserve, you know,

679
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Speaker 3: he did play some last year and showed some flashes.

680
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Speaker 3: I think they believe they got some depth in terms of,

681
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Speaker 3: you know, the ability to at least hold the fort

682
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Speaker 3: if they need to go there. Deantay Johnson is still back,

683
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Speaker 3: and you remember when he when he busted up his knee,

684
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 3: you know, was he was looked like it was gonna

685
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Speaker 3: be something, and then he got hurt. And now he's

686
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 3: still on the team to compete. So I think he'll

687
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 3: compete with Muissal, you know, and quite honestly, Chris board

688
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 3: who was signed from the Ravens primarily because he's a

689
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 3: special teams demon, he also has the ability to place

690
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 3: some inside linebacker. So you put that together with the

691
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Speaker 3: fact that the class of inside linebackers is not particularly

692
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Speaker 3: strong or deep, I would suggest that maybe you don't

693
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Speaker 3: see any inside linebackers during the course of the rest

694
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Speaker 3: of the draft.

695
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Speaker 11: Right because the only thing I'm worried about, and I'm

696
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 11: gonna switch gears real quick and I'm gonna take everything

697
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Speaker 11: off there. Sure, the only thing I'm worrying about is,

698
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Speaker 11: you know, God forbid, we all know it comes with

699
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 11: the sport, but injuries because it happens to us, so

700
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Speaker 11: many times once our lead guy goes down and then

701
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Speaker 11: you know there's really not not you know that that

702
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 11: great of an insurance behind him, you know, to.

703
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Speaker 6: To really keep things together.

704
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Speaker 11: But I'll know this one that you bought. Everything that

705
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 11: we've done up front on the D line is amazing.

706
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Speaker 11: I think that's a major upgrade. But hit me with

707
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Speaker 11: this one. What's the thoughts on Elijah Chapman and who's like,

708
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Speaker 11: how is the number is gonna break down? And is

709
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Speaker 11: he even is he on the bubble? Sort of the

710
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 11: what's you know, what's going on with Chapman? Do we

711
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 11: still look at him as you know, I mean one

712
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 11: of these guys that could possibly become like a you know,

713
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Speaker 11: a significant guy in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Well, thanks for the call, Maurice, And the answer is,

715
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Speaker 3: as I said last night, somebody called up with the

716
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 3: very same question. It's competition. You know. The Giants know

717
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 3: that they needed to improve not only just defensively as

718
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Speaker 3: a whole because the secondary gave up a bunch of

719
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 3: big plays. They went and spent some money to do

720
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Speaker 3: that in free agency. But now what have they done here? Okay,

721
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 3: they have now added Carter to the front seven. They've

722
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Speaker 3: added Alexander to the front seven, and that ignores the

723
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Speaker 3: fact that they also signed Goldston in free agency off

724
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Speaker 3: of the Cowboys, a guy who's just now getting into

725
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 3: his prime. So they've added three important pieces. And there

726
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 3: are a couple other guys like Ledbetter and so forth

727
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 3: and so on who I don't know exactly how they're

728
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 3: going to fit. But in terms of the more more

729
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 3: key editions, three guys to the front seven, this is

730
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 3: going to be a dramatically improved defense. I don't see

731
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 3: any other way to explain it other than if injuries

732
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 3: do decimate them, that's always the wild card. But on paper,

733
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 3: this is a dramatically improved defense, not just a little

734
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 3: bit better, a lot better. Now, in terms of Chapman specifically,

735
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 3: Andre Patterson, the Giants defensive line coach, is a huge

736
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 3: fan of his, and we saw how he was able

737
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 3: to get him into the rotation last year as an

738
00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 3: NFL player. Now, what Chapman does for from here in

739
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 3: terms of his improvement during the offseason, whatever it is

740
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 3: that he's doing with his offseason workout program, and then

741
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 3: how does he work out when he gets to spring drills.

742
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 3: How does it play out during the course of the

743
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 3: summer camp. That's all on him. He's going to be

744
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 3: part of a very, very heated competition for the backup

745
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 3: lineman on this team. You got to remember something, there

746
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 3: are some other guys too who are going to be

747
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 3: chopping at the bit and try to take food off

748
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 3: of his plate. And that's just the way it goes.

749
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 3: We know Riley's here, we know Davidson's still here, Nacho

750
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,280
Speaker 3: is still here. I mean, there's only so many forks

751
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 3: at the dinner table, and these guys are going to

752
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 3: be fighting for every bit of BP's and carrots and

753
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 3: mass potatoes that they can get their hands on, and

754
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 3: so Chapman will have an uphill battle. I don't think

755
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 3: there's any doubt because the competition increased dramatically in that

756
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 3: defensive line room. And if he wins a spot, it

757
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 3: will be well earned. And of course, whoever wins the

758
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 3: spot is to the betterment of the Giants, because the winners,

759
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 3: in theory will improve your football team. Let's go back

760
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,240
Speaker 3: to the calls we have. I believe it is adjacent

761
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 3: in New Haven, Pearson and good morning, You're next on

762
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 3: the Giants Draft Reaction show.

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Speaker 10: Hey for how you doing, Buddy?

764
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Speaker 3: I'm wow, how are you I'm good?

765
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 5: Good?

766
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 10: Uh yeah, I'm loving it so far, man. I mean,

767
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 10: of course, you know, these things have to be played

768
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 10: out on the on the playing field, of course, but

769
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 10: you know, so far, so good. I think Shane's done it.

770
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 10: Think I thought he did a good job last year

771
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 10: in the draft. I think he's had a knockout of

772
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 10: the park rere agency period in the draft so far.

773
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 10: You know, granted these guys.

774
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 9: Pan out, you know.

775
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 10: Uh, I think he's doing a really good job. Cam

776
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 10: was kind of unexpected in my opinion, but he's a

777
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 10: you know, I told you guys, I'm a Longhorns fan.

778
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 10: And watching him play us in that semi final game,

779
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 10: I mean, he pretty much was their offense. It was.

780
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 10: It was pretty impressive, uh seeing the long runs, had

781
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 10: a pretty good defense, and he pretty much gashed him

782
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 10: the whole game, whether it was receiving, running the ball.

783
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 10: I think he threw a pass in the game, if

784
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 10: I'm not mistaken. So, I mean, he's a he's a

785
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 10: real tone setter, in my opinion, Yes, a real opposite

786
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 10: of Now Tracy runs hard too. I don't you know,

787
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 10: he's he's a he's a pretty he runs pretty hard

788
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 10: for his size, but Cam gives us this different dynamic

789
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 10: in the backfield. So you know that running back competition

790
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 10: in the summer is going to be really really interesting,

791
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 10: you know, because Cam and Tracy are making the team.

792
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 10: I would you know, oh yeah, yeah, those two are

793
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 10: making the team. So it's going to be interesting to

794
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 10: see how many running backs we carry. And uh, you know,

795
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 10: and that is concerned Abdul, of course, you know, I

796
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 10: have no complaints with that. The pick of Dark was

797
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 10: at I won't say shocking, you know. I know I've

798
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 10: called and said I was your door fan. I'm not

799
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 10: even gonna go down that path because he's not on

800
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 10: our team, so I'm not even gonna comment on that,

801
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 10: but you know, and you know, good luck to him. Hopefully,

802
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 10: you know, hopefully a team takes a chance on him,

803
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 10: because I think he has talent. But Dark, hey, they

804
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 10: would like him, so that's good enough for me. He

805
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 10: thinks he could work with him, you know, I'm I'm

806
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 10: I'm fine with it. And then the Darius Alexander kid,

807
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 10: and you just mentioned Paul. The the d line is

808
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 10: really shaping up to be a really really nice looking

809
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 10: looking part of our team. From Dex to Kvon to

810
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 10: that dude, to Burns the Ghost and you know, I

811
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 10: know people don't know too much about Letbetter, but he's

812
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 10: a really really I think he'll be the backup nose guard.

813
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 10: He's a real I don't think people realize he's a

814
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 10: really good run defender.

815
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Speaker 6: In the league.

816
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 10: I know he doesn't have like a big name. People

817
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 10: don't know about me right right, the really good two gapper,

818
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 10: you know. So I think he's going to really give

819
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,240
Speaker 10: some good snaps Jason.

820
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,959
Speaker 3: I love the versatility that they've added to the line.

821
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 3: It's not just the talent that they've added, but Goldston

822
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 3: has the ability to be a run setting end or

823
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 3: a three technique, and Alexander, who's primarily a three technique,

824
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 3: could also do some of that. I see. So I

825
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 3: see the additions as not only giving them numbers of

826
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:34,240
Speaker 3: quality players, but the versatility and the opportunity to change

827
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 3: things up depending upon the matchup if you're playing a

828
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 3: power rushing team or not. You might even see guys

829
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 3: with Ford down linemen. You might see Ford down linemen

830
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Speaker 3: this year at times.

831
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Speaker 10: Yeah, and the thing with that duel is he played

832
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 10: off ball line backs. Yes, so you could you can

833
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 10: move him around. You you can spy him for the

834
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 10: likes of Hurts and the young man in Washington and

835
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 10: dak You know, you have a lot of you know,

836
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 10: you have a lot of weapons.

837
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Speaker 6: Qus, you know.

838
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Speaker 10: And I don't want to put the cart before the

839
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 10: horse here because these things have to be played out

840
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 10: in training campst season and in the season. But on

841
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 10: paper we're looking good. And a few more names before

842
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 10: I let you go, because the yeah, sure, the I'm

843
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 10: with the other Cailler. I think I would like to

844
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 10: see another linebacker taking It doesn't have to be the

845
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 10: next pick in the fifth round. But to me, there's

846
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 10: some interesting interesting names. Stutsman from Oklahoma, we got Chris

847
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 10: Paul ole Miss. You know, there's some there's some nice

848
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 10: looking linebackers and also the offensive line. There's some interesting

849
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 10: names available.

850
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 6: You know.

851
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 10: I don't know what the team thinks about them. Of

852
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 10: course I'm not in those rooms. But some guys are

853
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 10: like Cameron Williams and Texas. You got Jack Nelson from Wisconsin,

854
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 10: Holland Pierce from Rock Rutgers, Jalen Travis. You got some

855
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 10: guards in the mixed you know, Marcus Embow, which I'm

856
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 10: surprised he's still on the board.

857
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 3: That's the guy who I think has fallen the most

858
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 3: of the offensive lineman that I watch. I think Miles

859
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 3: Fraser from LSU. I've talked about him a lot. I

860
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 3: like Miles Fraser, but I think this is the sweet

861
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 3: spot for him, and the Giants didn't go there. They

862
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 3: went to the running back, which, as we've discussed, we're

863
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 3: both okay with. But I think this would have been

864
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 3: the sweet spot for Fraser. M Bow I think should

865
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 3: have gone around earlier.

866
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Speaker 10: I don't know why he's still there. Yeah, and one

867
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 10: more name, the the dtack. I wouldn't be opposed, you know,

868
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 10: depending on how the draft balls. With Shane and Dable

869
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 10: and those guys, I wouldn't mind taking another look at it.

870
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 10: You know, I know we only have what three more picks.

871
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 10: If I'm my mistaken, It was kind of tough, but

872
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 10: I went on to my you know, the draft balls

873
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 10: and best player available, I wouldn't mind looking at another

874
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 10: de tackle. There's some good, you know, nose tackles still left,

875
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 10: you know, Cam Jackson of.

876
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 3: Florida, Joshua Farmer, Yeah, you got CJ.

877
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 10: West, I got Ty Hamilton, Jordan Phillips. So there's some

878
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 10: really good names still fessed on this board. So I'll

879
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 10: let you guys go.

880
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 6: But so far, so good.

881
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 10: I have no complaints, and yeah, go Giants, Thank you.

882
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 2: Thank you.

883
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 3: Jason. You know, as we discussed with John a little

884
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 3: bit earlier, and I've said this a number of times

885
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 3: in the last month or so, Pierson can vounch for me.

886
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 3: I was all on board with taking two defensive tackles,

887
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 3: you know, take a plugger, but also take a three

888
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 3: technique penetrator. But that's when they had their full complement

889
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 3: of draft choices. Once they made the trade for darn

890
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 3: and they lost one of the third round picks, that

891
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 3: now lessened the amount of shots you would have at

892
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 3: the cupboard. Once that happened, it kind of changed my priority.

893
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 3: Now it was like, Okay, if they can get a

894
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 3: really high quality defensive tackle prospect, you might just have

895
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 3: to live with one, because you had to have enough

896
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 3: of picks to also go get a legit running back,

897
00:43:56,120 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 3: potentially a competitive offensive lineman, and then also the depth

898
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 3: cornerback guy. And that's where we're kind of at now.

899
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 3: They got the fifth rounder. To me, they're going to

900
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 3: have to figure out with the fifth rounder. Is there

901
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 3: an offensive lineman still worth taking by the middle of

902
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 3: the fifth round who can compete for a job given

903
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,280
Speaker 3: the line that they have right now and the guys

904
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 3: on the depth chart in the room. That's what the

905
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 3: question is going to be for me as to whether

906
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 3: or not. You know, obviously you still want to go

907
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 3: best player available, but if you're going to try to

908
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:36,280
Speaker 3: match up need with value, is the best offensive lineman

909
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 3: at that point able to compete for a job realistically

910
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 3: when you have some other guys still in this room,

911
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 3: right you have Azudu, and you have Kubas. You know,

912
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 3: you have some guys in that room already, young fellas

913
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 3: who they've worked with Carmen Brisillo for a year and

914
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 3: would like to continue their upset and their opportunity to

915
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 3: be in the National Football League. So you kind of

916
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 3: have to grade that, and we're getting real thin now.

917
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 3: I just don't know there's going to be an offensive

918
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 3: lineman at that point that you feel good about. The

919
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 3: other thing is the corner spot. You know, I like

920
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 3: Burke out of Ohio State. He's got really good traits,

921
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 3: a little bit up and down, a little bit inconsistent.

922
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 3: I totally understand that I think though, he's certainly someone

923
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,280
Speaker 3: who you'd want to consider in the fifth round because

924
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 3: I think the value is there based on the pure

925
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 3: toolbox if you were looking to enhance the cornerback spot.

926
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 3: And then excuse me, Dorian Strong out of Virginia Tech

927
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 3: is the other one who I kind of like in

928
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 3: that spot. Potentially really good ball scales physical, he wraps up.

929
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 3: I think that would be another guy you might want

930
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 3: to talk about in the fifth because once you get

931
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 3: past that pick the fifth round, there's no sixth round

932
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 3: choice here, right, They've only got two sevens. After the

933
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 3: fifth round pick, you're not going to get an offensive

934
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 3: lineman in all likelihood who has a chance to compete

935
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,919
Speaker 3: at seven In all likelihood, anything's possible, for sure. Heck,

936
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 3: Richie Cybert was an undrafted rookie free agent. Kubas undrafted

937
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 3: rookie free agent Nick Gates some years a couple of

938
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 3: years ago, a few years ago now, undrafted rookie free agent.

939
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 3: It could still happen. But if you want to get

940
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 3: one of those guys, for sure, you may have to

941
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 3: do it in the fifth the corner you may have

942
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 3: to do it in the fifth. So that's kind of

943
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 3: why to me, I'm not really thinking insidelinebacker. In addition

944
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 3: everything that I just said earlier to the caller Jerome

945
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 3: and Charlotte, you're next on the Giants Draft review show.

946
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 3: How are you doing?

947
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 8: AI?

948
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm my thunder about the draft. I'm loving it.

949
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 6: I think the team is going to be much better

950
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 6: this year. I see playoff possibilities already and it's not

951
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 6: even over with yet. But one I have my biggest

952
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 6: question or concern is, well, Russell Wilson, Okay, if he

953
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 6: leads us to the playoff, is it possible re resign

954
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 6: him and keep that momentum going and see how far

955
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 6: we can go, or you think that he's be one

956
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 6: and done.

957
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 4: Well.

958
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 3: They shigned him to a one year deal for a reason.

959
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 3: It does not include a second year team option, right,

960
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 3: so I think they were being straight with him and said, look,

961
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 3: the way we're looking at this right now, it's in

962
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 3: all likelihood going to be one year, so let's just

963
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 3: commit to the one year. And maybe even Wilson told

964
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 3: the Giants, look, if you guys wind up drafted a

965
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 3: young quarterback, I don't want to be in the same

966
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 3: spot that Kirk Cousins is in. With Atlanta where he

967
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 3: signed a multi year deal, and then they went and

968
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 3: drafted Michael Pennix, And now Cousins feels betrayed and he

969
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 3: wants out of Atlanta because they went and they drafted

970
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 3: a kid.

971
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: So maybe Wilson was.

972
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 3: The one who wanted the one year deal and not

973
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 3: the Giants wanting to give him a one I don't

974
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 3: know the answer to that. I was never in those negotiations.

975
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 3: They took eleven days of negotiations to get that thing signed,

976
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 3: so there must have been a lot of give and

977
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 3: take and different ideas on both sides of that fence

978
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 3: before they came to an agreement. My simple logical answer

979
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 3: to you is that Russell Wilson's going to be thirty

980
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 3: seven by mid season, not fifty seven thirty seven. So

981
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 3: if Russell Wilson has a really good year and the

982
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 3: Giants do something with this season and become a postseason team,

983
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 3: I don't think it's totally out of the question that

984
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 3: they might want to talk to him and ask him

985
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,240
Speaker 3: if he wanted another year. At the same time, Russell

986
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 3: Wilson may say I have now re enhanced my value

987
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 3: to the league because after that slump with Pittsburgh. Maybe

988
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 3: my stock was down a bit, and now if I've

989
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 3: raised it with the Giants, maybe he thinks he can

990
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 3: go somewhere else and get an even better deal. So

991
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 3: I think all doors and possibilities are open. But I

992
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 3: think as we sit here today, you're probably looking at

993
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 3: the odds. Are Wilson is a one year deal? Does

994
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 3: that answer your question?

995
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 6: No, yes it does. I was feeling that, but I

996
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:46,479
Speaker 6: wasn't sure y'all. You know, y'all make me look good

997
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 6: because I take what y'all say and tell her all

998
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 6: my friends and colleagues and other people. It almost seem

999
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 6: like I should be an analyst. But I just repeat

1000
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 6: what y'all i'll say.

1001
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,919
Speaker 1: And do we get any royalties on that time?

1002
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 3: You're a really good fan.

1003
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 6: I'm like, well, you know, I just do my homework

1004
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 6: and steady. You know, I watched stuff. Well mostly I

1005
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 6: just repeat what y'all say, and you know, y'all make

1006
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 6: me look and feel good.

1007
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 3: Well, we we appreciate Not only do we appreciate your listening,

1008
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,439
Speaker 3: we also appreciate you for for for spreading the word

1009
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 3: and UH and calling into the program. So thank you

1010
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 3: so much, And John is back. Did you have a

1011
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:30,879
Speaker 3: good time.

1012
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: That was really really good. I don't know how we're

1013
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: going to use that, and and and when we're going

1014
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: to use it, and hopefully it will get used.

1015
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,280
Speaker 2: But yeah, what what I did was very interesting.

1016
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 3: I'm glad. We will talk about it later. Yes, in

1017
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 3: the meantime, you should know the fan base.

1018
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,720
Speaker 1: It just ate lunch, the barbecue and the cookies.

1019
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 3: Oh so this whole thing was a scam. You just

1020
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 3: wanted piercing and out to starve. Well, you fed your face.

1021
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 2: I was hugly, can I tell you?

1022
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 5: All right?

1023
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: So I have no idea who even went. So we

1024
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: had Coule Woodson, Jack Kaiser, Dante Thornton, Deon Walker went, Okay, yeah,

1025
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: Ty Robinson, CJ. West, Trevor atn went, Cody Simon. Any

1026
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: trade ups here from NFC East teams or anything, all

1027
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: the Eagles.

1028
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:14,240
Speaker 2: You have to Ty Robinson.

1029
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I know that so far. I would say

1030
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 3: you certainly we got some calls on Scatti bow and

1031
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:22,959
Speaker 3: there's positive response for sure.

1032
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 2: Good, That's what I like to hear.

1033
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 1: All Right, let's go to Tony in Arizona, who was

1034
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: up close and personal with Cam Scattaboo this year.

1035
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 6: Yes, Hey, thanks for taking my call.

1036
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 3: Guys, preach Tony tell Us watched.

1037
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 8: I watched this kid play every game. This kid plays

1038
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 8: with heart, he plays with respect. What I like about

1039
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 8: what the Giants have done with this draft is they're

1040
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 8: bringing in a changing mindset and they're really going to

1041
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 8: stamp up the competition in camp with the guys who've

1042
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 8: been there. I mean, this is my own I've been

1043
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 8: a Giant fans in sixty eight when I was a kid.

1044
00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 8: I think Shane took the hit signing uh the the quarterback.

1045
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 8: I think that was Mara that did that. Shane's going

1046
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 8: to take the hit if you look at what Shane

1047
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,320
Speaker 8: has done. Yeah, I didn't want to give up Barkley,

1048
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 8: but what was Barkley going to get twelve hundred yards?

1049
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 6: We don't have a we.

1050
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 8: Didn't have a line. We're getting better at the line.

1051
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 8: We're not going to be able to fill all the

1052
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 8: holes in this draft. We're probably gonna, you know, as

1053
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 8: Paul said, an offensive lineman is not there, which obviously

1054
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 8: I think they took Scataboo because they knew he went last.

1055
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 8: Even though they might have won an offensive lineman. I

1056
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 8: think they're really changing the mindset and dark look Phil Simms.

1057
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 8: One thing about Phil was his accuracy, but he had

1058
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 8: a strong arm and a giant stadium with those crosswinds,

1059
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 8: you need a strong armed quarterback, and I think they

1060
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 8: saw with Jackson Dawet this is a kid from a

1061
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 8: mentality standpoint, a respect standpoint, a talent standpoint. He is

1062
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 8: the type of quarterback that's going to do well and

1063
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,720
Speaker 8: fit in the Gable system. We all know it's about

1064
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 8: the system. If you know, you may do well in

1065
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 8: another place because the system fits better for you as

1066
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 8: a player. So I think the Giants I've taken a

1067
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 8: major step forward here. If they played five hundred this year,

1068
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 8: it's a win. I hope Marred does the right thing

1069
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 8: and gives these two guys contracts because as players, you

1070
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 8: want to know that you have your coach is going

1071
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,240
Speaker 8: to be there, your GM is going to be there.

1072
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 8: This isn't going to, you know, solve all our problems overnight,

1073
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 8: but I think they took a major step in the

1074
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 8: right direction. And I truly appreciate what you guys do.

1075
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 8: I enjoy listening to the show and I feel good

1076
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 8: about the season ahead.

1077
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 1: Thank you, Tony, appreciate the call. Two, one, nine, three,

1078
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 1: nine three. I'm not going to get into the ol

1079
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones resign anything. The ownership would not force the

1080
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:34,959
Speaker 1: GM deside a player he doesn't want him to study.

1081
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: Never just putting that out there and coming off a

1082
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:39,479
Speaker 1: playoff ye, or you're just not going to get.

1083
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 2: Rid of your quarterback. That's just not a realistic situation.

1084
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: We're not going to dive into that whole situation again.

1085
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 2: It was what it was.

1086
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: It didn't work out, and especially quarterback correct. I will

1087
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: say this, the level of like intensity and competitiveness from

1088
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 1: I'm not having been up close with with Alexander, I'm

1089
00:53:58,320 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 1: assuming he has it too. I just don't have a

1090
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: feel for him like I.

1091
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 3: Do the other guy he comes off the tape.

1092
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: But in terms of personality, like Jackson Dark is a competitor,

1093
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 1: Oh yes, Abdul Carter has an edge to him. Just

1094
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 1: walking around the facility, you get to feel that there's

1095
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: always like an intensity to him. And then camp Scataboo,

1096
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: my gosh, the way that dude plays. He just plays

1097
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 1: like a bulldozer where he plays with a force of

1098
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 1: personality and force of will where I really think you

1099
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: did add to some you know, really tough, physical, competitive

1100
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 1: guys with that play with an edge to this roster.

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00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: You know, you don't need that. You don't need everybody

1102
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: in a boy scout. Some guys can be jerks, and

1103
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: that's okay. I'm not saying these guys are jerks, but

1104
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:43,760
Speaker 1: you want the guys playing like that on the field

1105
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 1: where they get under the skin of opponents. These they

1106
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: play with a certain ferocity and a certain energy. That's

1107
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: a good thing.

1108
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 2: I like that.

1109
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 3: Well, on Big Blue Kickoff Live, you have the cut

1110
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 3: from Lawrence Taylor about going play like a bunch of

1111
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 3: crazy way And that's the thing. Like, like you talk

1112
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 3: to these guys, they're all very nice. Like they came

1113
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 3: into our The guys came into our studio and did stuff.

1114
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 3: Darden and Carter, they were awesome. You know we we

1115
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 3: we talked to Skytaboo at the combine. He was like

1116
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:09,439
Speaker 3: a really nice kid.

1117
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: Oh, really nice kid. But when they get on the field,

1118
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,760
Speaker 1: it like a transformation where like these guys are our animals,

1119
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: which is which is good. You like that, and you have.

1120
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 3: To understand for guys who are in that huddle and

1121
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:24,479
Speaker 3: on that sideline who maybe don't have that extra shot

1122
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 3: of adrenaline or that extra spark that day. When they

1123
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 3: see a teammate go out there and do that kind

1124
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 3: of thing, it takes them with him.

1125
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like Dexter. Dexter is a good dude,

1126
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: but he has on the field, he's a killer.

1127
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 3: Yes, and when he makes a play and he does

1128
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 3: his little you know, stomach shake and everything stone shake. Well,

1129
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 3: I guess that's the stomach right. Yes, everybody gets into it.

1130
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:48,359
Speaker 3: It's an inspiring kind of thing.

1131
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 1: Looks like he's kind of like winding something up with

1132
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 1: each other. Yeah, I've never I'm not gonna try to

1133
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: imitate that.

1134
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, no one has anybody ever asked

1135
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 3: him what that's called.

1136
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: No, I don't think we need to do that.

1137
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 2: The sexy DEXI I guess it is, all right, I guess

1138
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 2: that's what it is.

1139
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, we got two more calls. Let's get

1140
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 1: to them.

1141
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 2: Let's go to Richard, Virginia. First. Pierce and rich what's

1142
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 2: going on?

1143
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 6: Hi?

1144
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: John?

1145
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 12: And Gottsard actually in Florida. Now just I concur with

1146
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 12: almost all the callers. I like what JS and Bead

1147
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 12: have done here, But bol I want to go back

1148
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 12: to your comments on the A line. That is exactly

1149
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 12: my concern. JS brought in all these free agents, I think,

1150
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,280
Speaker 12: and you'll probably agree that most of those guys are

1151
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:34,280
Speaker 12: for depth. My concern is, you know what our lousy

1152
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 12: injury history. You know last year at went down and

1153
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 12: Luminora went down. You know he had coop Us in

1154
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:43,280
Speaker 12: there and Stenny, But can you know, considering the schedule

1155
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 12: we play, plus the NFC East, that's my concern. It's

1156
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 12: just we You know, d line has been improved tremendously,

1157
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 12: but that old line. You gotta protect Russell Wilson. So

1158
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 12: I couldn't concur with you more. That's still my concern.

1159
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 3: Understood. It's getting really, really thin though, in terms of

1160
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 3: what's on the shelf of this draft, and.

1161
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 2: I don't think.

1162
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 1: I don't think at this point you're drafting anyone that's

1163
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: gonna challenge him.

1164
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 3: Doesn't seem like it to me.

1165
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: Even though like Mbau, who is a good player, he's

1166
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: a little he's more of like a raw developmental guy.

1167
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 2: He's not a guy you're gonna plug it right away.

1168
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 2: I don't think.

1169
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 3: Here's the thing, we.

1170
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 1: Don't all the running backs are coming off now, by

1171
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: the way, Wow. Well, we talked about the running back

1172
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: sweet spot in the fourth round right the heart of

1173
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 1: the beef steak, right by the way we talk about it.

1174
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 1: So you've had Bachelle Toton go off the board in

1175
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: this round. We talked about camp Scattaboo go off the board.

1176
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 1: We had Wood he marks from us. He come off

1177
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: the board. Jarquez Hunter just came off the board. So

1178
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: I just listed all these running backs. Well, guess what,

1179
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 1: Dylan Samson, Damian Martinez, Devin Neil, Jordan James, DJ Giddens,

1180
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: and Pashard Smith are all still there. That's how good

1181
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: this running back class is.

1182
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 3: Oh sure. I think all the way back at the Combine,

1183
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 3: we people telling us you could probably go early, third

1184
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 3: round and not third.

1185
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 1: Fifth round, then still get a guy. And I think

1186
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: that's gonna be the case here.

1187
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, But there's only I'm sorry, no, no, there's only

1188
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 3: one Scataboo, though there is a hand one and the

1189
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 3: truth and the truth is I remember telling John I'd

1190
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 3: love to get him in the fourth, and you convinced

1191
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 3: me you probably got to get him in the third.

1192
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: You can't get him in the fall, And I was wrong,

1193
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 1: And no, but and.

1194
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 3: So I think we settled at ninety nine.

1195
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: But yeah, we might have we did, Yeah, we might have.

1196
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 3: We settled at ninety nine and that okay, that's realistic.

1197
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 3: Maybe at ninety nine, and then the Giants traded ninety nine.

1198
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: Well luckily one oh five was only six off of

1199
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 1: ninety nine, thank goodness, thank goodness. Absolutely yeah, I thought

1200
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: he would go between sixty five and ninety nine. That's

1201
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 1: where I thought the range was going to be for him.

1202
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: Even though I had him great higher, I thought he

1203
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 1: was more of an early third, you know, mid thirdeen.

1204
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 3: No, I got it.

1205
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: It worked out all right. Final call the show is

1206
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: Cliff in New York.

1207
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 2: He will wrap us up today. Hi, Cliff, folks.

1208
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: Another reason we're getting off we have to The NFL

1209
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 1: limits our streaming time on Saturday to an hour. So

1210
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: we just were just doing we have to do. We'd

1211
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 1: love to be on longer. Pearson begged for it. He

1212
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 1: called the league himself and said, I just want to

1213
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 1: keep working, but unfortunately we're not. Goamaility.

1214
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we'll be back tomorrow morning.

1215
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 1: Yes, on WFN from eight to ten am. That is correct, Paul,

1216
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 1: Good call Cliff, what's up?

1217
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 13: Okay? Obviously we've accomplished a lot. I have two questions

1218
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 13: on the front seven. On defense, Have we accomplished an

1219
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 13: upgrade for when Dexter Lawrence leaves the field for a series?

1220
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 2: Well, I think when Dexter Lawrence leaves the field for

1221
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:33,959
Speaker 2: a series, it's going to be led better the nose

1222
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 2: tackle you got from Jacksonville.

1223
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 3: At this point, that's the only guy I think who

1224
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 3: could possibly take those snaps adequately.

1225
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 1: And frankly, he was probably going to be better right

1226
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 1: away than whatever unless you were picking a nose tackle

1227
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 1: on day two, he was going to be better than

1228
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 1: whatever nose tack you got in the draft.

1229
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you know what, Cliff, in all honesty, this

1230
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 3: was one of the reasons. In fact, it was the

1231
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 3: premier reason why I said to John, I would like

1232
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 3: to try to get too a plugger and a penetrator.

1233
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 3: But as I discussed earlier, once they traded that that

1234
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 3: pick in the Dart deal, now you had fewer picks,

1235
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 3: you had the same amount of holes to fill. You're

1236
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 3: probably gonna have to go with.

1237
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 13: What you got, okay. And then the other thing is

1238
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 13: you've mentioned a number of times about Okara, Kay and

1239
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 13: McFadden benefiting greatly from improvements up in front of them. Absolutely,

1240
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 13: what about what about when they leave the field like

1241
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 13: they did last year because of injury? Can do we

1242
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 13: have Do we have an upgrade to it looked like

1243
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 13: we didn't have an upgrade sufficient to replace them last year.

1244
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 3: Well, you're not going to get anybody at this point.

1245
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 3: I don't think. I just saw Simon went off the

1246
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 3: board by the way, Ohio State. He just went off

1247
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 3: to oh the linebacker, Yeah, okay, he just went off.

1248
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:48,439
Speaker 3: He was about well, he was about the only guy

1249
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 3: who I kind of in the back of my mind

1250
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 3: thought like, if he drops, you might want to consider him.

1251
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Bossa Vassa from Oregon is a good player. Danny

1252
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 1: Stutsman went off the board, right, he's gone. Demetrius went on,

1253
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 1: He gone, it's thin, it's really fair. You're you're you're

1254
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 1: starting to thin it out.

1255
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 6: Now.

1256
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 3: What I said to the guy before, Cliff, I don't

1257
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 3: know if you joined us while the other callers were on,

1258
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 3: but look, they've got what they've got, right. You got Moso,

1259
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 3: you got Bored who came in from Baltimore who's a

1260
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 3: phenomenal special teams player but has played some inside linebacker.

1261
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 3: I mean, your depth is going to be a little

1262
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 3: thin there. That's just the way it's going to be.

1263
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 3: You know that in sub situations you got the ability

1264
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 3: to also play Carter as an off ball linebacker, and

1265
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 3: if you're playing in a dime, he's gonna be one

1266
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 3: of the two linebackers on the field. I don't think

1267
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 3: it's that much of a concern.

1268
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 13: Well, that's good. The thing I noticed about Carter when

1269
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 13: I just saw his picture for the first time, he

1270
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 13: has the neck of a linebacker.

1271
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 2: Oh boy, yes he does.

1272
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 1: He looks thick. Cliff, we got a run. We're hitting

1273
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 1: our hour a limit here, Paul. This is fun all

1274
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: three days, man.

1275
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 2: Really good.

1276
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 3: You got a John. We'll do it tomorrow.

1277
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 1: That's our Draft Reaction show, presented by Crestron from the

1278
01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:00,600
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1279
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 1: eight am tomorrow, Wfan, Paul and I will be with you.

1280
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 1: We have an exclusive interview with Joe Shane that will

1281
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 1: air on that show that you're not gonna hear anywhere else,

1282
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 1: So make sure you check that out. We are going

1283
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 1: to have some of the one on one interviews that

1284
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 1: Sean O'Hara and mattewin Burke have done with some of

1285
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 1: these draft picks over the last couple of days. Tony

1286
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 1: Pauline will be with us for the second hour of

1287
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 1: that show from nine to ten, and of course we'll

1288
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 1: take all your calls. That'll be streaming on WFA dot

1289
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:27,680
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1290
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 1: check that out. WFAN Sunday Morning AM for Paul Latino

1291
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 1: and Pearson Butler Peerson. Great job these last three days.

1292
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 1: I am John Schmelk. We will talk to you on

1293
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 1: Sunday morning. It never stops