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Speaker 1: Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson

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Speaker 1: with you. Nice to have you with us wherever you

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Speaker 1: are around the country, especially if you're listening on radio

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Speaker 1: right now as well. We've got a pack show and

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Speaker 1: Senator I don't even know if you thought that it

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Speaker 1: was going to be all about you with the James

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Speaker 1: Comy indictment. He has been indicted for alleged false statement,

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Speaker 1: substruction of congressional proceedings. This is obviously, as you would say,

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Speaker 1: a big damn deal, and the clip of you talking

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Speaker 1: to James Comy is what everyone's playing on TV right now.

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Speaker 2: Well, Bennett's a momentous day. The former director of the FBI,

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Speaker 2: James Comy, has been indicted on two counts of lying

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Speaker 2: to Congress under oath and lying to Congress under oath

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Speaker 2: to be clear in response to questioning from me in

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Speaker 2: front of the Senate Judiciary Committee. The grand jury has

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Speaker 2: indicted him. He's facing prosecution, and we are seeing the

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Speaker 2: media losing their minds. The media is letting out a

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Speaker 2: primal scream of horror. The Democrats are horror. We're going

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Speaker 2: to break down exactly why James Comy has been indicted.

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Speaker 2: We're going to give you the factual predicate. We're going

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Speaker 2: to give you the legal predicate, and I will tell

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Speaker 2: you James Comy is defending himself, and he's defending himself

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Speaker 2: as a partisan, as someone who hates Donald Trump. He

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Speaker 2: is defending himself as if he were Chuck Schumer or

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Speaker 2: Nancy Pelosi, rather than actually addressing the facts that I

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Speaker 2: believe demonstrated he committed deliberately committed felonies when he testified

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Speaker 2: and falsely testified under oath to the United States Senate.

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Speaker 2: We're going to give you all those details. We're also

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Speaker 2: going to talk about the tragic shooting that happened when

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Speaker 2: a deranged sniper targeted an ICE facility in Dallas, Texas.

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Speaker 2: I was on the ground there moments after the shooting occurred.

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Speaker 2: This is yet the latest incidence of politically motivated violence

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Speaker 2: and violence directed against ICE agents and CBP and law enforcement.

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Speaker 2: This is getting worse and worse, and this must stop.

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Speaker 2: We're going to tell you exactly what happened and give

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Speaker 2: you all the facts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's certainly a very very very big story. All

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Speaker 1: of you know that I am a pro Second Amendment guy.

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Speaker 1: I've shared on numerous occasions how caring my firearms saved

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Speaker 1: my life from a gang related attack. But for those

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Speaker 1: of you out there with family members who may not

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Speaker 1: be comfortable having a gun by their side, you still

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Speaker 1: want them to be able to protect themselves and others

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Speaker 1: in times of danger, and that's where the Burno launcher

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Speaker 1: Berna is a handheld pistol that fires both kinetic rounds

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Speaker 1: and chemical irritants to separate you from the attacker. I'm

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Speaker 1: here today with Josh Cherard from Berna to share the

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Speaker 1: true story of how a California homeowner used a Berna

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Speaker 1: launcher to stop a home intruder. Josh tell us what happened.

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Speaker 3: You know, Bob Braid was one of the earliest adopters

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Speaker 3: of Burna back when we first started. He lived in

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Speaker 3: California in a residential suburb of LA that was pretty

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Speaker 3: Bob was able to pull his burne out, point it

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Speaker 3: at the intruder, who promptly backed out of the home

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Speaker 3: back into the yard. And of course it was all

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Speaker 3: taught on surveillance. He didn't even have to use the

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Speaker 3: berna and he was able to ward off this intruder

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Speaker 3: in a situation that could have ended incredibly badly had

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Speaker 3: more force than used. This is a great demonstration of

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Speaker 3: how the lowest level of force can be used to

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of people are going to say, well,

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Speaker 1: why wouldn't the homeowner just use a gun in this case?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, one, it comes down to the legality you

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Speaker 3: know in this part of California and made very difficult

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Speaker 3: to use the gun. And then two, we saw that

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Speaker 3: this intruder literally just stumbled into the wrong home in

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Speaker 3: an altered state of mind. Nobody wants to kill anybody

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Speaker 3: So this is a great instance where the Berno was

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I tell you I have one of these. My

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Speaker 1: family members do as well a lot of my friends.

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Speaker 1: If you want more information how you or a family

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Speaker 1: b why RNA dot com? All right, so, Senator, I

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Speaker 1: want to start with this clip, and I think this

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Speaker 1: is a great starting point for this indictment of the

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Speaker 1: former REPBI director James Comy. This is you questioning Comy

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Speaker 1: back in September of twenty twenty. Uh. This is the

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Speaker 1: back and forth between the two of you. Everyone listening.

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Speaker 1: This is really an important and part of history now

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Speaker 1: and could probably be an important part of this case.

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Speaker 2: To another topic. On May third, twenty seventeen, in this committee,

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Speaker 2: Chairman Grassley asked you point blank, quote have you ever

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Speaker 2: under oath quote never, he then asked you, quote, have

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Speaker 2: or the Clinton administration? You responded again under oath No. Now,

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Speaker 2: as you know, mister McCabe, who works for you, has

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Speaker 2: publicly and repeatedly stated that he leaked information to the

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Speaker 2: of it and that you directly authorized it. Now, what

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Speaker 2: mister McCabe is saying and what you testify to this

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Speaker 2: Who's telling the truth.

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Speaker 4: I just can only speak to my testimony. I stand

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Speaker 4: by what the testimony you summarized that I gave in

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Speaker 4: May of twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 2: So your testimony as you've never authorized anyone to leak,

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Speaker 2: And mister McCabe, if he says contrary, is not telling

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Speaker 2: the truth. Is that correct?

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Speaker 4: Again, I'm not going to characterize Andy's testimony, but mine

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Speaker 2: Today, all right, I'm going to make a final point

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Speaker 2: because my time has expired. This investigation of the president

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Speaker 2: was corrupt. The FBI and the Department of Justice were

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Speaker 2: politicized and weaponized, and in my opinion, there are only

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Speaker 2: and I don't believe you were incompetent. This has done

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Speaker 2: severe damage to the professionals and the honorable men and

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Speaker 1: All right, So you listen to that, and then you'll

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Speaker 1: look at the indictment. Count one false statement to the

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Speaker 1: two call me obstructed the Judiciary Committee's investigation through his

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Speaker 1: quote false and misleading statements. That is a big smoking gun.

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Speaker 2: Well it is. It's the basis of the indictment and

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Speaker 2: this will be the central focus of the trial. Now.

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Speaker 2: James Comy put out a statement tonight on Instagram, and

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Speaker 2: his statement is striking in that it is a political statement.

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Speaker 2: It is not a statement about the facts of the law.

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Speaker 2: So give a listen to what James Comby said this

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Speaker 2: evening in response to the indictment.

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Speaker 4: My family and I have known for years that there

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Speaker 4: are costs to standing up to Donald Trump, but we

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Speaker 4: couldn't imagine ourselves living any other way. We will not

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Speaker 4: live on our knees, and you shouldn't either. Somebody that

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Speaker 4: I love dearly recently said that fear is the tool

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Speaker 4: and I hope you're not either. I hope instead you

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Speaker 4: are engaged, You are paying attention, and you will vote

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Speaker 4: like your beloved country depends upon it, which it does.

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Speaker 4: My heart is broken for the Department of Justice, but

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Speaker 4: I have great confidence in the federal judicial system, and

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Speaker 4: I'm innocent, So let's have a trial.

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Speaker 1: I love how he is a victim there and acting

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Speaker 1: like he's above all of this. But center, let's just

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Speaker 1: go back to three point thirty of twenty three. James

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Speaker 1: Comey tweeted out, quote, it's been a good day. That

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Speaker 1: is how I reacted to Trump being in died in

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Speaker 1: the Alvin Bragg hush money case. So to act like

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Speaker 1: he's some sort of guy that's above all this. Look

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Speaker 2: Words, well, his statement he put out in response to

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Speaker 2: this that could have been given by Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi,

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Speaker 2: or King Jeffries or any other political Democrat. And in

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Speaker 2: fact he makes a call Mountain vote, it's a get

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Speaker 2: out the vote message. This is a former director of

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Speaker 2: the FBI. But to give you a sense of just

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Speaker 2: a picture of shells spelling out eighty six forty seven,

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Speaker 2: in other words, slang for kill the current President of

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Speaker 2: the United States, Donald V.

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Speaker 2: To say, calling for the murder of the sitting president

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Speaker 2: is not appropriate for the former FBI director In an

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Speaker 2: how much James Comy loathes Donald Trump. And understand. When

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Speaker 2: Trump became president the first time in January of twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 2: President Trump unfortunately made a serious mistake, which is he

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Speaker 2: left James Comey in office. In hindsight, on January twentieth,

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Speaker 2: twenty seventeen, President Trump should have called James Comy and

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Speaker 2: said thank you for your service to the nation. Your

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Speaker 2: wishes he had done that. I think the White House

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Speaker 2: not be politicized, and that assumption proved to be in error.

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Speaker 2: James Comy presided over weaponizing and politicizing the FBI. He

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Speaker 2: was part of weaponizing and politicizing the Department of Justice.

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Speaker 2: And it was because they hated Donald Trump, and frankly,

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Speaker 2: they were angry at the American people for electing him

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Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen, and so the FBI set out to

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Speaker 2: try to attack and to try to ultimately remove from

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Speaker 2: should not bear saying, but it is not the job

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Speaker 2: of law enforcement to determine the will of the voters.

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Speaker 2: Is wrong, and the elected president should no longer be president.

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Speaker 2: That's what Comy presided over. And so when I listened

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Speaker 2: it really is. You know, there's a Yiddish word, hootspot.

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Speaker 2: And I got to say, James Comy really ought to

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Speaker 2: have a T shirt with that printed on it, because

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Speaker 2: he is grieving for the Department of Justice. Why because

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Speaker 2: he has been indicted for what I think is clearly

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Speaker 2: a felony. And we're going to break down in just minutes,

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Speaker 2: why exactly this is a felony, what the crime is,

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Speaker 2: And I want to point out Nowhere in his statement

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Speaker 2: does Comy get into the actual facts. Nowhere in the

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Speaker 2: statement does he get into what he did. Nowhere in

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Speaker 2: the statement does he get into law. He just gives

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Speaker 2: a political statement. He will not be on his knees.

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Speaker 2: He calls Trump a tyrant who is ruling by fear. Look,

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Speaker 2: this is an indictment that was returned by a grand

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Speaker 2: jury in the Commonwealth of Virginia, and it was returned

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Speaker 2: because of I believe clear evidence demonstrating Comy committed felonies.

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Speaker 1: Senator, I want to bring up a point that no

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Speaker 1: one in the media has brought up so far about

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Speaker 2: Well, and look, I think what should govern this case

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Speaker 2: it is a simple binary choice. Either James Comy lied

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Speaker 2: Well, at the end of the day, the factual predicate

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Speaker 2: and so at the end of the day, this is

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Speaker 2: not a complicated factual case. This is not some grand tapestry.

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Speaker 2: It's a he said, he said, she said. But you

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Speaker 2: have both testimonies under oath, and it's going to be

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Speaker 2: a question of what additional evidence is there to confirm

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Speaker 2: who's telling the truth and who's not. I also think

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Speaker 2: I will be surprised if James Comy's lawyer puts him

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Speaker 2: on the stand. Now, under our justice system, the prosecution

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Speaker 2: cannot force a defendant to testify. But I'm going to

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Speaker 2: predict James Comy is not going to take the stand

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Speaker 2: because if he takes the stand, he can be cross examined,

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Speaker 2: and he does not want to be cross examined, because

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Speaker 2: this is someone who presided over weaponizing the Department of

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Speaker 2: Justice with the objective of taking out Donald J. Trump

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Speaker 2: and getting under oath, getting cross examined by a skilled

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Speaker 2: trial attorney, and again under oath. By the way, if

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Speaker 2: he lies in his trial testimony, he can be indicted

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Speaker 2: and prosecuted again for lying under oath. Again, I don't

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Speaker 2: think his lawyer will do that. And so at the

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Speaker 2: end of the day, look, the press is going to

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Speaker 2: go on and on and say, well, Trump hates James Comy.

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Speaker 2: That is certainly true, But being hated by the President

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Speaker 2: is not enough to exonerate you from criminal conduct. And

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Speaker 2: in this instance, I believe Comy should have been indicted

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Speaker 2: five years ago because it was clear he had deliberately

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Speaker 2: lied to Congress. And look, we started by playing my

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Speaker 2: cross examination. This wasn't an absent minded lie. This wasn't oh,

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Speaker 2: I'm not paying attention. This was careful, This was deliberate,

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Speaker 2: This was strategic, this was planned. I believe this was

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Speaker 2: James Comy saying, I face no accountability whatsoever. I can

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Speaker 2: lie under oath and no one's going to hold me

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Speaker 2: to account. And I think he feels he feels it's clever,

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Speaker 2: but he also feels vindicated. Listen, James Comy was someone

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Speaker 2: who I think fancied himself as j Edgar Hoover. He

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Speaker 2: empowered to remove the tyrant. That's what he said in

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Speaker 2: his statement tonight that he thinks Trump is a tyrant.

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Speaker 2: And I think when the American people elected him in

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Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, I think Comy was angry and he decided

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Speaker 2: he would use the power of the FBI to remove

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Speaker 2: it is quite fitting that he is facing accountability for

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Speaker 2: committing criminal conduct. Let me repeat, this indictment is not

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Speaker 2: for being an opponent of Donald Trump. It is not

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Speaker 2: for being a political a political figure on the other

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Speaker 2: side of Donald Trump. This indictment is for deliberately and

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Speaker 2: knowingly lying under oath to the United States Senate, which

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Speaker 2: is a clear an unmistakable felony. And and I think

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Speaker 2: I think Comy, I think the odds are good that

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Speaker 2: I think he's going to serve jail time.

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Speaker 1: How much of very quickly, of his past will come

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Speaker 1: back to haunt him. He is a prolific guy when

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Speaker 1: We know that for a fact. And it went to

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Speaker 1: one of his former law friends at a university that

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Speaker 1: then went to a newspaper. That is a fact. Will

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Speaker 1: that come up? And then the other question I have

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Speaker 1: for you quickly is this, will the testimony that he

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Speaker 1: gay before Congress be used in court or literally will

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Speaker 1: senators that interviewed him, would you guys go to court

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Speaker 1: or would they just use the testimony video?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they would use the testimony. They would

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Speaker 2: read or play the testimony. I don't think you're going

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Speaker 2: to see senators testifying, and the record is clear in

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Speaker 2: the objective and so everyone knows exactly what his testimony was.

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Speaker 2: In terms of his past pattern, I think it could

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Speaker 2: certainly come in. The prosecution might try to bring it

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Speaker 2: in to establish a pattern. That would be difficult. But

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Speaker 2: I think if Comy's lawyer argues, well, he couldn't possibly

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Speaker 2: have approved this, he never would have approved a leak,

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Speaker 2: then I think the prosecution would be able to get

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Speaker 2: all of that in as rebuttal to the defendant's argument.

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Speaker 2: So I think it's more likely to come in as

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Speaker 2: come in, And you're right, there's a clear pattern. Comy

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Speaker 1: we watched Gavin Newsom go on on late night TV

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Speaker 1: Yes they are. They've undermined them, they've demonized them, and

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Speaker 1: we were watching attack after attack happen against ICE agents.

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Speaker 1: It's horrific.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was in Dallas this week for a series

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Speaker 2: of unrelated meetings and the news broke that this strange

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Speaker 2: gunman had opened fire on an ICE facility in Dallas.

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Speaker 2: That he had gone onto a rooftop emulating Charlie Kirk's

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Speaker 2: assassin and with a bolt action rifle, fired multiple rounds,

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Speaker 2: ended up killing two people severely injuring a third, and

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Speaker 2: then then he took the gun to himself and took

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Speaker 2: his own life. And it was horrific. When the news broke,

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Speaker 2: I canceled my morning meeting and just drove over to

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Speaker 2: the ICE facility that morning. Was there, was there shortly

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Speaker 2: after the shooting had occurred. And this has happened far

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Speaker 2: too often. Here's what I had to say at the

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Speaker 2: press conference that was ongoing when I arrived at the facility.

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Speaker 3: If this needs to stop.

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Speaker 2: Violence is wrong, Politically motivated violence is wrong. It was

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Speaker 2: two weeks ago today that we saw political assassination in

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Speaker 2: Utah that tore the heart out of much of this country.

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Speaker 2: This is the third shooting in Texas directed at ICE

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Speaker 2: or CBP. This must stop. To every politician who is

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Speaker 2: using rhetoric demonizing ICE and demonizing CBP, stop to every

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Speaker 2: politician demanding that ICE agents be dosed and calling for

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Speaker 2: people to go after their families.

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Speaker 3: Stop.

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Speaker 2: This has very real consequences. Look in America, we disagree.

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Speaker 2: That's fine, that's the democratic process. But your political opponents

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Speaker 2: are not Nazis. We need to learn to work together

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Speaker 2: without demonizing each other, without attacking each other. And I

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Speaker 2: want to say thank you. I want to say thank

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Speaker 2: you to the brave men and women of law enforcement.

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Speaker 2: I want to say thank you to the brave men

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Speaker 2: and women of ICE and CVP and everyone who puts

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Speaker 2: their lives on the lines to keep us safe. The

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Speaker 2: divisive rhetoric tragically has real consequences. I hope that every

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Speaker 2: one of us will I hope that every one of

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Speaker 2: us will pray Number one for the safety of law

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Speaker 2: enforcement that are risking their lives to keep us safe.

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Speaker 2: Number two, for the health of those who were shot

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Speaker 2: and injured. Today we still don't know the full details

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Speaker 2: of who was injured, but for the families also of

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Speaker 2: the victims of this shooting. Violence has no place. It

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Speaker 2: is wrong, and we should come together. If we want

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Speaker 2: to have a debate of an immigration policies, we can

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Speaker 2: do so in the halls of Congress without demonizing each other,

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Speaker 2: and especially without demonizing the men and women who every

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Speaker 2: day put on a badge and go risk their lives

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Speaker 2: to keep us safe. And we should not be putting

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Speaker 2: language out there that inspires mad men to commit evil crimes.

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Speaker 2: Our prayers are with the men and women of law enforcement,

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Speaker 2: and we ought to come together and have some decency

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Speaker 2: across the political aisle to say this violence is wrong and.

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Speaker 3: It needs to stop.

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Speaker 1: We know Senator a lot about this gunman. We know

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Speaker 1: that he was googling the shooting of our friend whose

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Speaker 1: funeral we just went to, Charlie Kirk. We know that

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Speaker 1: he was looking at the app that they put out

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Speaker 1: there and these websites where you can track ICE agents

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Speaker 1: which is accent where they are.

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Speaker 2: That is an app designed to encourage violence against ICE

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Speaker 2: agents and law enforcement. And whether it's Gavin Newsom or

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Speaker 2: a Keen Jeffries or any any other Democrat who is

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Speaker 2: encouraging this targeting of ICE agents, it is fundamentally wrong

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Speaker 2: and that they need to stand up and stop it.

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Speaker 2: You know, I will say this shooter, it's the news

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Speaker 2: has since come out. This shooter. His mother was a

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Speaker 2: hard leftist who actually had been vocally critical of me

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Speaker 2: and other Texas Republicans for not embracing gun control, and

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Speaker 2: in fact, in May of twenty twenty two, she posted

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Speaker 2: the following Governor Abbot, Senator Cornyn, and Senator Cruz, how

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Speaker 2: does it feel that your action to open up gun

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Speaker 2: laws is responsible for the killing of twenty one more people?

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Speaker 2: Do you secretly sit in front of a TV and

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Speaker 2: smile with a demented smile. You must be proud of

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Speaker 2: all the money that sits in your bank accounts from

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Speaker 2: the gun lobby support. Was it worth it? Governor Abbot?

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Speaker 2: How about you senators? When you prioritize money over people,

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Speaker 2: this is what you get And I will say the

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Speaker 2: irony is rich that this leftist mom who was championing

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Speaker 2: gun control now her son has committed a mass murder

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Speaker 2: as a sniper. It is tragic, and it is a

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Speaker 2: consequence of extreme rhetoric, extreme ideology that is poisoning the

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Speaker 2: minds of those who are driven to violence. And I

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Speaker 2: will say this assassin wrote on his shell casings anti Ice,

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Speaker 2: very much, emulating what Charlie Kirk's murderer did, writing pro

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Speaker 2: Antifa and pro transgender propaganda on his shell casings. And

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Speaker 2: we need to stop this violence, regardless of where your

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Speaker 2: politics are, but we need to stop the rhetoric that

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Speaker 2: is fueling this violence. And there's a lot of Democrat

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Speaker 2: politicians engaging in this rhetoric, no matter how many lives

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Speaker 2: are lost. And I want to be clear, I am

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Speaker 2: not calling them Nazis. I am absolutely opposing any violence

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Speaker 2: or calls to violence. I'm calling on them to tone

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Speaker 2: down their rhetoric and stop demonizing their opponent, stop demonizing Ice,

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Speaker 2: stop demonizing law enforcement, because it's dangerous and tragically. Lunatics

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Speaker 2: are acting on the rhetoric they're hearing from these politicians.

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Speaker 1: for you, So download the podcast. We will keep you updated,

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Speaker 1: obviously on all the breaking news around James Comy. He

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Speaker 1: is and it's gonna be a very very big case,

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Speaker 1: so we'll have that for you and we'll see you

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Speaker 1: on the podcast all week long. Be safe, everyone,