1 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: I'm Carol Fisher, and I'm hosting a podcast called The Girlfriends, 2 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: a show about a group of women who all have 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: one thing in common. 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 2: All of us have this scarlet letter of I dated 5 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 2: a murderer. 6 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. Back in the nineteen nineties in Las Vegas, a 7 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: few of us dated the same guy, Bob. He was 8 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: amazing on paper, a doctor, a pilot. 9 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 3: He spoke several languages, he did medical missionary work, and 10 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 3: he was Jewish, and it was just how much better 11 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 3: could it get? 12 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: After we took our turns dating Bob, we did what 13 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: girlfriends do. We debriefed, but it quickly became a parent 14 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: that I knew something my friends did not. 15 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: She said, Oh, you obviously don't know about the skeletons 16 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: in his closet, And I go, what skeletons in the closet? 17 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: Bob had a big secret. His first wife, Gail, apparently 18 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: walked out of their apartment in nineteen eighty five and 19 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: was never seen again. 20 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 2: It's like there was just something always off. 21 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: Before too long, we had formed a club dedicated to 22 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: bitching about Bob eating noodles and figuring out what happened 23 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: to Gail. It was all just gossip. Until the prosecutors 24 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: came knocking and our little club became part of a 25 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: multi state investigation. 26 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 4: There's nobody, no forensics, no admissions, an extremely difficult, circumstantial 27 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 4: case based in large parts on things that the defendant 28 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 4: had said to his girlfriends. 29 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: Nearly thirty years later, I'm going back to talk to 30 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: all those girlfriends to find out everything Bob did and 31 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: how he got away with it. 32 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 3: He dated the entire Jewish professional community. 33 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: Run Run girlfriend run. 34 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 3: She told me that he was mad and he tried 35 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 3: to drown the cat. 36 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 2: I thought to myself, I'm lucky to be alive, and 37 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: then I kept thinking who else did he hurt. 38 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 5: I would call him and I would say, I know 39 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 5: you killed my sister. I will always hound you and 40 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 5: haunt you. 41 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: You can listen to the girlfriends on the iHeartRadio app, 42 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.