WEBVTT - Study Hall: TOP COLLEGE HACKS TO SAVE MONEY 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:03.120 Coach, the energy out there felt different. What changed for 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:03.800 the team today? 0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:06.000 It was a new game day scratches from the California 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:07.520 Lottery player is everything. 0:00:07.840 --> 0:00:09.799 Those games sent the team's energy through the roof. 0:00:09.880 --> 0:00:11.880 Are you saying it was the off field play that 0:00:11.920 --> 0:00:13.000 made the difference on the field. 0:00:13.119 --> 0:00:15.840 Hey, little play makes your day, and today it made 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:16.279 the game. 0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:19.319 That's all for now, Coach, one more question play than 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:22.119 New Los Angeles Chargers, San Francisco forty nine Ers and 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:25.440 Los Angeles Rams. Scratchers from the California Lottery. A little 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:28.480 play can make your day. Peace made responsibily. Must be 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:30.040 eighteen years or older to purchase late or claim. 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:31.040 Well, jump right into it. 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:34.479 So you guys are college professors, right, and you know, 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:38.640 college is something that is very It's a hot topic 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:41.240 and it's something that triggers a lot of emotions in people, 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:43.720 especially nowadays. It's like anytime we put a post on 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:46.640 Instagram about college, we get a thousand comments and people saying, 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:48.479 I guess a scam, don't wast your money, and other 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:52.839 people saying all kinds of stuff. Right, So I'm just 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:55.160 going to jump right, I'll just jump right into it. 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:58.880 Is college still necessary to be successful or was it 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:03.560 really ever necessary? But in today's society, is college still necessary? 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:04.200 Still needed? 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:09.120 I mean I think that college, I mean it's not needed, 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:11.280 it's I mean, it's something that you can do, It's 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:12.120 something that's possible. 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:13.560 I think should be an option, right. 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:15.559 I don't think it should be forced upon that people 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:18.520 have to go to college. I know, I will say 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:21.200 there's other ways of being successful and going to certain 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:23.640 fields that college is not needed as much as it 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:26.920 was five years ago. But some things you do need, 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:28.400 like if you want to be a lawyer or a doctor, 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:30.360 or you're in a stem fields like college can be 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:33.800 very productive. But then there's some other majors where honestly 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:35.440 you can you can learn on YouTube, or you can 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:36.839 learn about reading books, or you can learn. 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:38.039 About just doing so. 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:39.720 I don't think it has to be a necessary thing 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:42.319 to go to college, but I do think it should 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:43.000 still be an option. 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:43.959 Yeah. 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:46.280 I think also one of the biggest things about college 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:50.200 are the networks and the relationships that are made. So 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:53.160 it's very far and few in between that you get 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:56.960 to sit in a room with doctor, a future lawyer, 0:01:57.120 --> 0:02:02.080 a future dentist, a future teacher and have conversations that 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:04.880 are not about your fields of study, and because we 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:06.600 all know that once we get into our you know, 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:07.200 our real. 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:09.559 Lives after college, it starts. 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:11.200 To become a little bit closer in the bubble where 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:13.960 you're just dealing with people who are who have similar interests. 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:18.040 So college for that particular space, there's not many other 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:22.160 places that create that type of environment. And academically there 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:26.080 are some fields that do still need it. But you know, 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:28.480 I think that these institutions, a lot of them are 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:32.440 just not created for the benefit of the students. I mean, 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:34.440 there are a number of colleges and universities that are 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:35.919 doing that work, but I think there are a lot 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:38.160 that are scamming people, and I think there are a 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:40.520 lot that are not doing the work. 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:44.040 It used to be looked at as a badge into middle. 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:46.440 Class life, but you had to have that piece of 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:49.000 paper if you wanted to get a good job, get 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:51.280 a house. Like that's going away with Like what then 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:52.840 he was just saying, it's like some things we're just 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:53.639 going to learn on the fly. 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:54.839 Like we say this all the time. 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:57.480 We have no training in broadcasting, but we're doing a 0:02:57.560 --> 0:03:00.040 podcasts right Like we're learning these things as we go 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.120 on I think, like, yes, there. 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:03.919 Are options that you can do outside of going to. 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:06.520 School, but if they're on careers like lawyers and doctors, 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:09.880 like you said, then it's mandatory. Man, I'm a college guy, right, 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:12.120 Like we had to do it in education, but like 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:13.600 I said before, like I feel like we could. I 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:15.520 could have done it out of high school had given 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:18.680 the proper training rather than seven years of dedication to 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:19.120 that career. 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:19.800 You know what I mean, right. 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:23.520 I think what college does is we live in a 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:27.600 society where image is very important, right, So what college 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:30.400 does is that it gives you a badge to say, Okay, 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:35.240 I have a certain level of success already built in 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:39.440 because I've completed my degree. So now I can at 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:41.440 least speak to you on an intelligent level when I 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:45.160 can be taken seriously, which not is not always the case, right, 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:47.240 because there's plenty of people that graduated from what Kanye 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:49.320 speakle what Kanye said, people graduate from college who be 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:49.840 still stupid. 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:53.600 That's all the time, every year. 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:55.520 And then you got some people who never went to 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:58.240 college who are brilliant or never finished college that are brilliant. 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:00.720 So my personal opinion, you know, and it is that 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:03.520 I think that college is beneficial. It can be beneficial 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:08.119 from the social standpoint, specifically from a social standpoint and 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:11.680 growing as an adult, right because especially if you go 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:13.920 away to college, that's probably your first opportunity living on 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:17.560 your own, and you mature, you develop a certain relationships, 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:21.279 you meet people. That part you really can't get just 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:23.760 going out of high school. In the real world, you can, 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:26.400 but it's a lot more difficult. You're not in an 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:29.800 incubator where you're just around a thousand people and you 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:32.120 can just develop those type of relationships. It's not easy 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:36.320 to do that and just real world life. But I 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:39.040 feel that a lot of times people are misguided right 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:40.880 when they go to college. So this is my next question. 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:42.280 As far as you know, one of the biggest things 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:46.680 for college for me is majors. Right, So you guys 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:48.800 are on the inside, and I see I saw that 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:51.200 even when I was in school. Anybody that doesn't know 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:53.839 I have a communications degree, I don't have a business degree. 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:58.120 So but when I went to school, they told me like, look, 0:04:58.200 --> 0:04:58.800 just get a degree. 0:04:58.800 --> 0:04:59.400 It doesn't matter. 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:01.520 If you're not trying to be a doctor or a 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:05.040 rocket scientist, it doesn't matter. And it honestly didn't because 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:07.640 when I graduated, I'm a financial Advisorble when I graduated, 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:09.600 in order to do what I had to do, I 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:12.160 had to pass like three different tests, so I had 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:15.320 to study for like nine months. So it doesn't matter 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:16.520 if I would have got a business degree or not, 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:17.920 I still would have had to study. So it's kind 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:19.159 of like I went to college. After I went to 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:22.200 college anyway, and now I have my licenses so I 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:23.440 can do whatever I want to do. So but I 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:24.800 could have had an art degree. I could have had 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:28.480 any kind of degree, right, So how important is it 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:32.880 to pick the right major and how do you determine 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:33.799 what is the right major? 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:37.400 So this is for parents and people got in students 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:39.680 for college. So before I was a professor, I shtued 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:41.800 to work in a mission. So the most important part 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:45.520 when talking to parents or talking to students is when 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:48.479 you're choosing a school, especially when it comes to majors. 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:51.520 Your major should be a top five major within that school. 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:53.680 What I mean by that is top five with enrollment 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:57.840 and also they have placement for companies that deal exactly 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:00.440 what your major. And if you're not I those like 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:02.719 top five areas for your major, what can happen honestly 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:04.440 is you can be two years in at the school 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:07.120 and if it's not enough students enrolled in that program, 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:09.680 your program get dropped and now you're still at that college. 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:12.680 So it's very important as we guide our students telling 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:14.440 me to go to college, Yeah, that's great, but please 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:17.120 make sure whatever field you're trying to go into is 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:20.719 one a popular major within the school. Two has the 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:24.320 partnerships outside of the school with the different companies. And then, last, 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:27.240 but not least, is the mentality of knowing where the 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:29.600 United States or where your country, where you're living at, 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:31.200 is going to be the next five years as far 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:33.479 as the job market and careers and what's going to 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:35.159 be in demand. Not i A would say this my 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:37.880 mentality of not five minutes from now, start taking five 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:40.200 years from now right. So when you're making that decision, 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:43.240 what does a communications degree look like five years from 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:44.880 now right? What does that feel looks like, look like? 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:47.440 Is even going to be around photography? Is that's something 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:49.240 that you really have to go to school for when 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:51.400 you can potentially learn that, you know? So that's that's 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:53.280 kind of the key when picking your majors is making 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:55.720 sure that the school provides the resources but can also 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:56.720 place you at the job. 0:06:56.960 --> 0:07:00.599 But it also is a demand. Butin the next few years, I. 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:01.360 Couldn't agree more. 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:03.200 Man Like a lot of times, especially in our community, 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:05.520 when our kids think about college, the first thing they 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:07.560 think about is the athletics, right, Like I want to 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:09.360 go to do or I want to go in North Carolina. 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:11.040 I want to go to Yukon, right, And when you 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:13.400 get there, if you're not there on athletics, it's like, well, 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:16.240 I want to study communications. Well that's not one of 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:18.440 those majors that is one of the best things at 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:21.080 that school, So like you should be looking past just 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:23.600 like yo, I'm alumni and I go to that school 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:25.600 for the sports, right if it means it doesn't mean 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:27.880 as much when you come out of Yukon with the 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:29.080 communication gree. 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:30.440 I have a communication degree. You know what I'm saying. 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:32.320 But I want to go back to what you said. 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:34.880 I don't go back to what you said because you 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:35.280 said that. 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:38.200 It doesn't matter, and in my head, I'm like, yeah, 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:40.920 it doesn't matter if you're on an athletic scholarship. If 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:42.640 it matters to a guy like me who was like, 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:44.920 I'm studying physical therapy and I don't want to be 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:47.640 a physical therapist, right, and I've paid thirty thousand dollars 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:50.280 for four years. It's like this matters a lot, right, 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:51.840 Like now what do I do? Do I have to 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:54.400 continue going when I don't want to do this? Or 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:56.440 do I have to figure out what can I do? 0:07:56.600 --> 0:07:58.040 Like that, I kind of fell into that thing. It 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:00.320 was like the school I was at it was greatus 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:03.240 physical therapy. I couldn't pass the science classes. I'm like, yo, 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:05.040 I'm not going to be a physical therapist. I got 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:07.360 to figure out what I can get and gratefully, I 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:08.960 was able to go to school with a health. 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:10.880 Science degree and I was like, all right, well what 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:11.640 does that even mean? 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:12.440 You know what I'm saying. 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:14.800 So I have to start figuring out, like and what's 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:15.240 gonna happen. 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:18.440 We talk about this all the time, and Jeff in 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:21.280 particular use this analogy of you know, and everything else 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:23.240 you buy something, you challenge to make sure that the 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:25.800 service that they're providing is correct, right, And I feel 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:28.280 like people are not challenging some of these schools when 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:31.000 they're paying all this money. You know you're paying and 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:33.760 maybe because you're not physically using cash and handing over 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:34.600 fifty thousand dollars. 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:36.360 You're not seeing the money, so you maybe don't. 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:38.079 Care as much as if you're going to a restaurant, 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:41.320 like you know, Jeff always says about you know, if 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:43.040 you order steak and they bring out chicken nuggets, are 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:44.079 you gonna eat chicken nuggets? 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:45.640 Or you're going to say, I ordered steak. 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:48.840 And many times students are paying all this money for 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:51.440 a school and then not providing the services that they're promised, 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:55.280 and they're not challenging the school right or asking questions before. 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:57.320 And I don't know, maybe it's because again you're not 0:08:57.440 --> 0:08:59.680 physically handing that money over and you think, I go, 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:01.320 I'll just get a job and I paid off later. 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:03.160 But I think it should really treat it like everything 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:03.880 else you purchase them. 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:06.480 That's a problem especially in our community, man, like we 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:08.720 don't know how to advocate for the things we want. 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:10.760 Like I've seen it over and over with parents not 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:12.280 being able to advocate for the kids. But then the 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:13.920 kids grow up and they don't how to advocate. So 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:15.800 if they all being mistreated at school and the things 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:16.920 that not being avided, it's. 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:20.720 Like who do I how do you challenge the system? 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:23.000 Because I mean, that's like going up against that. 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:25.640 System. How do you challenge? 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:27.320 So I don't want to even say like challenge the system. 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:27.959 It's simple things. 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:29.600 So, if there's like a college fair at your school, 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:31.599 like every school, typically at high school, they bring in 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:35.440 college representatives, you know, instead of asking questions, like students 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:37.800 get these questions from guidance counselors and some people. I 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:40.120 don't know where they get these questions from, like what's 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:42.960 the percentage of student success at your school? Like that's 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:44.640 not the question should be asking you. She'd be asking 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:46.440 you know, look, I want to be an engineer. How 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:49.080 can you how can this school help me become an engineer? 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:51.960 How can this school help me become a bio mechanical engineer? 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:52.400 Like whatever? 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:54.920 How does how? What are the tools at your school 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:56.920 to get me there? But also is this major a 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:58.320 popular major at your school? 0:09:58.520 --> 0:09:59.199 Can I talk to. 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:02.040 Somebody at the the institution, the career center and find 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:04.320 out how many people you placed at a job in 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:06.280 the last three to four years at some point? You know, 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:08.280 like those type of questions need to be asked, and 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:12.720 unfortunately we don't. We don't provide those resources, them tools enough, 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:14.920 And that's why we create the platform that we create. 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:16.280 That's part of the things that we deal with to 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:18.960 let students know, like you do have a voice number 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:21.920 one and number two to ask those type of questions 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:23.960 before spending all of this money. 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:25.440 Jef, I wanted to ask you a question. We spoke 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:27.320 of CAM about the hitting curriculum. 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:30.000 Yeah, so the idea, so it kind of goes into 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:34.440 the aspect that the students don't know who to ask, 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:37.240 so that there is that problem. I don't know where 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:41.720 to go, and the institutions are not doing the job properly. 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:43.880 A lot of institutions are not doing the job properly 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:47.800 and creating a space for students to understand things like 0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:50.760 acronyms that students don't know. So I don't know what 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:53.640 FASSO might stand for, and that's talking about financial aid. 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:55.640 If you don't know what that means, then you're out 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:58.319 of luck. If you don't know what the bursar office means, 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:00.320 and these are the things that are just directly dealing 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:03.480 with your money sounds so you. 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:04.439 Don't know what these things are. 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:07.640 So I think it's just essential for and this is 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:09.760 where I think the big problem is is that there 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:13.000 are institutions that are about creating careers. 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:14.559 For people who want to be educators. 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:16.880 So they want to go up the ladder and become 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:21.200 vice presidents and become deans and become provosts and presidents 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:23.560 of institutions without caring about the students. So then they 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:26.080 create these platforms and they create these spaces where the 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:27.440 students cannot succeed. 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:29.560 So I'm not going to sugarcoat it. 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:32.440 There are academic institutions that are out there primarily just 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:35.080 to build careers and primarily just to make money. The 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:38.160 proper institutions that are doing the work are the ones 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:39.760 that say we are going to make sure that you 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:43.559 know who to speak to. And with the hidden curriculums, 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:45.480 that just means that there are things that are being 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:49.040 hidden in regular nomenclature. So it's saying we know what 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:51.360 it is, but a seventeen year old does not know 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:53.320 what that is, and we expect them to know what 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:56.360 it is then succeed in that space and then excel 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:58.440 beyond that, and then by the time they hit to 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:00.640 year two or three, we see the retention level drops 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:03.920 because the student doesn't know what the term retention even means. 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:05.880 So we're saying we want to keep you here, but 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:08.280 are we even doing the work that needs to be done. 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:10.839 So ultimately, at the end of the day, that's where 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:12.920 we have to start to do more work, is saying 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:15.600 what are the students getting and who do they need 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:17.640 to speak to? So to really touch on the comments 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:19.360 that we were just saying. One of the things that 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:21.080 I can tell all people who are sending any of 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:24.000 their students to college or are going back to school themselves, 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:27.040 is that you have to really find particular individuals on 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:30.280 your campus. I can't stress the I can't stress it 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:32.120 enough that you have to get involved. So I means 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:34.600 you have to find somebody who's already doing the work 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:37.000 and make sure you align yourself with that. Find the 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:39.760 Jeff or the Lenny on your campus and sit in 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:42.720 their office introduce yourselves. Because what ends up happening is 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:44.200 I'm the one that's going to put you in touch 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:47.200 with this person, that person, this individual to help you 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:50.160 succeed because doing it by yourself is literally impossible. 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:52.079 Now we was talking off camera too, and it's difficult 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:55.079 because I think my experience is a little JD because 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:57.840 I was I played basketball, so when I went to school, 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:02.199 I was on athletic scholarship, so anybody's not familiar athletes, 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:04.840 it's different, especially at a Division one school. So when 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:08.320 I got to campus, you know, we had our own 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:10.880 study hall just for the athletes. We had our own 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:14.959 advisor just for the athletes. Our books was free, and 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:17.360 you know, they would stay on us like make sure, 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:19.520 like what are you're doing? Like you just going to class? 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:21.920 You know what I mean. It's like, so it's easier 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:23.080 because it's more structured. 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:26.560 But for somebody that's just going to college on their own, 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:29.120 and especially if you're if you know, your parents didn't 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:31.679 go to college, but you don't your first generation, it's 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:34.080 a lot that goes into college that's different from high school. 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:36.760 Like I remember the vali valedictorian of my school a 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:38.960 couple of years ago that my high school that I 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:40.640 went to. He's a lot younger than me, obviously, and 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:43.360 I spoke to him. He's in Harvard, and I was 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:45.120 asking him, like, how you doing at Harvard, And he's like, 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:47.840 you know, I wasn't prepared. This is the valedictorian of 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:50.280 the school. He's a smart kid, obviously, but he's like 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:52.959 high school was just so easy for me, and I'm 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:55.160 in Harvard and it's just way different. And he was like, 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:58.840 you know, I never realized how much I wasn't prepared 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:01.679 until I was in that position. And I think that 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:03.000 that happens all the time. And like you say, a 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:05.600 lot of times unfortunately, especially you know, you might have 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:08.360 family issues, whatever, the kids just drop out because you know, 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:12.000 you fall behind a couple of semesters and let alone, 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:15.600 not even talking about financial issues, just social issues and 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:19.280 just dealing with school and structuring your time. It's like, 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:23.400 how can somebody fully equip themselves for making that jump 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:24.640 from high school to college? 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:27.960 First you sign up with Trill or not Trill, but uh, 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:31.360 you know, to fully equip yourself, it takes a lot. 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:34.080 And this is where we have to really invest. We 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:36.160 were just talking about that off camera too, about how 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:38.440 much money you place on a college. 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:40.120 Degree, whether you're going there for free or you're paying 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:40.720 full tuition. 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:44.000 There's no I mean, outside of a house, there's no 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:47.560 larger investment that you're really making probably throughout your life. 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:49.920 And in the same way that you invest in the house, 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:52.560 you're searching for multiple houses. But then even before that, 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:54.880 you want to know how is the house, How you 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:55.840 know how is it built? 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:57.480 What was? What do I have to do to fix 0:14:57.520 --> 0:14:58.000 this space? 0:14:58.160 --> 0:14:59.600 What do I have to do to make sure that 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:01.600 my family, if I want to start a family, goes 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:03.600 in here. It can't just be let me just show up, 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:04.720 pull up and figure out. 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:05.800 The rest investment? 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:06.240 Right? 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:08.680 And so what what the what people have to do 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:11.280 is is really start to invest in the child and 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:14.000 the student's education before they even get in there and 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:17.120 find the programs. Because colleges and universities some of them 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:18.640 will do it, but a lot of them will not, 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:20.280 and say, listen, we're going to give you a two 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:23.520 day orientation session to figure out how to succeed in college. 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:27.120 And you know you and they're trying to holler at 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:29.800 other people you and they're trying to have fun, you know, 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:31.000 because they're also doing that too. 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:34.560 There's a DJ at that thing directors there. 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:36.640 You're sitting here thinking like, man, I don't even know 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:39.920 what registraw is. And I remember, like as a college student, 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:41.720 I was like, is it register And they're like, no, 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:43.160 it's registrar. 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:44.560 And I'm like, why what does that even mean? 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:45.960 For class? 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:47.640 Correct when you're registering for class? 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:51.160 So there are these simple little things that that students 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:53.560 aren't prepared for and so for me, I just think 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:55.560 that you have to invest in the same way that 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:57.000 you would invest in a house, the same way that 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:59.840