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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, announcer man. It's the Happy Hour

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Speaker 1: the Happy Hour. I'm Kevin kat Turner. In Tonight's panel

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Speaker 1: is very nice. I like tonight's panel quite a solid.

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Speaker 1: Now normally I say that I like the panel, but

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Speaker 1: I really like the panel. All right. Now, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: start with one of my favorite athletes of all time,

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Speaker 1: athletes ever, one of my favorite ever, making me bliss.

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Speaker 1: He's one of my favorite dudes. And I haven't been

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Speaker 1: covering the Cowboys is as long as maybe Mickey and

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Speaker 1: Rob have. But Ferry Churches in the house you and

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Speaker 1: that's one of my favorite dudes in the world. It's

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Speaker 1: time to church. Appreciate it, man, thanks for having me

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Speaker 1: on the solo. Man, this is awesome. Mickey Spagnola's in

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Speaker 1: the house, all right, yeah it is. I like your

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Speaker 1: energy bringing the energy and I all right, it's the

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Speaker 1: Happy Hour. See. The great thing about this show is

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Speaker 1: we've kind of reached the point of the week and

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday night, people are starting to get their wheels

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Speaker 1: turning towards the weekend. Even if the Cowboys don't play

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Speaker 1: this week, It's okay, that's what happens in here, by

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Speaker 1: the way, on Wednesday nights. Now, Yeah, yeah, kind of

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Speaker 1: always helps too, It's true. And that's the voice of

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips of Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Hello, Rob Blushing two.

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Speaker 1: That's two weeks in a row on the Happy Hour

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Speaker 1: for Rob, so I leant to say, can we do

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Speaker 1: three in a row next week? I'll say, your Rob

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Speaker 1: out here, buddy. And then to my right he is

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Speaker 1: from the Sean and RJ Morning Show and one oh

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Speaker 1: college radio broadcast with my good friend of almost ten years,

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Speaker 1: Roy White, is in the house. Hello Roy, Thank you

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Speaker 1: very much. What a kind intro man. Now, where would

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Speaker 1: that be a great friend of mine? At the k

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Speaker 1: Intu student station up in a day, I know where

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Speaker 1: that is. Kntu. That's right, sir. Make sure you get

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Speaker 1: those call letters and little texas right right, that's correct.

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Speaker 1: The old six minutes ap you know, rip and read broadcast. Right.

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Speaker 1: So you guys were trained, Well, that's all right. They

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Speaker 1: gave us seven. They gave us seven minutes. We were

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Speaker 1: actually kind of rebels, uh in that stage. But cowboys

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Speaker 1: don't call over the Eagles thirty seven to ten, My goodness,

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Speaker 1: very Let's start with you. Did you anticipate that big

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Speaker 1: of a drumming on Sunday night? I'm not gonna I

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Speaker 1: did not anticipate that. Now. I thought, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: But um, I didn't see that coming at all. I mean,

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Speaker 1: did not see that one coming. Now, what about you, guys.

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Speaker 1: I had a two point victory for the Cowboys. I

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Speaker 1: and every you know what, I was pure pressured into

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Speaker 1: it by people on Twitter calling me a homer, and

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Speaker 1: I'll pick the Eagles this time, and people were come

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Speaker 1: So you know, it happen just usual knowledge. Don't don't

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Speaker 1: So I didn't see there was any more exuberance in there,

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Speaker 1: we don't need to test them, just put them out there. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Tank said. Oh that stuff resonates, right, and the Peterson

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Speaker 1: And I think that's what it did to the Marcus Lawrence.

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Speaker 1: they don't. That was a shock. Last year was an outlier, right,

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Speaker 1: was a ten year outlier. Right? But though, yeah, players

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Speaker 1: like that's just that was a team just trying to

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Speaker 1: get rid and start over. I mean that that's deep.

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Speaker 1: I guess they got Robert Quinn for a very small price.

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Speaker 1: But but that's that's very unusual. Well, let's look at

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Speaker 1: the team starting over. The Bengals got a guy, you know,

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Speaker 1: I believe Geno Atkins is still playing football. His money's bad,

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Speaker 1: His money's gonna hurt that's probably true. That's probably true.

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Speaker 1: But if I'm just trying to look creatively, you know,

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Speaker 1: Miami seems to be out of it. Arizona might think

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Speaker 1: to themselves, we got a future, but if we can

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Speaker 1: offload something, I'm just trying to think creative because I

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Speaker 1: don't see any White Knight coming to save them in

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Speaker 1: that regard, and if that's not going to be there,

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Speaker 1: I think we could find these struggles come back up,

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Speaker 1: especially when they play teams, you know, like the Minnesota

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Speaker 1: Vikings coming up in a few weeks that can really

443
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Speaker 1: run the ball down your throat with Dalvin Cook, like

444
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Speaker 1: the New England Patriots are going to give you tons

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Speaker 1: of different looks on the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 1: So um, there are reasons to be concerned. But at

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Speaker 1: least right now, you know, we're flying pretty high off

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Speaker 1: of that win. The names that would dangle and they

449
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Speaker 1: get we talk about them a lot, but you wouldn't

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Speaker 1: sign them, probably because they're older guys and you might

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Speaker 1: be able to get a comp pick back from them

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Speaker 1: would be Gerald McCord. And there's been tied to here

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Speaker 1: for years. It seems like I don't know if that's

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Speaker 1: just a fan base thing or a media narrative. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how if they're interested. I don't know about

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Speaker 1: Sue and Tampa Bay's record is they're more willing to

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Speaker 1: move away. He's still got it from what I'm seeing,

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Speaker 1: and I've just flying around on the red zone coat

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Speaker 1: or whatever. He's still got it. A name that was

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Speaker 1: thrown out to me yesterday was Denver. Denver's They're they

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Speaker 1: just traded Emmanuel Sanders, so they're probably filling in the towel.

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Speaker 1: There's Shelby Harris and Shelby Harris is more of a

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Speaker 1: oh dere name, but him and Shelby Harris, these are

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Speaker 1: good names. Can I get play us Campbell? Okay? Can

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Speaker 1: we do want that contracts? Yeah? You know that, I

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Speaker 1: will say, but his contracts of beasts. As we're talking

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Speaker 1: about our concerns on the defensive, I will I do

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Speaker 1: want to highlight one thing that I think they're doing

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Speaker 1: really well and that maybe hasn't been talked about about enough.

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Speaker 1: They're getting off the field on third down. They're the

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Speaker 1: second best team in the league in third down opponents

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Speaker 1: percentage twenty six percent. They're holding opponents to get off

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Speaker 1: the field. So one thing that they are doing that, Ben,

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Speaker 1: don't break. If we can prevent those massive plays like

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Speaker 1: you mentioned, Mickey to play with that, the jet score

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Speaker 1: that really turned the game around, the ninety two yard um.

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Speaker 1: If they can stay away from those types of plays,

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Speaker 1: this is a This is a good this is a

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Speaker 1: good defense. Even that Saints game was it four field

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Speaker 1: goals and it was a night job, but it was there.

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Speaker 1: Weren't the splash plays, the big plays behind the line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage. And that's why you know when you got

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Speaker 1: Lane Vanderesh doing the howl and all that stuff the

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Speaker 1: other night, That's that's where this defense gets us stared back.

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Speaker 1: I get that hype, they get that juice. They really

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Speaker 1: needed that they needed. You want to admit you ever

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Speaker 1: been on the field for a ninety two yard payoff?

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Speaker 1: Have you ever seen? I mean I've never even yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've never seen one. I've seen was on the field.

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Speaker 1: This is true. Ninety nine yard run. I've seen it

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Speaker 1: happen hapen up in the box. And when Derreck Henry

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Speaker 1: just ran last year, he right, yeah, and he's not

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Speaker 1: even like seen as a speed demon. Seems kind of

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Speaker 1: a plotting back because I'm figured he wasn't there for

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Speaker 1: door sets? Right? Yeah, you probably missed that one of

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Speaker 1: us was that was it? Yeah? Yes, you guess. I

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Speaker 1: do want to talk about I won't do this in

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Speaker 1: the next segment. Do you want to talk about though

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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey got traded played them last year? That's interesting,

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Speaker 1: and maybe talk a little bit about the quarterback and

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Speaker 1: how people are feeling about Dac. That's next on the

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Speaker 1: Happy Hour brought to you by s WBC Mortgage. I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm Kevin Katy Turner. Tonight's panel features four other gentlemen

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Speaker 1: besides myself, Barry Church Yes, Indeedy, that's right, Mickey Spagnoll

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Speaker 1: of Dallas Cowboys dot Com, Rob Phillips of Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: dot Com, and my good friend Roy White of Sean

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Speaker 1: and RJ five thirty to ten on one oh five

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Speaker 1: three the Fan. Now, Barry, well, remember your days here

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Speaker 1: in Dallas. But I thought it was interesting that we

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Speaker 1: saw Jalen Ramsey get traded a couple of weeks ago

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Speaker 1: for two first round picks. You obviously in the same

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Speaker 1: defensive backgroup with him. Your thoughts on him and and

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Speaker 1: the trade. Is that the type of compensation that is

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Speaker 1: worthy for a guy like him? I mean two first

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Speaker 1: round picks that that was kind of Steve, Really Steve,

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Speaker 1: I mean, don't get me run it, dude. It's a

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Speaker 1: hell of a player, man. I mean, he has a

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Speaker 1: passion for the game that was probably only matched by

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Speaker 1: Dez Bryan when I was here with him. I mean,

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Speaker 1: his passion is unbelievable. Um, he's I mean, I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: call him a leader of men, but he can get

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Speaker 1: everybody else pretty much, you know, ready for the game.

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Speaker 1: I mean, just by his passion for it. A loan

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Speaker 1: and he's gonna go out there and he's gonna talk

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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff, but he goes out there and

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Speaker 1: and backs it up as well. So I have no

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Speaker 1: problem with guys talk like that when they can go

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Speaker 1: out there and back it up. Two first round picks.

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Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure I'm sold on that one. But

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Speaker 1: the guy's a hell of a player, and as you

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Speaker 1: saw out there in the Atlanta game, he was able

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Speaker 1: to go out there and impose his will and he

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Speaker 1: mean he forced to fumble out there, and he did

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Speaker 1: well against Julio Jones. So hey, hats goes off to him.

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Speaker 1: Did you drive the Brinks truck when he showed up?

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Speaker 1: Nick loves props if that's who you are, Like, hey,

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Speaker 1: go for it, all in on it. I'm doing the

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Speaker 1: bits that it's great. I also I also think the

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Speaker 1: Rams are kind of doing bits because this is a

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Speaker 1: steep price that you said. If you extend this out

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Speaker 1: and assume they don't get another make some trade to

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Speaker 1: get a first rounder back, they're gonna go five years

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Speaker 1: in a row without getting a first round pick. That's

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00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: a heavy price to pay. Just not how this league

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Speaker 1: works in the salary cap era anymore. So the GM

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Speaker 1: doesn't have to answer to anybody, does he. That's kind

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Speaker 1: of make it happen, right, And they're just you know,

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Speaker 1: I'll lose my job at some point and somebody else

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Speaker 1: will not have first round picks. Yeah, you know, it's interesting,

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Speaker 1: Like you know, Houston was doing that, and it's like

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Speaker 1: their head coaches and they're making plays and trading away

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Speaker 1: future first terms. They probably gonna get fire, but I'll

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Speaker 1: trade these first rounders. I just thought that's, uh, that's interesting.

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Speaker 1: We're seeing a little a little bit of moving the

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Speaker 1: trade deadlines next week, and we're seeing a lot of

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Speaker 1: movement around the league. The Patriots get muhammas a new

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Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers go ahead and get Emmanuel Sanders.

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Speaker 1: I think, well too, I don't know what to think

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Speaker 1: about Sarah. And they're giving up much right now they

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Speaker 1: have one of them. Yeah, and and the Patriots gave

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Speaker 1: up a second so you know, it's pretty good that

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Speaker 1: that's a late too. And he's got another year on

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Speaker 1: his contract. They just put Josh Gordon on injured reserves

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Speaker 1: as of today, so clearly they were telegraphing that move.

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Speaker 1: They knew that was coming, and they swung a deal

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Speaker 1: to get Muhammed Sanu in at a at a not

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Speaker 1: a totally unreasonable prices because of the extra year. If

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Speaker 1: it was just this year, a second rounder seems steep.

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Speaker 1: So your assessment of those two wide receivers, uh Sanu

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Speaker 1: and what was looking and Sanders and Sanders. Sanu I

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Speaker 1: feel like he's a big body possession receiver that m

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Speaker 1: doesn't need great separation from the decase of back to

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Speaker 1: make the catch. And I feel like that'll work great

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Speaker 1: for for Tom Brady and the Boys. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: feel like he's accurate enough to get receivers the ball

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Speaker 1: even if they're smothered by the defensive back. So I

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Speaker 1: think he'll he'll he'll prove to have great dividends for

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Speaker 1: them going forward. And then, um, the other got Sanders.

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Speaker 1: I just think he's a crafty guy. I like his game.

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Speaker 1: He's fast, he's crafty, he seems to get opens. He

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Speaker 1: can run after the catch as well as anybody. So

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Speaker 1: I think they're I think they're pretty good choices. I

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Speaker 1: have a stinky feeling about both of those two players too,

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Speaker 1: both of them former quarterbacks. I bet you we see

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Speaker 1: both Mohammed Sanu and Emmanuel Sanders throw a pass in

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Speaker 1: their new uniform. That's interesting. We haven't here yet, we're

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Speaker 1: saying that, but you never know. I guess true, we're

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Speaker 1: saving that for the road game, but they were saving

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Speaker 1: it with Dez Bryan and that saved it too long.

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Speaker 1: That sounds like a Patriots play for me. Speaking of

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Speaker 1: Randall cob Real, quick has had a quick question, do

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Speaker 1: you think Beasley or Cole? Which one? Do you think?

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Speaker 1: Cobb for me won that whole Cob for me, and

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Speaker 1: I don't have any hesitation about saying it. Um, I

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Speaker 1: think Cole Beasley was a nice player. I think Cobb

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Speaker 1: is a much more talented and complete wide receiver. Um.

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Speaker 1: He can still hurt you downfield a little bit. He's

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Speaker 1: still he's got a little bit more burst than Beasley.

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Speaker 1: I think Beasley is better in the tight spaces and

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Speaker 1: his ability to like cut and create separation in tight

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Speaker 1: spaces is valuable. But I think Randall Cobb is the

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Speaker 1: overall better receiver. And I was happy when they got

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Speaker 1: him at virtually the same amount of money per year

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Speaker 1: that Cole Beasley signed for him, but only one year. True,

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Speaker 1: only one year, and it's only one year because it's

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Speaker 1: a prove it year for a guy who quite frankly,

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Speaker 1: had a couple of down years in Green Bay, and

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Speaker 1: had he kept up what he was doing up to

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Speaker 1: that point, probably would have made closer to seven or

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Speaker 1: eight million dollars. I think the thing about Cobb that's interesting,

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Speaker 1: and then the price is there, and who knows if

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Speaker 1: he'll be here if he wants to stay here. I

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Speaker 1: do think that his injury history was a little exaggerated.

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Speaker 1: He didn't have a serious thing, but he had these

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Speaker 1: nagging injuries. Didn't start quite frankly in week seven, week eight,

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Speaker 1: where we've seen him happen this year. But if he's

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Speaker 1: there for you in the playoffs, I mean Cole and

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Speaker 1: we've seen Cole Beasley make plays down the field, but

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Speaker 1: he's just such a stationary most of the time. Now.

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Speaker 1: That could be due to the scheme sometimes or whatever

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Speaker 1: and what he was asked to do. But I think

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Speaker 1: Cobb can do a little more and has a little

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Speaker 1: bit more not that Cole didn't have this, but Cob

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Speaker 1: has a little bit more just kind of feel what

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Speaker 1: the quarterback's gonna do, you know. And I think we've

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Speaker 1: seen it work pretty pretty well so far. I think

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Speaker 1: the early returns has been great. And you know what,

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Speaker 1: Cole Beasley has been great for Buffalo too. Yeah, I mean, Bear,

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Speaker 1: you played with Cole a long time. He was so

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Speaker 1: dependable for Dak, for Tony in that short area quickness,

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Speaker 1: some of the underneath stuff. I do think, yeah, Cob

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Speaker 1: might bring more of a yards after catch thing, and

638
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 1: he had a seventy two yard touchdown I believe called

639
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: back and I think he's I wrote about this yere

640
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: in the week. I think he's due for a breakout

641
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: game because that play. There's been some other ones that

642
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 1: he and Dak just kind of missed on. He might

643
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: be a guy to watch the second half of the season.

644
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 1: And he's also playing. They got three opponents coming up

645
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: that he played twice a year in the past, So

646
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: maybe those NFC North games, maybe he's a guy that

647
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: can that can break out based on familiarity. You know,

648
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 1: there was actually a report done that was keeping track

649
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: of the players who have lost the most yards to

650
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: penalties this season, and through five weeks Randall Cobb was

651
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: in the top three in the NFL. I'm sure he

652
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 1: was penalties now, A lot of it again, as you mentioned,

653
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: was because of that big seventy two yarder they got

654
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: called back, but he was still well over one hundred

655
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 1: and thirty yards of lost yardage because of penalties. So

656
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: you what really hurt them against the Jets, You know,

657
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: you lost Cooper. If Cobb was healthy and playing, they

658
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: would have put him out there as the second receiver

659
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: on the outside because he can do that. Yeah, and

660
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: you lost both of them, right, And now you're dealing

661
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: with and Michael gallops better than he played in that,

662
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: but he's still a second year player. Then you're Cedric Wilson,

663
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: who's basically a rookie because he missed all of last year.

664
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 1: He got Ventel Brian out there, and he probably doesn't

665
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 1: even know the players yet he knows special teams. You're

666
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: on the gunner there, you go get the yeah, and

667
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: then Tavon Austin's not used to plan outside all of

668
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: a sudden, you're hamstrung. Boy, if they had Cobb in

669
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 1: that game, I think it would have made a huge

670
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: difference here, you know. And as it turned out, with

671
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 1: all the guys you missed, you lost by two points,

672
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: you lost by a two point conversion, You lost by

673
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: a ninety two yard pass. Go figure that stuff, you know,

674
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: and in not making excuses, this is what happened tangibly

675
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 1: in the game, you know. And gosh, the good thing

676
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: is is they didn't bury their head in the sand, right,

677
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: They came back and played. I think the takeaway from

678
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,240
Speaker 1: that make though, is when they put it all together,

679
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 1: they could blow out these terrible teams. And when it

680
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:46,479
Speaker 1: all goes badly for them, they're still gonna have a chance.

681
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: They still might have a chance, because the truth is

682
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: they've had a chance in every single loss this season,

683
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 1: more than a chance. That is true. Here's a question

684
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: I've gotten all week, though, is okay that's fine because

685
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: I think we talk about some of these little things

686
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: that could have gone the other way, and if you

687
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: defended or try to look at the right side of it,

688
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: you're gonna get set. You're gonna get told that you're

689
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: making excuses. Yeah. Uh, that's just it's just how it

690
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: works when you lose three in a row. But we

691
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: have the Giants after the bye week. We're not gonna

692
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: overlook that game. Giants can absolutely beat you, but they're

693
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: gonna get their chance because a lot of people are

694
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: going with this stuff beating anyone. What if the Eagles

695
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: aren't that good? You know, and that that that's very

696
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: possible in the locker room internally, Yeah, yeah, we'll see

697
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: when you see that blowing up down and that can

698
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 1: happen fast. I mean, I mean, Bury, your team was

699
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: great two years ago, ANFC championship with Jacksonville. Whatever happened

700
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: last year, it happened yea, it happened to start out

701
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: too and oh and then boom they happened. That's the

702
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: second time he's mentioned that to you. They're they're gonna

703
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: get a chance to get the Vikings team soon, the

704
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: Vikings team who is looking pretty good right now, right now,

705
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: and we'll see, you know, if they Feeland turt so

706
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 1: maybe maybe that won't last for them. Maybe that's a

707
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: big injury for them. They they're gonna get New England.

708
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: You know, they're gonna get some big games in the

709
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: next couple of months. Where I guess in the next month,

710
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: really where I think fans are going, Well, they haven't

711
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: beat anybody, can go well, let's see how they do again,

712
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: some of these teams are likely going to be in

713
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: the playoffs because listen, I just I don't see how

714
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: in the NFC. The NFC is loaded. The AFC is

715
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: the Patriots, and we'll see what the Chiefs are when

716
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: Mahomes is bad. That's the AFC. Maybe Baltimore can speak

717
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: out and beat you. Maybe Baltimore can beat you, but

718
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: they're not on that level. Yeah, I would agree. In

719
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 1: the NFC, if you make the playoffs, you're a good team.

720
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: It is stacked and it's it's look around. It might

721
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: need eleven wins if you're a wild card team. So

722
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: we we discussed this today and you mentioned the games

723
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 1: coming up after the Giants, right, so, oh yeah, we

724
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: broke down the whole schedule. Didn't write five five gauntlets.

725
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna assume anything, but you would think they

726
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 1: should be able to beat the Giants, right, yeah. So

727
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 1: you get in Minnesota here, who's gonna be favored? That's

728
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 1: prime time too, right, yeah, Cowboys should be slightly okay,

729
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: And then I got to go to Detroit. They will

730
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: be favored, I think in all right, tough place to play,

731
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: tough place to play, but they will be favorite. And

732
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 1: then New England they won't be favored. Okay, is that

733
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: a New England? Yes, Buffalo, Buffalo here, thanks Thanksgiving Day,

734
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 1: tough game that'll probably be favored because again the Bills

735
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: are five, and all the teams that they have beat,

736
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: it's the Bengals, the Jets, the red Skins, the Dolphins.

737
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: They messed around. It's nothing. It's nothing but teams that

738
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: would say So then you gotta go a night game

739
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Speaker 1: in Chicago, and and that one, I'm not sure what

740
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: the Bears are right, yeah, beld but is Trubisky the quarterback,

741
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: Chase Daniel the quarterback? You know, Cam Newton? What are

742
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: the Bears? I mean, what are the Bears? Right? So,

743
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 1: because we were discussing, you're gonna win one you shouldn't. Well,

744
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: when I looked at all those games, the one you

745
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: shouldn't maybe is New England. Yeah, but the rest of them,

746
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: if you play smart football the way they did Sunday night,

747
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: and I think you've lost the one you shouldn't already.

748
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: That one's out of the way, right, Yeah, So that's

749
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: the only one that's sweet, or maybe two of them

750
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: you shouldn't. Well. Yeah. I think people don't like to

751
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: hear the word execution because like it just seems very

752
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: coach speak and it's just you know, like you heard it,

753
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: but that it's the difference in those games. It is

754
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: the specific difference. Execute the third and one and then

755
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: the fourth and two in New York, maybe the ninety

756
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: two yard bomb doesn't happen, you know, or execute the

757
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: coverage on that or what have you know? And then

758
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: and it's I mean, we've seen that the Jets can

759
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: beat you, the Giants can go beat you. The Bills

760
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: can one of the girls are kind of good. But

761
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: like these teams can can't beat you because there ain't

762
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: that much of a difference. Like I'm just thinking, we're

763
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: watching like getting ready for the draft, and we're looking

764
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: at wide receivers or corners. Well he runs a four

765
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: four seven, Well he runs a four to five two.

766
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: We'll stop and think about the difference and what that is.

767
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: It's not that much in real life. And that's the separation, right,

768
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: what was yours all? Was up in the four I

769
00:42:58,280 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: think I was a four six guy. I think I

770
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: was like four six two, But I was up here.

771
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: Had it all appeared over his mind made him a

772
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Speaker 1: four four? All right? Coming up next, we still haven't

773
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Speaker 1: talked about the quarterback as promised and other stuff. That's

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784
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786
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Speaker 1: is Barry Chart. Yes, indeed, right the meeting, Barry, how

787
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 1: are you feeling about Dak? How did you feel Da

788
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: coming into the season, and how do you feel about

789
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: Dak now coming into this very season? Yes, well, coming

790
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: into this season, you know, I thought, I think that

791
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: he's a pretty good quarterback, you know, but I've always

792
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: kind of thought he was kind of just, you know,

793
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: he needed other pieces around him to be successful, and

794
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: coming into this season, I mean that that hasn't wavered

795
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: my thoughts at all. Um. I feel like, you know,

796
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: when when he has Cooper in there, he plays at

797
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: an astronomical level. But when we saw when Cooper wasn't there,

798
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: it's kind of hard for him, especially, you know, when

799
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: when the running game is not going as well as either.

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00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: He kind of struck us a little bit. But I

801
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: still feel like he's a good quarterback. And I feel

802
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: like he will get his payday coming soon. But I

803
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 1: just think he's a really good game manager. No disrespect,

804
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: but just really good game in And I know you

805
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: guys went away in thought that Jets game for Dak.

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00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: To me, I viewed that entire game from his standpoint

807
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: as a positive. Yeven how many times he was punched

808
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: in the mouth and not playing with his tackles, And

809
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 1: then you go look at how well they executed on

810
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: third down, and they were running the ball a ton

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Speaker 1: and putting themselves in kind of third down in long

812
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: situations some of the time in that second half trying

813
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Speaker 1: to come back, and they were actually really good on

814
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: third down offensively, and I just took away. I thought

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00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: that game but to me was a big stepping stone

816
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: in Dak's career. Maybe I'm over exaggerating it and being

817
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: too narrow based, but that game. He ain't been hit

818
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: like that in the NFL. Like that game, even in

819
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: Atlanta when he got sacked six times by that one

820
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: guy forgot the guy's never forget it. He won't. He

821
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: won't either. He made his retirement check on that game. Hey,

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Speaker 1: So we talked about this today and I saw three

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Speaker 1: stats that I thought were really important to where he

824
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: was and I don't know where you guys were on

825
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: him or whatever, but he used to get criticized for

826
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Speaker 1: his completion percentage. He wasn't accurate. Well, he's complete and

827
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Speaker 1: seventy percent of his passes. It's third in the NFL

828
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: right now. He didn't throw the ball down the field.

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Speaker 1: He's got the third best per attempt average in the

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Speaker 1: league right now. And the other one, Rob, you're gonna

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00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: have to help me with it. He was third in

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Speaker 1: oh yards yards yeah, yard pars in general. Yeah, okay,

833
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: and this was the team that doesn't throw the ball

834
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 1: right they want to run it, they want to run

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Speaker 1: on first down. He's third in yards right now. Well,

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00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: that can be a little misleading because because because they

837
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: played seven games, because Patrick Mahomes didn't finish your game

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00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: in one, Mahomes is one of them that's ahead of them. Okay,

839
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Speaker 1: but even still, it's it's very impressive. And don't get

840
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: me wrong, I want to I want to pile onto

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Speaker 1: those numbers about how impressive Dak has been is it's

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00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 1: not just been the accuracy that you mentioned. This third

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Speaker 1: in the league. If you break it down into the

844
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 1: positions on the field that he is throwing into. He

845
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: is also amongst the league leaders underneath passing, Dak is

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00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: completing eighty eight point four percent of his passes. Intermediate

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Speaker 1: routes he's completing seventy six percent intermediate being ten to

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Speaker 1: twenty yards, and on deep passes he's completing sixty eight

849
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Speaker 1: percent of his passes. All three of those numbers would

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Speaker 1: be number one in the NFL. There's just some sta

851
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Speaker 1: for that for that distance. I always had a problem

852
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Speaker 1: with the narrative that some people would say he's just

853
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: a game manager, just a bus driver, and I'm like,

854
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Speaker 1: not really. I mean, first of all, and everyone I

855
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: wanted to kill Lenahan, Lenahan should get a little credit

856
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Speaker 1: for twenty sixteen, I think because just because you had

857
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Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback, a fourth n rookie quarterback, and somehow

858
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 1: they made it work right, So he should get a

859
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: little credit for that. But like he's throwing the ball

860
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Speaker 1: down the field now, as Roy mentioned, the yards per

861
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Speaker 1: attempt is top five in the league. And the thing

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Speaker 1: I'll say about Dak, and I've been a defender, as

863
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Speaker 1: Roy can attest, because one of his co hosts on

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Speaker 1: the show killed he killed me for it going into it.

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00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: Why do you want to pay Dack thirty something million?

866
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, I wanted to pay him

867
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Speaker 1: thirty two, because now it's gonna cost you thirty six

868
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 1: or thirty eight. Yeah, definitely, I want to get it

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Speaker 1: done now because I don't think And also, this is

870
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 1: year four. Quarterbacks, you guys have been in the league,

871
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: they generally take that step if they've been showing things.

872
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: If you look at Russell Wilson's first three years in

873
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: the league and go pull up Dack's numbers, you're very comparable,

874
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: very comparable. And then what some things like golf can't do.

875
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: Golf can't scramble. I know he heard us in that

876
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 1: playoff game, but golf can't scramble. DAK is a weapon,

877
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 1: dual threat weapon, and you have to account for that.

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00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, who DAK always gets compared to because that

879
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,399
Speaker 1: draft bass. Carson Wentzy trying to run anymore. He's hurt,

880
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: he driving rout. You watch him play, he's discouraged. Right,

881
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: it's been two years since they've been in the same

882
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 1: class of quarterback. Yeah, quite honestly, Yeah, oh yeah, it

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00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: has been Yeah. I like the Russell Wilson comparison, because

884
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: early in his career he had Marshawn Lynch and it

885
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 1: was kind of built around that, that great defense to

886
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 1: great defense. And now this is still built though around Zeke,

887
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: and I think it is such a benefit having him,

888
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,399
Speaker 1: Zeke number twenty one in there to balance this thing out.

889
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: I don't want Dak throwing forty times a game. That

890
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,720
Speaker 1: means probably something's wrong now, and that yards per attempt

891
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 1: could go down as the weather gets colder a little bit,

892
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: some of the defenses that you're playing and you're gonna

893
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: need to lean on Zeke. And but no question he's

894
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 1: able to move the ball down the field more than

895
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: maybe some think. So that balance is key for Dak Prescott.

896
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: No doubt. They're the only team in the league that

897
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Speaker 1: has a player in the top five of passing, rushing,

898
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: and receiving, so that balance has obviously been key to

899
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 1: his success. Like said, a lot of weapons around. You

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00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: mentioned the third down success that they had in this

901
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: last game against the Eagles. We mentioned the defensive third

902
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: down success and they've had only the Patriots are better.

903
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: What do you think the Cowboys third down percentage is

904
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 1: in the NFL? On the offensive side of the ball.

905
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,919
Speaker 1: They are I know, they're near the top of the league.

906
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Speaker 1: They are number one. I was gonna guess two, but okay,

907
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:38,720
Speaker 1: it's yes. Converting. Actually, they're the only team over fifty percent.

908
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: They're completing fifty one percent of their third down conversions.

909
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 1: But the development of Dak, I think can be seen

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00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: in another statistic, right, And I know I've been throwing

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00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: a lot of stats at you guys. I apologize. I'm

912
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Speaker 1: a big stats Wait wait, we caught onto that. Yeah,

913
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: it's kind of how I do it. But one of

914
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Speaker 1: the things that Dak has become elite at in the NFL,

915
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 1: and if you want to be great in the NFL,

916
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 1: you need to become an elite against this. It is

917
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: the blitz. When defenses try to blitz Dak Prescott, he

918
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: has completed seventy five percent of his passes. He's thrown

919
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: for five hundred yards on fifty five attempts and three touchdowns.

920
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: He's converted twenty nine first downs, and he has thrown

921
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 1: zero interceptions against the blitz, Ladies and gentlemen, if you

922
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: want development from your young quarterback and to see what

923
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 1: kind of steps he's taken into his game going forward.

924
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 1: Take a look at what he does when the defense

925
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: tries to confuse him, When the defense tries to bring

926
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 1: things that make him uncomfortable, that is when Dak Prescott

927
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 1: might be at his most comfortable. In twenty right, he

928
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 1: has a scene of ghost since Clayborn. He's crazy. I

929
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 1: think the thing he struggles with the most is identifying

930
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: man in his own coverages. We can't saw it in

931
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 1: the Green Bay game, but if you look like the

932
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,320
Speaker 1: Jets were going all in withf Greg Williams bringing the

933
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 1: blitz all day, and he busted some of that. To

934
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: Roy's point, yeah, they had a lot of short completion

935
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: on that and the Eagles. That's a pretty smart thing

936
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Speaker 1: to do when you're missing two tackles. And now the

937
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,399
Speaker 1: Eagles get voting up the box as well. The team

938
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Speaker 1: who's help who stopped the Cowboys the most is the

939
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 1: Saints in a really good defense, but they just kind

940
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: of rushed forward and played seven and coverage the entire game.

941
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Speaker 1: Give me those two fumbles back and I got a

942
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: different ball game. I agree. Now, when I struggle in

943
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: the morning, when we talk about Dak, I'm yelling at Roy,

944
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: where are you? Roy? Roy's usually a Roy. Yeah, I'm

945
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 1: gonna help me. Even the other room helped me getting

946
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: bludgeoned death. He Roy, that's all right, you'll hear me.

947
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go where's Roy Roys And they're warming up

948
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: their coffee or something. They just don't treat well, that's

949
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 1: not the right. They treat me great. They tribute great.

950
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: Listen five thirty to ten. We'd love to have you

951
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: all right, Barry. Who's the toughest toughest matchup you've ever

952
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 1: had in your career? Toughest guy to cover, toughest guy

953
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:51,879
Speaker 1: to cover. And I didn't even have to cover room,

954
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: but he kind of made us all look like fools

955
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 1: out there. It was Colmin Johnson, man, I've played against

956
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 1: twice and he made us look like fools both times.

957
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: I mean, the I'm back it was. I think it

958
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 1: was in Dallas home against them. I think they came back.

959
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: I mean there was one play and I don't know why,

960
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: but somebody sent the poster to me. Was yeah, it was.

961
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 1: It was in the mail and everything like, oh I'm

962
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 1: getting a sweep, And it was Calvin Johns going up

963
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 1: on me, Mike Jenkins and Sean Lee in the back

964
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: of the end zone. I mean it was complete disrespect.

965
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: But the guy was unbelievable. Then the next time I played,

966
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: and I think he went for three hundred yards on

967
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 1: us that and that Detroit. He like broke the record

968
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 1: or something crazy. That's what Dez wasn't too happy on

969
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: the man. Yeah, he was unreal. Um yeah, so he

970
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 1: was the hardest you know, just offensive weapon I think

971
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: I've ever won again US. Do you have your career

972
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: game for a moment that stands out more than any other? Well,

973
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 1: I think it was my first touchdown. Man uh tore

974
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: my achilles a year before. So it was twenty and

975
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 1: thirteen coming back, first game against the Giants, and I

976
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 1: think we had like six turnovers that game and it

977
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: was something unbelievable. But somebody forced a fumble. I scooped up,

978
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: ran an end zone, arms out, I threw the ball

979
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,919
Speaker 1: on the stand and that cost me like five thousand dollars,

980
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: which I'll never do that again. If you could celebrate

981
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: like the groups of today, would you do the group celebration?

982
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: For sure? I think that's pretty That take you a picture,

983
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,439
Speaker 1: pure you wain't a weird time when they didn't allow

984
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,439
Speaker 1: the fun. It was like there was no fun link

985
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: for a while. It ain't made us put pads in

986
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:23,240
Speaker 1: our pants. It was it was kind of gear jerks

987
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: because my first couple of years there was no pads.

988
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 1: It was just basically like leggings on, you know, and

989
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: then they put the pads and he slow it down,

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00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: Slow you down. All right, guys, it's been a fun night.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. These things go by fast. We

992
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: want to stay another hour quick, absolute pleasure. We could

993
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: stay and chop it up just talking by ourselves. You

994
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 1: just want to get into maybe let's say, yeah, we'll

995
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:51,839
Speaker 1: start previewing the giants already. We are very I'm gonna

996
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 1: take a bye week. I'm preparing for an opponent as

997
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: well as the cowboys said. But thank you so much

998
00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: to give it up for very Church every heaven. Thanks

999
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 1: for having it. This is awesome giving up for Nicky Spagnolah,

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00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 1: let's do it, and just know, just know, at some

1001
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,479
Speaker 1: point Barry's gonna take one of our jobs there. Okay,

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00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 1: we're waiting on this coming. He's really good. Giving up

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00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 1: for Rob Phillips, gentlemen Row and of course Roy White.

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Speaker 1: It's okay to ten class at this point, I appreciate you,

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Speaker 1: ke Kay Turner and until next Wednesday, it's been another

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