1 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, it's your girl Cheeky's and you've reached the 2 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: voicemail box for Dear Cheeky's. I'm here to give you 3 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: advice on anything and everything you need help with. Maybe 4 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: you're going through a breakup, maybe you're having issues with 5 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: your family, or maybe you need help figuring out how 6 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: to balance your checkbook or how to start a business, 7 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: whatever the cases, I want to hear from you. Remember 8 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,599 Speaker 1: these are my thoughts and opinions, and if you're suffering 9 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: from an issue or hardship, you should seek help from 10 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: a qualified professional. All right, Now go ahead and leave 11 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: your question at the sound of. 12 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 2: The beeB, Hi Cheeky's, I just want to stop by 13 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 2: saying that I'm a huge fan of you and your siblings. 14 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: I truly truly admire the strengthing you need that you guys, 15 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: especially given under their circums senses that you guys have 16 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: gone through and continue to go through. So just wanted 17 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: to let you know. But my question for you is 18 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 2: my me and my husband who have been together for 19 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 2: six years but just recently married in May. We've been 20 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 2: having some issues and it has to do with his job. 21 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: So he works in outside cells and part of his 22 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 2: job is to build relationship with customers in order to 23 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 2: get to know their business so that therefore they can 24 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 2: buy product. But in those moments where he is, you know, 25 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 2: building relationships taking them out for lunch, they are drinking 26 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 2: and he is coming home drunk sometimes. And a lot 27 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: of my argument is, you know, he is getting home 28 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: late and drunk, and his excuse is that he's working. 29 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 2: I just want to know, am I overreacting. I know 30 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 2: this is his job, but I'm afraid that he's going 31 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: to continue to use that as an excuse to continue 32 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 2: to do what he's doing. So I just want feedback. 33 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: Thank you, m. 34 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: Mama Setelina. Okay, I'm thinking the reason I said, Anonymous 35 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: listener my favorite is because I wasn't able to say 36 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: that word before you guys, Anonymous. Now I'm like proud 37 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: of myself Anonymous. Okay, let me go back to your question. 38 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: Damn it. And I'm thinking of my situation with the 39 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: media because in my job, I drink when I'm on stage. 40 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 1: I like to drink. It's part of the culture. It's 41 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: part of what helps me enjoy it more because my 42 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: people are drinking, and we've had discussions about it. He's like, 43 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 1: you know what, I wish you didn't have to drink 44 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: so much. And I've said, well, this is my job. 45 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: But he's with me, so that's a difference. Now, since 46 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: he's told me that, hey, don't I wish you didn't 47 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: have to drink so much, I'm like, Okay, what if 48 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: we compromise. What if I still drink but I water 49 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: it down. And that's what I've been doing and it's 50 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: been working wonderfully. I wanted to compromise with him because 51 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: he's important to me. Now I understand that this is 52 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: his job, and of course you're going to go to 53 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: lunch to dinners. I have a question, is it just 54 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: guys or is it girls too? I need to know this. 55 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: I know it's his job, but that's an important question. 56 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: Even if it is dudes, alcohol can bring out not 57 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: can It does bring out the ugly side of us. 58 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: So that's where he needs to be careful because he 59 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: can either make a deal or break a deal with 60 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: his behavior. I think he needs to say, look, you 61 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: can't tell him not to drink. I feel like when 62 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: you start telling no, you can't drink, they want to 63 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: do it more. So you guys have to have a 64 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: conversation and say, look, this is your job, this is 65 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: how you're you know, keeping the roof over our head. 66 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: But can you limit yourself to two drinks? Can you 67 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: please just do that for me, for our relationship, for 68 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: your job, because you getting like plastered. That's not cute either, 69 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like that can cause you 70 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: a lot of issues, like what if you start saying 71 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: some crazy shit like under the influence. He has to 72 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: be careful with that and come home at a decent 73 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 1: time a meeting, Like come on, you don't have to 74 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: be getting home late and super drunk off your ass, 75 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: Like I don't think that that's okay. That's not of 76 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: a married man, of a man that's in a relationship. 77 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: It's gonna cause his shoes, it is. You're gonna feel frustrated. 78 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: You're going to feel also unappreciated. So before that happens, 79 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: you need to nip it in the butt and let 80 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: him know, Hey, I'm not telling you not to drink. 81 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: I'm not telling you to not take these dinners or whatever, 82 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: but please be responsible and please just know you're limits 83 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: and there's no need for you to have a five 84 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: hour meeting, like let's find the middle ground. I really 85 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: think you should have the conversation because you're going to 86 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: start to resent him, and I wouldn't blame you. So yes, 87 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 1: that is my advice to you, and I hope it 88 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: helps let me know. I want to know me. Okay, 89 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: let's move on to the next question, Erica. It comes 90 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: from Erica. 91 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 3: Hello, Jeez, I have a question for you. I've been 92 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 3: married for about seventeen years now. Me and my husband 93 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 3: have the same similar backgrounds as you. Unfortunately we both 94 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 3: don't have our deaths in our lives for the same reason, 95 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 3: I have a question. For the last past seventeen years 96 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 3: that we've been married, we've had four kids, and I 97 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 3: want to say, for the last past two three years, 98 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 3: we've been very distant. He's been very unemotionally available, and 99 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 3: I was wondering how much should I keep putting work 100 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 3: into this relationship and when is giving more energy to 101 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 3: the other partner enough. 102 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: Wow, damn, Erica. This is tough because I can't necessarily 103 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 1: tell you when, Like it's something that you're going to feel, 104 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: because in any relationship, when someone's giving more than the 105 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: other person, you start feeling all kinds of things, Like I 106 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: just told you know our previous listener. You start growing resentment, 107 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: you start feeling unappreciated. It feels very one sided. Your 108 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: heart starts going bankrupt, and that's not a good feeling. 109 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: Been there, I know what that feels like. If he 110 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: is emotionally unavailable, I don't think that something's wrong, but 111 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: you got to check that a little bit, you know 112 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, hey, like you, I don't know 113 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: if you've talked to him and let him know. I 114 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: don't feel seen, I don't feel heard, I don't feel wanted, 115 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: And if you want to continue this relationship, I need 116 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: to feel all of these things. As a woman, all 117 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: we want is for our man to make us feel secure. 118 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: We want security, We want emotional stability, and if you 119 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: don't have that, it's going to cause so much insecurity 120 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: in you, so much doubt. It's just not nice. So 121 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: I think it's been seventeen years. It's not just oh, 122 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to walk away from the relationship. You guys 123 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: have children like. It's just not an easy decision. So 124 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: I understand that. But you do have to remember you're 125 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: in this world and God gave you this life to 126 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: be happy, and if you don't feel happy and loved 127 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: and all these feelings that all humans need. He needs 128 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: to be feeling these things too from you. It's not 129 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: just one sided. Then I don't see how it's going 130 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: to work or how you're going to be able to 131 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: be your best self for your children, for your future, 132 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,559 Speaker 1: for your job, for whatever it is that you're doing. 133 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: Like you need to feel loved, you need to feel whole. 134 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: So only you can answer that question, like when is enough, 135 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, Maybe give it like, Okay, if he 136 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: doesn't fix his shit after I have this conversation with 137 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: him in three months and six months, I'm walking out, 138 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: Like give him the opportunity and let him know all 139 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: that you're feeling and give him the opportunity to correct it. 140 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: But if he doesn't, then that's when you have to say, 141 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: well I tried. Maybe go to therapy, whatever it is 142 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: it like, you need to at least try and just 143 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: say I'm going to try until trying is no longer 144 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 1: an option, and only you know when that is. But 145 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: give yourself that respect and give yourself your place and 146 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: respect that. And if he doesn't do his part, if 147 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: he's not meeting you in the middle, then you need 148 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: to do what you gotta do for yourself, for your kids, 149 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: and for him. If he's not happy, then then how 150 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: is it going to work. You know, if he's not 151 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: happy in the relationship, you know, he's not gonna make 152 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: you happy. So I think you need to have that 153 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: deep conversation. And yeah, I hope that helped Erica, and 154 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: I hope nothing else is going on. I pray that 155 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: nothing else is going on and you guys can fix this. Okay, guys. 156 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: Our final question comes from Liz. 157 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 4: I'm have it, hi, chikys. 158 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 3: Whatever. 159 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 4: First, I just want to thank you so much for 160 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 4: being who you are. I think that you're such a 161 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 4: resilient person and I truly look up to you. I 162 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 4: find myself being able to identify with you so much 163 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 4: just listening to your podcast, and it's always a breath 164 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 4: of fresh air to be able to relate to someone 165 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 4: like you. I recently broke up with my boyfriend of 166 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 4: five years. We've known each other since we were twelve, 167 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 4: and he was in love with me since then. I 168 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 4: decided to give him a chance one day and I 169 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 4: agree to love him, but unfortunately I felt that we 170 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 4: were on two different wavelengths. I was ready for marriage 171 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 4: after five years. Know, and although he said he was 172 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 4: also I just never felt that that was true. So 173 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 4: my question is, how do you make yourself believe that 174 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 4: it's not you that's the problem. You know, many times 175 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 4: I find myself thinking that why didn't he want to 176 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 4: marry me? Or you know, if he wanted to, he 177 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 4: would How do you get you know, these negative thoughts 178 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 4: out and how do you heal from a broken heart? 179 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 1: Thank you, oh Liz, thank you so much for those 180 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: beautiful things that you said. I really appreciate it, And well, 181 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: I think you should be happy and very proud of yourself. 182 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: I'm proud of you for choosing yourself. I know that's 183 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: not an easy decision because especially when you break up 184 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: with someone loving them, been there, done that, it's tough. 185 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: So congratulations, patch yourself on the back, on the booty, 186 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: give yourself a hug for doing that. I think we 187 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: have to understand and just know that. What helps me 188 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: is that person wasn't meant for me. Marrying that person 189 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: wasn't meant for me, That relationship wasn't meant for my future. 190 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: It was just a season to learn to grow and 191 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:28,719 Speaker 1: to prepare me for what's next. I think if he 192 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: didn't show you with his actions that he wanted to 193 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 1: marry you, then that's what it is. Maybe he wasn't ready, 194 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: Maybe he has things that he's working through, and that's okay, 195 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: you know, but you wanted marriage and you know what 196 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: you want. So I think from now on, it's just 197 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: really not necessarily what's wrong with you, But you can 198 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: ask yourself, like, hey, are there certain changes that I 199 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 1: can make so that I don't attract this same situation 200 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: or the same type of guy. That's what I did, 201 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: and that was tough. I was like, Okay, I'm going 202 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: to be real honest with myself. And there were things 203 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,599 Speaker 1: that I hadn't noticed until after, until that I was 204 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: alone that I needed to change so that I could 205 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: be better a better partner. 206 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 2: So only you know. 207 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: What those things are, and just thank God and thank 208 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: Destiny that you know you maybe even dodged a bullet. 209 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: I mean, we don't know, you know. At the end 210 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: of the day, I'm not saying this guy is a 211 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: bad guy. It's just maybe he wasn't ready, and that's okay. 212 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: But I think just thinking the universe and thanking God, like, okay, 213 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna trust your will for my life and you 214 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: will bring me the man that is for me. And 215 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: you have to just trust that you know, yes, work 216 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: on yourself. That always helps in every single way. And 217 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 1: I hope I was able to help you all. Thank 218 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: you guys so much. Thank you for tuning in to 219 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 1: Dear Cheeky's and coming back and if you know all 220 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: my new listeners and viewers, thank you. 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