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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Mike Florio, popular co host or Pro Football

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Speaker 1: Talk Live. He joins us on the program. Let me

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Speaker 1: start with the poll question, the underdog best chance to

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Speaker 1: win in the AFC. I think it's the Patriots. Bill

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Speaker 1: Belichick's single elimination all those playoff games he's coached over

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Speaker 1: the years. And it has to be a record that

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Speaker 1: the Bills and the Patriots for two teams to get

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Speaker 1: together three times in forty days. They had two late

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Speaker 1: regular season games. Patriots won in Buffalo on a cold

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Speaker 1: and windy night. Now it's not going to be as windy,

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Speaker 1: and even if it is, I think the Bills have

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Speaker 1: figured out they need to unleash Josh Allen. It's not

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Speaker 1: going to be easy for the Patriots. But it's hard

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Speaker 1: not to trust Bill Belichick. If you give me those

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Speaker 1: three options and you say which one wins, and we

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Speaker 1: know that home teams have been winning games like never before,

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Speaker 1: I'd have to go with the Patriots. All the votes

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Speaker 1: are in for all the honors, Coach of the Year, MVP,

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Speaker 1: all of that's been tabulated here. Who's your coach of

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Speaker 1: the Year. Well, I don't have one of the votes,

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Speaker 1: so we do our own awards and at PFT I

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Speaker 1: consulted with my staff and I'm not being sarcastic because

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Speaker 1: I wasn't sure which way I was going to go

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Speaker 1: with Coach of the Year, but they persuaded me that

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Speaker 1: it should be Mike Vrabel. And when you consider that

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Speaker 1: they set a record in Week twelve, they set the

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Speaker 1: record for the number of total players used. They didn't

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Speaker 1: have Dereck Henry, the best player on their team for

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Speaker 1: more than half of the season, and they still got

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Speaker 1: the number one seed in a top heavy AFC. You know,

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Speaker 1: I was thinking Matt Lafleur until we really sat down

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Speaker 1: and talked it through and Rich Besacci what he did

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Speaker 1: was so special. But it's a tough year. But I

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Speaker 1: think Vrabel by a nose over Lafleur. Yeah. I was

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Speaker 1: wondering about Belichick with it was like last year he

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Speaker 1: did one of his best coaching jobs. This year, I

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Speaker 1: expected them to make the playoffs. But I don't know,

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Speaker 1: how do you differentiate when you're the greatest coach of

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Speaker 1: all time. It's like Chuck Noll, I don't think everyone

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Speaker 1: coach of the year. You know, the great coaches so

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Speaker 1: the guys who are really successful normally don't win Coach

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Speaker 1: of the Year. Why is that, Well, because the Coach

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Speaker 1: of the Year is kind of loosely determined by how

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Speaker 1: far you exceed the expectations that were loosely out there

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Speaker 1: going into the season. So if there's a team that's

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Speaker 1: just supposed to be complete and total crap and they

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Speaker 1: make the playoffs, all of a sudden, that coach is

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Speaker 1: a viable candidate for Coach of the Year. The bar

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Speaker 1: is always high for the Patriots, so it's very difficult

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Speaker 1: for Bill Belichick to exceed that bar high enough that

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Speaker 1: it stands out over somebody who takes a team from

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Speaker 1: worse to first, like a Zach Taylor who should get

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Speaker 1: some consideration, or a Vrabel who did something special without

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Speaker 1: his best player. But you know, Dan, we also do

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Speaker 1: executive a year that's not one of the official Associated

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Speaker 1: Press NFL awards. Sporting News, for whatever reason, is still

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Speaker 1: the officially recognized executive of the year. That's the one

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Speaker 1: that people pay attention to. I don't know why. I

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Speaker 1: don't even think they still make Sporting News, but that's

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Speaker 1: another issue altogether. We made check our Executive of the

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Speaker 1: Year because it's always hand in hand. What Belichick does

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Speaker 1: as an executive either makes it harder or easier for

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Speaker 1: him as a coach. This year, what they did going

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Speaker 1: all in, spending all that money when they had the

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Speaker 1: cap space that they had carefully built any year where

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Speaker 1: other teams weren't as competitive because of the drop in

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Speaker 1: the salary cap due to the pandemic, and they got

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Speaker 1: mac Jones when maybe the forty nine ers really did

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Speaker 1: want him with the third overall pick, and they ultimately

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Speaker 1: didn't take him, and it just worked out well that

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Speaker 1: they have the talent they need to be as competitive

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Speaker 1: as they were. So he's Executive of the year and

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Speaker 1: not Coach of the Year, but executive of the year.

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Speaker 1: Who's worst executive of the year. Well, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Dave Getleman has already been fired, although although you know,

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Speaker 1: the reality is and I think one of the things

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Speaker 1: we learned every year at this time, as the bad

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Speaker 1: owners available to speak to the media, you start to

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Speaker 1: get an idea of why bad teams stay bad and

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Speaker 1: why they can't get out of their own way. I

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Speaker 1: got some strong feelings about the Giants, for example. And

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Speaker 1: I think the Mayor family is way too involved in

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Speaker 1: they're so involved that they don't even realize how involved

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Speaker 1: stunning how far they've fallen. And I feel like they're

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Speaker 1: the deeper they sink. And I think at this point,

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Speaker 1: I got the vibe from the mayor press conference yesterday,

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Speaker 1: I don't think they know what to do. Now. They're

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Speaker 1: not going to admit that, but just I don't think

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Speaker 1: I don't know that a general manager who has real

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Speaker 1: they fired Joe Judge, which they had to do. I

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Speaker 1: was told that on Monday that if you don't fire

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Speaker 1: to become a general manager there. But I look at

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Speaker 1: and for different reasons, for different reasons. With Ross, this

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Speaker 1: is very simple and there's a sweet spot. I'm not

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Speaker 1: big into owners meddling into what their team does, unless

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Speaker 1: you're going to give yourself the title like Jerry Jones

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Speaker 1: did thirty two years ago and thirty two years later

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Speaker 1: he's the general manager of the team. But I think

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Speaker 1: the owner needs to live and work in the facility,

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Speaker 1: You need to have that presence every day. The owners

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Speaker 1: meddling with the Patriots, but his base of operations is

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Speaker 1: Gilette Stadium. I think if you're gonna buy an NFL team,

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Speaker 1: you need to make that commitment that where the team

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Speaker 1: Because when Steven Ross Barnstorm's in and he's watching a

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Speaker 1: the front office whispering to him, and the coach can't

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Speaker 1: defend himself. And there's any type of dysfunction in the

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Speaker 1: Stephen Ross, he should either commit to that team completely,

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Speaker 1: sell the team to someone who will. He's Mike Florio

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Speaker 1: Pro Football Talk Live co host with Chris Simms. The

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Speaker 1: Jim Harball situation. It seems like he's enjoying this because

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Speaker 1: it felt like last year he was holding on for

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Speaker 1: dear life. Take a pay cut. Now all of a sudden, Hey,

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Speaker 1: you got blown out by Georgia. But so what you know?

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Speaker 1: Now You've got teams reportedly interested in him. Has anybody

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Speaker 1: interviewed Jim Harball yet? In the NFL, those types of

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Speaker 1: interviews can happen without anyone knowing. The reason that we

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Speaker 1: see these reports over and over again this week that

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Speaker 1: bears requested permission to speak to that person. If it's

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Speaker 1: somebody who's currently employed by one of the other teams,

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Speaker 1: there's a piece of paper that makes it to the

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Speaker 1: to the League office that you're talking to these people.

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Speaker 1: You keep your internal records. You need to be able

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Speaker 1: to show that you did a proper search. But you know,

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Speaker 1: Mark Davis has already quietly spoken to the likes of

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Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh, maybe a gym called, well, you know, others

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Speaker 1: who are not connected to other teams. Mark Davis did

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Speaker 1: speak to assistant coaches with other teams. He's focused, so

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Speaker 1: he said on the postseason. But there's a thought that

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Speaker 1: he's already talked to some people who could be talking

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Speaker 1: off the grid to a lot of these teams. And

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Speaker 1: it used to be that's how college coaches did it.

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Speaker 1: It was the kiss of death to ever let anyone

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Speaker 1: remember when the forty nine ers hired Dennis Ericson in

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Speaker 1: how it used to be. But now it's a little

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Speaker 1: more open, and I think Hardboy is maybe at a minimum,

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Speaker 1: at a minimum back channel discussions about what he would

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Speaker 1: be paid, and hey, do your thing leverage Michigan that

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Speaker 1: Antonio Brown is not going to play. I guess the

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Speaker 1: therefore that would preclude him from joining another another team? Well,

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Speaker 1: So I think he could play at a level below

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Speaker 1: and they never really drilled down on the question I

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Speaker 1: would have you're not one hundred percent, But if the

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Speaker 1: they'll take eighty five percent Antonio Brown over one percent

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Speaker 1: Byron Pringle to Marcus Robinson and Josh Gordon, would you

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Speaker 1: heard that surgery is scheduled, it makes me think that

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Speaker 1: And hey, look at it this way. If the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: He's got that heel that he was hobbling around with.

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Speaker 1: If all of a sudden, Tyreek Kill's gone and the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs are still alive, how do you not at least

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Speaker 1: consider given Antonio Brown a call. So, you know, I

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Speaker 1: and I think he does need surgery, but I think

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Speaker 1: if he had to, just like he did that day

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Speaker 1: they've given up a third round pick and what will

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Speaker 1: be a first round pick for Carson Wentz. Now contractually,

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Speaker 1: could they have some flexibility they didn't take the gigantic

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Speaker 1: the big upfront investment in Carson Wentz. I just think

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Speaker 1: the play so he could be the coach, really be

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Speaker 1: the coach of the entire team. And I think that

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Speaker 1: if there is the most pressure on any individual, it

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Speaker 1: would be Mike McCarthy. And we know that Kellen Moore

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Speaker 1: has already interviewed for at least one job in Jacksonville,

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Speaker 1: and there will be more to come, and it would

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Speaker 1: just be interesting Dan to the point he was Jerry

436
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Speaker 1: was so patient with Jason Garrett, will he not be

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Speaker 1: his patient with Mike McCarthy. When you look at Dallas

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Speaker 1: and if I say, what side of the ball is

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Speaker 1: going to win this game, if they win the game,

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Speaker 1: it will be because of offense or defense. Wow, I

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Speaker 1: think the fact that you're even asking that question is

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Speaker 1: showing how balanced they are and the fact that they

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Speaker 1: are getting back Michael Parsons and Treyvon Diggs who were

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Speaker 1: amongst some of the players that were out last week

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Speaker 1: on the COVID list. You know, the Niners, we know

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Speaker 1: what they're going to do. They're going to run the ball,

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Speaker 1: and they're going to run it hard, and they have

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Speaker 1: proven that they can do that very successfully. I love

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Speaker 1: to see what Mica Parsons is going to do in

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Speaker 1: this matchup, because he is. It's interesting how both teams

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Speaker 1: have that X factor, that positionless player. They've got it

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Speaker 1: in Michael Parsons on defense, and then of course the

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Speaker 1: Niners have it in Deebo Samuel on offense. And those

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Speaker 1: are some of the key matchups that I'm looking for.

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Speaker 1: But I guess if you really help me to it,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to say, what's Dallas going to do defensively? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it feels like those two are more impactful than anybody

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Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball. Like Dak is

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Speaker 1: a good quarterback. I'm not a Zeke Elliott fan. The

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Speaker 1: wide receivers kind of hit or miss. They have that potential.

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Speaker 1: But it feels like Digs and Michael Parsons have to

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Speaker 1: make plays in this game against San Francisco. But you know,

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Speaker 1: the Jimmy Garoppolo storyline is really fascinating though, Andrew, when

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Speaker 1: you think about he's a lame duck, he admitted that,

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Speaker 1: you know, it kind of weighed on him this year.

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Speaker 1: Is there any chance that they don't move on from

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo after this season? Do you get any any sense? Well,

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Speaker 1: I must tell you, Dan, I'm speaking to John Lynch

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Speaker 1: later today, and I think I would be more informed

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Speaker 1: after I speak him later. But the reality is is

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Speaker 1: that the way that Garoppolo has handled things okay. And

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Speaker 1: and let's give Kyle Shanahan a lot of credit as well,

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Speaker 1: because how many people, how many of your listeners, for example,

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Speaker 1: would have thought that down seventeen to three and a

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Speaker 1: half with a guy with a bun thumb on his

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Speaker 1: throwing hand who is not having, you know, relatively little

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Speaker 1: success moving the ball, and Shanahan stayed with him. So

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Speaker 1: is that a reflection on how he felt about Trey

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Speaker 1: Lance in that moment or in that at that part

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Speaker 1: of the game, or just the confidence that he had

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Speaker 1: in Jimmy Garoppolo. Look, when Garoppolo is healthy, and that

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Speaker 1: is always the caveat with anyone, not just Todd Fritz

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Speaker 1: but also Jimmy Garoppolo. You know, when when someone is healthy,

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Speaker 1: then when Garoppolo is healthy, he is a He is

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Speaker 1: a good, good quarterback. But again, that's the whole reason

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Speaker 1: they made the move for Trey Lance, as they couldn't

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Speaker 1: count on him. And I think it's really I think

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Speaker 1: it's it's very very interesting. I'm agreeing with you. I

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Speaker 1: think it's a great storyline what Garoppolo has done, not

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Speaker 1: just physically in the way that he is able to

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Speaker 1: end up getting the ball down field to Deebo into

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Speaker 1: Joan Jennings, but also just you know, to be able

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Speaker 1: to handle that kind of stress, that kind of pressure. Look,

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Speaker 1: Greg Kittle, excuse me, I'm Kittle came to him. George

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Speaker 1: kill came to him before the game last week and said, like,

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Speaker 1: is this going to be our last game together? There

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Speaker 1: is a there's definitely feeling on the team, of course,

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Speaker 1: that this could be it, and Garoppolo is doing his

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Speaker 1: best to manage it as best as possible. Not that

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Speaker 1: John Lynch would answer it, but if you said, if

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Speaker 1: we redrafted John, are you still taking Trey Lance or

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Speaker 1: how close were you to actually taking Mac Jones? Like,

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Speaker 1: I'm just curious because I Trey Lance is not ready,

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Speaker 1: He's got a lot of talent. You're not ready, but

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones, I mean he's contributing. So I think that, Look, look,

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Speaker 1: the anomaly has been drafting Patrick Mahomes, sitting him for

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Speaker 1: the entire year behind Alex Smith, letting him play in

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Speaker 1: a meaningless game in week seventeen, and then oh, by

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Speaker 1: the way, and then trading away Alex Smith, and look

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Speaker 1: what Patrick Mahomes turns into. I think that was the plan.

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Speaker 1: I think that was clearly the plan for the Niners.

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Speaker 1: That Now again, did they have to move up and

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Speaker 1: give up all those first round draft picks to get

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Speaker 1: Trey Lance. That's a whole other issue. But the idea

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Speaker 1: of if Garoppolo is healthy again always the vicaveat, if

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Speaker 1: he's healthy, let Trey Lance sit behind him, let him learn,

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Speaker 1: maybe get him in a little bit. You know. Look

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Speaker 1: at remember at the beginning of the season, Kyle Shanammer's

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Speaker 1: thinking of platooning them at times. That lasted about two

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Speaker 1: games and that was gone, So that wasn't going to happen.

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Speaker 1: But I think that the idea that that Garoppolo ended

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Speaker 1: up miss two games you saw, I think I don't know,

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Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy eight or so snaps from from

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Speaker 1: Trey Lance this season, but certainly enough to prove that he,

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Speaker 1: as you point out, is not ready to take over

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Speaker 1: the helm of this team, especially in the playoffs. But again,

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Speaker 1: the fact that they did it that way, maybe with

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Speaker 1: that in mind, is I think what the plan was.

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Speaker 1: Talking to Andrew Kramer, She'll be on the call on

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Speaker 1: Amazon Prime with Hannah Storm. She'll have the Niners and

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys. The worst weather you ever encountered as a

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Speaker 1: as a sideline reporter was where, well, well the worst.

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Speaker 1: There was two back to back games. There was the

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety seven divisional playoff and then NFC Championship game

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Speaker 1: and no surprise, Green Bay the divisional playoff against the Niners.

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Speaker 1: It was that driving rain that kind of goes sideways

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Speaker 1: where you have you have no idea, And the best

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Speaker 1: part of this is you, of course knows. Stephanie Julie,

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Speaker 1: who is now one of the highest treking executives at ESPN,

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Speaker 1: she was my producer at that time. She was forcing

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Speaker 1: me to stand outside and I'm like, don't you realize

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Speaker 1: I'm going to look so stupid. Nobody will be paying

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Speaker 1: attention to what I'm saying. They will be looking at

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Speaker 1: this drowned rat out here, and of course Boehmer throw

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Speaker 1: you know, Burman froze to me like well, Andreas standing

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Speaker 1: out in the rain. To this day, Stephanie and I

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Speaker 1: joke about this, But then next week it was about

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Speaker 1: thirty four below wind chill for the conference championship against Carolina,

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Speaker 1: and those two games were just unbelievable. My cameraman took

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Speaker 1: me to Fleet and Farm in Green Bay to make

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Speaker 1: sure that I had new boots so that I would

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Speaker 1: not encounter frost bite standing there. Have you ever been

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00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: wiped out on the sidelines by player? Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: Sunday night football Vikings, and I had a wonderful man

555
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Speaker 1: named Charlie Round and he would carry the light kit.

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Speaker 1: So I'm standing there in the sidelines. I can't make

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Speaker 1: this up. It's kind of embarrassing. But for people who

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Speaker 1: may not know, I'm five two and I'm barely one

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Speaker 1: hundred pounds. Adrian Peterson is coming my way, and I'm

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Speaker 1: on the sidelines, and I stand up and I put

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Speaker 1: my arm out like this, and Charlie reaches under my

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Speaker 1: armpits and literally lists me like a little dog, and

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Speaker 1: he goes what were you doing? And I go forearm shiver,

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Speaker 1: you know. So that's the closest I ever came to

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Speaker 1: being completely run over. And then I got hit by

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Speaker 1: a ball one time, which is not the greatest thing.

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Speaker 1: It was actually pregame with a field goal attempt, and

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Speaker 1: I was talking to a coach and committed the cardinal sin,

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Speaker 1: which is wasn't paying attention, and there you go. You know, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Fritzie is here, Andrew Kramer. Fritzie Andrea said that she

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Speaker 1: comes on the show and she expects you to do

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Speaker 1: your Andrea Kramer impersonation. I know you wrote a script

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Speaker 1: for this. Do you want to let her down? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Oh of course you don't. All right, So here's want

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Speaker 1: You don't want to let me down about your boss? Right,

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Speaker 1: you don't want to let Dan Dan like, oh, by

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Speaker 1: the way, you Fritzie, you first dance sect it. That's

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Speaker 1: how it works. Okay, all right, So give Andrew Kramer

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Speaker 1: your best Andrea Kramer impersonation. Thank you, Dan. Two Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame quarterbacks who brought Super Bowl to the city

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Speaker 1: of Denver now find themselves on opposite sides of the

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Speaker 1: mile high fence. John Elway and Peyton Manning are part

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Speaker 1: of separate investment groups looking to buy the Broncos. Seven

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Speaker 1: has the drive, but will you have the necessary money

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Speaker 1: or will the other NFL owners exclaim Omaha, omaha and

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Speaker 1: prefer number eighteen. Two legends vying for a team who

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Speaker 1: currently have zero quarterbacks on a team that hasn't reached

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. It's beating the Panthers six years ago in

589
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty. They lost double digit games yet again

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00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: and have now lost to their division rival Chiefs thirteen

591
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Speaker 1: straight times. One of these two legends will be orange

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Speaker 1: crushed to learn that their bid fell short. Reporting from Agelood,

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Speaker 1: Colorado with the Broncos Andrew Kramer ESPN. He said he

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Speaker 1: couldn't send any script and as long as he nailed

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Speaker 1: the clothes, that's all that matters. RITA, thank you for

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Speaker 1: all the time that you put into that script. Well,

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Speaker 1: we love you. I love you, and you're welcome. I

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Speaker 1: enjoyed that. And you're a good sport. Thank you, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: N Dan. I have to ask you a question, how

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Speaker 1: many years have you been out of ESPN? I think

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Speaker 1: fourteen coming upon fifteen years, Okay, so I'm coming up

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Speaker 1: on sixteen. I still get at an airport. Oh, you're

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Speaker 1: my favorite person on ESPN to this day. And Jimmy

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00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: Roberts told me, who left before me to go to NBC.

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Speaker 1: He said, that's going to happen. There's just that gret

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Speaker 1: And of course you never have the you never have

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Speaker 1: the wherewithal to say I haven't been there in fifteen years.

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Speaker 1: But I'm glad you liked me. Yeah. I have people say, oh,

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Speaker 1: I watch on Sports Center every morning, and I go, wow,

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Speaker 1: that's awesome, you know, right, you can't tell anybody no,

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Speaker 1: you know, no, no, but you know, it's been fifteen

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Speaker 1: years since I did Sports Center. But thank you. It's

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Speaker 1: nice that you us. But you know what you're so

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Speaker 1: people don't change their viewing patterns. If you think about

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Speaker 1: the number of channels that you click to every night,

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Speaker 1: there's probably five channels maybe Max that you'll stay with.

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Speaker 1: And the fact that Sports Center and ESPN was just

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Speaker 1: ingrained in people's daily and nightly routines. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: a testament to the product that we had. But also,

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Speaker 1: you know, people want familiarity, comfort. But it's also unfortunate

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Speaker 1: because look, you know I did certainly my share, as

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Speaker 1: did you at ESPN. Of the you know, exclusive interviews,

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Speaker 1: and back then they meant something. The Sunday Conversation meant something,

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Speaker 1: and if you wanted to see it, you could only

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Speaker 1: see it on ESPN. Now nobody has any idea really

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Speaker 1: who's where because everything gets put on the internet. So

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Speaker 1: it's great for distribution. I'm not quite sure about brand identification,

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Speaker 1: but uh, but things have certainly changed in that way,

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Speaker 1: and it just it just gets to the glood of

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Speaker 1: information that's out there. Could you do your own sign

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Speaker 1: off here? As I say goodbye to you? Wow? Uh,

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Speaker 1: I wonder who I'm signing off four? Because you said

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Speaker 1: I do work for him? How about you can go back?

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Speaker 1: How about ESPN? How about your no no no no

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Speaker 1: no no no no no no no no, no no no.

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Speaker 1: Let me write my own script. Okay, sorry, okay, let

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Speaker 1: me at the top of my head. So I hope

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Speaker 1: that you'll all tune in to watch Hannah Storm and

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Speaker 1: I call Cowboys one. I hope you'll all tune in

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Speaker 1: ben retired from right and retiring from the Steelers or

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Speaker 1: retiring from football? Do we know yet? Yeah? From football? Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: well none of that. They were I think they're a

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Speaker 1: little surprised he came back this past year. So but

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Speaker 1: nobody has made any He hasn't said anything about this

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Speaker 1: holding out. He's not the Steelers they know this, Like

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Speaker 1: it's not a this wasn't a no this they like

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Speaker 1: I said, they were a surprised he came back this year,

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Speaker 1: and then when he did, obviously they're lucky that he did. Um.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, there was kind of like, oh, wow, it's

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Speaker 1: coming back, all right, fantastic, here we go. But no,

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Speaker 1: he's not. He's not going to leave the Steelers and

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Speaker 1: go somewhere else. There was a report I think Albert

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Speaker 1: Rear the Monday morning quarterback that you know, would the

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Speaker 1: Raiders explore trading for a coach? You know they you

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Speaker 1: know they did this with with John. I just said

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Speaker 1: the same thing on thoughts. Okay, they were, they were.

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Speaker 1: Look it's the Raiders, right when you have Carlos Santana

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Speaker 1: playing your halftime in a preseason game, that's a rock

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Speaker 1: star place, right, So they are. I wouldn't be. Look,

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Speaker 1: I think Rich Psacci used to be the coach, Like

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Speaker 1: he's incredible what he's done with all the stuff that

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Speaker 1: they've had endured this season. But yeah, they I think

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Speaker 1: they're looking for a rock start. Just trade for a

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Speaker 1: it doesn't even happen, a trade from Mike Tomlin or

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Speaker 1: Sean Paytner, something along those lines, or explore Jim Harboss

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Speaker 1: somebody like that. You got all those big whales in Vegas, right,

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Speaker 1: so you want to make sure you want to have

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Speaker 1: a whale. But listen, the bottom line is you gotta win.

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Speaker 1: And Rich Pisacci turned this, took this team, did a

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Speaker 1: way better job than John Gruden did and steered them

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Speaker 1: through an awful like. Man. People could say as much

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Speaker 1: as they want that, I don't know, it's not a

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Speaker 1: distraction it's not as they had more distractions than any

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Speaker 1: team I've ever seen. Where does John Gruden's lawsuit Standum

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Speaker 1: that I don't know it's anything legal. I know I'm

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Speaker 1: not smart enough to really. Do you know Bruton? Yeah? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: But yeah? But but is this you're not boys? I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't say we're boys? Uh No? Do you think this

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Speaker 1: is just a settlement here eventually with Mark Davis? Again,

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Speaker 1: that's the legal part. I don't I don't know. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure. The Jim Harball situation, Um, it feels like

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Speaker 1: he's enjoying this considering where he was last year at

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Speaker 1: this time, where he always liked this. It's every year,

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Speaker 1: every year, Jim Harbaugh's man's connected to NFL teams. He

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Speaker 1: loves this absolutely. But I will tell you this, one

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Speaker 1: thing I know is that he has talked to other

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Speaker 1: coaches say, hey, if I go back in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: would you you know, would you join? Would you be

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Speaker 1: interested in this? So he is definitely, um preparing for

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Speaker 1: the opportunity. But I'm gonna say like he does this

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Speaker 1: kind of all every year, like he I think he

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Speaker 1: likes we had to take the pay cut, and then

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Speaker 1: he may have taken Michigan as far as he could

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Speaker 1: take them. I mean, they got blown out by Georgia.

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Speaker 1: People forget that. They're like, yeah, but they beat Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if Harbaugh realizes, you're never going to be

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Speaker 1: better than Ohio State on a consistent basis. And then

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of those guys also, they there

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Speaker 1: are a lot of coaches were kind of like you're

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Speaker 1: the way you could like some of your like, I

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Speaker 1: know when I get on my guys that I'm breakable.

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Speaker 1: I get on him right. I'm always telling these guys,

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Speaker 1: no hands on your hips, neutral face, we don't ever

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Speaker 1: show it, and I know it. We're stin on him

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Speaker 1: right and wheres him out? And Ben said, oh stop enough?

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Speaker 1: So I think you guy like Harbaugh also, like like

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Speaker 1: Parcels was great with this. He was like, all right,

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Speaker 1: that's it and I moved to the next place. And

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Speaker 1: I thought, that's why college is great for Jim, because

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Speaker 1: he gets every place about how's that. Yeah, But in

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Speaker 1: the league, I think he's like, no doubt do it's

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Speaker 1: a phenomenal coach, right, There is no you can't contest

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Speaker 1: that whatsoever. And builds winning cultures. Cannot contest that whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: But the smart things go somewhere for a few years

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Speaker 1: and then move on and go somewhere else. Who's the

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Speaker 1: hot coaching candidate in the NFL? So it's different this

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Speaker 1: year than every other year because every other year people

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Speaker 1: want the next Sean McVeigh and before that it was

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Speaker 1: the next Sean Payton and it's just not there. This year.

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Speaker 1: We don't have those hot offensive candidates and you know,

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Speaker 1: it's McVeigh coaching tree. So guys like dan Quinn, A

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Speaker 1: lot of a lot of guys that have been around

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Speaker 1: like dan Quinn. H is a hot name running around

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Speaker 1: and rightfully so right he's won and you want to

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Speaker 1: talk about building a culture like you can't wait to

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Speaker 1: get to work every day with dan Quinn. I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you this. I would say ninety nine percent of coaches

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Speaker 1: change when they get the head coaching job. And it's

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Speaker 1: a very rare few that you know, and they have

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Speaker 1: to change with a certain extent. DQ is the same

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Speaker 1: exact dude when he's d line coach for forty nine

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Speaker 1: hours that he is today. Dude has never changed. He's

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Speaker 1: a He's a rare he's a rare Breek. If the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys happen to lose this weekend, it's is Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 1: still firmly cemented as the head coach. I think he is. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's I would think, but I don't But

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Speaker 1: the Joneses, I don't know, but I would think. So

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Speaker 1: look here's here's the other Cowboys are a different place. Oho.

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Speaker 1: That's like, this is why I say, like Troy Aqman's

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Speaker 1: the biggest gangster of all time because and that's why

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Speaker 1: Dak is such a gangster. At position is like the court,

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Speaker 1: the head, the head coach or quarterback of and it's

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Speaker 1: for Jimmy Johnson's like incredible. Those two positions are like

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Speaker 1: the center fielder for the Yankees and the shortstop for

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Speaker 1: the Red Sox, and the center for the Lakers and

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Speaker 1: the point guard for the Celtics, all wrapped up in one.

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Speaker 1: The attention that you get right and all the outside

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Speaker 1: noise that you have to deal with, and they get

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Speaker 1: a guy there, Mike McCarthy, that's just got them the football, football, football.

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Speaker 1: I think he's done a phenomenal job. But obviously with

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Speaker 1: them that the other expectations are so incredibly high. How

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Speaker 1: did the Giants become this much of an embarrassment? Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, I don't think they know what they don't

783
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 1: know what they don't know, you know, even a guy

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Speaker 1: like look I was, I said this weekend that Joe Judge,

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Speaker 1: you know, had first it was like maybe seventy five percent.

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Speaker 1: Come back. Then my pre pregame show on Fox, I

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Speaker 1: said fifty fifty And by the time the OT came,

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Speaker 1: I was like, it's down to twenty five percent. And man,

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Speaker 1: there's just I think some teams look cultures everything. Culture

790
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Speaker 1: is everything. And you look at some of these teams

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Speaker 1: over and over and over who lose, Like Washington football team,

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Speaker 1: it starts at the top, and you are looking to

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Speaker 1: go since Dann Snyder took over, they've never won. Well,

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Speaker 1: maybe you got to look at the top down right,

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Speaker 1: Detroit has never won. It's you know, Cleveland. The one

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Speaker 1: year or they won was the year that nobody else

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Speaker 1: was allowed in the building, only football, right, Think about that.

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Speaker 1: And then like I looked with John Peyton did down

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Speaker 1: wearing bags on their heads, right, and man, he went

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Speaker 1: down to kind of talk the owner how to be

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Speaker 1: a winning owner. And you go down to the Saints facility. Man,

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Speaker 1: the locker room feels like a w hotel. You know,

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Speaker 1: the way room is like more ridiculous than everything you've

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Speaker 1: ever seen. They get this restaurant, Dragos comes down and

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Speaker 1: caters to them, every shrouded like. Guys don't want to

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Speaker 1: leave the facility. They're there, the giants, their culture. They're

808
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Speaker 1: waiting for the sky to fall all the time. They're

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Speaker 1: just always waiting for the sty And then you know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, here's the issue is they always hire from

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Speaker 1: let's go get Oh, Joe Judge is part of Bilichick, right,

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Speaker 1: they everybody, you know, they want Hi Matt rule because

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Speaker 1: he was there for a year. Well, you have this

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Speaker 1: culture where you're waiting for the scott to fall. You

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Speaker 1: gotta go outside and build a new culture in there.

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Speaker 1: And you got to build a culture where, man, I

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Speaker 1: cannot wait to get to work every day and I

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Speaker 1: don't want to leave the office. Talking to Jay Glazier

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Speaker 1: My Depression and anxiety. There it is motivation and you

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Speaker 1: It's a triple XL. But thank you for noticing body, man, Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm envious. I mean you look swold today. Had a

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Speaker 1: late night last night? What led you to write the book?

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Speaker 1: Um My the gray that I live and I call

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Speaker 1: it um And you know I've talked you know something

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Speaker 1: about this, man, I live in this. It's um my

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Speaker 1: depression and anxiety. It's it's been since I was It's

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Speaker 1: my earliest memory and it sucks. It's a daily thing,

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Speaker 1: Like every single day I wake up thinking my sky

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Speaker 1: has fallen, and people think like, oh man, you wretch

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Speaker 1: doesn't work that way. I have never known how to

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Speaker 1: love myself from the inside out. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: go do bigger things on the outside to learn to

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Speaker 1: get love. And you don't really have Jude who talk

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Speaker 1: like this, And I did something a couple of years

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Speaker 1: merging vets and players like I'm an open book there,

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Speaker 1: things that helps me be of service, helped me get

849
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Speaker 1: through the gray to see the blue, is being of service.

850
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: And this book is you know, it's for all of

851
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: us who live in the gray, whether you have you

852
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: know like I have, whether it's clinical you want to

853
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: call clinical depression and anxiety and mental illness, or just

854
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: you just go through hard times. I wanted to be

855
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: this voice for the gray, for all of us and

856
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: show us it's okay not to be okay. We need

857
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,720
Speaker 1: to start talking about it. And like man football players,

858
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: they hurt their knee, they go right to the doctor,

859
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 1: or in our hearts hurtin they don't go to doctor.

860
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: And this is what we need to work on most

861
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: and as are the world has changed when this thing

862
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 1: came out right here right and now all of a sudden,

863
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: we're comparing ourselves to everybody else's filtered fraction of a

864
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: second in life we think our lives suck all of

865
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: a sudden, and we see so much hate online. We're

866
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: not conditioning for that. So I for me to see

867
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: the blue. Like when I say I wake up in

868
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: the gray, it's every freaking day and it absolutely sucks,

869
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: and I never know which version of me I'm gonna

870
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: get every day. And then when I lay my head

871
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: on my pillow at night, those fifteen minutes at night

872
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: the worst part of my day because I'm laying down

873
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: with someone that I don't know how to like or

874
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: love and I just think is a like not worthy

875
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: of anything good. So I'm like, you know, this is

876
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,720
Speaker 1: this could help a lot of people. And then recently,

877
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 1: because I did the book, I started kind of journaling

878
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: on social media in real time how it looks, how

879
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: living in the gray looks, and that has helped me

880
00:47:58,200 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: cut through the gray a little bit and see the blue,

881
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: see the reaction and like man being like muscles, this

882
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: this is nothing like vulnerability is true strength. And if

883
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 1: I could be vulnerable with the world and especially the

884
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 1: dudes out there, but it's just not just that at everybody.

885
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: I think like we all deserve to be happy and

886
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: not live in the gray. And not let that monster

887
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: win and keep that monster in the box. And it's

888
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 1: a harder world to do that and nowadays. So that's

889
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: why I wrote it. They came to me about it,

890
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: and I've always been like, oh no, no, especially like this.

891
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 1: But I pulled my skin back and in the book

892
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: I explain what living in the Gray looks like through

893
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: a conversation that I had with Sean McVeigh. We didn't

894
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: really understand it, and he let me redo the conversation

895
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: and he's like, wait, so you like you wake up

896
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: every day depressed him? Like yeah, he's like why, I'm like,

897
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: because I have depressed him. He's like, I know, that's like,

898
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: but I was like, so I was better of a coach.

899
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: You'll be if you understand the darkness that leads your

900
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,919
Speaker 1: players to put a helmet on and smash themselves into

901
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 1: people over and over and over and over, or for

902
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: you in your coaches to work twenty hour days, or

903
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: for somebody like me who steps in a cage with

904
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: a Randy Gattour Creuck Ladell and gets punched in my

905
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: face like like we're off. We gotta be off to

906
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: do what we do here. And you know, I I

907
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 1: just thought it was a great way for me to

908
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 1: be of service to people. Man, And and I'm proud.

909
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: And the crazy stuff is my gray Like I have

910
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: twelve days to twenty fifth is when it is launched day.

911
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,720
Speaker 1: And in my mind, my world's going to come crashing

912
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 1: down in the next twelve days. Like I'm trying to

913
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: keep it together not crying as I'm talking to here.

914
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,879
Speaker 1: It's that hard for me every day, every time something

915
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: good happens, I feel so unworthy anything good ever happening

916
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 1: to me. And yeah, to have this come out, man,

917
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: where if I've already had people tell me that they

918
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: were gonna my posts, Um, they were going to turn

919
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: a suicide because of these posts, They've uh, I go,

920
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: they've decided to get help, is uh man, That's that's

921
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,320
Speaker 1: why I wrote the book. Well, I appreciate your friendship

922
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: because you know I went through a dark time and

923
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: you reached out to me and you just said you're here.

924
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: You know you were here for me, so and right, dude,

925
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: never forget right. Yeah, that's why man, we got like, man,

926
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: we need our teams and these bonds that we have, right,

927
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: these brotherhoods. We can't do it alone. And I wanted

928
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: to make sure that you knew you had a battle

929
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 1: buddy who was walking this walk with you. Dude. And

930
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: You've always been there for me man, so I had

931
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: to be there for you. Thank you, Jane, I appreciate

932
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: your time, good luck for your book. Thank you man.

933
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Speaker 1: That's Jake Blazer.