WEBVTT - Alzheimer’s In Color

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<v Speaker 1>Today we continue our look at thirty years of impactful

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<v Speaker 1>journalism made right here on Latino USA. This time it's

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<v Speaker 1>an award winning episode from our archives. Here's Alzheimer's in color.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, So this is my life. Every week I have

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<v Speaker 2>a skype call into my mom's nursing home in the Bronx. Hi, Mommy,

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<v Speaker 2>it's Yvonne ybond Eha. Each call starts more or less

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<v Speaker 2>the same. I reintroduced myself to my mother and remind

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<v Speaker 2>her that this is her daughter, Yvonne speaking. How are

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<v Speaker 2>you feeling? This is Margo.

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<v Speaker 3>Margita Dunieta, my younger daughter Margot is on this call

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<v Speaker 3>and we are trying to get my mom to recognize us.

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<v Speaker 2>She's got Alzheimer's disease and it's been hell, and COVID

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen has made it worse. The last time I saw

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<v Speaker 2>her in person was in March. She knew who I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Then it was a week before the coronavirus shut down

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<v Speaker 2>in New York City, where she lives.

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<v Speaker 4>We wants to inform you that we have the senior

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<v Speaker 4>confirmation that an individual at Best Abraham's Center has been

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<v Speaker 4>diagnosed with COVID nineteen.

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<v Speaker 2>And now I get endless robo calls telling me that

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<v Speaker 2>the virus is in her nursing home. People are dying there.

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<v Speaker 2>I know I am losing her every second of every

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<v Speaker 2>day if COVID doesn't take her Alzheimer's will.

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<v Speaker 5>While we understand the inconvenience this may cause, it is

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<v Speaker 5>crucial that we restrict visitations to reduce the spread of

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<v Speaker 5>this virus.

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<v Speaker 2>And it sucks, and the sky calls her hard. She

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<v Speaker 2>is distant, unfocused. She can barely speak a few words

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<v Speaker 2>and they rarely make sense. I was told to use

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<v Speaker 2>music to reach her, Mama. She loves Latin music, she

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<v Speaker 2>loves to dance, and so I try my Mom's name

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<v Speaker 2>is Ramona Laddie or Ramanita Mota Laddie or Ramona Novelli

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<v Speaker 2>Amota Haemo send Laddie if I want to tease.

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<v Speaker 5>Her, noamnt.

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<v Speaker 2>Nova Nova Nova Oi Oi, Novelia Oi a very ugly name.

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<v Speaker 2>You used to tell me when I was a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>You hated your middle name. She's eighty seven and it's

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<v Speaker 2>been four years now since she was diagnosed. Four years

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<v Speaker 2>of the lonely journey, which in the end, I walk

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<v Speaker 2>alone because my mom has no idea what day it is,

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<v Speaker 2>what year it is, how old she is, or where

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<v Speaker 2>she is.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't know who I am.

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<v Speaker 2>You promised me you were never gonna forget me, and

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<v Speaker 2>look at you not forgetting me. Thanks a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>From Fudro Media and PRX. It's Latino USA. I'm Maria

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<v Speaker 1>Nojosa Today. An intimate an intergenerational portrait of one woman's

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<v Speaker 1>journey with Alzheimer's and her family's commitment to remembering her life.

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<v Speaker 1>For many aging Latinos, Latinas and African Americans, Alzheimer's disease

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<v Speaker 1>has become one of the leading health crises. Access to healthcare,

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<v Speaker 1>pre existing conditions, the quality of institutions that help aging

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<v Speaker 1>people of color. All of these disparities become amplified by

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<v Speaker 1>a diagnosis of Alzheimer's. As more people live longer, the

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<v Speaker 1>challenges around Alzheimer's keep growing. Experts predict that by twenty

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<v Speaker 1>sixty there could be an over eight hundred percent growth

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<v Speaker 1>of Latinos with this incurable degenerative form of dementia. For

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<v Speaker 1>journalist Ivon Latin, this story is personal. Her mother, Ramona Latti,

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<v Speaker 1>was diagnosed with Alzheimer's in twenty sixteen. Yvonne has been

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<v Speaker 1>documenting her mother's illness and brings us this intimate portrait

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<v Speaker 1>of her mom's life before and after Alzheimer's.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Ola, I love my mom, I really really do.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't say I have understood her or the decisions

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<v Speaker 2>she's made. I can't say she understood me either. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't say we belong on a latinx American experienced Hallmark card,

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<v Speaker 2>or that our mother daughter bond is unique. She pissed

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<v Speaker 2>me off and could be a pain in the ass.

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<v Speaker 2>I know she would say that about me too. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>the teen that likes to wear black and locks herself

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<v Speaker 2>in her messy room with her headphones on. All the

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<v Speaker 2>time that was me. We had some epic battles, for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>In some ways, I think we were the same person,

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<v Speaker 2>living different extremes, each wanting so much more than what

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<v Speaker 2>is expected of women like us. My mom faced dirt,

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<v Speaker 2>poor poverty in the Dominican Republic where she was born.

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<v Speaker 2>She joined a wave of immigration to the US at nineteen,

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<v Speaker 2>and she surpassed every challenge thrown her way. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>ashamed to say I am desperate to connect with her,

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<v Speaker 2>to understand her story and make it mine. Until the

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<v Speaker 2>world Ramona Laddie, my mom matters. My name is, said

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<v Speaker 2>Ramona Latti. That was just four years ago, whilst going happens,

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<v Speaker 2>going to happen. I'm mad. I watch you though, might

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<v Speaker 2>sort of thing any see, don't worry, don't march. This

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<v Speaker 2>was right after her diagnosis, when we could still talk

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<v Speaker 2>to each other, and we were going on endless doctors

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<v Speaker 2>visits looking for some hope, a treatment, way to slow

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<v Speaker 2>the disease down. Some before scared of bit, but you're

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<v Speaker 2>not scared now.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm how scared of that I've Paiduto's society.

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<v Speaker 2>Since my mother said those words, her life went on

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<v Speaker 2>a rapid decline. The threat that holds us together gets thinner,

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<v Speaker 2>The conversation's more difficult, and my profound sadness over losing

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<v Speaker 2>her harder to manage.

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<v Speaker 6>My first impressions were that she she was able to

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<v Speaker 6>propel her wheelchair with her feet, not her hands.

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<v Speaker 2>These days, my lifeline is the staff at the Beth

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<v Speaker 2>Abraham Nursing Home in the Bronx where my mom lives.

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<v Speaker 2>This is her nurse practitioner, Iris Nagan. She has supported

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<v Speaker 2>me on countless occasions. Iris started working with my mom

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<v Speaker 2>in January of twenty nineteen.

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<v Speaker 6>She seemed to communicate a little better in Spanish than

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<v Speaker 6>in English. The impoverishment of speech and often the inability

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<v Speaker 6>to walk are connected to having had dementia for a while.

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<v Speaker 5>Theever that's a song that I wrote that don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Alzheimer's is a brain disease. It slowly destroys your memories,

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<v Speaker 2>Your ability to think, speak, walk, talk, Even the simplest

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<v Speaker 2>tasks become impossible. It's a wicked form of dementia and

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<v Speaker 2>it will slowly kill you. The type of Alzheimer's my

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<v Speaker 2>mom has is not genetic, but my odds of getting

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<v Speaker 2>the disease are slightly higher because she has it. Visiting

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<v Speaker 2>my mom is always hard, and when I don't see her,

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<v Speaker 2>I worry and feel guilty, and I don't even know

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<v Speaker 2>if my skype calls help her at all.

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<v Speaker 6>At this point, I guess really is one of the

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<v Speaker 6>things that happens with dementia is the world gets very,

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<v Speaker 6>very small.

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<v Speaker 2>And always tells me that these visits and calls are

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<v Speaker 2>hard on my mother as well.

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<v Speaker 6>Hi, and I think when people come from the outside world,

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<v Speaker 6>they bring with them expectations, and I think the expectations

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<v Speaker 6>can be hard.

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<v Speaker 2>On someone who has advanced dementia. But that has been

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<v Speaker 2>the challenge of the disease, understanding it and holding on

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<v Speaker 2>to Ramona Laddie. I find myself thinking about where she

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<v Speaker 2>came from, who she was, her story pre Alzheimer's, because

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<v Speaker 2>Alzheimer's is not who she is. It's not her story,

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<v Speaker 2>It's just how her story ends. My mom dropped out

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<v Speaker 2>of school in the eighth grade to take care of

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<v Speaker 2>her little brother so her mom could work. Her father

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<v Speaker 2>died when she was twelve. She barely knew him. In

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<v Speaker 2>the late nineteen forties, her mother and aunt came to

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<v Speaker 2>New York City. It was the first wave of Dominican immigration,

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<v Speaker 2>and although many were fleeing the brutal dictator Raphael Ruhedro.

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<v Speaker 7>Picturesque Trujlio City, capital of the Dominican Republic, turns out

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<v Speaker 7>for the inauguration of a president, for whom the city

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<v Speaker 7>is named. General Trugulio is the strong man of the Republic.

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<v Speaker 2>Many were just looking for work and an escape from poverty.

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<v Speaker 2>My then teen mom was left to take care of

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<v Speaker 2>everything at home, which now included her aunt's children.

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<v Speaker 8>But then immigration has brought in many people from the

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<v Speaker 8>Caribbean area. Most of the immigrants went into the factories

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<v Speaker 8>and found their homes in the tenements of America's growing city.

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<v Speaker 2>In nineteen fifty, she got a chance to come to

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<v Speaker 2>New York City. She was nineteen, and she got a

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<v Speaker 2>job in a pocketbook factory and went to beauty school.

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<v Speaker 2>It's such a New York City story. She met Albert,

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<v Speaker 2>my dad, in a beauty parlor in Spanish Harlem run

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<v Speaker 2>by a Cuban woman who was married to a Jamaican

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<v Speaker 2>man and as a result, had Jamaican customers, which included

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<v Speaker 2>my grandmother. My dad went to pick her up one day,

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<v Speaker 2>saw my mom in the beauty parlor and it was

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<v Speaker 2>love at first sight, even though she spoke no English

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<v Speaker 2>and he spoke no Spanish.

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<v Speaker 9>Hello, Hello, Hi on Grace, aw you Okay, hold on

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<v Speaker 9>a minute. Social distancing needs creating more crystal place.

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<v Speaker 4>Between yourself and others.

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<v Speaker 2>So I wanted to start a few years into my

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<v Speaker 2>mom's journey in New York City, and to do that,

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<v Speaker 2>I reached out to Grace Lawrence, or Aunt Grace, who

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<v Speaker 2>has been very close to my mom for over sixty.

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<v Speaker 9>Years, and we became fast friends.

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<v Speaker 2>On Grace's ninety four lives in Queen's and her memory,

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<v Speaker 2>unlike my mom's, is sharp as attack.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, I might as well say, okay, when my age

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<v Speaker 9>things happened up and down, but I'm okay, so.

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<v Speaker 4>To sleave it at that.

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<v Speaker 2>And Grace told me that she met my mom in

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<v Speaker 2>the late nineteen fifties through my dad.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, I know that he became very close and he

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<v Speaker 9>wanted to meet his girlfriend. His girlfriend at that time

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<v Speaker 9>it was grand Mama, So he didn't say that much

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<v Speaker 9>about her except that she was Spanish.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what they called latinos back then, Spanish.

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<v Speaker 9>And of course that didn't bother me at all.

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<v Speaker 5>When you first met my mother, what did you what

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<v Speaker 5>did you think of about her?

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<v Speaker 9>Like your mother up to dance.

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<v Speaker 4>She was so pretty and vivacious, and.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how I remember her dancing with us in the

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<v Speaker 2>kitchen to disco, salsa, meringe. Everything was hips, hips, hips,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't matter the music.

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<v Speaker 9>She really was a beautiful young lady. And of course

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<v Speaker 9>you know your mama was very stylish. She was always stylish.

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<v Speaker 2>Greece's parents were from Barbados and immigrants, so and Grace

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<v Speaker 2>knew about the prejudice that existed between some Caribbean blacks

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<v Speaker 2>towards Latino's, which my mom walked right into by loving

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<v Speaker 2>my dad.

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<v Speaker 9>Albert's mother was Jamaican and she was a very strict lady,

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<v Speaker 9>very flapa, and unfortunately she did not want to come

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<v Speaker 9>to the wedding because her mona was Spanish.

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<v Speaker 2>So what was happening was this My grandmother was raised

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<v Speaker 2>by a well off family in Jamaica, and although she

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<v Speaker 2>was a maid in New York, she felt her son

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<v Speaker 2>was too good for my mom.

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<v Speaker 9>She was very disappointed she didn't come to the wedding,

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<v Speaker 9>but that did not stop the wedding.

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<v Speaker 2>Unt Grace was the matron of honor.

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<v Speaker 4>The wind went on and.

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<v Speaker 9>Your father kissed his wife. She was so proud of her.

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<v Speaker 2>But my grandmother, Nana did not accept the marriage. Nana

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<v Speaker 2>was a dark skinned woman who would not accept the

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<v Speaker 2>light skinned Latina in her family. My mom came from

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<v Speaker 2>the Dominican Republic, a country with extremely negative attitudes towards

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<v Speaker 2>black skin, but she didn't care that my father was black.

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<v Speaker 2>The story on my father's side of the family was different.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom was Spanish and that was enough to be rejected.

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<v Speaker 9>Ramona really worked established a relationship with her mother in.

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<v Speaker 2>Law, and this is something I really admire about my mother.

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<v Speaker 2>She did not give up picture this. My mom lived

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<v Speaker 2>on one hundred and h Street near Central Park West,

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<v Speaker 2>and my grandmother was just about six blocks away. My

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<v Speaker 2>father would visit Nana every week without my mom. So

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<v Speaker 2>she worked on being the best version of herself to

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<v Speaker 2>figure this out. She worked on her English, she worked

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<v Speaker 2>on being a good wife, and she had hope no

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<v Speaker 2>matter how much she was ignored and rejected. But it

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<v Speaker 2>took the birth of my older sister, Margie in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>sixty to finally warm my grandmother's heart. On my next

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<v Speaker 2>Skype call to my mother, I try to bring up

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<v Speaker 2>our old address fifteen was one hundred and h Street.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember one hundred and h Street. Maybe that a dress

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<v Speaker 2>the names of her family would trigger a memory Margie.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember Margie?

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<v Speaker 5>Do iha Margie?

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<v Speaker 2>But I came up empty. My talk with Aunt Grace

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<v Speaker 2>and April left me wanting more. The mom I have

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<v Speaker 2>had for years now is a shadow of who she was,

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<v Speaker 2>and I want that mother back so badly. Coming up

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<v Speaker 2>on Latino, USA, she.

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<v Speaker 10>Was seeing this boy in her apartment, this like evil boy,

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<v Speaker 10>and at one point it got so bad that she

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<v Speaker 10>was hiding knives so that she could stab the boy.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay with us, Yes, hey, we're back. And before the break,

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<v Speaker 1>journalist yvon Latti had introduced us to her mother's world

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<v Speaker 1>and what it's like to have advanced Alzheimer's disease in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of a COVID nineteen crisis. We return now

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<v Speaker 1>to Yvonne's intimate portrait of her life with Ramona, and

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<v Speaker 1>just a warning, there's some offensive language in.

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<v Speaker 2>This part of the story. In mid April, about a

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<v Speaker 2>month after the COVID lockdown started in New York, I

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<v Speaker 2>recruited Nola, my oldest daughter, to help me dig through

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<v Speaker 2>some old photos I keep in a big plastic bin

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<v Speaker 2>in our home in Philadelphia. I took these photos out

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<v Speaker 2>of my mom's photo albums when I cleaned out her

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<v Speaker 2>apartment after she was placed in the nursing home. The

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<v Speaker 2>day I packed them three years ago, I was crying, confused,

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<v Speaker 2>and disappointed in myself for not being able to slow

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<v Speaker 2>down the inevitable. I have not looked at the photos since. Nola,

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<v Speaker 2>this is my mom's wedding picture.

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<v Speaker 5>I've seen this one. It's really pretty.

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<v Speaker 2>Nola is twenty one and studies acting and directing at NYU.

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<v Speaker 2>We're sitting on an old yellow sofa in the basement

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<v Speaker 2>and the first photo we pull out is an eleven

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<v Speaker 2>x fourteen black and white wedding picture. What do you

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<v Speaker 2>think of her dress?

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<v Speaker 5>I love her dress.

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<v Speaker 2>I love all the lace in the photo. My mom

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<v Speaker 2>is where a beautiful white lace dress and in her

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<v Speaker 2>arms a bouquet of white flowers. My dad is in

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<v Speaker 2>a dark suit behind her, holding her. She has a

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<v Speaker 2>slight smile on her face. She's twenty six, and she

0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:18.359
<v Speaker 2>looks almost regal and ready for what's next. She looks

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<v Speaker 2>like you, Yeah, do you see yourself in her?

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<v Speaker 7>M H?

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<v Speaker 5>I think you've.

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<v Speaker 2>Always Nola looking like my mom has always given me comfort.

0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:31.480
<v Speaker 2>Nola and my mom were always close. She was her Nolita,

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<v Speaker 2>her oldest grandchild, and she loved to cook Dominican food

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<v Speaker 2>for her and buy her clothes. But these photos reveal

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<v Speaker 2>an Albuerlita Nola had never seen.

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<v Speaker 5>Waita wait, what's this one?

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<v Speaker 2>Nola pulls out a black and white photo booth image

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<v Speaker 2>of my mom taken in the early nineteen fifties, that's

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<v Speaker 2>when she first came to this country. She looks so

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<v Speaker 2>good in this picture. She's looking away from the camera

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<v Speaker 2>in a playful way. She's wearing hoop earrings and dark lipstick.

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<v Speaker 2>The photo seems timeless. She's like working it. Can I

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<v Speaker 2>have this?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>I really like this picture. She looks like you and

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<v Speaker 5>this really yeah, she looks like you.

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<v Speaker 2>When people tell me I look like my mom, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't believe it. Oh my god, what a compliment. She

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<v Speaker 2>looks so pretty. We are different colors. She's light skinned

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<v Speaker 2>and I am dark skinned. I think she's way prettier

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<v Speaker 2>than me. She's petite while I'm five eight. And when

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<v Speaker 2>I was growing up, there was this idea that the

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<v Speaker 2>lighter skins you are, the prettier I tried to explain

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<v Speaker 2>this to Nola, and I was in light skin that

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't even my mother's complexion or Margie's complexion. I

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<v Speaker 2>was darker than my dad, and my darker skin led

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<v Speaker 2>to bullying. I was called ugly and mocked. The first

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<v Speaker 2>time I was called a nigger, I was in third

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<v Speaker 2>grade and it was by light skinned Latino classmates. We were,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the ugly ones, and there was nothing I

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<v Speaker 2>could do to change the color of my skin. My

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<v Speaker 2>mom indirectly reinforced in negativity by constantly commenting on my

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<v Speaker 2>hair and forcing me into painful, smaller shoes because she

0:21:15.200 --> 0:21:18.520
<v Speaker 2>didn't want me to have big feet. Although she was

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<v Speaker 2>rejected by my grandmother for being Spanish, she held some

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<v Speaker 2>form of internalized racism which was directed in me and

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<v Speaker 2>my hair. Black hair is bad. Straight hair is good,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like the hair had to be relaxed, it

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<v Speaker 2>had to be pressed. I couldn't sweat. Everything had to

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<v Speaker 2>be about my appearance, and I was a tomboy. I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to play sports and wanted to run around. My

0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:47.040
<v Speaker 2>hair didn't really go natural until you were born. And

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<v Speaker 2>when you were born and she saw you, one of

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<v Speaker 2>the first things she said to me, was how old

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<v Speaker 2>does she have to be before we can strain her hair?

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<v Speaker 2>That was the game changer. I never relaxed my hair again,

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<v Speaker 2>and my mom had to live with both my daughter's curls.

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<v Speaker 2>Growing up with my mom could be frustrating. There were

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of extremes. I grew up on one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and h Street between Manhattan Avenue and Central Park West.

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<v Speaker 2>It was rough back then, and my mom would not

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<v Speaker 2>let us out of the house. My outside space was

0:22:31.080 --> 0:22:33.960
<v Speaker 2>the fire escape. I wanted to share what that was

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<v Speaker 2>like with my daughter Nola. There were murders and people

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<v Speaker 2>got raped, and it's a lot of robberies. One of

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<v Speaker 2>my early memories is one afternoon when my mom went

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<v Speaker 2>shopping and came home with a red welt across her face.

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<v Speaker 2>She had been robbed. She had a man's handprint on

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<v Speaker 2>her face because he slapped her so hard when he

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<v Speaker 2>robbed her, and she was crying and she was really upset,

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<v Speaker 2>and she called my dad. This was not a one off.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom was robbed a lot. But the next week

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<v Speaker 2>my mother got a shopping cart out again and she

0:23:06.840 --> 0:23:11.040
<v Speaker 2>went right back to the grocery store. I admired her

0:23:11.160 --> 0:23:15.000
<v Speaker 2>for it, but it made me angry. The neighborhood was

0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:19.720
<v Speaker 2>filled with abandoned buildings and so much neglect. Our building

0:23:19.880 --> 0:23:22.200
<v Speaker 2>was abandoned by the landlord when I was a kid,

0:23:22.640 --> 0:23:26.600
<v Speaker 2>and the city took it over. Fires were set aimed

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<v Speaker 2>at forcing us to move. Most winters, we went weeks

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<v Speaker 2>without heat or hot water. Sometimes it was so cold

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<v Speaker 2>we all had to sleep in the living room with

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<v Speaker 2>a space heater and close off the rest of the apartment.

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<v Speaker 2>But my mom was happy. I think she would say

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<v Speaker 2>those were the best years of her life. We were

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<v Speaker 2>all together.

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<v Speaker 10>I feel there's a lot of her that I know,

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<v Speaker 10>you know, and that I've experienced, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 10>her that I don't like. I can see a lot

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<v Speaker 10>of vibrants in her.

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<v Speaker 2>My mother's world was the pocketbook factory, the beauty parlor,

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<v Speaker 2>and then finally the insurance company she worked for in

0:24:03.560 --> 0:24:06.800
<v Speaker 2>their mailroom. She felt like a big success coming to

0:24:06.920 --> 0:24:10.000
<v Speaker 2>this country, and she always raised me to believe how

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<v Speaker 2>lucky I was to be here. But that wasn't how

0:24:13.200 --> 0:24:17.200
<v Speaker 2>I felt. So like my mom in the Dominican Republic,

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<v Speaker 2>I dreamed of a way out, and that was something

0:24:20.359 --> 0:24:24.800
<v Speaker 2>that really drove me in my life was figuring out

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<v Speaker 2>how to get the heck out of there.

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<v Speaker 11>I mean, I think they were both driven, you know,

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<v Speaker 11>like you talk about wanting to leave one hundred and

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<v Speaker 11>h Street, but like they were there because I believe

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<v Speaker 11>to leftr like, so there's definitely like just a wanting

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<v Speaker 11>to move up and out. I mean, did you guys

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<v Speaker 11>not get along?

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<v Speaker 2>I really didn't understand her. By the time I was sixteen,

0:24:50.359 --> 0:24:53.040
<v Speaker 2>I felt that had grown past her in so many ways.

0:24:54.119 --> 0:24:57.720
<v Speaker 2>I struggled to understand the lucky sprays, the candle lighting

0:24:57.840 --> 0:25:10.639
<v Speaker 2>for saints, the hoarding, the confusion. The next photo we

0:25:10.720 --> 0:25:14.240
<v Speaker 2>pull out of the bin is of my dad, my mom,

0:25:14.920 --> 0:25:17.680
<v Speaker 2>and my sister. And this is a photo of their

0:25:18.160 --> 0:25:22.359
<v Speaker 2>first Christmas with my sister Margie. It's an eight x

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<v Speaker 2>ten black and white photo. There in front of the tree,

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<v Speaker 2>all dressed up. My sister is sitting on my dad's

0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:33.240
<v Speaker 2>lap and my mom is crouched behind them smiling. Margie

0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:34.480
<v Speaker 2>has a smirk on her face.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh, Margie's such a smash.

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<v Speaker 2>Mommy, do you remember it was Margie's birthday last week? Mommy, Mommy,

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<v Speaker 2>My big sister, Marjorie was killed in a car accident

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen eighty eight, when she was twenty seven. She

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<v Speaker 2>was engaged and on her way back from respeech in

0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:07.360
<v Speaker 2>Brooklyn when a driver high on pill struck the car

0:26:07.840 --> 0:26:11.959
<v Speaker 2>her fiance was driving. Margie and my mom were real close.

0:26:12.720 --> 0:26:15.560
<v Speaker 2>She spent endless hours in the kitchen cooking with her,

0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:19.720
<v Speaker 2>talking to her. They looked so much alike and seemed

0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:22.800
<v Speaker 2>to have so much in common. I fell close to

0:26:22.920 --> 0:26:28.280
<v Speaker 2>Margie too. She was my playmate, my friend, and always

0:26:28.320 --> 0:26:31.399
<v Speaker 2>looked out for me. This is a really hard picture

0:26:31.480 --> 0:26:34.920
<v Speaker 2>for me, Nola, because when Margie died, this was the

0:26:35.080 --> 0:26:38.520
<v Speaker 2>photo that my mother was holding and running up and

0:26:38.560 --> 0:26:43.160
<v Speaker 2>down the house screaming. If there was anything that changed

0:26:43.240 --> 0:26:55.680
<v Speaker 2>my relationship with my mom, it was Margie's death. A

0:26:55.720 --> 0:26:58.320
<v Speaker 2>few months after Margie died, I booked my mom and

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<v Speaker 2>I a flight to Paris with a stop in Rome.

0:27:02.080 --> 0:27:05.440
<v Speaker 2>I did it on a whim. It was a magical trip.

0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:09.680
<v Speaker 2>We scratched Margie's name on every surface we could, saw

0:27:09.880 --> 0:27:13.040
<v Speaker 2>every tourist site, walk too much, ate too much, and

0:27:13.240 --> 0:27:16.920
<v Speaker 2>drank too much. At one point, we were climbing to

0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:19.639
<v Speaker 2>the top of the Arc de Triomphe, and she just

0:27:19.840 --> 0:27:22.440
<v Speaker 2>zoomed by me with this huge smile. In her face,

0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:25.080
<v Speaker 2>and when we got to the top there was a

0:27:25.200 --> 0:27:29.119
<v Speaker 2>gorgeous view of Paris. I looked over at her and

0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:32.240
<v Speaker 2>at that moment, there was so much joy in her eyes,

0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:37.880
<v Speaker 2>so much hope. Despite her pain. My mom was alive

0:27:38.080 --> 0:27:41.200
<v Speaker 2>and living her life to the fullest. And I learned

0:27:41.280 --> 0:27:45.760
<v Speaker 2>so much about strength just watching her survive the unthinkable,

0:27:48.119 --> 0:27:51.120
<v Speaker 2>And for the first time in my life, I saw

0:27:51.440 --> 0:27:52.119
<v Speaker 2>what we had in.

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<v Speaker 3>Common, Mommy. I was thinking about our trip. Remember the

0:28:03.760 --> 0:28:07.480
<v Speaker 3>trip we took the Dominican Republic. Remember that trip we took,

0:28:08.200 --> 0:28:09.200
<v Speaker 3>all the fun we had.

0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:18.040
<v Speaker 2>Do you remember? Twenty four years later, I took another

0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:21.639
<v Speaker 2>life changing trip with my mom. It was twenty twelve,

0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:25.800
<v Speaker 2>her eightieth birthday, and I decided to take her and

0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:30.200
<v Speaker 2>my daughters Nola was fourteen and Margo eleven, to the

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:34.200
<v Speaker 2>Dominican Republic. I wanted them to experience where my mother

0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:34.960
<v Speaker 2>had come from.

0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:36.160
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that was fun.

0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:37.600
<v Speaker 11>That was a trip for me.

0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:43.680
<v Speaker 2>That trip was the first red flag that something was

0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:44.880
<v Speaker 2>seriously wrong.

0:28:45.400 --> 0:28:46.000
<v Speaker 5>I think that.

0:28:47.800 --> 0:28:50.880
<v Speaker 10>Going to dr it was really clear because we saw

0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:53.880
<v Speaker 10>Obbliet in the place that wasn't her house, and so

0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:57.080
<v Speaker 10>like seeing her in comparison with like other hotel guests

0:28:57.320 --> 0:29:00.400
<v Speaker 10>and like in an airport, Like I think it's a

0:29:00.400 --> 0:29:01.880
<v Speaker 10>lot easier to be like, oh.

0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:05.200
<v Speaker 5>She doesn't understand how to do things that she should

0:29:05.280 --> 0:29:05.720
<v Speaker 5>know how to do.

0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:09.960
<v Speaker 2>The trip started out uneventful. When we exited the plane,

0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:12.840
<v Speaker 2>I grabbed Margo's hand and Nola held.

0:29:12.680 --> 0:29:15.520
<v Speaker 10>My mom's, and she had some kind of like idea

0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:18.840
<v Speaker 10>that we had to go down some like secret corner

0:29:19.680 --> 0:29:22.680
<v Speaker 10>that was like not where anybody else was going.

0:29:23.480 --> 0:29:28.440
<v Speaker 2>I heard you say we're Elita no, Ablita no, and

0:29:28.560 --> 0:29:30.560
<v Speaker 2>then I was like, you know, Mommy.

0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:35.000
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I realized that like me, as the older sibling too,

0:29:35.360 --> 0:29:38.719
<v Speaker 10>you know, would have to like kind of keep an

0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:41.000
<v Speaker 10>eye on her, you know, and take care of her,

0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:42.320
<v Speaker 10>make sure that she didn't run off.

0:29:43.200 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 2>As we finally made it to the hotel, my mom

0:29:46.000 --> 0:29:49.080
<v Speaker 2>morphed into a different person. I mean we all turned

0:29:49.120 --> 0:29:52.520
<v Speaker 2>to her like, okay, Mommy, go for her. Check us in.

0:29:52.880 --> 0:29:54.840
<v Speaker 10>We were just kind of expecting that, I'll believe it

0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:57.080
<v Speaker 10>would be like our resident Spanish speaker, like we tell

0:29:57.120 --> 0:29:58.640
<v Speaker 10>her what to say in the Englishman, you'd say it

0:29:58.640 --> 0:29:59.160
<v Speaker 10>in Spanish.

0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:01.400
<v Speaker 2>She spoke sis time.

0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:02.960
<v Speaker 5>All the time.

0:30:03.080 --> 0:30:04.320
<v Speaker 2>It was primarily oh.

0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:06.240
<v Speaker 5>Spanish, you know, and if it was English.

0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:09.000
<v Speaker 10>It was like English with like Spanish words kind of

0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:09.680
<v Speaker 10>mixed in there.

0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 2>And this was like this still makes me laugh.

0:30:12.840 --> 0:30:17.040
<v Speaker 10>I know it's not funny, besca. She turned to us

0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:19.920
<v Speaker 10>like stone faced, and she.

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<v Speaker 2>Was like, I do not speak Spanish. My husband's American

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<v Speaker 2>husband is American.

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<v Speaker 11>I do not speak Spanish.

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<v Speaker 2>And we were like what I was in shock. I

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<v Speaker 2>had no idea what my mother was doing. My dad

0:30:33.560 --> 0:30:37.600
<v Speaker 2>had died in nineteen ninety seven, fifteen years before, and

0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:42.000
<v Speaker 2>my mom's first language had always been Spanish, and suddenly

0:30:42.120 --> 0:30:45.840
<v Speaker 2>she was refusing to speak it. It didn't make any sense.

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<v Speaker 5>She was so distant in.

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<v Speaker 10>A place that we really thought she was going to

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<v Speaker 10>like come alive and be really excited.

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<v Speaker 2>A few months after the trip to the Dominican Republic,

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<v Speaker 2>we were joined by on Grace and her husband Paul

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<v Speaker 2>for Thanksgiving, and Grace had noticed my mom had seemed

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<v Speaker 2>off lately and confronted us both. My mother said everything

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<v Speaker 2>was fine, and I chose to believe my mom.

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<v Speaker 9>Your mother did not want to get old.

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<v Speaker 4>That's another place she liked to stay the way she loved.

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<v Speaker 9>She wanted to be young, she did not want to

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<v Speaker 9>get old.

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<v Speaker 2>But my mother was not okay.

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<v Speaker 5>She stopped liking people.

0:31:28.760 --> 0:31:30.880
<v Speaker 10>You know, she have friends, and then she didn't like

0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:34.960
<v Speaker 10>them anymore. She got really reclusive, she got angrier.

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<v Speaker 2>In December of twenty fifteen, I decided to go with

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<v Speaker 2>my mom to see her doctor. He suggested cognitive testing

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<v Speaker 2>and gave us a referral. Three months later, after a

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:52.280
<v Speaker 2>series of tests, we ended up in a neurologious, packed

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<v Speaker 2>bronx waiting room filled with black and brown people. When

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<v Speaker 2>it was finally our turn, we were told my mom

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<v Speaker 2>had out Gheimer's disease. The doctor wrote down a few

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<v Speaker 2>URLs and told me to google it. A life altering,

0:32:07.440 --> 0:32:11.120
<v Speaker 2>life ending diagnosis was given to her in the same

0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:15.000
<v Speaker 2>manner I was told. I was nearsighted. I grabbed my

0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:19.200
<v Speaker 2>mother's hand as she stared blankly at the doctor. It

0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:22.000
<v Speaker 2>was clear she was just a number to him, part

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<v Speaker 2>of the statistic that shows a growing number of Latinos

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<v Speaker 2>and African Americans stricken by this disease. I soon learned

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<v Speaker 2>that African Americans are two times more likely and Latinos

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<v Speaker 2>one and a half times more likely to develop Alzheimer's

0:32:36.640 --> 0:32:39.840
<v Speaker 2>disease than white Americans. And so here is where my

0:32:39.920 --> 0:32:43.400
<v Speaker 2>mom and I clashed again. She struggled to believe the

0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:46.680
<v Speaker 2>diagnosis while I was researching the hell out of it

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<v Speaker 2>and trying to form a fight plan.

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<v Speaker 9>But your mother said to me, you know how Ivana,

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<v Speaker 9>she's always torn. I said, your daughter talks a lot

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<v Speaker 9>of stuff, but a lot of stuff is true because she.

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<v Speaker 2>I was lost in my research and disgusted by what

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<v Speaker 2>I found. All the issues that play communities of color

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<v Speaker 2>converge in making Alzheimer's disease the last chapter of too

0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:16.680
<v Speaker 2>many of our lives. Low socioeconomic status, high rates of

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<v Speaker 2>cardiovascular disease, and a higher incidence of diabetes, high blood pressure, obesity,

0:33:23.600 --> 0:33:29.959
<v Speaker 2>and depression are aggravating factors, even education factors. In Latinos

0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:32.800
<v Speaker 2>also may develop symptoms at a younger age than non

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<v Speaker 2>Latino whites, and the community is under resourced. Income, retirement

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<v Speaker 2>and pension benefits are far too thin to get too

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<v Speaker 2>many members of my community the help the resources it needs.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought about my future. We it's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>my end too, and I search for answers, anything to help.

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<v Speaker 2>A few weeks after my mother received her dietnosis, hallucinations

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<v Speaker 2>began to take over her world.

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<v Speaker 10>She was seeing this boy like in her apartment. This

0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:12.080
<v Speaker 10>like evil boy to me felt like big demon energy.

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<v Speaker 2>By the summer of twenty sixteen, things spiraled out of control.

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<v Speaker 2>My mother's behavior became more erratic, even dangerous, and at.

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<v Speaker 10>One point it got so bad that she was hiding

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<v Speaker 10>knives so that she could stab the boy. She needed

0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:31.799
<v Speaker 10>an aid all the time because it just wasn't safe

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<v Speaker 10>for her to be alone.

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<v Speaker 2>Six months after getting her original diagnosis, I scrambled to

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<v Speaker 2>get her into a clinical trial. Latinos make up just

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<v Speaker 2>seven point five percent of research participants, and I read

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<v Speaker 2>that clinical trials are key to finding ways to help

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<v Speaker 2>not only my mom, but other Latinos caught in the

0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:54.880
<v Speaker 2>web of this disease. Since my mother was presenting with

0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:59.000
<v Speaker 2>psychotic tendencies, her new doctor suggests that this could help.

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<v Speaker 2>Time demands were horrific. The driving her back and forth

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<v Speaker 2>from the Bronx where she lived, to Columbia Presbyterian Hospital

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<v Speaker 2>in Upper Manhattan, the waiting in the office, interviews with

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<v Speaker 2>several doctors, the administration of the drug which she could

0:35:14.960 --> 0:35:18.600
<v Speaker 2>not do herself. It was about six weeks of stress,

0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:22.680
<v Speaker 2>and in the end she got the placebo. I was

0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:24.440
<v Speaker 2>wrecked and like.

0:35:24.520 --> 0:35:26.640
<v Speaker 10>Things just got harder, like we couldn't do Christmas the

0:35:26.719 --> 0:35:27.160
<v Speaker 10>same way.

0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:30.480
<v Speaker 2>I also discovered my mom had given away all her

0:35:30.600 --> 0:35:34.840
<v Speaker 2>money to mail order psychics who promised her riches. She

0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:38.000
<v Speaker 2>was always binge buying from catalogs, and.

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<v Speaker 10>I feel like and it's because you like love her

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<v Speaker 10>and like see the best in her and want her

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<v Speaker 10>to be okay. But you always hope that it's going

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 10>to get better, and instead it gets worse.

0:35:52.640 --> 0:35:55.640
<v Speaker 2>And it did. The hallucinations of the boy and her

0:35:55.680 --> 0:35:58.799
<v Speaker 2>apartment were joined by Ice agents, who she believed were

0:35:58.840 --> 0:36:01.680
<v Speaker 2>coming to deport her, despite the fact that she was

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<v Speaker 2>an American citizen. She would call me frantic that they

0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:09.160
<v Speaker 2>were coming for her, begging me to help her. Things

0:36:09.239 --> 0:36:11.880
<v Speaker 2>kept spiraling out of control until she ended up in

0:36:11.960 --> 0:36:15.160
<v Speaker 2>the nursing home, the last thing I wanted to happen.

0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:20.680
<v Speaker 2>And now my mom, who worked all her life, learned English,

0:36:21.200 --> 0:36:24.520
<v Speaker 2>raised two daughters, and gave me the tools to succeed,

0:36:25.640 --> 0:36:28.000
<v Speaker 2>her life has deteriorated.

0:36:27.280 --> 0:36:35.640
<v Speaker 3>To this Mommy Ramona Ramonita Abita.

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<v Speaker 4>Long deal.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom's nursing home is big. It's residents are mostly

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<v Speaker 2>black and Latino. Some strap boomboxes to their wheelchair so

0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:49.719
<v Speaker 2>you often hear music like salsa or hip hop. The

0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 2>elevators are very slow and it's a bit run down.

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<v Speaker 2>Before COVID they had started renovations, but it's a sad place,

0:36:58.520 --> 0:37:05.080
<v Speaker 2>not a lot of smiles. Hello, Hi, Hi. When COVID

0:37:05.160 --> 0:37:07.920
<v Speaker 2>first struck her nursing home, I took advantage of the

0:37:07.960 --> 0:37:11.880
<v Speaker 2>skype calls they offered, Hi, Mommy, Hi, how are you.

0:37:12.920 --> 0:37:15.400
<v Speaker 2>The first two or three I made, she seemed to

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<v Speaker 2>know who I was by the end of the call,

0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:25.080
<v Speaker 2>but the last few I had she had absolutely no

0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:32.040
<v Speaker 2>idea patients, they have no recreational activity. They're isolated a lot. Iris,

0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:34.440
<v Speaker 2>the nurse we heard from earlier, told me about the

0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:38.080
<v Speaker 2>extreme lockdown measures in my mother's nursing home after the

0:37:38.160 --> 0:37:41.240
<v Speaker 2>first case of COVID nineteen was discovered back in March.

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<v Speaker 6>The little bit of stimulus they were able to absorb

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<v Speaker 6>has disappeared.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom did have a group of friends. She did

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<v Speaker 2>art classes, played bingo, went to church and loved the

0:37:53.080 --> 0:37:56.200
<v Speaker 2>music group where they would play Celia Cruz, Mark Anthony

0:37:56.320 --> 0:37:59.520
<v Speaker 2>and Beyonce to the residents who would dance in their wheelchair.

0:38:00.520 --> 0:38:03.680
<v Speaker 2>Now she's wheeled into the hallway and placed six feet

0:38:03.680 --> 0:38:06.120
<v Speaker 2>away from her friends so they can look at each other.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen a lot of patients experience a tremendous decline.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my mom. I last saw her five months ago

0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:17.960
<v Speaker 2>and have no idea if or when I will see

0:38:18.000 --> 0:38:20.480
<v Speaker 2>her again. I know there has been a lot of

0:38:20.600 --> 0:38:22.880
<v Speaker 2>death in the nursing home, but I can't get a

0:38:22.920 --> 0:38:27.040
<v Speaker 2>straight answer to how many residents have died. Sometimes I

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<v Speaker 2>obsess over what's next, what will happen to her? What

0:38:30.880 --> 0:38:33.319
<v Speaker 2>is the timeline? But there is none.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a hard answer. I mean usually loss of functional status,

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<v Speaker 6>the loss of the ability to speak, weight loss, loss

0:38:45.040 --> 0:38:50.360
<v Speaker 6>of ability to feed yourself, more apathy. All of that

0:38:51.600 --> 0:38:58.680
<v Speaker 6>points to worsening dementia, and dementia is a fatal illness.

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<v Speaker 2>I have at this point on memories to get me through,

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<v Speaker 2>like the last time she sang me Happy Birthday last

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<v Speaker 2>year before she truly lost the ability to speak.

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<v Speaker 5>The virus they told you stay they are evil, A

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<v Speaker 5>pre virals stay, and.

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit of Nola's wisdom.

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<v Speaker 10>I don't expect anything from her. I can always just

0:39:31.200 --> 0:39:33.879
<v Speaker 10>see that face value and be happy that they get

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<v Speaker 10>to see her at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Nola is so my mom's grandchild.

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<v Speaker 11>I don't care.

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<v Speaker 10>I don't care if she remembers me or not. If

0:39:42.440 --> 0:39:49.560
<v Speaker 10>she knows my name like okay, And if she doesn't like,

0:39:49.680 --> 0:39:50.359
<v Speaker 10>that's okay too.

0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:53.000
<v Speaker 2>And so I asked her she could reach her just

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<v Speaker 2>one more time. What she would want to talk to

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<v Speaker 2>her about?

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<v Speaker 10>Her hair is getting so long, and it's really solid,

0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:03.040
<v Speaker 10>and it's really gorgeous. And I wish you could tell,

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<v Speaker 10>like completely lucid Aqualita that her hair looks.

0:40:06.560 --> 0:40:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Really nice and my mom's hair, for the first time

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<v Speaker 2>in her life, is natural. I wish I could tell

0:40:18.160 --> 0:40:21.280
<v Speaker 2>her about my daughter Margot's high school parking lot graduation.

0:40:22.040 --> 0:40:23.960
<v Speaker 2>And I wish I could tell her that Nolah's doing

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<v Speaker 2>great in college and in love. And I wish I

0:40:27.160 --> 0:40:29.680
<v Speaker 2>could fill her in on all the gossip, tell her

0:40:29.760 --> 0:40:33.360
<v Speaker 2>stories about my hectic job. And I wish that she

0:40:33.440 --> 0:40:38.760
<v Speaker 2>would remember me, always remember me, her daughter, her only

0:40:39.000 --> 0:40:45.880
<v Speaker 2>living daughter. Hi, Mommy, it's Yvonne Ybonne. Do eat her?

0:40:48.200 --> 0:40:55.680
<v Speaker 2>It is, but she doesn't remember me anymore. So in

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<v Speaker 2>the end, COVID nineteen did take my mom, not physically,

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<v Speaker 2>but it took what was left of her essence. I

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<v Speaker 2>love her, and I choose to hold her memories until

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<v Speaker 2>I too Am just a memory.

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<v Speaker 1>Our thanks to Yvonne Lattie for bringing us that story.

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<v Speaker 1>Yvonne is a journalist who also teaches journalism at New

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<v Speaker 1>York University. Alzheimer's In Color is a collaboration with Black

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<v Speaker 2>The Corporation for Public Broadcasting.

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<v Speaker 1>We want to thank Denise Green from BPM, Jason Risendez,

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<v Speaker 1>the organization Latinos Against Alzheimer's, and Janelle Pifer. If you

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<v Speaker 1>need help or supportavocating Alzheimer's disease, contact the Alzheimer's Association

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<v Speaker 1>at alz dot org. This episode was edited by Luis

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