1 00:00:15,370 --> 00:00:23,050 Speaker 1: Pushkin a warning before we start. Many of our cautionary 2 00:00:23,050 --> 00:00:27,090 Speaker 1: tales end in tragedy, but this one discusses death by suicide. 3 00:00:27,530 --> 00:00:31,450 Speaker 1: If you're suffering emotional distress or having suicidal thoughts, support 4 00:00:31,570 --> 00:00:35,690 Speaker 1: is available, for example, from the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline 5 00:00:35,850 --> 00:00:42,970 Speaker 1: in the US. In the year eight sixty nine, an 6 00:00:43,010 --> 00:00:48,770 Speaker 1: earthquake hit Japan, a big one. There's an account from 7 00:00:48,770 --> 00:00:52,970 Speaker 1: the time. It tells of violent trembling people buried under 8 00:00:53,010 --> 00:00:56,610 Speaker 1: fallen houses, while horses and cows desperately ran about and 9 00:00:56,690 --> 00:01:02,050 Speaker 1: trampled each other. After the quake came the tsunami, roaring 10 00:01:02,090 --> 00:01:05,170 Speaker 1: like thunder was heard towards the sea. The chronicles of 11 00:01:05,210 --> 00:01:08,130 Speaker 1: eight to sixty nine rode the sea soon rushed into 12 00:01:08,170 --> 00:01:17,730 Speaker 1: the villages and turns. In the nineteen sixties, eleven centuries later, 13 00:01:18,170 --> 00:01:21,490 Speaker 1: a nuclear power plant was planned for the same area. 14 00:01:21,850 --> 00:01:25,210 Speaker 1: The project designers had to ponder the lessons of the past. 15 00:01:25,730 --> 00:01:28,570 Speaker 1: They would build a seawall to protect the plant, of course, 16 00:01:28,930 --> 00:01:33,050 Speaker 1: but how big should it be. Unfortunately, the account from 17 00:01:33,090 --> 00:01:36,810 Speaker 1: eight to sixty nine didn't say how high the tsunami was, 18 00:01:37,410 --> 00:01:40,490 Speaker 1: so the engineers had to make an educated guess at 19 00:01:40,530 --> 00:01:45,570 Speaker 1: the reasonable worst case scenario. Nineteen feet is roughly the 20 00:01:45,570 --> 00:01:48,890 Speaker 1: height of a two story building. A wave any bigger 21 00:01:48,930 --> 00:01:53,770 Speaker 1: would really stretch the imagination. If your seawall could withstand that, 22 00:01:54,370 --> 00:02:00,530 Speaker 1: you should be okay. Wouldn't you think I'm Tim Harford 23 00:02:01,210 --> 00:02:28,530 Speaker 1: and you're listening to cautionary tales. The nuclear plant was 24 00:02:28,610 --> 00:02:33,010 Speaker 1: named Fukushima Daichi, and the engineers thought it was well protected. 25 00:02:33,650 --> 00:02:37,810 Speaker 1: Then on March eleventh, two and eleven, one of the 26 00:02:37,930 --> 00:02:43,970 Speaker 1: largest earthquakes in recorded history sent another devastating tsunami, roaring 27 00:02:44,010 --> 00:02:48,450 Speaker 1: towards the coast. It scoured coastal communities and sucked their 28 00:02:48,450 --> 00:02:52,570 Speaker 1: remains into the sea, killing more than fifteen thousand people. 29 00:02:53,850 --> 00:02:57,010 Speaker 1: But when at three twenty seven in the afternoon it 30 00:02:57,130 --> 00:03:01,730 Speaker 1: struck the Fukshima power station, those engineers might briefly have 31 00:03:01,850 --> 00:03:08,010 Speaker 1: felt vindicated. Their wall repelled the wave, alas tsunamis come 32 00:03:08,090 --> 00:03:11,850 Speaker 1: in more than one wave. Eight minutes later, the next 33 00:03:11,930 --> 00:03:16,130 Speaker 1: one appeared, and it was bigger, much bigger. It roared 34 00:03:16,170 --> 00:03:19,370 Speaker 1: over the wall. It knocked out the power supply. Without 35 00:03:19,450 --> 00:03:22,530 Speaker 1: electricity to pump cooling water, the workers knew it was 36 00:03:22,610 --> 00:03:26,050 Speaker 1: only a matter of time before the reactors started to overheat, 37 00:03:26,930 --> 00:03:30,330 Speaker 1: but how much time was a mystery, as the control 38 00:03:30,410 --> 00:03:35,890 Speaker 1: panel had also gone dark. Desperate workers borrowed flashlights from 39 00:03:35,930 --> 00:03:39,570 Speaker 1: nearby homeowners. They inched through the bowels of the plant, 40 00:03:39,810 --> 00:03:43,010 Speaker 1: looking at the gages. They strained to heave open vents 41 00:03:43,050 --> 00:03:46,210 Speaker 1: that might release the growing pressure and stave off explosions. 42 00:03:47,330 --> 00:03:50,730 Speaker 1: But this cautionary tale isn't about the design of nuclear 43 00:03:50,770 --> 00:03:54,930 Speaker 1: power plants in tsunami prone areas. It's about what happened 44 00:03:54,970 --> 00:03:58,170 Speaker 1: next and what lessons we should learn as we cope 45 00:03:58,170 --> 00:04:08,610 Speaker 1: with a fallout of any disaster. Mikio Watanabe and his 46 00:04:08,650 --> 00:04:13,490 Speaker 1: wife Hammoko grew up in Yamakia, a rural rice growing 47 00:04:13,530 --> 00:04:18,290 Speaker 1: area not far from Fukushima, Daichi. Mikio and Hammoco had 48 00:04:18,290 --> 00:04:21,650 Speaker 1: been married for thirty nine years and raised three children. 49 00:04:22,130 --> 00:04:24,730 Speaker 1: They were looking forward to seeing out their old age 50 00:04:24,730 --> 00:04:27,930 Speaker 1: in their picturesque hilltop home, but they couldn't afford to 51 00:04:27,930 --> 00:04:31,210 Speaker 1: retire just yet. They had taken out a second mortgage 52 00:04:31,250 --> 00:04:34,770 Speaker 1: to renovate the house for the next generation. On the 53 00:04:34,890 --> 00:04:39,170 Speaker 1: evening of the tsunami, as engineers scrambled to contain the damage, 54 00:04:39,490 --> 00:04:43,690 Speaker 1: the authorities ordered everyone living close to the plant to evacuate. 55 00:04:44,850 --> 00:04:47,810 Speaker 1: The next morning, they widened the evacuation zone by a 56 00:04:47,850 --> 00:04:51,890 Speaker 1: few more miles, then more again. As scientists tried to 57 00:04:51,930 --> 00:04:56,570 Speaker 1: model the radiation spread, more villages got evacuation orders. Eventually, 58 00:04:56,810 --> 00:05:00,090 Speaker 1: about one hundred and sixty four thousand people had been 59 00:05:00,130 --> 00:05:04,850 Speaker 1: told to leave their homes. Mikio and Hammoko were among them. 60 00:05:05,850 --> 00:05:08,890 Speaker 1: The chicken farm where the Watanabe's worked was also forced 61 00:05:08,890 --> 00:05:11,930 Speaker 1: to clothes. Who wants to buy chicken raised near a 62 00:05:12,010 --> 00:05:17,490 Speaker 1: nuclear disaster? Michio and Hammoco lost their jobs. Sheltering in 63 00:05:17,570 --> 00:05:22,330 Speaker 1: temporary accommodation, they had nothing to fill their days but worry. 64 00:05:22,530 --> 00:05:25,970 Speaker 1: Mikio says of his wife. She cried so much and 65 00:05:26,050 --> 00:05:30,250 Speaker 1: repeatedly asked me to take her to our home. In June, 66 00:05:30,370 --> 00:05:32,930 Speaker 1: they asked the authorities for permission to go back and 67 00:05:33,050 --> 00:05:36,970 Speaker 1: check on their old house. It was granted for one 68 00:05:37,290 --> 00:05:42,050 Speaker 1: night only. The weeds in the garden they found had 69 00:05:42,050 --> 00:05:46,170 Speaker 1: grown to almost head high. Michio set about clearing them 70 00:05:46,210 --> 00:05:50,210 Speaker 1: while Hammoco cooked dinner. It was just like old times. 71 00:05:50,210 --> 00:05:52,970 Speaker 1: She was happy to be back in her kitchen. Why 72 00:05:52,970 --> 00:05:59,050 Speaker 1: not just stay? Did they really have to leave again tomorrow? Yes, 73 00:05:59,410 --> 00:06:04,890 Speaker 1: said Michio sadly, Yes they did. Well, you can go 74 00:06:04,930 --> 00:06:08,210 Speaker 1: back said Hammoko. But I want to stay here, even 75 00:06:08,250 --> 00:06:10,730 Speaker 1: if that means living alone. I never want to leave 76 00:06:10,770 --> 00:06:14,050 Speaker 1: my home. Don't be stupid. We have to leave together. 77 00:06:15,770 --> 00:06:18,650 Speaker 1: That night, Michio got up to use the bathroom. When 78 00:06:18,650 --> 00:06:22,050 Speaker 1: he got back to bed, Hammoco grabbed his arm and 79 00:06:22,090 --> 00:06:26,930 Speaker 1: wouldn't let go. She was crying so hard. Then in 80 00:06:26,970 --> 00:06:30,810 Speaker 1: the morning, Mikio got up early. He went back outside 81 00:06:30,810 --> 00:06:34,330 Speaker 1: to finish clearing. In the distance, he noticed a fire. 82 00:06:35,130 --> 00:06:37,890 Speaker 1: He thought nothing of it. Hammoco must be burning. The 83 00:06:37,890 --> 00:06:41,570 Speaker 1: weeds had cut down yesterday. Only later did he discover 84 00:06:41,650 --> 00:06:46,490 Speaker 1: her charred body. His wife had doused herself in kerosene 85 00:06:47,330 --> 00:06:52,090 Speaker 1: and set herself alight. Three months after the cruel sea retreated, 86 00:06:52,770 --> 00:07:02,410 Speaker 1: the tsunami had claimed another victim. Hammoco's death was horrifying, 87 00:07:03,570 --> 00:07:06,530 Speaker 1: but she was a hidden victim of the disaster. Because 88 00:07:06,650 --> 00:07:10,450 Speaker 1: nobody would connect to death by suicide with a tsunami 89 00:07:10,610 --> 00:07:15,370 Speaker 1: months earlier. It would instead seem a sad and unrelated statistic. 90 00:07:16,290 --> 00:07:19,410 Speaker 1: For this reason, it's what we might call a hidden death, 91 00:07:19,850 --> 00:07:23,810 Speaker 1: and hidden deaths are all too easy to overlook. To 92 00:07:23,850 --> 00:07:27,810 Speaker 1: see why, let's leave the tsunami for a train crash. 93 00:07:27,850 --> 00:07:30,250 Speaker 1: I'm sorry some of our cautionary tales can be like that. 94 00:07:30,330 --> 00:07:34,410 Speaker 1: I'm afraid. The train in question is traveling north from 95 00:07:34,450 --> 00:07:37,810 Speaker 1: London to Leeds in the United Kingdom in the year 96 00:07:37,890 --> 00:07:41,650 Speaker 1: two thousand. It's approaching the town of Hatfield, but one 97 00:07:41,690 --> 00:07:44,930 Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen miles per hour. But the rail has 98 00:07:44,970 --> 00:07:48,810 Speaker 1: the tiny cracks. The metal has been getting gradually fatigued 99 00:07:49,170 --> 00:07:53,210 Speaker 1: until now it's held together. But this train turns out 100 00:07:53,210 --> 00:08:00,090 Speaker 1: to be one too many. The cracked rail shatters, the 101 00:08:00,210 --> 00:08:03,850 Speaker 1: train skids off the tracks, One of the carriages overturns 102 00:08:03,890 --> 00:08:07,490 Speaker 1: and hits a gantry. Four passengers are killed, more than 103 00:08:07,530 --> 00:08:15,210 Speaker 1: seventy injured. The Hatfield derailing was a serious accident, which 104 00:08:15,290 --> 00:08:19,610 Speaker 1: raised an alarming question how many other rails across the 105 00:08:19,650 --> 00:08:23,370 Speaker 1: country might also be just one train away from failing. 106 00:08:24,250 --> 00:08:27,370 Speaker 1: The people in charge decided they should take no chances 107 00:08:27,490 --> 00:08:31,170 Speaker 1: while they found out. They put strict new speed restrictions 108 00:08:31,170 --> 00:08:34,210 Speaker 1: on stretches of track across the country and began the 109 00:08:34,290 --> 00:08:37,730 Speaker 1: painstaking process of examining the tracks for signs of damage. 110 00:08:38,170 --> 00:08:41,410 Speaker 1: If another rail failed, the thinking went, the trains would 111 00:08:41,410 --> 00:08:43,970 Speaker 1: at least be going much more slowly, there'd be more 112 00:08:44,090 --> 00:08:47,970 Speaker 1: chance of surviving an accident. That made sense, but it 113 00:08:48,050 --> 00:08:53,090 Speaker 1: had a predictable consequence. Many rail passengers also own cars, 114 00:08:53,650 --> 00:08:57,290 Speaker 1: and every journey is a choice which will be quicker, cheaper, 115 00:08:57,530 --> 00:09:01,850 Speaker 1: and less hassle. Slow the trains and you change that equation. 116 00:09:02,250 --> 00:09:06,610 Speaker 1: Passenger numbers fell by almost half. And when people abandoned 117 00:09:06,650 --> 00:09:10,570 Speaker 1: the train and getting their cars. Instead of fatal consequences, 118 00:09:11,370 --> 00:09:16,730 Speaker 1: train crashes mercifully are rare. Car crashes are not. Your 119 00:09:16,770 --> 00:09:19,090 Speaker 1: twelve times as likely to be killed in a car 120 00:09:19,210 --> 00:09:22,490 Speaker 1: than on a train for each mile traveled. So if 121 00:09:22,570 --> 00:09:26,850 Speaker 1: slower trains mean more car journeys, that probably meant more 122 00:09:27,010 --> 00:09:31,490 Speaker 1: road accidents too. How many more crunch the numbers and 123 00:09:31,610 --> 00:09:36,170 Speaker 1: it was probably about five extra deaths and seventy five injuries, 124 00:09:36,530 --> 00:09:41,050 Speaker 1: almost exactly replicating the toll from the derailment. But there's 125 00:09:41,050 --> 00:09:45,690 Speaker 1: something else about those five people who died. They're just statistics. 126 00:09:46,130 --> 00:09:49,050 Speaker 1: Their names weren't in the newspapers. We don't even know 127 00:09:49,090 --> 00:09:52,770 Speaker 1: if there were five, Maybe there were three or eight, 128 00:09:53,410 --> 00:09:57,370 Speaker 1: or if we were very lucky none at all. Nobody 129 00:09:57,410 --> 00:10:01,890 Speaker 1: blamed the policymakers for having allowed another hat field. As 130 00:10:01,890 --> 00:10:05,930 Speaker 1: a society, we tend not to notice hidden deaths. If 131 00:10:05,930 --> 00:10:08,530 Speaker 1: those deaths happened to our friends or our family. We 132 00:10:08,650 --> 00:10:12,010 Speaker 1: grieve them, but we usually believe the deaths were bad luck, 133 00:10:12,130 --> 00:10:17,410 Speaker 1: that they couldn't have been prevented, usually, but not always. 134 00:10:21,890 --> 00:10:26,290 Speaker 1: After his wife's suicide, Mikio Watanabe decided to sue TEPCO, 135 00:10:26,690 --> 00:10:30,610 Speaker 1: the Tokyo Electric Power Company, the operators of the Fukushima 136 00:10:30,650 --> 00:10:34,130 Speaker 1: Daichi Nuclear Power Plant. For them to argue that the 137 00:10:34,130 --> 00:10:39,410 Speaker 1: suicide is not directly related is unforgivable. If the accident 138 00:10:39,490 --> 00:10:42,890 Speaker 1: hadn't happened, he said, he and Hammoco would have lived 139 00:10:42,890 --> 00:10:48,330 Speaker 1: a normal, peaceful life. TEPCO had already compensated the evacuees 140 00:10:48,730 --> 00:10:51,130 Speaker 1: for part of the value of their homes and their 141 00:10:51,170 --> 00:10:54,050 Speaker 1: lost income, plus a flat fee of a thousand dollars 142 00:10:54,090 --> 00:10:58,770 Speaker 1: a month to cover their emotional distress. For Mikio, that 143 00:10:59,090 --> 00:11:03,010 Speaker 1: flat fee didn't begin to acknowledge his bereavement or his 144 00:11:03,170 --> 00:11:07,410 Speaker 1: late wife's obvious anguish. He asked the court to agree 145 00:11:07,970 --> 00:11:16,530 Speaker 1: that it wasn't enough. Hamako Watanabe wasn't the only person 146 00:11:16,570 --> 00:11:20,130 Speaker 1: who found the evacuation after Fukushima too hard to cope with. 147 00:11:20,810 --> 00:11:24,130 Speaker 1: Fumio Okubo was one hundred and two years old. He 148 00:11:24,250 --> 00:11:26,330 Speaker 1: heard on the TV news that his village had been 149 00:11:26,370 --> 00:11:30,770 Speaker 1: instructed to evacuate. I don't want to leave, he told 150 00:11:30,770 --> 00:11:36,450 Speaker 1: his daughter in law. Then I've lived too long. That night, 151 00:11:37,290 --> 00:11:42,330 Speaker 1: he killed himself. A few years later, an official report 152 00:11:42,410 --> 00:11:45,170 Speaker 1: looked into how many suicides were linked to the disaster 153 00:11:45,210 --> 00:11:50,050 Speaker 1: at Fukushima, Daichi. The research has counted fifty six. That 154 00:11:50,210 --> 00:11:54,250 Speaker 1: might have been an underestimate. The national broadcaster NHK put 155 00:11:54,290 --> 00:11:58,810 Speaker 1: the figure at one hundred and thirty. The suicides were 156 00:11:58,850 --> 00:12:02,210 Speaker 1: only a fraction of the hidden deaths. The first evacuations 157 00:12:02,210 --> 00:12:04,970 Speaker 1: were ordered in a hurry as workers strained to ease 158 00:12:05,010 --> 00:12:07,930 Speaker 1: the pressure in the overheating reactors. A bus would arrive 159 00:12:07,970 --> 00:12:09,890 Speaker 1: in the village and simply had to get on with 160 00:12:09,930 --> 00:12:12,730 Speaker 1: whatever possessions you could carry. There was no time to 161 00:12:12,770 --> 00:12:15,530 Speaker 1: plan or prepare. How could there be. The threat from 162 00:12:15,650 --> 00:12:20,450 Speaker 1: radiation brooked no delays. Some elderly residents of nursing homes 163 00:12:20,610 --> 00:12:23,530 Speaker 1: couldn't get onto the buses themselves, so they were carried 164 00:12:23,530 --> 00:12:26,330 Speaker 1: on and laid across the seats, and the bus was 165 00:12:26,410 --> 00:12:29,890 Speaker 1: driven off without doctors or nurses or for the first 166 00:12:29,930 --> 00:12:33,610 Speaker 1: few hours food or water. Some of them didn't make it. 167 00:12:35,010 --> 00:12:39,250 Speaker 1: There were longer term effects from lifestyle changes. Many evacuees 168 00:12:39,250 --> 00:12:42,370 Speaker 1: were farmers, used to the outdoors, and now they lived 169 00:12:42,370 --> 00:12:47,850 Speaker 1: cooped up rates of hypertension, rows and diabetes. Others suffered 170 00:12:47,850 --> 00:12:51,170 Speaker 1: because they were already vulnerable and their care was being disrupted, 171 00:12:53,210 --> 00:12:56,970 Speaker 1: say Ochie, a doctor and researcher, told The Financial Times. 172 00:12:57,410 --> 00:13:01,130 Speaker 1: If you compare nursing homes that evacuated with those that didn't, 173 00:13:01,450 --> 00:13:04,490 Speaker 1: the death rate was three times higher among those who moved. 174 00:13:05,370 --> 00:13:09,010 Speaker 1: In all, it's reckoned that the evacuation hastened around two 175 00:13:09,530 --> 00:13:15,210 Speaker 1: thousand deaths. And beyond the hidden deaths, there's the hidden suffering. 176 00:13:15,610 --> 00:13:19,370 Speaker 1: Satoru Yamauchi owned a noodle bar that had to close. 177 00:13:19,770 --> 00:13:22,410 Speaker 1: His family didn't want to risk staying just outside the 178 00:13:22,450 --> 00:13:25,970 Speaker 1: evacuation zone. What if the officials hadn't been cautious enough, 179 00:13:26,130 --> 00:13:29,410 Speaker 1: and what if they'd underestimated the danger from the radiation. 180 00:13:30,370 --> 00:13:33,770 Speaker 1: The Yamaouchis decided to move a hundred and thirty miles 181 00:13:33,810 --> 00:13:37,690 Speaker 1: to Tokyo, where they had a grim time. They struggled 182 00:13:37,730 --> 00:13:41,650 Speaker 1: for money, They hated their cramped living quarters. Their children 183 00:13:41,650 --> 00:13:51,290 Speaker 1: were bullied psychologically, says mister Yamauchi. We were wrecked. But 184 00:13:51,410 --> 00:13:54,730 Speaker 1: all this trauma has to be weighed against the counter factual. 185 00:13:55,330 --> 00:13:58,050 Speaker 1: What the effects of radiation would have been had the 186 00:13:58,090 --> 00:14:02,610 Speaker 1: evacuations not been ordered, How many would have died? That 187 00:14:02,770 --> 00:14:06,410 Speaker 1: question was studdied by Philip Thomas, a risk management professor 188 00:14:06,610 --> 00:14:11,410 Speaker 1: at the UK's University of Bristol. He found a disconcerting answer. 189 00:14:12,290 --> 00:14:14,650 Speaker 1: The radiation turned out to be less of a danger 190 00:14:14,690 --> 00:14:18,650 Speaker 1: than feared. In the worst affected villages. The evacuation added 191 00:14:18,690 --> 00:14:23,050 Speaker 1: perhaps two or three months to average expected lifespans. In 192 00:14:23,090 --> 00:14:26,010 Speaker 1: some places that were evacuated, the risk of radiation would 193 00:14:26,010 --> 00:14:28,610 Speaker 1: have been much more minor, and the gains from leaving 194 00:14:29,050 --> 00:14:33,210 Speaker 1: were tiny. The statistics suggested that, after their years of 195 00:14:33,250 --> 00:14:37,090 Speaker 1: struggle in Tokyo, the Yamauchies might now expect to live 196 00:14:37,770 --> 00:14:42,930 Speaker 1: for an extra couple of days. With hindsight, says Professor Thomas, 197 00:14:43,490 --> 00:14:50,050 Speaker 1: we can say the evacuation was a mistake. I'm not 198 00:14:50,210 --> 00:14:54,250 Speaker 1: here to judge that decision. I am interested in understanding it. 199 00:14:54,930 --> 00:14:57,690 Speaker 1: Predicting the effect of a radical policy such as an 200 00:14:57,690 --> 00:15:02,610 Speaker 1: evacuation is hard, especially when situations are unusual and fast moving. 201 00:15:03,410 --> 00:15:06,250 Speaker 1: Here's a quote from a study published four years after 202 00:15:06,290 --> 00:15:09,890 Speaker 1: the disaster. To our knowledge, this is the first quantitative 203 00:15:09,890 --> 00:15:13,090 Speaker 1: assessment of the risk trade off between radiation exposure and 204 00:15:13,170 --> 00:15:17,650 Speaker 1: evacuation after a nuclear power plant accident. Well, quite, it's 205 00:15:17,650 --> 00:15:20,330 Speaker 1: not like there was a manual, nor did any single 206 00:15:20,410 --> 00:15:23,690 Speaker 1: expert have all the needed knowledge. The scientists trained to 207 00:15:23,690 --> 00:15:26,490 Speaker 1: plot the course of nuclear fallout aren't likely to have 208 00:15:26,530 --> 00:15:30,930 Speaker 1: also studied the psychological impact of evacuations. Then there's an 209 00:15:30,970 --> 00:15:35,970 Speaker 1: idea social scientists call the identifiable victim effect. The behavioral 210 00:15:36,010 --> 00:15:40,970 Speaker 1: economist George Lowenstein, who studied that effect, explains that identified 211 00:15:41,050 --> 00:15:44,170 Speaker 1: victims get much more attention and help than much more 212 00:15:44,210 --> 00:15:49,250 Speaker 1: statistical victims that will predictably emerge in the future. Charities 213 00:15:49,250 --> 00:15:52,770 Speaker 1: know all about the identifiable victim effect. It's why they 214 00:15:52,770 --> 00:15:55,930 Speaker 1: don't show you an infographic about a million children at 215 00:15:56,010 --> 00:15:59,530 Speaker 1: risk of starvation. They show you a photograph of one 216 00:15:59,890 --> 00:16:04,890 Speaker 1: specific named starving child. How vividly we can imagine the 217 00:16:04,930 --> 00:16:07,690 Speaker 1: plight of the victim seems to be part of the effect, 218 00:16:08,170 --> 00:16:12,010 Speaker 1: but only part. We also appear to feel more responsibility 219 00:16:12,090 --> 00:16:15,370 Speaker 1: to save people from clear and present risks, rather than 220 00:16:15,450 --> 00:16:19,490 Speaker 1: risks we must know are going to materialize but haven't yet. 221 00:16:20,170 --> 00:16:24,010 Speaker 1: Perhaps that's what's going on. The fatigued metal rails, the 222 00:16:24,130 --> 00:16:27,890 Speaker 1: melting down reactors. Those are dangers that exist right now, 223 00:16:28,610 --> 00:16:32,690 Speaker 1: the potential car crashes, the long term psychological wreckage. We 224 00:16:32,850 --> 00:16:35,970 Speaker 1: cling to the hope that these might not happen. However 225 00:16:36,010 --> 00:16:40,930 Speaker 1: irrational that hope might be. A few weeks into the 226 00:16:41,050 --> 00:16:45,890 Speaker 1: UK's COVID nineteen lockdown, emergency room doctors started to notice 227 00:16:45,930 --> 00:16:48,410 Speaker 1: that they were getting half as many calls as usual 228 00:16:48,730 --> 00:16:53,530 Speaker 1: about heart attacks and strokes. Perhaps for mysterious reasons. People 229 00:16:53,610 --> 00:16:57,690 Speaker 1: were having fewer heart attacks and strokes. That would be nice, 230 00:16:58,090 --> 00:17:01,810 Speaker 1: but it seems unlikely. More likely people were sitting at 231 00:17:01,850 --> 00:17:04,490 Speaker 1: home thinking I might get the virus. If I go 232 00:17:04,530 --> 00:17:08,170 Speaker 1: to hospital. It's not too bad yet, I'll see if 233 00:17:08,170 --> 00:17:12,570 Speaker 1: it passes. Chalk up some hidden deaths there. Referrals for 234 00:17:12,610 --> 00:17:17,170 Speaker 1: suspected cancer were also down by three quarters. Shall I 235 00:17:17,250 --> 00:17:21,490 Speaker 1: bother the doctors now? It's probably nothing. I'll wait. More 236 00:17:21,610 --> 00:17:25,170 Speaker 1: hidden depths in the pipeline. As healthcare workers were diverted, 237 00:17:25,410 --> 00:17:29,210 Speaker 1: children around the world missed out on vaccinations. More deaths 238 00:17:29,210 --> 00:17:36,770 Speaker 1: will result from that as well. It's not all bad news. 239 00:17:37,010 --> 00:17:40,330 Speaker 1: The cleaner air from economic shutdowns, for example, has likely 240 00:17:40,410 --> 00:17:43,930 Speaker 1: extended some lives. There are surely fewer road accidents during 241 00:17:43,930 --> 00:17:48,250 Speaker 1: widespread lockdowns, But it seems clear that our lockdowns will 242 00:17:48,290 --> 00:17:51,810 Speaker 1: result in a great deal of hidden harm. That harm 243 00:17:52,010 --> 00:17:55,770 Speaker 1: is predictable, indeed, it has been predicted, but somehow the 244 00:17:55,850 --> 00:17:59,650 Speaker 1: hidden impacts just don't feel real until they start to happen. 245 00:18:00,050 --> 00:18:05,130 Speaker 1: That's the identifiable victim effect. Of course, lockdowns were always 246 00:18:05,130 --> 00:18:08,410 Speaker 1: going to increase domestic violence, but when the news came 247 00:18:08,450 --> 00:18:12,050 Speaker 1: through about a surgeon calls to victim hotlines, it still 248 00:18:12,090 --> 00:18:16,570 Speaker 1: felt somehow shocking. In countries which went for looser lockdowns, 249 00:18:16,690 --> 00:18:20,130 Speaker 1: such hidden impacts loomed large in the reckoning. The man 250 00:18:20,170 --> 00:18:23,890 Speaker 1: behind Sweden's controversial choice to keep schools open, the country's 251 00:18:23,970 --> 00:18:27,730 Speaker 1: chief epidemiologist, and as Technel, explained that this was a 252 00:18:27,730 --> 00:18:32,130 Speaker 1: public health decision, not an economic one. For disadvantaged children, 253 00:18:32,450 --> 00:18:35,490 Speaker 1: schools might be the one good thing they have in life, 254 00:18:35,890 --> 00:18:38,490 Speaker 1: but it's hard to keep focused on the hidden problems 255 00:18:38,890 --> 00:18:42,450 Speaker 1: when the COVID death count is very visibly ticking upwards 256 00:18:42,570 --> 00:18:48,250 Speaker 1: right in front of you. The Fukushima disaster has one 257 00:18:48,490 --> 00:18:52,290 Speaker 1: last lesson to teach us. Hidden tolls on mental health 258 00:18:52,490 --> 00:18:56,370 Speaker 1: take time to play out. Fumio Okubo took his life 259 00:18:56,490 --> 00:18:59,690 Speaker 1: the day he heard he was to be evacuated Hamako 260 00:18:59,770 --> 00:19:03,850 Speaker 1: Watanabe a few months later, but others took longer to 261 00:19:03,890 --> 00:19:07,090 Speaker 1: slip into a despair from which no escape seemed possible. 262 00:19:07,610 --> 00:19:11,570 Speaker 1: The peak year for suicides wasn't twenty eleven. It wasn't 263 00:19:11,570 --> 00:19:15,930 Speaker 1: even twenty twelve. It was twenty thirteen, two years after 264 00:19:15,970 --> 00:19:20,730 Speaker 1: the disaster. The Japanese medical researcher, doctor Ochie explained why. 265 00:19:21,490 --> 00:19:26,130 Speaker 1: Initially everyone was really determined, but they got tired, and 266 00:19:26,250 --> 00:19:31,290 Speaker 1: that's when depression started to increase. As I record this, 267 00:19:31,650 --> 00:19:34,890 Speaker 1: the world still seems determined to cope with a coronavirus, 268 00:19:35,210 --> 00:19:38,850 Speaker 1: but our reserves of resolve will not be limitless. We'll 269 00:19:38,890 --> 00:19:43,090 Speaker 1: get tired too. In the end, the Japanese courts sided 270 00:19:43,090 --> 00:19:46,730 Speaker 1: with the widower, Mikio Watanabe. They told TEPCO to pay 271 00:19:46,810 --> 00:19:50,290 Speaker 1: him nearly half a million dollars. They saw that hidden 272 00:19:50,330 --> 00:19:53,810 Speaker 1: death's matter, that indirect victims are just as deserving of 273 00:19:53,850 --> 00:19:57,570 Speaker 1: our sympathy and support. We should remember that in the 274 00:19:57,650 --> 00:20:17,250 Speaker 1: years to come. To write this episode, we relied on 275 00:20:17,290 --> 00:20:21,130 Speaker 1: original reporting from the BBC, the Financial Times, and The 276 00:20:21,210 --> 00:20:24,330 Speaker 1: New Yorker. As always, a full list of our sources 277 00:20:24,530 --> 00:20:29,450 Speaker 1: is in the show notes on Tim Harford Dot com 278 00:20:29,450 --> 00:20:32,890 Speaker 1: Cautionary Tales is written and presented by me Tim Harford 279 00:20:33,050 --> 00:20:36,010 Speaker 1: with help from Andrew Wright. The show was produced by 280 00:20:36,090 --> 00:20:39,450 Speaker 1: Ryan Dilley with support from Pete Norton. The music, sound 281 00:20:39,490 --> 00:20:43,570 Speaker 1: design and mixing are the work of Pascal Wise. The 282 00:20:43,650 --> 00:20:47,770 Speaker 1: scripts were edited by Julia Barton. Special thanks to Mea LaBelle, 283 00:20:47,890 --> 00:20:53,490 Speaker 1: Carlie Miliori, Heather Fane, Maya Kanig, Jacob Weisberg, and Malcolm Gladwell. 284 00:20:53,930 --> 00:21:14,450 Speaker 1: Cautionary Tales is a Pushkin Industry's productions