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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're so big time we

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Speaker 1: can wear shorts to work.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm here in.

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Speaker 1: The Chris Westling podcast studio with my partner Patrick Claybonn.

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Speaker 2: Who. Yeah, he is big time enough.

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Speaker 1: He's one of the only two people Eric Roberts has

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Speaker 3: I'm shocked to hear that, yes, because honestly I'm not.

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Speaker 3: I don't see myself as big time now nor definitely

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Speaker 3: when I first came here for my interview, didn't wear

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Speaker 3: shorts on my interview, But in that first year coming

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Speaker 3: to work at three o'clock in the morning to do

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Speaker 4: I dressing up for the walls.

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Speaker 1: That's fair, But now you got people getting in your grill.

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Speaker 1: I think it was Dave Shott, who's in the news

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Speaker 1: talent there, Like I think I wore shorts once and

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Speaker 1: he yelled at me enough and he I've pretty yelled

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Speaker 3: It wasn't yelling. I think that first interaction with Greg

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Speaker 3: Rosenthal taught him a lesson. You don't come at Greg's

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Speaker 1: Well, it's a big show here, it's a pre super

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Speaker 1: Bowl week show, and I told you guys before the show,

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Speaker 1: it's just one of those days where you feel like

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Speaker 1: you're always playing playing catchups. I feel like I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: So I hope we deliver what's going to be a

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Speaker 1: really fun show and we're including you our listeners in

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Speaker 1: it because I asked on the old interwebs on Blue

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Speaker 1: Sky for some questions, and so we're going to have

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Speaker 1: a fun mail bag and then we're also going to

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Speaker 1: do our calls of the year, and we don't know

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Speaker 1: who's gonna win. Eric really took control of this process.

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Speaker 1: He's putting on his big boy pants and covering up

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Speaker 1: that those big leg tattoos, and I don't know what's.

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Speaker 5: I went back and clicked through every recap show of

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Speaker 5: the season.

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Speaker 2: My Wow.

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Speaker 5: Listen to at least the opening highlight for every game

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Speaker 5: of the year.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 3: So again, before you guys get mad and somebody thinks

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Speaker 3: that your team is being slighted. Listen to what Eric

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Speaker 3: just went through. He's already done the work to do

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Speaker 3: those calls every single week of the season. He went

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Speaker 3: back and listened to every single one of them. Your

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Speaker 3: team has not been slided, he grinded for this.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I had a list of like forty to start,

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Speaker 5: so we have to We can't. We can't be here

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Speaker 1: Okay, that means we will get to the questions that

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Speaker 1: you guys sent in again on Blue Sky after just

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Speaker 1: a quick couple items.

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Speaker 2: They just want to throw out there. This is a

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Speaker 1: We want to keep everyone abreast of what's happening around

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Speaker 1: the league, and these are just quick hitters. I noticed

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys they extended their personnel chief, Will McLay. Nice

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Speaker 2: Things make sense pickup, I kinda I like that.

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Speaker 1: Saw some quotes down at Mobile the Parallel Universe of

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Speaker 1: he said, we have no interest in trading Miles Garrett,

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Speaker 2: That's good.

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Speaker 3: You feel like there's no subject future here and it's

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I'm wrong. No, maybe I think that's good

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Speaker 3: It seems it seems obvious, and that's a good thing.

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Speaker 3: If people are going to do things that seem obviously

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Speaker 1: Yes, that was a problem. They need to go find

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about the Senior Bowl on our

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Speaker 1: laugh show of the week.

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Speaker 2: You'll hear that on Friday. I'm looking forward to that.

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Speaker 1: And the only other item of news is really the

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Speaker 1: is from Benoit's Smart Car. He asks, is the Saints'

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Speaker 1: job the worst one this year?

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Speaker 2: The worst one this decade? Funny phrasing. There.

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Speaker 1: The news of the day, because yes, the Saints haven't

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Speaker 1: hired their head coach yet, is that Kellen Moore did

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Speaker 1: now the favorite to get that job, and they might

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Speaker 1: the keys to Kellen Moore for the New Orleans Saints.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about that and this question?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think in terms of what's available right now,

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Speaker 3: and Kellen Moore is not the hot name that he

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Speaker 3: I've seen floated out there. I feel like Kellen Moore

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Speaker 1: Right, he never interviewed in the end, but it keeps

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Speaker 3: But ultimately, as far as the job, like the evaluating,

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Speaker 3: I really don't think it's that bad. If you think

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Speaker 4: I'm looking back.

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Speaker 3: If we're talking about worst jobs in the last decade,

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Speaker 3: Doug Peterson won a Super Bowl, he had all the cashit. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: After that, that Urban fiasco where I'm looking at it

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Speaker 2: Interesting?

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Speaker 1: And yes, I think with the way the Jaguars have

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Speaker 3: There was a couple of pre Demico coaching situations in Houston.

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Speaker 2: That was the first one that came to mind.

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Speaker 3: I don't think this compares to either one of those.

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Speaker 3: I know we can do the cap Malfeason's thing and

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Speaker 3: the team had an opportunity in the division this year,

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Speaker 3: right it was in I think we have a referential

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Speaker 3: on the twenty twenty four Saints. But this team was

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Speaker 3: as coming in with Dennis Allen as your head coach

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Speaker 3: again in twenty twenty four, where I don't necessarily think

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Speaker 1: I think it's one of the worst jobs of the decade.

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Speaker 1: those Houston teams were the first one that popped to mind.

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Speaker 2: Difficult situation last year.

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Speaker 1: Drake may arriving made that a little better, but at

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Speaker 1: The Panthers pre Canalis, I mean just it's been a

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Speaker 1: rough It's been a rough road. But this Saints job

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Speaker 1: I think is uniquely bad because of the Mickey Loomis situation.

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Speaker 1: It really seems like he is staying and I think

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Speaker 1: red flag to Gail Benson. Joe Brady was in that

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Speaker 1: He didn't want to go there, and I think Mickey

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Speaker 1: Loomis in New Orleans to me, is very similar to

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Speaker 2: You're You're right. There are worse teams out there. For sure.

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Speaker 1: It's not a tough division, but the quarterback situation is

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Speaker 1: is very tricky with what you're gonna do with Derek Carr.

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Speaker 1: Do you if you keep them another year, then it

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Speaker 1: salary cap is a problem. I think at some point,

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Speaker 1: as much as I think it's been a little overblown,

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Speaker 2: The bullet a little.

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Speaker 1: Bit and and start thinking about not just shooting for

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Speaker 1: seven or eight wins. So that's a tough situation. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if Kellen Moore is the guy to turn

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Speaker 1: it all around. I don't even know if they eat.

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Speaker 1: Like if you ask the average Eagles fan, like, they're

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Speaker 1: not super pumped on Kellen Moore. I mean, I know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, give it, give it a week and a half. Right,

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Speaker 1: this one is from Los G's Los G's, which it's

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Speaker 4: Here before it does it does feel familiar.

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Speaker 1: Halfway through the decade, which players are locks for the

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Speaker 1: All Decade team? I love this question? He said Mahomes

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Speaker 2: This is from the Red Shark.

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Speaker 1: It asks should the forty nine ers draft the quarterback

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Speaker 2: Can they win a Super Bowl if they pay pretty Yes?

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Speaker 4: I mean yes. Can they ruin a Super Bowl with

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Speaker 3: Can the can they construct the roster in the way

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Speaker 3: when you get a player that's good in show success

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Speaker 1: Bonthent right, they already could have won the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: He played more than well enough. I think throughout that

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Speaker 3: But I think right the way that we've seen these

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Speaker 3: Perty's earned payment in my opinion, And I know that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want it to drag out all offseason.

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Speaker 3: That we overrate winning this one game a couple weeks

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Speaker 3: But ultimately, in determining how good a team is and

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Speaker 2: Patrick, I'll take it.

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Speaker 1: What is that that Howie Roseman is doing that other

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Speaker 1: as anyone, which is funny, and then they watched the

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Speaker 1: price get so low that they realize like, oh, actually

441
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Speaker 1: this would be great.

442
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Speaker 3: Yeah, spectacular move that that literally everybody should have made.

443
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Speaker 3: Sequon parklation have him on everybody's radar. But it's also

444
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Speaker 3: hitting on these high variance things where I don't know

445
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,040
Speaker 3: draft circumstance. I think a conversation surrounding Jalen Carter made

446
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 3: it feel like that was a high variance thing, but

447
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:12,080
Speaker 3: it was known going in right that this was one

448
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Speaker 3: of the best players in the draft, if not the

449
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 3: best player in the draft, and he was going to

450
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Speaker 3: be there at eight. And so again I think that's

451
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Speaker 3: another situation where everybody else's evaluation, regardless of how you

452
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,880
Speaker 3: feel about the situation, that the ability of the player. Right,

453
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Speaker 3: if people had known that the player was going to

454
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Speaker 3: demonstrate this level of ability on the football field, he

455
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Speaker 3: wouldn't have been there for the Eagles to take right.

456
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Speaker 3: So there's a couple of aspects there, and it's also

457
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Speaker 3: getting out of things that aren't necessarily working because how

458
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Speaker 3: he has this, he has the success. He's not constantly

459
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Speaker 3: trying to save his job or keep his job, where

460
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Speaker 3: if there's a Hassan Reddic type situation, if there's a

461
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Speaker 3: Carson Wentz type situation, it just.

462
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Speaker 1: Not going to be on this team anymore next year.

463
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Speaker 1: They're just going to eat that as a mistake.

464
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Speaker 3: Like how he recognizes that sunk cost is a logical

465
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Speaker 3: fallacy and just go if you can make a move

466
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 3: it and he has the cachet to be able to

467
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Speaker 3: do that because he's not constantly worried about his job.

468
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that that's key that they have a defined setup. Now,

469
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Speaker 1: it's not always that comfortable for coaches. I don't think

470
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Speaker 1: the coaches there are empowered. I think they kind of

471
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Speaker 1: view the coaches as temporary employees. They're a little fungible

472
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Speaker 1: to them. And that's just the way they do it.

473
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Speaker 1: And but they have been consistent with that's Jeffrey Lurry

474
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Speaker 1: and their owner and Howie Roseman really run the team

475
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Speaker 1: in that manner and he trusts Howie to do so,

476
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Speaker 1: and it's consistent.

477
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Speaker 2: I think probably the number one number.

478
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Speaker 1: There's two things I think they do better than other

479
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Speaker 1: teams is that they sign their own guys who are

480
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Speaker 1: good early, like really early, like Jordan Mylatta. How many

481
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Speaker 1: contracts has Jordan Malatta had? Like they gave him a

482
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Speaker 1: second contract after he played like four games, They're like,

483
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Speaker 1: oh my god, what did we find and then they

484
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Speaker 1: gave him a third contract when it's just like, let's

485
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Speaker 1: get two years out in run of this. And if

486
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Speaker 1: you look throughout the roster, like do you remember the

487
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Speaker 1: AJ Brown Devanta Smith contracts that they got this offseason?

488
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Speaker 2: No, nobody does a J Brown.

489
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Speaker 1: No one even knew that he wanted a new contract

490
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Speaker 1: because he was still two years away from it, but

491
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Speaker 1: they wanted to make sure Devanta got his, and then

492
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Speaker 1: they knew that might have played a certain way to

493
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 1: the guy who's actually the best wide receiver on the roster,

494
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Speaker 1: and they extended him, and so then of course aj

495
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 1: Brown wants his numbers. But I think he's a happier

496
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:36,399
Speaker 1: productive Eagle when he's not getting his numbers because he

497
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 1: feels like he was taking care of fairly. And you

498
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 1: can go up and down this roster. Josh Sweat is

499
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 1: actually another great example, paid early and often not a

500
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Speaker 1: super I'm not saying they've done this perfectly with everyone,

501
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Speaker 1: but I do think they do that more than other teams.

502
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Speaker 3: And what that does is your window gets extended, right

503
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 3: because you're not having to worry about about these decisions

504
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Speaker 3: and all, so the price isn't going down like these.

505
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Speaker 1: Guys, right, they usually get ahead of it and they

506
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 1: look good. Lane Johnson, like when when was the Lane

507
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: Johnson contract? Like problems, it never happens. They're always two

508
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: years ahead of it. And actually it's it's almost unfortunate

509
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: for their players, Like it's not unfortunate because they're happy

510
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: to get that money early. But like Lane Johnson never

511
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 1: totally maxes out as like the best right tackle in

512
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Speaker 1: the league like you should moneyways, But anyways, that's a good.

513
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And we see the exact converse of that down

514
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Speaker 3: in Dallas, where it's like wait until the absolute last

515
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Speaker 3: minute and pay these players, which again I'm I'm grateful

516
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Speaker 3: if the player wants to take the risk and the

517
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Speaker 3: team wants to pay out a huge contract to Micah

518
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 3: or to Dak, yeah, I'm all for that. But if

519
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Speaker 3: you make somebody an offer that they would like to

520
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,679
Speaker 3: have two years early, then you have the opportunity.

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Speaker 4: You don't have to wait.

522
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Speaker 1: And they take swings like Makai Beckton was a swing

523
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Speaker 1: and Huff was a swing too, like they miss on

524
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Speaker 1: plenty of the swings. Johan Dotson a little bit of

525
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 1: a miss on a swing. I think they been better

526
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Speaker 1: in general when you're talking about what teams could do

527
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Speaker 1: to copy them.

528
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 2: They trade a lot.

529
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Speaker 1: I think trades are an underrated part to just try

530
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: to improve your team, and some have really not worked

531
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Speaker 1: for them. It's I don't know that their hit rate

532
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 1: is like that much higher than other teams, but they

533
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: have a philosophy they stick to it, and the philosophy

534
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Speaker 1: is we will never stop signing and drafting linemen on

535
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Speaker 1: both sides, and they never stop it no matter what

536
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Speaker 1: the year is.

537
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Speaker 2: They're always just throwing in.

538
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Speaker 1: And they've been so consistent with that over a ten

539
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Speaker 1: year period and it really has worked for them. Maybe

540
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Speaker 1: other teams can have a different philosophy, but like they

541
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Speaker 1: are really consistent with that. Let's go to our next one.

542
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Speaker 1: As we just shower the Eagles in love, now we're

543
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Speaker 1: going to go to one that I agreed with from

544
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Speaker 1: Kyle Bruno here saying, why doesn't anyone talk about the

545
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: Dolphins having a long suffering fan base, longest playoff wind drought?

546
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Speaker 1: No way, which is that? Surprised me that since two

547
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: thousand and they have the longest one in the entire NFL.

548
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Speaker 1: Did not know that, And I didn't know the Commanders

549
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 1: had such a long one before this year too, and

550
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 1: that was really long. The Raiders are the second most,

551
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 1: second longest by the way, No Jets are third. No

552
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl wins in seventy three, no AFC titles in

553
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Speaker 1: ninety two. The owner got the team doctor first round

554
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: pick for tampering. The QB is the face of concussions,

555
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 1: bad a lot of free agent signings. I don't know

556
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Speaker 1: why fans all want to be recognized as a team

557
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: that suffers the most pain, But you are right that

558
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: Dolphins kind of slide under the radar. The reason is

559
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: because it seems like it's fun to play in Miami

560
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Speaker 1: and because they're always like a they're very often a

561
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Speaker 1: seven to nine win team. But I would kind of

562
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Speaker 1: agree with Dolphins fans who identify with that particular sort

563
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Speaker 1: of pain because they're always just mediocre to average and

564
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Speaker 1: they never win a playoff game. That actually is a

565
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Speaker 1: pretty good measure of like who's going through it the most,

566
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Speaker 1: because a playoff win feels awesome, and it really in making.

567
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Speaker 2: The playoffs is great. But when you make the.

568
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Speaker 1: Playoffs and you just go one and out and it's

569
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Speaker 1: it's like Skyler Thompson or it's or it's Tua in

570
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 1: the cold not being competitive, it it kind of just

571
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 1: feels like you really didn't belong there and you don't

572
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: have that good one playoff win can feel great. And

573
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Speaker 1: so I'm with you. I think that the Dolphins are

574
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Speaker 1: sneaky up there.

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Speaker 3: I think one reason, right, because I think we've discussed

576
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 3: all of these things, not the particular playoff drought, right,

577
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 3: we saw that kind of shift with the Commander's run

578
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Speaker 3: this season, but ultimately in that division, as far as

579
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 3: bemoaned fan bases, people in New York are always going

580
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 3: to get more attention for like whatever they got going on,

581
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Speaker 3: and so I think that that is that's a particular

582
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 3: reason that it doesn't get discussed now, Like throwing Tua

583
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Speaker 3: having a brain in there is kind of unfair.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I wish I wouldn't read that out loud. I

585
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 2: was gonna kind of mentally say it that, but that's

586
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Speaker 2: my bad.

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Speaker 3: The The interesting thing is Tyreek Hill doesn't count as

588
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 3: a bust free agent signing to me. I think the

589
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 3: Tyreek signing was great.

590
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 2: Great, it was great. That's the most.

591
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, they did right with these trades, right because you

592
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 3: have to you have to make the pay to do

593
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 3: it feels like a free agency signing, uh there. Other

594
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 3: than that, it's tough to really think of like a

595
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 3: great free agency pickup that the Dolphins have had.

596
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Speaker 2: Well, they had that one year.

597
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: They gave Mike Wallace and a couple other guys and

598
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Speaker 1: they were like the off season winners they've done that

599
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Speaker 1: quite a.

600
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Speaker 3: Bit, one that is not necessarily sneaky bad. But people

601
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 3: forget that they they drafted Menca, they had Minca in.

602
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 4: There, Mica.

603
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 3: It is like a franchise stalwart in Pittsburgh where if

604
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 3: things go right at the end of his career could

605
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 3: be spectacular and they'll remember him as like a lifelong stealer.

606
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Speaker 4: But this was a guy that you shipped out.

607
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 3: So yes, we should appreciate Finn's fan misery, and I

608
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 3: don't we talk about them as much as the other one.

609
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Speaker 1: More than anything, I think they're in an underrated fan base.

610
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Speaker 1: I hope to see our friend Henry Hodson, the most

611
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: famous of all offense fans. They're very knowledgeable, very passionate,

612
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: and they've been going through it. Let's go to our

613
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: next one. Zach Joseph asked, all the final four teams

614
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Speaker 1: are top ten and running. Do you think it's going

615
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Speaker 1: to be a trend of great offenses emphasizing the run

616
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Speaker 1: and how defenses will just I.

617
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Speaker 2: Think we've beuld going this way for a while.

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Speaker 1: That's top ten and running depends what the metric is

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Speaker 1: you're looking at, because you know, winning teams run more

620
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Speaker 1: because they're ahead but I do think some of the

621
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Speaker 1: trends we talked about going into the year, more two

622
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Speaker 1: tight end looks, teams going heavier, they really have happened.

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Speaker 1: And you're seeing the best running backs now. We're seeing

624
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Speaker 1: kind of like the early Oughts when they were dominating fantasy.

625
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: We had about five or six of those monster running

626
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: back seasons this year. There is something to it, and

627
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Speaker 1: I think you're seeing more creativity in the in the

628
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Speaker 1: running game. Like teams now don't just like run one thing,

629
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Speaker 1: they run seven things, and they run a couple of

630
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Speaker 1: them run it in insanely different ways. And now the

631
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Speaker 1: run game is almost like how the pass game, how

632
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Speaker 1: that evolution happened, where it's just you got to get

633
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Speaker 1: yourself a cool run game coordinator, like like Matt Lafleur.

634
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's all cyclical, right.

635
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

636
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Speaker 3: I don't think we're ever going to be done with

637
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 3: a fundamental aspect of football. Kind Of like that discussion

638
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 3: kind of seemed a little a little short sighted to

639
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Speaker 3: me a few years ago, where it's like, yeah.

640
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Speaker 4: Why why run the ball at all?

641
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Speaker 3: It made me it made me think back to like

642
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 3: those early days watching football as a kid where it's like,

643
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 3: why don't they just run into people's backs three times?

644
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 3: You know, it seemed overly simplified, and so yeah, I'm

645
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 3: glad that, you know, because every coach comes in and

646
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 3: gets hired. Yeah, we want to be multiple, we want

647
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 3: to attack, and we say all these things. But yeah,

648
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 3: it's a fundamental aspect of the game. It's all going

649
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 3: to be cyclical. We're going to see trends change over

650
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 3: the course of years, and you're going to want to

651
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Speaker 3: put If you have a guy that you're going to

652
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Speaker 3: give the ball twenty to twenty five times a game,

653
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Speaker 3: you're going to want them to be good.

654
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Speaker 4: And these teams have good players at that spot.

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Speaker 1: And I think there will be some teams that lean

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Speaker 1: into it even more. In terms of size, I think

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Speaker 1: it's notable that Phil Case are two of the bigger

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Speaker 1: teams out there. I know it's a little random that,

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Speaker 1: like these are the two teams that made the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: I mean, made the Super Bowl. But Phil Alvey is

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Speaker 1: a large team. Kansas City's a pretty big team actually

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Speaker 1: as well. Detroit's a large team. There are physically, you

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Speaker 1: do see some mismatch of just drafting size, and so

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Speaker 1: that might become a thing again. Our next question is

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Speaker 1: from one of my favorite longtime listeners, Eric in Utah.

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Speaker 1: Eric Utah, I guess we're calling him. He's got his

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Speaker 1: own podcast, by the way, the End Zone podcast.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to Eric eighteen. That's how we know him.

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Speaker 1: On Blue Sky, he said, did Dan Campbell kill it

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Speaker 1: with Zoc Higher a Peyton disciple paired with the intermediate

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Speaker 1: receiving Kings of Sun God and Tim Patrick paired with

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Speaker 1: an elite game? Well, that just sounds to me like

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Speaker 1: the Lions are are elite paired with JMO taking the

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Speaker 1: top off. John Morton was a really surprising higher. I

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Speaker 1: was like, why is that name familiar? John Morton because

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Speaker 1: he's not an up and comer. He was an offensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator for one season in the NFL. It was with

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Speaker 1: the twenty seventeen Todd Bowles Jets, led by Josh McCown,

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Speaker 1: Robbie Chosen Anderson at the time, and Austin Seferian Jenkins,

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Speaker 1: so there not much was going on with that team,

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Speaker 1: although McCown played sneaky good.

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Speaker 4: That was the best mccownce.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And you can't really blame more in there for

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Speaker 1: getting swept out like all of Todd Bowles's offensive coordinators

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Speaker 1: back then.

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Speaker 2: He lasted exactly one year.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that was all Todd's choice or not,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know if it's sneaky great. It was

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Speaker 1: very surprising because I think people thought they would be

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Speaker 1: doing this new cutting age guy on their own team

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Speaker 1: and they dip into somebody he's familiar with. But at

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Speaker 1: this point, Dan Campbell has completely earned my trust in

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Speaker 1: terms of his coaching tree and who he chooses. And

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Speaker 1: he also chose Kelvin Shephard, a former Bills player who

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Speaker 1: was once traded one for one for Jerry Hughes and

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Speaker 1: was always in my mind as one of the worst

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Speaker 1: trade of that decade because Jerry Hughes was incredible for

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Speaker 1: the Bills. But Calvin Sheppard, now a defensive coordinator, I

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Speaker 1: bet he'll be great too. So I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you have any thoughts on John Morton and the Lions.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think right, because you get the Peyton tree, right,

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Speaker 3: which is Dan Campbell is a part of there's familiarity there.

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of the things we associate with

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Speaker 3: Ben Johnson were the things that we could see right,

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Speaker 3: because that's how our bias impacts, and we see a

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Speaker 3: team that's very aggressive. Dan Camill's gonna remain aggressive. I

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Speaker 3: think the particular skill sets of the players lend to

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Speaker 3: those trick plays, right, Like I think I'm on Ross

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Speaker 3: Saint Brown is such a skilled receiver and Jared Goff

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Speaker 3: is such an accurate passer that it leads to those

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Speaker 3: hooking ladder opportunities to make those hooking ladder plays where

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Speaker 3: I feel like the Lions are still going to run

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Speaker 3: trick plays. I think that's still going to be an

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Speaker 3: integral part of the process. And Bears fans may be

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Speaker 3: disappointed when they's like, Ah, where's the razzle dazzle, because

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Speaker 3: it's the guys I think. I think that make you

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Speaker 3: able to do that, and so there may be a

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Speaker 3: fall off. But I still think the lines are going

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Speaker 3: to store plenty of points because they got the guys

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Speaker 3: that can score plenty of points.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I do think they need to start adding

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Speaker 1: to that offensive line again, getting a little older, not

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Speaker 1: quite as good on the interior either. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: go speed round through a couple more of these. You

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Speaker 1: could throw it up or not, Eric, but we'll just

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Speaker 1: go through quickly. See him, Bailey asks what the home

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Speaker 1: run swing at QB you'd like to see the Steelers make.

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Speaker 1: There's really no home run swings out there other than Matthew.

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Speaker 2: Stafford, so that would be my yeah for the fence.

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Speaker 6: That's it.

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Speaker 1: We got one from N seven Thunder who asked should

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Speaker 1: they Texans give Stefan Diggs a new contract or let

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Speaker 1: them walk? I think it makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 1: They know him, he knows them. It's difficult for Digs

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Speaker 1: that this is his free agent year coming off of

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Speaker 1: an injury. I think it's best in those situations, it's

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Speaker 1: good to maybe stay where you know.

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Speaker 3: If they do not go that way, I have some

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Speaker 3: value options that oh, okay, great, we'll see j Shroud.

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Speaker 3: Darius Slayton is incredibly underrated. He's been imprisoned in New

741
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Speaker 3: York in the same way that Saquon Barkley has. I

742
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Speaker 3: think Nick Westbrook could Keane would be a nice value

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Speaker 3: signing in the division. Dimmie Brown is coming up on

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Speaker 3: free agents. I don't know if the Commanders are going

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Speaker 3: to let him go, and sneakily m VS, also set

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Speaker 3: to be a free agent, also made a nice run

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Speaker 3: towards the end.

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Speaker 2: You can bring Deontay Johnson.

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Speaker 4: Back, Well, we got.

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Speaker 2: One asking wanting some fantasy takes.

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Speaker 1: Who's a hot Dynasty trade based on coaching coordinator movement?

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Speaker 2: I think the Bears, you know, Caleb and Rome a

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Speaker 2: good time to buy Drake May, c J. Stroud, by Low,

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Speaker 2: Drake London.

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Speaker 1: Like whatever whatever price Bajon is, he would be my

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Speaker 1: number one overall.

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Speaker 2: Like Dynasty.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but nobody's letting go of Jon or Tremiir Gibbs

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Speaker 3: right now. If you want to, if you want to

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Speaker 3: vite vibe, check your league, see what the the Bryce

761
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Speaker 3: Young value is at that people may be holding in

762
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Speaker 3: that situation. It all just depends on who's on your

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Speaker 3: roster and who you're able to get. But I'm with

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Speaker 3: Greg buy Low on CJ all.

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Speaker 1: Day and our friend Jackson Bevans, who does the Cigar

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Speaker 1: Thoughts podcast but also writes a great column Cigar Thoughts

767
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Speaker 1: to ask about Kubiak in Seattle and whether last year

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Speaker 1: New Orleans was on the injuries.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Kubiak's actually had a lot of chance. He's actually has

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Speaker 1: looked pretty solid throughout, like he seems like he's not

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Speaker 1: gonna hurt you.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: About Gino Smith in a system like I want Gino

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Speaker 1: to be able to make a lot of decisions, and

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Speaker 1: usually that's a system where you're just kind of, you know,

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Speaker 1: doing ABC. But I hope they can marry the system

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Speaker 1: to make Gino like as Geno as possible.

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Speaker 3: Well, if anybody can take an ABC system and add

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Speaker 3: a D, there we go and an E, it's Eugene

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Speaker 3: Cyril Smith.

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Speaker 4: I do.

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Speaker 3: Because again, the Saints had the most unique offensive line

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Speaker 3: combinations this season. Ten different offensive lineman had fifty or

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Speaker 3: more snaps. So it wasn't just the injuries to those

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Speaker 3: skill guys, because you know the are garfriend had mentioned

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Speaker 3: the skill guys, Jackson, Yeah, it's there was a lot

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Speaker 3: that went in New Orleans, including having the head coach

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Speaker 3: that did at the start of the season.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The fact that they were all kind of in sync

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Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year when they were healthy

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Speaker 1: was a pretty good, pretty good sign. So I'm excited

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Speaker 1: for that. Let's take a quick break. We're going to

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Speaker 1: do the calls of the year right after.

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Speaker 2: This back on NFL Daily. It's all been leading to this.

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Speaker 1: One man put together the most thorough and researched and

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Speaker 1: excellent candidates for Calls of the year it's ever been,

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Speaker 1: and two men are going to sit here in the

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling Podcast and decide what is the call of

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Speaker 1: the Year.

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Speaker 2: I think that's the format.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll do it. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's a reason to muddy this up.

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Speaker 4: Guys.

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Speaker 5: Okay, just listen, have some fun, look back, think about Hey,

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Speaker 5: remember when the coldest off very much?

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Speaker 1: Remember when this is. This is as I said on

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Speaker 1: the show with Mina and Colleen and Jordan when we

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Speaker 1: were talking about the tiny table results, we were talking

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Speaker 1: about the over unders. I feel like this is kind

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Speaker 1: of closed the Circle week, like all the things we

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Speaker 1: threw out there at the beginning of the year. We

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Speaker 1: also have our All Pro team coming up. We closed

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Speaker 1: the circle here. We we finished this season before moving

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Speaker 1: on to the off season. We're gonna group this in

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Speaker 1: different categories. In the first category is just like that

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Speaker 1: was fun, remember that, Like, this is a fun category

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Speaker 1: of plays.

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Speaker 2: Let's go back to Week one to start.

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Speaker 3: Five and a half minutes to go, first quarter A

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Speaker 3: Naples trails three to nothing, but they've got it now.

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Speaker 2: A first in ten on the round forty Richardson on

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Speaker 2: play action backs to throw.

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Speaker 3: He slips on the turf, so peech a downfield looking

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Speaker 3: for Aleck Pierce.

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Speaker 2: He's done.

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Speaker 8: My bomb sixty yards Anthony Richardson to Alck Pierce.

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Speaker 4: That's what you're.

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Speaker 9: Talking about in the deep game touchdown.

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Speaker 2: D Why Oh, I love it, Matt Taylor on w

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Speaker 2: f N. I Rick fan Terry there in the booth.

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Speaker 1: Remember when I was trying to do Throw of the

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Speaker 1: Year and then I just sort of forgot about it

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Speaker 1: halfway through.

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Speaker 2: It's because that was the first one and I knew nothing,

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Speaker 2: know On was gonna beat it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, every throw, every deep throw. I think bo Nicks

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Speaker 3: had the one late in the season.

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Speaker 2: I was pretty sweet.

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Speaker 4: That was.

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Speaker 3: But in terms of the total play, I think the

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Speaker 3: call was was as good as good as the throw.

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Speaker 3: Oh just the exclamation point of after Pierce catches the

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Speaker 3: ball and goes in the end zone a bomb.

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Speaker 4: I think that was great, great execution. I love the play,

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Speaker 4: love the call, I.

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Speaker 1: Love that analysis by you. And this is a real,

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Speaker 1: a real pro with the pipes here Patrick. That throw

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Speaker 1: one of the best throws of all time. It's not

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Speaker 1: a it's not even a joke. It really is better

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Speaker 1: than PJ.

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Speaker 2: Walker. PJ. Walkers is up there.

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Speaker 1: You're talking about those are two of those are two

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Speaker 1: of the best throws of all time. It's it's okay, guys,

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Speaker 1: like it doesn't have to win a Super Bowl to

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Speaker 1: be one of the best throws of all time.

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Speaker 2: It really was. Uh, that's a strong candidate.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead and say like, that's

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Speaker 1: in the that's in the small circle of real contenders,

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Speaker 1: although I'll probably say that after every single one because

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Speaker 1: I'll get excited at new Let's go to week eleven

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Speaker 1: and let's go to Nashville.

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Speaker 7: Let us in the shotgun six men said to rush.

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Speaker 7: Let us Remy Senzo firing deep down field for Westbrook

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Speaker 7: at Key's got it forty forty thirty twenty.

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Speaker 9: Ten fun inZone.

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Speaker 10: Touch shot tightens the longest touchdot pass of the year

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Speaker 10: in the National Football League just went ninety eight years.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Mike Keith the Best wg f X sad news

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Speaker 1: that Mike Keith is moving on to Tennessee the Volunteers

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Speaker 1: away from the.

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Speaker 3: Titans, and so that means this may be our last

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Speaker 3: chance to hear Mike Keith on this particular podcast.

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Speaker 4: And that is sad, but it's it was a.

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Speaker 3: Bad play by the Viking Stephens in an absolutely hopeless

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Speaker 3: game where the Titans have done nothing. It was sixteen

878
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,439
Speaker 3: to three at that point, and just bad coverage leads

879
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 3: to that ninety eight yard n WI touchdown. So the play,

880
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 3: the call better than the play.

881
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: I mean the call, it's the yards, it's it's just

882
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: Mike Keith's voice and the way he rolls that yards.

883
00:41:56,120 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 1: That's another strong contender. Inner Circle. Let's go to week thirteen.

884
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: I know it was tough probably for Eric to pick

885
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,479
Speaker 1: only one Bill's played, not that you had to limit

886
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: it to one per team, But I'm looking at the

887
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: sheet and I see that's kind of what you did.

888
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 2: This is this is the Bill's snow lateral Josh Allen

889
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 2: Week thirteen, first wee.

890
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 8: Goal from the seven, Alan under center takes a snab

891
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 8: quick hitter thrown.

892
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 2: Behind but somehow caught and now lateral to Alan entreating.

893
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 9: For the pylon.

894
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 11: Are you kidding me?

895
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 4: It's a touchdown?

896
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 10: Unbelievable on catch by Amari Cooper, a lateral to Josh

897
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 10: Allen and he rubs the remaining five yards for the score.

898
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen that one before? A great job

899
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 2: by Chris Brown on wg R. What did he say there?

900
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 2: Can you believe like a good a well time? Can

901
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 2: you believe it?

902
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 4: Yeah?

903
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 2: Always hits.

904
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 3: And also it contextualize the fact because looking back, if

905
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 3: we remember the Lamari pitch the ball to Josh, when

906
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 3: you hear the call, you remember Amara had almost no

907
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 3: business catching that ball. Yes, in the first place, it

908
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 3: was thrown a full yard behind him on the slant

909
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,240
Speaker 3: and he reaches back and catches it with one hand.

910
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 3: And then Josh's you know, call him for an insane

911
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 3: play to be made, because that's Josh and that's why

912
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 3: we love him. And and yeah, the call fits.

913
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 5: That great memories also probably the seed for all his

914
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 5: little lateral thoughts and plays coming down the home stretch.

915
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 2: See the Amari Cooper trade was worth it. I remember

916
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 2: that one time. It worked. Sorry, no one got my

917
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 2: little little job there. It was no it was mean.

918
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 4: It wasn't mean mean. It worked out.

919
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 2: It worked out.

920
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: Just just forgiving us that memory memory. I hope you

921
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: remember the good times of that Bill's season. There were

922
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: there was some few dudes.

923
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 2: I had a fun time. There was fun ones.

924
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: Let's go to week four, Uh, it's Ben Johnson, it's

925
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: Jared Goff.

926
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 2: It's a trick play.

927
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 12: Second and goal for the Lions from the seventh golf

928
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 12: out of the gun.

929
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 2: Montgomery was right, Jared leans in, there's the snap.

930
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 4: Jared on the end a round gets it to Law.

931
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 2: He's gonna throw it to Jared.

932
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 4: Jared maybe on.

933
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 13: The receiving end of a pass from Robin Rock Take Brown, Oh,

934
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 13: Bet Jonson, I see you too.

935
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 4: That is beautiful stuff.

936
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 2: That is Sunday Night match. Yeah, I love it.

937
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: Dan Miller, last year's winner of the Call of the

938
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: Year w x Y T Lomas Brown. Dan Miller, I

939
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: feel like has been as much a part of the

940
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: Sunday Night recaps as anyone.

941
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, because the team scores on stop points and it's

942
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 3: hard to pick even the hard to pick a trick play,

943
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 3: but that one in a score fest where you get

944
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 3: the energy of the game. In the historical matchup between

945
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 3: these Seahawks and Lions teams we've had these past few years.

946
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 5: There was a couple of boots where it was hard

947
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 5: to like whittle it down to one. I mean, we'll

948
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 5: have a little section later, but like some of these

949
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 5: booths are just great at what they do.

950
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 2: They absolutely are.

951
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 1: One of those boosts is Paul Allen and Kfa n

952
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: in soda. I'm curious which which one you picked here?

953
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: This is This is from week sixteen, first and ten from.

954
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 14: The thirty nine three Kicky to go four to fourth ward,

955
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:11,959
Speaker 14: Sam steps.

956
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 10: Up, Sam Broz, Jefferson Town.

957
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 14: On the fan, find some moneymaker justin Jefferson.

958
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,919
Speaker 2: Oh that's a great option right there.

959
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: And I see what you did here, Eric, You're kind

960
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: of picking some great play plays that live up to

961
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 1: the calls. And I like that because we're we're going

962
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: down memory lane and remembering some of the best moments

963
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 1: of this entire season. I would say that that was

964
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,919
Speaker 1: the peak of the Vikings season, but no, the next

965
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: week they put it on the Packers right and they

966
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: went up even another level. But that was pretty exciting

967
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: back and forth. That was the comeback with in Seattle.

968
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: They were actually down for at that moment, and I.

969
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 3: Think it would stand some people to because we can

970
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 3: all remember how it fell apart at the end. But

971
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 3: Sam Darnold time and time again when they were placed

972
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 3: to be made late in games or for a stretch

973
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 3: there this season, he was making them like we can't

974
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 3: take those away, all right.

975
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: Our next category of plays are from gentlemen who were

976
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: on the program this year, and in no way do

977
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: they get any favoritism. They're on the program because they

978
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: do the damn thing facts in the first place.

979
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 2: Week one, Matt Money Smith to throw man has.

980
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 14: Him on the cross or it's McCaughey shuffle, shuffle, lever down,

981
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 14: Oh Lad, ten yards toss. He broke two sets of

982
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 14: ankles on that touchdown. Grab What a play for the rookie.

983
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 15: He hit the brakes, watch the plane fly right by,

984
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 15: and then another plane.

985
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 2: Flew by and he skipped into the end zone.

986
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: To Paul of Maverick, Oh dang, that's another strong one.

987
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: I mean we got we got some real options here,

988
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 1: because that's a call you can't plan. I mean, that

989
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: is all off the dome. It's the partnership between Money

990
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: and DJ. I have to admit they have.

991
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 4: They have good chemistry and it led to the creation.

992
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 3: We saw Lad literally flying a plane in celebration later

993
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 3: on in the season. Like that moment, just a moment

994
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 3: where Bunny and and DJ are looking up at planes

995
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 3: coming down landing at Lax. We have the shuffle in

996
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 3: there because they're playing against the Raiders, right, so so

997
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 3: money makes the shuffle call there.

998
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: It's just, of course, that's pretty perfect. That's going to

999
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: be tough to be. Let's go to week eate our

1000
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: friend Andrew Ciciliano. This was in the aftermath of a

1001
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: of a tough loss for them. Tim Donovan, the longtime

1002
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: Browns play by play guy.

1003
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 11: If you're the Cleveland Browns, one play to get a

1004
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 11: juge emotional wish you.

1005
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 4: Got it to think.

1006
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 16: Twenty four yards.

1007
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 2: Let's go three seconds.

1008
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,720
Speaker 16: This is it for the wind makes some noise.

1009
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 17: We're average.

1010
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 2: You can hear the sounds about our voice right now.

1011
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 4: Twenty four yard.

1012
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 15: Line shun gun rounds up twenty nine, twenty four. Lamar

1013
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 15: Jackson has the football grounds rushing for Lamar flushed out,

1014
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 15: Lamar chase by zcenarios.

1015
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 2: Lamark Jackson are points scenarios.

1016
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 15: He's gotta throwing, directing traffic, pump fake now throwing end

1017
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 15: zone god quarter o.

1018
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 2: Good cook. The Crowns win.

1019
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 9: Twenty nine, twenty four.

1020
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:55,439
Speaker 13: You just do it, you do it, you felt it.

1021
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 13: So many things happening this game, they're unexplainable. Let it

1022
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 13: all ended up to a brown win. Miss once for

1023
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 13: you teknam.

1024
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:08,280
Speaker 1: M getting a little misty here in the studio. Awesome

1025
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: job by Andrew and Nathan Sigurra, and a reminder of

1026
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: something I try to keep in mind and voice on

1027
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: this show, which is that, like one game can be

1028
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,760
Speaker 1: pretty special. I know this was a miserable brown season,

1029
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 1: and yet I don't think that takes away from anything

1030
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: of the emotion of that win that was in that

1031
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 1: booth and the connection they had with Jim Donovan in

1032
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: the city and what an exciting just day of football

1033
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: that was against the team they hate the most in

1034
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: the world.

1035
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 2: Too.

1036
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 1: It helps a little extra beating the Ravens that they

1037
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: What a great call by Andrew and Nathan Zigurra, and.

1038
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 3: Not just culminating the cultural context of the week and

1039
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 3: the loss of Jim right, but the fact that the

1040
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 3: game had built up to that point.

1041
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, Andrew highlighting so many.

1042
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 3: Things that took place that didn't necessarily make any sense

1043
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 3: on a bad Browns team against the Ravens team that

1044
00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 3: will ultimately contend in the playoffs, where yeah, sometimes all

1045
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 3: that stuff doesn't matter and on a Sunday magic can happen.

1046
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 4: I should appreciate.

1047
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was that was awesome. Let's go to a

1048
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 1: guy who's who's on the mount rushmore of cause of

1049
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 1: the year. I think he was a runner up last year.

1050
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 1: Why are we even making runners up? Let's go Tyler

1051
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: Higbee week sixteen. His return to tight end.

1052
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 16: Set with the strength to the ride of Matthew Stafford,

1053
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 16: who's under center from that right side hookah in motion

1054
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 16: play fake roll right, Stafford's pros caught Bye Higbee at

1055
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 16: the ten, big Rig Higgs to the goal line.

1056
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 9: Touchdown, Tyler Higbee, welcome back, big Rig Pig touchdown.

1057
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 14: LA.

1058
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 2: I love it. JB.

1059
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: Long, of course I forgot to say his name leading

1060
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: into There were so many fun JB. Long calls throughout

1061
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: the season on ksp N.

1062
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 3: Yeah you feel the excitement. Of course we got another.

1063
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 3: We got some other plays coming up against the chest.

1064
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 3: But yeah, to see to have a player come back

1065
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 3: and to hear that in JB's voice and have him

1066
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 3: get in the end zone, it's it comes through, It

1067
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 3: comes through.

1068
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 4: Good job too.

1069
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 1: I was wrong saying that everyone only got one bite

1070
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: at the apple this year, because our next section is

1071
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: defense matters too. Only a couple of defensive plays in

1072
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: this show, and one of them was by our guy.

1073
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 2: Andrew Van Ginkel back in week one, and.

1074
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 11: Here comes Daniel Jones twelve to twenty two for one

1075
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 11: hundred and eleven yards victually twenty one to six. Jones

1076
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 11: touchdowns go fourth touchdown in and Grew ben Ginkle's career,

1077
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 11: and he read Daniel Jones like a book in that

1078
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,240
Speaker 11: book had a happy ending.

1079
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 2: That's a strong one.

1080
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: Both of Paul's entries this year were absolutely fantastic.

1081
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 3: That's my favorite of the two at the very least

1082
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 3: if we're doing a Paul Allen Brackett because to get

1083
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 3: to that stat with the quickness of Andrew Van Ginkles's

1084
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 3: career returns for a touchdown right there, to add the

1085
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 3: reading like a book, it.

1086
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 4: Was just a great call. That was.

1087
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:17,399
Speaker 2: Let's go to another pick six. This was a thick

1088
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 2: pick and this is k I r O Steve Rabel.

1089
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 4: Third down and seven from the Seattle nine. Glitch is

1090
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 4: coming throw.

1091
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 2: Inside hits pick off. Leo Williams coming near side.

1092
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,720
Speaker 8: He's running like a racehorse on midfield, turns up field

1093
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 8: that blockers, Holy smokes, are you kidding?

1094
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 4: Leo Williams.

1095
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 8: He's gonna take it in for a touchdown. Seahawks. The

1096
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 8: Seahawks mess up a kick return. They dump it on

1097
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 8: the defense and Leo Williams says, I got you covered,

1098
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,720
Speaker 8: picks it off as he drops back into coverage, comes

1099
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 8: up the near sidelines in front of the bench, picks

1100
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 8: up blockers, and takes it all the way in for

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00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 8: a touchdown.

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00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? Great job there. They were going

1103
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 2: in to go up twenty eight to seven the Jets

1104
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 2: in that game that Leo Williams play turn the game

1105
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 2: around to a big play in that game, And I

1106
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 2: love how the voice cracked.

1107
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, the legitimate excitement, and that's what we want. Don't

1108
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 4: fake it.

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00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 1: Let's go to the Wolfly Brothers. I mean, I didn't

1110
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: even realize until this year that they were brothers. I

1111
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: guess I should have known. Uh, Craig and Ron. Ron's

1112
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. Let's start there. Both these calls, by the way,

1113
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 1: are from week ten. Let's just play him back to

1114
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: back the wolf on wolf.

1115
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 16: Say, break the huddle. Mike Williams comes to the left,

1116
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 16: three receivers split to the right, Warnt to the left

1117
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 16: of Wilson in the shotgun. Wilson settles back, raises the

1118
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 16: foot gets the snap back to pass looking could have

1119
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,320
Speaker 16: floated up left for Williams and why.

1120
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 2: In the end zone? Want to throw? Want to catch?

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00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 8: Mike Williams did his first game in a Steelers uniform,

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00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 8: has holed in a thirty two yard touchdown strike from

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00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 8: Russell Wilson.

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00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 17: Oh, he threw that ball wan Dang doodle down the sidelines.

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00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 17: I don't think I've ever seen anything like this. First target,

1126
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,760
Speaker 17: first catch could be a game winner. Carrier unbelievable.

1127
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 16: Snapped to Murray, drop straight back, a fade right corner,

1128
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 16: the ends on Harrison.

1129
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 2: Cole on a catch with one hand for a touchdown.

1130
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 2: Harvin Harrison Junior holds it in with his right arm.

1131
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 8: Just a gorgeous drop in the bucket by Murray.

1132
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 6: Spin the pig Kyler, spinens drop in sud dimes the

1133
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 6: drops into the buckets right over the shoulder.

1134
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison Junior.

1135
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 2: Spin that peg Kyler. I can't it hurts. I think

1136
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 2: there was a haiku in there that was amazing.

1137
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: That's Ron Wolflee, by the way, and we should mention

1138
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 1: their play by play, guys.

1139
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 2: Ron is the one in Arizona. I misspoke.

1140
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 1: Dave pash is the play by play k MVP and

1141
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,240
Speaker 1: yes in Pittsburgh it's Rob King who's the play by playgate,

1142
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 1: and then Ron Craig Wolfley rather jumps in for the

1143
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: Wang Dang do it all just wouldn't be the same

1144
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 1: on Sundays without the Wolfly brus And finally, it's a

1145
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: couple plays that we've played on this show a couple

1146
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: times because we just had on our guest Bram Weinstein

1147
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: last week, and yet we've talked about a lot in

1148
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 1: this show. I think the Commanders were kind of the

1149
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: team this year. I don't know they were, just they

1150
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: were just part of so many of the best moments

1151
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: of the season. Let's listen to Bram and London Fletcher

1152
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: in the divisional round.

1153
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 12: Snapped the golf steps off good pocket through a little

1154
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 12: bit Jeremy Chiz.

1155
00:55:54,400 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 2: Got it, gets it celebrate like going to the NFF

1156
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 2: Championship game.

1157
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 4: This is the Motown, the home of Motown. To tonight

1158
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 4: they'll be playing the pool Baby. I think I'm could

1159
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 4: hear them tap it up in the there's a call.

1160
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:19,760
Speaker 5: I think it might have been the Monday Night winner

1161
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:23,240
Speaker 5: against the Bengals, where I think Bram mentions that London

1162
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 5: Fletcher punched him. Like he says, I just got punched

1163
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 5: in the booth and like I said, that's another booth

1164
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 5: where I had like seven Yeah, I love the trash

1165
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 5: talk too.

1166
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: Immediately by London Fledger, that's an ex player thing that

1167
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 1: he like that he's immediately sticking in the lion's face

1168
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 1: a little bit. Bram does such a good job covering

1169
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: the team and making you just enthusiastic by listening to

1170
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 1: him that after talking to him, I flipped my pick

1171
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: to the commanders last week and now I'm mad at

1172
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 1: Bram about that. So to feel better, let's listen to Yeah,

1173
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 1: we gotta listen to the Hail Mary before we get

1174
00:56:59,200 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: out of here.

1175
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 4: There's an eight deep form with the goal line. They

1176
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 4: bring three. Davie's backing up.

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00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,800
Speaker 12: He's just gonna have the one fly goes to the

1178
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:13,280
Speaker 12: right side, steps away, well, defenders gives themselves some time

1179
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 12: now steps up, fires heads towards the end zone.

1180
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 6: It is.

1181
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 2: Now, that's it.

1182
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 3: That's why we do this, to to have that moment

1183
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 3: culminate where you can hear the booth absolutely losing it.

1184
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 3: I think that's what great about all of Bram's calls

1185
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 3: is the way he accelerates into the touchdown Washington and

1186
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 3: you can feel it, and fans will always remember this

1187
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four season. They ultimately didn't get the ending

1188
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 3: result that they started to believe, but right there in

1189
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 3: those moments is why you believe. It's why we do

1190
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 3: all those things, and that's that one's tough to beat.

1191
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 2: Greg it is, and yet I don't I don't like.

1192
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 2: I don't like having to choose one.

1193
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: Maybe in future years, like we'll have a bracket or something,

1194
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: but it just feels like a slight to say anything

1195
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: is beating that moment with Andrew Ciciliano and Nathan Zigura

1196
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: that that was incredible, The Maconkey one by Money and

1197
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 1: DJ like, I loved it, The Higbee one coming out

1198
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 1: like the Paul Allen van Ginkel, the Hail Mary is

1199
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 1: gonna stick with me. The Richardson throw I think you

1200
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 1: were really well said on that the play call was

1201
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: as good as the throw, and so I hope no

1202
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 1: one gets mad here, Okay, but I'm gonna give it

1203
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 1: to Mike Keith and his Week eleven call. And it's

1204
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 1: partly for that call, which was outstanding, and it's partly

1205
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: for the years of enjoyment that Mike Keith has given

1206
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 1: listeners in Nashville and hopefully on the Around the NFL

1207
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 1: podcast and on this podcast. And Mike Keith, to me,

1208
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: he's the man. And since we won't get to hear

1209
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 1: him anymore, I guess I'm giving it. I'm giving it

1210
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:23,919
Speaker 1: to Mike Keith.

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00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 3: It makes perfect sense a team that for some reason

1212
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 3: still wears those Oilers uniforms that instead of sticking into

1213
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 3: their identity in Nashville, and Mike Keith is that to me?

1214
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 4: So he deserves honor.

1215
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 3: I think, like in terms of technical and execution and

1216
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 3: summarizing things. Paul Allen, Oh, okay, we're given you know,

1217
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 3: franchise voice cornerstones, their flowers. I'd give it to him

1218
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 3: for Van Ginkel reading Daniel Jones like a book.

1219
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 4: Love it.

1220
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: And yes, I think that Hail Mary call will live forever.

1221
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: Which is that's better than any award.

1222
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 3: The touchdown of lesson ten second Terry McLaurin to win

1223
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 3: the game. Uh, that would be a great brand call.

1224
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 3: You could legitimately have your own brand once once, Don Bracket.

1225
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: I think that that Ceciliano call is going to live

1226
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 1: in the hearts and minds of a lot of Browns

1227
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 1: fans forever and spend that pig is gonna do it

1228
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 1: for me as well. Let's get out of here. We'll

1229
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: be back on Friday. I'm gonna have my friends Adam

1230
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 1: and Ryan from the Saints Block Party podcast. They've been

1231
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 1: boots on the ground in Senior Bowl this week. Like,

1232
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 1: oh yeah, NFL Network got Daniel Jeremiah and Charles Davis.

1233
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 2: We got Adam and.

1234
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 1: Ryan coming on the show to recap the week at

1235
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. Looking forward to that, and yeah, let's

1236
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 1: let's end this with a little Mike Keith when when

1237
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 1: we're saying goodbye to a legend, you know.

1238
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 2: Football is back. Let us in the shotgun.

1239
01:00:54,240 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 7: Six men sent to Ruge Levis Ruby send zoneing deep

1240
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:01,959
Speaker 7: downfield for Westbrook at.

1241
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 10: Teen days, got it forty fifty, forty thirty, twenty ten

1242
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 10: five INDs of touchdown Titans, the longest touchdown pass of

1243
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 10: the year in the National Football League just went ninety

1244
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 10: eight years