WEBVTT - #217 - 38 Spesh 0:00:00.600 --> 0:00:02.840 Yo, what up? This is the boy Dame representing play 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:06.200 too Much CMG. Hey man, check me out on Bootleg 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:15.720 cav podcast. Yep, Bootleg cab Podcast. Special guests in here, Cyrus. 0:00:15.720 --> 0:00:19.480 Can we get this man a nice ashtray? Right? There's 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:21.640 one right there. Let's get him an ash tray? All right? 0:00:21.680 --> 0:00:24.880 We got thirty eight special in here. Yes, thirty eight spech. 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:26.479 We have to provide you with an ash tray for 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:28.800 the fire weed that you have been given. I appreciate that. 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:32.280 Some great weed, man. Yeah, my guy's highest draft pussy 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:36.279 right now. Yes, Iam, welcome man, It's good to see you, bro. 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:38.000 First of all, I just want to salute you. Man. 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:40.280 I've been a fan for a long time. You've definitely 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:45.159 been grinding over a decade. I feel like, definitely, what 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:48.960 are we talking fifteen years now? About fifteen? Because what 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:50.360 year did you have to go sit down? Was that 0:00:50.400 --> 0:00:54.520 like damn that was two thousand and nine and some shit? Yeah? 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:58.200 Yeah yeah yeah. Was it hard when you because like 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:00.280 I feel like you were buzzing and obviously to go 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:02.600 sit down that was horrible, man, Hell yeah, it was 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:04.679 fucking hard. Do you almost feel like there was like 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:07.160 was there was there a something positive you could took 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:08.520 out of there, like maybe you weren't ready for the 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:12.320 for the shine that was coming at the time. It was. Yeah, 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:15.240 looking back now, definitely I had a lot more living 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:16.880 to do, you know what I mean, a lot of 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:19.760 more things to experience. I had to get more of 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:22.800 an understanding of business. I realized I ain't want to 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:25.120 come in the game that way. Yeah, you know what 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:27.399 I'm saying. I didn't want to be that kind of artist. 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:29.760 You know. I wanted to come into the game a 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:31.360 certain kind of way, which was going to take a 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:34.280 certain kind of route, certain type of time. So look, 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:36.600 I didn't know that at the beginning. You know. I 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:38.759 wanted to get right to where I was going right 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:41.440 then and there skip the steps. Yeah, but the steps 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:44.360 you gotta do ship to make sure that you, you know, 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:47.680 is solid when you get there. Yep. So did you 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:50.880 feel like, because I feel like sometimes artists make a 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:54.560 mistake when they're kind of like one foot in, one 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:57.200 foot out on the rap shit, where it's like, did 0:01:57.240 --> 0:02:00.520 that force you to kind of really focus on music more, 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:02.920 take it a lot more serious when you got out 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:05.960 of course, Like I had to make a conscious decision 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:09.120 and ship, Like what did I want to do? And uh, 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:14.120 prior to me making that decision, I always gave most 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:18.680 of my energy to the streets as opposed to music. 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:21.880 You know, even like the titles of your early projects 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:24.639 were like right, it was all you know, out on, 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:28.520 out on bail and custody. Yeah, right ship like that 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:36.839 thirty eight Laws of Powder. But yeah, I'm high as fuck. 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:39.600 What was the question? I was just I was just saying, like, 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:42.400 you know, obviously a lot of artists coming into the 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:43.840 game and they have one foot in, one for out, 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:47.440 Like I feel like sometimes you have a humbling experience 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:49.880 like getting locked up, where you know it might maybe 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:53.280 kind of reprioritize how you see things. Yeah, of course, 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:55.280 man see it like a lot of a lot of 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:57.040 people I could cuss around, Yeah of course. So a 0:02:57.080 --> 0:03:00.120 lot of motherfuckers is running around taking extreme resk and 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:03.640 shit like that because they never suffered any consequences. You know, 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:05.880 the younger you are, the more wilder you are moven 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:08.960 reckless because you know, you really ain't experienced any consequences. 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:11.920 And shit me, I'm a person that experienced consequences at 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:17.400 the consequence, which makes me appreciate not halving that face consequences, 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:21.160 you know what I'm saying. So until you experience those consequences, 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:23.960 you're not going to have that same appreciation level. So 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:27.480 you know, I definitely have a high appreciation level from 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:30.880 suffering from those consequences, you know what I'm saying. And 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:35.120 I had to make a conscious decision, like I was saying, 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:39.160 to either take music one hundred and ten percent and 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:41.320 give it all and lead out of it shit alone, 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:43.920 which was a very hard decision because I wasn't in 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:46.880 the best position financially, right, and that easy money is 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:48.960 the easy money, right, Yeah, And what you know is 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:52.000 what you know. Yeah, And that's what the sacrifice come in, 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:54.920 you know. And I made those sacrifices, and it was 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:57.280 the best thing that I best decision I made for 0:03:57.360 --> 0:04:00.880 my life, you know what I'm saying. I made it 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:04.160 just by having faith, not really having a complete understanding 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:06.880 on how I was gonna capitalize a liquid eate. But 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:10.280 I knew the upside potential as opposed to the upside 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:12.760 of potential of the streets. Right, the potential is like 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:16.400 short term game, but the longside, the long term shit 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:20.479 is jail, death, incarceration. We know the results from that 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:23.880 right now, it's not you know, and you know, the 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:27.480 short term payoff is great. Yeah, of course, of course, 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:32.400 you know what I'm saying. But you know that other life, 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:35.760 meaning like the music and the music money, just seemed 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:39.280 a little more intriguing. And it's and it's not. There's 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:43.039 no there's really no one way to do it. And 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:45.920 I feel like you've done a great job of carving 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:51.200 your own way of making like I feel like most 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:54.520 artists look at the music industry as Okay, I'm gonna 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:57.480 get in advance, I'm gonna put out music and i'm 0:04:57.520 --> 0:04:59.919 gonna tour. I'm gonna go do clubs, I'm gonna do shows, 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:03.320 as opposed to really turning over every rock if you 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:07.279 have a core fan base, that's there's ways to monetize that. 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:11.400 It really is. And shit, that's what see, if I 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:13.920 was still in the streets, I wanted to magnify those 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:17.000 opportunities by me not being in the streets. I've really 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:19.520 seen that and noticed it. So it left up when 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:22.200 I was in the streets and relying on other areas. 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:26.680 You know, it's easy to leave rocks unturned, you know 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:28.720 what I'm saying. So it's like Okay, let me go 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:31.159 in and figure out how to make some money in 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:33.520 this area, in this area, in this area, because it's 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:36.480 all I have. Yep, I have no other way. And 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:38.680 sometimes you got to put yourself in those positions to 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:41.479 where all you got. If you a hustler, then you 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:44.320 got to put yourself in a position to where you 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:47.040 know you have to hustle. You got to look at 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:49.240 your product. I mean as much as like it's art, 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:51.359 but it's also like a business. You're in the music business, 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:53.760 and I feel like, especially as an independent artist, it 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:55.960 almost expands the way you can make money. If you're 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:57.599 signed on a major label, there's so much red tape 0:05:57.640 --> 0:05:59.479 anything you want to do. That's where you could do 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:02.240 whatever the fuck you want. You could drop a project 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:04.760 for three months before it's DSPs and only your fans 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:07.320 get it. You could drop a fucking limited edition vinyl run. 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:09.159 You could do it. So many things you could do that. 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:11.720 I figured that out later on, but at the beginning 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:14.000 of the journey that don't. That's not too like you know, 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:15.880 visible force, of course, you know what I'm saying. So 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:18.680 your first your goals change as you get more knowledge 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:21.080 and stuff. At first, I just wanted to deal. Yeah, 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:24.360 of course, keep your advance, get high and stuff. Back 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:27.400 then that was like definitely still with hard radio era, 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:28.840 that was kind of the way to go back then, 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:31.920 it was definitely the goal. Like, and I didn't understand that, 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:34.360 you know, you didn't need a lot of fans in 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:37.920 order to really like get rich facts. You know, you 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:40.800 just need you just need, you need more fans and followers. 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:43.680 I would take five hundred fans over a million followers. 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:46.600 I would definitely take that because five hundred fans, when 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:48.240 I say fans of people who will spend money with 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:49.520 you, you you can be able to pay your bills. You'll 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:50.880 be able to keep a roof over your head with 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:52.560 those five hundred people if you do it the right way. 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:55.919 Of course. Yeah, yeah, of course you've built waight. I 0:06:55.920 --> 0:06:58.040 mean you're you're you're up there, man, you're killing it. 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:01.560 But yeah, it's wild. I do feel like like when 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:03.040 I when you talk to people who've been locked up, 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:04.400 they take it as one or two ways. Either one 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:07.920 they come out and fucked more and situtionalized, or they 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:10.880 get humbled. Andy, it kind of corrects the path when 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:14.960 you were when you were in incarcerated, were you working 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:18.440 on your bars in there. Hell nah, nah, meat man, 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:21.880 I only could move off energy and real life events, right, 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:25.280 I can't really like you were like unmotivated. Yeah, I 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:27.600 don't even write on what I'm doing, Yeah, with my 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:29.880 life doing so I'm gonna either. I ain't want to 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:32.640 write about being in jail. I knew my ship was 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:36.560 natural talent and when I came home that I was 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:38.920 gonna be able to work. And actually when I came home, 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:41.400 you know, I stepped my ship up even more. You 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:43.000 know what I'm saying for was my flow and all 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:44.880 of that without having to practice in jail. It's just 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:47.680 a natural thing. But I ain't work on nothing in jail. Yeah. 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:49.680 Was there like a was there like a scene in 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:52.680 prison of like rappers, like people like kicking ciphers and 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:54.640 they obviously you had a name when you were in there. 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:59.000 Did people know who you were? Yeah? Or they found out? Well, 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:02.040 they were a couple of motherfuckers, was knowing who I was? 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:04.040 And shit, because I was still on the come up there, right, 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:06.080 you were still on to come up? Yeah. So but 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:08.000 I would run across a couple of spinners and ship 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:11.000 like shout out to my homeboy, iron Chic he was 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:13.120 on the battle scene and him had a few sessions 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:16.360 in the in the yard iron Chek. Yeah, shout out 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:18.559 the Iron Chek and ship Man. You know what I'm saying. 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:23.880 Facts you uh, for people who don't know, I feel 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:27.040 like a lot of people if it wasn't Griselda, they 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:29.520 discovered Bennie through you, got through you and you and 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:32.880 you guys doing the Early Collapse table was that twenty fifteen? Yeah, 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:34.800 like the Trust tapes and stuff like that, that that all 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:39.400 that early ship Explain your relationship obviously, both you guys 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:43.080 are from upstate about an hour apart Buffalo, Rochester minutes 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:47.320 our Explain how did you and Benny end up initially 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:51.000 linking up? I used to go to DJ Sha Studio, 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:53.320 Bressing Peace, Bressing Piece to DJ Shit. I used to 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:56.360 go there to record that was like that was Benning 0:08:56.400 --> 0:09:00.280 Home Studio and like green and Team Invasion and shout 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:03.480 out to Greenlander and Team Evasion. And they they suggested 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:05.880 that I go out to Buffalo to record at Shape Spot. 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:09.400 So you know, early in my career, like two thousand 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:11.640 and seven, I would go out there and just start 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:14.160 working on my early mixtapes, right, and then me and 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:16.400 Benny would just collapse because that was his home studio, 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:19.720 so eventually it became my home studio as well. And 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:22.400 that's how me and Benny gaked that relationship because I'll 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:24.480 come through there and we just be working and shit, 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:27.480 you know what I'm saying, And uh, that's how I started. 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:29.400 That's how I met Ben, That's how I met Conway, 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:32.160 and you know, the whole, the whole Griselda ship. Yeah, 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:33.920 I think you guys are synonymous with each other, both 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:36.920 of y'all's movements, you know, in terms of like what 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:38.719 y'all do with the fans, what y'all do on the 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:41.200 business side, like and then obviously musically. I think you 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:44.280 guys are very tidy in man, has it has it been? 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:46.920 It's been pretty dope for you just knowing Bennie since 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:50.160 back then to kind of see everything that Benny been 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:53.080 one of my main motivations on my journey and ship 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:56.439 because it was times that you know, on my journey, 0:09:56.640 --> 0:09:59.520 I faced so many things that would discourage me from 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:03.720 not you know, knowing how to capitalize off it, that 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:09.240 I would take breaks and watching Bennie he just would 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:14.000 keep going, would keep going, and that was the motivation 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:16.640 I needed, right, So when I seen like the response 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:20.400 he was getting, that motivated me. It was like, oh, 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:23.280 I know it's possible. You know, there's somebody I work 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:25.720 with all the time and I see how they responding 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:27.199 to him. So it's like, oh, let me show on 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:30.480 what I could do too. If Benny ain't keep working 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:33.040 the way he did, I went and I had that 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:37.920 motivation or inspiration to really keep going because like I said, 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:41.960 I wasn't making no money off of it after doing 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:45.040 it for ten years, right, So you know, once I 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:50.520 seen my boy doing actually getting the respect and the recognition, 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:52.680 it was like, oh, okay, we're on or something now. 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:54.760 And that's when I picked my pen back up and 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:57.280 we did stab and shot. That was a great project. 0:10:57.320 --> 0:10:59.920 Appreciate that, Yeah, great project. It's stoked because I like 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:03.720 to see watching you go on your recent run and 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:07.120 watching Ransom go on his recent run. It's been dope 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:10.840 to see. And uh, you know, Ransom somebody who's on 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:14.240 your new project, but he's also somebody who I feel like, 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:18.680 you know is has done a really good job of 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:23.520 finessing the independent game to your let like like using 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:25.680 like the positive because you know something like you said, 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:26.880 when you first came into the game, you're trying to 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:28.760 get a record. I think Ransom is somebody who like 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:32.760 is doing a great job of making sure he's super 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:34.959 serving his fans, making sure he don't he don't go 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:37.360 too too long without making sure you hear a project 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:38.880 from him, or you stay on top, like you know 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:41.280 what I mean. So it's dope to see both of 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:44.400 y'all from that era, right you know, really, I feel 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:46.640 like y'all are really catching your stride right now, Like 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:48.959 it's kind of crazy. It is crazy, you know what 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:53.680 I'm saying. It's really it's it's it's motivational, inspirational to 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:55.840 the people that's grinding and let you know, not to 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:58.559 give up, because there's chapters of every of your guys' 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:02.640 careers that are like legendary within themselves, you know what 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:06.960 I mean. So it's like just to see ten, twelve, thirteen, 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:10.720 fourteen years in both of y'all are fucking hitting your peak. 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:13.840 It's like it's dope, and like you said, it is inspirational. 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:15.360 I'm sure for a lot of artists who can watch 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:18.640 them just be like, damn, these dude is really hitting 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:22.200 their stride right now. All these years later. Yeah, we 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:24.079 got to stop the interview real quick to tell you 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:27.320 about our folks at my Bookie. Ladies and gentlemen. 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Would you say that, like obviously you said 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:57.319 Benny was a big inspiration, but like just the you know, 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:00.000 I feel like you and you and Grisela have similar 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:03.319 her business models in terms of YO, when we drop, 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:05.800 we're gonna have the merch, we're gonna have the vinyl. 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:08.880 We're gonna make sure that fans can show up and 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:11.839 support us with with where it counts like you might 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:14.079 not pay for the project, but hey, we gotta We 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:16.559 got a hoodie, we gotta TV. Would you say that, 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:20.000 like with what Grisela kind of did, I don't know 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:22.080 who was doing that first, but now well on the 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:23.800 on the merch side and that whole thing that was 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:27.600 definitely Griselta. They they they helped introduce the whole formula 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:30.160 to how to actually capitalize. Shout out to Gun because 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:34.040 shut out the Gun And that's another thing, like you know, 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:37.600 if Gun ain't really do what he did, you know, 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:40.840 I wouldn't have the motivation to really take it serious 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:43.600 as well. I didn't really see that it was money 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:46.600 to be made and really see how to really connect 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:49.040 with the people. And Gun figure that out. You know 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:51.680 what I'm saying, Father, It's like how to actually capitalize 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:53.920 on the fan base and ship, you know what I'm saying. 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:57.120 So so so shout out to the whole Grisetta. So yeah, 0:14:57.200 --> 0:15:00.800 yeah that that that that that whole formula is that 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:04.320 whole independent formula started you know with them over there, 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:07.000 you know what I mean? Fowers that way of course, 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:12.440 like definitely definite. You also, uh, you know, you're no 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:14.400 stranger to do in collad project. Shout out to my 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:17.080 guy Chase Fatty who's been through here, you guys had 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:21.400 a dope project together. Who is on your radar that 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:23.360 like if you were there's like an up and coming 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:24.920 artist that you're just fucking with them, Like if you 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:26.960 could do an album with them? Who would have beat this? 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:34.240 You respect? Oh? Man, let me see man, because it 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:36.320 could also be a O G. Just somebody here, Like, man, 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:40.040 if I could do something with this person, be crazy. Man. 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:42.000 I would love to produce an album for Foot of 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:45.840 God as a Z. I would love to produce an 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:49.760 album for a You know what I'm saying, Brooklyn's final 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:52.040 shoutout man, shout out to the God. You know what 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:54.200 I'm saying. As far as new new people, you know 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:56.840 what I mean? Like I pretty much work with everybody 0:15:56.920 --> 0:15:58.680 knew that I'm that I'm feeling, man, you know what 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:02.040 I'm saying. And uh, you know what I mean. The 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:07.840 newest people that I'm feeling like, who is applying pressure 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:11.920 lyrically would have to be like Shane or you know, 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:14.200 just off of the simple factor. You know, I have 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:17.000 worked with her and see how she held her own. Yeah, 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:19.240 you guys gotten for sure, you know, and you know 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:21.160 she she held her own with every single one of 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:23.880 us from Ransom Bennie to me and you know we 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:26.320 we we swing. You know what I like is who's 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:28.760 on the BSF album? He was just up here. I 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:31.320 like go to the real too. I like O T too. Yeah, 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:36.920 he got got some real he'd be saying shit in 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:39.680 a way to be hitting. That makes sense, So shouts 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:44.520 to ot Man. Okay, So seven Shots is out for you. 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:46.840 When you like, look at a year, right, let's say 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:50.600 we're January twenty twenty three, do you automatically know what 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:52.640 the year is looking like, like I'm gonna put this out, 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:54.400 this out, this out or you just kind of go 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:56.480 with the flow in terms of like release schedule or 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:59.840 like like it depends on how much I've been working 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:02.200 year prior. You know what I'm saying. If I've been 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:04.280 working a year prior, then yeah, you know what I'm saying. 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:07.840 Like this year, I didn't really have it figured out. 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:11.679 Last year I took a break from uh from the 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:14.320 writing side and focus more on the producing an executive 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:17.400 producing side. So I really ain't have I wasn't really 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:19.480 like just going to work like I usually would do 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:21.520 when I write. You know what I'm saying. I usually 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:23.480 would go make a record put it to the side, 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:25.600 go make records, put it to the side. But I 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:28.719 went all that time without doing nothing before seven shots. Yeah, 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:30.600 so I didn't really know when I was gonna drop 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:32.320 this year. I just woke up one day, hit my 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:34.280 engineer and was like, yo, let's lock in, and we 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:36.320 went to the studio and I recorded the whole album 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:38.680 that day, the whole the whole album that day. Because 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:42.160 I recorded the whole it's eight records, yeah, eight records. Yeah, 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:45.080 I mean so one day. Yeah, I recorded the whole 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:47.680 album that day. That's you know what I'm saying that, Yeah, 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:49.760 And it was a feel. It was a feel like 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:51.640 I like to provide a field, so you know when 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:54.240 I that's how I record. I like to capture the 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:57.280 energy of that time, you know what I'm saying, and 0:17:57.640 --> 0:18:00.000 record everything while I'm feeling that energy. And that's why 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:03.720 the projects sound like that. Sonning for you, there's like, 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:06.440 obviously guys like yourself, guys like Rock Marcie, who will 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:09.160 executive produce or produce a whole album for somebody else? 0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:12.760 Like what is the approach for when you put your 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:15.159 producer hat on it, and how does it differentiate from 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:21.480 when you are the artist. Uh, well, my producer had 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:25.680 I'm basically more or less like a coach, right, I'm 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:29.359 just sitting there like just watching and and there to 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:34.000 actually like critique, not really just you know, like just 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:36.920 to actually help form whatever it is and make sure 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:39.400 it's the best. You know what I'm saying. As a producer, 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:44.240 I'm not really you know, And you know it's it's 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:47.520 I actually enjoy that a little a lot more than 0:18:47.600 --> 0:18:50.280 than than than me than the autist side, you know 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:53.040 what I'm saying. Being the coach. Yeah, you know what 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:56.520 I'm saying, Like you know what I mean. But you 0:18:56.560 --> 0:18:59.080 know that's that's I have to put a lot of 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:02.560 time into that when I'm in that mode, you know, 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:05.880 just like on the business side. When I'm in business mode, 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:07.960 I'm in business mode, I really ain't thinking about writing, 0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:09.840 no raps or nothing like that, you know what I'm saying. 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:13.159 And when I'm in production mode, I'm bringing out twenty 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:14.840 beats in a day, you know what I'm saying, So 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:16.840 it'd be certain hats when I'm in rap mode, like 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:20.080 right now, I'm rapping. I didn't produce one song on 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:24.520 seven Shots because I'm rapping, you know, So I took 0:19:24.560 --> 0:19:28.000 the producer hat off and I'm got yeah, and I'm 0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:31.040 just rapping. You know, appreciate y'all watching. 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