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Speaker 1: First of all, I just want to salute you. Man.
Speaker 1: I've been a fan for a long time. You've definitely
Speaker 1: been grinding over a decade. I feel like, definitely, what
Speaker 1: are we talking fifteen years now? About fifteen? Because what
Speaker 1: year did you have to go sit down? Was that
Speaker 1: like damn that was two thousand and nine and some shit? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah. Was it hard when you because like
Speaker 1: I feel like you were buzzing and obviously to go
Speaker 1: sit down that was horrible, man, Hell yeah, it was
Speaker 1: fucking hard. Do you almost feel like there was like
Speaker 1: was there was there a something positive you could took
Speaker 1: out of there, like maybe you weren't ready for the
Speaker 1: for the shine that was coming at the time. It was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: looking back now, definitely I had a lot more living
Speaker 1: to do, you know what I mean, a lot of
Speaker 1: more things to experience. I had to get more of
Speaker 1: an understanding of business. I realized I ain't want to
Speaker 1: come in the game that way. Yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I didn't want to be that kind of artist.
Speaker 1: You know. I wanted to come into the game a
Speaker 1: certain kind of way, which was going to take a
Speaker 1: certain kind of route, certain type of time. So look,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that at the beginning. You know. I
Speaker 1: wanted to get right to where I was going right
Speaker 1: then and there skip the steps. Yeah, but the steps
Speaker 1: you gotta do ship to make sure that you, you know,
Speaker 1: is solid when you get there. Yep. So did you
Speaker 1: feel like, because I feel like sometimes artists make a
Speaker 1: mistake when they're kind of like one foot in, one
Speaker 1: foot out on the rap shit, where it's like, did
Speaker 1: that force you to kind of really focus on music more,
Speaker 1: take it a lot more serious when you got out
Speaker 1: of course, Like I had to make a conscious decision
Speaker 1: and ship, Like what did I want to do? And uh,
Speaker 1: prior to me making that decision, I always gave most
Speaker 1: of my energy to the streets as opposed to music.
Speaker 1: You know, even like the titles of your early projects
Speaker 1: were like right, it was all you know, out on,
Speaker 1: out on bail and custody. Yeah, right ship like that
Speaker 1: thirty eight Laws of Powder. But yeah, I'm high as fuck.
Speaker 1: What was the question? I was just I was just saying, like,
Speaker 1: you know, obviously a lot of artists coming into the
Speaker 1: game and they have one foot in, one for out,
Speaker 1: Like I feel like sometimes you have a humbling experience
Speaker 1: like getting locked up, where you know it might maybe
Speaker 1: kind of reprioritize how you see things. Yeah, of course,
Speaker 1: man see it like a lot of a lot of
Speaker 1: people I could cuss around, Yeah of course. So a
Speaker 1: lot of motherfuckers is running around taking extreme resk and
Speaker 1: shit like that because they never suffered any consequences. You know,
Speaker 1: the younger you are, the more wilder you are moven
Speaker 1: reckless because you know, you really ain't experienced any consequences.
Speaker 1: And shit me, I'm a person that experienced consequences at
Speaker 1: the consequence, which makes me appreciate not halving that face consequences,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So until you experience those consequences,
Speaker 1: you're not going to have that same appreciation level. So
Speaker 1: you know, I definitely have a high appreciation level from
Speaker 1: suffering from those consequences, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: I had to make a conscious decision, like I was saying,
Speaker 1: to either take music one hundred and ten percent and
Speaker 1: give it all and lead out of it shit alone,
Speaker 1: which was a very hard decision because I wasn't in
Speaker 1: the best position financially, right, and that easy money is
Speaker 1: the easy money, right, Yeah, And what you know is
Speaker 1: what you know. Yeah, And that's what the sacrifice come in,
Speaker 1: you know. And I made those sacrifices, and it was
Speaker 1: the best thing that I best decision I made for
Speaker 1: my life, you know what I'm saying. I made it
Speaker 1: just by having faith, not really having a complete understanding
Speaker 1: on how I was gonna capitalize a liquid eate. But
Speaker 1: I knew the upside potential as opposed to the upside
Speaker 1: of potential of the streets. Right, the potential is like
Speaker 1: short term game, but the longside, the long term shit
Speaker 1: is jail, death, incarceration. We know the results from that
Speaker 1: right now, it's not you know, and you know, the
Speaker 1: short term payoff is great. Yeah, of course, of course,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But you know that other life,
Speaker 1: meaning like the music and the music money, just seemed
Speaker 1: a little more intriguing. And it's and it's not. There's
Speaker 1: no there's really no one way to do it. And
Speaker 1: I feel like you've done a great job of carving
Speaker 1: your own way of making like I feel like most
Speaker 1: artists look at the music industry as Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get in advance, I'm gonna put out music and i'm
Speaker 1: gonna tour. I'm gonna go do clubs, I'm gonna do shows,
Speaker 1: as opposed to really turning over every rock if you
Speaker 1: have a core fan base, that's there's ways to monetize that.
Speaker 1: It really is. And shit, that's what see, if I
Speaker 1: was still in the streets, I wanted to magnify those
Speaker 1: opportunities by me not being in the streets. I've really
Speaker 1: seen that and noticed it. So it left up when
Speaker 1: I was in the streets and relying on other areas.
Speaker 1: You know, it's easy to leave rocks unturned, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it's like Okay, let me go
Speaker 1: in and figure out how to make some money in
Speaker 1: this area, in this area, in this area, because it's
Speaker 1: all I have. Yep, I have no other way. And
Speaker 1: sometimes you got to put yourself in those positions to
Speaker 1: where all you got. If you a hustler, then you
Speaker 1: got to put yourself in a position to where you
Speaker 1: know you have to hustle. You got to look at
Speaker 1: your product. I mean as much as like it's art,
Speaker 1: but it's also like a business. You're in the music business,
Speaker 1: and I feel like, especially as an independent artist, it
Speaker 1: almost expands the way you can make money. If you're
Speaker 1: signed on a major label, there's so much red tape
Speaker 1: anything you want to do. That's where you could do
Speaker 1: whatever the fuck you want. You could drop a project
Speaker 1: for three months before it's DSPs and only your fans
Speaker 1: get it. You could drop a fucking limited edition vinyl run.
Speaker 1: You could do it. So many things you could do that.
Speaker 1: I figured that out later on, but at the beginning
Speaker 1: of the journey that don't. That's not too like you know,
Speaker 1: visible force, of course, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: your first your goals change as you get more knowledge
Speaker 1: and stuff. At first, I just wanted to deal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, keep your advance, get high and stuff. Back
Speaker 1: then that was like definitely still with hard radio era,
Speaker 1: that was kind of the way to go back then,
Speaker 1: it was definitely the goal. Like, and I didn't understand that,
Speaker 1: you know, you didn't need a lot of fans in
Speaker 1: order to really like get rich facts. You know, you
Speaker 1: just need you just need, you need more fans and followers.
Speaker 1: I would take five hundred fans over a million followers.
Speaker 1: I would definitely take that because five hundred fans, when
Speaker 1: I say fans of people who will spend money with
Speaker 1: you, you you can be able to pay your bills. You'll
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Speaker 1: those five hundred people if you do it the right way.
Speaker 1: Of course. Yeah, yeah, of course you've built waight. I
Speaker 1: mean you're you're you're up there, man, you're killing it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's wild. I do feel like like when
Speaker 1: I when you talk to people who've been locked up,
Speaker 1: they take it as one or two ways. Either one
Speaker 1: they come out and fucked more and situtionalized, or they
Speaker 1: get humbled. Andy, it kind of corrects the path when
Speaker 1: you were when you were in incarcerated, were you working
Speaker 1: on your bars in there. Hell nah, nah, meat man,
Speaker 1: I only could move off energy and real life events, right,
Speaker 1: I can't really like you were like unmotivated. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't even write on what I'm doing, Yeah, with my
Speaker 1: life doing so I'm gonna either. I ain't want to
Speaker 1: write about being in jail. I knew my ship was
Speaker 1: natural talent and when I came home that I was
Speaker 1: gonna be able to work. And actually when I came home,
Speaker 1: you know, I stepped my ship up even more. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying for was my flow and all
Speaker 1: of that without having to practice in jail. It's just
Speaker 1: a natural thing. But I ain't work on nothing in jail. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Was there like a was there like a scene in
Speaker 1: prison of like rappers, like people like kicking ciphers and
Speaker 1: they obviously you had a name when you were in there.
Speaker 1: Did people know who you were? Yeah? Or they found out? Well,
Speaker 1: they were a couple of motherfuckers, was knowing who I was?
Speaker 1: And shit, because I was still on the come up there, right,
Speaker 1: you were still on to come up? Yeah. So but
Speaker 1: I would run across a couple of spinners and ship
Speaker 1: like shout out to my homeboy, iron Chic he was
Speaker 1: on the battle scene and him had a few sessions
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Speaker 1: the Iron Chek and ship Man. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Facts you uh, for people who don't know, I feel
Speaker 1: like a lot of people if it wasn't Griselda, they
Speaker 1: discovered Bennie through you, got through you and you and
Speaker 1: you guys doing the Early Collapse table was that twenty fifteen? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like the Trust tapes and stuff like that, that that all
Speaker 1: that early ship Explain your relationship obviously, both you guys
Speaker 1: are from upstate about an hour apart Buffalo, Rochester minutes
Speaker 1: our Explain how did you and Benny end up initially
Speaker 1: linking up? I used to go to DJ Sha Studio,
Speaker 1: Bressing Peace, Bressing Piece to DJ Shit. I used to
Speaker 1: go there to record that was like that was Benning
Speaker 1: Home Studio and like green and Team Invasion and shout
Speaker 1: out to Greenlander and Team Evasion. And they they suggested
Speaker 1: that I go out to Buffalo to record at Shape Spot.
Speaker 1: So you know, early in my career, like two thousand
Speaker 1: and seven, I would go out there and just start
Speaker 1: working on my early mixtapes, right, and then me and
Speaker 1: Benny would just collapse because that was his home studio,
Speaker 1: so eventually it became my home studio as well. And
Speaker 1: that's how me and Benny gaked that relationship because I'll
Speaker 1: come through there and we just be working and shit,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And uh, that's how I started.
Speaker 1: That's how I met Ben, That's how I met Conway,
Speaker 1: and you know, the whole, the whole Griselda ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you guys are synonymous with each other, both
Speaker 1: of y'all's movements, you know, in terms of like what
Speaker 1: y'all do with the fans, what y'all do on the
Speaker 1: business side, like and then obviously musically. I think you
Speaker 1: guys are very tidy in man, has it has it been?
Speaker 1: It's been pretty dope for you just knowing Bennie since
Speaker 1: back then to kind of see everything that Benny been
Speaker 1: one of my main motivations on my journey and ship
Speaker 1: because it was times that you know, on my journey,
Speaker 1: I faced so many things that would discourage me from
Speaker 1: not you know, knowing how to capitalize off it, that
Speaker 1: I would take breaks and watching Bennie he just would
Speaker 1: keep going, would keep going, and that was the motivation
Speaker 1: I needed, right, So when I seen like the response
Speaker 1: he was getting, that motivated me. It was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I know it's possible. You know, there's somebody I work
Speaker 1: with all the time and I see how they responding
Speaker 1: to him. So it's like, oh, let me show on
Speaker 1: what I could do too. If Benny ain't keep working
Speaker 1: the way he did, I went and I had that
Speaker 1: motivation or inspiration to really keep going because like I said,
Speaker 1: I wasn't making no money off of it after doing
Speaker 1: it for ten years, right, So you know, once I
Speaker 1: seen my boy doing actually getting the respect and the recognition,
Speaker 1: it was like, oh, okay, we're on or something now.
Speaker 1: And that's when I picked my pen back up and
Speaker 1: we did stab and shot. That was a great project.
Speaker 1: Appreciate that, Yeah, great project. It's stoked because I like
Speaker 1: to see watching you go on your recent run and
Speaker 1: watching Ransom go on his recent run. It's been dope
Speaker 1: to see. And uh, you know, Ransom somebody who's on
Speaker 1: your new project, but he's also somebody who I feel like,
Speaker 1: you know is has done a really good job of
Speaker 1: finessing the independent game to your let like like using
Speaker 1: like the positive because you know something like you said,
Speaker 1: when you first came into the game, you're trying to
Speaker 1: get a record. I think Ransom is somebody who like
Speaker 1: is doing a great job of making sure he's super
Speaker 1: serving his fans, making sure he don't he don't go
Speaker 1: too too long without making sure you hear a project
Speaker 1: from him, or you stay on top, like you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So it's dope to see both of
Speaker 1: y'all from that era, right you know, really, I feel
Speaker 1: like y'all are really catching your stride right now, Like
Speaker 1: it's kind of crazy. It is crazy, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's really it's it's it's motivational, inspirational to
Speaker 1: the people that's grinding and let you know, not to
Speaker 1: give up, because there's chapters of every of your guys'
Speaker 1: careers that are like legendary within themselves, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So it's like just to see ten, twelve, thirteen,
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Speaker 1: It's like it's dope, and like you said, it is inspirational.
Speaker 1: I'm sure for a lot of artists who can watch
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Speaker 1: the interview. Would you say that, like obviously you said
Speaker 1: Benny was a big inspiration, but like just the you know,
Speaker 1: I feel like you and you and Grisela have similar
Speaker 1: her business models in terms of YO, when we drop,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have the merch, we're gonna have the vinyl.
Speaker 1: We're gonna make sure that fans can show up and
Speaker 1: support us with with where it counts like you might
Speaker 1: not pay for the project, but hey, we gotta We
Speaker 1: got a hoodie, we gotta TV. Would you say that,
Speaker 1: like with what Grisela kind of did, I don't know
Speaker 1: who was doing that first, but now well on the
Speaker 1: on the merch side and that whole thing that was
Speaker 1: definitely Griselta. They they they helped introduce the whole formula
Speaker 1: to how to actually capitalize. Shout out to Gun because
Speaker 1: shut out the Gun And that's another thing, like you know,
Speaker 1: if Gun ain't really do what he did, you know,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have the motivation to really take it serious
Speaker 1: as well. I didn't really see that it was money
Speaker 1: to be made and really see how to really connect
Speaker 1: with the people. And Gun figure that out. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Father, It's like how to actually capitalize
Speaker 1: on the fan base and ship, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So so so shout out to the whole Grisetta. So yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah that that that that that whole formula is that
Speaker 1: whole independent formula started you know with them over there,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Fowers that way of course,
Speaker 1: like definitely definite. You also, uh, you know, you're no
Speaker 1: stranger to do in collad project. Shout out to my
Speaker 1: guy Chase Fatty who's been through here, you guys had
Speaker 1: a dope project together. Who is on your radar that
Speaker 1: like if you were there's like an up and coming
Speaker 1: artist that you're just fucking with them, Like if you
Speaker 1: could do an album with them? Who would have beat this?
Speaker 1: You respect? Oh? Man, let me see man, because it
Speaker 1: could also be a O G. Just somebody here, Like, man,
Speaker 1: if I could do something with this person, be crazy. Man.
Speaker 1: I would love to produce an album for Foot of
Speaker 1: God as a Z. I would love to produce an
Speaker 1: album for a You know what I'm saying, Brooklyn's final
Speaker 1: shoutout man, shout out to the God. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. As far as new new people, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like I pretty much work with everybody
Speaker 1: knew that I'm that I'm feeling, man, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And uh, you know what I mean. The
Speaker 1: newest people that I'm feeling like, who is applying pressure
Speaker 1: lyrically would have to be like Shane or you know,
Speaker 1: just off of the simple factor. You know, I have
Speaker 1: worked with her and see how she held her own. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys gotten for sure, you know, and you know
Speaker 1: she she held her own with every single one of
Speaker 1: us from Ransom Bennie to me and you know we
Speaker 1: we we swing. You know what I like is who's
Speaker 1: on the BSF album? He was just up here. I
Speaker 1: like go to the real too. I like O T too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he got got some real he'd be saying shit in
Speaker 1: a way to be hitting. That makes sense, So shouts
Speaker 1: to ot Man. Okay, So seven Shots is out for you.
Speaker 1: When you like, look at a year, right, let's say
Speaker 1: we're January twenty twenty three, do you automatically know what
Speaker 1: the year is looking like, like I'm gonna put this out,
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Speaker 1: with the flow in terms of like release schedule or
Speaker 1: like like it depends on how much I've been working
Speaker 1: year prior. You know what I'm saying. If I've been
Speaker 1: working a year prior, then yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like this year, I didn't really have it figured out.
Speaker 1: Last year I took a break from uh from the
Speaker 1: writing side and focus more on the producing an executive
Speaker 1: producing side. So I really ain't have I wasn't really
Speaker 1: like just going to work like I usually would do
Speaker 1: when I write. You know what I'm saying. I usually
Speaker 1: would go make a record put it to the side,
Speaker 1: go make records, put it to the side. But I
Speaker 1: went all that time without doing nothing before seven shots. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I didn't really know when I was gonna drop
Speaker 1: this year. I just woke up one day, hit my
Speaker 1: engineer and was like, yo, let's lock in, and we
Speaker 1: went to the studio and I recorded the whole album
Speaker 1: that day, the whole the whole album that day. Because
Speaker 1: I recorded the whole it's eight records, yeah, eight records. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean so one day. Yeah, I recorded the whole
Speaker 1: album that day. That's you know what I'm saying that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And it was a feel. It was a feel like
Speaker 1: I like to provide a field, so you know when
Speaker 1: I that's how I record. I like to capture the
Speaker 1: energy of that time, you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 1: record everything while I'm feeling that energy. And that's why
Speaker 1: the projects sound like that. Sonning for you, there's like,
Speaker 1: obviously guys like yourself, guys like Rock Marcie, who will
Speaker 1: executive produce or produce a whole album for somebody else?
Speaker 1: Like what is the approach for when you put your
Speaker 1: producer hat on it, and how does it differentiate from
Speaker 1: when you are the artist. Uh, well, my producer had
Speaker 1: I'm basically more or less like a coach, right, I'm
Speaker 1: just sitting there like just watching and and there to
Speaker 1: actually like critique, not really just you know, like just
Speaker 1: to actually help form whatever it is and make sure
Speaker 1: it's the best. You know what I'm saying. As a producer,
Speaker 1: I'm not really you know, And you know it's it's
Speaker 1: I actually enjoy that a little a lot more than
Speaker 1: than than than me than the autist side, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Being the coach. Yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like you know what I mean. But you
Speaker 1: know that's that's I have to put a lot of
Speaker 1: time into that when I'm in that mode, you know,
Speaker 1: just like on the business side. When I'm in business mode,
Speaker 1: I'm in business mode, I really ain't thinking about writing,
Speaker 1: no raps or nothing like that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And when I'm in production mode, I'm bringing out twenty
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Speaker 1: it'd be certain hats when I'm in rap mode, like
Speaker 1: right now, I'm rapping. I didn't produce one song on
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Speaker 1: up until the last maybe seven eight years, I feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, very slept on. I mean, you were probably
Speaker 1: were you locked up when Amelio started to pop a bit,
Speaker 1: when Breaking Point came out. I just came home and shit,
Speaker 1: I just came home around that time and shit. But yeah,
Speaker 1: because when I think of Rochester, I think of you,
Speaker 1: I think of him, I think of Green Lantern. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's how it started. Yeah, with the whole hip hop scene.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I remember having the Team
Speaker 1: Invasion mixtapes back in the day exactly. Shout out the
Speaker 1: Team Invasion selling them out to swat Meet, Shout out
Speaker 1: to Greenlander, like Greenlander was like the og of the
Speaker 1: town that really like open doors like that let us know,
Speaker 1: like okay, oh yeah, Eminem's DJ, jay Z's DJ Naz's DJ,
Speaker 1: right and one of the coldest producers, right, And people
Speaker 1: don't understand Like, man, I used to sit under Green
Speaker 1: and study a lot, Like that's how I know how
Speaker 1: to put a project together, you know, I know I
Speaker 1: understand it, like how I would want to start and
Speaker 1: how I would want to make it end, and like
Speaker 1: you know that come from like you know, really sitting
Speaker 1: there up under Green. Green Lantern has got my favorite
Speaker 1: mixtapes ever, probably and uh he's probably he's probably my
Speaker 1: favorite mixtape DJ of all time, to be honest, man,
Speaker 1: So shout out to Green that's my dog. He's out
Speaker 1: of my hometown now, nay Z doing his thing man
Speaker 1: Green Lantern. Man, So I was gonna say, was it
Speaker 1: did it work against you? Not being from New York
Speaker 1: City and being from that the city in that area.
Speaker 1: At first, it definitely it just started working funny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that ain't become cool until you know, recently these last
Speaker 1: couple of years. Before then, they they wasn't jack and
Speaker 1: that it was so hard, like you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like New York is real like territorial prideful, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: and that what they rep like, you know they so
Speaker 1: it's like they ain't even really like supporting other boroughs.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like the Bronx right loan another spy
Speaker 1: six hours away, you know what I'm saying. Serious drive
Speaker 1: they never even heard of before. So it was real
Speaker 1: hard for them to like understand where we was coming from.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. They didn't understand it because
Speaker 1: you know, they didn't understand that you know, these were
Speaker 1: stories up here and people really getting busy up here.
Speaker 1: They never been up there, never went to the prison system,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So you think it's it's
Speaker 1: that's gone away recently. Hell yeah, that was the understanding. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, if they understand now, like
Speaker 1: like you know, there's another part of New York because
Speaker 1: I feel like there's always guys like you know, obviously
Speaker 1: Static Select is not from New York, is from Boston,
Speaker 1: but I feel like he always would show love on
Speaker 1: SHA forty five just to the guys like you know,
Speaker 1: the Gris all the guys. That's when I first heard
Speaker 1: of them was a Static freestyle and case Leigh you
Speaker 1: know definitely. But I feel like now you know, you'll
Speaker 1: see Folk Flex show support, you know, and obviously shot
Speaker 1: out to Conway for motivating Flex to challenge every New
Speaker 1: York rapper to make new music. I'm glad something dope
Speaker 1: came out of that situation because it looked interesting in
Speaker 1: for a shouts about got conract. But for you man,
Speaker 1: like in twenty twenty two, when you put out a project,
Speaker 1: what is the like checklist? It's like, Okay, the album's
Speaker 1: gonna come out. We got to have the merch together,
Speaker 1: We got to have the vinyl together, Like what is
Speaker 1: everything that you You got to make sure it's put
Speaker 1: together before you put a project out, because like we said,
Speaker 1: you're a hustler. You know how to really ulterally monetize
Speaker 1: your work, your art. For independent artists that are watching this, like,
Speaker 1: what are the things that you make sure are all
Speaker 1: aligned before you put something out. I make sure that
Speaker 1: the project is you know, I make sure I got
Speaker 1: I make sure it's done, and I got all the
Speaker 1: assets first, you know, assets meaning like my good artwork,
Speaker 1: social media stuff, social media stuff, videos, things that I
Speaker 1: could do that I could use to help with my rollout.
Speaker 1: You know, I make sure I got all of that
Speaker 1: before I go and hire a publicist or somebody that
Speaker 1: work it, because you don't want to hire the publics
Speaker 1: for everything you chasing, you tell stuff like that. So
Speaker 1: the first thing I do is make sure I got
Speaker 1: all the assets connected to the project. After I got that,
Speaker 1: then I make sure I got all the merchant stuff
Speaker 1: you know, in production. And then that's about it. Man.
Speaker 1: Once I got all of those things linked up, you know,
Speaker 1: I make sure that I'm with a good distributor to
Speaker 1: make sure I could get some proper visibility on right,
Speaker 1: maybe some playlists pitching, you know what I'm saying, which
Speaker 1: is very important. And that's about it. Once I got
Speaker 1: those things, and you know, I don't you know, I
Speaker 1: make sure I turn the music in at least thirty
Speaker 1: days or more prior to me releasing and give the
Speaker 1: digital peoples enough time to do what they need to
Speaker 1: do with it, like you can't just like us sometimes
Speaker 1: as all this, we'll lock ourselves into a date, be
Speaker 1: like I'm wanna drop next week. Just get them the
Speaker 1: music and stuff, you know, you want to actually really
Speaker 1: turn stuff in, you know, and then come up with
Speaker 1: the date. Yeah, because if you've come up with the
Speaker 1: date and the album's not mixed master turned in, then you,
Speaker 1: like you said, you handcuf yourself to a day and
Speaker 1: right for artists who don't know, like you, definitely want
Speaker 1: to turn your shit in thirty days prior for the
Speaker 1: DSPs at least at least you know, at least you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So yeah, that's that's about that.
Speaker 1: How does somebody get vinyl made? Is that? Is that
Speaker 1: hell right now? Because I heard it's really tough. It's
Speaker 1: hard as hell right now. Man, So if you it's right, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: So listen, Vinyl is like gold man. You know, y'all
Speaker 1: get y'all good piece of vinyl. Them things going up
Speaker 1: in value, they are, people are collecting them and they're
Speaker 1: going to are collecting them. Shut out to the collectors, man,
Speaker 1: y'all go on these on e Bay and stuff. Y'all
Speaker 1: gonna see some pieces of vinyl in there that's selling
Speaker 1: for thousands of dollars and shit like that. Man. You know,
Speaker 1: so when I get ready to drop seven shots, y'all
Speaker 1: make sure y'all stand in line and get a piece
Speaker 1: of this because it's only going to be a limited amount.
Speaker 1: And you know they ain't gonna do nothing but go
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Speaker 1: been a part of from this year, what is your
Speaker 1: favorite album, what's your album of the year so far?
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty two. Oh shit, man, man, what did I
Speaker 1: listen to this? Shit? Man? Damn man, I don't want
Speaker 1: to give me like three of them. I don't listen
Speaker 1: to people. How about that, You didn't listen to the
Speaker 1: Pusher t album? Nah, it's fire, I gotta go listen
Speaker 1: to it. What about Kendricks? You listen to Kendrick's album? Definitely?
Speaker 1: I heard not I heard. I heard like what was
Speaker 1: on a radio like with him and the chit going
Speaker 1: back and forth. I thought that shit was called him
Speaker 1: in the check. I didn't go listen to it, though.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of with when it comes to music, right,
Speaker 1: I gotta have like I'm not unreal. I don't know, bro,
Speaker 1: I'm a little weird and shit when it comes to me,
Speaker 1: I don't listen it. Like that's fair? Like that? What
Speaker 1: about who would you consider your top like four or five?
Speaker 1: Like your personal It don't got to be the greatest
Speaker 1: of all time. I'm talking about just like your personal favorites.
Speaker 1: Just MC's all time Cougie rap I put at the
Speaker 1: top of the list. Yeah, obviously escites ain't in no order,
Speaker 1: but you rap start first, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you've obviously got music dedicated to him. Shot the coolgie
Speaker 1: rap shit whole, not just from lyrical content, from from
Speaker 1: from the field, everything everything, fuck it. Yeah. Oh nahs
Speaker 1: for creativity, fucking rewind Man like creativity, like I got
Speaker 1: different rappers, that's for different things. Tupac for emotion pain Yep,
Speaker 1: that was the first person that made me feel something
Speaker 1: like how I feel sad or I feel happy? I
Speaker 1: feel Tupac from pain on one more one more? Huh
Speaker 1: damn big, big and without a doubt, big for just
Speaker 1: like flow the best flow ever flow butter flow right,
Speaker 1: big for flow period. That's fair. Yeah, that's a grade five.
Speaker 1: You should cause you rap too, man, They'll get enough
Speaker 1: flowers out here. Honorable mention, Big pun pun Man, Honorable
Speaker 1: mention Punk Apple Punishment. Oh god, that's one of the biggest,
Speaker 1: the biggest webs. Like, man, what a pun would have
Speaker 1: never passed? Man? Ship? Where would he be at right now?
Speaker 1: I mean Ship, Biggie and Tupac. We could say that
Speaker 1: about three of them, right Ship A whole different landscape
Speaker 1: of this whole game, bro, that's fun. It be insane. Man,
Speaker 1: what you got coming? Do you have anything else coming?
Speaker 1: The rest of the Year or anything out in the books,
Speaker 1: more music, or you just working seven shots right now.
Speaker 1: I'm working seven shots. But I got some ship. I
Speaker 1: don't know if I want to announce it yet because
Speaker 1: I don't know when it's coming. But what I can
Speaker 1: announce and tell y'all that me and Conway did an
Speaker 1: album during a pandemic. Ooh yeah, is it coming out?
Speaker 1: Is coming out twenty twenty three, y'all get ready for that.
Speaker 1: Has Conway convinced you to visit him in Denver yet? No?
Speaker 1: I ain't go out there yet. He's pretty much living
Speaker 1: there now. I went and saw him last month. He
Speaker 1: fucking fell in love with Denver and it's just not lie.
Speaker 1: He's just not leaving. I gotta go. I've never even been.
Speaker 1: I'll go and check that shit out. You've never been
Speaker 1: to Denver, I've never been Dever. Just go out there.
Speaker 1: Conway's got like a he's got to sewed up out there.
Speaker 1: They treat him like he's you were to think he's
Speaker 1: from Denver. We was moving around out the strip. Club
Speaker 1: fucking weed grows all kinds of shit. So Conway and
Speaker 1: Special Album twenty twenty three Facts love to hear it Yeah,
Speaker 1: there it is, man. I appreciate you pulling up. Yo.
Speaker 1: You just also just did a crazy freestyle, which is
Speaker 1: a different YouTube video. Go watch that shit. That ship
Speaker 1: was insane. What is the website? People can go support
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Speaker 1: go get merged. Y'all could go and get Vinyl. Y'all
Speaker 1: could go and listen to my own radio station on
Speaker 1: the trust Station dot Com. Y'all could go and listen
Speaker 1: to my radio station. You're curating the playlist. I'm curating
Speaker 1: the playlist, man, But you know I got some shows
Speaker 1: in there too. You know what I'm saying. That is
Speaker 1: live as well, and shit, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: The app will be launching soon, y'all gonna be here more.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have an app coming, definitely. The app is
Speaker 1: coming soon, so people will be able to ride around
Speaker 1: and listen to your radio station and right from their phone.
Speaker 1: Yeah well right now, you can still do it. You
Speaker 1: could go to the trust that dot Com listen to
Speaker 1: it right from the site from your browser. But the
Speaker 1: app is on the way. They things coming, man. You
Speaker 1: can be dropping like exclusive music on the app first.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, it's smart, bro. There it is, Man thirty
Speaker 1: eight specch appreciate you pulling up, brother, Yes that you
Speaker 1: having me bro Fire boom