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Speaker 1: Yo, what up? This is the boy Dame representing play

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Speaker 1: too Much CMG. Hey man, check me out on Bootleg

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Speaker 1: cav podcast. Yep, Bootleg cab Podcast. Special guests in here, Cyrus.

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Speaker 1: Can we get this man a nice ashtray? Right? There's

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Speaker 1: one right there. Let's get him an ash tray? All right?

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Speaker 1: We got thirty eight special in here. Yes, thirty eight spech.

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Speaker 1: We have to provide you with an ash tray for

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Speaker 1: the fire weed that you have been given. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: Some great weed, man. Yeah, my guy's highest draft pussy

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Speaker 1: right now. Yes, Iam, welcome man, It's good to see you, bro.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I just want to salute you. Man.

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Speaker 1: I've been a fan for a long time. You've definitely

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Speaker 1: been grinding over a decade. I feel like, definitely, what

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Speaker 1: are we talking fifteen years now? About fifteen? Because what

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Speaker 1: year did you have to go sit down? Was that

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Speaker 1: like damn that was two thousand and nine and some shit? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah. Was it hard when you because like

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Speaker 1: I feel like you were buzzing and obviously to go

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Speaker 1: sit down that was horrible, man, Hell yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: fucking hard. Do you almost feel like there was like

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Speaker 1: was there was there a something positive you could took

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Speaker 1: out of there, like maybe you weren't ready for the

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Speaker 1: for the shine that was coming at the time. It was. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: looking back now, definitely I had a lot more living

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Speaker 1: to do, you know what I mean, a lot of

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Speaker 1: more things to experience. I had to get more of

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Speaker 1: an understanding of business. I realized I ain't want to

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Speaker 1: come in the game that way. Yeah, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. I didn't want to be that kind of artist.

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Speaker 1: You know. I wanted to come into the game a

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Speaker 1: certain kind of way, which was going to take a

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Speaker 1: certain kind of route, certain type of time. So look,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that at the beginning. You know. I

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Speaker 1: wanted to get right to where I was going right

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Speaker 1: then and there skip the steps. Yeah, but the steps

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Speaker 1: you gotta do ship to make sure that you, you know,

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Speaker 1: is solid when you get there. Yep. So did you

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Speaker 1: feel like, because I feel like sometimes artists make a

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Speaker 1: mistake when they're kind of like one foot in, one

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Speaker 1: foot out on the rap shit, where it's like, did

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Speaker 1: that force you to kind of really focus on music more,

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Speaker 1: take it a lot more serious when you got out

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Speaker 1: of course, Like I had to make a conscious decision

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Speaker 1: and ship, Like what did I want to do? And uh,

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Speaker 1: prior to me making that decision, I always gave most

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Speaker 1: of my energy to the streets as opposed to music.

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Speaker 1: You know, even like the titles of your early projects

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Speaker 1: were like right, it was all you know, out on,

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Speaker 1: out on bail and custody. Yeah, right ship like that

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Speaker 1: thirty eight Laws of Powder. But yeah, I'm high as fuck.

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Speaker 1: What was the question? I was just I was just saying, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, obviously a lot of artists coming into the

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Speaker 1: game and they have one foot in, one for out,

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Speaker 1: Like I feel like sometimes you have a humbling experience

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Speaker 1: like getting locked up, where you know it might maybe

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Speaker 1: kind of reprioritize how you see things. Yeah, of course,

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Speaker 1: man see it like a lot of a lot of

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Speaker 1: people I could cuss around, Yeah of course. So a

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Speaker 1: lot of motherfuckers is running around taking extreme resk and

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Speaker 1: shit like that because they never suffered any consequences. You know,

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Speaker 1: the younger you are, the more wilder you are moven

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Speaker 1: reckless because you know, you really ain't experienced any consequences.

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Speaker 1: And shit me, I'm a person that experienced consequences at

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Speaker 1: the consequence, which makes me appreciate not halving that face consequences,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So until you experience those consequences,

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Speaker 1: you're not going to have that same appreciation level. So

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Speaker 1: you know, I definitely have a high appreciation level from

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Speaker 1: suffering from those consequences, you know what I'm saying. And

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Speaker 1: I had to make a conscious decision, like I was saying,

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Speaker 1: to either take music one hundred and ten percent and

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Speaker 1: give it all and lead out of it shit alone,

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Speaker 1: which was a very hard decision because I wasn't in

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Speaker 1: the best position financially, right, and that easy money is

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Speaker 1: the easy money, right, Yeah, And what you know is

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Speaker 1: what you know. Yeah, And that's what the sacrifice come in,

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Speaker 1: you know. And I made those sacrifices, and it was

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Speaker 1: the best thing that I best decision I made for

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Speaker 1: my life, you know what I'm saying. I made it

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Speaker 1: just by having faith, not really having a complete understanding

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Speaker 1: on how I was gonna capitalize a liquid eate. But

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Speaker 1: I knew the upside potential as opposed to the upside

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Speaker 1: of potential of the streets. Right, the potential is like

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Speaker 1: short term game, but the longside, the long term shit

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Speaker 1: is jail, death, incarceration. We know the results from that

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Speaker 1: right now, it's not you know, and you know, the

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Speaker 1: short term payoff is great. Yeah, of course, of course,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But you know that other life,

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Speaker 1: meaning like the music and the music money, just seemed

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Speaker 1: a little more intriguing. And it's and it's not. There's

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Speaker 1: no there's really no one way to do it. And

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Speaker 1: I feel like you've done a great job of carving

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Speaker 1: your own way of making like I feel like most

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Speaker 1: artists look at the music industry as Okay, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: get in advance, I'm gonna put out music and i'm

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Speaker 1: as opposed to really turning over every rock if you

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Speaker 1: have a core fan base, that's there's ways to monetize that.

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Speaker 1: It really is. And shit, that's what see, if I

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Speaker 1: was still in the streets, I wanted to magnify those

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Speaker 1: opportunities by me not being in the streets. I've really

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Speaker 1: seen that and noticed it. So it left up when

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Speaker 1: I was in the streets and relying on other areas.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's easy to leave rocks unturned, you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it's like Okay, let me go

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Speaker 1: in and figure out how to make some money in

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Speaker 1: this area, in this area, in this area, because it's

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Speaker 1: all I have. Yep, I have no other way. And

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Speaker 1: sometimes you got to put yourself in those positions to

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Speaker 1: where all you got. If you a hustler, then you

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Speaker 1: got to put yourself in a position to where you

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Speaker 1: know you have to hustle. You got to look at

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Speaker 1: your product. I mean as much as like it's art,

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Speaker 1: but it's also like a business. You're in the music business,

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Speaker 1: and I feel like, especially as an independent artist, it

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Speaker 1: signed on a major label, there's so much red tape

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Speaker 1: anything you want to do. That's where you could do

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Speaker 1: whatever the fuck you want. You could drop a project

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Speaker 1: for three months before it's DSPs and only your fans

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Speaker 1: get it. You could drop a fucking limited edition vinyl run.

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Speaker 1: You could do it. So many things you could do that.

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Speaker 1: I figured that out later on, but at the beginning

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Speaker 1: of the journey that don't. That's not too like you know,

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Speaker 1: visible force, of course, you know what I'm saying. So

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Speaker 1: your first your goals change as you get more knowledge

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Speaker 1: and stuff. At first, I just wanted to deal. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was definitely the goal. Like, and I didn't understand that,

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Speaker 1: you know, you didn't need a lot of fans in

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Speaker 1: just need you just need, you need more fans and followers.

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Speaker 1: I would take five hundred fans over a million followers.

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Speaker 1: I would definitely take that because five hundred fans, when

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Speaker 1: I say fans of people who will spend money with

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Speaker 1: you, you you can be able to pay your bills. You'll

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Speaker 1: those five hundred people if you do it the right way.

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Speaker 1: Of course. Yeah, yeah, of course you've built waight. I

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Speaker 1: mean you're you're you're up there, man, you're killing it.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's wild. I do feel like like when

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Speaker 1: I when you talk to people who've been locked up,

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Speaker 1: get humbled. Andy, it kind of corrects the path when

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Speaker 1: you were when you were in incarcerated, were you working

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Speaker 1: I only could move off energy and real life events, right,

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Speaker 1: I can't really like you were like unmotivated. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: natural talent and when I came home that I was

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Speaker 1: a natural thing. But I ain't work on nothing in jail. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Was there like a was there like a scene in

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Speaker 1: they obviously you had a name when you were in there.

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Speaker 1: Did people know who you were? Yeah? Or they found out? Well,

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Speaker 1: they were a couple of motherfuckers, was knowing who I was?

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Speaker 1: And shit, because I was still on the come up there, right,

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Speaker 1: you were still on to come up? Yeah. So but

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Speaker 1: like shout out to my homeboy, iron Chic he was

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Speaker 1: the Iron Chek and ship Man. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Facts you uh, for people who don't know, I feel

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Speaker 1: like a lot of people if it wasn't Griselda, they

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Speaker 1: you guys doing the Early Collapse table was that twenty fifteen? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like the Trust tapes and stuff like that, that that all

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Speaker 1: that early ship Explain your relationship obviously, both you guys

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Speaker 1: our Explain how did you and Benny end up initially

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Speaker 1: linking up? I used to go to DJ Sha Studio,

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Speaker 1: go there to record that was like that was Benning

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Speaker 1: So you know, early in my career, like two thousand

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Speaker 1: working on my early mixtapes, right, and then me and

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Speaker 1: Benny would just collapse because that was his home studio,

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Speaker 1: so eventually it became my home studio as well. And

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Speaker 1: that's how me and Benny gaked that relationship because I'll

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Speaker 1: come through there and we just be working and shit,

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Speaker 1: That's how I met Ben, That's how I met Conway,

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Speaker 1: and you know, the whole, the whole Griselda ship. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think you guys are synonymous with each other, both

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Speaker 1: of y'all's movements, you know, in terms of like what

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Speaker 1: business side, like and then obviously musically. I think you

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Speaker 1: guys are very tidy in man, has it has it been?

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Speaker 1: It's been pretty dope for you just knowing Bennie since

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Speaker 1: back then to kind of see everything that Benny been

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Speaker 1: one of my main motivations on my journey and ship

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Speaker 1: because it was times that you know, on my journey,

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Speaker 1: I faced so many things that would discourage me from

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Speaker 1: not you know, knowing how to capitalize off it, that

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Speaker 1: I would take breaks and watching Bennie he just would

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Speaker 1: keep going, would keep going, and that was the motivation

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Speaker 1: I needed, right, So when I seen like the response

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Speaker 1: I know it's possible. You know, there's somebody I work

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Speaker 1: back to the interview. Rochester obviously upstate New York in general,

428
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Speaker 1: up until the last maybe seven eight years, I feel like,

429
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Speaker 1: you know, very slept on. I mean, you were probably

430
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Speaker 1: were you locked up when Amelio started to pop a bit,

431
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Speaker 1: when Breaking Point came out. I just came home and shit,

432
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Speaker 1: I just came home around that time and shit. But yeah,

433
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Speaker 1: because when I think of Rochester, I think of you,

434
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Speaker 1: I think of him, I think of Green Lantern. Yeah,

435
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Speaker 1: that's how it started. Yeah, with the whole hip hop scene.

436
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I remember having the Team

437
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Speaker 1: Invasion mixtapes back in the day exactly. Shout out the

438
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Speaker 1: Team Invasion selling them out to swat Meet, Shout out

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Speaker 1: to Greenlander, like Greenlander was like the og of the

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Speaker 1: town that really like open doors like that let us know,

441
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Speaker 1: like okay, oh yeah, Eminem's DJ, jay Z's DJ Naz's DJ,

442
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Speaker 1: right and one of the coldest producers, right, And people

443
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Speaker 1: don't understand Like, man, I used to sit under Green

444
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 1: and study a lot, Like that's how I know how

445
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,239
Speaker 1: to put a project together, you know, I know I

446
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 1: understand it, like how I would want to start and

447
00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 1: how I would want to make it end, and like

448
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Speaker 1: you know that come from like you know, really sitting

449
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Speaker 1: there up under Green. Green Lantern has got my favorite

450
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Speaker 1: mixtapes ever, probably and uh he's probably he's probably my

451
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Speaker 1: favorite mixtape DJ of all time, to be honest, man,

452
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Speaker 1: So shout out to Green that's my dog. He's out

453
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Speaker 1: of my hometown now, nay Z doing his thing man

454
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Speaker 1: Green Lantern. Man, So I was gonna say, was it

455
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Speaker 1: did it work against you? Not being from New York

456
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Speaker 1: City and being from that the city in that area.

457
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Speaker 1: At first, it definitely it just started working funny. Yeah,

458
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Speaker 1: that ain't become cool until you know, recently these last

459
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Speaker 1: couple of years. Before then, they they wasn't jack and

460
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Speaker 1: that it was so hard, like you know what I mean,

461
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Speaker 1: Like New York is real like territorial prideful, yeah, you know,

462
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Speaker 1: and that what they rep like, you know they so

463
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Speaker 1: it's like they ain't even really like supporting other boroughs.

464
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Speaker 1: You know, it's like the Bronx right loan another spy

465
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Speaker 1: six hours away, you know what I'm saying. Serious drive

466
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 1: they never even heard of before. So it was real

467
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 1: hard for them to like understand where we was coming from.

468
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. They didn't understand it because

469
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Speaker 1: you know, they didn't understand that you know, these were

470
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Speaker 1: stories up here and people really getting busy up here.

471
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Speaker 1: They never been up there, never went to the prison system,

472
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So you think it's it's

473
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Speaker 1: that's gone away recently. Hell yeah, that was the understanding. Yeah,

474
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Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, if they understand now, like

475
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Speaker 1: like you know, there's another part of New York because

476
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Speaker 1: I feel like there's always guys like you know, obviously

477
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Speaker 1: Static Select is not from New York, is from Boston,

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Speaker 1: but I feel like he always would show love on

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Speaker 1: SHA forty five just to the guys like you know,

480
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Speaker 1: the Gris all the guys. That's when I first heard

481
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Speaker 1: of them was a Static freestyle and case Leigh you

482
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Speaker 1: know definitely. But I feel like now you know, you'll

483
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Speaker 1: see Folk Flex show support, you know, and obviously shot

484
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Speaker 1: out to Conway for motivating Flex to challenge every New

485
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Speaker 1: York rapper to make new music. I'm glad something dope

486
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: came out of that situation because it looked interesting in

487
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Speaker 1: for a shouts about got conract. But for you man,

488
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Speaker 1: like in twenty twenty two, when you put out a project,

489
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Speaker 1: what is the like checklist? It's like, Okay, the album's

490
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Speaker 1: gonna come out. We got to have the merch together,

491
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Speaker 1: We got to have the vinyl together, Like what is

492
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Speaker 1: everything that you You got to make sure it's put

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Speaker 1: together before you put a project out, because like we said,

494
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Speaker 1: you're a hustler. You know how to really ulterally monetize

495
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496
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Speaker 1: what are the things that you make sure are all

497
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Speaker 1: aligned before you put something out. I make sure that

498
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Speaker 1: the project is you know, I make sure I got

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Speaker 1: I make sure it's done, and I got all the

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Speaker 1: assets first, you know, assets meaning like my good artwork,

501
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 1: social media stuff, social media stuff, videos, things that I

502
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Speaker 1: could do that I could use to help with my rollout.

503
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Speaker 1: You know, I make sure I got all of that

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505
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Speaker 1: work it, because you don't want to hire the publics

506
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Speaker 1: the first thing I do is make sure I got

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Speaker 1: all the assets connected to the project. After I got that,

509
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Speaker 1: then I make sure I got all the merchant stuff

510
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Speaker 1: you know, in production. And then that's about it. Man.

511
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Speaker 1: Once I got all of those things linked up, you know,

512
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Speaker 1: I make sure that I'm with a good distributor to

513
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Speaker 1: make sure I could get some proper visibility on right,

514
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Speaker 1: maybe some playlists pitching, you know what I'm saying, which

515
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 1: is very important. And that's about it. Once I got

516
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Speaker 1: those things, and you know, I don't you know, I

517
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Speaker 1: make sure I turn the music in at least thirty

518
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Speaker 1: days or more prior to me releasing and give the

519
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Speaker 1: digital peoples enough time to do what they need to

520
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Speaker 1: do with it, like you can't just like us sometimes

521
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Speaker 1: as all this, we'll lock ourselves into a date, be

522
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Speaker 1: like I'm wanna drop next week. Just get them the

523
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Speaker 1: music and stuff, you know, you want to actually really

524
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Speaker 1: turn stuff in, you know, and then come up with

525
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Speaker 1: the date. Yeah, because if you've come up with the

526
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527
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Speaker 1: like you said, you handcuf yourself to a day and

528
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Speaker 1: right for artists who don't know, like you, definitely want

529
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531
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Speaker 1: How does somebody get vinyl made? Is that? Is that

533
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Speaker 1: hell right now? Because I heard it's really tough. It's

534
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538
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539
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00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,960
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542
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,880
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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty two. Oh shit, man, man, what did I

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Speaker 1: listen to this? Shit? Man? Damn man, I don't want

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583
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,040
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584
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Speaker 1: to it. What about Kendricks? You listen to Kendrick's album? Definitely?

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Speaker 1: I heard not I heard. I heard like what was

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Speaker 1: on a radio like with him and the chit going

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Speaker 1: in the check. I didn't go listen to it, though.

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of with when it comes to music, right,

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Speaker 1: I'm a little weird and shit when it comes to me,

592
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Speaker 1: I don't listen it. Like that's fair? Like that? What

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Speaker 1: about who would you consider your top like four or five?

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Speaker 1: Like your personal It don't got to be the greatest

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Speaker 1: Just MC's all time Cougie rap I put at the

597
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Speaker 1: top of the list. Yeah, obviously escites ain't in no order,

598
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: but you rap start first, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

599
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: you've obviously got music dedicated to him. Shot the coolgie

600
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: rap shit whole, not just from lyrical content, from from

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Speaker 1: from the field, everything everything, fuck it. Yeah. Oh nahs

602
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: for creativity, fucking rewind Man like creativity, like I got

603
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: different rappers, that's for different things. Tupac for emotion pain Yep,

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Speaker 1: that was the first person that made me feel something

605
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Speaker 1: like how I feel sad or I feel happy? I

606
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Speaker 1: feel Tupac from pain on one more one more? Huh

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Speaker 1: damn big, big and without a doubt, big for just

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Speaker 1: like flow the best flow ever flow butter flow right,

609
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: big for flow period. That's fair. Yeah, that's a grade five.

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Speaker 1: You should cause you rap too, man, They'll get enough

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Speaker 1: flowers out here. Honorable mention, Big pun pun Man, Honorable

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Speaker 1: mention Punk Apple Punishment. Oh god, that's one of the biggest,

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Speaker 1: the biggest webs. Like, man, what a pun would have

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Speaker 1: never passed? Man? Ship? Where would he be at right now?

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Speaker 1: I mean Ship, Biggie and Tupac. We could say that

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Speaker 1: about three of them, right Ship A whole different landscape

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Speaker 1: of this whole game, bro, that's fun. It be insane. Man,

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Speaker 1: what you got coming? Do you have anything else coming?

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Speaker 1: The rest of the Year or anything out in the books,

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Speaker 1: I'm working seven shots. But I got some ship. I

622
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Speaker 1: don't know if I want to announce it yet because

623
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Speaker 1: I don't know when it's coming. But what I can

624
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Speaker 1: announce and tell y'all that me and Conway did an

625
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Speaker 1: album during a pandemic. Ooh yeah, is it coming out?

626
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: Is coming out twenty twenty three, y'all get ready for that.

627
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Speaker 1: Has Conway convinced you to visit him in Denver yet? No?

628
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Speaker 1: I ain't go out there yet. He's pretty much living

629
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Speaker 1: there now. I went and saw him last month. He

630
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Speaker 1: He's just not leaving. I gotta go. I've never even been.

632
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Speaker 1: I'll go and check that shit out. You've never been

633
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: to Denver, I've never been Dever. Just go out there.

634
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Speaker 1: Conway's got like a he's got to sewed up out there.

635
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: They treat him like he's you were to think he's

636
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Speaker 1: from Denver. We was moving around out the strip. Club

637
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Speaker 1: fucking weed grows all kinds of shit. So Conway and

638
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Speaker 1: Special Album twenty twenty three Facts love to hear it Yeah,

639
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Speaker 1: there it is, man. I appreciate you pulling up. Yo.

640
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: You just also just did a crazy freestyle, which is

641
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: a different YouTube video. Go watch that shit. That ship

642
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: was insane. What is the website? People can go support

643
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Speaker 1: the trust Station the trust Station dot Com. Y'all could

644
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: go get merged. Y'all could go and get Vinyl. Y'all

645
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Speaker 1: could go and listen to my own radio station on

646
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Speaker 1: the trust Station dot Com. Y'all could go and listen

647
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: to my radio station. You're curating the playlist. I'm curating

648
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: the playlist, man, But you know I got some shows

649
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: in there too. You know what I'm saying. That is

650
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: live as well, and shit, you know what I mean.

651
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Speaker 1: The app will be launching soon, y'all gonna be here more.

652
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Speaker 1: You're gonna have an app coming, definitely. The app is

653
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: coming soon, so people will be able to ride around

654
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Speaker 1: and listen to your radio station and right from their phone.

655
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: Yeah well right now, you can still do it. You

656
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Speaker 1: could go to the trust that dot Com listen to

657
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Speaker 1: it right from the site from your browser. But the

658
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Speaker 1: app is on the way. They things coming, man. You

659
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: can be dropping like exclusive music on the app first.

660
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Speaker 1: Hell yeah, it's smart, bro. There it is, Man thirty

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Speaker 1: eight specch appreciate you pulling up, brother, Yes that you

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Speaker 1: having me bro Fire boom